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Dirty Rush: What I Wish I Knew Before I Went Through Rush · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
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Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice.
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Speaker 2: Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.
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Speaker 3: Hi everyone, welcome back to Dirty Rush. This is the
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Speaker 3: Producer's edition.
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Speaker 2: We've got heavy on the mic, Emma and Shelby.
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Speaker 3: And today we're going to be talking about what we
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Speaker 3: wish we knew before we went into rush. So we're
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Speaker 3: going to be giving you all the stories all of
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Speaker 3: us went. All of us were in different sororities, at
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Speaker 3: different schools and had different Rush experiences. But we all
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Speaker 3: have a lot of advice to give you for when
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Speaker 3: you're going through rush.
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Speaker 1: Especially because some people are going through rush this semester. True,
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Speaker 1: which's be where.
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Speaker 2: I could do that?
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Speaker 4: I do feels in the snow?
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Speaker 2: No, thank you?
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Speaker 4: I can remember, would you?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 4: I would I.
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Speaker 3: Went to UCLA and the you know, the latest round.
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Speaker 3: It was probably fifty degrees out and I remember being
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Speaker 3: cold waiting outside. Yeah, but it was also in September
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Speaker 3: because we do first semester.
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Speaker 5: Do you guys all do first semester rush?
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Speaker 4: Mine's like before school starts? What is your guys?
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Speaker 3: Is?
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Speaker 1: Mine is after it's over the three day weekend.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, mine was always in August. It's insanely hot in Texas.
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Speaker 6: It's so hot.
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Speaker 5: Did you have to go to school early for how
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Speaker 5: they do thatt ut?
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Speaker 4: Yes, which I actually really liked.
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Speaker 6: But I think it's really everyone has a different experience
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Speaker 6: doing it, like different ways, and people like it for
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Speaker 6: different reasons, you know, Like I loved it because like
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Speaker 6: you don't know anyone, so there's no one, like like
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Speaker 6: you're not rushing what your friends are rushing, Like You're
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Speaker 6: going whatever you really feel like as you're fit, which
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Speaker 6: I feel like is nice because like I feel like
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Speaker 6: if I was second semester, then I would just want
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Speaker 6: to go the souarty my friends were and it wouldn't
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Speaker 6: be as much my choice.
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Speaker 3: I'm torn on this because I feel like it benefits
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Speaker 3: you know, I went to a huge state school, Like
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Speaker 3: I I went to UCLA, and I was from Chicago,
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Speaker 3: and I knew nobody at my school, and so I
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Speaker 3: feel like I didn't have a leg up, you know,
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Speaker 3: to know and coming in, and.
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Speaker 4: I felt like.
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Speaker 3: It gave me a really fair shot that it just
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Speaker 3: it started right when school started, and like I nobody
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Speaker 3: knew anyone and nobody like really had a leg up
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Speaker 3: just going into rush. But I also think USC, the
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Speaker 3: other school, like big school in LA, they did it
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Speaker 3: second semester and they were like, I feel like the
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Speaker 3: girls and sororities at USC were like had so many
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Speaker 3: different friends across sororities because they did it second semester,
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Speaker 3: and so they were able to have like your you know,
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Speaker 3: your first semester friends, but then I'll end up in
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Speaker 3: different sororities.
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Speaker 1: Totally, that's cool since first semester all my friends are
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Speaker 1: dg except for like your dorm friends totally are across
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Speaker 1: different sororities. Yeah, but yeah, I mean it kind of
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Speaker 1: gave you friends immediately rushing first semester.
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Speaker 2: True, so pros and cons like both.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, It's also interesting how at different schools. I feel
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Speaker 6: like some schools it's like all sorority girls are friends
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Speaker 6: with girls and different sororities, and that some schools it's
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Speaker 6: like you only hang out with the girls and your sorty,
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Speaker 6: which I've heard is a case that like you dub
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Speaker 6: like they like don't really but then you know, everyone
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Speaker 6: tells different things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I remember hearing that once and I was like, that's
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Speaker 6: so interesting because in my school everyone was like meshed
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Speaker 6: with girls in different sororities. Yeah, yeah, so I wonder
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Speaker 6: if that has something to do with the first versus
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Speaker 6: second semester recruitment.
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Speaker 5: Probably m hm.
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Speaker 1: Anyways, we're here to share a couple of things that
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Speaker 1: we all wished we knew before going into rush and
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Speaker 1: something that I didn't know but to get into the
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Speaker 1: sorority I was at at CU Boulder was that you
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Speaker 1: did have to have a letter of reck.
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Speaker 3: You did, yes, because that you see, like they it
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Speaker 3: was just like those did.
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Speaker 5: Not matter at all.
