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THE CLASSIC METAL SHOW 10/10/26: Is Judas Priest Still Judas Priest? Aerosmith's $1,000 Comeback & Def Leppard's Strange Tour? · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_02: Hey, this is Craig from Forbidden, and you're watching CMS-TV.
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SPEAKER_02: It is your Classic Metal Show right here on theclassicmetalshow.com.
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SPEAKER_02: Kicking off the show tonight.
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SPEAKER_02: We heard Wasp from the Headless Children release with the title track
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SPEAKER_02: and Judas Priest there with the Sentinel and a guy who actually was a Sentinel
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SPEAKER_02: in his military life.
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SPEAKER_02: A good friend and partner, Chris Akin.
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SPEAKER_02: What's going on there, Chris?
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SPEAKER_02: What is up, boss?
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SPEAKER_02: How are we doing?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, we're back.
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SPEAKER_02: Back again.
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SPEAKER_02: Back to entertain the masses.
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SPEAKER_02: We are.
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SPEAKER_02: Or piss them all off.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, the people we piss off are not our fans.
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SPEAKER_02: That is true.
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SPEAKER_02: That is very true.
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SPEAKER_02: So fuck them.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what I say.
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SPEAKER_02: Fuck them in their assholes.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what I say.
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SPEAKER_02: Yipper.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, here we are again.
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SPEAKER_02: Of course,
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SPEAKER_02: our CMS faithful have gathered in the various chat rooms and hanging out
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SPEAKER_02: with everybody.
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SPEAKER_02: And it always amazes me that when I'm doing Getting a studio set up and getting
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SPEAKER_02: the computers running and making sure everything's up and running.
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SPEAKER_02: And I check in on the chat room, you know, half hour, 40 minutes.
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SPEAKER_02: There's people already in there.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a community now.
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SPEAKER_00: It really isn't just, well, the show's on.
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SPEAKER_00: I better go in there and throw some shade.
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SPEAKER_00: It's really become like a family sort
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SPEAKER_02: of thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, people show up early.
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SPEAKER_02: I think Shelly Rocks was in the CMS chat room, like, Almost an hour before the show.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: So she popped in there.
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SPEAKER_02: She's like, I'm ready.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm ready for these boys.
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SPEAKER_02: Ready for these guys to do whatever it is that they do.
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SPEAKER_00: Talk their shit and make me laugh.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: Hopefully we can bring you some ha-has tonight.
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SPEAKER_02: I hope.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we like to bring you the ha-has when we can,
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SPEAKER_02: but we never even know what we're going to talk about.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: I thought we did some funny stuff last week.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, again, we try,
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SPEAKER_02: but again,
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SPEAKER_02: you never know what the subject material is going to bring out
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SPEAKER_02: from our tiny pea brains.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_03: It's all just riffing.
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SPEAKER_03: It's one big long phone call.
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SPEAKER_02: That's really what it is.
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SPEAKER_02: It really is.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just wacky because,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: you and I have been doing this for so long that we just turn on the mics and go.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, it's funny because a lot of times when we do get on the phone,
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SPEAKER_00: one of us has to say, all right, that's enough because we end up doing a show.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we'll end up burning out our whole repertoire,
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SPEAKER_02: but we could probably find other things to talk about very easily,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, come showtime.
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SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what I never understood,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, about,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: I've been listening back because kind of from nostalgia purposes,
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SPEAKER_02: being that it is October, I go back and listen to the ONA Jocktober Supercuts.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure, sure, sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you listen to those?
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SPEAKER_00: I haven't in a while.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've listened to them all.
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SPEAKER_00: So I certainly have heard them, but I haven't listened in a while.
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SPEAKER_02: But somebody took the time to put all of the Supercut the entire month of October
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SPEAKER_02: for each year that they did this.
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SPEAKER_02: I think they started it in 2008.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And it ended in 2013.
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SPEAKER_02: So there's seven years worth.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: No, that's two, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13.
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SPEAKER_02: No, six years worth.
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SPEAKER_00: Six years.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, six years worth of jocktober.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And they cover...
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SPEAKER_02: Some of these radio stations, these morning duos that were actually husband and wife.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And you got to wonder, well, how is, and of course, they didn't have a freeform show like we do.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: But how do you work a radio show with your wife on a daily basis,
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SPEAKER_02: on a morning show basis,
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SPEAKER_02: and have anything to talk about that sounds, you know, what do you want to call it?
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SPEAKER_03: Interesting?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, interesting,
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SPEAKER_02: but not rehearsed, like you didn't even talk about it prior to the show.
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SPEAKER_00: Like you didn't talk about it riding into the station or whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly, riding into the station together.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, we've got to talk about that tomorrow on the show.
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SPEAKER_00: And you know how it starts.
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SPEAKER_00: You start off listening to some music in the car or something,
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SPEAKER_00: and then before too long it turns into,
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SPEAKER_00: you know what we really should talk about today?
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SPEAKER_00: And then it's some rehearsed bullshit.
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SPEAKER_00: Remember, we used to make fun of Rover all the time about that, where he would start with that.
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SPEAKER_00: I got to tell you, I have this friend, and he was on a boat.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you really have that friend on the boat?
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SPEAKER_00: Are you just making up shit?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's what they did.
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SPEAKER_02: They made up shit.
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SPEAKER_02: It didn't sound like it was spontaneous at all.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, I can tell you they made up shit because I was in the studio the night before.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, let's make up a story about this.
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SPEAKER_02: As our friend Jim Florentine would say, stories that never happened.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Can you imagine even having a show where you talk about stuff and try to have
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SPEAKER_02: to make up something to sound interesting?
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't even imagine making stuff up.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't even really like doing any sort of planning.
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SPEAKER_00: None.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that's why we don't.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean,
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SPEAKER_02: it's very rare when you and I say that we'll talk about something on the show,
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SPEAKER_02: but if it isn't something that I don't even know is coming,
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SPEAKER_02: then it's not interesting to me.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Because you have zero idea what I might have on my list here to talk about.
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SPEAKER_02: I have zero idea of things that you have on your list that you might want to talk about.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's on purpose.
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SPEAKER_02: That is on purpose.
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SPEAKER_02: We used to do it
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SPEAKER_00: the other way.
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SPEAKER_00: It wasn't as fun.
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SPEAKER_02: True.
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SPEAKER_02: But we were still finding our way at that point.
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SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02: You know.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: we just figured out that I'm not going to tell you or reveal to you
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SPEAKER_02: that I have anything in particular and vice versa.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's just, it works.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It's gotten so far now that I don't even look at the request mail or nothing
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SPEAKER_00: because I know that's where you pull a lot of stuff from.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, that's where I put a lot of my, I email myself through the week.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So I don't even look.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't want to even interfere on that.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, that's Neely's zone.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't want nothing to do with that.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when I'm,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: through the week,
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SPEAKER_02: if I stumble across something that looks like, oh,
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SPEAKER_02: this might make good show fodder,
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SPEAKER_02: I email it to myself and I have it all here in front of me.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's how I keep track of, you know, stories that we might cover.
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SPEAKER_02: And usually 90% of it never gets covered.
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SPEAKER_00: Same here.
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SPEAKER_00: I usually have 10 bullet points and we get to like 300.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I usually email myself half a dozen stories a week and maybe we might touch on two.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Too funny.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's how it works, but it's fun.
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SPEAKER_02: I enjoy it.
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SPEAKER_02: I enjoy it.
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SPEAKER_02: And I enjoy you, the audience who chooses to tune in every week and be a part of our world.
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SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: So welcome.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome all.
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SPEAKER_03: Hi, people.
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SPEAKER_02: So anyway,
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SPEAKER_02: since we are back,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, typically our first hour of the show is our catch-up, our catch-up.
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SPEAKER_02: What did you do this week?
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SPEAKER_02: What did you do this week?
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SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: Well,
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SPEAKER_02: I guess for most of you who are fans of the show and maybe check out our locals,
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SPEAKER_02: you're aware that I made the trip out last night to go see Wasp and KK's Priest at
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SPEAKER_02: the...
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SPEAKER_02: Des Plaines.
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SPEAKER_02: Des Plaines Theater.
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SPEAKER_02: I always want to say Arcata.
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SPEAKER_02: It's both own nesty properties.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, at the Des Plaines Theater last night.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm telling you what, both bands, very impressive.
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SPEAKER_02: Very impressive.
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SPEAKER_00: Wasp is not lip syncing?
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SPEAKER_00: Or they are?
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Not at all.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: I shot a bunch of video.
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SPEAKER_02: Chris was kind enough to put it into a montage and put it up on our Locals page.
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SPEAKER_02: If you're not a subscriber or, you know, check out our Locals page, you should go over there.
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SPEAKER_02: It's classicmetalshow.locals.com.
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SPEAKER_02: But anyway,
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SPEAKER_02: Chris was kind enough to put a whole montage of video that I shot last night
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SPEAKER_02: for both KK Priest and Wasp.
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SPEAKER_02: And I tried to grab two to four minutes of each song.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's long.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like the video is like an hour and a half.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you get a really good sampling of both performances.
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SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
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SPEAKER_02: this just goes back to the subject that you and I got a lot of heat over this week
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SPEAKER_02: because of our discussion of Quiet Riot and so on and so forth.
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SPEAKER_02: KK...
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SPEAKER_02: He's what, pushing 80?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let's see what he is.
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SPEAKER_02: And he's like 77 or 78 or something like that, I think.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something like that.
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SPEAKER_00: He's old.
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SPEAKER_00: 74.
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SPEAKER_02: 74, okay.
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SPEAKER_02: That guy has kept himself in immaculate shape.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And Tim, Tim is kind of a big boy, but boy, he has slimmed down too.
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SPEAKER_00: He posts like, you know, I see him on Facebook every day.
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SPEAKER_00: He has become a gym rat.
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SPEAKER_00: He lives in the gym.
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SPEAKER_02: He is.
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SPEAKER_02: But boy, his vocals are phenomenal.
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SPEAKER_02: He was holding out the long screams and stuff last night.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, Jesus, Tim, you sound better than ever.
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SPEAKER_02: And the rest of the band, they're the rock stars you want to see.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: they're just up there,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, obviously it's KK's Priest, so it's Judas Priest 2.0.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And, you know, they come out looking like the rock stars you want to see on stage.
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SPEAKER_02: The long hair, the studded leather, the, you know, the attitude, the rocking out.
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SPEAKER_02: And, you know, of course, the stage show was, you know...
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SPEAKER_02: The red,
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SPEAKER_02: a lot of red lights and a lot of,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: kind of dark content and,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, it's just, it is just a classic metal style show that you want to see.
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SPEAKER_02: That's great.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: and of course the,
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SPEAKER_02: the set was heavy of priest,
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SPEAKER_02: uh, material and then, you know, some KK original material.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: but boy,
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SPEAKER_02: the fans were having a great time and this band sounded great and KK looked great
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SPEAKER_02: and Tim sounded fantastic.
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SPEAKER_02: And boy, they just had, they made a, it was a very fast paced show.
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SPEAKER_02: There was no lull in the action at all.
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SPEAKER_00: How long do they play?
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SPEAKER_02: An hour.
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SPEAKER_00: An hour?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they get a whole hour.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: And then...
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SPEAKER_02: Wasp came on,
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SPEAKER_02: and I've seen Wasp the last two go rounds in the last,
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SPEAKER_02: what, four years, I guess, over the last four years, three to four years.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Boy, the new improved Blackie Lawless was impressive.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: He's all slimmed down now, too.
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SPEAKER_02: He's looking lean and mean like he did back in the day.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: And if you get to see any of the video that is posted over on our locals, I purposely...
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SPEAKER_02: Zoomed in on Blackie singing just to see if you could detect any backing tracks or anything.
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SPEAKER_02: I did not detect any backing tracks at all last night.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, great.
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SPEAKER_02: None.
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SPEAKER_02: The last two times I saw them,
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SPEAKER_02: there were times it was very, very obvious there were backing tracks.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: I did not see any lead vocal backing tracks at all.
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SPEAKER_02: Blackie sounded fantastic.
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SPEAKER_02: And the way that they go back to back to back on these shows,
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SPEAKER_02: they're doing three, four shows in a row.
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SPEAKER_02: And if Blackie is singing like that at every show, amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that's awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: You caught him after.
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SPEAKER_00: Didn't he miss a show because he was sick or something?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was last Saturday.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so he's back.
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SPEAKER_00: He's obviously back.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know what the reason was.
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SPEAKER_02: They canceled the show.
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SPEAKER_02: It happened while we were talking here.
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SPEAKER_02: Right, right, right.
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SPEAKER_02: You brought it up during the show.
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SPEAKER_02: You said that Wasp bailed out and KK's priest did a headline show.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Was it in New Jersey or something?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So anyway,
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SPEAKER_02: I was very impressed with That,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, Blackie has really gotten himself in shape.
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SPEAKER_02: Holy cow.
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SPEAKER_02: He looked, he was just as thin as a rail up there and sounded fantastic.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, so, and,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: he's got a great tight band and,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, the,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: the backing vocals and everything that his band delivers is, you know, spot on.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So both, both bands, very disciplined.
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SPEAKER_02: They brought it, both bands brought it.
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SPEAKER_02: So.
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SPEAKER_02: I took Scarfoot with me.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And we were both, we were just like both blown away.
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SPEAKER_02: It was just like, holy shit.
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SPEAKER_02: Nice.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm thinking, you know, I don't know what these tickets cost me.
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SPEAKER_02: I think they were maybe 90 bucks.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm thinking,
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SPEAKER_02: I would rather go see this show than go see Metallica for $7,000 at the Sphere.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: This was over two hours worth of music.
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SPEAKER_02: Not all the same band music.
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SPEAKER_02: It was great priest music.
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SPEAKER_02: It was great wasp music.
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SPEAKER_02: And it was a great show.
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SPEAKER_02: And the crowd was great.
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SPEAKER_02: Everybody was cool.
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SPEAKER_02: A lot of people come up, said hello.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I've seen them at other shows.
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SPEAKER_02: And there was a guy, his name is Scott.
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SPEAKER_02: We met him, me and Scarfoot.
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SPEAKER_02: We went to see John Bush.
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SPEAKER_02: At the Arcata back in, I think it was January.
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SPEAKER_02: It was December.
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SPEAKER_02: It was December last year.
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SPEAKER_02: And after the show,
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SPEAKER_02: we went across the street to a pizza place and a bunch of people came over there
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SPEAKER_02: and, you know, they were getting close to closing down.
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SPEAKER_02: And so basically I bought up all the pizza that they had left and I let anybody
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SPEAKER_02: who had it who wanted some take some.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: so that's where he met the Scott guy and we,
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SPEAKER_02: Scarfoot and I, we just went into this little bar.
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SPEAKER_02: We were looking to have something to eat before the show
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SPEAKER_02: and there just was nothing around the Des Plaines Theater.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, nothing food wise.
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15:59
SPEAKER_02: So we thought this little bar would have some food and there was probably
16:04
SPEAKER_02: a couple dozen people in the bar just hanging out.
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SPEAKER_02: Ready to go to the show.
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SPEAKER_02: There was one bartender there, a young bartender, and I said, do you guys got a food menu here?
16:15
SPEAKER_02: And she goes, oh, we're just serving frozen pizza.
16:18
SPEAKER_02: And she goes,
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SPEAKER_02: I'm the only one here that is bartending and making the pizza,
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SPEAKER_02: so I can't make any right now.
16:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm just like, okay.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: So Scott and his buds were all hanging there, and he walked, hey, Neely.
16:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm just like, whoa, you know, this guy, you know.
16:35
SPEAKER_02: Hey.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: So he buys us,
16:39
SPEAKER_02: he buys me and Mike a drink,
16:41
SPEAKER_02: you know, and,
16:42
SPEAKER_02: you know, just shooting the shit and introducing us to all his friends and his son.
16:46
SPEAKER_02: He brought his son out and, you know, everybody's having a good time.
16:50
SPEAKER_02: And so we thought, well, we're going to go try to find something to eat, you know.
16:54
SPEAKER_02: So we left the bar and we kind of walked around like a block radius
16:59
SPEAKER_02: and there was nothing around.
17:00
SPEAKER_00: Right.
17:01
SPEAKER_02: So the Des Plaines Theater has a speakeasy in there and we thought,
17:05
SPEAKER_02: well, this place is going to get packed.
17:07
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's going to be too crowded.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
17:09
SPEAKER_02: Well, we went in there and we found table and stuff and Scott and his buddies were in there too.
17:15
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, you want some pizza?
17:17
SPEAKER_02: And he comes over and brings us another drink and it's like too I said,
17:22
SPEAKER_02: are you feeling generous tonight?
17:24
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm just like having a good time, man.
17:26
SPEAKER_02: I like to see everybody have a great time.
17:28
SPEAKER_02: All right.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: One of us.
17:30
SPEAKER_02: So it's like, thanks, Scott.
17:32
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, just hanging out.
17:34
SPEAKER_02: So it was good.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: Everybody was very cool.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: A lot of people just come up to say hello to you randomly, you know?
17:39
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
17:39
SPEAKER_02: It was just kind of funny and just, hey, man, good to see you again.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: Because it's kind of a tight-knit community when you go to these shows.
17:47
SPEAKER_02: Right.
17:47
SPEAKER_02: You know, you go to the Arcata or the Displanes Theater.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: Right.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: When they have shows of these legacy metal bands and,
17:54
SPEAKER_02: you know, you see the same faces quite a bit.
17:56
SPEAKER_02: It's like when,
17:57
SPEAKER_02: you know,
17:58
SPEAKER_02: when you and I and people who lived in the Cleveland area would go to the Odeon or
18:02
SPEAKER_02: to the Agora or, you know, something, you see a lot of the same faces all the time.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, you see all the same,
18:07
SPEAKER_02: the same hundred people are there.
18:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure, sure.
18:11
SPEAKER_02: So anyway,
18:12
SPEAKER_02: if you have an opportunity to go to the show,
18:15
SPEAKER_02: which Mr. Aiken, by the way, you have an opportunity to go to the show.
18:21
SPEAKER_02: I do?
18:22
SPEAKER_02: You do.
18:24
SPEAKER_02: Our good friend, the Wasp KK Priest show coming to Cleveland on Thursday.
18:31
SPEAKER_02: This week, Thursday?
18:33
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
18:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm lost.
18:34
SPEAKER_03: What are you talking about?
18:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, our good friend Matt Barth from Cincinnati.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: He sends us an email.
18:43
SPEAKER_02: It says, hey, Chris, Matt in Cincinnati here.
18:46
SPEAKER_02: I was planning to go to the WASH show in Cleveland on Thursday at the Agora,
18:50
SPEAKER_02: and I can't make it now.
18:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't know anyone in Cleveland who would use the ticket, so I sent it in this email.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: If you can't go, give it to a friend or whatever.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm bummed I can't go now, especially with KK's pre in the support slot.
19:05
SPEAKER_02: Also, the ticket is through AXS, not Ticketmaster, fuck them.
19:11
SPEAKER_02: Hale and Cal, Matt in Cincinnati.
19:14
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
19:15
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's pretty nice.
19:16
SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Matt.
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SPEAKER_03: I very much appreciate that.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: So Matt has bestowed a ticket upon you to go see the show that I saw last night.
19:25
SPEAKER_03: All right.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: I'll have to look to make sure I don't have anything, but I don't think I do.
19:28
SPEAKER_00: That'd be great.
19:29
SPEAKER_02: And then being that Ripper is a hometown boy, you might be able to hook up with him.
19:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure I probably can.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I interviewed him for, I think, this record.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: Right.
19:39
SPEAKER_00: And I've got his email address and his phone number.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: I could probably just call him.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: That's what I would do.
19:45
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so yes.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: So you have been bestowed a ticket to go see Wasp and KK's Priest Thursday at
19:54
SPEAKER_02: the Cleveland Agora.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, thank you, Matt, from Cincinnati.
19:57
SPEAKER_03: I very much appreciate that.
19:59
SPEAKER_03: That's very cool.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: So...
20:02
SPEAKER_02: So thanks, Matt.
20:03
SPEAKER_02: That was very, very cool of you to hook Chris up for this.
20:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's very cool.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: I very much appreciate that.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: Gives me something to do.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: I like that.
20:14
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, our fans giving back.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: I like it.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: I have to find something in the old prize closet for Matt.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: Got to do that.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: Got to pay it back somehow.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: I can't just say, well, I'm.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: I got a microphone and you listen to me.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: So thanks for the ticket and fuck off.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: Right.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: I got to find something.
20:33
SPEAKER_03: I'll find something.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
20:36
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, that's what happened last night.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: Very cool that, you know, a great show.
20:45
SPEAKER_02: I was actually looking forward more to seeing KK's Priest than Wasp
20:50
SPEAKER_02: because I've seen Wasp, like I said, the last couple of times that came around.
20:54
SPEAKER_02: But boy, it's like a re-energized band.
20:59
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
20:59
SPEAKER_02: You know, Blackie is just top, top form.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's great.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
21:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm looking forward now to seeing it on Thursday.
21:08
SPEAKER_03: That's fantastic.
21:10
SPEAKER_02: So this week, Dokken has been out on the road in the Pennsylvania area.
21:15
SPEAKER_02: They were in the Pittsburgh area on Wednesday.
21:18
SPEAKER_02: Right.
21:19
SPEAKER_02: And then they played in Jim Thorpe,
21:21
SPEAKER_02: Pennsylvania,
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SPEAKER_02: which is on the eastern end of Pennsylvania over near the Scranton area.
21:29
SPEAKER_02: And then they're up in New York tonight, Upper State New York up near Buffalo.
21:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
21:37
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, our good friend...
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SPEAKER_02: Mr. Stanton.
21:45
SPEAKER_02: Pat Stanton?
21:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Pat Stanton.
21:48
SPEAKER_02: He went to the Dawkins Show and Jim Thorpe last night.
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SPEAKER_02: And he says, hey,
21:55
SPEAKER_02: after the show,
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SPEAKER_02: Don and the rest of the band took the time to take some pictures with people
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SPEAKER_02: and autographs.
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SPEAKER_02: Don was cool, just hanging out, making small talk before they had to leave.
22:06
SPEAKER_02: As usual,
22:07
SPEAKER_02: the autograph seekers have to get too many things signed,
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SPEAKER_02: not considering his hands being paralyzed.
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SPEAKER_02: Don showed a lot of patience because multiple people had markers that didn't write
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SPEAKER_02: or didn't have their items ready.
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SPEAKER_02: Eventually, Don called it and says, we got to go.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: Have a good night.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: Good times again.
22:27
SPEAKER_02: Hail and kill.
22:28
SPEAKER_02: Hail and kill.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: So Pat Stanton went out and got to say hello to the docking boys in my absence.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, there you go.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: I was going to do that run this week,
22:41
SPEAKER_02: but my good friend Troy Patrick Farrell took the duties this week.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was on with me on Tuesday with the hair metal guru.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: And from Pittsburgh.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: He was in the hotel in Pittsburgh.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, I had heard he was out with the Dokken boys.
22:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I had several people saying, are you going to be at this show?
23:04
SPEAKER_02: Are you going to be at this show?
23:05
SPEAKER_02: Are you coming?
23:06
SPEAKER_00: They realize it's like 400 or 500 miles from you?
23:09
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, typically Don would fly me.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but still.
23:14
SPEAKER_00: Can't go to every show.
23:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:17
SPEAKER_02: I go when Don asked me to go with him, but Troy was doing this round, so obviously I didn't go.
23:24
SPEAKER_02: He didn't need me with him because Troy was with him.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: Right, sure.
23:28
SPEAKER_02: But that's cool.
23:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm glad people who did go out to the show were able to say hello and get
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SPEAKER_02: an autograph or whatever.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: But thanks for the little show review there, Pat.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: Glad he had a good time.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: I like hearing that people are out doing stuff.
23:47
SPEAKER_00: You know,
23:47
SPEAKER_00: it's funny because in the chat room right before we started,
23:51
SPEAKER_00: somebody's not coming in today.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: I forget who.
23:53
SPEAKER_00: I think it's J-Rad is out because he's out at seeing Vixen or something.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: And I think somebody, I think it was Fuego, was busting his balls.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, out at Vixen.
24:03
SPEAKER_00: What is that?
24:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, and it's like, dude, at least he's out.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: At least he's out doing something.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: Who cares?
24:08
SPEAKER_00: Who cares?
24:10
SPEAKER_00: And there's worse things you could do than go and see four hot chicks that rock.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Believe me,
24:17
SPEAKER_00: if you got to look at me and Neely's ugly asses
24:19
SPEAKER_00: or fucking Britt Lightning's gorgeous ass, I know which one I would choose.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: It wouldn't be me and you.
24:27
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
24:28
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if it's something you want to do and just go out and socialize a little bit
24:33
SPEAKER_02: and hang out with some other people of like mind, nothing wrong with that.
24:37
SPEAKER_02: Just go do it.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: Just go have some fun.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, might as well.
24:44
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, for me, it was like an hour, it was like 90-minute drive home last night.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: Right.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: That was no big deal.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: I got home, I don't know, the show was over at 11 and I got home like 1230.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: No, not at all.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, just surprised at how much traffic is still on the road at 1230 at night.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's like rush hour traffic at 1230 at night in the Chicagoland area.
25:13
SPEAKER_00: Chicago never stops, does it?
25:14
SPEAKER_02: It never stops.
25:15
SPEAKER_02: It's ridiculous the amount of cars and trucks out at that time of the night.
25:21
SPEAKER_02: It's a four-lane highway in one direction.
25:24
SPEAKER_02: It's eight-lane highway, and it's just packed like it's rush hour.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: LA's like that, too.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: LA is awful to When you're on the, what is that, the 1 or the 101 or whatever it is?
25:34
SPEAKER_02: No, it's the 405.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: 405, yeah, it's like, ugh, just brutal.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: Yep, yep.
25:42
SPEAKER_02: So, anyway, great show.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: If it's coming to a town near you, I would highly recommend going.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: If you can't go,
25:48
SPEAKER_02: go over to our Locals page because there's a montage of both KK's Priest and Wasp
25:55
SPEAKER_02: over there.
