Latest / Growing Closer to God with Guided Meditation / Gen Z's Insights on Faith: An Interview with Sammy! #152
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- 0:00Pastor Robert Young: What do Gen Z think of church and faith?
- 0:03Pastor Robert Young: We will be talking to Sammy next on the podcast to answer this question.
- 0:08Pastor Robert Young: Ever wonder how and if the Bible has relevance for today?
- 0:11Pastor Robert Young: On this podcast we provide biblical answers to today's tough questions.
- 0:16Pastor Robert Young: Hi friends, I'm Pastor Robert Young.
- 0:19Pastor Robert Young: We have 30 plus years of church planting and mentoring other pastors, 30 plus years of training leaders in evangelism and discipleship.
- 0:28Pastor Robert Young: Our team of missionaries go into jails, rehabs, parks, street corners, coffee houses and any place unchurched people gather.
- 0:39Pastor Robert Young: We present the true, untainted gospel.
- 0:41Pastor Robert Young: We ask questions and give answers as we conduct surveys.
- 0:45Pastor Robert Young: We do this so that you can make a true, informed decision about Jesus Christ.
- 0:52Pastor Robert Young: Hi friends, pastor Young here back again, and today on the phone we have Sammy, and Sammy is going to give us a story of how o his walk of faith in God, and should be quite interesting.
- 1:06Pastor Robert Young: Sammy is uh, how old are you, by the way, sammy?
- 1:09Pastor Robert Young: Uh, I'm 18, 18.
- 1:11Pastor Robert Young: So we're going to get a different perspective, uh, from an 18 year old, which is a good thing.
- 1:16Pastor Robert Young: We want more of that.
- 1:17Pastor Robert Young: So, uh, sammy, just say hi to to our, to our listeners, hello, so.
- 1:23Pastor Robert Young: So, sammy, how long have you been a Christian?
- 1:29Sammy: I've been a Christian my whole life.
- 1:31Sammy: I grew up, you know, going to churches and stuff, so it's been with me my whole life.
- 1:38Pastor Robert Young: Well, good, good, glad to hear that.
- 1:39Pastor Robert Young: So you don't know anything different other than just being a Christian.
- 1:43Sammy: I mean I couldn't see life without it.
- 1:44Sammy: Honestly, amen.
- 1:44Sammy: I just I don't know anything different other than just being a Christian.
- 1:45Sammy: I mean I couldn't see life without it honestly.
- 1:45Sammy: Amen.
- 1:45Sammy: I just, I don't know.
- 1:47Sammy: I feel like it just wouldn't be my way, Like I don't know it wouldn't be my walk, Right, right right, okay, well, before we go any further, I got a couple of statistics I want to throw at you.
- 2:00Pastor Robert Young: You may know of this, you may not, I don't know.
- 2:02Pastor Robert Young: One is people in your age group, younger generations, are not going to church like the generations before them.
- 2:12Pastor Robert Young: And when I say church I mean traditional brick and mortar church, house church, any kind of church Is that something that you're seeing in your circles?
- 2:47Sammy: no-transcript.
- 2:58Pastor Robert Young: Wow.
- 2:58Pastor Robert Young: Well, the research has been saying for quite a while that we have something called the nuns, n-o-n.
- 3:00Pastor Robert Young: This is a short abbreviation for a term that means that people are non-believers, they're non, anything.
- 3:05Pastor Robert Young: They don't believe in God, they don't believe in church, they don't believe in any of those things.
- 3:10Pastor Robert Young: Yeah Well, the second point I wanted to touch on is parents are not and this is from a bunch of research from a bunch of very smart people.
- 3:22Pastor Robert Young: I didn't come up with this on my own, no, no, yeah, a bunch of very smart people.
- 3:25Pastor Robert Young: I didn't come up with this on my own, Parents are not teaching their children about God, although the Bible says for parents to do that.
- 3:33Pastor Robert Young: Is that something I think I already know?
- 3:36Pastor Robert Young: The answer to this Is that something that you're seeing in your circles of influence as well?
