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Drake Maye for MVP? Week 10 NFL Recap + Joey McGuire On Texas Tech’s BYU Win & The Transfer Portal · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Packer's mind life. Do you do you like keep up
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  Speaker 1: with the college football world?
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  Speaker 5: I mean I watch it casually. I don't study it
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  Speaker 5: or follow it to in depth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's so much fun to watch college football knowing.
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  Speaker 6: It's a great product. It's just a mess of a sport.
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  Speaker 2: Knowing as much as you know about college football, or
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  Speaker 2: or just football in general, when you watch college you
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  Speaker 2: see all these idiotic mistakes taking place, so all these
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  Speaker 2: crazy explosives happen. It is so entertaining. The NFL. It's
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  Speaker 2: just it's so put together, that's the thing. It's like
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  Speaker 2: the good teams are just gonna play good ball, continue
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  Speaker 2: to win, do their thing. Like you watch the Patriots,
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  Speaker 2: it's like they don't make mistakes. They have their explosive
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  Speaker 2: runs here and there the other exploit, but it's like
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  Speaker 2: they're just gonna keep trudge along. They might be the
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  Speaker 2: best team is Mike Vrabel.
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  Speaker 1: You're coach of the year right now? Greg?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so, I think And again I'm not
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  Speaker 5: sure if they have the roster. I think there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people saying, you know, they're gonna win the
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  Speaker 5: Super Bowl. I'm not there yet. I think obviously they're
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  Speaker 5: a great story. I think Drake may finds himself in
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  Speaker 5: the top, you know, probably three guys in the MVP race,
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  Speaker 5: three or four. I can make an argument that are
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  Speaker 5: all kind of in it together. I think Varebel is
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  Speaker 5: the front runner byle I can't. I'm trying to think
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  Speaker 5: who would even be McDonald?
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  Speaker 6: McDonald.
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  Speaker 5: I guess the reason Verbel. I guess the reason Verebel
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  Speaker 5: holds it for me is just considering obviously he's just
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  Speaker 5: getting started. Yeah, you know, like he's just he's brand new,
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  Speaker 5: and and how bad they've been prior. It's not so
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  Speaker 5: much that they're good, it's how fast they've gotten good.
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  Speaker 5: I think we saw elements of Seattle last year, even
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  Speaker 5: though the offense was a bit disjointed, and obviously he
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  Speaker 5: McDonald realized pretty quickly that he had to get that
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  Speaker 5: figured out bringing in Kubiak. But yeah, that's what That's
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  Speaker 5: what gives the lead in my mind to Vrabel, just
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  Speaker 5: how good he's gotten a team that's been bad for
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they've been like bad, bad for multiple seasons
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  Speaker 5: prior to him getting there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, who oh, yeah, I forget he does. He's probably
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  Speaker 1: got o port NOOI say they're gonna win the super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: but let me ask you this his video, his video
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  Speaker 1: with Robert Kraft in the suite.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, listen, they are good. I'm just I'm not there.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not ready to say they're going to win the
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  Speaker 5: super Bowl yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl is a stretch.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing holding them back is a roster because
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  Speaker 2: they really they have the buy in. They play, they
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  Speaker 2: play the game well, but it's like, at what point
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  Speaker 2: do you get overwhelmed because they just they actually just
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  Speaker 2: don't have the talent on the roster to be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is a super Bowl contending team, but they Drake
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  Speaker 2: May I mean, imagine if he had like number one
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  Speaker 2: wide receivers not not Stefan Diggs is coming off in
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  Speaker 2: a cl not Boody, who you know, kind of has
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  Speaker 2: been like a you don't really know what he is.
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  Speaker 2: He's a two or is he a three? He's just
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  Speaker 2: who It doesn't matter who's out there. He is just
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  Speaker 2: putting the ball where it needs to be.
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  Speaker 1: Tight En Henry. Let me ask you guys something. If
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots win the a f C East, and let's
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  Speaker 1: just say they're three four lost team and there are
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  Speaker 1: one seed in the a f C, how do you
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  Speaker 1: not give Drake May the m v P if he
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  Speaker 1: continues to play at the level, Like I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: who's in your mind probably.
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  Speaker 6: Think if he gets the number one seed, I think
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  Speaker 6: you do.
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  Speaker 2: The not the knock, because I agree, but the knock
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  Speaker 2: is going to be their schedule because everyone even when
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  Speaker 2: you put out I know it's the NFL, but even
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  Speaker 2: when I tweeted out yesterday, the Patriots are the best
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  Speaker 2: team in the NFL, and all all the people that
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  Speaker 2: are anti Patriots is just all the conversation is revolving
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  Speaker 2: around their schedule and how bad it is because they
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  Speaker 2: what they were fourth last year in the AFC East,
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  Speaker 2: So your fourth obviously you're playing against all the other
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  Speaker 2: fourth as well.
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  Speaker 1: And I just think, so you got him winning the
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl. If you're saying that the.
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  Speaker 2: Best I think the best team in the NFL right now,
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  Speaker 2: I think the I think the Super Bowl winner is
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  Speaker 2: going to come out of the NFC West.
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  Speaker 1: You think the Patriots right now are playing at a
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  Speaker 1: higher level than the Rams than the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're playing at a higher level. Yes, from
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  Speaker 2: what they have, they are doing more with less than
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  Speaker 2: the other team. Drake may is playing MVP caliber right now,
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  Speaker 2: November tenth, whatever day it is, They're the best team
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL. Even though I mean the Seahawks put
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  Speaker 2: a crazy display on defense and offense, and Sam Donald's
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  Speaker 2: playing credible. I think eventually the Patriots are going to lose.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to lose one or two or even three
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  Speaker 2: more games, even with the easy schedule they have. I
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  Speaker 2: Sean McVay, McDonald, those are the two coaches that I
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  Speaker 2: see hoisting Lombardi at this point going into the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: It's a mind twist right there. I got Seattle on
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  Speaker 1: the Rams better than the if they played tomorrow. I
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  Speaker 1: got Seattle and the Rams both beating the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, God Seattle, Seattle.