25:56
SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
25:57
SPEAKER_02: Chris did a great job just,
26:00
SPEAKER_02: you know, Seamlessly putting one little video into the next.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: Well, it wasn't very hard.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know,
26:07
SPEAKER_02: you've got all the little tricks and tools and know how to do all that shit,
26:11
SPEAKER_02: but it's good stuff.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I thought it came out pretty good.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: I didn't watch all of it.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: I only watched a little bit to make sure that the little X transitions look cool.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: But, you know,
26:20
SPEAKER_00: other than that,
26:21
SPEAKER_00: I watched like, I don't know, maybe two or three Ripper ones and two Wasp clips.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh, this looks like a good show.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: Now I'm glad I didn't watch it because now I'm going to go see it.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: So that's even better.
26:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:34
SPEAKER_02: Get your pumped and pre-show pump up.
26:37
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
26:38
SPEAKER_02: Got to go see this.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: Hell yes.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: And a busy week for me next week on shows.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Now I have Wasp on Thursday and I have Landau on Friday.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: That rocks.
26:49
SPEAKER_00: And then the next week I've got Florentine.
26:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm busy.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: And then the next week I got Triumph with you.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: Is it really that?
27:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's a little further away than that.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: Is it?
27:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
27:05
SPEAKER_00: Next week is the 16th and 17th.
27:08
SPEAKER_00: The next week would be 23rd, and then the next week would be the 1st.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it's not until the 24th.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: Oh, is it?
27:16
SPEAKER_00: I thought it, okay.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: It's the day before Thanksgiving.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: It's like the 23rd or something like that.
27:21
SPEAKER_00: I think I have something else November 1st then.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
27:27
SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm just going.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: Wherever I'm asked to go, I'm going.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: Wherever I may roam.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:37
SPEAKER_02: So aside from,
27:39
SPEAKER_02: you know,
27:39
SPEAKER_02: the shows last night or the show last night, you know, not much with me this week.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: Just watch some documentaries.
27:48
SPEAKER_02: I know you said you saw it, but I watched it's a three part documentary on Charles Manson.
27:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: The Manson tapes or whatever.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:58
SPEAKER_02: You know,
27:58
SPEAKER_02: they basically talk to people who were in the Manson family and talk to
28:05
SPEAKER_02: the investigators who investigated the the tape murders.
28:10
SPEAKER_02: And what was how do you say that?
28:12
SPEAKER_02: LaBianco murders or something?
28:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: The LaBianco murders.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: They talked about,
28:17
SPEAKER_02: you know,
28:18
SPEAKER_02: that they didn't know who did it and they didn't know who they were looking for.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: And.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: It's really good.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's very interesting from the perspective of people who were actually there
28:28
SPEAKER_02: and had some involvement or contact with that time.
28:35
SPEAKER_02: And the late 60s were a really strange time in this country.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: Obviously,
28:41
SPEAKER_02: the Vietnam War was raging and there was a change in the cultural status with
28:48
SPEAKER_02: the hippie movement and...
28:51
SPEAKER_02: Obviously,
28:52
SPEAKER_02: they talked about the free love movement and the summer of love and the change
28:57
SPEAKER_02: of music.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
28:59
SPEAKER_02: it was just kind of a real changing time in the late 60s into the early 70s,
29:06
SPEAKER_02: you know.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: Right.
29:07
SPEAKER_02: And then, of course, this, you know, these Manson murders took place, you know, in Los Angeles.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, people were very.
29:15
SPEAKER_02: Shaken up by it,
29:16
SPEAKER_02: especially the celebrity types that made their living or lived in Los Angeles
29:23
SPEAKER_02: because nobody knew what this was all about.
29:27
SPEAKER_02: And so if you like documentaries like that, it's on Netflix.
29:31
SPEAKER_02: It's a three-part documentary.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: It's brand new.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: It's a 2026 documentary.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: And it talks to a lot of people who, like I said, were there.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: And then, of course, historians who Did their research and kind of tell the real story.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: There was some stuff about that I didn't even know.
29:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, you just kind of know the peripheral stuff.
29:54
SPEAKER_02: But I learned a few things from that.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: I was just like, oh, I had no idea.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, that story has been told so many times that most of the details have been left away.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
30:05
SPEAKER_00: You just sort of now get the whole...
30:09
SPEAKER_00: Manson had the cult and then he convinced Tex to go kill these people and
30:14
SPEAKER_00: the girls went with him and then, you know, he had to show them how to do it.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: The end.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's kind of the whole story that we know.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: And then when you watch something like that, you learn a whole bunch.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know Charlie Manson shot a drug dealer.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
30:32
SPEAKER_02: They basically, you know, stole his money and then he shot him.
30:37
SPEAKER_02: He shot him in the stomach and he thought he was part of the Black Panthers.
30:41
SPEAKER_02: And so they were hanging out at that spawn ranch and for protection,
30:46
SPEAKER_02: Manson invited a motorcycle gang to live at the spawn ranch with them as protection
30:53
SPEAKER_02: because he thought the Black Panthers were going to come after him as retribution
30:57
SPEAKER_02: for that murder.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: Right.
30:59
SPEAKER_02: I had no idea about that.
31:00
SPEAKER_02: Never heard about that.
31:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's one of those,
31:04
SPEAKER_00: like I said, it's one of those, you start losing the pieces as time goes by.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: There was a lot to it.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: And what led up to the places that,
31:13
SPEAKER_02: you know,
31:14
SPEAKER_02: the events that took place rather,
31:17
SPEAKER_02: you know,
31:17
SPEAKER_02: you just,
31:18
SPEAKER_02: the only thing you ever heard was that Manson directed his followers
31:23
SPEAKER_02: to commit these Tate murders to try to spawn a race war.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
31:29
SPEAKER_02: And that's all you heard.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: But you never heard about what led up to that.
31:34
SPEAKER_00: No, not at all.
31:35
SPEAKER_02: You know, so this tells the whole story.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: So if you like that kind of stuff and history and, you know, it's pretty wild.
31:42
SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
31:43
SPEAKER_02: to hear Manson's own words talk about what he did and why he did what he did
31:50
SPEAKER_02: and his beliefs.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
31:53
SPEAKER_02: obviously,
31:55
SPEAKER_02: if you know anything about this,
31:57
SPEAKER_02: He had an association with Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys and how basically Manson
32:04
SPEAKER_02: and his followers just kind of moved into Dennis' house.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: They just moved in.
32:09
SPEAKER_00: They just said, oh, we're here now.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: And apparently, you know, Dennis didn't own the house.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: I guess he leased the house.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
32:17
SPEAKER_02: And he just basically up and left the house when his lease was up and just said,
32:23
SPEAKER_02: you know, I'm out of here.
32:24
SPEAKER_02: See ya.
32:24
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: And they show back up and the landlord of the house is like, who are you people?
32:30
SPEAKER_02: What are you doing here?
32:31
SPEAKER_02: Why are we just hanging out?
32:32
SPEAKER_02: It's like, you got to leave.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: It's funny.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: Couldn't do that these days.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, these days they would have ended up owning the house.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Squatter's rights, they would have got it.
32:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they would have just squatted and said, this is our house now.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: Well, they kind of did.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they were the original squatters.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they had that to their list.
32:50
SPEAKER_02: They could have been, but Dennis was like, yeah.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, Dennis's manager was basically said, you've got to distance yourself from these people.
32:59
SPEAKER_02: Let's get the fuck out of here.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no kidding.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: You know, so it's just pretty crazy.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: But that's about the sum of my week aside from the normal fare.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: Right.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: So what's going on over there in the Aiken IT world?
33:16
SPEAKER_02: Busy week.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Very busy.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: I spent the bulk of the work week building my new team of bots to do work for me.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: I literally have just dove all the way in on this stuff.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: So now I have,
33:33
SPEAKER_00: you know,
33:34
SPEAKER_00: bots that are doing 4 million things for me for Pinball PA.
33:37
SPEAKER_00: And I have bots that are doing things for me for the CMS and,
33:42
SPEAKER_00: you know, all kinds of shit.
33:43
SPEAKER_00: I just have,
33:44
SPEAKER_00: you know,
33:45
SPEAKER_00: my virtual recs put the contest together that we'll talk about here at some point.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, I really didn't do much except told it what I wanted and it went.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: But I was doing that.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: I did four interviews this week.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: As far as this show goes,
34:03
SPEAKER_00: I think the only one that most of the fans
34:05
SPEAKER_00: of this show will like is probably Mystic Prophecy.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: I talked with R.D.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: Leopakis.
34:14
SPEAKER_00: He's the singer of Mystic Prophecy.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: He was a good chat.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: I talked to the original guitar player from Godsmack.
34:23
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember who else I talked to, but I talked to other people too.
34:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Craig Lucicero of Forbidden.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: I talked to him.
34:30
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember the fourth.
34:33
SPEAKER_00: Somebody else.
34:35
SPEAKER_00: So I did those.
34:38
SPEAKER_00: I was on the Hair Metal Guru on Tuesday, shaking up his world a little.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they weren't quite ready for my flame.
34:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
34:47
SPEAKER_00: I shouldn't say that.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: I would say half of his audience wasn't ready for my flamethrower mouth.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: The other half loved it.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: I saw both in their chat room as I was on.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: I saw a lot of, fuck this asshole.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: And I also saw a lot of...
35:06
SPEAKER_00: I love that he just says what he thinks.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I don't know if that's good or bad.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: I, you know, I guess that's okay is, you know, at least it wasn't, wasn't the typical Jackal Z.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: It was none of that because I was dropping some bombs, but whatever, you know, it was fun.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: It was very, I appreciate very much Anthony inviting me on.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: And like I said, Troy was on right before me.
35:29
SPEAKER_00: So it was kind of, you know, it was cool to Kind of co-do a show with Anthony and Troy.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, I thought it was fun.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: Look at Brian in the chat room.
35:41
SPEAKER_00: Chris brought the truth and honesty to the guru show.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't holding back, that's for sure.
35:50
SPEAKER_02: You have no reason to hold back.
35:52
SPEAKER_00: I don't.
35:53
SPEAKER_00: You know,
35:54
SPEAKER_00: it's funny because,
35:55
SPEAKER_00: you know, and we don't need to get into the whole John Tora thing because whatever.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: If you want to know what happened there,
36:02
SPEAKER_00: you can look on the social media because we have absolutely exploded with that shit.
36:09
SPEAKER_00: And we've talked about it to death.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: There's really no need to rehash it anymore.
36:14
SPEAKER_00: But I don't even remember where I was going with this.
36:17
SPEAKER_02: About hair metal guru and bringing the truth.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:21
SPEAKER_00: They just...
36:23
SPEAKER_00: You know, Anthony and Stevie are two of the main reasons that this whole thing blew up.
36:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, the whole thing with Torah blew up.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
36:33
SPEAKER_00: I think I was the first one on their airwave, their show, to actually question it.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: You know,
36:40
SPEAKER_00: so that,
36:40
SPEAKER_00: you know,
36:42
SPEAKER_00: that took a lot of people that were in the rah-rah section and just hated my guts
36:45
SPEAKER_00: for it.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: But it is what it is, you know.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to.
36:52
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to worry about it.
36:54
SPEAKER_00: That was last week's show.
36:58
SPEAKER_00: And now we're on to this week's show.
37:01
SPEAKER_00: But it was fun.
37:02
SPEAKER_00: And I very much, I do want to say thanks to Anthony for having me on.
37:05
SPEAKER_00: It was very, very cool of him.
37:07
SPEAKER_00: He knows my reputation.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: I gave him exactly what he knows of my reputation.
37:11
SPEAKER_00: And he didn't seem to flinch.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: So that was fine.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: Well, again,
37:16
SPEAKER_02: if Anthony isn't aware of what you do and he invites you on the show, shame on him.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's aware.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, I know.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
37:25
SPEAKER_02: If he wasn't and then he invited you on the show and he was actually surprised
37:30
SPEAKER_02: by your viewpoints or your take, it would be shame on him.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: Dude, what was funny was I cannot tell you the number of name people,
37:42
SPEAKER_00: and I won't say who they are because it's There's a reason
37:44
SPEAKER_00: that they did it this way.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: Hit me up, you know, on text or on messenger or whatnot.
37:52
SPEAKER_00: And, um,
37:53
SPEAKER_00: and we're like,
37:54
SPEAKER_00: agree with you fully,
37:56
SPEAKER_00: you know, and, and they're guys that are in the business and actually out there.
38:01
SPEAKER_00: And, and obviously if they said it publicly,
38:03
SPEAKER_00: it could cause them problems with gigs and money and blah, blah, blah.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: So, but I, dude, it was,
38:10
SPEAKER_00: I heard from more people that are quote unquote famous and than I have heard from in
38:16
SPEAKER_00: a year, honestly.
38:19
SPEAKER_00: And I heard from a couple, more than a couple, that were the other way.
38:24
SPEAKER_00: They're like, dude, you've been awful hard on this kid.
38:27
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, well, I'm happy to be wrong.
38:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
38:32
SPEAKER_00: but it's your opinion.
38:33
SPEAKER_02: It is my opinion.
38:35
SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't make it right, doesn't make it wrong.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: It's just that's your opinion.
38:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: You're allowed to have your thoughts on things regardless if it agrees
38:44
SPEAKER_02: with other people's viewpoint.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if this kid is the reason that Quiet Riot returns to the top of the charts,
38:52
SPEAKER_00: as I've heard several times.
38:54
SPEAKER_00: What are the charts?
38:56
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
38:56
SPEAKER_00: There's no such thing as a chart anymore.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: The funniest quote I heard was literally right before,
39:02
SPEAKER_00: or not heard,
39:03
SPEAKER_00: but saw,
39:03
SPEAKER_00: was right before the show on our Facebook,
39:06
SPEAKER_00: somebody put that This kid is going to bring back the genre of hair metal.
39:16
SPEAKER_00: What?
39:18
SPEAKER_00: It's like, son, that genre is gone.
39:21
SPEAKER_00: It is on fumes.
39:24
SPEAKER_00: Doesn't mean we don't like those songs, but bring back the genre?
39:29
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
39:31
SPEAKER_00: But yeah,
39:31
SPEAKER_00: and again,
39:32
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to get into that whole thing yet again for a third straight week.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: But all I'm saying is it was great of Anthony to have me on.
39:40
SPEAKER_00: I very much appreciated it.
39:43
SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
39:43
SPEAKER_00: it was great to,
39:45
SPEAKER_00: for better or for worse, it was great to reach a new audience for a little while.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
39:49
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah.
39:53
SPEAKER_00: None other than that, not much, dude.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: I even worked.
39:56
SPEAKER_00: Watch a lot of horror movies.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: I'm continuing my...
39:59
SPEAKER_00: My thing of horror movies from the 80s.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: And I got to tell you, man, I don't remember if I told you this last week or this week.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember when I watched it,
40:08
SPEAKER_00: but I've really sunk in deep on the 80s ones, just the 80s ones.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: Hellraiser, Michael Myers, Friday the 13th, Halloween, Freddy Krueger, those movies.
40:26
SPEAKER_00: First and foremost, the Freddy Krueger movies are head and shoulders above everything else.
40:33
SPEAKER_00: They're just so much better than all the rest of them.
40:37
SPEAKER_00: But the one that really, really burned my ass was because I just forgot.
40:46
SPEAKER_00: Hellraiser was terrible.
40:48
SPEAKER_00: Hellraiser 1.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: Did you ever see that movie?
40:50
SPEAKER_00: The Pinface Guy?
40:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: That movie sucks.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:55
SPEAKER_00: I didn't really, honestly, I didn't remember what it was even about.
40:58
SPEAKER_00: I just knew it was something with that fucking box.
41:02
SPEAKER_00: You know,
41:02
SPEAKER_00: it was something with that box and if you had the box or something like that,
41:07
SPEAKER_00: you know, you had some sort of weird power or something.
41:10
SPEAKER_00: I just didn't remember what it was about.
41:12
SPEAKER_00: Hellraiser 1, I'm watching it and the acting is so bad.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: And the whole premise of it's a guy,
41:20
SPEAKER_00: hope I'm not spoiling this for anybody 45 years later, but...
41:24
SPEAKER_00: You know,
41:25
SPEAKER_00: it's a guy and he's dead,
41:29
SPEAKER_00: but the ex-girlfriend can bring him back if she lures other guys and kills him.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: And he gains little bits of his skin and his muscle and stuff.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: It was so dumb.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm watching the whole damn thing and I'm like, I know I used to love this movie.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: I really did.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: I...
41:48
SPEAKER_00: In the day, I know I've watched it 20 times back in the 80s because I know I owned it.
41:55
SPEAKER_00: I actually owned it on a VHS tape at one point.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: So I watched it a shitload and I just forgot about it.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: And then when I started watching it, I was like, this is really not very good.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: But yeah,
42:09
SPEAKER_00: then I watched,
42:10
SPEAKER_00: I think I watched five of the Freddy's this week and man, that's a good series.
42:15
SPEAKER_00: Even later when they ran out of Ran out of shit and just were finding new ways to kill people.
42:21
SPEAKER_00: You know,
42:21
SPEAKER_00: like I think it was the dream child where the kid's on the motorcycle and
42:27
SPEAKER_00: the motorcycle turns into Freddy and hooks him to the bike and shit.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: I was like, yeah, I like this.
42:33
SPEAKER_00: It's stupid, but it's great.
42:35
SPEAKER_02: I like that the beginning when the baby is being born and it basically jumps off
42:40
SPEAKER_02: the table and scrambles away.
42:43
SPEAKER_00: Right.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:47
SPEAKER_02: I saw that in the theater and it was just like, whoa.
42:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: It was one of those jump scares, you know.
42:54
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
42:55
SPEAKER_02: You just weren't expecting that,
42:56
SPEAKER_02: especially on the huge screen, you know, you're just watching that and it's, oh.
43:01
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know,
43:02
SPEAKER_00: what's interesting about those Freddy movies too is you can tell
43:06
SPEAKER_00: that Freddy 1 was done on a budget.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: You could tell that that was really not well financed.
43:12
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: But you could tell it was a huge hit, so Freddy 2 had a lot more money.
43:18
SPEAKER_00: Right.
43:18
SPEAKER_00: But I love how they kept it just as campy.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: You could tell that they had more money,
43:24
SPEAKER_00: like the shots were better and the makeup was a little bit better,
43:28
SPEAKER_00: but it was still a cheeseball movie.
43:31
SPEAKER_00: And I love that.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: I love that it was still very cheesy.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a good one, Demon.
43:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to put that one down right now.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: Altered States.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: I like that.
43:41
SPEAKER_02: I like when that dog takes a piss and he pisses out fire and rips the ground open with his piss.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: So good.
43:51
SPEAKER_00: The Freddy movies are great, man.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: They really are.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: They're dumb, but they're great.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, too good.
44:01
SPEAKER_02: I like the guy who ends up inside of his waterbed.
44:05
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: Sucked down, the blood goes shooting up into the roof and stuff.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: The mom comes in and is like, hmm, what's going on here?
44:14
SPEAKER_00: That's the funniest part.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: The mom opens the door and she's like, hmm, interesting.
44:19
SPEAKER_00: She's not freaking the fuck out.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: Where's my son in this pool of blood?
44:24
SPEAKER_00: She's like, hmm, what is this?
44:26
SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
44:28
SPEAKER_00: That was so stupid.
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45:19
SPEAKER_02: I got the whole DVD series right over here on my shelf.
45:23
SPEAKER_02: I had to pull that out and just go sit there and just watch it from one to the end.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: Dude, it is fun.
45:29
SPEAKER_00: I'll be honest, the only one that's not good is the remake that they did.
45:35
SPEAKER_00: The remake was just, it was a little too dark.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: It was a little too close to what they do now.
45:41
SPEAKER_00: It's just all gore.
45:43
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't funny at all.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: To me, that's the appeal of Freddy Krueger.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because it's a scary movie, but yet it's ridiculous at the same time.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and some of his lines are fantastic.
45:58
SPEAKER_00: His one-liners are great.
46:01
SPEAKER_00: It's like the precursor to fucking CSI Miami.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: You ever watch that show, CSI Miami, with David Caruso?
46:11
SPEAKER_02: I know of it.
46:12
SPEAKER_02: I never watched it, though.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, every time David Caruso goes to say something important,
46:18
SPEAKER_00: they get him at an angle with a head turn and stuff like that.
46:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, so it's like a big shocking thing.
46:22
SPEAKER_00: He'll be like, I guess we'll have to look in the ocean.
46:28
SPEAKER_00: Daniel!
46:30
SPEAKER_02: ONA did a whole bunch of those.
46:34
SPEAKER_02: They did a whole, they had a whole, like a whole cavalcade of those.
46:38
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, well, it looks like this guy.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: Time caught up with him too soon.
46:43
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: That's what they do.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: They do it.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: But Freddy Krueger does the same thing.
46:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking that Freddy was the inspiration for that because every single one of
46:52
SPEAKER_00: the kills,
46:52
SPEAKER_00: like in Dream Warriors,
46:55
SPEAKER_00: when he picks up the girl and slams her to the TV,
46:59
SPEAKER_00: he goes, welcome to prime time, bitch.
47:09
SPEAKER_02: It's so funny, man.
47:13
SPEAKER_02: I went to,
47:14
SPEAKER_02: I went to probably,
47:15
SPEAKER_02: I think I saw the first four in the theater,
47:19
SPEAKER_02: you know,
47:21
SPEAKER_02: so that's,
47:22
SPEAKER_02: you know,
47:23
SPEAKER_02: I was a fan of the Nightmare on Elm Street series,
47:26
SPEAKER_02: and, you know, when the new ones came out, I would go see it, so.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think I saw the first, now I'm thinking, when was three, 86, 87?
47:35
SPEAKER_00: No, it was 87.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: 87?
47:38
SPEAKER_00: So I would have had to see it.
47:39
SPEAKER_02: Because that was back for the attack.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: I think I saw 1, 2, and 4 in the theaters.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: Because what's funny is I took the now X to Nightmare on Elm Street 4 in Korea.
47:56
SPEAKER_00: So I know where I saw that one.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: And you've met her.
48:00
SPEAKER_00: Thinking of her in a horror movie, you know that didn't go well.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: That was a bad play on my part.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it just was, I don't know, I saw three of them in a theater.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: I mean, dude, when I was a kid, especially growing up, that's what we did.
48:18
SPEAKER_00: Every Friday, it didn't even matter what the movie was.
48:21
SPEAKER_00: As long as it was a movie that all of us could get into,
48:23
SPEAKER_00: and it was like $2 or something to go to the movies.
48:26
SPEAKER_00: It was dirt cheap.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: We used to always go right to where the Kent Stage is now.
48:31
SPEAKER_00: It used to be the movie theater.
48:33
SPEAKER_00: And we would go there every single Friday.
48:36
SPEAKER_00: And that was what we did on Friday night.
48:37
SPEAKER_00: Friday night at 8 o'clock, you saw a movie.
48:41
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
48:41
SPEAKER_00: I miss those days.
48:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, that's,
48:44
SPEAKER_02: you know, when people used to be a little more community, you know, communal rather.
48:49
SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
48:50
SPEAKER_02: it was a plan to get together on a Friday and go do something,
48:54
SPEAKER_02: you know,
48:55
SPEAKER_02: go to a concert or go to a movie or go to some event or,
48:59
SPEAKER_02: you know, meet up somewhere.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: I miss those days.
49:03
SPEAKER_00: Now it's, now it's all right.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to watch this.
49:05
SPEAKER_00: You watch it too.
49:06
SPEAKER_00: And let's text back and forth.
49:09
SPEAKER_00: That's what I end up doing half the time.
49:11
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
49:13
SPEAKER_02: You kind of miss the good old days.
49:15
SPEAKER_00: I do.
49:16
SPEAKER_00: And like, you know, I've been trying to figure out why I just can't get into football this year.
49:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm just not into it at all.
49:23
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's why it's like,
49:24
SPEAKER_00: even when I'm watching games now,
49:26
SPEAKER_00: like I'll watch a game like tomorrow,
49:28
SPEAKER_00: the Browns will be on tomorrow and I'll, I'll be working on the CMS.
49:31
SPEAKER_00: So I'll, I'll have it on when the Browns are on tomorrow.
49:35
SPEAKER_00: And I guarantee you, all day long, I'll be texting back and forth with John.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: John will be texting, did you see that fucking play?
49:42
SPEAKER_00: Or did you see that penalty?
49:43
SPEAKER_00: And I'll be like, yeah, that sucks.
49:45
SPEAKER_00: And I'll throw my phone back there.
49:47
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, that's adequate fun, I guess.
49:50
SPEAKER_00: But it's certainly not as fun as actually getting together in a bar and doing
49:55
SPEAKER_00: a shot every time they throw an interception or something like that.
50:00
SPEAKER_00: I miss doing that shit a lot.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: You know,
50:03
SPEAKER_00: I need to find some local people here so I don't have to drive 100 miles to,
50:08
SPEAKER_00: you know,
50:08
SPEAKER_00: especially if I get a head full of alcohol and then I got to drive 100 miles home.
50:14
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
50:15
SPEAKER_00: You know, I wouldn't mind it if it was like at Sassy's or something.
50:18
SPEAKER_00: I would love to go and watch football at Sassy's, but I just don't know anybody.
50:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't know anybody in Twinsburg.
50:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, that goes back to that discussion we had at the first hour of the show last week.
50:30
SPEAKER_02: It's like, well, where do you go?
50:31
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's... And especially if you're not a townie.
50:39
SPEAKER_00: Like, I know even when I go to the bars here in town,
50:43
SPEAKER_00: I see the quote-unquote townies, and I'm like, I don't want to be those people.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: You know,
50:48
SPEAKER_00: I see them,
50:48
SPEAKER_00: and they're all beating up,
50:49
SPEAKER_00: and they all hate their fucking wife and their job and everything else,
50:53
SPEAKER_00: and they're just sitting there bitching and moaning about their life
50:56
SPEAKER_00: while they suck down, you know, 40-ouncers or whatever, and it's like...
51:02
SPEAKER_00: I really don't want to be one of those people.
51:05
SPEAKER_00: Not especially.
51:08
SPEAKER_00: Chris better be getting ready for the Indians World Series.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: I don't watch the Cleveland team.
51:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm a Padres fan.
51:16
SPEAKER_00: And I ain't even watching baseball this year.
51:17
SPEAKER_00: I don't even care.
51:18
SPEAKER_00: I know the Padres were.
51:19
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they still are, but they were in the playoffs.
51:22
SPEAKER_00: I haven't watched.