- 3:42Sammy: If the circles are my family, like specifically, like you know, my parents, my dad and my stepmom and stuff I would say that wouldn't be the case, because I've always been raised up to learn more about Jesus and learn that.
- 3:55Sammy: But I do have friends that don't know about Jesus and it's because their parents took that opportunity away from them by not teaching them.
- 4:05Pastor Robert Young: So yeah, I like the way you put that.
- 4:08Pastor Robert Young: They took that opportunity away from them by not doing it, that's good.
- 4:13Pastor Robert Young: I like that.
- 4:14Pastor Robert Young: So may I ask this delicate question and you can answer if you feel comfortable, of course.
- 4:22Pastor Robert Young: Are you spreading the gospel?
- 4:25Sammy: I try to my best.
- 4:26Sammy: I try to talk to my friends about God a lot, as much as I possibly can, without trying to force it on them or anything.
- 4:35Sammy: But any chance I get to talk about God I definitely take that opportunity and I do it as much as possible.
- 4:42Sammy: So I do, I try my best.
- 4:46Pastor Robert Young: Amen, that's all that God can ask.
- 4:48Pastor Robert Young: Well, sammy, you are an avid Bible reader, I'm guessing, or a Bible listener, I should say.
- 4:58Sammy: No, I actually haven't started reading the Bible yet, but I really want to, so I'm going to definitely start reading.
- 5:07Pastor Robert Young: You know, I have a few people that I'm talking to about Jesus and I turn them on to Bible apps.
- 5:14Pastor Robert Young: And this one guy he's like in his 30s.
- 5:18Pastor Robert Young: He listens to the Bible being read to him on his way to work because he has like a 45 minute drive to his job.
- 5:26Pastor Robert Young: So going to work he's listening to the Bible for like 40 minutes and coming home the same thing.
- 5:32Pastor Robert Young: So that is definitely an option as well.
- 5:35Pastor Robert Young: I mean, with the modern technology that we have now, there's a lot of folks and you can get that app in many different translations.
- 5:45Pastor Robert Young: There's a lot of people, even in my age group, don't seem to be able to grasp the King James version, but the other versions are pretty much saying the same thing.
- 5:56Pastor Robert Young: Yeah, just in plainer English, I would say I would say, okay,
- 6:02Pastor Robert Young: if you had to give some advice or some words of wisdom to people in your age group, what would you say to them?
- 6:15Sammy: I think there's a lot of like judgment.
- 6:18Sammy: I guess, Like a lot of people my age, will judge anybody over anything.
- 6:22Sammy: You know things they've done, mistakes they've made.
- 6:25Sammy: I just feel like we should treat people how Jesus treated people back then.
- 6:31Sammy: I've been trying very hard lately to show love to everyone, no matter who they are and what they've done.
- 6:39Sammy: I've just tried to show as much love as possible and I've just tried to show as much love as possible.
- 6:45Sammy: So I think we all should show love and don't judge anybody based on what they've done or what they've said, and look at the deeper person they are.
- 6:54Pastor Robert Young: Oh, you mean like what Jesus would do?
- 6:58Sammy: Yeah, yeah, got, it Got it OK, got it.
- 7:03Pastor Robert Young: Good point, very good point.
- 7:04Pastor Robert Young: Now, what would you say to people and older people?
- 7:12Sammy: Be open-minded, I guess, because you know, I feel like I mean, I don't know because I'm not there yet, but I've noticed, like older people, that they can, like I don't know, get shut off, I guess, and only be like focused on one thing, and I think you just have to be aware of other people's stories and stuff, and sometimes you're like, nope, this is the way, this is how it should be, and I feel like sometimes you just have to be more open minded for other people and how they've lived and stuff.
- 7:42Pastor Robert Young: Well, I got to tell you that is a big thing in this age group.
- 7:44Pastor Robert Young: Well, I got to tell you that is a big thing in this age group we can be so close-minded that we can only see things one way and no matter what, we just kind of see if.
- 8:01Pastor Robert Young: Any struggles have you had with your Christianity or your faith in God versus some of the moral values of the friends and people that you hang out with Not family members per se, but just, you know, people around your age.