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Speaker 1: You It didn't matter who wrote it. But if you
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Speaker 1: didn't have one, you weren't. Yeah, like you were passed
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Speaker 1: up on.
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Speaker 5: Really.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it.
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Speaker 3: Could be like your your mom's best friend's cousin's daughter.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyone that was in the sorority beforehand, at any point,
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Speaker 1: if you knew them well or not, if they wrote
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Speaker 1: you a letter of reck, then you made it past
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Speaker 1: the first round. If you didn't, then you didn't.
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Speaker 6: I don't know if that's how it was at my school.
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Speaker 6: I do remember, like, like, I feel like I could
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Speaker 6: be wrong about this, but I feel like it was
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Speaker 6: more like if someone was in the sorority at your school,
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Speaker 6: it mattered more than like if it was just like
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Speaker 6: a random person from a different school that was in
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Speaker 6: your sowarty.
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Speaker 4: To me, that's how I perceived it.
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Speaker 6: But I could be wrong there, but I feel like
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Speaker 6: it would mostly matter if it was like an older
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Speaker 6: girl who had graduated before, then it means more.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it definitely helps if you knew someone in
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Speaker 1: the direct sorority or someone that was of that affiliate sorority.
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Speaker 2: But I think just like maybe my sorority had older rules.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so we had letters of wreck didn't mean anything,
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Speaker 3: but we had a different thing that I'm really wondering
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Speaker 3: if I feel like nobody knows about this when you're
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Speaker 3: going through rush, but then you see it on the
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Speaker 3: other side and it's kind of wild. I don't know
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Speaker 3: if you guys have this, but and I'm kind of
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Speaker 3: giving a lot away here, but during work week, we
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Speaker 3: would have a presentation of I don't even know if
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Speaker 3: I'm supposed to say this, but here goes. During work week,
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Speaker 3: we would have a presentation that girls already in our
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Speaker 3: sorority would be put up a slide show of people
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Speaker 3: from their hometown that knew that they were coming through
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Speaker 3: rush and that they really wanted to vouch for and
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Speaker 3: it would be like a picture of them from their
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Speaker 3: Instagram and fun facts and this is why she would
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Speaker 3: be great in our sorority, and these are her amazing traits,
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Speaker 3: and or on the other end, it would be like
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Speaker 3: this girl screwed up dating my brother and cheating on
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Speaker 3: him and we cannot let her in. I know she's
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Speaker 3: coming in. So I think that's where knowing someone really
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Speaker 3: plays a part, because they can really vouch for you.
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Speaker 3: And then you can do something called hometown voting, where
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Speaker 3: you can give them either the highest rating or the
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Speaker 3: lowest rating, but you couldn't give anything in between if
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Speaker 3: you were in a hometown vote someone.
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Speaker 6: Do you guys think it's important to know someone in
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Speaker 6: the sorority, Like, do you think you really need to
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Speaker 6: in order to get brought back?
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Speaker 1: Well, my sorority's rules for voting was it's automatically no,
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Speaker 1: So essentially you were supposed to be dishing out no's
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Speaker 1: unless the person wowed you and you thought they deserved to.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 5: Oh, it was all or nothing, all.
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Speaker 1: Or nothing, and that's why it was helpful to know
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Speaker 1: someone in a sorority so that they could tell everyone.
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Speaker 1: But then again it brings back the rule of you
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Speaker 1: can't vote for someone unless you bump them, So then
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Speaker 1: you had to keep making sure that people were getting
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Speaker 1: bumped so they could get the appropriate votes.
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Speaker 3: Wow, because ours was what were your So that was
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Speaker 3: your reading scale? Ours was between I think one in
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Speaker 3: five or and the highest one you either four or
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Speaker 3: five meant okay this or I want her to be
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Speaker 3: my little like not just I want her to be
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Speaker 3: in our sorority. I want her to be my little
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Speaker 3: my best friend. Three was like I want her to
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Speaker 3: be in the sorority, and then one was no two
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Speaker 3: was it was very important, like what each level meant?
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Speaker 4: Did you guys do a lot of recruiting?
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Speaker 6: On the other side, like, did you do a lot
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Speaker 6: of years of like recruiting in your sorority? Because you
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Speaker 6: know how some people like don't really want to do
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Speaker 6: it and only do it one year when they're forced too.
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Speaker 3: Well one of them, I was abroads, but I did too.
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Speaker 4: Two of them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean in terms of like the actual recruiting process.
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Speaker 1: We were involved all four years. Wow, Like fully involved
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Speaker 1: had to be which was nice. But then again, like honestly,
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Speaker 1: whoever was on standards that year took full control over
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Speaker 1: who was on the hometown's list, who was on the
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Speaker 1: captain's list.