51:23
SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
51:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm done.
51:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't think I'm into sports anymore.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: As weird as that sounds, I just don't think I'm...
51:30
SPEAKER_02: You know my thoughts on sports.
51:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:35
SPEAKER_02: The whole social justice bullshit that they chose to adopt
51:40
SPEAKER_02: into their programming ruined it for me.
51:46
SPEAKER_00: That's a part of it for me.
51:48
SPEAKER_00: Truthfully, I just don't think the games are as good.
51:51
SPEAKER_00: I don't think the gameplay is as good.
51:52
SPEAKER_00: I don't like the new rules.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't like that every time anybody blows wind at a fucking quarterback,
51:59
SPEAKER_00: they throw a penalty at them for too tough of a hit or whatever.
52:06
SPEAKER_00: It's just not the game I grew up on.
52:08
SPEAKER_00: I liked when it was near murder every single play.
52:12
SPEAKER_00: That's the football I liked.
52:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
52:16
SPEAKER_00: All right.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Scooby.
52:18
SPEAKER_00: Brewers beat the Padres.
52:20
SPEAKER_00: I didn't even know.
52:21
SPEAKER_00: I had no idea.
52:23
SPEAKER_02: But anyway.
52:25
SPEAKER_02: Neither did you care.
52:26
SPEAKER_00: Huh?
52:27
SPEAKER_02: Neither did you care.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: No, I really didn't.
52:29
SPEAKER_00: I really didn't.
52:30
SPEAKER_00: If I cared, you would have seen me every week with that Padres hat on.
52:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my team's in the playoffs.
52:36
SPEAKER_00: My team.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: My team's in the playoffs, baby.
52:40
SPEAKER_02: I was down there coaching them and giving my thoughts on the strategy in
52:45
SPEAKER_02: the playoffs and I know sons of bitches
52:49
SPEAKER_00: didn't listen.
52:52
SPEAKER_00: I told them to pinch hit right there and they didn't do it.
52:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
52:56
SPEAKER_02: Sons of bitches.
52:58
SPEAKER_02: Had they listened to me, they would have furthered themselves along.
53:02
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
53:05
SPEAKER_02: That's the other thing.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: I've never had a lot of camaraderie with hardcore sports fans.
53:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
53:13
SPEAKER_02: Because I just could never get into discussing...
53:18
SPEAKER_02: They should have done this and they should have done that.
53:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a coach.
53:27
SPEAKER_02: You don't know what they know on the sideline.
53:33
SPEAKER_02: That's why they call it armchair quarterback.
53:36
SPEAKER_02: If you want to sit there and armchair quarterback.
53:37
SPEAKER_02: But I just could never do that.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: Did you see that play?
53:41
SPEAKER_02: If they had just... Do you really know that to be the case?
53:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you don't know anything.
53:48
SPEAKER_00: If they would have done what you think, it would have been even worse.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: So stop it.
53:52
SPEAKER_02: It would have been a complete disaster.
53:53
SPEAKER_00: Think of it this way.
53:54
SPEAKER_00: The reason you're sitting on the couch calling that play is because you stink at it.
54:00
SPEAKER_00: So really, if you would have called that play, it would have been a disaster.
54:04
SPEAKER_00: It would have been 99% of the time when people say that shit, it's exactly what...
54:09
SPEAKER_00: What they would do in like Madden or something.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, I love listening to the armchair quarterback people, like regular people at the bar.
54:18
SPEAKER_00: And they're like, it'll be first down and, you know, at like the six yard line or something.
54:23
SPEAKER_00: They're like, throw the bomb.
54:25
SPEAKER_00: It's like, you don't throw the bomb at the six yard line.
54:28
SPEAKER_00: Because if they pick it off, then they're already in field goal range.
54:31
SPEAKER_00: You dumb shit.
54:33
SPEAKER_00: But they don't know.
54:34
SPEAKER_00: They're just like, well, that's what I did in Madden, and I scored 92 points.
54:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a video game.
54:40
SPEAKER_00: No, that's real.
54:42
SPEAKER_00: That's training.
54:43
SPEAKER_00: That's how the football players train.
54:45
SPEAKER_00: Is that how it works?
54:46
SPEAKER_00: It must be.
54:47
SPEAKER_02: All right.
54:49
SPEAKER_02: All right.
54:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there was a time when I did enjoy watching football on Sunday and stuff,
54:56
SPEAKER_02: but I think this is about the sixth year that I haven't watched any football at all.
55:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm done.
55:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm still trying to watch it, but I'm just not into it.
55:06
SPEAKER_00: Like Thursday night, I don't remember who the teams were.
55:10
SPEAKER_00: I turned it on and I watched for maybe 10 minutes.
55:16
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, fuck this.
55:18
SPEAKER_00: This is boring.
55:19
SPEAKER_00: And I went right to another horror movie.
55:21
SPEAKER_00: I was like, I'm out.
55:24
SPEAKER_00: I was like, let's go with the Dream Master, Freddy Krueger 5.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: Right.
55:30
SPEAKER_00: That was better.
55:31
SPEAKER_00: That was more interesting.
55:34
SPEAKER_00: Much more gooder.
55:35
SPEAKER_00: Much more gooder, exactly.
55:37
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
55:39
SPEAKER_02: All right.
55:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think that's going to wrap up an hour's worth of show already.
55:43
SPEAKER_02: All right.
55:44
SPEAKER_02: It sure flies by quickly.
55:46
SPEAKER_02: Sure does.
55:47
SPEAKER_02: All right.
55:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, as usual,
55:49
SPEAKER_02: I will be playing your tunes that you,
55:53
SPEAKER_02: the locals, supporters have put into the old FastPass.
55:57
SPEAKER_02: A lot of folks check it in this week as usual.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate all the recommendations for songs in there.
56:04
SPEAKER_02: I'll try to get to all of them if possible.
56:08
SPEAKER_02: And anyway, there's a lot of heavier stuff in there, which I think you're going to like, Chris.
56:12
SPEAKER_02: I like that.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: And there's some, you know, what do you want to call classic metal stuff in there.
56:18
SPEAKER_02: And so I will play the tunes from the Fast Pass in there.
56:23
SPEAKER_02: Appreciate everybody who supports the show through your Fast Pass.
56:26
SPEAKER_02: And And if you want to join us and get a request in on a Saturday,
56:33
SPEAKER_02: just go to classicmetalshow.locals.com.
56:36
SPEAKER_02: Sign up.
56:36
SPEAKER_02: It's five bucks a month.
56:38
SPEAKER_02: Very easy.
56:39
SPEAKER_02: A lot of perks there.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: A lot of things.
56:42
SPEAKER_02: And plus,
56:43
SPEAKER_02: if you request a song for weekends on a Saturday,
56:48
SPEAKER_02: it's a buck and a quarter a play, which is less than what you pay at a jukebox.
56:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's great.
56:53
SPEAKER_00: Touch tunes.
56:54
SPEAKER_00: It's way less than touch tunes.
56:56
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
56:57
SPEAKER_02: So if you go to a bar and you play some tunes at a jukebox, it's cheaper than that.
57:02
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
57:03
SPEAKER_02: And you get a shout out too.
57:05
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
57:06
SPEAKER_02: Don't get that with touch tunes.
57:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:08
SPEAKER_02: The jukebox doesn't shout your name out.
57:10
SPEAKER_02: This is for John.
57:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:14
Right.
57:16
SPEAKER_02: All right.
57:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, as always, I'll let you lead off the charge.
57:19
SPEAKER_02: So what should we play?
57:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, since you said heavy, you're going to change up.
57:23
SPEAKER_00: I had something lighter, but now we're going to go heavy.
57:26
SPEAKER_00: Hellhammer is the band.
57:28
SPEAKER_00: Triumph of Death is the song from their Apocalyptic Raids release.
57:36
SPEAKER_00: There it is.
57:38
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
57:39
SPEAKER_02: All right.
57:39
SPEAKER_02: We will play the Hellhammer Triumph of Death to lead off the charge.
57:45
SPEAKER_02: So let's get into it.
57:47
SPEAKER_02: Here it is.
57:47
SPEAKER_02: It's Hellhammer exclusively here.
57:49
SPEAKER_02: On your classic metal show.
57:51
[music]
58:04
SPEAKER_01: Yo, Metalheads, what the hell are you waiting for?
58:06
SPEAKER_01: Metallica's and Justice For All just dropped and remastered 2LP Vinyl Glory, and it is crushing.
58:11
SPEAKER_01: Blackened, One,
58:13
SPEAKER_01: Harvester of Sorrow,
58:14
SPEAKER_01: those riffs hit harder than a freight train,
58:17
SPEAKER_01: and the drums will straight up cave your chest in.
58:19
SPEAKER_01: This is the album that defined thrash.
58:22
SPEAKER_01: And now it sounds meaner, louder, and heavier than ever.
58:27
SPEAKER_01: If you call yourself a Metallica fan, then you need to own this.
58:30
SPEAKER_01: Smash the link at the bottom of the screen right now and grab your copy before it's gone.
58:34
SPEAKER_01: What's up?
58:35
SPEAKER_00: This is Lee Richards and you are watching CMS TV.
58:54
SPEAKER_02: From the No Place for Disgrace release,
58:58
SPEAKER_02: that is Flotsam and Jetsam right there with the title track from that CD.
59:03
SPEAKER_02: That one going up, I requested Demolich, just before that Dark Tranquility, The Lesser...
59:09
SPEAKER_02: The Lesser Faith for Chuck from North Carolina.
59:13
SPEAKER_02: Pantera in there with Hellbound for Johnny Castle.
59:17
SPEAKER_02: Slayer in there with Last Christmas Angel of Death.
59:21
SPEAKER_02: Kind of fucking with the chat room tonight.
59:23
SPEAKER_02: Immobilizer94.
59:26
SPEAKER_02: Aman Amarth, We Rule the Waves for TMF Frank and kicking off that block.
59:32
SPEAKER_02: Hellhammer with Triumph of Death for Chris.
59:36
SPEAKER_00: Right on.
59:37
SPEAKER_02: That was a heavy-ass block.
59:38
SPEAKER_02: I like it.
59:39
SPEAKER_02: That was a heavy block for the people who like the heavier stuff.
59:43
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
59:44
SPEAKER_03: Good stuff.
59:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:46
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, we're into the second segment of the Mighty Classic Metal Show.
59:52
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
59:53
SPEAKER_00: I got to ask you this, dude, before we get into music or whatever.
59:59
SPEAKER_00: Not for everything, but just kind of in general.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_00: This is more of a general question because I know the obvious is yes to some things,
1:00:09
SPEAKER_00: but I'm not talking about,
1:00:12
SPEAKER_00: well, let me just ask the question and you'll figure it out.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_00: I bought something this week without really looking at who made it.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_00: I'll show it in a minute.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_00: Outside of the very,
1:00:25
SPEAKER_00: very obvious stuff,
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: for the most part,
1:00:28
SPEAKER_00: when you buy something, do you always look at the At the manufacturer?
1:00:35
SPEAKER_00: Or do you buy stuff a lot of the times?
1:00:39
SPEAKER_00: Just, I need a, you know, I don't know, I don't know, I need a shirt.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_00: Or I need a pair of shoes.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_00: Or I need a, you know, a kitchen knife.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: Do you go out of your way to look for a brand name?
1:00:56
SPEAKER_00: Or are you comfortable with, well,
1:00:58
SPEAKER_00: I need a set of kitchen knives,
1:00:59
SPEAKER_00: I'll just grab whatever, because it really doesn't matter.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't, for brand name stuff, I'm not, I'm not a brand name snob kind of guy.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm not really,
1:01:14
SPEAKER_02: really into that because there's,
1:01:17
SPEAKER_02: with the marketplace being what it is via like Amazon or something like that,
1:01:23
SPEAKER_02: you can get stuff that you never even knew existed from other manufacturers.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_02: And typically if I'm buying something that,
1:01:31
SPEAKER_02: that, I don't have a, what do you want to call, a reputation record to rely on.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_02: Like, say, let's just go with, say, hand tools.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_02: There's guys out there who they won't buy anything but Snap-on.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_02: Or they buy Cornwell or they buy,
1:01:53
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:01:54
SPEAKER_02: obviously back in the day,
1:01:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know if they're in existence anymore, Craftsman.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_02: Remember Craftsman used to be the tool.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_00: I think they still make toolboxes.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_00: I still see a shitload of those red Craftsman toolboxes
1:02:07
SPEAKER_02: around.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_02: I think Ace Hardware now carries the Craftsman brand since Sears is no longer.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_02: But anyway,
1:02:15
SPEAKER_02: regardless of that,
1:02:17
SPEAKER_02: Something like that, I would probably be a little more picky on names.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_00: You wouldn't just go into the hardware store.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_00: If there was a Craftsman set of ratchets for $25,
1:02:30
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what they even cost,
1:02:32
SPEAKER_00: but then there was a generic brand or whatever brand,
1:02:37
SPEAKER_00: something in Japanese brand for $9.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_00: Same exact ratchet, same measurement, same everything.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_00: Would you buy the $25 ones because it's Craftsman?
1:02:47
SPEAKER_00: Or would you buy the $9 because, look, I just got to fucking get a bolt off of a widget.
1:02:53
SPEAKER_02: Well,
1:02:54
SPEAKER_02: if I wasn't concerned about longevity or anything and I needed something in a pinch,
1:03:02
SPEAKER_02: maybe I would go with the cheaper one just if it was in a pinch.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_02: But if I knew that it was just going to be a part of my set, I would buy the more expensive one.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_02: But now something I have no...
1:03:17
SPEAKER_02: No, you know, what do you want to history with
1:03:21
SPEAKER_02: as far as like you've mentioned kitchen knives.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't know what a good set of kitchen knives are.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_02: So if I were going to go buy them, then I would start reading reviews.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you would research first?
1:03:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would research.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_02: And I do that for various things, depending on what it is.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, even supplements or stuff like that, I read reviews.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_02: You know, because, you know, recently I had somebody...
1:03:55
SPEAKER_02: Go look at my supplements, somebody in the medical field.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_02: And went through and said, all of these are very good stuff.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_02: Every one of these are highly approved good stuff.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_02: You did really well in choosing these correct things.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_02: And my answer was because I researched each and every one of them.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_00: But the answer is kind of it varies from product to product.
1:04:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it depends on what it is.
1:04:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if it's a throwaway thing and I don't expect, what do you want to call quality?
1:04:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm not looking for quality.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_02: I just need something to fill the void.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_02: I may not be picky,
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: but if it's something that,
1:04:40
SPEAKER_02: you know, I need and I want it to last and it's going to be...
1:04:44
SPEAKER_02: You know, a useful item to me for a long-term thing, then I might do some research.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_00: Let me put a specific thing in your eyes and you tell me what you would have bought.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_00: Because I bought one this week.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_00: I had to buy a hair clipper, you know, one of those, you know, hair shave things.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_00: Not because I'm cutting my hair,
1:05:10
SPEAKER_00: but because I use it for the beard because the beard gets very long.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_00: And I have that.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_00: When you bought it, did you buy purposely the name brand thing?
1:05:21
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_00: Why?
1:05:24
SPEAKER_02: Because they have a great reputation and I've had them for years.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_00: So what did you buy, Braun or something?
1:05:29
SPEAKER_02: Wall.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_00: Wall.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm opposite of you on this.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_00: And boy,
1:05:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't know that I'm paying for it because I haven't even opened this out of
1:05:39
SPEAKER_00: the box yet, but I just didn't even look at it.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_00: I just was like, I literally was looking and I was like, you know what?
1:05:45
SPEAKER_00: This is something I really don't give a shit about.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_00: It's something that I'm going to go and be done with, you know?
1:05:52
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_00: And so I really didn't say, well, I need to get a Wall or Braun or whatever the brand is.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_00: So I ordered one.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_00: I went online.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_00: There was one.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_00: It had 4.97 review or whatever.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_00: That's all I needed to see.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_00: So I ordered this stupid thing, right?
1:06:12
SPEAKER_00: So I get it.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_00: My kid brings it to me.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_00: He goes, what the fuck did you buy?
1:06:19
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, what do you mean?
1:06:20
SPEAKER_00: What did I buy?
1:06:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to show you.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_00: Here is my professional hair.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_00: Let me put myself on full screen here for a minute if I can find the thing.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_00: So people can see this.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_00: Where is my, there's me.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_00: So I bought this, the Professional Hair Clipper, okay?
1:06:39
SPEAKER_00: And now if you can see the top part, it is a nutcore, a nutcore hair trimmer.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_02: That's the name of the brand?
1:06:50
SPEAKER_00: That's the brand name, nutcore.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_00: My kid was like, what the fuck is that?
1:06:58
SPEAKER_00: He thought I was buying something to shave my nuts or something.
1:07:05
SPEAKER_00: But honestly, I just didn't look.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_00: I just looked,
1:07:07
SPEAKER_00: and it was,
1:07:09
SPEAKER_00: here's the thing,
1:07:11
SPEAKER_00: and it was like $14 instead of $39 or something,
1:07:16
SPEAKER_00: and it was highly rated, so I bought it.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_00: And I don't necessarily regret it.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I haven't even opened the box yet.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, the beard is still here.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I haven't even opened it yet, but it's just funny.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_00: You don't realize what you're buying sometimes.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_00: It's like with the in-ears that you have.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_00: Are those name brand or are those just something you found?
1:07:41
SPEAKER_02: No, it's just something I researched.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_00: See, you even did the research.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_00: The ones that I have now are a Lakato
1:07:53
SPEAKER_00: in-ears or whatever.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_00: And I've never heard of Lakato.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's good or bad.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_00: It does work.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know anything about the brand I bought,
1:08:02
SPEAKER_02: but I saw the rating about how many hours or whatever.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_02: No, the quality of the audio that it produces.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_02: That it's got X highs and X lows and it's got You know,
1:08:24
SPEAKER_02: so many coils inside and it's a higher density coil and blah, blah, blah.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:08:31
SPEAKER_02: and obviously I've looked at the price and,
1:08:34
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:08:34
SPEAKER_02: looked at the reviews and, you know, I'm very happy with the set that I have.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_00: I love that set that you sent me.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_00: It was great.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_02: It sounds great.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_02: And I bought you the same one.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_00: And I just wore it out.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's, that's really what it came to was.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_00: And honestly, that was the biggest sell for me with the Lakato.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_00: Was that it comes with this little box.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_00: There's a little box.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_00: And it comes with two receivers and one transmitter so that,
1:09:04
SPEAKER_00: like when I'm doing this show,
1:09:06
SPEAKER_00: I can use this one for half and then I switch to the other one for the other half
1:09:10
SPEAKER_00: and then it makes sure I don't put a ton of weight.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_00: And it had a longer battery life than the one.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_00: These have a 30-hour battery life.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't really need to switch them.
1:09:21
SPEAKER_00: I probably am only taking it down 10%.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_00: But again,
1:09:25
SPEAKER_00: I use it so much with the interviews and the other shows and this show and all
1:09:31
SPEAKER_00: the different bullshit that I do that I knew I needed something
1:09:34
SPEAKER_00: a little more strong.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_00: And I'll be honest,
1:09:36
SPEAKER_00: these do not sound nearly as good as the ones that I had previously and
1:09:40
SPEAKER_00: that you have.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_00: But I don't really need it.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_00: It's not like I'm sitting in here listening to music either.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_00: It's, you know, can I hear you speak?
1:09:50
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I can.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, that's all I'd need.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I'm not normally, like, it's got to be something that's very specific.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't think I would buy a Ginsu dishwasher.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think I would look for, like, a Kenmore or something.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't even know if Kenmore's the brand.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_00: I'd have to look up who makes dishwashers, like Maytag or something.
1:10:17
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_00: Or a washer-dryer.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_00: I would look up, like, Maytag before I would buy, you know, horseshit brand.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_00: But, yeah, I got zapped pretty good with the nut core.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, like when I've purchased flat-screen TVs for the house.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm a big fan of LG.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm an LG guy.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love the LGs.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_02: You know, so that's all I have is LGs.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_02: That's all I've ever purchased,
1:10:45
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:10:45
SPEAKER_02: because I've done comparisons,
1:10:47
SPEAKER_02: in-store comparisons,
1:10:48
SPEAKER_02: like I'll go to a Best Buy or something and look at the various quality of picture
1:10:54
SPEAKER_02: and thing,
1:10:55
SPEAKER_02: and I've always been sold on the LGs,
1:10:58
SPEAKER_02: you know, and I've always been happy with them.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, Philips, is it Philips?
1:11:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_02: So, so they're usually rated pretty high as well, but, but I'm sold on the old G's.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_03: See, I don't spend a ton with TVs.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_00: I don't spend a ton of money cause I burn them up.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_00: You know, I, I, because they're always on in this house, they're always on.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_00: So it's, you know, I, I go through a TV about every probably four years, three, four years.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_00: I burned through a TV.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_00: And sometimes I get burned.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_00: Like the one that I just bought six weeks ago or whatever it was, I bought a Vizio.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_00: And I looked it up and it had pretty good reviews and stuff.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_00: So I thought, okay, this will be good.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm telling everybody that's listening right now, do not buy a Vizio TV these days.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_00: Jesus fucking Christ.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_00: Picture is great.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_00: Sound is pretty good.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_00: It's not loud enough for me and I've pushed every setting under the sun trying
1:11:58
SPEAKER_00: to Elevate the audio a little bit.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to have to buy a soundbar because it's just not loud enough for me.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_00: But the real drag to this thing, and this is fucking bullshit.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_00: I got a feeling they're all going to be doing this soon.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_00: So it is a smart TV and I don't use that at all.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_00: You know,
1:12:19
SPEAKER_00: like as soon as I turn it on,
1:12:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm hitting the input button to go to either my Roku or my other box.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_00: My other box.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_00: And even when you do that,
1:12:35
SPEAKER_00: when you hit the input thing,
1:12:37
SPEAKER_00: it immediately pops up a full screen ad that you have to exit out of
1:12:43
SPEAKER_00: before it'll take you to the different input.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's why I don't have my TV connected to the internet.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but in the future, you're going to get that.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_00: In the future,
1:12:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you,
1:12:55
SPEAKER_00: it won't let me Like it doesn't save, like I always use HDMI 1 or 2.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't ever use the regular TV version.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_00: But every time you turn the TV on, you have to switch the input.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, I do that.
1:13:13
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:13:14
SPEAKER_02: you can switch the input,
1:13:16
SPEAKER_02: but you don't have to have your TV connected to the internet.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_00: I wonder what it would do if you
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SPEAKER_02: I purposely don't connect my TV to the internet because of all the spyware on it.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't care if my TV sees me jacking my dick.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_02: I'm not talking about that.
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SPEAKER_02: For the purposes exactly of what you're talking about,
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SPEAKER_02: people tell me all the time,
1:14:54
SPEAKER_02: people who still use Facebook app and they have these apps.
1:14:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, I was just talking about that today and here's an ad for it.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it does happen all the time.
1:15:03
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's listening to you.
1:15:06
SPEAKER_02: It does happen all the time.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_02: So same way with your TV when it's connected to the internet,
1:15:11
SPEAKER_02: which is why I purposely don't connect the television itself to the internet.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_02: It's the Roku is connected to the internet, obviously, but not the television.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:15:23
SPEAKER_00: I got a feeling the Roku is going to be like that pretty soon, too.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_02: But regardless, I purposely did not allow the television to connect to the internet.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_00: That makes sense.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_00: So you stream everything through the Roku though.
1:15:39
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
1:15:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:15:40
SPEAKER_00: That makes sense.
1:15:42
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_00: Well, that was, I just wanted to share my, my nut core experience.
1:15:48
SPEAKER_00: I just couldn't believe it.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_02: I, again, it's, it's, it's all subjective.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_02: I mean, here, here's something is kind of silly or stupid.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_02: You know, because I just like to read the reviews and see what's up.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I bought a,
1:16:03
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:16:04
SPEAKER_02: one of those little, one of those little wisp type things that mixes drinks.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, sure.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_02: Like I have a drink Brick House Nutrition in the morning,
1:16:17
SPEAKER_02: which is, Which is fruit and vegetable powder and it mixes.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_02: And so I needed one of those little cordless.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_02: Stir things.
1:16:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_02: And it just, you know, zips it up.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_02: And of course I went through and read review on it half a dozen or more before I picked one.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
1:16:35
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_02: Just that simple.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_02: Over a stir thing.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_00: See, I would have just bought the first one that popped up.
1:16:40
SPEAKER_02: See, that's the thing.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_02: I looked at it and they go,
1:16:43
SPEAKER_02: the battery on this is the recharge and it lasts X amount of hours and it comes
1:16:50
SPEAKER_02: with two or three different connectors to it.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_02: What do you want to call them?
1:16:57
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't sit on a charger.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_02: No, you charge it and then it doesn't sit on a charger.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_02: You just charge it and it's good for forever.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_02: It's like your remote for your Roku.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_02: I know you use your phone,
1:17:14
SPEAKER_02: but if you have a rechargeable Roku remote, I mean,
1:17:17
SPEAKER_02: you could use that for six months before you have to charge it again, you know?
1:17:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sure.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_00: I use my remote sometimes because...
1:17:25
SPEAKER_00: I'll be honest.
1:17:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm getting super lazy.
1:17:29
SPEAKER_00: And more and more, it's like, I do not want to be doing that.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_00: L-A-Z.
1:17:36
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't want to.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of times now, I just use the regular remote because it has the talk to it.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah,
1:17:43
SPEAKER_02: It does talk and
1:17:44
SPEAKER_00: it'll just find whatever you're looking for.
1:17:47
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:17:50
SPEAKER_00: Chris, that's how you end up with a house full of broken junk.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_00: True.
1:17:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:17:56
SPEAKER_00: It's very true.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_00: And I do have a lot of shit that I should throw away.
1:18:01
SPEAKER_00: Why do we do that?
1:18:02
SPEAKER_00: I don't think you do it, but I think most people do that.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_00: When something goes bad, we somehow have some delusion that we're going to fix it.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_00: And we throw it in a closet.
1:18:17
SPEAKER_00: And then after like five years,
1:18:18
SPEAKER_00: you go in that closet,
1:18:19
SPEAKER_00: it's like, why in the fuck am I holding on to this broken DVD player?