- 8:17Sammy: So what are you like?
- 8:18Sammy: You're asking me.
- 8:20Sammy: Wait, what are you asking?
- 8:22Sammy: Sorry me wait.
- 8:24Pastor Robert Young: Have your, your faith in god come in conflict with some of the moral values of some of your friends?
- 8:30Sammy: for any times.
- 8:32Pastor Robert Young: Can you give us an example?
- 8:35Sammy: um, I have my friend.
- 8:38Sammy: He's real close with me.
- 8:39Sammy: We've been friends since I came to East Rochester that's the school I go to and I've been friends with him for like four years.
- 8:47Sammy: But he's Muslim, so he believes in different things than I do and his beliefs counter some of the beliefs I believe in and we like talk about things like that and there's just some things you don't agree on, but it doesn't bother me because I still love him as a person, you know.
- 9:09Pastor Robert Young: Wow, OK, to all the listeners out there, there is a lesson right there, especially for us older people we can disagree, but still not become enemies.
- 9:20Pastor Robert Young: Oh my goodness.
- 9:20Pastor Robert Young: Now this is something that we need to preach on the rooftops, especially in our current climate.
- 9:27Pastor Robert Young: You know, nowadays, when you don't agree with somebody, then they're automatically the devil.
- 9:31Sammy: It's like no, they're not necessarily.
- 9:33Pastor Robert Young: Right, right, it's terrible.
- 9:35Pastor Robert Young: Well, we do have hope for your generation that you guys can continue the work that the generations before you have started to do but just didn't get it all the way accomplished.
- 9:49Pastor Robert Young: Can you see something like that happening?
- 9:55Sammy: Yes, I do think that could definitely be a possibility.
- 9:59Sammy: Yes, I do think that could.
- 10:03Sammy: That could definitely be a possibility.
- 10:06Sammy: I would definitely be what is the word?
- 10:08Sammy: Down to do it?
- 10:12Sammy: I guess yes, yes, like I'd be very down to do that, and I know a couple of people that I think would do it as well.
- 10:17Pastor Robert Young: So, so, sammy, you said earlier that your parents have been teaching you the Bible since as far back as you can remember.
- 10:28Pastor Robert Young: It's always been a part of your life.
- 10:33Pastor Robert Young: Is that true?
- 10:34Pastor Robert Young: Yes, and you come from a big family, a big family, yeah, very big.
- 10:37Pastor Robert Young: And so everyone in the family has been taught about Christ.
- 10:42Pastor Robert Young: Is that correct?
- 10:44Sammy: Yeah, in my household at least.
- 10:46Sammy: Yeah, yeah.
- 10:47Pastor Robert Young: Yes, yes, without getting into too much information about your family.
- 10:50Pastor Robert Young: How many would you say, or what is the percentage of people who have stuck with the teachings?
- 10:57Pastor Robert Young: And I got a point that I'm trying to get to here, and the point is this A lot of kids in
- 11:11Pastor Robert Young: your age group, and I don't want to make this about age or age discrimination or anything, but they say a lot of times when the kids get to college age, they're going off to college and they go to some liberal college.
- 11:19Pastor Robert Young: specially those that have come from Christian homes where the Bible had been taught to them since day one, or whatever they say.
- 11:28Pastor Robert Young: When they get to college, a lot of them lose their faith.
- 11:32Pastor Robert Young: Whether they really had it at the beginning with I don't know, that's a different question.
- 11:36Pastor Robert Young: And they say a lot of them do not go back to the faith, and those that do go back to the faith eventually is usually much, much, much, much later in life.
- 11:48Pastor Robert Young: So what do you think we could do as Christians to prevent that from happening?
- 11:56Pastor Robert Young: I know that's a crazy question, but I remember one of um cause.
- 12:02Pastor Robert Young: You know, I've always got like five jobs.
- 12:04Pastor Robert Young: One of my jobs is I work at a college and I see this all the time.
