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Judge Black National Guard to Oregon | Nobel Prize 2025 · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
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  Speaker 1: am six forty. I am six forty.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Handle here Monday morning in October, the sixth and
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  Speaker 2: well first Monday in October means Supreme Court is going
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  Speaker 2: to dive into, I would say, mainly the issue of
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  Speaker 2: presidential power. There's a couple of other fun cases. Guess
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  Speaker 2: what's back, conversion therapy. If you're gay, you hate God?
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  Speaker 2: If you're gay, we're all straighten that out with you praying.
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  Speaker 2: Just really weird stuff, this conversion therapy and now and
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  Speaker 2: it's illegal in a lot of states. And there's a
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  Speaker 2: therapist with filed lawsuit saying if I want to use
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  Speaker 2: conversion therapy, it's my First Amendment right to do.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that a little bit later on.
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  Speaker 2: In the meantime, here is an issue of what's going
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  Speaker 2: on with a president. A federal judge has just blocked
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  Speaker 2: the Trump administration from deploying the California National Guard or
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  Speaker 2: any Guard troops in Oregon, for example. Now this is
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  Speaker 2: a very strange one because again the president pushing the
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  Speaker 2: envelope of power. The President has declared that certain cities
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  Speaker 2: are war zones and under emergency powers that he has,
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  Speaker 2: he can actually move in the National Guard without the
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  Speaker 2: governor asking for it, which is the way it works,
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  Speaker 2: without the mayor asking the governor to ask for it.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, the mayor of Oregon, I
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  Speaker 2: mean the mayor of I think it was Portland, Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 1: Chicago, said we don't want the troops here.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a war zone, this is not a
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  Speaker 2: major invasion. The way the president is declaring that if
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  Speaker 2: he declares we're at war with the bad guys in
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  Speaker 2: these cities, and he has the power to move forward
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  Speaker 2: and bring in the National Guard. Well, in California, it
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  Speaker 2: was ruled the National Guard could not be in California.
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  Speaker 2: The court said you can't do that. So what the
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  Speaker 2: President date is took California National Guard troops and move
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  Speaker 2: them to Oregon. And that's what this judge just said. No,
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  Speaker 2: you can't do that either. And of course there is
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  Speaker 2: an appeal going on. And Newsom said, the rule of
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  Speaker 2: law has prevailed, and this was a lawsuit that the
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  Speaker 2: State of California filed. The California National Guard is heading home,
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  Speaker 2: that's from Oregon. This ruling is more than a legal victory.
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  Speaker 2: It's a victory for American democracy. Trump tried to turn
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  Speaker 2: our soldiers into instrument of his political will, and the
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  Speaker 2: fight continues. Though tonight the rule of law is hell no,
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  Speaker 2: so the jump. The judge temporary blocked the administration from
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  Speaker 2: doing this, which is kind of interesting because the court
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  Speaker 2: up to this point has allowed in the case for
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  Speaker 2: example of detainees, where the constitutionality of certain actions of
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  Speaker 2: the administration is argued, the court has said, yes, there
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  Speaker 2: is a case, but yes, under an emergency order, we're
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  Speaker 2: allowing the Trump administration to go forward with what they're doing,
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  Speaker 2: pending the hearing of the facts of the case. These
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  Speaker 2: are emergency orders that are thrown in. In this case,
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  Speaker 2: it was an emergency order that asked the court ask
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  Speaker 2: this judge, because that's where it all starts, to say, no,
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  Speaker 2: you can't do this. You can't just arbitrary claim that
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  Speaker 2: these cities are war zones based on what you say,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there has to be some connection. And the
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  Speaker 2: judge said that the Trump administration really made no argument
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the facts, it's just not the case.
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  Speaker 2: Local law enforcement can deal with this. Does deal with
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  Speaker 2: this now? Does it deal with it badly?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it does Amy was talking about who comes from
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  Speaker 2: Portland that downtown Portland is a god awful mess. It is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, buildings are boarded up and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the bad guys are there. But does it reach a
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  Speaker 2: level where the president is able to nationalize the Guard
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  Speaker 2: and bring in troops? And that's what's scarying civil libertarians
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  Speaker 2: so much, because the president can simply on his own
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  Speaker 2: declare a city, a state, a war zone, and under
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  Speaker 2: his emergency powers which he is given, then he can
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and nationalize the Guard. And that's the scary
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  Speaker 2: part for a lot of people. What is emergency powers?