1:18:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, now not only is it broken, but it's out of date too.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_00: Now it probably won't even power up because it hasn't been plugged in in six years.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_00: And it doesn't work if it does power up.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_00: You know,
1:18:36
SPEAKER_00: it's like,
1:18:37
SPEAKER_00: why don't we just throw that shit right in the garbage the same as you would,
1:18:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, an Apple core or something.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_00: You know, it doesn't make any sense.
1:18:47
SPEAKER_00: But we all, I do it.
1:18:49
SPEAKER_00: Everybody I know does it.
1:18:50
SPEAKER_00: Everybody I know has some useless piece of shit in their closet that they're never going to fix.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_00: Everybody except you.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_00: I know you don't because that ain't you.
1:19:02
SPEAKER_00: There's no chance you would do.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_00: I could see you not,
1:19:05
SPEAKER_00: like if you had an electric toothbrush or something and it stopped working,
1:19:09
SPEAKER_00: that motherfucker would be in the trash that minute.
1:19:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just get another one.
1:19:15
SPEAKER_00: That minute.
1:19:15
SPEAKER_00: And you'd probably jump in your car and go get it that minute.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_02: No, I'd just get on the old interwebs and order it from me.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_00: But it would be that minute.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_02: Pretty much.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_02: It would not be.
1:19:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, you wouldn't throw it away and forget about it.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_00: And then tomorrow when you go to brush your teeth,
1:19:31
SPEAKER_00: you don't have a fucking toothbrush and you'd be like, oh, fuck.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_00: That would never happen with you.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_00: See, that happens with me all the time with every fucking thing.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_00: Everything I'd.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_00: Dude, my last TV died.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_00: I kept it here probably eight days before I finally took it out of here
1:19:54
SPEAKER_00: with some thought that I was going to take it apart and figure this or that out.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_02: You're going to figure out how to place it, replace a transistor.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm going to, you know, now with the AI, I'm going to take it apart.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to take a picture.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to say, what's wrong with it?
1:20:09
SPEAKER_00: Fix it.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_00: Tell me what to do.
1:20:11
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:20:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, I had some stupid delusion that that was going to happen.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I just sat there for eight days.
1:20:16
SPEAKER_02: I could see you sitting there with a soldering iron.
1:20:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, please.
1:20:20
SPEAKER_00: That's the whole other thing.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_00: What am I thinking?
1:20:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't fix shit.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm the guy that won't go and change his own oil on his car, but I'm going to fix a television?
1:20:28
SPEAKER_00: What the fuck is wrong with me?
1:20:30
SPEAKER_02: My old man's a television repairman.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_02: He's got the ultimate set of tools.
1:20:37
SPEAKER_02: He can fix it.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_00: He can fix it.
1:20:39
SPEAKER_00: He can fix anything.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_00: He can fix it.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_00: Who can't fix this car, Spicoli?
1:20:44
SPEAKER_00: I can fix it.
1:20:45
SPEAKER_00: I can fix it.
1:20:48
SPEAKER_00: Such a great movie.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_00: Such a great movie.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:20:55
SPEAKER_00: Let's get into some real stuff.
1:20:57
SPEAKER_00: I thought that was going to be two minutes.
1:20:59
SPEAKER_00: It was 20.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_00: So let's get into something for real.
1:21:02
SPEAKER_02: It's relatable.
1:21:03
SPEAKER_02: It's relatable stuff.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_03: If people don't like it, well, you know what?
1:21:07
SPEAKER_03: Skip that part.
1:21:08
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's talk about some shit.
1:21:12
SPEAKER_00: Fuck you, Brian.
1:21:13
SPEAKER_00: First of all, fuck you, Brian, Chris's salvage yard.
1:21:16
SPEAKER_00: What am I, fucking Sanford and son here?
1:21:19
SPEAKER_02: You're Sanford and Chris.
1:21:21
SPEAKER_00: I got the gray beard like Sanford.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:21:27
SPEAKER_00: And I do have my son living here.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_00: It could be Sanford and son.
1:21:30
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_02: That's your Fred Aiken.
1:21:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_00: Get that TV out of here, dummy.
1:21:39
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's talk some music, shall we?
1:21:41
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
1:21:42
SPEAKER_00: The big story of the week, not a surprise.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_00: Well, the surprise that this happened, but it's not a surprise it's the big story of the week.
1:21:49
SPEAKER_02: Well, there's two big stories as far as I'm concerned.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_00: I think this is the biggie.
1:21:53
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:21:54
SPEAKER_00: To me.
1:21:55
SPEAKER_00: That would be Ian Hill announcing a pretty sudden retirement from Judas Priest.
1:22:00
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:22:02
SPEAKER_00: That's a big story.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_02: He just got new hair and now he's retiring.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm so happy that I just interviewed him for the last record.
1:22:11
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, because he's probably never going to do interviews again.
1:22:16
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's probably done.
1:22:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he may.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_00: Do you think he shows up at like a show here and there like Glenn Tipton does?
1:22:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_00: For sure, whatever the final show is.
1:22:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, why not?
1:22:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, he may.
1:22:31
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:22:32
SPEAKER_02: when they swing through England or wherever it is that he lives,
1:22:34
SPEAKER_02: he may come out on stage and do a couple cameo appearances or something.
1:22:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or play a song or something.
1:22:41
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
1:22:41
SPEAKER_00: But I don't know.
1:22:43
SPEAKER_00: To me, when I saw this thing, I was like, that really is the end of the era.
1:22:50
SPEAKER_00: It's not Judas Priest anymore.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_00: It is the Rob Halford Band.
1:22:55
SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
1:22:56
SPEAKER_02: That's what it is.
1:22:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no...
1:23:00
SPEAKER_00: No original members.
1:23:03
SPEAKER_00: I know Halford's been there a shit long, shit long time and basically is an original member.
1:23:09
SPEAKER_00: He's an original recording member, I guess.
1:23:12
SPEAKER_00: But he's not the original,
1:23:13
SPEAKER_00: you know, of course, the great Al Atkins, who doesn't let anybody forget that.
1:23:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:23:18
SPEAKER_02: And of course, of course, we made a little news with the whole Al Atkins thing.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_02: I interviewed KK way back.
1:23:26
SPEAKER_02: What was the 2008 or something like that?
1:23:28
SPEAKER_02: Mm hmm.
1:23:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:23:31
SPEAKER_00: And Al got all upset at KK.
1:23:34
SPEAKER_02: He got all upset calling him Ken.
1:23:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:23:37
SPEAKER_00: Ken shouldn't.
1:23:38
SPEAKER_00: He's speaking out of turn.
1:23:39
SPEAKER_00: Is that what the term was?
1:23:41
SPEAKER_00: He's speaking out of turn.
1:23:42
SPEAKER_02: Something to that effect.
1:23:43
SPEAKER_02: But I just remember the interview I did with KK and asked him about the whole Al Atkins thing.
1:23:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:23:50
SPEAKER_02: And he more or less just said, yeah, I don't know why he keeps doing that.
1:23:53
SPEAKER_02: He was in the band for like 10 minutes or something.
1:23:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_02: Just made headlines.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:24:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, him, Dave Evans, you know, there's a slew of those guys out there.
1:24:05
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of Pete Best's out there.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:24:08
SPEAKER_00: Dude, I got to tell you this.
1:24:11
SPEAKER_00: This is a side story, and we'll come back to this.
1:24:13
SPEAKER_00: So I was interviewing, the guy's name is Lee Richards.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_00: He's the original guitar player of Godsmack.
1:24:19
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_00: But he left Godsmack before they blew up.
1:24:23
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_00: You know, he...
1:24:25
SPEAKER_00: Interesting story.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_00: He found out he had a kid.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_00: He didn't know he had a kid.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_00: Then he found out he had a kid.
1:24:30
SPEAKER_00: So he quit the band to go and be a dad.
1:24:33
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:24:34
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's interesting to say the least.
1:24:36
SPEAKER_00: And then obviously Godsmack went,
1:24:40
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:24:40
SPEAKER_00: so I'm interviewing him and I said,
1:24:42
SPEAKER_00: dude, you're basically the Pete Best of Godsmack.
1:24:46
SPEAKER_00: I got a look like, what the fuck did you just say?
1:24:51
SPEAKER_02: Did he not get the reference?
1:24:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh, he got the reference.
1:24:54
SPEAKER_00: He didn't like the reference a whole lot.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, why?
1:24:57
SPEAKER_00: What's wrong with saying that?
1:25:00
SPEAKER_00: Because Pete Best is considered a goof for missing out on the Beatles.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, he missed out on Godsmack.
1:25:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, I agree.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_02: Dude, that's why I said it.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's a fair...
1:25:13
SPEAKER_00: I know, but you know, these guys, I don't like to hear they did anything wrong.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_00: Although I don't even want to shit talk to this guy.
1:25:18
SPEAKER_00: He was super, super nice.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean did something wrong?
1:25:22
SPEAKER_02: He didn't do anything wrong.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_02: I thought he did the
1:25:24
SPEAKER_00: right thing.
1:25:25
SPEAKER_02: He just missed the boat.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_02: That's all.
1:25:27
SPEAKER_00: He missed the boat on fame.
1:25:29
SPEAKER_00: And he still works with all that.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's still good with all these guys.
1:25:32
SPEAKER_00: He did that another animal band with them and.
1:25:35
SPEAKER_00: He has a band with Whitfield Crane and Shannon Larkin.
1:25:39
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:25:39
SPEAKER_00: So he works with those guys all the time.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_00: Like he's still in that camp.
1:25:43
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_00: But he just, he missed the, he was in Godsmack.
1:25:48
SPEAKER_00: And that's a pretty big swing and a miss in the last 25 years, don't you think?
1:25:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
1:25:54
SPEAKER_00: It's Pete Best.
1:25:55
SPEAKER_00: I don't think that was a bad comparison at all.
1:25:58
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it was a little rough to say it, but.
1:26:01
SPEAKER_02: I would have not taken offense to it.
1:26:05
SPEAKER_00: He just gave me that kind of like he was,
1:26:07
SPEAKER_00: you know, he's all happy and it was one of these, you know, one of those things.
1:26:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:26:14
SPEAKER_00: But it's fine.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_00: Good dude, though.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_00: Really good and great interview and great record.
1:26:18
SPEAKER_00: Goddamn.
1:26:19
SPEAKER_00: If you like Pearl Jam or Creed or any of that kind of stuff.
1:26:22
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
1:26:23
SPEAKER_00: What a fucking killer record this guy put out.
1:26:26
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, back to Ian Hill.
1:26:29
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:26:31
SPEAKER_00: Well, obviously...
1:26:34
SPEAKER_00: It really now calls into play, is this Judas Priest or not?
1:26:39
SPEAKER_00: I guess it is.
1:26:40
SPEAKER_00: They got the name.
1:26:41
SPEAKER_00: That's all it is.
1:26:42
SPEAKER_00: Who owns the name, do you think?
1:26:43
SPEAKER_00: Halford?
1:26:44
SPEAKER_00: I don't think Halford owns the name.
1:26:47
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, he's the only longstanding guy.
1:26:50
SPEAKER_02: I know, but I think that's a good question.
1:26:55
SPEAKER_02: Because when Halford was gone, it's not like he...
1:27:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, because he wasn't part of Judas Priest when they started as Judas Priest.
1:27:05
SPEAKER_02: So you would think KK or Tipton or somebody like that.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_00: You think it'd be Tipton and Ian would be the owner.
1:27:11
SPEAKER_02: You would think it'd be Ian because he's the only one out there.
1:27:15
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it might be Ian who owns it.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, yeah, you got my blessing.
1:27:18
SPEAKER_02: I mean, just because I can't play doesn't mean you guys should suffer.
1:27:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:27:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:27:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, now you went and saw KK's Priest.
1:27:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, two nights ago or last night or whatever.
1:27:30
SPEAKER_00: Just last night.
1:27:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:27:31
SPEAKER_00: Last night.
1:27:35
SPEAKER_00: What is Judas Priest now?
1:27:37
SPEAKER_00: In your head, quote unquote, Judas Priest is playing this place.
1:27:43
SPEAKER_00: KK's Priest is playing that place.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_00: You have free tickets to both.
1:27:49
SPEAKER_00: Where are you going?
1:27:50
SPEAKER_02: KK.
1:27:51
SPEAKER_00: Without any thought.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_02: No, no thought at all.
1:27:54
SPEAKER_00: After seeing what I saw last night.
1:27:58
SPEAKER_00: Even though the Judas Priest one would be a much bigger production.
1:28:04
SPEAKER_02: Doesn't matter.
1:28:05
SPEAKER_00: Doesn't matter.
1:28:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because, you know, Tim just brought it.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_02: Tim's great.
1:28:11
SPEAKER_02: He's so good.
1:28:12
SPEAKER_02: Tim just brought it, and the band sounded great, and they sounded solid.
1:28:17
SPEAKER_02: And if I just want to go for a night of Judas Priest music, I'll go see KK's Priest.
1:28:24
SPEAKER_00: Well, five years ago,
1:28:27
SPEAKER_00: four or five years ago,
1:28:29
SPEAKER_00: All we could say,
1:28:30
SPEAKER_00: once Glenn was finally stepping down,
1:28:32
SPEAKER_00: everybody pushed to try and get KK back in the band.
1:28:37
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:28:37
SPEAKER_00: Except for the band guys themselves.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_00: All the fans wanted KK back in the band.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_02: And I mean, he's still performing at a high level, in my opinion.
1:28:47
SPEAKER_02: He was still moving around the stage and...
1:28:49
SPEAKER_02: You know, rocking out and looking like KK.
1:28:52
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you watch the video again that I took last night,
1:28:56
SPEAKER_02: he looks like KK out there just rocking it out.
1:28:59
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't look like a broken down,
1:29:02
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:29:03
SPEAKER_02: old man trying to creep around on the stage,
1:29:06
SPEAKER_02: you know, with a flying V. I mean, he was he was rocking out last night.
1:29:11
SPEAKER_00: So if the decision like.
1:29:14
SPEAKER_00: Let's just say,
1:29:15
SPEAKER_00: and I'm throwing stuff out here that I'm talking completely out of my ass on,
1:29:21
SPEAKER_00: but let's just say that because Ian stepped down,
1:29:26
SPEAKER_00: that Halford or Jane Andrews or whoever it is,
1:29:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know if Jane is still in charge of the band,
1:29:31
SPEAKER_00: but whoever it is that's in charge of the band,
1:29:34
SPEAKER_00: let's say that they're watching,
1:29:36
SPEAKER_00: they see how great this KK's Priest sounds and how great KK is still playing.
1:29:43
SPEAKER_00: And they reach out to KK to rejoin Judas Priest.
1:29:48
SPEAKER_02: Give it some legitimacy or something?
1:29:50
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:29:51
SPEAKER_00: Do you think he does that?
1:29:52
SPEAKER_00: Or do you think he says, you know what?
1:29:54
SPEAKER_00: You guys told me to fuck off then.
1:29:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to tell you to fuck off now because I've got this entity that's working.
1:30:03
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think it goes beyond that.
1:30:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:30:07
SPEAKER_02: You think it's money?
1:30:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think money is one thing.
1:30:10
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
1:30:15
SPEAKER_02: Partnership percentage if it is a partnership.
1:30:18
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:30:19
SPEAKER_02: How much say he has in the band if it's equal say.
1:30:23
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:30:26
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:30:26
SPEAKER_02: I think it's a whole litany of things aside from,
1:30:29
SPEAKER_02: well, you're a hired gun, but we need you in the band for legitimacy.
1:30:33
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:30:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that would work.
1:30:35
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:30:36
SPEAKER_02: But I would think he would have to be restored as a full member.
1:30:41
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:30:42
SPEAKER_00: Do you think that that is a possibility?
1:30:45
SPEAKER_00: Could be, but I
1:30:45
SPEAKER_00: don't see it happening, though.
1:30:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:30:48
SPEAKER_02: Because if he was on good terms with those guys, I think it would have already happened.
1:30:56
SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
1:30:57
SPEAKER_02: But after what we saw at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony,
1:31:03
SPEAKER_02: like he was a pariah on his side of the stage, that spoke volumes to me.
1:31:09
SPEAKER_00: Me too.
1:31:11
SPEAKER_00: And boy, would that be a royal, royal fuck off to Tim.
1:31:18
SPEAKER_00: If KK said, well,
1:31:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to put it down and I'm going to go and play these same exact songs
1:31:21
SPEAKER_00: with these guys instead.
1:31:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:31:24
SPEAKER_00: That would be a real fuck you to Tim.
1:31:29
SPEAKER_00: Who's done nothing but make this project great.
1:31:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:31:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, on record and, you know, live.
1:31:35
SPEAKER_00: He's been phenomenal.
1:31:38
SPEAKER_00: So, oof.
1:31:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a weird, what would you rather?
1:31:43
SPEAKER_00: Forget the fact that you've seen both and you like KK's Priest as an entity better.
1:31:48
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if all the stars aligned,
1:31:50
SPEAKER_00: would you want to see Rob Halford and KK Downing and,
1:31:57
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, Scott Travis and whoever else?
1:32:01
SPEAKER_00: You know, Davey Rimmer from Uriah Heep.
1:32:04
SPEAKER_00: As the bass player, and who's the other one?
1:32:09
SPEAKER_00: Andy Sneap or whatever?
1:32:11
SPEAKER_00: No, Faulkner.
1:32:11
SPEAKER_00: It'd be Richie Faulkner.
1:32:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Richie Faulkner.
1:32:14
SPEAKER_00: Would you want to see that lineup?
1:32:16
SPEAKER_00: Or are we at a place now where, eh, don't really need to anymore.
1:32:21
SPEAKER_00: We're comfortable with KK's Priest.
1:32:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, he went through a cavalcade of Priest music last night.
1:32:29
SPEAKER_02: That was, you know, it scratched my itch for hearing some Priest tunes.
1:32:34
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:32:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a weird thought, man.
1:32:38
SPEAKER_00: It's like,
1:32:40
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:32:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously the easiest thing to do is just keep doing what they're doing.
1:32:45
SPEAKER_00: And Dave Rimmer's a great bassist.
1:32:48
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, that part's going to work.
1:32:51
SPEAKER_00: Although I don't know how that synchronicity thing is going to work
1:32:54
SPEAKER_00: because I believe Rimmer's left-handed.
1:32:57
SPEAKER_00: So you know how they always do the... Yeah.
1:33:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't know that they can do that anymore with one guy facing the other way.
1:33:04
SPEAKER_02: Unless he's on the other side of the stage doing his own thing.
1:33:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they might have to put him over on the other side so he can do it.
1:33:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
1:33:14
SPEAKER_00: Dude, it's such a weird thing with Judas Priest because I love the band like you do.
1:33:19
SPEAKER_00: I always say when people ask me,
1:33:22
SPEAKER_00: they ask me to name my top five bands, it flip-flops between Pantera and Metallica.
1:33:28
SPEAKER_00: But number three is always the same, Judas Priest.
1:33:31
SPEAKER_00: It's always Judas Priest in the three slot for me.
1:33:34
SPEAKER_00: And I just,
1:33:38
SPEAKER_00: it's such a weird thing because they haven't done anything,
1:33:40
SPEAKER_00: they haven't put out anything that's even not good.
1:33:44
SPEAKER_00: You know, other than Nostradamus, and that was eons ago at this point.
1:33:48
SPEAKER_00: You know,
1:33:48
SPEAKER_00: but the last three records have been great,
1:33:53
SPEAKER_00: really, or two great and one really good with bad production.
1:33:57
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:33:58
SPEAKER_02: But they've been solid releases.
1:34:00
SPEAKER_00: They've all been solid,
1:34:01
SPEAKER_00: and I mean,
1:34:03
SPEAKER_00: I'll never get Nostradamus,
1:34:04
SPEAKER_00: but if you take that and ram it down out of their collection,
1:34:09
SPEAKER_00: I think every other record, and there's a lot of them, is fantastic.
1:34:13
SPEAKER_00: Every other record in my head.
1:34:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, what do you think?
1:34:17
SPEAKER_00: Is there anything else that you listen to and you're like, ugh, nah.
1:34:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they're akin to the Megadeth catalog.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm, yeah.
1:34:31
SPEAKER_00: Clunker here and there, but overall pretty damn solid.
1:34:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:34:35
SPEAKER_02: Same thing with Testament.
1:34:36
SPEAKER_02: Testament.
1:34:37
SPEAKER_02: Has Testament put out a bad record?
1:34:40
SPEAKER_02: Some people would argue Demonic,
1:34:42
SPEAKER_02: but... Yeah, I wasn't a fan of Demonic, but was it a bad record?
1:34:45
SPEAKER_00: Nah.
1:34:46
SPEAKER_00: I love Demonic.
1:34:47
SPEAKER_00: I think it's one of their best.
1:34:48
SPEAKER_02: It was just kind of a departure for Testament.
1:34:51
SPEAKER_02: That's all it was, but it wasn't a bad record.
1:34:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:34:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to think with Priest.
1:34:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the only one that really comes to mind is like Roccarolla.
1:34:59
SPEAKER_00: I know a lot of people don't love it.
1:35:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because it's old.
1:35:02
SPEAKER_00: Because it's very old.
1:35:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because they hadn't really developed their sound yet.
1:35:13
SPEAKER_00: So has the brand outlived the band?
1:35:19
SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
1:35:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:35:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, these guys are old.
1:35:25
SPEAKER_02: They're
1:35:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's just like, how long do you go until you just quit?
1:35:37
SPEAKER_02: Does the band stop just due to attrition?
1:35:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:35:41
SPEAKER_02: Or do you just keep getting new members like Quiet Riot?
1:35:45
SPEAKER_03: Well, like so many of them.
1:35:47
SPEAKER_03: Dude, I mean, it's amazing.
1:35:51
SPEAKER_00: And all respect to our late great friend Bob Nelbandian for
1:35:55
SPEAKER_00: the band versus brand way ahead of its time.
1:35:58
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
1:35:59
SPEAKER_00: But I don't think members really matter.
1:36:03
SPEAKER_00: As we go further,
1:36:05
SPEAKER_00: I just think these things are all just going to be ATMs and it's just going to,
1:36:09
SPEAKER_00: I think all these bands are just going to have all new players as long
1:36:13
SPEAKER_00: as they can make money.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_02: I think that's where we're at now.
1:36:17
SPEAKER_02: As long as people come out to see them.
1:36:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:36:19
SPEAKER_00: Because I mean, you look at Quiet Riot, zero original members.
1:36:23
SPEAKER_00: Rudy technically is an OG, but he's not an original guy.
1:36:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, there's none in that band.
1:36:30
SPEAKER_00: There's none in Foreigner.
1:36:32
SPEAKER_00: There's none in Judas Priest.
1:36:36
SPEAKER_00: None in Skinnerd.
1:36:38
SPEAKER_00: And it's all acceptable.
1:36:40
SPEAKER_00: People are still going to these shows.
1:36:42
SPEAKER_00: They're filling rooms.
1:36:43
SPEAKER_02: That brand means everything.
1:36:45
SPEAKER_02: It's the only thing that matters.
1:36:48
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the same way with Steven Piercy.
1:36:50
SPEAKER_02: He goes out, he's not doing Rat.
1:36:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, he's not going out as Rat.
1:36:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:36:56
SPEAKER_02: But he goes out as Steven Piercy of Rat.
1:37:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Rat's like this big and Steven Piercy's like this big.
1:37:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
1:37:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean,
1:37:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm starting to think,
1:37:11
SPEAKER_00: and I'm going somewhere with this,
1:37:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm starting to think that the brand is all that matters now.
1:37:19
SPEAKER_00: Especially with the younger people.
1:37:21
SPEAKER_00: I think us, old fucks, I think we are so old that we're, you know, we were raised on.
1:37:28
SPEAKER_00: If it isn't the originals, it's shit.
1:37:31
SPEAKER_00: But I think the young kids, the 35-year-olds, the 25-year-olds, they don't care.
1:37:37
SPEAKER_00: They weren't raised that way.
1:37:39
SPEAKER_00: All they're raised on is hearing those songs and playing it on Guitar Hero
1:37:43
SPEAKER_00: or whatever they were doing,
1:37:45
SPEAKER_00: you know, rock band or whatever, but they were teenagers and kids.
1:37:50
SPEAKER_00: The members...
1:37:52
SPEAKER_00: Look, I can tell you, my son played the living fuck out of Guitar Hero when he was a boy.
1:37:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, to the point that I hated every,
1:38:00
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't stand fucking Holy Wars for a long time
1:38:03
SPEAKER_00: because every single day I would hear that plastic clicking of
1:38:07
SPEAKER_00: that fucking fake guitar.
1:38:10
SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh my God, just fucking stop.
1:38:14
SPEAKER_00: You know, it got old.
1:38:17
SPEAKER_00: But he loves that music now.
1:38:20
SPEAKER_00: He still loves that music now.
1:38:22
SPEAKER_00: But I can guarantee you, he doesn't give a shit about who's in the band.
1:38:27
SPEAKER_00: He'll listen to a new Judas Priest record or a new Winger record or a new whatever,
1:38:34
SPEAKER_00: Motley Crue song or whatever, but he doesn't care who's in the band.
1:38:38
SPEAKER_02: I mean, let's, you know, I know Blackie Lawless is the original member of Wasp.
1:38:47
SPEAKER_02: And he's had a rotating lineup of Wasp members forever.
1:38:51
SPEAKER_02: Same thing with Metal Church.
1:38:53
SPEAKER_02: If it wasn't for Kurt Vanderhoof, would it be really Metal Church?
1:38:57
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's the question now is I think that I think at this point in the game,
1:39:03
SPEAKER_00: they could go out without Kurt Vanderhoof and still be Metal Church.
1:39:07
SPEAKER_00: And I think they could go out without Blackie Lawless and be Wasp.
1:39:13
SPEAKER_00: Look.
1:39:14
SPEAKER_00: Again, not trying to start the Quiet Riot nonsense again with us,
1:39:19
SPEAKER_00: but look at the fucking craziness of this kid that sounds like Kevin Dubrow.
1:39:26
SPEAKER_00: People don't give a shit that it's not Kevin Dubrow.
1:39:29
SPEAKER_03: They're like, here he is.
1:39:32
SPEAKER_03: Sounds like it.
1:39:33
SPEAKER_03: Sings the song.
1:39:35
SPEAKER_03: Sounds like the Metal Health record.