- 12:11Sammy: Um, I think just you know, I don't know, just talk about it, cause a lot of people, I don't know, just talk about it, cause a lot of people I guess just they like are scared to talk about them and like about Jesus and his, uh, his work he's done and I think we just have to talk about it more and not be so scared and skeptical.
- 12:32Pastor Robert Young: Um, well, wha What exactly are they afraid of?
- 12:35Pastor Robert Young: That they're going to be judged or ridiculed or ostracized?
- 12:39Sammy: I don't know, just like, yeah, being judged.
- 12:41Sammy: And just like you know, if their friends don't want to accept them after they talk about it, they're like, oh, you talk too much about God, this, that and the third.
- 12:50Sammy: I don't know, people are just scared of being judged, I guess.
- 12:56Pastor Robert Young: Yeah, we do have a lot of that going on in our world, don't we?
- 12:58Pastor Robert Young: We do a lot that we do.
- 13:02Pastor Robert Young: Even though Matthew 7 and 1 said judge not that you be not judged.
- 13:04Pastor Robert Young: Well, are you planning on going off to college once you finish high school?
- 13:13Sammy: No, I was going to go straight into trades.
- 13:16Pastor Robert Young: Good choice, good choice, good choice.
- 13:17Pastor Robert Young: That's another episode for another time, that more people should go to trade school because you don't get encumbered with all those, those student loans.
- 13:26Pastor Robert Young: Yeah, I'm good.
- 13:29Pastor Robert Young: Different, different, different episode.
- 13:30Pastor Robert Young: Ok, so what kind of trade would you be going into, if I can ask?
- 13:37Sammy: Electrician I'm taking a class for right now in high school.
- 13:40Pastor Robert Young: Nice.
- 13:40Sammy: Nice, so in high school.
- 13:42Sammy: Yeah, it's a EMCC BOCES program.
- 13:45Sammy: Yeah, yeah.
- 13:47Pastor Robert Young: Wow yeah.
- 13:47Sammy: It's where, uh, it's where you can learn about a trade or doing hair or something Just like a life skill, I guess.
- 13:55Sammy: Yeah yeah, wow, if you want to learn about it.
- 13:58Pastor Robert Young: That's good to know.
- 13:59Pastor Robert Young: Good to know.
- 13:59Pastor Robert Young: Do you have any questions for us?
- 14:04Sammy: No, None that I can think of as of right now.
- 14:09Pastor Robert Young: Well, my last question for you then.
- 14:26Pastor Robert Young: Well, my last question for you then would you tell someone in your circle of influence not family members per se, but just because there's so many people from the current generation that don't want any part of religion or faith in God because of the way religion and faith in God was presented to them as a child and they rebelled against it, and now they don't want any part of it.
- 14:50Pastor Robert Young: It's mostly based on misinformation and abuse of the scriptures from the parents or somebody who were trying their best to teach them but just went about it the wrong way.
- 15:04Pastor Robert Young: So one of the things that we want to clarify, in our title is that we like to present the untainted gospel so that a person can make a true, informed decision about Jesus Christ.
- 15:19Pastor Robert Young: And once they get all the misinformation and all the fallacies and the falsehoods and all the other stuff that's out there about true Christianity, most people say, huh, I don't have a problem with that.
- 15:31Pastor Robert Young: So back to the question.
- 15:34Pastor Robert Young: The question is would you tell someone about the podcast?
- 15:37Pastor Robert Young: Yeah, I would, okay, and I'm going to send you a link so that you can give it to them too, so you can evangelize even at this age.
- 15:46Pastor Robert Young: That's something to think about evangelism to help this generation to see the hope, because, honestly, this generation of young people are going to see things probably a little bit tougher than what we had.
- 16:02Pastor Robert Young: Not that we had it easy when I was growing up, but a little bit tougher because things are just in chaos right now.
- 16:11Pastor Robert Young: Would you agree with that?
- 16:12Pastor Robert Young: Yeah, I would agree with that, okay.
- 16:12Pastor Robert Young: But we know that God is the hope in the midst of all the chaos and the nonsense and everything else.
- 16:19Pastor Robert Young: Amen, amen, amen.