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Speaker 4: What is captain's captain's list?
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Speaker 2: Did you guys not have that?
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Speaker 4: No, I've never even heard of that.
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Speaker 2: Your your captain's list is pretty crazy.
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Speaker 1: So so that means that you were perfect on paper,
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Speaker 1: meaning that you had the grades, you had the letters
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Speaker 1: of rex.
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Speaker 3: Wait, sorry, this means you're talking captain's list. Are P
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Speaker 3: and ms or.
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Speaker 1: P and ms on the captain's list that are perfect
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Speaker 1: on paper with grades? Because we had to have a
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Speaker 1: certain GPA, and it was a high gpa really that
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Speaker 1: a lot of the younger girls I knew couldn't get
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Speaker 1: in from high school because of their gpa?
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Speaker 5: Wow, can you name what the GPA was?
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Speaker 4: Did it change every year?
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Speaker 5: Probably?
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Speaker 2: I think it was a three four.
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Speaker 6: I feel like it would change based on like like
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Speaker 6: at my school, because the GPA would go of how
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Speaker 6: hard it was to get in, so I feel like
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Speaker 6: it would go up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it went up continuously, and I do know that.
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Speaker 1: Like one of the coolest girls in our sorority when
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Speaker 1: I was a freshman, she got suspended for a semester
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Speaker 1: because her grades dropped below and she was the coolest
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Speaker 1: eight girl of my sorority, like everyone's favorite, and she
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Speaker 1: got suspended because of her grades.
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Speaker 3: So this is where I think there's a misconception about
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Speaker 3: sororities because our sorty too, like had the best GPA
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Speaker 3: on the row and I would I would argue that
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Speaker 3: we were some of the best girls and just really cool,
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Speaker 3: awesome people and we always had the highest GP in
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Speaker 3: the row and it was usually a three seven, five
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Speaker 3: or three eight.
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Speaker 5: And I feel like people think that soorty girls are dumb.
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Speaker 2: No, not true, Not true.
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Speaker 1: You're actually talking to a girl who was on the
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Speaker 1: scholars list.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, talking to a scholar.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking to a scholar not only for the.
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Speaker 1: Semester maybe, yeah, pretty insane.
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Speaker 3: I think I was on the low end of the GPA.
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Speaker 2: I think I was the one on the brisk Well
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Speaker 2: you went to what you see?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so missy over here. Okay, I have another subject
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Speaker 6: to bring up. What about This isn't necessarily something I
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Speaker 6: didn't know, but what do you guys, like, what went
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Speaker 6: on in your head about like your social media? Because
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Speaker 6: I feel like we're told so many things going into recruitment,
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Speaker 6: like not being able to follow girls in the sworty
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Speaker 6: or you should be following girls in the sworty or
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Speaker 6: what you have posted, like taking down anything of swimsuits alcohol, Like,
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Speaker 6: did you guys really clean up your social media before
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Speaker 6: you went through recruitment.
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Speaker 2: That's a good question.
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Speaker 1: I didn't feel the need to clean mine up. I
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Speaker 1: didn't post anything with alcohol in beforehand, because that's kind
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Speaker 1: of inappropriate in my eyes. Anyways, being a high schooler, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: in terms of like bathing suit stuff, I would post them,
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Speaker 1: but it wasn't anything too crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, following like people preference.
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Speaker 1: If I was the older girl being followed by younger girls,
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Speaker 1: I would just see that as like they're just trying
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Speaker 1: to get a gauge on what's going on, and I
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Speaker 1: would just play it cooler. On the other end of
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Speaker 1: just like not following people. You can follow the sorority instagrams,
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Speaker 1: but like you don't need to heavily stock everyone like
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Speaker 1: I don't.
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Speaker 2: There's no for my sorority.
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Speaker 1: There was no offline chat of like we were not
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Speaker 1: allowed to talk to p and ms and we weren't
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Speaker 1: allowed to talk to active members before or during the
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Speaker 1: recruitment process. And so I don't think that there was
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Speaker 1: a point on our end to kind of like involve
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Speaker 1: social media with that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say that I do think because I mean,
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Speaker 3: especially just going to a really big school, we were
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Speaker 3: talking to so many girls, and I do think that
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Speaker 3: social media matters. I think what your Instagram and that
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Speaker 3: it's like a representation of you, like if you like
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Speaker 3: to sing and you have a video on there, I
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Speaker 3: think that's great.
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Speaker 4: I completely agree.
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Speaker 3: But if it's just like partying, and I think your
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Speaker 3: Instagram and your profile actually does matter because that's what
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Speaker 3: not necessarily like that girls are scoping you out beforehand.
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Speaker 3: I think that at least that wasn't the case with us.