1:39:38
SPEAKER_00: Good enough.
1:39:39
SPEAKER_00: They'll call that Quiet Riot.
1:39:40
SPEAKER_00: They'll happily call it Quiet Riot.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_00: And they do.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_00: And they do.
1:39:44
SPEAKER_00: Judas Priest.
1:39:46
SPEAKER_00: They're going to happily call that Judas Priest.
1:39:50
SPEAKER_00: And they're going to go out.
1:39:51
SPEAKER_00: And even,
1:39:52
SPEAKER_00: I almost wonder,
1:39:54
SPEAKER_00: let's say Rob Halford decides after the Invincible Shield tour finally ends
1:39:59
SPEAKER_00: after three years or whatever it's been that it's been going.
1:40:03
SPEAKER_03: Let's say he says, I don't want to do this anymore.
1:40:06
SPEAKER_03: And they bring in a new guy or they
1:40:08
SPEAKER_00: bring Ripper back.
1:40:10
SPEAKER_00: Is that still Judas Priest?
1:40:13
SPEAKER_00: I think it is as long as the logo is on top of the show.
1:40:16
SPEAKER_02: As long as they got that big logo up there.
1:40:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:40:22
SPEAKER_00: Wretch Reborn in the chat room says Metal Church did go
1:40:24
SPEAKER_03: out without Vanderhoof in the 90s.
1:40:26
SPEAKER_02: They did.
1:40:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:40:28
SPEAKER_03: It's true.
1:40:32
SPEAKER_02: But they had other original members.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_02: Other original guys.
1:40:35
SPEAKER_02: But there are no original guys in Metal Church aside from Vanderhoof
1:40:40
SPEAKER_00: right now.
1:40:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't think the original guys matter.
1:40:44
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're boys that you go out with all the time, Dokken.
1:40:47
SPEAKER_00: If Don was to say, I'm 74,
1:40:52
SPEAKER_00: my fucking hand doesn't work,
1:40:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm struggling around on the stage, whatever, I want to be done.
1:40:57
SPEAKER_00: But I want to make 20% and we're going to find a Don Dokken ringer on the internet
1:41:04
SPEAKER_00: and we'll bring him in.
1:41:06
SPEAKER_00: I think they could still tour as Dokken.
1:41:09
SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
1:41:09
SPEAKER_00: I think they could.
1:41:10
SPEAKER_00: I think Rat, we saw it.
1:41:14
SPEAKER_00: We saw a rat go out there numerous times without various pieces.
1:41:19
SPEAKER_00: I think you could go out there with a rat with no original members.
1:41:25
SPEAKER_00: I do.
1:41:26
SPEAKER_00: I think we're at a stage now where those of us that are of the age that care about
1:41:31
SPEAKER_00: that shit are dying off and we're not going to the shows as much anyway.
1:41:36
SPEAKER_00: So the young kids don't give a shit.
1:41:38
SPEAKER_00: They're fine with what we used to call tribute bands are now bands.
1:41:44
SPEAKER_00: I think we've taken the tribute off of it now, and they're just bands.
1:41:47
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, again, look at the band Chicago, or what they call Chicago.
1:41:54
SPEAKER_02: It's got Lee Locknane, the trumpet player, and the rest is just dudes.
1:42:02
SPEAKER_00: If that guy, Lee, what's his name?
1:42:03
SPEAKER_00: Lee Locknane?
1:42:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Lee Locknane.
1:42:06
SPEAKER_00: If Lee Locknane said,
1:42:07
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to do this anymore,
1:42:09
SPEAKER_00: and they worked out a deal for Lee Locknane to get 20% of revenue
1:42:15
SPEAKER_00: and they just repackaged Leonid and Friends as Chicago.
1:42:19
SPEAKER_00: Would that matter to fans anymore?
1:42:21
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think so.
1:42:22
SPEAKER_02: Because every time I go see Leonid and Friends, they pack the place out.
1:42:29
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's what I'm saying is I think brand is all that matters now.
1:42:37
SPEAKER_02: It is.
1:42:38
SPEAKER_03: I agree.
1:42:39
SPEAKER_03: You know, and I don't know if that's okay or if I'm sad about that.
1:42:43
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm sad about it.
1:42:45
SPEAKER_02: Why are you sad about it?
1:42:47
SPEAKER_02: Because you and I grew up with these people.
1:42:52
SPEAKER_02: We knew these people's names.
1:42:54
SPEAKER_02: We knew what they brought to the table as a musician, you know, through Dockin out there.
1:43:03
SPEAKER_02: We knew what George Lynch brought to the table as a guitarist, you know.
1:43:08
SPEAKER_02: We knew,
1:43:09
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:43:10
SPEAKER_02: you know, from, say,
1:43:11
SPEAKER_02: the rat standpoint,
1:43:12
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:43:13
SPEAKER_02: we knew what that twin guitar attack between Robin Crosby
1:43:18
SPEAKER_02: and Warren Demartini brought to the rat sound.
1:43:21
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:43:22
SPEAKER_02: You know, and the personalities, obviously.
1:43:26
SPEAKER_02: You know, Stephen Piercy actually looked like a rat.
1:43:31
SPEAKER_02: Back in the day,
1:43:32
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:43:32
SPEAKER_02: because he had that black eyeliner and had that,
1:43:37
SPEAKER_02: you know, and it was just kind of, you know, we knew these people by name.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, we got to know them by name.
1:44:18
SPEAKER_02: And that's where I think the connection comes.
1:44:23
SPEAKER_02: And the sadness comes in is because we knew who they were by name.
1:44:27
SPEAKER_02: We knew Rob Halford and we knew Ian Hill and we know KK Downing and Glenn Tipton.
1:44:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
1:44:34
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
1:44:35
SPEAKER_00: But we're dying.
1:44:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
1:44:37
SPEAKER_02: And the same thing with Iron Maiden.
1:44:40
SPEAKER_02: I mean, God bless Iron Maiden for keeping it together as long as they have.
1:44:44
SPEAKER_00: As long as they have.
1:44:45
SPEAKER_02: It's amazing.
1:44:46
SPEAKER_02: With mostly original members.
1:44:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean,
1:44:49
SPEAKER_00: it really is amazing that they have I just don't think,
1:44:53
SPEAKER_00: I think now too, A,
1:44:57
SPEAKER_00: I don't agree with,
1:44:59
SPEAKER_00: while I agree with you that for us personally,
1:45:03
SPEAKER_00: it matters because we're old and we're old school, I don't think it matters a lick.
1:45:09
SPEAKER_00: And I'm basing this off of everything that I'm seeing out there now.
1:45:13
SPEAKER_00: And quite honestly, look at the bands that we still sort of acknowledge as the bands.
1:45:19
SPEAKER_00: Dockin'.
1:45:20
SPEAKER_00: Dokken has been Don Dokken for 25 years.
1:45:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:45:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, up until,
1:45:26
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:45:27
SPEAKER_02: up until Mick left the band back in, what, 2018, you know, there was half of Dokken.
1:45:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but now, but nobody flinched on it when Mick retired.
1:45:37
SPEAKER_02: No, not at all.
1:45:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's still Dokken in most people's heads.
1:45:41
SPEAKER_00: It's Dokken.
1:45:41
SPEAKER_00: It's not the Don Dokken band.
1:45:43
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, since I'm out there with them, people just want to see Don show up.
1:45:50
SPEAKER_02: That's all they care about.
1:45:52
SPEAKER_00: Now, but five years from now,
1:45:56
SPEAKER_00: if you put another singer in there and they tour as Dockin,
1:46:00
SPEAKER_00: if it was,
1:46:01
SPEAKER_00: and I don't think this would be a lineup,
1:46:03
SPEAKER_00: but if it was BJ and it was McCarvel and it was Levin and it was Joe Smith
1:46:10
SPEAKER_00: that sounds just like 1988, just got lucky, Don.
1:46:17
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
1:46:17
SPEAKER_00: I think people would still accept that as Dokken.
1:46:21
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_00: I think they would.
1:46:23
SPEAKER_00: And I don't want to only focus on Dokken because that's all we ever talk about.
1:46:27
SPEAKER_00: Queensryche.
1:46:30
SPEAKER_00: They gutted that band.
1:46:32
SPEAKER_00: They got the bassist and a guitarist.
1:46:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, two guys.
1:46:37
SPEAKER_00: And not the guitarist that wrote anything and not the singer that wrote anything.
1:46:41
SPEAKER_00: And people are just fine with it.
1:46:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they go and they get to play bigger venues, too.
1:46:46
SPEAKER_00: Nobody looks at Queensryche and says, ah, fucking tribute band.
1:46:50
SPEAKER_00: They're just like, Queensryche.
1:46:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's just how it is.
1:46:55
SPEAKER_00: And you know what the weird thing is?
1:46:57
SPEAKER_00: If you look at the other side of the pendulum,
1:47:00
SPEAKER_00: you got Warrant with every original member except for the singer,
1:47:05
SPEAKER_00: and nobody accepts that as anything but a tribute.
1:47:08
SPEAKER_00: Same with Grey White.
1:47:11
SPEAKER_00: Don't you have most of the original guys from Great White?
1:47:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, most of the most popular lineup is still part of Great White.
1:47:18
SPEAKER_00: It's part of Great White.
1:47:19
SPEAKER_00: And people openly accept that as Great White.
1:47:23
SPEAKER_00: Or they don't accept that, rather, as Great White.
1:47:25
SPEAKER_00: They were accepting Jack Russell's Great White, which was only Jack Russell, as Great White.
1:47:32
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
1:47:32
SPEAKER_00: Dude, you know that.
1:47:34
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we would say it all the time.
1:47:36
SPEAKER_00: You'd say Jack Russell's Great White.
1:47:37
SPEAKER_00: And what was people's first reaction?
1:47:39
SPEAKER_00: Which one is that?
1:47:41
SPEAKER_00: Even though you said his name on it, they were like, is that this one or that one?
1:47:46
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:47:47
SPEAKER_00: But I think overall the brand,
1:47:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm starting to really think that we are,
1:47:53
SPEAKER_00: especially because all these guys are getting into their 70s or whatever,
1:47:57
SPEAKER_00: and it's amazing that so many of them are out there still playing and playing shows
1:48:01
SPEAKER_00: and whatever.
1:48:02
SPEAKER_00: I just think that these guys are going to,
1:48:05
SPEAKER_00: and more their management than them,
1:48:08
SPEAKER_00: But they're going to see the money and they're going to just be like, I'm doing it.
1:48:13
SPEAKER_00: I'll just go with no original members.
1:48:15
SPEAKER_00: We'll take a stipend.
1:48:17
SPEAKER_00: Dude, would people go?
1:48:19
SPEAKER_00: I think people would accept Guns N' Roses without Axl Rose.
1:48:23
SPEAKER_00: They accepted Guns N' Roses with only Axl Rose.
1:48:28
SPEAKER_00: I think they would.
1:48:30
SPEAKER_00: I think they'd still be stadium level.
1:48:33
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think Foreigner is the one who was actually the test animal.
1:48:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:48:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:48:38
SPEAKER_00: And they passed.
1:48:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and they passed.
1:48:40
SPEAKER_02: Or Skinner.
1:48:42
SPEAKER_00: Skinner, too.
1:48:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're still, I mean, they've been playing big rooms or big sheds for 35 years.
1:48:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, since they got back together in, what, 87?
1:48:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 87, yeah.
1:48:55
SPEAKER_02: Because they got back together as a tribute to 10-year anniversary of the plane crash.
1:49:03
SPEAKER_00: And they've been playing 15, like, sheds since.
1:49:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:49:08
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:49:08
SPEAKER_00: Every summer.
1:49:09
SPEAKER_00: Every summer.
1:49:10
SPEAKER_02: And it fills up every summer.
1:49:13
SPEAKER_02: They're your summertime band.
1:49:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:49:17
SPEAKER_00: It is crazy that the brand is now all that matters.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, I really don't feel like who is standing on that stage more and more matters.
1:49:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, let's talk Journey.
1:49:29
SPEAKER_00: Journey is another one, yeah.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_02: They're out there,
1:49:33
SPEAKER_02: they're playing,
1:49:34
SPEAKER_02: they're going to play the, I think they're going to play the United Center here.
1:49:41
SPEAKER_00: But when their tour ends, whenever that, that's the end of this year, right?
1:49:45
SPEAKER_00: Their tour's ending.
1:49:46
SPEAKER_00: And that's when Jonathan Cain's leaving.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:49:50
SPEAKER_00: So it'll just be Neil Sean.
1:49:53
SPEAKER_00: And quite honestly,
1:49:54
SPEAKER_00: Neil's not the kind of charismatic guy that's going to be like,
1:49:58
SPEAKER_00: if he wasn't there, that it can't be Journey.
1:50:01
SPEAKER_00: And again,
1:50:02
SPEAKER_00: I think some of these guys are just like a Neil Sean who I don't know
1:50:06
SPEAKER_00: if he has money problems or he doesn't,
1:50:08
SPEAKER_00: but assuming from the lawsuits where he's using banned money to pay for his cars
1:50:14
SPEAKER_00: or whatever.
1:50:15
SPEAKER_02: I just think he burns through money as soon as he gets it.
1:50:18
SPEAKER_00: He may.
1:50:19
SPEAKER_00: And that's probably true.
1:50:21
SPEAKER_00: But if he can get paid to not be out on the road, he might take that.
1:50:26
SPEAKER_02: Unless he actually still enjoys performing.
1:50:28
SPEAKER_00: Well, he could stop in
1:50:29
SPEAKER_03: whenever he wants
1:50:30
SPEAKER_00: to.
1:50:31
SPEAKER_02: And again,
1:50:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't think a lot of these guys,
1:50:34
SPEAKER_02: and we talked about this before, a lot of it isn't really about the money.
1:50:39
SPEAKER_02: It's they don't know what else to do.
1:50:41
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
1:50:43
SPEAKER_00: They want to have the mythical die on stage thing.
1:50:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they just want, they still want to play.
1:50:49
SPEAKER_02: They've been famous all their lives.
1:50:50
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
1:50:55
SPEAKER_02: They perform.
1:50:57
SPEAKER_02: And then what are you going to do?
1:50:58
SPEAKER_02: Sit at home and what?
1:50:59
SPEAKER_02: Garden now?
1:51:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I agree.
1:51:02
SPEAKER_02: And it's just like, I got to get out on stage.
1:51:05
SPEAKER_02: I got to scratch that itch.
1:51:08
SPEAKER_02: I got to play.
1:51:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm taking a beating in the chat room.
1:51:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh, what happened now?
1:51:14
SPEAKER_00: Shelly, you're 100% correct.
1:51:15
SPEAKER_00: Chris has lost his goddamn mind.
1:51:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but she's a hardcore, though.
1:51:23
SPEAKER_02: That's what I mean.
1:51:24
SPEAKER_02: See, the thing that Chris is hitting on,
1:51:28
SPEAKER_02: at least what I think, is that the hardcore fans won't accept it.
1:51:34
SPEAKER_02: The old fans.
1:51:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but the general public who are not invested in the band, they'll accept it.
1:51:44
SPEAKER_00: And I certainly think older versus younger is a thing.
1:51:48
SPEAKER_00: True.
1:51:49
SPEAKER_00: I think the younger fans don't give a shit.
1:51:52
SPEAKER_02: They don't.
1:51:53
SPEAKER_02: They just know the name.
1:51:55
SPEAKER_02: I heard my parents' records.
1:51:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm coming out to hear playing some songs that I grew up on.
1:52:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:52:05
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, they want to hear You Got Another Thing Coming.
1:52:10
SPEAKER_00: They don't give a shit if it's Rob Halford or if it's Ripper Owens or
1:52:16
SPEAKER_00: if it's some other kid that we've never even heard of before.
1:52:19
SPEAKER_00: They don't care.
1:52:21
SPEAKER_00: All they want to know is, all they want to hear is those songs.
1:52:25
SPEAKER_00: And I truly,
1:52:26
SPEAKER_00: truly think that,
1:52:28
SPEAKER_00: especially the way that we're,
1:52:30
SPEAKER_00: and again, I'm mishmashing a lot of shit into this thought.
1:52:35
SPEAKER_00: I think the way That everything is turning into music or what music is turning
1:52:43
SPEAKER_00: into shit like The Sphere and shit like that,
1:52:47
SPEAKER_00: where it's now becoming a production, not a concert.
1:52:51
SPEAKER_00: I think all of that's coming into play.
1:52:54
SPEAKER_00: Kiss and ABBA doing the Avatar thing where there's no original members and there's no members.
1:53:01
SPEAKER_00: You know, there's no members, but the guys are still going to get paid.
1:53:05
SPEAKER_00: People are seeing this shit.
1:53:08
SPEAKER_00: Don't think that these people aren't watching Metallica,
1:53:11
SPEAKER_00: who is a shell of the old Metallica,
1:53:13
SPEAKER_00: and they are getting just fucking trounced online for these sphere shows.
1:53:20
SPEAKER_00: But don't think that people that are in the business,
1:53:23
SPEAKER_00: the management people,
1:53:24
SPEAKER_00: the people,
1:53:25
SPEAKER_00: the money people, don't think that they're not looking at this and going, hmm.
1:53:30
SPEAKER_00: We can charge anywhere from $500 to $10,000 a ticket and people will pay it.
1:53:37
SPEAKER_00: They're looking at that and they're thinking, well, you know what?
1:53:41
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we can't charge $10,000 for rat,
1:53:46
SPEAKER_00: but if you put together a lineup that sounds pretty good,
1:53:50
SPEAKER_00: we might be able to charge $500 and sell 1,000 seats or 2,000 seats or whatever.
1:53:58
SPEAKER_00: The money people are thinking this.
1:54:01
SPEAKER_02: In my opinion, that's... Well, Kiss has already been thinking this.
1:54:07
SPEAKER_02: They made that announcement that Kiss will go on without original members.
1:54:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:54:13
SPEAKER_00: And I'm surprised that they actually settled back to the Avatar thing.
1:54:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm actually stunned that we have not seen Kiss with a new...
1:54:25
SPEAKER_00: With four guys,
1:54:27
SPEAKER_00: or maybe you keep Tommy and Eric,
1:54:31
SPEAKER_00: but two new guys, and just going by their character names.
1:54:36
SPEAKER_00: This now is the Starchild.
1:54:38
SPEAKER_00: This now is the Demon.
1:54:41
SPEAKER_00: You know,
1:54:42
SPEAKER_00: they already call Eric Singer the Catman,
1:54:45
SPEAKER_00: and they call Thayer, you know, the Spaceman.
1:54:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm stunned that they have not done that, but, you know.
1:54:55
SPEAKER_00: It really is.
1:54:56
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
1:54:57
SPEAKER_00: I guess it's sad in a way, but for me personally, I'm like, fine, whatever.
1:55:02
SPEAKER_00: I just want to hear the songs anymore.
1:55:05
SPEAKER_00: I'd rather hear the songs perform well.
1:55:07
SPEAKER_00: I almost honestly don't give a shit who's doing them.
1:55:10
SPEAKER_00: I really don't.
1:55:11
SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
1:55:13
SPEAKER_00: And again, a part of that is because I don't go to a ton of shows anymore.
1:55:18
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, maybe it would.
1:55:20
SPEAKER_00: Do you think it would matter more if I went to a lot of shows like I used to?
1:55:25
SPEAKER_00: If I was going to two shows a week like the old days,
1:55:29
SPEAKER_00: do you think that I would probably have a different opinion?
1:55:32
SPEAKER_00: It's hard to tell.
1:55:33
SPEAKER_02: Again,
1:55:34
SPEAKER_02: I just relate this to because music was such a huge part of our day-to-day existence
1:55:43
SPEAKER_02: and how you adopted your favorite band and you adopted your favorite musician,
1:55:51
SPEAKER_02: whether it was You know, if you were a drummer, you know, oh my God, Neil Peart.
1:55:57
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you know, this guy is God, you know, or whatever.
1:56:01
SPEAKER_02: Or Tommy Lee.
1:56:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh my God, look at the, you know, up there.
1:56:04
SPEAKER_02: He's just pounding those skins and geez, he's the best drummer I've ever seen.
1:56:09
SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
1:56:11
SPEAKER_02: you got excited about that kind of stuff because you related to these individuals.
1:56:17
SPEAKER_02: And like you said, the younger people, They don't know anything about these guys.
1:56:22
SPEAKER_00: No.
1:56:22
SPEAKER_00: And even if they do, I don't think they care.
1:56:25
SPEAKER_02: No, they don't.
1:56:27
SPEAKER_00: I think you could put together four new guys,
1:56:29
SPEAKER_00: call it Van Halen, and if it was endorsed, people would go see it.
1:56:34
SPEAKER_00: I really, really do.
1:56:36
SPEAKER_00: If you put together some ridiculously
1:56:40
SPEAKER_00: great shredder guy on guitar that sort of,
1:56:45
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:56:45
SPEAKER_00: and you paint his guitars with the stripes and whatever, so it's Van Halen.
1:56:49
SPEAKER_00: Van Halen symbolism.
1:56:52
SPEAKER_00: And you put out there a guy that looks like David Lee Roth from 1983.
1:56:55
SPEAKER_00: You put out there a bassist that looks like me.
1:57:00
SPEAKER_00: And you put out there a drummer behind a huge kit.
1:57:05
SPEAKER_00: Maybe put a neck brace on him so he looks more like Alex.
1:57:09
SPEAKER_00: Then you're good.
1:57:10
SPEAKER_00: I honestly think,
1:57:11
SPEAKER_00: I don't think at first,
1:57:13
SPEAKER_00: just like Foreigner or Journey,
1:57:14
SPEAKER_00: when Journey,
1:57:16
SPEAKER_00: me and you went and saw Journey, when they first played the first round with Augiri.
1:57:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:57:22
SPEAKER_00: And we saw him at the Convocation Center, I believe.
1:57:26
SPEAKER_02: No, was it Rhodes Arena?
1:57:28
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it was Rhodes.
1:57:29
SPEAKER_00: I thought it was the Convo, but they pulled the curtain way, way up.
1:57:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that might have been that.
1:57:34
SPEAKER_02: I know it was either Rhodes Arena or the Convocation Center.
1:57:38
SPEAKER_00: I think it was the Convo, but they like, Curtained off more than half of the room.
1:57:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was Peter Frampton and...
1:57:46
SPEAKER_00: Badding, not bad English, John Waite.
1:57:48
SPEAKER_02: John Waite and Journey.
1:57:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and we went to that show and there was like 1,500 people probably or 2,000 or whatever.
1:57:57
SPEAKER_00: It was small.
1:57:58
SPEAKER_00: They had to rebuild, but they did rebuild.
1:58:03
SPEAKER_00: Shit, me and you went and saw Foreigner at what?
1:58:06
SPEAKER_00: Was that at the Agora?
1:58:09
SPEAKER_00: I think?
1:58:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you went the night after they were here in Chicago.
1:58:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, me and you went together when Jason Bonham was in the band.
1:58:18
SPEAKER_02: No, I think that was Long Haired Mike.
1:58:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:58:22
SPEAKER_00: I thought you were with me on
1:58:23
SPEAKER_02: that one.
1:58:23
SPEAKER_02: No, I wasn't with you on that one.
1:58:25
SPEAKER_00: With the free water, woo!
1:58:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:58:27
SPEAKER_02: No, I wasn't at that show, but I was at the show like the night before.
1:58:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:58:32
SPEAKER_00: But you saw it.
1:58:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you saw it in a small room.
1:58:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Jeff Pilsen invited me out and I went to the show.
1:58:41
SPEAKER_00: But it was a small show.
1:58:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was with Styx and Foreigner.
1:58:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it was probably, what, 2,000 people maybe?
1:58:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something.
1:58:50
SPEAKER_00: And now they're a shed band.
1:58:54
SPEAKER_00: Now they have nobody that anybody even knows their name.
1:58:56
SPEAKER_00: The only name we know is Jeff Pilsen.
1:59:00
SPEAKER_00: Louie Maldonado.
1:59:01
SPEAKER_00: I know that name.
1:59:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't know him from any kind of performance.
1:59:06
SPEAKER_00: I just know it because he's out there instead of Lou Graham.
1:59:09
SPEAKER_00: But people don't care.
1:59:11
SPEAKER_00: All they care is that it says foreigner in the background and
1:59:14
SPEAKER_00: a big fucking jukebox picture shows up on the screen.
1:59:18
SPEAKER_00: And they're like, yeah!
1:59:20
SPEAKER_00: Urgent!
1:59:21
SPEAKER_00: Woo!
1:59:25
SPEAKER_00: They don't care.
1:59:26
SPEAKER_00: I think bands do not care anymore.
1:59:29
SPEAKER_00: I think it is all about the brand.
1:59:31
SPEAKER_00: You mean fans?
1:59:34
SPEAKER_00: No, I mean brand.
1:59:35
SPEAKER_00: It's all about the brand.
1:59:37
SPEAKER_02: No, what I said, I thought what you said, that the fans don't care anymore.
1:59:44
SPEAKER_00: No, the band doesn't matter.
1:59:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh, the band doesn't matter?
1:59:47
SPEAKER_00: I may have misspoke.
1:59:49
SPEAKER_00: The band doesn't matter anymore.
1:59:52
SPEAKER_00: All that matters is the brand.
1:59:53
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
1:59:55
SPEAKER_00: I think we're at that point.
1:59:58
SPEAKER_00: And maybe that is a little sad,
1:59:59
SPEAKER_00: but I guess the flip side of that is it may be sad,
2:00:03
SPEAKER_00: but more than likely we're going to get better music from all of these guys.
2:00:08
SPEAKER_00: Because it's not going to be a bunch of 70 and 80 year old dudes trying
2:00:13
SPEAKER_00: to sing Frankie Valli tunes or whatever.
2:00:16
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:00:17
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think that's where we're at.
2:00:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, since we're talking about that, let's do a prime example of would this be acceptable?
2:00:29
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:00:30
SPEAKER_02: I just shot you over an email.
2:00:32
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:00:33
SPEAKER_02: Our good friend Jerry Kogel sent this over.
2:00:37
SPEAKER_02: He says, hi, Neely.
2:00:38
SPEAKER_02: Hope your week was good.
2:00:40
SPEAKER_02: To be honest, I don't know if you and Chris may have seen this video cover.