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  Speaker 5: We talked about I think we talked about this last
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  Speaker 5: week that coming into the season, the presumption.
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  Speaker 6: Was the AFC had all the heavy.
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  Speaker 5: Hitters, right know, the three big horse you know, m
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  Speaker 5: VP guys with Lamar, Josh Allen and and Mahomes. And
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  Speaker 5: then the next tier of a FC teams that everyone
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  Speaker 5: thought were on the rise. I mean, I think everyone
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  Speaker 5: Denver has I guess the best record. Aren't they right
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  Speaker 5: now the best? I don't think anyone pretends that they're
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  Speaker 5: the best team in the conference. I don't think that's
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  Speaker 5: if you've watched them play at.
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  Speaker 1: Last week.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, after that game was easy to jump ship.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry, no, no, So.
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  Speaker 5: I think coming into the season, right it's always been
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  Speaker 5: where do all the heavy hitting quarterbacks lie. They've they've
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  Speaker 5: lied in the a f C. Now they've got another
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  Speaker 5: one in Drake May. But I think right now, the
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  Speaker 5: best teams, the best balanced offense, defense, passing, game coaching.
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  Speaker 5: I think the best teams are in the NFC. I
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  Speaker 5: think the depth of quality NFC teams, even if all
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  Speaker 5: the superstar name quarterbacks might be on the other, you know,
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  Speaker 5: in the a f C. I think the Rams, I
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  Speaker 5: think Seattle. I still think Philly's going to be in
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  Speaker 5: it down the stretch, just because they've got their rosters
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  Speaker 5: so good and they've been there before. You know, you could.
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  Speaker 5: I still think Green Bay is going to be in
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  Speaker 5: the mix when it all comes. You know, Tonight's game
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  Speaker 5: is going to be awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Detroit.
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  Speaker 5: Detroit's still going to be in the mix. Dan Campbell
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  Speaker 5: takes over play calling. They score a thousand points in
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  Speaker 5: five hundred yards, so it's uh. I just I think
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  Speaker 5: the quality Tampa Bay. I think if they ever get
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  Speaker 5: all of their guys back healthy. I know they lost
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  Speaker 5: obviously yesterday to New England, but you know it feels
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  Speaker 5: like that's a roster that just needs to get some
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  Speaker 5: of their guys back and their contender. I mean, you
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  Speaker 5: look at the potentially the seven teams out of the
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  Speaker 5: NFC in the playoffs, I think you can make an
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  Speaker 5: argument that all seven, regardless if you're the seventh while
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  Speaker 5: you're the seventh seed wildcard or the number one seed
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  Speaker 5: with the bye, I think you can make an argument
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  Speaker 5: you could see all of them making a run.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that absolutely. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: just the thing about the Patriots that right now making
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  Speaker 2: the best team to me is the balance they have
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  Speaker 2: on offense. Like Drake May has been outstanding throwing a
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  Speaker 2: deep ball. But I know this conversation always goes back
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  Speaker 2: to the run game, Greg, but they ran the ball effectively.
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  Speaker 2: They had explosives. Was it Henderson? Is that his name? Henderson?
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  Speaker 2: Two explosives, two touchdowns, the fact that he's as fast
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  Speaker 2: as he is, he's able to look over the silence.
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  Speaker 1: Should I score?
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  Speaker 2: Should I not score? Like that, that team, to me
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  Speaker 2: is playing the best football in the NFL. Right now
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  Speaker 2: we're going I mean, did you guys were able to
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  Speaker 2: watch the Seattle Cardinals game? No, that was incredible. The
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  Speaker 2: game was just watching Seattle and then being able to
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  Speaker 2: take over in the first quarter. Was I think they
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  Speaker 2: scored their twenty first point like three seconds into the second.
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  Speaker 1: Quarter, because then they have a defensive touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: They had two defensive touchdowns. It was Knight who caused
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  Speaker 2: both fumbles, and it was DeMarcus Lawrence who picked up
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  Speaker 2: the ball both times and scored touchdowns. And like the
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  Speaker 2: players were like identical. I might have been the same
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  Speaker 2: as thatc Blitz. And then the first drive obviously Sam
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  Speaker 2: Donald goes in those at the JSN. Who's putting up
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  Speaker 2: numbers that no one's ever seen before. He's on pace
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  Speaker 2: to break the record. Like that was a fun, fun
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  Speaker 2: game to watch.
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  Speaker 1: How do you go out?
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  Speaker 6: No go ahead? No go ahead? I was just gonnaga.
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  Speaker 6: I was going to say, you said.
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  Speaker 1: Just to look ahead the next weekend because Rams got
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  Speaker 1: Seattle next weekend.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I got the game.
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  Speaker 1: Oh what do you what do you think?
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  Speaker 5: It's the best game of the season from a pure
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  Speaker 5: from a pure football team standpoint, coaching, rosters, quarterback play,
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  Speaker 5: all of it, style of play. I think I think
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  Speaker 5: through eleven weeks it's the best.
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  Speaker 6: It's the best. Now can the game live up to it?
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  Speaker 6: Who knows.
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  Speaker 5: We've had some incredible, fun, dramatic games, great endings, overtimes,
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  Speaker 5: so who knows if it lives up to that. But
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  Speaker 5: just the billing of the matchup, two of the best
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  Speaker 5: three teams at worst for two of the best four
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  Speaker 5: at worst in the entire league going going up against
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  Speaker 5: each other. I am thrilled that we got this game.