- 16:21Pastor Robert Young: So, ammy, that's about all the questions I have for you, okay.
- 16:25Pastor Robert Young: If you can think of any other questions that you want to ask me, text it to me, okay, and we can make a full episode out of something like that.
- 16:35Sammy: Okay.
- 16:37Pastor Robert Young: So, okay, well, thank you for calling in today and giving us your testimony.
- 16:41Pastor Robert Young: And, to summarize to our listeners, ammy is 18.
- 16:45Pastor Robert Young: He's been raised in a Christian home since he can remember, yeah, and he's still holding on to the faith, even after all these years, thank God, and he's talking to some of his, his friends, about Jesus and will continue to do so.
- 17:02Pastor Robert Young: So let that be an encouragement to you that might be listening, that you might be a young person, but you can still live a life for Christ.
- 17:11Pastor Robert Young: Amen, amen, amen.
- 17:12Pastor Robert Young: Well, god bless you, sammy.
- 17:13Pastor Robert Young: A life for Christ, amen, amen, amen.
- 17:13Pastor Robert Young: Well, God bless you, sammy.
- 17:15Pastor Robert Young: Thank you for calling and we will talk to you soon.
- 17:16Pastor Robert Young: Okay, all right, all right, god bless.
- 17:19Pastor Robert Young: Bye-bye, bye.
- 17:21Pastor Robert Young: Okay, friends, we've been talking on the phone with Sammy, 18-year-old Sammy, who is still hanging in there for Christ.
- 17:29Pastor Robert Young: And listen, if you have been listening to this podcast for any length of time and you've decided that you want this Jesus Christ that we're talking about, you've heard Sammy's testimony and you said to yourself listen, whatever that young kid's got, I want it too.
- 17:44Pastor Robert Young: I want that Jesus to be the Lord and Savior of my life.
- 17:48Pastor Robert Young: Then there's one thing, two things, that you need to do?
- 17:51Pastor Robert Young: First, the Bible says that we've all sinned and fallen short of the glory of pleasing God.
- 17:56Pastor Robert Young: We've all done some type of wrong somewhere in our life.
- 17:58Pastor Robert Young: But we must come to God and ask him to forgive us of our sins and to believe that Jesus Christ, od's only son, only begotten son, died on the cross and paid that price that we could not pay, so that we could have a renewed relationship with God.
- 18:15Pastor Robert Young: Then say this simple sinner's prayer with me today, father, I come to you today.
- 18:23Pastor Robert Young: I repent of my sins.
- 18:25Pastor Robert Young: I believe that Jesus Christ died on that cross for me.
- 18:30Pastor Robert Young: I receive him now as my Savior and my Lord and my guide.
- 18:34Pastor Robert Young: I pray that you would fill me with the precious gift of the Holy Ghost so that I may be able to live this righteous life that you speak of, that you want from us.
- 18:47Pastor Robert Young: I want a relationship with you.
- 18:49Pastor Robert Young: I believe that Jesus Christ died for me and I receive him now in his name.
- 18:56Pastor Robert Young: Amen.
- 18:59Pastor Robert Young: Well, friends, listen, if you've said that with a sincere heart, the Bible lets us know that somewhere up in heaven there's a book called the Lamb's Book of Life and your name has been written on it.
- 19:08Pastor Robert Young: So when you leave this plane of existence, God is going to bring you into his kingdom, and long before you get to heaven, long before you die, od can give you the peace that passes all understanding.
- 19:22Pastor Robert Young: No matter what's going on, god can still give you that peace and joy and happiness that everybody seems to be seeking for, but seeking some are seeking in the wrong direction.
- 19:32Pastor Robert Young: Everybody seems to be seeking for, but seeking some are seeking in the wrong direction.
- 19:35Pastor Robert Young: So, listen, if you need more information or clarification or have questions, do not hesitate to get in contact with us, and all of the ways to get in contact with us in the description box below.
- 19:46Pastor Robert Young: And until next time, I am your host, pastor Robert Young this is Not your Parents Religion podcast and we will see you then, and may God bless you.
- 19:56Pastor Robert Young: You.