2:00:44
SPEAKER_02: Or if it's ever resurfaced on the show,
2:00:47
SPEAKER_02: but I came across it with the last couple of days
2:00:49
SPEAKER_02: and thought it was pretty damn good, especially the lead out.
2:00:53
SPEAKER_02: See you at the show tonight, brother.
2:00:55
SPEAKER_02: The CMS rocks, Jerry.
2:00:58
SPEAKER_02: So playing this,
2:01:00
SPEAKER_02: would people accept this as Jefferson Starship if they went out
2:01:06
SPEAKER_02: as Jefferson Starship with this lineup?
2:01:09
SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
2:01:16
SPEAKER_00: Let me hit the volume.
2:01:18
SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
2:01:23
SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is that COVID thing, yeah.
2:01:25
[music]
2:02:06
SPEAKER_00: it's Jefferson Whitesnake.
2:02:08
SPEAKER_00: I get it, but it's fine.
2:02:10
SPEAKER_02: But would that pass as Jefferson Starship?
2:02:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:02:15
SPEAKER_03: Why not?
2:02:16
SPEAKER_02: No original members.
2:02:17
SPEAKER_00: No, this is an all-star band.
2:02:19
SPEAKER_00: It's Dino Jelucic and Mike Portnoy and...
2:02:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:02:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:02:26
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
2:02:27
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
2:02:28
SPEAKER_02: They could go out and be Starship or Jefferson Starship.
2:02:31
SPEAKER_00: Why not?
2:02:33
SPEAKER_00: I'd like to hear Dino sing in Sarah.
2:02:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:02:37
SPEAKER_00: Or anything from Nuclear Furniture.
2:02:39
SPEAKER_02: I like that Jefferson Whitesnake.
2:02:42
SPEAKER_00: That's what it sounds like.
2:02:44
SPEAKER_00: He's another one.
2:02:45
SPEAKER_00: If you put back the last episode, I mean,
2:02:47
SPEAKER_00: the last version of Whitesnake was David Coverdale and a whole bunch of people,
2:02:50
SPEAKER_00: and I think a lot of people would love to hear Dino fronting it.
2:02:55
SPEAKER_02: Do you think David Coverdale will ever give them the nod to go out as Whitesnake?
2:03:00
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
2:03:01
SPEAKER_00: He shut it down as the Whitesnake Experience.
2:03:04
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:03:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they were going to do the Whitesnake Experience with Jalusic singing,
2:03:09
SPEAKER_00: and Coverdale's people shut that right down.
2:03:13
SPEAKER_00: He wants to be retired.
2:03:15
SPEAKER_00: His animal to be retired.
2:03:17
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:03:20
SPEAKER_00: Which I still think they should go out there and call it Dino and Friends
2:03:23
SPEAKER_00: or former members of Whitesnake or whatever.
2:03:27
SPEAKER_00: You know, just give it a name.
2:03:28
SPEAKER_00: Slide it in or something and fucking go.
2:03:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, I would love to see that, honestly.
2:03:38
SPEAKER_00: I would love to see this Jefferson Starship.
2:03:40
SPEAKER_00: Dude, honestly, this Jefferson Starship here?
2:03:45
SPEAKER_00: Way better than the actual Jefferson Starship that's actually touring.
2:03:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because, you know, Mickey Thomas is getting kind of long in the tooth.
2:03:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:03:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's an old white-haired guy.
2:03:55
SPEAKER_00: He sounds real good, but the...
2:03:58
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it isn't Jefferson.
2:03:59
SPEAKER_00: What is the one that's out there now?
2:04:01
SPEAKER_00: The Jefferson Airplane?
2:04:03
SPEAKER_02: It's just Starship.
2:04:04
SPEAKER_00: But there is like a Jefferson Airplane or something that's out there as well.
2:04:07
SPEAKER_02: Yes, there is.
2:04:08
SPEAKER_02: And it's like one guy from Jefferson.
2:04:12
SPEAKER_02: And I don't think he was like, I don't even think.
2:04:14
SPEAKER_02: He's not an original.
2:04:15
SPEAKER_02: He's not an original.
2:04:16
SPEAKER_02: He was one of the replacement players,
2:04:19
SPEAKER_02: but somehow he got the go ahead to use Jefferson Airplane or Starship
2:04:24
SPEAKER_02: or whatever it is.
2:04:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, whatever it is.
2:04:26
SPEAKER_00: And he was out there with.
2:04:27
SPEAKER_00: All new people.
2:04:29
SPEAKER_02: And then Mickey Thomas is out there still doing Starship.
2:04:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's out there doing Starship and people are still going.
2:04:36
SPEAKER_00: Coming to a state fair near you.
2:04:40
SPEAKER_00: Which is still making them bank.
2:04:43
SPEAKER_03: It does.
2:04:44
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that is truly the draw.
2:04:48
SPEAKER_00: It is still making them bank.
2:04:50
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, I think we've finally hit it, man.
2:04:55
SPEAKER_00: I think we've hit the...
2:04:57
SPEAKER_00: We're starting to fall down the other side of the mountain now.
2:05:01
SPEAKER_00: Everything we grew to love is dead.
2:05:06
SPEAKER_00: Everything.
2:05:08
SPEAKER_00: Bands are dead.
2:05:10
SPEAKER_00: Movies are dead.
2:05:12
SPEAKER_00: TV is dead.
2:05:15
SPEAKER_00: Entertainment is dead.
2:05:17
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
2:05:19
SPEAKER_00: I guess that is sad.
2:05:21
SPEAKER_00: The whole time I've been saying, that's not sad.
2:05:23
SPEAKER_00: It's great.
2:05:23
SPEAKER_00: Now I'm like, oh man, that fucking sucks.
2:05:28
SPEAKER_03: Well, let's hear a little more of this.
2:05:29
SPEAKER_03: All right, let me put it back on the screen.
2:05:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
2:05:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh, here we
2:05:32
[music]
2:06:18
[music]
2:06:34
That is really good, man.
2:06:37
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
2:06:38
SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Jerry.
2:06:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Gio Jalusic is fucking so awesome.
2:06:43
SPEAKER_02: And I, you know, got to know Joel Holkstra a little bit.
2:06:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:06:47
SPEAKER_02: That guy's a nice guy, man.
2:06:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he is.
2:06:50
SPEAKER_02: He's really nice.
2:06:51
SPEAKER_02: Friendly.
2:06:52
SPEAKER_02: Just a good player, just a good dude.
2:06:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:06:56
SPEAKER_00: I wonder, though, is Dino, what do you think about this?
2:07:00
SPEAKER_03: Is Dino,
2:07:01
SPEAKER_03: because he was in Whitesnake,
2:07:05
SPEAKER_03: and he wasn't the singer, so maybe this doesn't work as well, but.
2:07:08
SPEAKER_00: I think he personally is the best rock male singer out there today.
2:07:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's fucking phenomenal as a singer.
2:07:21
SPEAKER_00: Is he falling right into that trap, though,
2:07:24
SPEAKER_00: of Ronnie Romero,
2:07:26
SPEAKER_00: Doogie White,
2:07:28
SPEAKER_00: where because he's done a lot of things and been in bigger bands, he's tied to that.
2:07:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, he wasn't even the singer in Whitesnake.
2:07:38
SPEAKER_00: Officially.
2:07:39
SPEAKER_00: I mean, lots of rumors that he might have been singing, but he was never officially the singer.
2:07:46
SPEAKER_00: He was the keyboard player.
2:07:49
SPEAKER_00: Is he doomed now that he can't break out because he's always the Whitesnake guy?
2:07:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but is there a business to break out in?
2:07:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know.
2:08:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's no business anymore.
2:08:04
SPEAKER_02: It's not like he could be signed to a label or anything else.
2:08:08
SPEAKER_00: What about when Quiet Riot brings this all back, as I've been reading all week?
2:08:13
SPEAKER_00: Brings it all back to where?
2:08:16
SPEAKER_00: When they bring hair metal back to prominence,
2:08:20
SPEAKER_00: as I've been told all week is going to happen with John Tora.
2:08:23
SPEAKER_00: Once that happens, do you think Dino Jalusic has a place in that?
2:08:28
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:08:29
SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
2:08:32
SPEAKER_02: But we're all banking on John to bring it back around.
2:08:36
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
2:08:36
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
2:08:37
SPEAKER_00: We're just waiting now.
2:08:38
SPEAKER_00: It's going to happen.
2:08:40
SPEAKER_02: So Dino's career hangs in the balance.
2:08:43
SPEAKER_00: Of John Torre, yes.
2:08:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
2:08:45
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's career does.
2:08:47
SPEAKER_02: So Dino is just sitting in the background just going, get out there and do it, fat boy.
2:08:52
SPEAKER_02: He's cheering for him.
2:08:54
SPEAKER_02: And I don't appreciate the fat boy.
2:08:56
SPEAKER_02: We're not allowed to say that anymore.
2:08:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm saying it.
2:08:59
SPEAKER_02: Get out there and do it, fat boy.
2:09:01
SPEAKER_02: You know, large boned person.
2:09:05
SPEAKER_02: I need the money.
2:09:06
SPEAKER_02: Just get my career on track, will you?
2:09:09
SPEAKER_02: We're all dependent on you.
2:09:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:09:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, what a week.
2:09:20
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:09:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's it for Judas Priest, I guess.
2:09:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:09:25
SPEAKER_00: If you're into them, go.
2:09:29
SPEAKER_00: At least you have options now.
2:09:30
SPEAKER_00: You can go see Judas Priest or you can see KK's Priest.
2:09:33
SPEAKER_02: I'll go see KK any day.
2:09:34
SPEAKER_00: Pick your poison, people.
2:09:37
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm going to go see KK's Priest on Thursday, apparently.
2:09:42
SPEAKER_02: Compliments of Matt from Cincinnati.
2:09:44
SPEAKER_03: Yes, thank you so much, Matt.
2:09:46
SPEAKER_03: I really do appreciate that.
2:09:48
SPEAKER_03: It was really good.
2:09:50
SPEAKER_02: All right, well, before we take a break,
2:09:54
SPEAKER_02: We have a little bit of a contest going on over at our locals.
2:09:58
SPEAKER_02: So why don't you tell them about it, Chris?
2:10:00
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll tell you what I know.
2:10:01
SPEAKER_00: It was set up by Virtual Rex.
2:10:03
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't set up by me.
2:10:06
SPEAKER_00: Other than giving it some bare bones ideas, it put it all together for me.
2:10:12
SPEAKER_00: Basically, if you are a local subscriber, we were gifted a copy of the
2:10:20
SPEAKER_00: Upcoming release from Dangerous Toys, the reissue of the 1989 debut record, or CD, rather.
2:10:28
SPEAKER_00: We've got a CD.
2:10:29
SPEAKER_00: It's a two-disc set.
2:10:31
SPEAKER_00: It has the original release,
2:10:34
SPEAKER_00: and it also has a live show, I think, from 1989, so right in the era.
2:10:38
SPEAKER_00: It has new pictures and a bunch of new stuff, new liners, I'm sure, and all that stuff.
2:10:45
SPEAKER_00: It's unopened, so I didn't even open it.
2:10:47
SPEAKER_00: I just was like, this would be a good A good one to give away.
2:10:50
SPEAKER_00: We always talk about that we're going to do gives on locals and we haven't.
2:10:54
SPEAKER_00: So here's how it's going to work.
2:10:57
SPEAKER_00: If you go to our locals page and you leave a comment with your favorite song from
2:11:04
SPEAKER_00: the first Dangerous Toys record and you give us a reason why,
2:11:07
SPEAKER_00: can't just say, I like Spartan Woody.
2:11:10
SPEAKER_00: You know, got to give us a reason.
2:11:11
SPEAKER_00: Why do you like it?
2:11:12
SPEAKER_00: You like it because it makes your dick hard or whatever, you know.
2:11:16
SPEAKER_00: Give us a reason, whatever.
2:11:18
SPEAKER_00: And then on November 13th,
2:11:21
SPEAKER_00: Virtual Rex is going to go in there and look at all the people and it's going
2:11:25
SPEAKER_00: to pick one at random and that person is going to win this copy of
2:11:30
SPEAKER_00: the Dangerous Toys reissue.
2:11:32
SPEAKER_00: So it's a nice little package.
2:11:34
SPEAKER_00: It really is pretty nice.
2:11:35
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, thank you to our publicist, Chip Ruggieri for sending that to me.
2:11:43
SPEAKER_00: Very much appreciate that.
2:11:45
SPEAKER_00: And We'll hook the fans up.
2:11:46
SPEAKER_00: That'll be good.
2:11:48
SPEAKER_02: Excellent.
2:11:49
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:11:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, go over to the locals today and leave your comment over there.
2:11:54
SPEAKER_03: Leave your comment.
2:11:55
SPEAKER_03: Let's go.
2:11:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, since you mentioned dangerous toys,
2:12:02
SPEAKER_02: John Phillips in the Fast Pass, he did request Sport and Woody.
2:12:08
SPEAKER_03: Of course he did.
2:12:11
SPEAKER_02: So maybe the rest of you will Sport Woody's too when you hear this.
2:12:16
SPEAKER_02: Or if you win the CD.
2:12:18
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
2:12:20
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:12:20
SPEAKER_02: Well, let's get into some tunes here.
2:12:22
SPEAKER_02: Here it is.
2:12:23
SPEAKER_02: It's Dangerous Toys with Sport and Woody for John Phillips exclusively here.
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2:13:54
SPEAKER_02: It's Wasp right here on your classic metal show with the mean motherfucking man.
2:14:00
SPEAKER_02: A song that Blackie claims he wrote about Chris Holmes.
2:14:06
SPEAKER_03: Does he still play it?
2:14:09
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:14:09
SPEAKER_03: No, of course not.
2:14:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:14:12
SPEAKER_02: Chris Holmes and Blackie are not on good terms.
2:14:16
SPEAKER_02: It's unfortunate because that song is so great.
2:14:19
SPEAKER_02: It is.
2:14:20
SPEAKER_02: But that one goes out to my nephew, James.
2:14:24
SPEAKER_02: ACDC in there with Little Lover for the Winter Steel.
2:14:28
SPEAKER_02: Rose Tattoo with the Departed Angry Anderson, Man About Town for Roger.
2:14:35
SPEAKER_02: Whitford St. Holmes in there with Sharpshooter.
2:14:39
SPEAKER_02: Sabotage, Strange Wings for Jackal.
2:14:44
SPEAKER_02: Oda with Power of Love for Skippy.
2:14:46
SPEAKER_02: And kicking off that block, we heard Starcrawler with On To You for Floyd Gundoli.
2:14:53
SPEAKER_03: Well, that was a segment.
2:14:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's quite a block there.
2:14:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was.
2:14:58
SPEAKER_02: We've got quite a sampling of various genres of hard rock and metal tonight.
2:15:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we have.
2:15:07
SPEAKER_02: Pretty good.
2:15:08
SPEAKER_03: All over the map.
2:15:09
SPEAKER_02: Pretty good.
2:15:11
SPEAKER_02: Yep, yep.
2:15:12
SPEAKER_02: Guys and gals have done a great job tonight.
2:15:16
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:15:17
SPEAKER_02: So do you have anything in particular?
2:15:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:15:20
SPEAKER_03: Okay, go ahead.
2:15:21
SPEAKER_03: We have to hit the Aerosmith.
2:15:23
SPEAKER_02: Yes, of course.
2:15:24
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's the big stuff.
2:15:26
SPEAKER_03: I say it's the number two.
2:15:28
SPEAKER_03: Might be the number one.
2:15:30
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
2:15:31
SPEAKER_03: It's a busy week this week with stuff.
2:15:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:15:35
SPEAKER_03: Obviously,
2:15:36
SPEAKER_03: they announced Aerosmith to return to the live stage for two exclusive nights at
2:15:40
SPEAKER_03: the Hollywood Bowl.
2:15:42
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:15:43
SPEAKER_03: But it's Aerosmith and Friends.
2:15:45
SPEAKER_03: It's not Aerosmith only.
2:15:49
SPEAKER_03: I don't know about you, but I'm not.
2:15:52
SPEAKER_03: It's the weirdest thing.
2:15:55
SPEAKER_03: Clearly, clearly, they saw the Aussie thing and how successful it was.
2:16:01
SPEAKER_03: And they talked these guys into doing this.
2:16:04
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:16:05
SPEAKER_03: Very clearly.
2:16:08
SPEAKER_03: I don't know how I feel about this one yet.
2:16:09
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
2:16:10
SPEAKER_03: What are you thinking?
2:16:11
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's two nights.
2:16:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, what's surprising to me is that it was announced on such short notice.
2:16:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:16:20
SPEAKER_02: Because it just got announced this week, and this is happening in what, like three weeks?
2:16:25
SPEAKER_03: October 29th and November 1st.
2:16:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:16:27
SPEAKER_02: So basically two and a half, three weeks.
2:16:31
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
2:16:32
SPEAKER_02: So it just got announced.
2:16:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know,
2:16:35
SPEAKER_02: and again,
2:16:36
SPEAKER_02: It's Aerosmith, and there's a cavalcade of people involved with this thing.
2:16:41
SPEAKER_03: This is where I have an issue.
2:16:44
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
2:16:45
SPEAKER_03: I'll read you the names.
2:16:46
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:16:48
SPEAKER_03: Black Crows,
2:16:50
SPEAKER_03: Run DMC, Hart,
2:16:52
SPEAKER_03: Andrew Watt,
2:16:53
SPEAKER_03: Billy Idol,
2:16:54
SPEAKER_03: Chad Smith,
2:16:56
SPEAKER_03: Duff McKagan,
2:16:57
SPEAKER_03: Eric Church,
2:16:58
SPEAKER_03: Jerry Cantrell,
2:16:59
SPEAKER_03: Marcus King,
2:17:01
SPEAKER_03: Mike Inez,
2:17:02
SPEAKER_03: Nuno Betancourt,
2:17:04
SPEAKER_03: Pat Monaghan,
2:17:06
SPEAKER_03: Sammy Hagar, Slash,
2:17:07
SPEAKER_03: Steve Stevens,
2:17:08
SPEAKER_03: Sully Ernov,
2:17:09
SPEAKER_03: Godsmack,
2:17:11
SPEAKER_03: Tom Morello, again,
2:17:12
SPEAKER_03: with his fucking bullshit,
2:17:15
SPEAKER_03: Adam Wakeman, all oddly freed, Kenny Aronoff,
2:17:24
SPEAKER_03: and Don Was as the musical director.
2:17:29
SPEAKER_03: Some of this makes sense to me.
2:17:32
SPEAKER_03: If this is an Aerosmith going away party,
2:17:37
SPEAKER_02: Does it say that, though?
2:17:38
SPEAKER_03: It does not say that.
2:17:40
SPEAKER_03: I'm just throwing something out there.
2:17:44
SPEAKER_03: If it's a going-away party, some of this makes sense.
2:17:48
SPEAKER_03: It makes sense that Run-DMC would be on it.
2:17:54
SPEAKER_03: They did something with Slash, right?
2:17:56
SPEAKER_03: Like the Super Bowl or something?
2:17:59
SPEAKER_03: Not really sure.
2:18:01
SPEAKER_02: All I know is that Guns N' Roses opened for Aerosmith.
2:18:09
SPEAKER_03: It could be that.
2:18:11
SPEAKER_03: Allison Chains, did they open for them?
2:18:15
SPEAKER_02: They may have in the 90s.
2:18:19
SPEAKER_03: I have more issue with, quite frankly, I'm tired of seeing Tom Morello.
2:18:25
SPEAKER_03: You know, every time there's one of these things, they include him.
2:18:29
SPEAKER_03: And quite frankly, most people that are into Aerosmith do not like Tom Morello.
2:18:35
SPEAKER_03: They just don't.
2:18:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's one era against another era.
2:18:40
SPEAKER_02: And Tom Morello obviously is a big left tard.
2:18:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, I mean, his politics are his politics.
2:18:47
SPEAKER_03: It's not about that.
2:18:48
SPEAKER_03: It's about when you think of Aerosmith,
2:18:51
SPEAKER_00: you don't think of Rage Against the Machine.
2:18:53
SPEAKER_00: True.
2:18:53
SPEAKER_00: And vice versa.
2:18:55
SPEAKER_00: He's only there because he's become
2:18:57
SPEAKER_03: one of those fucking guys.
2:18:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm really surprised I don't see Wolfgang Van Halen's name on this, honestly.
2:19:03
SPEAKER_02: That is true.
2:19:05
SPEAKER_03: You know, that's the one that surprised me that he's not on it.
2:19:11
SPEAKER_03: What does Sammy Hagar have to do with Aerosmith?
2:19:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, Sammy's been around a long time,
2:19:20
SPEAKER_02: and I don't know if Sammy has any relation with Aerosmith going all the way back to
2:19:25
SPEAKER_02: the Montrose days.
2:19:28
SPEAKER_03: There's not a recognizable thing, though.
2:19:30
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:19:30
SPEAKER_03: Like Run DMC makes sense.
2:19:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because of their bringing in Aerosmith back from the dead,
2:19:37
SPEAKER_02: more or less, with the Walk This Way collaboration thing.
2:19:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:19:41
SPEAKER_03: What does Pat Monaghan of Train have to do with Aerosmith?
2:19:47
SPEAKER_02: Well, what does Black Crowes have to do with Aerosmith?
2:19:52
SPEAKER_03: And again, I'm reaching here, and I could be wrong.
2:19:56
SPEAKER_03: Weren't the Black Crows supposed to be the opener on that tour that got canceled?
2:20:03
SPEAKER_03: I thought it was.
2:20:05
SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
2:20:05
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
2:20:06
SPEAKER_02: I could
2:20:08
SPEAKER_02: be wrong on that.
2:20:09
SPEAKER_02: You mean the one just recently?
2:20:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:20:12
SPEAKER_02: Within the last two years, the whole farewell thing?
2:20:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I thought it was Black Crows were the opener.
2:20:19
SPEAKER_03: I could be wrong.
2:20:19
SPEAKER_03: They may have been.
2:20:20
SPEAKER_02: They may have been.
2:20:21
SPEAKER_03: I could be very wrong on that.
2:20:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:20:25
SPEAKER_03: Andrew Watt.
2:20:28
SPEAKER_03: Another one.
2:20:28
SPEAKER_03: There's just a lot of these names that I'm sick of seeing at every
2:20:32
SPEAKER_00: fucking thing.
2:20:33
SPEAKER_00: Like they're literally like the Hollywood douchebag that shows up at every awards ceremony.
2:20:42
SPEAKER_02: Do they share management?
2:20:44
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm sure they probably do.
2:20:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure they probably do.
2:20:48
SPEAKER_03: But Andrew Watt, most people...
2:20:52
SPEAKER_02: Who is that?
2:20:53
SPEAKER_03: He's the guy that did guitars and produced the last two Ozzy records.
2:20:58
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
2:20:59
SPEAKER_02: He was also in,
2:21:01
SPEAKER_03: not Black Country Communion,
2:21:03
SPEAKER_03: but whatever that other side thing was that Glenn Hughes did.
2:21:05
SPEAKER_03: California Breed.
2:21:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:21:08
SPEAKER_03: He was the guitar player in that as well.
2:21:10
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:21:10
SPEAKER_03: But he's just another one of these guys.
2:21:13
SPEAKER_03: Same with Nuno Betancourt.
2:21:15
SPEAKER_03: Nuno Betancourt, I know he has a friendship with Steven Tyler.
2:21:19
SPEAKER_03: I get that because...
2:21:21
SPEAKER_03: He's played with Steven Tyler.
2:21:23
SPEAKER_03: They're Boston boys.
2:21:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:21:25
SPEAKER_03: But Nuno is another one of these guys.
2:21:29
SPEAKER_03: He just is in all this bullshit.
2:21:32
SPEAKER_02: He's a big session guy.
2:21:34
SPEAKER_02: He plays for everybody.
2:21:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:21:38
SPEAKER_02: You know, our good friend John Levin just worships Nuno.
2:21:43
SPEAKER_03: Dude, I think he's a great guitar player.
2:21:45
SPEAKER_03: I don't like him as a guy, but he's a great guitar player.
2:21:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:21:50
SPEAKER_03: But just some of this stuff is like, you know what they're going to do here.
2:21:56
SPEAKER_03: Aerosmith's not going to play 18 songs.
2:21:58
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:21:59
SPEAKER_02: They're going to play like five.
2:22:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, this is what I'm wondering, and finish your thoughts on this whole
2:22:06
SPEAKER_03: thing.
2:22:08
SPEAKER_03: I'm looking at this list and I'm like,
2:22:10
SPEAKER_03: this is going to be one of these mishmashy and friends things where...
2:22:19
SPEAKER_00: You're going to get, well, this guy's going to come out and play guitar on Sweet Emotion.
2:22:26
SPEAKER_00: And this guy's going to sing or co-sing with
2:22:30
SPEAKER_03: Steven Tyler on Dream On.
2:22:32
SPEAKER_03: And it's not going to be what we really want.
2:22:36
SPEAKER_03: Well, okay, go ahead.
2:22:39
SPEAKER_03: No, you go ahead.
2:22:40
SPEAKER_03: I just think it's going to end up being one of these sort
2:22:43
SPEAKER_03: of half-assed tribute things that none of us like.
2:22:49
SPEAKER_03: That's my vibe, is it's going to be that.
2:22:54
SPEAKER_03: And before they even play a note, I can already tell you what this is going to lead to.
2:23:01
SPEAKER_03: Well, now they did this, where's the tour?
2:23:05
SPEAKER_03: Everybody's going to want them to tour.
2:23:09
SPEAKER_03: No matter what they do on this stupid thing.
2:23:11
SPEAKER_03: And I don't think they're going to tour.
2:23:13
SPEAKER_03: I just don't see it happening.
2:23:17
SPEAKER_03: You know,
2:23:17
SPEAKER_03: I don't see Steven being willing to risk it again when he has all the money in
2:23:23
SPEAKER_03: the world and he doesn't need it.
2:23:25
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:23:26
SPEAKER_00: That's my, again, that's my hunch.
2:23:28
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
2:23:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I saw this too, Hardy Boy.
2:23:31
SPEAKER_00: Today it was announced that the full Guns N' Roses will be out there, not just Slash
2:23:36
SPEAKER_03: and Duff.
2:23:37
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
2:23:38
SPEAKER_03: It's great.
2:23:38
SPEAKER_03: We get Mickey Mouse singing.