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  Speaker 5: And they're two of my favorite teams to study. I
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  Speaker 5: think the style in which they play, they're both using
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  Speaker 5: that big personnel stuff we talked about at length last week.
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  Speaker 6: We talked about Seattle's doing.
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  Speaker 5: It out of twelve and the Rams are The Rams
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  Speaker 5: have been an eleven three wide receiver team for a
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  Speaker 5: thousand years, and all of a sudden, now they're in thirteen,
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  Speaker 5: big jumbo personnel, big bodies, and they're just wearing teams out.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a fascinating storyline, both teams, both quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's the through eleven games, the game of
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  Speaker 5: the year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. Who would you have? Who would
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  Speaker 1: you edge it out to going into this game?
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  Speaker 5: I'd have to tell you on Friday. I haven't started,
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  Speaker 5: like really diving in and studying them just yet. I've
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  Speaker 5: had each team once, but real early in the season,
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  Speaker 5: I had the Rams in that game that they really
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  Speaker 5: played well through the first half, and then Philly came
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  Speaker 5: to life blocked a couple of those field goals there
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  Speaker 5: at the end to beat the Rams in Philly early.
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  Speaker 5: And then I had the week one game of Seattle,
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  Speaker 5: so it was the first game of Kubiak, first game
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  Speaker 5: of Sam Darnold. They lost at home to the forty
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  Speaker 5: nine ers. So it's been a while since I've actually
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  Speaker 5: studied them and had them. I just watched them from afar,
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  Speaker 5: But I think they're both really good. Come Friday, I
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  Speaker 5: can give you a better assessment. But man, it's the
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  Speaker 5: best matchup bar none.
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  Speaker 1: Staying in the NFC previewing tonight's game with the Packers Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: who do you see coming out on top of there
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  Speaker 1: in Green Bay.
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  Speaker 5: I saw a stat that Green Bay hasn't lost back
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  Speaker 5: to back games in like twelve years or something outrageous,
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  Speaker 5: So you know, I always kind of look at those
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  Speaker 5: stats with a grain of salt because, like, none of
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  Speaker 5: these guys were ever a part of that twelve year run.
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  Speaker 5: But we saw green Bay stink it up. I was
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  Speaker 5: there live called it in that loss to the Panthers.
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  Speaker 5: So I expect them to bounce back. I expect them
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  Speaker 5: to be a little bit more aggressive offensively at home.
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  Speaker 5: I've just seen Philly too many times be look dead
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  Speaker 5: to rights and then you look up in the fourth
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  Speaker 5: quarter and they're winning. They're just such a hard team
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  Speaker 5: to beat traditionally over the last couple of years. If
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  Speaker 5: you put a gun to my head right now, I
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  Speaker 5: think Philly's, Philly wins. But I think Green Bay looks
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  Speaker 5: light years better than they did last week. I think
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  Speaker 5: they take the the Governor off. I think they put
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  Speaker 5: the game in Jordan Love's hand. Let him go out
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  Speaker 5: there and be the dynamic passer that he is. Don't
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  Speaker 5: play the style of all these other teams want to
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  Speaker 5: and muddy it up. Is the weather going to be nice?
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  Speaker 5: I have no idea is they're going to be a
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  Speaker 5: decent night in Lambeau. Do you guys have any idea,
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  Speaker 5: no clue.
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  Speaker 1: Let's pretend that it is a little chilly.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, things a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: But if it's a neutral, normal day and they can
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  Speaker 5: you know, they can let it rip and throw it,
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  Speaker 5: I think, uh, I mean, I have to imagine that
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  Speaker 5: a hell of a lot better than they did last
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  Speaker 5: week against Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: I dude, I got a question for you, just from
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  Speaker 2: a broadcasting standpoint, when you obviously you're one of the
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  Speaker 2: best in the game now, but when you were first
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  Speaker 2: starting and you would catch a game like that Packers
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  Speaker 2: Panthers game last week, was there like a new level
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  Speaker 2: of stress when we'd be like, yo, this game's lotless,
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  Speaker 2: kind of shitty. There's nothing really to talk about, whether
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  Speaker 2: there's like a panic mode in the second half or
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  Speaker 2: was it always kind of just easy for you to
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  Speaker 2: go through everything.
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  Speaker 6: No, those are the worst. Those are the worst games, right.
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  Speaker 5: So that's the irony of calling games is you know
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  Speaker 5: you're never gonna make everybody happy. Everybody thinks when you're
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  Speaker 5: negative or critical of their team or a decision that
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: you don't like the coach or you have history with
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  Speaker 5: the organization, or you know it's because of some random
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  Speaker 5: game earlier in your career and you've hated the team
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  Speaker 5: ever since. It's all nonsense, right, Like we call games
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  Speaker 5: that we hope are competitive, we want them to be dramatic.
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  Speaker 5: We want them to be a one possession game in
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  Speaker 5: the fourth.
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  Speaker 6: Quarter and have a little drama.
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  Speaker 5: Now, the Packers Panthers game last week was that it
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  Speaker 5: was a game winning walk off field goal, so there
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  Speaker 5: was drama. It was just it's just bad ball, right,
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  Speaker 5: There's not a lot of points. Nobody can score touchdowns.
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  Speaker 5: It's a rock fight, it's one hundred handoffs. It's just
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  Speaker 5: it's not entertaining football. But the saving grace is the end.
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  Speaker 5: The ending can sometimes save a game that wasn't overly
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: cooperative throughout. And I think that's as a broadcaster, that's
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: all we care about. We don't care who wins who loses.