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  Speaker 2: Anything the president says is an emergency power. And the
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  Speaker 2: court said, the lower court said, no, I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: have to have some kind of real emergency.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the Trump administration will and did instantly file
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  Speaker 2: for an appeal and we'll see what happens when this one,
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  Speaker 2: now I can't imagine maybe it's going to happen that
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  Speaker 2: goes to Supreme Court, which is going to go very
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  Speaker 2: quickly that the court on an emergency basis, The court
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  Speaker 2: will say, you know, pending a resolution, sure the president
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  Speaker 2: can go forward and declare an emergency any place in
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  Speaker 2: any part of the country he wants, because he has
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  Speaker 2: the power du so under the Emergency Power Act.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Supreme Court starts today.
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  Speaker 2: The nine injustices, we take their seats and they sit
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  Speaker 2: way up there on that mahogany bench, that table, and
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  Speaker 2: now a new.
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  Speaker 1: Term starts now.
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  Speaker 2: Over the past three months, this is during their vacation,
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  Speaker 2: the Court was repeatedly forced to hammer through emergency cases
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  Speaker 2: involving the President. And if you look at the written arguments,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the written decisions, man, it follows
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  Speaker 2: what the country is doing.
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  Speaker 1: Conservatives hating liberals.
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  Speaker 2: Or progressives now and the dissension rides right up to
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  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. And there'll be a lot of high
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  Speaker 2: stakes political confrontations. There'll be disputes. There are disputes or
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  Speaker 2: transgender youth. There's a case that threatens a key provision
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  Speaker 2: of the nineteen sixty five Voting Rights Act, which considered
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  Speaker 2: the landmark case. The judges will be working through this
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  Speaker 2: tension that has developed with lower court judges. And then
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  Speaker 2: you have polling what do the American people think of
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  Speaker 2: the Court, And usually American people think, well, the Court
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  Speaker 2: is one of the most admired places in government, because
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  Speaker 2: the Court was viewed as even a conservative or a
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  Speaker 2: liberal court for the most part among Americans, as something
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  Speaker 2: or an agency that is to be respected and was.
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  Speaker 2: So here's a poll that just came out. It was
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  Speaker 2: Gallup poll. Seventy nine percent of Republicans approve of the court.
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  Speaker 2: Fourteen percent of Democrats approve. Why seventy nine Republicans because
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  Speaker 2: the Court has leaned far right and it was.
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  Speaker 1: A far left court.
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  Speaker 2: What a lot of liberals don't acknowledge is that when
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  Speaker 2: we talk about the Warren Court, which was decades and
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  Speaker 2: decades ago, it was for the most part of Warren Court,
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  Speaker 2: and until President Trump nominated and got confirmed three very
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  Speaker 2: conservative justices that switched the majority. Now it's six' three
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  Speaker 2: in favor of conservative. Judges it was considered a liberal.
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  Speaker 2: Court so The court wrapped up its last term In.
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  Speaker 2: June what it does is that here's cases all like Now,
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  Speaker 2: october and Come, june the day the last week of
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  Speaker 2: the term outcomes all the decisions and.
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  Speaker 1: It is a, big big deal when that.
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  Speaker 2: Comes so In, june there was a DECISION i touched
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  Speaker 2: on the president's.
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  Speaker 1: Power it's a big.
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  Speaker 2: One, here a six to three majority took out one
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  Speaker 2: path that lower courts have used for years to block
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  Speaker 2: a president's. Policies The trump administration, arguing how do you
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  Speaker 2: have one judge can stop an entire federal policy from going?
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  Speaker 1: Forward and The court, said, yeah you're.
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  Speaker 2: Right so now the court turns to three major cases
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  Speaker 2: involving the.
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  Speaker 1: President the.
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  Speaker 2: Tariffs congress has the right to impose those. Tariffs, however
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  Speaker 2: under authority of The International Emergency Economics Power, act to
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  Speaker 2: impose those. Duties The president can do this effectively by
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  Speaker 2: saying that we are under, attack that it is a national,
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  Speaker 2: emergency our economic, position and therefore it's basically a war
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  Speaker 2: power that he is saying to impose those.
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  Speaker 1: Terrorists can he do? It that's what the court has to.
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  Speaker 2: Do how about the firing of leaders at independent government?