2:23:41
SPEAKER_03: Jamie, crying or whatever.
2:23:44
SPEAKER_02: Jamie's crying.
2:23:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:23:49
SPEAKER_03: So I don't know.
2:23:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
2:23:52
SPEAKER_03: I want to be excited about it.
2:23:54
SPEAKER_03: I really, really do.
2:23:57
SPEAKER_03: But I'm sort of not.
2:23:58
SPEAKER_03: I see all these names and I'm like,
2:23:59
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to see Billy Idol singing a fucking Aerosmith song.
2:24:06
SPEAKER_03: I don't really want to see Steve Stevens sharing guitars with the Aerosmith guitarists.
2:24:13
SPEAKER_02: I want to see Aerosmith.
2:24:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Joe Perry.
2:24:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:24:18
SPEAKER_03: I want to see Aerosmith.
2:24:21
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to see Kenny Aronoff.
2:24:22
SPEAKER_03: And again,
2:24:22
SPEAKER_03: this is nothing against any of these guys,
2:24:24
SPEAKER_03: except Tom Morello, who I think is a fucking jizz bag.
2:24:28
SPEAKER_00: But all the rest of them, I'm fine with every other name on here that I know.
2:24:34
SPEAKER_00: I don't know who Marcus King is.
2:24:40
SPEAKER_03: Chad Smith from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
2:24:45
SPEAKER_03: Another one of these guys.
2:24:46
SPEAKER_03: He gets the call all the time for this kind of shit.
2:24:51
SPEAKER_03: It's like, it's half the Aussie thing again.
2:24:56
SPEAKER_03: Like how many of these guys played the Aussie thing?
2:25:01
SPEAKER_03: Andrew Watt, I think, I'm pretty sure he did.
2:25:04
SPEAKER_03: Wasn't Billy Idol there?
2:25:05
SPEAKER_03: I think he was.
2:25:08
SPEAKER_03: Certainly the Guns N' Roses guys were there.
2:25:10
SPEAKER_03: Certainly the Alice in Chains guys were there.
2:25:13
SPEAKER_03: Nuno was there.
2:25:14
SPEAKER_03: He was like the music director, him and Morello.
2:25:17
SPEAKER_03: Sammy Hagar was there.
2:25:21
SPEAKER_03: You know, this doesn't feel too special.
2:25:24
SPEAKER_03: I guess that's really what it is to me.
2:25:27
SPEAKER_03: I would have rather seen two 30-minute performances from Aerosmith.
2:25:33
SPEAKER_03: Wouldn't you?
2:25:36
SPEAKER_00: Perhaps.
2:25:37
SPEAKER_00: All right, go ahead.
2:25:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm rambling and rambling.
2:25:39
SPEAKER_00: What are you thinking?
2:25:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, here's what I'm thinking.
2:25:42
SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
2:25:43
SPEAKER_02: Hello?
2:25:44
SPEAKER_02: Hello?
2:26:05
[music]
2:26:13
SPEAKER_01: Good afternoon.
2:26:13
SPEAKER_01: How are you?
2:26:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm good.
2:26:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm just in the middle of an actual confessional church, but I got time.
2:26:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're a church?
2:26:21
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to bother you.
2:26:22
SPEAKER_01: No, it's okay.
2:26:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm not the confessional, but the priest isn't here.
2:26:24
SPEAKER_01: I've been here for like 20 minutes, so I got time.
2:26:27
SPEAKER_01: Okay, real quick.
2:26:28
SPEAKER_01: This is a mortgage.
2:26:30
SPEAKER_01: Now, were you looking to pay off debt or make some home improvements?
2:26:34
SPEAKER_01: Both, actually.
2:26:35
SPEAKER_01: Man, I haven't been in confession for years.
2:26:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know how it works anymore.
2:26:39
SPEAKER_01: Do you?
2:26:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm a little nervous.
2:26:41
SPEAKER_01: Confession?
2:26:42
SPEAKER_01: Excuse me?
2:26:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:26:43
SPEAKER_01: Are you asking me if I know?
2:26:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm just honestly a little stunned.
2:26:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm Catholic.
2:26:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't understand.
2:26:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's not okay.
2:26:53
SPEAKER_01: What's not okay?
2:26:54
SPEAKER_01: You should probably say something about this in your confessions.
2:26:58
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:26:59
SPEAKER_01: Is it a joke to you?
2:27:00
SPEAKER_01: No, I was asking you if you knew.
2:27:02
SPEAKER_01: I haven't been here in a while.
2:27:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm just having a conversation with you.
2:27:05
SPEAKER_01: But why are you asking me is what I'm...
2:27:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm confused.
2:27:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm a little bit taken back.
2:27:11
SPEAKER_01: You're taken back.
2:27:11
SPEAKER_01: And I'm honestly uncomfortable.
2:27:13
SPEAKER_01: I don't think you believe in... Maybe you should leave that church.
2:27:16
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm... You're not a good person.
2:27:19
SPEAKER_01: Why am I not a good person?
2:27:21
SPEAKER_01: I asked you a question.
2:27:22
SPEAKER_01: I don't like this.
2:27:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm asking for advice.
2:27:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm in the confessional right now waiting for the priest.
2:27:27
SPEAKER_01: That's why I just asked you that question.
2:27:29
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
2:27:30
SPEAKER_01: It wasn't out of the brew.
2:27:31
SPEAKER_01: Congratulations.
2:27:32
SPEAKER_01: You're at a church.
2:27:33
SPEAKER_01: There's deacons.
2:27:34
SPEAKER_01: There's everybody around you.
2:27:35
SPEAKER_01: James, you've got to take care of yourself a little bit better.
2:27:37
SPEAKER_01: You can't be in a church and talk like that.
2:27:39
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's why I'm in the confessional.
2:27:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to get better.
2:27:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh, hello?
2:27:44
SPEAKER_01: Hi.
2:27:45
SPEAKER_03: Hi, this is Father Don.
2:27:47
SPEAKER_03: Do you have any sins you'd like to confess, son?
2:27:51
SPEAKER_01: Is using a butt plug a sin?
2:27:53
SPEAKER_01: What I don't know is where does the payday come from?
2:27:57
SPEAKER_01: Because with all of these people on this bill,
2:28:19
SPEAKER_02: Do ticket sales,
2:28:22
SPEAKER_02: and again,
2:28:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what they're paying everybody to be there,
2:28:25
SPEAKER_02: what they're paying them to be there for,
2:28:28
SPEAKER_02: but does ticket sales pay for all of this or is this all in merchandising
2:28:34
SPEAKER_02: or streaming or,
2:28:37
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:28:37
SPEAKER_02: and I'm looking from the business angle,
2:28:41
SPEAKER_02: not from the music fan angle because there's got to be an angle here
2:28:46
SPEAKER_02: to make it worthwhile.
2:28:47
SPEAKER_02: They haven't announced it yet, but I'll bet anything it's going to be streaming.
2:28:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so what do the Aerosmith guys get paid?
2:28:55
SPEAKER_02: What do the Black Crows guys get paid, run DMC and down the line?
2:28:59
SPEAKER_02: Because some of these people are very high-profile people.
2:29:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're not getting slash coming out there and doing it for nothing.
2:29:09
SPEAKER_00: Or full Guns N' Roses.
2:29:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or Nuno Betcourt or any of those things.
2:29:13
SPEAKER_02: Unless, you know,
2:29:15
SPEAKER_02: they're voluntarily doing this as a favor or friend or whatever,
2:29:20
SPEAKER_02: but that's probably not the case.
2:29:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm sure they're all getting paid.
2:29:23
SPEAKER_02: So where does...
2:29:26
SPEAKER_02: This whole thing has to generate a lot of money to pay for everybody.
2:29:34
SPEAKER_02: And again, I've been to the Hollywood Bowl numerous times in my life when I lived in California.
2:29:41
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:29:42
SPEAKER_02: And that place holds 18,000, 20,000 people at the most.
2:29:46
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:29:46
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:29:47
SPEAKER_02: Is 18 or 20,000 people going to cover the costs for paying everybody and production
2:29:54
SPEAKER_02: and blah, blah, blah?
2:29:56
SPEAKER_02: So where's the money angle in this is my question.
2:30:00
SPEAKER_02: Where is the value in this for the promoter who is putting this whole thing on?
2:30:08
SPEAKER_03: I don't remember,
2:30:10
SPEAKER_03: but I don't think,
2:30:13
SPEAKER_03: and again,
2:30:14
SPEAKER_03: I could be wrong on this,
2:30:16
SPEAKER_03: I don't think they announced the streaming part of the Aussie thing until after
2:30:20
SPEAKER_03: the tickets were sold.
2:30:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:30:24
SPEAKER_03: So that makes me think they'll probably wait till that and then announce maybe week
2:30:31
SPEAKER_03: of streaming.
2:30:32
SPEAKER_03: Don't miss it.
2:30:34
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:30:35
SPEAKER_02: Then the second part of this is, is this just a test run for aerospace?
2:30:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's hard to say.
2:30:50
SPEAKER_03: I mean, if it is, they're testing a bunch of stuff.
2:30:54
SPEAKER_02: But is this a test run to see if perhaps they can perform as Aerosmith?
2:31:04
SPEAKER_02: You know, will Steven's voice hold up?
2:31:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, could be.
2:31:08
SPEAKER_02: You know,
2:31:09
SPEAKER_02: are the band healthy enough to pull off this final tour that they want
2:31:15
SPEAKER_02: to do two years ago?
2:31:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:31:19
SPEAKER_03: Who's playing drums too?
2:31:21
SPEAKER_02: That's another question.
2:31:22
SPEAKER_02: You just hit the nail on the head.
2:31:24
SPEAKER_02: I was just going to ask, is Joey Kramer going to be the drummer?
2:31:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
2:31:36
SPEAKER_02: Because there was obviously issues with his, quote unquote, his ability, whatever that is.
2:31:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:31:44
SPEAKER_03: And nowhere in the press release does it say anything about Joey Kramer.
2:31:49
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't say anything about the lineup.
2:31:52
SPEAKER_03: Let me go back to the picture.
2:31:59
SPEAKER_03: Is he in this picture?
2:32:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's right there.
2:32:02
SPEAKER_02: He's second from the right.
2:32:05
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so he's in the photo.
2:32:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, is that a current photo?
2:32:09
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to assume it's a current photo.
2:32:11
SPEAKER_03: I think it is, just because I recognize Hamilton from when he...
2:32:16
SPEAKER_03: Came on and did not talk on our,
2:32:21
SPEAKER_03: what is it, not Elegant Weapons, what is it, Close Enemies interview?
2:32:26
SPEAKER_03: When he tried to talk, I feel so bad for that dude.
2:32:30
SPEAKER_03: Dude makes millions of dollars and right when he's about to retire,
2:32:33
SPEAKER_03: he loses his ability to speak.
2:32:36
SPEAKER_03: Right.
2:32:36
SPEAKER_03: That blows.
2:32:38
SPEAKER_03: That absolutely blows.
2:32:42
SPEAKER_03: Can't even order the hookers on the phone.
2:32:48
SPEAKER_02: So, a lot of questions there.
2:32:52
SPEAKER_02: It's just like, what is the reason for this?
2:32:55
SPEAKER_02: Why now?
2:32:57
SPEAKER_02: You know, all of a sudden, it's just announced on very short notice.
2:33:02
SPEAKER_03: And the announcement was goofed up, too.
2:33:05
SPEAKER_00: That's a whole other thing, is how organized is this thing going to be?
2:33:10
SPEAKER_00: Because did you see it was like they put out a whole thing,
2:33:13
SPEAKER_00: like a teaser and everything about...
2:33:16
SPEAKER_00: Tomorrow, 10 a.m. or something.
2:33:18
SPEAKER_00: Then tomorrow at 10 a.m. came and went.
2:33:21
SPEAKER_00: And at like 6 p.m., they put out another thing and said, well, really, it's tomorrow.
2:33:27
SPEAKER_00: It's like, ooh, that doesn't feel right.
2:33:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know, man.
2:33:35
SPEAKER_00: I want it to be good in the worst way.
2:33:38
SPEAKER_00: Everybody says that me and you are way too negative or whatever.
2:33:41
SPEAKER_00: Not negative.
2:33:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:33:44
SPEAKER_02: Is it negative to ask questions?
2:33:47
SPEAKER_00: It is.
2:33:48
SPEAKER_03: Is it?
2:33:49
SPEAKER_03: If you don't just ask, kiss it and say, oh, this is the best thing ever, man.
2:33:53
SPEAKER_03: Why can't you
2:33:55
SPEAKER_02: ask questions?
2:33:56
SPEAKER_02: Not allowed.
2:33:58
SPEAKER_02: See, the thing is, you've known me a long time.
2:34:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm a businessman.
2:34:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:34:05
SPEAKER_02: I do business.
2:34:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:34:07
SPEAKER_02: And I look at the return on investment.
2:34:10
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:34:10
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:34:11
SPEAKER_02: And regardless if it's entertainment or if it's,
2:34:15
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:34:17
SPEAKER_02: whatever other kind of business you're in, I always look at return on investment.
2:34:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure.
2:34:23
SPEAKER_02: So where is the return on investment in this?
2:34:26
SPEAKER_02: And the questions come from not knowing.
2:34:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's not because it's like, well, that makes a lot of, you know, sense business wise.
2:34:36
SPEAKER_02: It's just like, I don't know the answer.
2:34:39
SPEAKER_02: So I'm going to ask the question.
2:34:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:34:41
SPEAKER_02: But it isn't because of my fandom, because I love Aerosmith.
2:34:46
SPEAKER_02: I've seen Aerosmith many times, you know, and I like most of the people who are on the bill.
2:34:53
SPEAKER_02: I love Black Crows.
2:34:54
SPEAKER_02: I like Gundon Roses.
2:34:55
SPEAKER_02: I do too.
2:34:57
SPEAKER_02: You know, all these people.
2:34:59
SPEAKER_02: But regardless of that,
2:35:02
SPEAKER_02: Does it make sense in my head from what I know in my years of doing this show
2:35:08
SPEAKER_02: and being involved in the business?
2:35:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm not like some kind of power broker obviously,
2:35:16
SPEAKER_02: but I know the business well enough to ask the questions.
2:35:20
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
2:35:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to read this.
2:35:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to answer it and I'm sure you're going to want to answer it too.
2:35:24
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:35:25
SPEAKER_00: Scooby in the chat room, it's how you ask the questions.
2:35:27
SPEAKER_00: You sound skeptical.
2:35:29
SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
2:35:30
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it is skeptical.
2:35:32
SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
2:35:32
SPEAKER_00: I was going to say the same thing.
2:35:34
SPEAKER_00: I am skeptical of it.
2:35:36
SPEAKER_03: I'm absolutely skeptical of it until they show me that there's no reason to be skeptical.
2:35:43
SPEAKER_03: Because I've watched these things flounder a lot of times.
2:35:49
SPEAKER_03: Honestly, in my lifetime, I can think of two things.
2:35:54
SPEAKER_03: Of these kind of things that have not floundered.
2:35:57
SPEAKER_03: Live Aid and Ozzy's last show.
2:36:00
SPEAKER_03: Can you think of any other ones that were just not lukewarm?
2:36:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, the skepticism comes from the fact that this was announced so short in advance.
2:36:21
SPEAKER_02: It's like, how did this get thrown together so quickly?
2:36:26
SPEAKER_02: Typically,
2:36:27
SPEAKER_02: something like this of this kind of magnitude usually takes planning way ahead
2:36:34
SPEAKER_02: of time.
2:36:35
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, look at the, look at, let's just take Metallica at the Sphere.
2:36:41
SPEAKER_02: That was announced, what, like six or eight months ago?
2:36:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:36:46
SPEAKER_02: This thing was just announced for a show that's going to take place in three weeks.
2:36:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:36:53
SPEAKER_02: Where, what, what's the deal here?
2:36:57
SPEAKER_02: And again, if you ever been to the Hollywood Bowl, It's just an outdoor shed like most places.
2:37:05
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's iconic and everything,
2:37:07
SPEAKER_02: but how does this thing make it worthwhile for the promoter, whoever that is?
2:37:15
SPEAKER_02: Because our two nights, it's two nights, 40,000 seats.
2:37:21
SPEAKER_02: At whatever dollar amount that sells,
2:37:23
SPEAKER_02: is that going to cover the cost of everybody involved with this?
2:37:28
SPEAKER_02: Did they get everybody to sign off and say,
2:37:30
SPEAKER_02: we're just doing this because we're friends of Aerosmith?
2:37:34
SPEAKER_02: These are the questions.
2:37:36
SPEAKER_02: It's not because we think it's a foolhardy venture.
2:37:40
SPEAKER_02: It's just like, how do you pull something like this off?
2:37:44
SPEAKER_03: What do you think these tickets are going to cost?
2:37:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
2:37:47
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're not putting that out
2:37:48
SPEAKER_00: there either.
2:37:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking five.
2:37:51
SPEAKER_03: Are they on sale?
2:37:52
SPEAKER_03: No.
2:37:53
SPEAKER_00: Not yet.
2:37:53
SPEAKER_02: They're not on sale yet.
2:37:54
SPEAKER_03: Not yet.
2:37:55
SPEAKER_02: When do they go on sale?
2:37:58
SPEAKER_03: Let me go back to that page.
2:37:59
SPEAKER_03: They go on sale.
2:38:02
SPEAKER_03: Where is that Citibank bullshit?
2:38:07
SPEAKER_03: Tickets, presale tickets go on sale October 8th at 10 a.m.
2:38:11
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:38:12
SPEAKER_02: So the presales are on sale.
2:38:15
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
2:38:15
SPEAKER_03: So wait a minute.
2:38:16
SPEAKER_03: Until Friday for complete.
2:38:20
SPEAKER_03: The general on sale.
2:38:21
SPEAKER_03: Well, maybe it is on sale on the 10th.
2:38:22
SPEAKER_03: All right.
2:38:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, let's find out what that costs.
2:38:25
SPEAKER_02: Let's find it out.
2:38:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let's see.
2:38:27
SPEAKER_03: Let me see here.
2:38:28
SPEAKER_03: LiveNation.com.
2:38:39
SPEAKER_03: Search Aerosmith.
2:38:43
SPEAKER_02: It would not surprise me if it sold out already.
2:38:46
SPEAKER_03: It wouldn't surprise me either.
2:38:49
SPEAKER_02: But.
2:38:50
SPEAKER_02: The whole thing is, regardless of it being sold out or not, 40,000 tickets, two nights.
2:39:00
SPEAKER_03: Well.
2:39:05
Wow.
2:39:07
SPEAKER_02: What are we talking here?
2:39:12
SPEAKER_03: $2.75 a ticket for Section P3.
2:39:16
SPEAKER_03: Where's that?
2:39:19
SPEAKER_03: That's way over here.
2:39:20
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:39:22
SPEAKER_03: I'm not putting it on the screen here.
2:39:23
SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
2:39:25
SPEAKER_03: That's over here.
2:39:27
SPEAKER_03: $275 plus fees and whatever.
2:39:32
SPEAKER_03: Section X is $238.
2:39:33
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
2:39:35
SPEAKER_03: And everything up front is gone.
2:39:38
SPEAKER_02: Of course.
2:39:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:39:39
SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
2:39:40
SPEAKER_03: What is G worth?
2:39:43
SPEAKER_03: How much are these tickets?
2:39:46
SPEAKER_03: $915.00.
2:39:51
SPEAKER_03: $915.
2:39:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, $1,000.
2:39:56
SPEAKER_03: Here we go, $1,006 a ticket.
2:39:58
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
2:39:59
SPEAKER_03: $1,000 a ticket.
2:40:01
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's how they're going to pay for it.
2:40:03
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:40:07
SPEAKER_03: Woof.
2:40:10
SPEAKER_03: What is that ticket?
2:40:11
SPEAKER_03: $1,000 ticket, yeah.
2:40:13
SPEAKER_03: So they sold all these tickets for $1,000 a hit.
2:40:15
SPEAKER_03: $1,000 in here.
2:40:22
SPEAKER_03: $2,300 here.
2:40:25
SPEAKER_03: What did these cost?
2:40:26
SPEAKER_03: Can you see?
2:40:30
SPEAKER_02: Now you can see.
2:40:31
SPEAKER_02: Well, $250 a ticket at $40,000 on an average.
2:40:37
SPEAKER_02: That's $10 million.
2:40:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:40:44
SPEAKER_03: I guess that's how it pays for itself.
2:40:46
SPEAKER_02: I guess.
2:40:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure you can pay everybody and make money with $10 million.
2:40:52
SPEAKER_00: And if you add streaming to it, it's going to be another
2:40:55
SPEAKER_03: $5 million.
2:40:58
SPEAKER_03: It'll charge $35 a hit or something for streaming.
2:41:04
SPEAKER_03: Get a million there.
2:41:05
SPEAKER_03: They might get a million there.
2:41:08
SPEAKER_03: Think a million people would stream this thing?
2:41:11
SPEAKER_02: Well, in the world?
2:41:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:41:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a million people in the world, sure.
2:41:17
SPEAKER_03: So if they charge $35, it's $35 million on top of it.
2:41:23
SPEAKER_03: There's your money.
2:41:28
SPEAKER_03: I just hate that fucking all this stuff,
2:41:31
SPEAKER_03: you know,
2:41:31
SPEAKER_03: we made all these bands and now it's just become a luxury to see these bands.
2:41:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, of course.
2:41:38
SPEAKER_03: It's a luxury purchase now.
2:41:40
SPEAKER_03: It's not an entertainment purchase anymore.
2:41:44
SPEAKER_03: It just sucks.
2:41:45
SPEAKER_03: I fucking hate this business.
2:41:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, even the shitty seats of Section P3 Mm-hmm.
2:41:54
SPEAKER_03: Terrible.
2:41:57
SPEAKER_03: Even these seats, X.
2:41:59
SPEAKER_03: Let's go out to these X.
2:42:01
SPEAKER_03: These X2, you're basically at the back.
2:42:06
SPEAKER_03: And that's $286.
2:42:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:42:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, when I lived in California,
2:42:13
SPEAKER_02: I used to get tickets like around the Terrace 5, Terrace 4 section to go see shows.
2:42:20
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
2:42:21
SPEAKER_02: They might have been $80.
2:42:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:42:25
SPEAKER_03: Dude, now to sit in the back row, $292.
2:42:30
SPEAKER_03: $292.
2:42:33
SPEAKER_03: Got to pay to park there, I'll bet, too, don't you?
2:42:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
2:42:37
SPEAKER_03: So add another $100.
2:42:40
SPEAKER_03: So that'd be $392.
2:42:42
SPEAKER_03: Going to get a beer?
2:42:43
SPEAKER_03: That's probably $25 a hit.
2:42:46
SPEAKER_03: Right?
2:42:48
SPEAKER_03: Maybe more.
2:42:50
SPEAKER_03: Maybe more.
2:42:51
SPEAKER_02: California prices.
2:42:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's true.
2:42:56
SPEAKER_03: And then the fees on top,
2:42:57
SPEAKER_03: I mean, this is $1,000 a night, no matter, $1,000 to $2,000 to go to this shit.
2:43:03
SPEAKER_03: God, what a fucking scam.
2:43:07
SPEAKER_03: It's such a fucking scam, man.
2:43:09
SPEAKER_03: It is, I agree.
2:43:14
SPEAKER_03: That's disheartening.
2:43:15
SPEAKER_03: I hadn't looked at this stuff, but that is disheartening, isn't it?
2:43:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, and again, this goes back to what we've always asked.
2:43:23
SPEAKER_02: Are people going into debt to go see these things?
2:43:32
SPEAKER_03: Or is it just a bunch of OnlyFans models that make $10,000 a day?
2:43:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:43:38
SPEAKER_02: Are they putting this on a credit card to pay off over time?
2:43:43
SPEAKER_02: Or are they paying this all up front?
2:43:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:43:49
SPEAKER_03: You know they're putting it on cards, too.
2:43:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:43:51
SPEAKER_02: See, I would never do anything like that.
2:43:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know they are.
2:43:55
SPEAKER_03: So that $1,000 ticket costs them about
2:43:57
SPEAKER_00: $1,750 or whatever by the time they pay for it.
2:44:00
SPEAKER_02: Well, and that's just for your ticket.
2:44:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:44:03
SPEAKER_02: You're going to take a date or your kid or your wife or whatever the fuck.
2:44:09
SPEAKER_02: So you're in for two grand.
2:44:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:44:12
SPEAKER_02: For you and your, you know, your associate.
2:44:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:44:18
SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying that's completely unaffordable, but that's fucking, that's a lot.
2:44:23
SPEAKER_03: For what, two hours?
2:44:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, that's a lot.
2:44:26
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's terrible.
2:44:29
SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying it's not terrible.
2:44:31
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying it's not complete.
2:44:33
SPEAKER_00: No, it's not like the Metallica shit.
2:44:35
SPEAKER_00: The Metallica shit is ridiculous.
2:44:38
SPEAKER_00: $10,000 for a fucking seat.
2:44:41
SPEAKER_03: Fuck you.
2:44:42
SPEAKER_03: There's not an event on this planet that's worth $10,000.
2:44:45
SPEAKER_03: There's nothing.
2:44:48
SPEAKER_02: Led Zeppelin.
2:44:49
SPEAKER_02: Not for two hours.
2:44:52
SPEAKER_03: There's no act that could play a show that I would ever consider $10,000 on.
2:45:02
SPEAKER_03: Is there any act that you would consider spending that much money?
2:45:06
SPEAKER_02: No, not at all.
2:45:08
SPEAKER_03: Would you even consider half of that for anything?
2:45:10
SPEAKER_02: No, absolutely not.
2:45:12
SPEAKER_02: Me either.
2:45:13
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I've been to hundreds of concerts in my life.
2:45:20
SPEAKER_02: I'll live with those memories before I spend,
2:45:23
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:45:24
SPEAKER_02: two, three, four, $5,000 for a goddamn seat for two, two to two and a half hours.
2:45:32
SPEAKER_02: Are you shitting me?
2:45:33
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy talk.
2:45:36
SPEAKER_03: That is crazy talk.
2:45:37
SPEAKER_03: And you don't even know what you're going to hear.
2:45:40
SPEAKER_03: That's the other thing.
2:45:41
SPEAKER_03: You might get five fucking Aerosmith songs from actual Aerosmith.