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Speaker 3: But I think that when you're trying to remember, girl,
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Speaker 3: oh did I like her?
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Speaker 5: Did I not?
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Speaker 3: What was our conversation about? And then you go in
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Speaker 3: their Instagram, there's nothing. I mean, I guess you're in private.
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Speaker 6: Some people are because some people are told that they
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Speaker 6: should go on private beforehand, because then if a girl
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Speaker 6: follows you, that means something. If not, they can stock
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Speaker 6: you anytime. I don't remember what I did. But then
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Speaker 6: there's also so many girls I remember that I loved
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Speaker 6: and they followed me even though they're not allowed to
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Speaker 6: and then I was like, oh my goodness, they're going
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Speaker 6: to go my sworty. And then they didn't, and so
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Speaker 6: I'm like, why do you follow me? We have like
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Speaker 6: a silent day, it's like the day before. So our
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Speaker 6: last day of recruitment, I want to say, is Friday.
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Speaker 6: Then Saturday is like no contact, like nothing, like really strict,
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Speaker 6: like basically like stay in your house like okay, and
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Speaker 6: I know, partying, no texting anyone, even if it's like
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Speaker 6: your friend, it's really strict. And then Sunday's mid day.
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Speaker 6: So I remember on that no contact day, like the
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Speaker 6: one day it's really strict on texting or following or anything.
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Speaker 6: I had girls following me and they didn't even go
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Speaker 6: my sworty. So I'm like, that's so confusing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm going to say that that whole like
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Speaker 3: no contact, no following thing. Take that seriously. Because I
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Speaker 3: had a great sorority and then I did I contacted
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Speaker 3: someone because I was so torn between what I was
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Speaker 3: going to pres and I didn't end up getting that sorority.
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Speaker 4: I'm happy.
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Speaker 3: I'm so happy I ended up in the authorty that I did.
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Speaker 3: But I think that and then no party, especially if
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Speaker 3: it's the first week of week of school, guys like relax,
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Speaker 3: And I mean I did, Like, I partied the first.
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Speaker 2: Week before you before recruitment, and.
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Speaker 3: I went to like because the only people I knew
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Speaker 3: at my school were on the soccer team and they
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Speaker 3: invited me to the soccer party.
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Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, I'm going to that.
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Speaker 2: And I should not.
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Speaker 5: Have gone to that.
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Speaker 6: I was the biggest follower. It wasn't crazy. I thought
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Speaker 6: I was going to get dropped for like the smallest things.
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Speaker 2: And then it posted a TikTok.
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Speaker 3: My roommate posted a TikTok about us going out and
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Speaker 3: it went viral.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it got like three million views.
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Speaker 6: I could have never I would have never let her
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Speaker 6: post it. I would have never gone.
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Speaker 2: Everyone would pop in like you're gonna have to post
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Speaker 2: the TikTok.
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Speaker 5: Oh my god, Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Should we add it onto the dirty Rush feed?
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Speaker 2: Wait, it's actually so good.
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Speaker 3: It's a video of me and my tiny dorm room
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Speaker 3: doing my blowout, and we all know I love my blowouts.
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Speaker 7: I also, oh yeah, and she took a video of
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Speaker 7: me doing my hair into the home Depot song.
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Speaker 5: You know the song.
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Speaker 2: It's like yeah, boom.
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Speaker 5: Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.
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Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
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Speaker 3: And it's me doing my hair and it went crazy
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Speaker 3: viral and then everyone during.
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Speaker 5: Rush was like, wait, are you the TikTok care girl?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my god.
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Speaker 4: See.
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Speaker 6: And this is a reason though, that I love that
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Speaker 6: my school does it before school starts. It'd be hard
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Speaker 6: when school starts, you're so excited about everything.
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Speaker 3: Well, she literally put on the video my roommate getting
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Speaker 3: ready for a night out in Westwood the night before Rush.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, to your point, it was stupid.
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Speaker 1: The girls that are rushing you, the older girls have
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Speaker 1: been through Rush themselves, and so they're going to treat
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Speaker 1: you the way that they were rushed, if not worse.
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Speaker 1: Girls in authoritative positions are going to keep those positions.
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Speaker 2: And if they see you out, like.
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Speaker 3: I was strict, there's.
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Speaker 1: Like if you see a younger girl partying, it's like,
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Speaker 1: get your bleep together, Like you're not supposed to party.
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Speaker 1: We're not partying because we're training how to rush you,
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Speaker 1: and so you better not be party.
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Speaker 4: I agree, I'm so.