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: We don't have narratives, we don't out we don't, you know,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: determine the outcome of the game. People think we're calling
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: for penalties or not, like we call it as we
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: see it. I could care, I couldn't care less who wins,
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: but we do want drama. We do want close games.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: We want the game to come down to the end
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: and be situational and managing the clock and managing timeouts,
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: and that the strategy that comes out of drama, at
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: least to me personally, is like, those are the games
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: I live for. We've been very lucky this year. We've
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: had a million great endings, had one yesterday in Chicago
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: coming back and the forth to beat the Giants, So
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: that that's what we pull for. But those real clunky games,
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: especially the blowouts, it's a challenge, right You kind of
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: the blowouts turn into a daytime talk radio show and
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: you just start covering random topics throughout the league. The
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: game really is just going on in the background. In
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: the second half when it's a thirty point blowout.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: We're talking about bad football. What the hell happened at
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the Panthers bro dropping against the Saints?
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that that was bad. I mean, listen to.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Kind of one where you're like sitting there like, oh,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: you know, could the could the Panthers be a fun
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: story in the division?
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: I know, I I man, I had a bad feeling
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: all week, you know. I mean, you guys have been
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: on these teams right, Like, let's be honest here, we've
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: all been in locker rooms that all of a sudden
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: you get a taste of your first winning as that group, right,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: guys have had success in random places. But maybe that
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: group of guys has not experienced a ton of success.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: No matter how you fight it, there is an element
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: in the NFL to learn how to have a little success,
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: whether that's individually, whether that's collectively as a locker room.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, the Panthers look and there
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: one game over five hundred, they just beat you know,
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: they just beat the Packers, who people thought was an
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: NFC contender on the road in Lambeau, And you start
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: feeling pretty good about yourself and you start thinking that
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: teams are beneath you. And obviously the Saints are coming
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: into Carolina as a one win team at the time,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: and on their rookie quarterback they bench Rattler and that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: So it's amazing how quickly you.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: Can forget your past, and you can forget just the
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: reality and just say, you know what, let's just.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: Stay locked in on what we're doing. One week. We
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: have not arrived.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: We are not that good, right, Like all those things
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: that you had to constantly remind yourself as a player.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: The teams that can sustain winning over long periods of time,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: there is an art to learning how to deal with
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: success and learning how to deal with expectations. When you're
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: the underdog and you're just a fun story and if
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: you show up and upset the better team, great, but
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: no one expects anything from you. That's actually an easy
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: way to play. And I think for a lot of
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: these teams that are just now starting to experience success,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: it takes a little time for them to get accustomed
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: to it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and takes some success right now. The Chicago Bears,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: they went like, there was the last seven. Yeah, there's
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: six and three right now.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just wild too. I wonder how that game.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, they were up Jackson Dark he runs like
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: a QB power to the left side, right, gets a
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: little concussion, gets a little conkyed, and they're up by
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: ten at that point. Am I correcting? Is that right?
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: It was seventeen to seven, So seventeen seven they're driving.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: They're either on the fringe of the red zone or
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: in the red zone. They were give or take twenty
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: plus side. I can't remember exactly the.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: Yard line he ran.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: He had run the ball really well, he had already
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: run for two touchdowns prior, and he ran a play,
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: got into the open field and CJ. Gardner Johnson put
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: a hit, but he didn't hit him in the head.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: He hit him dead on the left arm, which is decided.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: He was carrying the ball and the ball popped up.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: He grabbed it, and then he got driven and he
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: like face planted into the turf and the ball popped out.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: So instead of them going.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: In at minimum to make it twenty to seven or
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: potentially twenty four to seven, they get nothing, and then
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: they the next oh and then the next drive they
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: get the ball back, and so Chicago goes down kicks
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: a field goal to make it seventeen to ten. Now
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, Russ takes over. He takes them
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: the length of the field. They get down to fourth
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: and goal, the one yard line to make it up
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: seventeen ten. They're trying to make it twenty four ten,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: and they kick a field goal fourth and goal. The
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Bears have too many men on the field, so we're
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: expecting them to accept the penalty, go half the distance
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: to the goal and get fourth and half a yard
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: and try to score a touchdown. They elected to decline
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: the penalty. They take the three points and that made
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: it twenty to ten and they didn't score another point.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Caleb Williams took him on back to back touchdown drives
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter and the game was over.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Yo, I have no idea what to make of Caleb Williams. Dude,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I'll just at some point he's a damn good football player,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: but also he just has these crazy like lapses in
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: judgment sometimes, and yeah, he just holds the ball for
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You could give me more of insight
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: on that. I'm just I don't know what to buy.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Well, if I was a left tackle, I would agree
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: with you, because I think cast protecting from him is stressful.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: I don't think you now. I say that, and then
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: I look at yesterday. If I'm the offensive line in Chicago,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I'm buying him a stake dinner right now. Because the
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Giants pressured him at one of the highest rates of
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: the entire season that the Bears had faced.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: They could not get him on the ground.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: It was almost like a you know, like you see
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: those videos, are those like really talented high school kids
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: where it looks like they're playing the wrong sport and
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: they just no one can tackle.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: Then that's really what it looked like.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, Thibodeau had him ten times in the backfield,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: couldn't get him down. Brian Burns has them, can't get
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: him down. He's escaping, he's scrambling, he's making really accurate
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: throws downfield. He got killed by drops yesterday. His team
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: had probably six drops easy.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: Yesterday.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Of all the tape that I had watched of him
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: and all studying him, yesterday was by far the most
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: impressive ball he's played.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: I think through his first year and a half in
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: the league.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: He was incredible escapability, not taking sacks, which obviously was
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: a huge issue last year. And then he was a
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: lot more accurate throwing the ball downfield. That had kind
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: of been his shortcomings coming into the game. His accuracy
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: completion percentage was down, but his guys let him down
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: a little bit with some drops. But he was He
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: was fantastic, and then obviously the two game, the back
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: to back touchdown drives to win the game.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Late.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: It's as good a ball as he's played, It's as
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: good a ball as you can play. At the quarterback position.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what day Bowl is not helping himself
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: out with these hot seat conversations.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I just think they I think if you're the ownership
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: with the Giants, you got to sit there and be like,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: you have a very unique quarterback personality wise, you have
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: a very unique running back who's hurt personality wise. They've
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: given they've given the Giants life. You have a pass
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: rushing unit that every single guy can get double digit
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: sacks that they really wanted to throughout the season, like
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: give him one more year. But the whole decision on
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: fourth and one, thin at the penalty and not taking
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: it like that to me is like you just you
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: gotta you gotta go for it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Bad fourth quarter losses, Yeah, we have the lead by ten,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you're up.