2:45:47
SPEAKER_03: Can you imagine if you spent $2,000 for you and your chick
2:45:51
SPEAKER_03: and they played five songs as the original band and all the rest of it was like
2:45:58
SPEAKER_03: an all-star jam?
2:45:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then they play five shitty 90 songs.
2:46:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's all crying.
2:46:05
SPEAKER_02: Like crazy or some shit.
2:46:07
SPEAKER_02: Jamie's got a gun.
2:46:08
SPEAKER_02: And that
2:46:10
SPEAKER_00: could happen.
2:46:10
SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
2:46:14
SPEAKER_00: You know, the Armageddon song?
2:46:19
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to close my eyes.
2:46:23
SPEAKER_03: Can you imagine if you got that for $1,000?
2:46:27
SPEAKER_03: You'd be looking to riot.
2:46:31
SPEAKER_03: What a fucking disaster.
2:46:35
SPEAKER_03: Wow, I wish I hadn't seen these prices.
2:46:37
SPEAKER_03: Now I'm right back to negative again.
2:46:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, again,
2:46:41
SPEAKER_02: do you think some high-end promoter is going to promote a show like this
2:46:47
SPEAKER_02: without getting some kind of, again, return on investment?
2:46:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they've got to get their money.
2:46:53
SPEAKER_03: I get it.
2:46:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
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SPEAKER_02: But again, who are these people paying this kind of money?
2:47:37
SPEAKER_03: That is always the million-dollar question, isn't it?
2:47:42
SPEAKER_03: It's a bunch of jerk-offs that we wouldn't want to be at a concert with.
2:47:45
SPEAKER_03: That's who it is.
2:47:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I can... You know me.
2:47:50
SPEAKER_02: I can afford to do that if I wanted to.
2:47:53
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:47:53
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't do it.
2:47:54
SPEAKER_02: It's not worth it to me to do that.
2:47:58
SPEAKER_03: No way.
2:47:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:48:01
SPEAKER_03: I just can't see...
2:48:03
SPEAKER_03: I can't see me coming.
2:48:06
SPEAKER_03: Technically, I could afford it.
2:48:08
SPEAKER_03: I could do the same thing.
2:48:10
SPEAKER_03: I'd throw it on a credit card and go.
2:48:14
SPEAKER_03: My thought, though,
2:48:15
SPEAKER_03: is how mad am I going to be no matter how good the show is after it
2:48:20
SPEAKER_03: that I spent $2,000?
2:48:25
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to hate that show for the rest of my life no matter how great it is.
2:48:29
SPEAKER_03: I would.
2:48:31
SPEAKER_03: If I spent $2,000, forget Aerosmith.
2:48:34
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I love Aerosmith,
2:48:35
SPEAKER_03: but I'll go to like the Metallica,
2:48:38
SPEAKER_03: Metallica or Pantera, which are my two favorite bands.
2:48:42
SPEAKER_03: And I did go and see them in Detroit and I sat
2:48:45
SPEAKER_02: and- You drove.
2:48:46
SPEAKER_02: I drove.
2:48:47
SPEAKER_02: Which is surprising to everybody.
2:48:50
SPEAKER_02: I know.
2:48:52
SPEAKER_02: That you actually went to the mean streets of Detroit.
2:48:57
SPEAKER_03: But you know me, you know those are my two bands.
2:49:00
SPEAKER_02: Yes, of course.
2:49:01
SPEAKER_03: But I'll tell you, if I hadn't gotten a deal on the tickets, I would not have drove.
2:49:08
SPEAKER_03: Tell you that now.
2:49:09
SPEAKER_03: If I hadn't gotten my tickets for $150, there's no chance I'm going to that.
2:49:16
SPEAKER_02: Not only that, you drove home after the show.
2:49:20
SPEAKER_02: I did.
2:49:20
SPEAKER_03: I absolutely did.
2:49:21
SPEAKER_02: You didn't even stay.
2:49:21
SPEAKER_02: You didn't even get a hotel and stay.
2:49:24
SPEAKER_02: You just, like, you toughed it out and drove across the Ohio Turnpike and went home.
2:49:31
SPEAKER_03: What am I going to stay for?
2:49:34
SPEAKER_03: So that I'm not tired in the morning?
2:49:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:49:37
SPEAKER_03: I'm nocturnal anyway.
2:49:38
SPEAKER_03: I was just like, fuck this.
2:49:40
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean, hotels.
2:49:42
SPEAKER_03: I just didn't want to add another 200 bucks.
2:49:46
SPEAKER_02: 200 bucks.
2:49:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
2:49:48
SPEAKER_03: You know, I just didn't want to add that and then breakfast and all that other bullshit.
2:49:51
SPEAKER_03: I was like, fuck that.
2:49:52
SPEAKER_03: I'll just go home.
2:49:54
SPEAKER_02: And I was home.
2:49:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm just on through the night, just like Def Leppard.
2:49:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
2:50:00
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:50:03
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
2:50:04
SPEAKER_03: I was much more optimistic about this thing before we started talking about it.
2:50:08
SPEAKER_03: Now I'm just like, God damn it.
2:50:09
SPEAKER_03: Stop being so skeptical, Chris.
2:50:11
SPEAKER_03: You're just being an asshole.
2:50:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, there's a reason I'm skeptical now.
2:50:17
SPEAKER_03: Fucking thousand dollar tickets.
2:50:18
SPEAKER_03: Fuck you.
2:50:21
SPEAKER_03: That is ridiculous.
2:50:24
SPEAKER_03: Oof.
2:50:25
SPEAKER_03: Oof.
2:50:29
SPEAKER_03: All right.
2:50:31
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, if you want to go see Aerosmith, put your kid on the block for sale.
2:50:41
SPEAKER_03: Jesus Christ.
2:50:44
SPEAKER_03: That just sucks.
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SPEAKER_03: All right, let's talk about one more thing real quick and we'll get the fuck out of here.
2:52:00
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:52:02
SPEAKER_03: We mentioned it, or you mentioned it here in the Aerosmith story, and it's just the last thing.
2:52:11
SPEAKER_00: And I actually talked to you about this on the phone because I still am like,
2:52:16
SPEAKER_00: here we go being negative again, but I'm going to be negative on this.
2:52:20
SPEAKER_00: Def Leppard announced their tour.
2:52:23
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
2:52:24
SPEAKER_02: I saw a big announcement.
2:52:26
SPEAKER_02: With very liked bands.
2:52:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:52:31
SPEAKER_03: They announced it here in Cleveland.
2:52:33
SPEAKER_03: And at first, you know, I get the email that says, Def Leppard, come into Ohio.
2:52:37
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, all right.
2:52:39
SPEAKER_03: I interviewed Phil Collins recently.
2:52:41
SPEAKER_03: I can make that phone call.
2:52:42
SPEAKER_00: I can make that happen.
2:52:44
SPEAKER_00: You know,
2:52:44
SPEAKER_00: and that was honestly my first thought was,
2:52:48
SPEAKER_00: I interviewed Phil Collin pretty recently.
2:52:52
SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure I can make a phone call to get into this one.
2:52:55
SPEAKER_02: Not Phil Collins, but Phil Collin.
2:52:59
SPEAKER_00: Phil Collin.
2:53:01
SPEAKER_03: You know, Mr. No-Shirt.
2:53:03
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:53:03
SPEAKER_03: I interviewed him.
2:53:05
SPEAKER_03: So my thought was, this will be great.
2:53:07
SPEAKER_03: I haven't seen Def Leppard since...
2:53:10
SPEAKER_00: Whenever it was that Jeff Scott Soto was in Journey because it was Journey
2:53:13
SPEAKER_00: and Def Leppard at Blossom.
2:53:16
SPEAKER_02: That was 2006, 2007.
2:53:19
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it was that late.
2:53:20
SPEAKER_02: I think it was like 2005.
2:53:22
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:53:23
SPEAKER_00: It's been a long time.
2:53:24
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:53:25
SPEAKER_03: Since I've seen the LEP.
2:53:26
SPEAKER_02: So it's been over 20 years.
2:53:28
SPEAKER_03: All right.
2:53:29
SPEAKER_03: Makes sense.
2:53:30
SPEAKER_03: So I was like, yeah, I'm going to make that call.
2:53:32
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to go.
2:53:33
SPEAKER_03: Then I looked and it's with the Goo Goo Dolls and the Struts.
2:53:42
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, oh, this sucks.
2:53:49
SPEAKER_03: Who in the hell decided that Def Leppard was a good fit with the Goo Goo Dolls?
2:53:55
SPEAKER_02: Well, when I listen to Iris from the Goo Goo Dolls.
2:53:58
SPEAKER_02: Which is never, but go ahead.
2:54:00
SPEAKER_02: I often think, pour some sugar on me.
2:54:03
SPEAKER_00: That's usually the way I go.
2:54:05
SPEAKER_02: That's the relatability there for me personally.
2:54:09
SPEAKER_03: When I'm just jamming the name in my car, the next song I put on is Switch 625.
2:54:14
SPEAKER_03: Every time.
2:54:16
SPEAKER_03: Every time.
2:54:17
SPEAKER_03: It just works.
2:54:19
SPEAKER_03: What fucking lunatic put this shit together?
2:54:27
SPEAKER_02: Def Leppard and the Goo Goo Dolls.
2:54:30
SPEAKER_02: When I'm listening to Black Balloon, I'm thinking Armageddon it.
2:54:37
SPEAKER_03: When was the last time you listened to Black Balloon?
2:54:41
SPEAKER_02: Well, I listened to it just the other day.
2:54:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
2:54:43
SPEAKER_02: Because I was getting amped for this tour.
2:54:46
SPEAKER_00: For the tour?
2:54:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:54:47
SPEAKER_00: You're waiting in the queue to buy your tickets?
2:54:50
SPEAKER_02: I was like thinking Black Balloon, Armageddon it, I get it.
2:54:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it makes sense.
2:54:57
SPEAKER_02: It does.
2:55:02
SPEAKER_03: Are they even a rock band anymore?
2:55:05
SPEAKER_03: Do they know what they want to be?
2:55:08
SPEAKER_02: I think they want to be whatever's popular.
2:55:10
SPEAKER_02: Whatever pays.
2:55:12
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:55:13
SPEAKER_03: Because in some things, they want to be out with hair bands, which is where they kind of belong.
2:55:20
SPEAKER_03: They were one of the dominant hair bands.
2:55:22
SPEAKER_02: They really were.
2:55:24
SPEAKER_02: They were.
2:55:25
SPEAKER_02: They dominated MTV back in 1983 when Pyromania hit the charts.
2:55:32
SPEAKER_02: And again,
2:55:33
SPEAKER_02: I was working at a record store at the time and We could not keep enough pyromania
2:55:39
SPEAKER_02: on the shelf, be it album or cassette tape.
2:55:44
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we were sold out.
2:55:46
SPEAKER_02: The records and tapes arrived at the store on Tuesday.
2:55:50
SPEAKER_02: We were sold out by Thursday.
2:55:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I believe that.
2:55:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just don't know.
2:55:56
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I have a weird thought on this, and this is just me spitballing here.
2:56:05
SPEAKER_03: Do you think Leopard's going to go out and do a tour that
2:56:11
SPEAKER_00: fits with the Goo Goo Dolls?
2:56:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean, and yeah,
2:56:15
SPEAKER_00: they'll play Pour Some Sugar On Me and Animal and Women and stuff like that,
2:56:21
SPEAKER_00: but do you think the bulk of this is going to be Miss You In A Heartbeat
2:56:27
SPEAKER_00: and Two Steps Behind and Love Bites?
2:56:29
SPEAKER_02: So you think they're going to just do...
2:56:33
SPEAKER_02: Songs that make sense.
2:56:35
SPEAKER_03: Ballads?
2:56:35
SPEAKER_03: Not necessarily ballads, but mid-tempo.
2:56:40
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
2:56:41
SPEAKER_03: Ballads.
2:56:42
SPEAKER_03: Because if they come out rocking after the Goo Goo Dolls,
2:56:47
SPEAKER_03: that's really going to make the Goo Goo Dolls look terrible.
2:56:51
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if they care about that, but it just doesn't mix at all unless they do that.
2:57:00
SPEAKER_03: I mean, does it mix?
2:57:01
SPEAKER_03: Do you see any way that they come out and they play the same set
2:57:07
SPEAKER_03: that they were playing with Motley Crue?
2:57:13
SPEAKER_02: It's such a weird, weird thing.
2:57:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah?
2:57:20
SPEAKER_02: I just don't really get the connection there between,
2:57:25
SPEAKER_02: and again, I don't even know much about the struts.
2:57:29
SPEAKER_03: They're just like one of them hipster bands.
2:57:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:57:33
SPEAKER_02: Aren't they kind of like punk rock in a way
2:57:37
SPEAKER_03: a little bit?
2:57:38
SPEAKER_03: They're one of those bands that you would hear on Little Stevens Garage or whatever
2:57:43
SPEAKER_03: that show is called.
2:57:44
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:57:45
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's that hipster shit.
2:57:47
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:57:48
SPEAKER_03: That New York hipster shit.
2:57:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
2:57:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't think they're from New York, but it's that style, I guess.
2:57:55
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:57:55
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:57:57
SPEAKER_03: I just can't fathom how this works for Def Leppard.
2:58:02
SPEAKER_03: Do you think it sells tickets?
2:58:06
SPEAKER_03: Do you think that those Goo Goo Dolls fans,
2:58:09
SPEAKER_03: all those fucking 40 and 50 year old fucking moms are going to be coming out
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SPEAKER_03: to see Def Leppard?
2:58:19
SPEAKER_02: Well, here's the thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Did the 40 and 50 year old moms who liked Def Leppard as teenagers graduate to
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SPEAKER_02: the Goo Goo Dolls as they aged?
2:58:35
SPEAKER_03: Maybe, I don't know.
2:58:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't think,
2:58:39
SPEAKER_03: if you liked Def Leppard before Hysteria,
2:58:43
SPEAKER_03: I don't think you, I don't think you like the Goo Goo Dolls at all.
2:58:49
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know,
2:58:50
SPEAKER_02: Def Leppard,
2:58:52
SPEAKER_02: Were popular a decade before the Goo Goo Dolls kind of became, you know, known.
2:59:02
SPEAKER_02: So did you graduate from Def Leppard to Goo Goo Dolls when the nineties hit?
2:59:09
SPEAKER_02: I mean, as you age, did your, did your tastes change to go, well, this is what, what's hip now.
2:59:18
SPEAKER_02: And so now kind of the transition kind of makes sense.
2:59:23
SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
2:59:24
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
2:59:25
SPEAKER_03: I don't see that as the same audience.
2:59:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't either.
2:59:28
SPEAKER_03: I just don't see that.
2:59:31
SPEAKER_03: I see the Goo Goo Dolls playing with... God, I don't even know who.
2:59:40
SPEAKER_03: Because I don't listen to that kind of music.
2:59:42
SPEAKER_03: I mean, who would be a legitimate band for them to play with?
2:59:47
SPEAKER_03: Collective Soul?
2:59:48
SPEAKER_02: The Collective Soul, who was that band that just got the Gallagher Brothers?
2:59:54
SPEAKER_02: Oasis?
2:59:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Oasis.
2:59:58
SPEAKER_02: Maybe, I don't know.
3:00:00
SPEAKER_02: They would kind of be better with Oasis?
3:00:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, maybe.
3:00:04
SPEAKER_02: Or like you said, who had the album Wunderlust?
3:00:13
SPEAKER_03: Wunderlust?
3:00:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Wunderlust.
3:00:17
SPEAKER_02: What was the band?
3:00:18
SPEAKER_02: Something Flowers.
3:00:21
SPEAKER_03: The Wallflowers?
3:00:22
SPEAKER_02: The Wallflowers.
3:00:23
SPEAKER_03: Is that who it was?
3:00:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think so.
3:00:26
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
3:00:28
SPEAKER_02: So, Goo Goo Dolls, Wallflowers.
3:00:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but the Wallflowers went away in no time.
3:00:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know, but it was the same era, though.
3:00:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:00:38
SPEAKER_03: Wasn't that Bob Dylan's kid?
3:00:41
SPEAKER_03: Something like that, yeah.
3:00:42
SPEAKER_03: Jacob Dylan, was his name?
3:00:43
SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes.
3:00:45
SPEAKER_02: So that would make sense.
3:00:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Def Leppard does not make sense.
3:00:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just saw this.
3:00:54
SPEAKER_03: I was like, what the fuck is this about?
3:00:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, they're playing here in the Chicagoland area at the United Center on March 25th of 2027.
3:01:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:01:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm going.
3:01:06
SPEAKER_03: Fuck that.
3:01:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm going.
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SPEAKER_02: Stop.
3:01:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to pay $7,000.
3:01:15
SPEAKER_02: I hope it's like this.
3:01:18
SPEAKER_02: I hope it's like the sphere show.
3:01:21
SPEAKER_00: Would you like me to make that phone call for you?
3:01:24
SPEAKER_02: I would.
3:01:25
SPEAKER_00: Would you like me to burn that favor on this tour?
3:01:31
SPEAKER_03: Because that's really the stop point is,
3:01:33
SPEAKER_03: like I said,
3:01:34
SPEAKER_03: I fully, when I first saw the announcement, I was like, I am fucking going to that.
3:01:39
SPEAKER_03: I haven't seen Def Leppard in a long time.
3:01:41
SPEAKER_03: I'd like to see him.
3:01:43
SPEAKER_03: And then I saw that with the Goo Goo Dolls.
3:01:45
SPEAKER_03: I was like, yeah, not worth blowing the favor up.
3:01:49
SPEAKER_00: Because that's a,
3:01:50
SPEAKER_00: you know,
3:01:52
SPEAKER_00: to pull back the curtain a little bit,
3:01:54
SPEAKER_00: a big band like that, that's a big favor to pull.
3:01:58
SPEAKER_03: You know, that's one of those things that's still going to have to get approved
3:02:02
SPEAKER_03: through management and everything.
3:02:04
SPEAKER_03: That's one of those things that I'm going
3:02:06
SPEAKER_00: to have to send the interview
3:02:07
SPEAKER_00: and Def Leppard's management will have to review it to see if it was good enough
3:02:12
SPEAKER_00: to...
3:02:13
SPEAKER_00: Warrant me a precious seat at the show or whatever, so.
3:02:17
SPEAKER_01: Yo, metalheads, you ready to get your brains blown off?
3:02:21
SPEAKER_01: Blizzard of Oz is now on vinyl, baby.
3:02:25
SPEAKER_01: Randy Rhoads ripping faces off with those insane solos,
3:02:29
SPEAKER_01: crazy train blasting through your speakers like a freight train from hell.
3:02:33
SPEAKER_01: This ain't some lame stream.
3:02:35
SPEAKER_01: This is the real deal on wax, loud as hell and twice as evil.
3:02:41
SPEAKER_01: Links at the bottom of the screen.
3:02:43
SPEAKER_01: Buy the Blizzard of Oz vinyl and let it take you on a trip.
3:02:49
SPEAKER_00: To see Def Leppard you go, I guess.
3:02:56
SPEAKER_02: It's a weird bill.
3:02:58
SPEAKER_02: It's just not a good bill at all.
3:03:01
SPEAKER_02: So is it Def Leppard featuring the Goo Goo Dolls and the Struts or is that
3:03:08
SPEAKER_02: a co-headlining tour or what is it?
3:03:11
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
3:03:13
SPEAKER_03: I think it's Def Leppard with special guests.
3:03:16
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
3:03:17
SPEAKER_03: Goo Goo and the Struts.
3:03:22
SPEAKER_03: I'm seeing if those tickets are on sale yet.
3:03:29
SPEAKER_03: Ticketmaster, who built this website?
3:03:31
SPEAKER_03: Jesus Christ.
3:03:33
SPEAKER_03: Def Leppard.
3:03:36
SPEAKER_02: Wow, look at Louis Black.
3:03:37
SPEAKER_02: He's looking like death warmed over.
3:03:41
SPEAKER_03: Where did you see him?
3:03:43
SPEAKER_02: Just on the previous page.
3:03:46
SPEAKER_03: And nobody has that screen up.
3:03:47
SPEAKER_03: Let me put this up.
3:03:49
SPEAKER_03: Def Leppard.
3:03:50
SPEAKER_03: I guess it doesn't matter.
3:03:52
SPEAKER_03: Find tickets.
3:03:56
SPEAKER_03: Thursday, October 15th.
3:03:58
SPEAKER_03: Def Leppard.
3:04:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh, this is just Def Leppard.
3:04:04
SPEAKER_03: This isn't with Goo Goo Dolls.
3:04:06
SPEAKER_03: That's not what I want.
3:04:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh, pre-sales not till next week.
3:04:14
SPEAKER_03: How come they can't tell you the price?
3:04:17
SPEAKER_03: How do you know if you want to buy the tickets if you don't know what they cost?
3:04:21
SPEAKER_02: Because it's that, what do they call that?
3:04:25
SPEAKER_03: Sliding scale or whatever.
3:04:26
SPEAKER_02: Sliding scale or whatever the popularity is.
3:04:31
SPEAKER_02: They just jack the price because people want You know,
3:04:36
SPEAKER_02: the demand is higher, so they jack the prices.
3:04:39
SPEAKER_03: Demand is higher.
3:04:41
SPEAKER_03: These fucking assholes.
3:04:42
SPEAKER_03: Where does the Little Caesars Arena in Detroit, do you know that place?
3:04:46
SPEAKER_02: No idea.
3:04:47
SPEAKER_03: Let's find a place.
3:04:54
SPEAKER_03: To do Prudential Center, that's pretty big, right?
3:04:57
SPEAKER_03: In New Jersey.
3:05:00
SPEAKER_03: TD Garden, that's where the Celtics play.
3:05:03
SPEAKER_03: It's probably 15,000, right?
3:05:09
SPEAKER_03: Hmm.
3:05:10
SPEAKER_03: United Center in Chicago.
3:05:14
SPEAKER_03: How many does that hold?
3:05:15
SPEAKER_02: Like 20,000.
3:05:16
SPEAKER_03: All right, so it's just a standard...
3:05:19
SPEAKER_03: It's an arena.
3:05:20
SPEAKER_02: It's an arena tour.
3:05:22
SPEAKER_02: It's where the Hawks play.
3:05:27
SPEAKER_03: Well, I guess Def Leppard and the Goo Goo Dolls,
3:05:28
SPEAKER_03: and it's being advertised,
3:05:30
SPEAKER_03: at least on all these ticket things, as Def Leppard and Goo Goo Dolls.
3:05:37
SPEAKER_03: All right, well...
3:05:41
SPEAKER_03: To wrap this up, another tour to skip.
3:05:45
SPEAKER_03: There's no reason to go.
3:05:47
SPEAKER_02: Unless, of course, you get freebies.
3:05:51
SPEAKER_03: Like I said, I'm not even going to ask.
3:05:52
SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to blow that favor for that.
3:05:56
SPEAKER_03: I'll hold on to that favor for something better.
3:06:00
SPEAKER_03: If I get it through vet ticks or something, maybe I'll go.
3:06:02
SPEAKER_03: But I'm not going to burn a favor for that.
3:06:06
SPEAKER_03: No way.
3:06:07
SPEAKER_03: It's a waste of a good favor.
3:06:11
SPEAKER_03: I'd rather hold on to that favor and get another big band at some point to interview.
3:06:16
SPEAKER_02: You don't want to see Johnny Resnick?
3:06:18
SPEAKER_03: No.
3:06:20
SPEAKER_03: How many times the Goo Goo Dolls have been here and I wasn't at those shows?
3:06:23
SPEAKER_03: All of them.
3:06:26
SPEAKER_03: Every last one of them.
3:06:29
SPEAKER_03: Come on, Chris.
3:06:31
SPEAKER_03: Junk.
3:06:32
SPEAKER_02: Come on, Chris.
3:06:33
SPEAKER_03: No, no, thank you.
3:06:35
SPEAKER_02: Go to the Goo Goo Dolls.
3:06:36
SPEAKER_03: No.
3:06:41
SPEAKER_03: I don't like them.
3:06:44
SPEAKER_03: That is not my thing.
3:06:46
SPEAKER_02: No?
3:06:47
SPEAKER_03: Nope.
3:06:48
SPEAKER_02: Not doing it for you.
3:06:49
SPEAKER_03: Nah.
3:06:50
SPEAKER_03: All right.
3:06:51
SPEAKER_03: Let's get the fuck out of here.
3:06:53
SPEAKER_02: All right.
3:06:54
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3:07:00
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3:07:01
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3:07:23
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3:07:24
SPEAKER_02: All right.
3:07:25
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm going to leave you with some galactic cowboys.
3:07:28
SPEAKER_02: I know that you talked to Monty.
3:07:32
SPEAKER_02: I did.
3:07:32
SPEAKER_02: Recently.
3:07:33
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
3:07:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, King Trump.
3:07:36
SPEAKER_02: We'd like to end the show with the Galactic Cowboys in a Lonely Room.
3:07:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, good.
3:07:42
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
3:07:42
SPEAKER_02: We're going to end the show with some Galactic Cowboys,
3:07:45
SPEAKER_02: and we're going to get out of here, hopefully.
3:07:47
SPEAKER_02: Wait, you're not ending with the Goo Goo Dolls?
3:07:49
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not.
3:07:50
SPEAKER_03: Damn it.
3:07:52
SPEAKER_02: I would just cue up Iris if I was a team player, but I'm not.
3:07:58
SPEAKER_03: Well, next week,
3:07:59
SPEAKER_03: let's start with the Goo Goo Dolls and we'll throw some Matchbox 20 in there
3:08:02
SPEAKER_03: as well.
3:08:03
SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
3:08:04
SPEAKER_03: Get the show off and running next week.
3:08:07
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
3:08:08
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm going to bow to the pressures of the fans who actually support us.
3:08:13
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
3:08:14
SPEAKER_02: And play some Galactic Cowboys.
3:08:16
SPEAKER_02: That works.
3:08:17
SPEAKER_02: So for King Trump, we're going to end the show with In a Lonely Room.
3:08:22
SPEAKER_02: So until next Saturday night, this is Neely along with my very good friend.
3:08:27
SPEAKER_02: Chris Agin.
3:08:28
SPEAKER_02: We're gone.
3:08:29
Bye, kids.
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