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Speaker 3: Trure, Like no one wants to be like dry that way,
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Speaker 3: but everyone is and then yeah they see younger people
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Speaker 3: get yeah, you're like, what are you doing?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Another thing that I realized after rushing was that you're
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Speaker 1: not necessarily dropped from a sorority based on that they
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Speaker 1: didn't like you. A lot of it has to do
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Speaker 1: with they know that you're going to go another house
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Speaker 1: and they're giving the spot to someone else. You could
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Speaker 1: think that like, you had an amazing conversation with someone,
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Speaker 1: but they just know that you're not going to choose
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Speaker 1: this sorority in the end, and so they're going to
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Speaker 1: go with another girl that they would rather have.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well, here's what I'm going to say is I
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Speaker 3: think this is super specific to the school because we
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Speaker 3: weren't able to like handpick who. It's all about scores
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Speaker 3: that everyone gave, so we weren't like, oh, they're probably
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Speaker 3: going to go them. I'm going to give them a
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Speaker 3: lower score. You just gave them a score based off
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Speaker 3: of their you know, your experience with them, and then
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Speaker 3: it was all about the cumulative score that they had
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Speaker 3: and if they chose you again.
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Speaker 6: It's such an interesting point though, because what you brought up, Emma,
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Speaker 6: because like then, what we were talking about earlier with
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Speaker 6: if knowing someone helps, then it also can not help
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Speaker 6: you because if you're best friends with a girl in
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Speaker 6: one swarty and you're trying to get into another but
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Speaker 6: they know that's your best friend's sister, cousin, whatever, then
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Speaker 6: maybe they don't take you because they're like, we don't
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Speaker 6: have a shot with her. Even though a lot of
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Speaker 6: girls are always open yeah to some girls want to
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Speaker 6: do something different than their best friend's sister would. So
17:00
Speaker 6: like it's really an interesting conversation of does it help
17:03
Speaker 6: you or hurt you? And I feel like it differs.
17:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, Emma, for your school for a Boulder, was it
17:23
Speaker 3: about cumulative score or someone But you're kind of talking
17:27
Speaker 3: about like you could pick and choose kind of who
17:29
Speaker 3: was coming in when it came to that final round,
17:32
Speaker 3: like we're going to give her a bit or not
17:34
Speaker 3: versus us. It was just about who were the top
17:36
Speaker 3: girls based off their score at the top of our list.
17:41
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it was also the amount of people
17:44
Speaker 1: that we were allowed to take back each day, and
17:47
Speaker 1: so then it came down to they didn't these people
17:51
Speaker 1: all got great scores, but we had so many great scores.
17:55
Speaker 1: So then there was lots of conversations. We had a
17:57
Speaker 1: lot of conversations with like our standards of the sorority
18:04
Speaker 1: and the recruitment chairs in terms of like who what
18:08
Speaker 1: of these great girls do we get to pick? And
18:10
Speaker 1: then you know, when it comes down to pref then
18:12
Speaker 1: it's like you put all your best eggs in one
18:15
Speaker 1: basket and then.
18:16
Speaker 2: You don't even know if everyone's going to pick you.
18:18
Speaker 4: Yeah.
18:19
Speaker 1: I will say that my sorority for the longest time
18:23
Speaker 1: had a ninety nine percent retention rate.
18:26
Speaker 4: That's awesome, pretty great.
18:29
Speaker 5: You guys were preffing hard. Were people crying?
18:31
Speaker 1: To be honest, like I would like to say, I
18:34
Speaker 1: was a great You prefer people cry during our pref
18:37
Speaker 1: We have one of the most insane prefs. I bawled
18:40
Speaker 1: my eyes out my senior and junior year pref because
18:42
Speaker 1: we make it very emotional.
18:44
Speaker 6: Sisterhood to speak my senior year, I get too twins.
18:50
Speaker 4: Yeay, Yeah, that was special.
18:52
Speaker 5: I always sang during preth Are you serious?
18:55
Speaker 2: You're a little musical girl?
18:56
Speaker 5: I like sing. I would sing.
18:59
Speaker 2: You sing for usan's listening.
19:04
Speaker 3: We sang, We sang, guys, We sang a cappella home.
19:08
Speaker 6: You know, my Mumford and son yeah, let me come home.
19:14
Speaker 2: You're so good.
19:19
Speaker 5: Home is whenever I with you.
19:22
Speaker 4: Oh my god, are you serious right now?
19:25
Speaker 5: Wait?
19:25
Speaker 2: You're oh my god.
19:31
Speaker 6: One of many talents. Okay, you have many talents.
19:36
Speaker 4: Blowouts included.
19:37
Speaker 1: You have whatever storty girls are smart.
19:43
Speaker 4: Art can do everything.
19:45
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, I have another tip on the Instagram thing. Okay,
19:49
Speaker 3: you need to follow. This is something I think it
19:52
Speaker 3: is important. You need to follow every sorority at your school.