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: Do what they have the The Giants have had the
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: lead by ten points in four in the fourth quarter,
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: a ten pointly in the fourth quarter four times, lost
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: all four.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Games, right, and I'm saying, like the last two, like
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that's that right there, the last two Like with the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Bears and the Broncos, that decision on take hey, we'll
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: decline this another opportunity to try to score points and
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: go up twenty four to ten. Yeah, he doesn't help.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is he's not helping him So are
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you calling for his head? Right, No, I'm saying he's
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: not helping himself. He doesn't help himself.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: I agree because so much of the ball at times
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: looks really good, you know. And again, they're playing without
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Molikue neighbors, they're playing without Skataboo, Like they're depleted a
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: little bit.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: At the skill positions.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: I think defensively, they are grossly underperforming the amount of capital,
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: draft capital, free agent, you know, just in a cap,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: you know, allocation only the Steelers have spent more money,
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Like they've gotta get more out of the defense.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: And you know, you have ten point leads.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: I don't care if the offense takes a knee every
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: play for the rest of the game. Like, at some point, somebody,
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: one of these first rounders, one of these top ten picks,
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: one of these hundred million dollar man, somebody upfront needs
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: to just make a play and end the game with
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: a sack of strip, fumble something. They can't take the
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: ball away, they can't close games. And and then just
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: some of the decision making and now what was ironic
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: was he Davel was super aggressive, rightfully, so super aggressive
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: with fourth down the rest of the game. I think
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: he went for fourth down three or four times. Now
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: they only got one, but he was super aggressive the
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: entire game, not settling for field goals. The wind was
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: a little tricky, so that like forty plus yard field
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: goals was a little dicey for both sides.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: Fourth and goal on the half yard.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Line, Yeah, yeah, you got you gotta go after that,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that's I'm sure you're seeing in
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the broadcast being like, okay, they got to go forward here,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: and then you're we were found.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: We were adam it, and then the second we said it,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: the second they didn't go for it. It just felt
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: like that was the knockout punch. And again it was
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: it was Russ's first drive taken over. So Dart got
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: on the fumble, Dart hit his head and he kind
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: of got up slow, and then we kind of watched
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: him go to the side and no one really checked
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: him out. He kind of waved everyone off, and we
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: thought he was just disappointed that he fumbled, is why
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: he got up slow. He came back out, he took
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: two more plays and then he disappeared into the tent
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: and we never saw him again. And obviously Russ takes over.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: But on the first drive, Russ's drive took him down
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: to the one yard line. Russ Rush tried to take
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: it in on third down, he went back to pass,
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: kind of got caught up in the pocket, took off
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: ran Hard, got stopped at the one, and then they
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: kicked the field goal. So the first drive with Russell
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Wilson prop was by far their best drive and their
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: most likely scenario to score a touchdown. And then over
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: the next six plays following that field goal, they had
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: six plays for minus two yards.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: So it was just it was over.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you were you able to watch the Bills
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Dolphins game at all?
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: I wasn't it was going on the same time as ours.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Because I kind of I put it on and it
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: was already sixteen zero. It was like right before half.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: And then in the third quarter, Josh Allen takes them
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: all the way down the field throws a pick in
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the end zone. I don't know if this is before
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: or after they do like their version of the Toush push.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: He gets like six seven yards, The ball gets popped out,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and it just seemed like every single time the Bills
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: started to catch a little bit of momentum, the Miami Dolphins,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: wo to me, are as good as dead in the
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: NFL season, Like they just kept stopping them and coming
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: alive and putting Josh Allen, who is the running MVP,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and the situations where okay, go do MVP things and
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: he just didn't do it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was well and too like once the explosive
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: pop against the Bills defense, which we've talked about before,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: like the running game a chain. Yeah, like when those
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: explosive play plays happen and you're just Josh Allen on
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the sideline, You're just I mean you saw it a
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: couple of times. Yeah, his body language and him answered
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: at the podium after the game. It just seems like
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit of spark has been taken away from
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen a little bit. But yeah, I could not
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: believe the Dolphins beat their ass yesterday, beat.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Their ass, and think of the two weeks that you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: we talk about Carolina having a letdown, right, we talk
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: about you're not used to being in that position. You
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: just have a huge win on the road in Lambeau.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: But think of the last couple weeks of the Bills.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: They win by forty against the Panthers on the road.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Then they have a huge matchup against the Chiefs where
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: they really play well and they win against their biggest rival,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: like and all of a sudden, it's like, all right,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: the Bills are back. Any concern before the bye week,
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: We're not worried about those two losses. Like, they are back.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: And then you said it, the Dolphins were dead. Everybody
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: was shocked that they didn't make a coaching change after
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: that Thursday Night debacle a couple of weeks. What was
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: that last week and the week before. Yeah, so you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I give the Dolphins a lot of credit. That is