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  Speaker 2: Agencies how independent are government agencies? Now they used to
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  Speaker 2: not be. Independent it was AFTER fdr became president that
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden we had agencies become totally, independent
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  Speaker 2: especially The Federal. Reserve the point is we did not
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  Speaker 2: want The Federal reserve to be a political. Body, well
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  Speaker 2: guess what the president says it is and he has
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  Speaker 2: the right to fire whoever the hell he wants if
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  Speaker 2: they work for the executive. Branch, effectively there's no such
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  Speaker 2: thing as an independent agency anymore in The United. States
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  Speaker 2: the president has full power and that is what The
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  Speaker 2: court is going to. Decide by the, Way conservatives have
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  Speaker 2: been arguing that for years transgender, rights, well that one
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  Speaker 2: affects almost no, one but it's a big it's a
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  Speaker 2: big issue when it comes to his, base THE maga.
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  Speaker 2: Supporters and that is In june and a six' three
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  Speaker 2: conservative majority exactly with the court planned out or the court,
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  Speaker 2: pans out they Upheld the tennessee law that bans gender
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  Speaker 2: affirming care for. Trans miners that's a fairly, big deal
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  Speaker 2: except how many are. Out there and then the court
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  Speaker 2: goes into sexuality and the gender of minors the day.
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  Speaker 2: After reconvening that. Starts tomorrow there's a challenge To the
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  Speaker 2: colorado law banning. Conversion therapy that's a. Big one, CONVERSION therapy,
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  Speaker 2: i mean that's. Crazy stuff it's a practice has been
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  Speaker 2: discredited for converting gay people or transgender people back into
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  Speaker 2: being straight with with prayer, and uh with just how
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  Speaker 2: do you even? Do this? With response in, other words
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  Speaker 2: they show porno films, for example and electric, shock therapy
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  Speaker 2: and so every time you see a, porno film all of,
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  Speaker 2: a sudden You's.
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  Speaker 1: Like pavlovian that's sort of.
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  Speaker 2: THE outskirts, i mean there, are issues there were people that,
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  Speaker 2: did that but effectively saying that homosexuality is uh a is,
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  Speaker 2: a sickness, is depraved and we're going to bring you
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  Speaker 2: back to straightness straight hood by converting you. Through prayer
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  Speaker 2: and this. Is religious by, The Way mike pence was,
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  Speaker 2: a big big believer. Of this he was part of
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  Speaker 2: an organization and matter, OF fact i think he was
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  Speaker 2: head of an organization that.
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  Speaker 1: Did this uh THAT one i.
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  Speaker 2: Find incredible and then it has to do it with
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  Speaker 2: state spanning transgender students from playing on.
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  Speaker 1: SPORTS seeming i think.
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  Speaker 2: We all agree that if you were born a male
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  Speaker 2: and therefore have the, male stuff the skeletal strength and, muscle,
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  Speaker 2: mass yeah don't. Play that and then the, big one
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  Speaker 2: another big. One redistricting now the court took they.
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  Speaker 1: Punted the case because of the claim of.
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  Speaker 2: Racial jerymandering can state jerry mander canni? State, Redistrict, yeah
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  Speaker 2: canni state do it on, racial grounds because that's what this,
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  Speaker 2: Is about black areas versus white Areas read Democrat. Versus
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  Speaker 2: republicans can it, be done, don't know but it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be emergency request after. Emergency request it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a. Big ONE and i think it all boils
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  Speaker 2: down to presidential power and where it's going.
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  Speaker 1: To go, All right this week is.
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  Speaker 2: The announcement of The Various nobel prizes are happening all.
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  Speaker 2: THE way i Think The medicine prize just, came out
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  Speaker 2: or the physics prizes. Came out usually no one knows
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  Speaker 2: who these, people are and for the, most part it's,
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  Speaker 2: weird stuff very obscure scientific discoveries. And developments and Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: The nobel prize. Is shared there'll be two people or.
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  Speaker 2: Three people they get it from. Different countries and so
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  Speaker 2: the one that everybody looks at Is The, peace Prize
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  Speaker 2: The Nobel, peace prize which is not only the, most
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  Speaker 2: controversial the most interesting one. Of all that's Announced, on
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  Speaker 2: friday And the president has pushed for it very. Very
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  Speaker 2: hard he's not going to, get it and, interestingly enough
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  Speaker 2: what he's been able, to do especially if he puts
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  Speaker 2: together this, peace plan and he's the only person that
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  Speaker 2: can probably make. It Happen between Gaza. And israel there's
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  Speaker 2: a good argument that he should get it based on
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  Speaker 2: those accomplishments and based on what they've given peace prizes
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  Speaker 2: before to various people that make no, SENSE whatsoever, i
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  Speaker 2: mean just. Crazy sense so he is arguing For The.