19:55
Speaker 3: Even if you don't care what some of the stories
19:57
Speaker 3: are doing, you have to follow.
19:59
Speaker 4: That was something I would love for.
20:00
Speaker 3: I'm like, are they just following the top ones or
20:02
Speaker 3: are they following everyone?
20:03
Speaker 1: To second this, do not talk s about other sororities
20:09
Speaker 1: because other people are around you. Other people are they
20:12
Speaker 1: will in.
20:14
Speaker 2: The rogans are smarties.
20:17
Speaker 1: The rogams are also in sororities, and if they hear
20:20
Speaker 1: girls talking about their sorority or other sororities, it gets reported.
20:24
Speaker 2: To panel and then you get dropped immediately.
20:26
Speaker 1: And if you think it's just like you're disappointed or
20:29
Speaker 1: you don't want to go see a house. At my school,
20:32
Speaker 1: it was required that you visited every single house on
20:36
Speaker 1: the first and every single house that brought you back.
20:40
Speaker 4: To show up.
20:43
Speaker 3: If you didn't show up for a round because you
20:45
Speaker 3: were like, I'm not going to be this, and if
20:47
Speaker 3: you if you were wait, we've had a conversation. We've
20:49
Speaker 3: had an episode about this called throwing Around. If you
20:52
Speaker 3: threw around or purposely did not show up to one,
20:56
Speaker 3: you were dropped from recruitment entirely.
20:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that was.
20:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're ours was the same. I don't know why
21:01
Speaker 6: I reacted like that.
21:02
Speaker 4: Curious. I was like, oh my gosh, that's so many.
21:03
Speaker 4: But then I was like, wait, we all did that.
21:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to eat her kit cat.
21:10
Speaker 6: I actually have like another topic. Okay, what I didn't
21:14
Speaker 6: know how to gauge, like going into recruitment was like
21:17
Speaker 6: how to really know what sority was your best fit?
21:19
Speaker 6: And I'm curious what you guys were looking for, Like,
21:21
Speaker 6: were you like hoping to connect with one girl specifically,
21:25
Speaker 6: because I think I've definitely heard that a lot of
21:26
Speaker 6: people will connect really well with an older girl and
21:30
Speaker 6: then they go that sorority because of it, they have
21:32
Speaker 6: an insane bond and then they're a freshmen and the
21:35
Speaker 6: older girls a senior. And it's like I didn't like,
21:38
Speaker 6: like connect with the girls like that in my own PC,
21:41
Speaker 6: but I connected with the senior that's now graduating. So
21:43
Speaker 6: I think it's really hard to know, like exactly how
21:46
Speaker 6: to know what's your right fit. So I'm curious, like you,
21:49
Speaker 6: how you guys knew.
21:50
Speaker 1: So my sorority when we were going through recruitment, there
21:54
Speaker 1: was a lot of talk in just have trust in
21:57
Speaker 1: the process in terms of like if an older girl's
22:01
Speaker 1: recruiting you and you don't think you're gonna get along
22:03
Speaker 1: with the PC, perhaps or not even get along, but
22:06
Speaker 1: just like you're not friendly with them, just trust that
22:08
Speaker 1: the older girls are recruiting the younger girls that think
22:12
Speaker 1: we all have the same minds and have the same interests,
22:16
Speaker 1: Like it's all one collective group of girls that kind
22:20
Speaker 1: of have similar likes and dislikes and values for the
22:23
Speaker 1: most part.
22:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that whichever you feel like aligns with
22:29
Speaker 3: your values the most, and you can like I remember
22:31
Speaker 3: I was at prep and I was there was one
22:33
Speaker 3: sorority where I was like, these girls actually seem really
22:37
Speaker 3: cool and they actually seem like they genuinely really like
22:40
Speaker 3: each other, and the other one I was like, this
22:42
Speaker 3: seems like a little bit of bs that I think
22:46
Speaker 3: they're all like these are just crocodile tears or whatever.
22:50
Speaker 3: I just think, like, trust your gut on it. But
22:53
Speaker 3: also I do think that if there are girls in
22:55
Speaker 3: the sorority, if you feel like, you know, you're really
22:59
Speaker 3: interested in one subject or interested in one area or whatever,
23:02
Speaker 3: and you can see that kind of represented within this sorority,
23:05
Speaker 3: I do think that's important. Like if if you know,
23:09
Speaker 3: you feel like the girls are pursuing their own things,
23:12
Speaker 3: or they're all seem really smart or really academically inclined, like,
23:15
Speaker 3: I think that's important too.
23:17
Speaker 2: But I have another Oh well, to finish that off.