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: not easy, man. We've all been on those teams, most guys.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Maybe not everybody, but most guys have been on those
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: teams where it's just a tough season, it's a lost season,
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: and it really just comes down to finding out in
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: the locker room, like who truly is willing to compete
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: when you're not really in the running for anything and
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: you're really just playing for pride and you're playing for
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: all this stuff. People stand at the podium and talk
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: about but are you really willing to do it? That's
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: pretty impressive, Like to come out and beat one of
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: the top the printial, one of the top teams in
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: the league, a division rival. I give them a lot
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: of credit, man, because they were in the bullseye. People
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: were taking shots from all over the place calling for
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: people's jobs. And tell you what, the NFL is a
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: funny world, man. It can flip on a dime, especially
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: this year, because I'm not sure there.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: Is a clear cut top dog.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: I think we have a group of teams that we
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: think are the going to pull away. But it is
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: a very very even league right now. And obviously that's
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: by design.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah too, like going off of it, like when you're
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: out of it and being on those teams, it's like
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: when you're pretty much out of everything, and like the
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: GM gets fired and movement is happening in the organization.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Like also your schedule kind of changes as a player too,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: like you'll do more walk through. It's like coaches start
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: switching it up because it's like, hey, we're not fined
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: for nothing. Guys seem a little depleted. Let's take care
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: of him a little bit more so to show up
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and put an ass beating on the Bills like they did.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: It is like they're having fun in the locker room.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: The team is still fighting, which is you know, hats off,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Hats off to the staff, have hats off to the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: players for still like staying in the fight.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so confusing when we talk about the
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Panthers and how they are. They're a little bit above
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: five hundred. Maybe this group's number one before, so it's
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: like understandable they go and drop them for the Bills.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: It's like, you guys have since Josh Allen's been your quarterback,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you have had success. You've been competing for Super Bowls,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: going deep in the playoffs every single year and having
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: two back to back wins. Obviously, you have to get
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: up very get up big for your biggest rival like
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs last week. But there should be no drop off,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: like you no, because.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: You've had coaches been there forever.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Josh Allen, Like, I don't know, I
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: don't know what to make of that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, going over.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: So it makes this league so hard though, right because everything
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: we say about the teams that aren't used to winning
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: having to learn how to sustain the other side of
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: that coin is human nature of the reason certain organizations
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: don't have prolonged success, right with the Bills have done,
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: the Chiefs, the Patriots, some of these teams that have
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: had long sustained periods of success. That is an absolute
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: opposition to the way human nature works. It's the opposition
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: of the way the league is designed. So that's equally challenging, right,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: That is an equally hard thing to do to get
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: up knowing you are everyone's biggest game week after week.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Maybe the roster is a little depleted, maybe the injuries,
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: maybe you're not as good as you were in the
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: years past.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: But that when people see that Bill's.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Uniform and they see Josh Allen behind center, they just
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: assume it's the same Bills team we've seen over the
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: last couple of years, this close to, you know, get
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: into a Super Bowl. So expectations on either side of
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: that coin can be crippling.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: What do you make in of the AFC North Pittsburgh
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Steelers going out to the going out to LA getting
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: pretty handled by the Chargers and Ravens Now, Ravens are coming.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Ravens are coming, and Ravens are coming.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: I think the Ravens win it.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and I know it sounds silly, and
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: they were left for dead and there was problems, and
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: the defense was historically bad yet albeit injured, and obviously
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: Lamar's out and how long is he gonna be out
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: with the hamstring? And it seemed like the sky is
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: falling and you look at the and I think everyone
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: who looked at the division said okay, right. You know,
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: at the moment, the Steelers were on top. And I
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: think at times the Steelers had looked really good. And
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: I think at times Aaron Rodgers has looked like Aaron Rodgers.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: And the defense makes I think the defense makes critical
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: plays more than they are just like an overall good unit.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I think they've spent a gazillion dollars on the defense.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: I think on a play by play basis, I don't
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: think they're particularly great. I think they make incredible splash plays,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: right like it's the fourth quarter, you haven't called TJ.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Watts name yet, and then it's stripped sack fumble and
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: it's like the game is over. So like that's where
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: they've kind of rested their head and that's where they've
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: made their money. When they don't get those splash negatives.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I think they're just okay. Last night kind of I'm
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: with you. They got it, you know, they got taken
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: to them by by the Chargers. I still think they're solid.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: I still think, like most years, the Tomlin led team
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: is going to be a playoff caliber group. They're going
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: to find themselves in it somehow, some way. But if
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: I'm a bet man today, I think a healthy Lamar
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: and a Baltimore team that's in a tough, bad division,
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: I think they're the favorite to win it in my
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: in my mind at least.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're minus two seventy on Fandel. They're only one
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: game back.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Right now, So what does that mean?