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  Speaker 2: Peace prize he'll never, get it and not whether he
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  Speaker 2: deserves it. Or not that's a whole issue we're. Talking
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  Speaker 2: about it's just they don't. LIKE him, i mean he
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  Speaker 2: is not the most well liked person in, the world
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  Speaker 2: especially among.
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  Speaker 1: Our allies.
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  Speaker 2: And that's. Who decides it's a. Close committee no one
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  Speaker 2: knows who. They are And The nobel prize in and
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  Speaker 2: of itself is kind. Of Interesting alfred nobel invented, dyno
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  Speaker 2: might and he, dyna might and the story is that
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  Speaker 2: he was frightened a hell. Of it he realized the danger,
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  Speaker 2: of it and so therefore he developed the, various prizes
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  Speaker 2: and he started with.
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  Speaker 1: The prize by, the way he was a very very.
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  Speaker 2: Wealthy, guy today the prize is keeping the. Principle together
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  Speaker 2: they never go into. The principle they always take what the.
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  Speaker 2: Principle makes what's in the account is about one point
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  Speaker 2: two million dollars per prize is, handed out so it's
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  Speaker 2: about six seven million dollars eight million dollars that's handed out.
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  Speaker 1: Every year in some years they don't even.
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  Speaker 2: Give it so in eighteen, ninety five here's. The story
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  Speaker 2: nobel writes his third and, last will establishing Five, prizes,
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  Speaker 2: chemistry literature physiology, or, medicine physics And.
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  Speaker 1: The, peace prize the.
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  Speaker 2: Big one and he dies the next year and the
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  Speaker 2: first prizes were.
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  Speaker 1: Giving out in nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh One teddy roosevelt won it for negotiating, the War
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  Speaker 2: The Russo japanese war the turn of the. Last century
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  Speaker 2: and it's such a interesting story about how he did
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  Speaker 2: it and the various people who get. The prize, for
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  Speaker 2: example in nineteen, fifty three the Laureate WAS. George, c
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  Speaker 2: marshall president Of The red cross and founder Of The,
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  Speaker 2: marshall Plan which europe came back as a viable set,
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  Speaker 2: of countries All of europe Without The, Peace prize Without
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  Speaker 2: the marshall planet would have.
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  Speaker 1: Fallen apart but.
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  Speaker 2: At the same time he had been COMMANDER of us
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  Speaker 2: military forces during, the war and that doesn't bode Well For.
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  Speaker 2: PEACE prize A new Secretary of Defense huh in nineteen,
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  Speaker 2: SEVENTY Three us Secretary Of Saint henry Kissinger and Lee Dut,
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  Speaker 2: Tow vietnam vietnam's chief negotiator negotiating, The armisists, coe, said no,
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  Speaker 2: not interested wouldn't accept the prize because peace had not
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  Speaker 2: yet been Established.
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  Speaker 1: In vietnam this was The Armisticist.
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  Speaker 2: Mother, teresa now who's going to Disagree With mother teresa
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen. Seventy, nine now she was not involved in
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  Speaker 2: any peace plan, between nations which is usually. The case
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  Speaker 2: but of course she Founded the Missionaries Of. Charity Americans
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  Speaker 2: jane adams was that the way at the turn of the,
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  Speaker 2: last century establishing these homes for, poor people.
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  Speaker 1: Which was.
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  Speaker 2: Unheard Of Martin luther king. Got It jane Adams Established,
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  Speaker 2: hull house that was the name. Of it king became
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  Speaker 2: the youngest at age. Thirty five So The peace prize
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  Speaker 2: also has gone to. Various Committees amnesty international Got The,
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  Speaker 2: peace prize the, Organization Itself Dodgers without borders. Got it
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  Speaker 2: so we're going to see who Gets The. Peace Prize
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  Speaker 2: barack obama Won The nobel prize for his. Extraordinary achievements what?
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  Speaker 1: Are they his? Extraordinary achievements what? Were they.
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  Speaker 2: He? Got elected that's What The Nobel. Peace prize so
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna hear About The nobel prize coming Up. On
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  Speaker 2: friday the prize, for literature we're gonna. Hear midweek usually
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  Speaker 2: it's people who you've never, Heard of peruvian poets who
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  Speaker 2: sit on top of mountains that. Produce Crap But bob
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  Speaker 2: dillon won it last year. For literature first time a
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  Speaker 2: songwriter ever Won The, PEACE prize i ever Won A.