23:21
Speaker 1: I have this one liner that my big told me
23:28
Speaker 1: when she was pressing me, which then I passed on
23:30
Speaker 1: to my little what I was pressing her, and it
23:35
Speaker 1: was pick a house where you feel comfortable going number
23:40
Speaker 1: two in.
23:42
Speaker 3: It's not what I was a lot less cheesy than
23:44
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say.
23:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, if.
23:47
Speaker 1: You can like picture like a house where you can
23:50
Speaker 1: like sit on the toilet and poop and like people
23:54
Speaker 1: are around you, pick that house.
23:56
Speaker 6: And I was like, the last thing I was expecting
24:00
Speaker 6: you to tell me is like pick a house, pick
24:03
Speaker 6: a home, not ah, mine's a lot cheesier than that.
24:05
Speaker 5: But at.
24:07
Speaker 6: Oh, my best friend from high school pref to me,
24:11
Speaker 6: and I remember she was like, I was torn. Even
24:16
Speaker 6: though my best friend was in the house, I was
24:18
Speaker 6: I was torn. And I remember she was like, you
24:20
Speaker 6: need to like look around at the girls in line
24:22
Speaker 6: and like the girls you're talking to before entering and
24:24
Speaker 6: nextiting the house, and like, do you like see yourself
24:27
Speaker 6: being in a PC with them? She's like, at the
24:29
Speaker 6: end of the day, this is what I brought up earlier.
24:30
Speaker 6: You can talk to all these older girls and they
24:31
Speaker 6: can be amazing, but it's gonna be the girls in
24:34
Speaker 6: your PC that are your best friends. And I remember
24:36
Speaker 6: her being like, you need to like look like look
24:38
Speaker 6: around this room right now, like do you see yourself
24:40
Speaker 6: being in a PC with the girls in this room?
24:42
Speaker 6: And I remember that was a big game changer for me.
24:44
Speaker 3: Okay, because I do think this is a really good point,
24:47
Speaker 3: And this leads me to my next question, because it
24:51
Speaker 3: is all about the PC.
24:53
Speaker 4: I know, bridesmaids like you really.
24:57
Speaker 3: In the house with and I do think that like,
25:00
Speaker 3: please fluctuate based off PC. The overall vibe tends to
25:03
Speaker 3: be consistent, but like I do think it matters your PC.
25:07
Speaker 3: And so here's my question to you guys, especially since
25:10
Speaker 3: we all rushed, like right when we got to school
25:13
Speaker 3: even before. If you made friends, you know, prior to
25:18
Speaker 3: rush or during rush, do you think it's a good
25:20
Speaker 3: idea to go a sorority just because?
25:23
Speaker 4: Not just because, but say you're.
25:24
Speaker 3: Torn and you have more friends that you know or
25:27
Speaker 3: girls that you know that you get along with going
25:29
Speaker 3: one sorority, should you go that sorority?
25:35
Speaker 1: Well? I can't answer that because my roommate and my
25:39
Speaker 1: best friend at the time best friend now not best
25:43
Speaker 1: friend at the moment, because we just met each other,
25:46
Speaker 1: we wouldn't tell each other which house is because we
25:48
Speaker 1: really liked each other so much, and so we were
25:52
Speaker 1: hoping that we would end up in the same sorority
25:54
Speaker 1: based on our interests and based on the people that
25:57
Speaker 1: we want to surround ourselves with.
25:58
Speaker 2: Did you and we did?
26:00
Speaker 5: Wow?
26:02
Speaker 4: So that's and that's such a sign. Yeah.
26:05
Speaker 1: So I feel like, you know, if you make the
26:08
Speaker 1: wrong decision and you go a sorority that none of
26:10
Speaker 1: your friends are and who cares it happens to people?
26:13
Speaker 4: You can still be their best friend.
26:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also just go with your gut and like
26:18
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a great time no matter what.
26:20
Speaker 6: Sometimes people like like having their sorority be something kind
26:23
Speaker 6: of separate than their friend group, and it's like where
26:24
Speaker 6: they get involved in leadership and certain other aspects, and
26:27
Speaker 6: it's kind of like, doesn't always have to be your
26:30
Speaker 6: entire friend group and your sorority also because it's fun
26:34
Speaker 6: to bring your friends as dates.
26:35
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
26:36
Speaker 4: Yeah.
26:37
Speaker 3: My best friend from college was my freshman year roommate,
26:39
Speaker 3: and we we went different stories. We actually me and
26:44
Speaker 3: all my rooms prefed the same sorority, but we all
26:47
Speaker 3: ended up in different ones.
26:49
Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy.
26:50
Speaker 3: Because what she did, the one that she like that
26:53
Speaker 3: we all preffed and then I ended up and the
26:55
Speaker 3: one that I was like supposed to end up in,
26:57
Speaker 3: but we had all kind of agreed that we were.