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Minus two seventy So if you bet, you have to
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: bet two hundred and seventy dollars to win one hundred dollars,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: and so they're they're.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: So that means there so they have the that would
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: be the worst odds.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're They're the Ravens. Even though they're not leading
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the division right now, the sportsbooks saying they're still a
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: heavy favorite to win the division. So it speaks more
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: about Pittsburgh not being They're not gonna be able to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: hang on. They're gonna be too inconsistent, right.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: And Aaron didn't obviously didn't play well, But I don't
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: understand why your running back Jalen Warren has been playing
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: so well and it's getting been that get out of
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: jail free cart in a lot of ways. For your
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: running game. Last night, you start running Johnson more, who
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: you know hasn't really been seen since he had that
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: muffed kickoff return early in the season. It's like, why
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: why aren't you staying with this guy unless there's an
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: injury we don't know about. Yeah, because he's like saved
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: them a lot of ways, like twelve personnel, big guys
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: we talk about, like the way they run the ball,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: like Warren, it does a great job of running the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: outside zone and then the perimeter run game as well.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: And then as Johnson, he's kind of proven did a
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: great job at Iowa. It's kind of proven, like he's
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: he's got to learn a little bit more before we
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: can see if he's really gonna be successful. Like just
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: keep doing the same thing. When your defense has a
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: great game last week and I have to travel across
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: the country to the West Coast against a really good
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: defense of Jesse Mentor's Chargers, you just I don't understand
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that unless there's an injury we just don't know about. Yeah,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it's frustrating.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Just need Yeah I had him plus three. You had Pittsburgh.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Mine needed it. Yeah, Pittsburgh was underdogs.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah I had him as well. That's that's heartbreaking, dude.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: What do you What can you make of JJ McCarthy
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: for me? Like, there's times he seems like, oh, this
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: kid really has juice, Like he's got a couple of
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: third downs, he's putting the ball in a perfect spot
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: only where the wide receiver can catch. And then other
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: times he's scrambling. It's third and six and he's got
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: like twenty yards of open field in front of him,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: and he decides, I'm just gonna throw it into double coverage.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take this play action pass and throw
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: a deep shot into double coverage as well. Like, I
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: know you're not a coach, and I hate putting you
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: on the spot, but like, what do we got going there?
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: I think he's a young quarterback who hasn't played a
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: lot of ball, right, I mean you think he lost
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: his entire rookie year last year to injury, and then
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: you know, obviously Sam Darnold steps in and has an
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: amazing season and carries it over. He missed a serious
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: amount of time this year with the high ankle. You know,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: we covered it a couple of those Vikings games where
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: he was out and limited, and they turned it over
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: to Carson Wentz. So I think the reality for young
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks in this league is they need to practice, They
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: need game reps, they need practice reps. And when you
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: think since he's come into the league, since he got drafted,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: the amount of time forget the games, the amount of
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: practice reps lost due to injury, it's real. And I
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: think we've seen quarterbacks that play for Kevin O'Connell in
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: that system. Going back, we can rattle off five six
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: guys off the top of our head. Even the year
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: that Kirk Cousins got knocked out, Kirk Cousins was playing
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: so good he tears his achilles, and then he rolls
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: in a bunch of guys that we didn't even know
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: still were in the league, and.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: They just keep winning and winning and playing good ball.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: And then obviously what he did last year with Sam
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: and then even at times before he got banged up,
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: Carson Wentz played well and then we found out that
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: he was really dealing with something serious that led to
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: the decline, So that offense is built for good quarterback play.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: I still think JJ McCarthy's very talented. I think he
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: looked like a young, talented quarterback. I think sometimes he
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: looks in rhythm. I think he's competitive. I think he's
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: got a little shit to him, and then I think
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: at times his head pops off, and I think that's
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: very common, especially for that style of quarterback. And I
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: don't think, you know, I think the Drake Mays of
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: the world and guys that come in and are a
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: little bit more polished and a little bit more refined
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: and play within the system, and they're not so you know,
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: improv run around, scramble. Those guys have a little bit
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: of a higher floor, just in the sense that you're
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: not going to get the ebbs and flows and the
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: chaos right. But sometimes the spectacular that you get from
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy and Caleb Williams when they're spinning in circles
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: and running around, there's a magic to that. There's a fun,
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: entertaining aspect. The question is is it's sustainable. And I
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: think what we know and have seen throughout the league.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Is if you can sprinkle those plays in, great, they're
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: great like get out of Jail free cards. You can't
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: rely on that style play in play out. You have
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: to learn how to play within the confines, understand the agressions,
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: understand what you're seeing, and play in rhythm. And I
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: think that's the element right now. That's still a little
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: bit of a learning curve with Kevin O'Connell up there.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: For McCarthy, Yeah, the learning curve I feel like is
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the key phrase there, because again it's you got this
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: young quarterback who just doesn't have the scarring that these
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: other VET quarterbacks have that Kevin O'Connell's been able to
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: work with, Like this is kind of the first pick
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: that he's getting to work with and he hasn't had
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of reps in the film room, on
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the practice field. Just having those QB conversations, I feel
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: like there is that high level of IQ that you're
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: going to have when sitting in a room with Kevin
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: O'Connell breaking down offense. So we're just not going to
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: be able to grade. People are going to grad JJ McCarthy,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: but you're not going to be able to actual to
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: actually get a feel for him, probably until the middle
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: of next year, first part of next year, within those
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: first six games. Yeah yeah, it's to me, it's like, yeah,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: it's a rookie quarterback. He's out there. This is his
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: fourth was it his fourth game? I think fourth fifth game?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Right around there, one of those two right right, yeah,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: right now, I'm with you. I just you see so
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: many flashes that's like, oh, this cake can be special,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: and then he just does things You're like, what are
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: we doing here?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Just think he was talking about head spinning, the
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: chaos that ensues in certain moments to where you think
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you're in control, but not in a way that you
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: want to have. As like a Poys quarterback who's seen
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and played a lot of football, right right, so when
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: that happens, head goes down, he's going to be trying
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: to make plays and everything else. Again, very much a
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: young quarterback who there's just not enough, they're not enough
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: of a sample sizer body of work to great him hard.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: People will because again, you're in professional football, that's.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: The j you're a top eleven pick.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fair. Do we have any more for Greg
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: before we let him know about this bet, the Boys
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: parlay that's still aliveing well tonight.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest key right there before we
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: let him go.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg, you're the man. Thank you for coming on.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Have you kept up with this bet? The boys parlay,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Ricky doubdle hit anytime touchdown, Jamior Gibbs hit anytime touchdown.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Come on, doll hit anytime touchdown. We have one left
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: to night.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: One more Greg, one more Lake.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: And it's it's Jalen Hurts anytime touchdown. The Lunch team
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: coming into.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Green listen, I think tush push is going to be
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: at the center of attention today. Remember Green Bay amongst
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: other teams, Green Bay was like front and center trying
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: to eliminate the play. I mean, if you're Siriani, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: think I'm trying to do it as many times in
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: lambeau Field as the opportunities present themselves, so they get
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: inside the three or four yard line. I think we
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: if it's first and goal inside the five, I think
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: we're seeing Tush push one.