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  Speaker 1: Nobel prize that's.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty, impressive which by, the way he wouldn't go to,
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  Speaker 2: accept it which who the hell doesn't go to Accept The.
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  Speaker 2: Nobel Prize bob dylan just, not interested wouldn't go to.
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  Speaker 2: The ceremony he later did accept, the prize but last
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  Speaker 2: day that was allowed to be accepted and it was Very.
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  Speaker 2: JUST yeah i think he sent someone to pick. It
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  Speaker 2: up so we're gonna see. What happens what's the first
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  Speaker 2: prize just? Been, ESTABLISHED amy i think medicine just, came,
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  Speaker 2: out right.
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  Speaker 1: Medicine, Was, today Yes two americans And a japanese. Person,
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  Speaker 1: wanted yeah they.
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  Speaker 2: SHARE it a lot of people share because medicine is now,
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  Speaker 2: very international it's.
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  Speaker 1: Very.
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  Speaker 2: Collaborative yeah it was for the body's response to immune, system.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah now it's getting.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty obscure these the prizes go for various inventions and
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  Speaker 2: developments that are. Very obscure, all right coming out Of
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  Speaker 2: The peace prize On The, literature prize? Can't wait, all
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  Speaker 2: right now we have you know this one IS when
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  Speaker 2: i started looking, INTO this, i went, come, On really
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  Speaker 2: california has an incredible. Nursing shortage but, IN fact i
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  Speaker 2: had lunch with was it saturday? OR yesterday i had
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  Speaker 2: Lunch With jim keeney Who Runs. Mary hospital he's a
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  Speaker 2: medical Director Of, saint mary and we always talk about what's,
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  Speaker 2: going on what's going on in. The WORLD and i, asked,
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  Speaker 2: him so what are the most challenging things you have
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  Speaker 2: now that you're a? Medical director and, he says one
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  Speaker 2: of them is the. Nursing shortage we just don't have.
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  Speaker 1: Enough nurses.
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  Speaker 2: Nurses are, desperately needed particularly Here, in california and you've
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  Speaker 2: got demand. For nurses you have, retirement burnout a lot
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  Speaker 2: of them are leaving. Like crazy but you want to,
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  Speaker 2: know something there are two reasons why we have such a.
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  Speaker 2: Nursing shortage there are plenty of people that want to.
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  Speaker 1: Be nurses.
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  Speaker 2: There are plenty of schools, out there but they can't find,
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  Speaker 2: enough faculty and there aren't the hands on training opportunities
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  Speaker 2: because that's, the law you have to train fifteen teen.
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  Speaker 2: Hundred hours and a lot of these hospitals are not
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  Speaker 2: interested in. Training nurses they just don't want to. Train
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  Speaker 2: anybody they just have to do their job and just dealing.
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  Speaker 1: With nursing and there is.
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  Speaker 2: The problem so you had Here in california in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two to. Twenty three it's the last most recent,
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  Speaker 2: data available fifty eight thousand applications.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: By.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Qualified students right bottom line is a third, were accepted
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: just a third with this kind.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Of shortage and these are.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Qualified people why because there just isn't enough teaching and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: the whole, excuse me and this law that requires hands
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: on just stops.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Everything cold are?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Their, answers, well yeah some of the teaching, colleges saying tell,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you what why don't we get these, fake people, you
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: know the simulated people you put like like you have,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the models, you know the silicon models that you DO ccp,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: r on, you know and they have technology there that they,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: can bleed they can, stop breathing they can, do whatever
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and let's.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Use, those nope not. A chance.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: We want we the nursing lobby wants to be right hands.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: On again they want to, control everything and this has
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: really pissed off a lot, of people even to the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: point where last year the legislature approved sixty million dollars
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: five year grand to expand community college nursing programs partnerships
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: with four year schools for bachelor's degree because that's what,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: nursing is it's a, bachelor's degree.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: And they just don't. Have ENOUGH so i wanted to talk.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: ABOUT this i wanted to because there's a good chance
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: next week you're going to have a loved one that's
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: going to be in a facility and because there are
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: a shortage of, nurses there your loved one. WILL die
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: i just want to point. That out or maybe you
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: will die one of. The two And what i'm going
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to do IS say i told you. Last, Week right
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