26:59
Speaker 3: So sometimes you know, fate takes over. Yeah, the sororities
27:03
Speaker 3: system takes over and might separate you. But I think
27:10
Speaker 3: I do think, I don't know, especially for everyone going
27:13
Speaker 3: into rush right now, you know, winter semester. I think
27:18
Speaker 3: if you know a group of girls or already have
27:21
Speaker 3: a group of girls that you're friends with, and you
27:23
Speaker 3: are all I don't know interested in the same storty.
27:27
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a.
27:27
Speaker 3: Bad thing for you to go all go that same sorority.
27:33
Speaker 2: No, I don't either.
27:34
Speaker 6: I honestly would give the advice of what Emma did,
27:37
Speaker 6: and I would not tell each other.
27:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what.
27:41
Speaker 6: I would want to do if I was going into
27:42
Speaker 6: second semester rush, which I've never done before. But I
27:44
Speaker 6: would want to not tell each other because I would
27:47
Speaker 6: hope that we'd all end up in the same sworty.
27:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, and kind of it works out.
27:52
Speaker 6: And there's still going to be your friends if they
27:54
Speaker 6: go a different sworty, so you should never feel like
27:55
Speaker 6: pressure to all go the same sworty. Yeah, they'll still
27:58
Speaker 6: be your best friends. Yeah, it's true.
28:02
Speaker 3: The whole I think the whole truth of everything though,
28:04
Speaker 3: is like nothing, None of it is that deep. It's like, yeah,
28:08
Speaker 3: being in a sorority is really fun, but also and
28:12
Speaker 3: getting involved as much as you want or whatever and
28:14
Speaker 3: make the best friends you can, but also getting having
28:17
Speaker 3: friends in different sororities or not in any sororities at all.
28:20
Speaker 5: It's also important too.
28:23
Speaker 6: Yeah, I really do feel strongly that everyone ends up
28:25
Speaker 6: where they're supposed to be like, yeah, and I know
28:28
Speaker 6: that's easier for me to say, and probably you guys
28:32
Speaker 6: as people who probably had a good rush experience. From
28:34
Speaker 6: what you guys are saying, it sounds like, but it's
28:38
Speaker 6: just like even when I feel like someone it's like
28:41
Speaker 6: sad because I know my sworty is dropping someone that
28:43
Speaker 6: I really liked. It's like, I know they're going to
28:45
Speaker 6: be happy where they're going next.
28:47
Speaker 4: And they usually always are.
28:48
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I do feel like it's like everything there's
28:51
Speaker 6: a lot of want to put too much pressure on yourself,
28:54
Speaker 6: like just because you think you want one sorority, Like
28:57
Speaker 6: so many girls end up in a different sworty and
28:58
Speaker 6: they're like, I can't even imagine what my life would
29:00
Speaker 6: be like if I was in that sorty, Like because
29:03
Speaker 6: I love my life right now and the girls I
29:04
Speaker 6: met through my sorority that maybe you didn't want it first,
29:07
Speaker 6: And I just do feel like everything happens for a
29:09
Speaker 6: reason in that process.
29:11
Speaker 2: Yeah.
29:12
Speaker 3: Also, I think my last parting piece of advice is
29:16
Speaker 3: that if you if you end up on bid day
29:20
Speaker 3: and you end up in the sorority that you didn't
29:22
Speaker 3: prep or didn't necessarily want, slap on a smile on
29:26
Speaker 3: your face, agreed, and be happy of it, because I
29:29
Speaker 3: so remember.
29:30
Speaker 4: I still remember the girls.
29:32
Speaker 3: That showed up to our mid day and did not
29:34
Speaker 3: seem excited, and like we're almost like shedding a tear
29:37
Speaker 3: because they wanted to be in another house. And you never
29:40
Speaker 3: forget that because that makes you feel so icky. And
29:43
Speaker 3: I just just keep an open mind, don't get just
29:48
Speaker 3: and if you end up in this sorority that you
29:49
Speaker 3: don't want, there's a reason behind it. And and also
29:52
Speaker 3: it's really not that deep like you're gonna make friends anywhere.
29:55
Speaker 3: Just just go in, especially if you stay open and
29:57
Speaker 3: go in just with positivity.
30:00
Speaker 5: That's what I would say.
30:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for those rushing this January or February whenever
30:08
Speaker 1: second specer rushes, go in with a big smount of
30:11
Speaker 1: positive attitude and you're gonna kill it.
30:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, an end up where you're supposed to be.
30:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, sisters for life. It's just for life. And that'll
30:22
Speaker 2: do it for Dirty Rush. Bye bye,