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: Tush push two, Tush push three, Tush.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Push four and saying I got four downs to toush
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: push into the end zone. So of all the guys
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: you just mentioned I I'm probably I don't want to
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: jinx it, but like I'm feeling best about that.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni has a huge opportunity for the ultimate troll,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and that's to start the first play of the game
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: in a touch push first, past them first and ten
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: you're on the twenty five.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Gotta respect that under center and.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Just hey, you guys wanted this because it'll go for
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: four or five on the first place.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: I'm on record, especially if they like shifted to it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: You know, just don't like walk out of the huddle
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: and just run now like that you're gonna run it
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: like disguise it to some capacity. But I'm on record,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I haven't maybe not quite as much this year, but
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: didn't it feel like with Kelsey two seasons ago it
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: was either two or three seasons ago. Now I can't
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: keep track of it all, but it felt like they
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: were getting three yards every time they ran a tush push.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: Like it wasn't like get a foot and a half,
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: they were getting like three otes. I thought for a
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: while there when they had Kelsey and they were really
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: rolling a couple years ago with the toush push, and
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: it was new and teams weren't necessarily accustomed to it
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: at that point. I thought, at the end of the game,
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: like four minute offense, I thought they could have gotten
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: first and ten, gotten under center and run four consecutive
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: Toush pushes at the end of a game to get
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: a first and take a knee like I thought. I
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: think they could. I think back then. I don't know
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: if they can do it anymore, but I thought a
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: couple of years ago, ten yards and four Toush pushes
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: I thought was totally reasonable.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to see that level of petty
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: from Sirianni.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Would love to see it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure if they're there right now, but yeah,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: you gotta win. There would still be great television, wouldn't it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: I'm a huge Toush push I'm a huge Toush Push fan.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: I think it's a I think it's brilliant.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: You think it's good for football.
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: I think it's great for the strategy of the game.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, is it the Philadelphia Eagles responsibility to carry
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: what's good for the NFL on their backs? I don't
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: think it's their responsibility, Like the optics that I don't
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: think any of that is any of their issue. I
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: think it is a play that is highly effective. I
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: think it's a play that nobody else seems to be
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: able to get right.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: And it is anire.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: It is baked into every single decision that they make offensively,
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: from what they call on third and four to what
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: they do on first and ten, to what they do
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: on the plus side of the field, to what they
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: do in the goal line.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: I think there is.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: A really deep, highly thought through strategy that the tush
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: push being in their back pocket for a yard and
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: a half when you snap the ball at if you
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: told the league, I have to play first and ten,
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: but you get to play first and eight, it's a
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: huge advantage.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I love it until I hate it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: I listen, would I want to be the guard?
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: What I want?
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Would I want my neck broken and dumped on top
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: of I don't know what? I want to be the
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: middle linebacker? Get I'm not saying I want to defend it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: But I think if I'm the coach, it's highly productive
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: and it's a huge part of what they do.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not like A I don't love it like
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I think it's amazing, but I hate the idea of
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: banning the toush push because it's so effective. Like it's like,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: that's to me, that's such a ridiculous argument. And it's like,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: if you think something's not effective, learn to do it yourself,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: or just keep doing it until eventually some DC comes
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: along that understands how to beat it, and then it's beaten.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: But you can't just get rid of a play because
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: it's good. Yeah, that's that's a crazy argument.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: That I love until I hate it comes in when
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the officiating gets a little gray, because I think it's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: a hard play to officiate, especially it's like a couple
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago when we saw what was the Burns
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: kind of ripped the ball out, they called it dead.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: It's like, dude, that is he stripped.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Him right, and he's laying on top of five different bodies.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: So the controversy for me is more when it's like, uh,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: it could be officiated poorly, like when fall starts are
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: kind of happening, like you know, all that stuff.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: But I'm with I guess, I guess the simplest way
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: to put it is if it was such an easy play,
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: if it's if it's the ultimate Madden glitch, how come
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: they're the only team in the league that does it
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: consistently well.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Right, I know, because when teams try it and they're
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: bad at it, it's.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: Like they've never practiced it.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what are you guys scatting? Like, what's the
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: philadelph Eagles doing it?
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: At least that there's a coaching element, there's a person element.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of factors that go into whether or
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: not that play is realistic for your team or not.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: And you know, we can go around a lot of
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: teams over the last couple of years and say that
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: they were disproportionately better at something than the rest of
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: the league. And if the notion was let's get rid
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: of everyone else's advantages, people would laugh at you.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this would be a fun I don't.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Want Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald is not allowed to be
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: a three technique and spike into the A gap and
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: make the guard miss because he's so no one else
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: can do it as good as him, and he tackles,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: and he tackles you for a loss every time.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: It's not fair. Get rid of it.
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: It's not fair.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: We don't get an Aaron Donald. How come you guys
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: get Aaron Donald.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have Aaron Donald, that's not fair that
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: you could play a three technique in that capacity. I
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: can't do it, so we should ban it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't understand why the Cowboys, the Commanders, or
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the Giants haven't tried to contract Jason Kelsey and be like, hey,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: teach us, Like, just throw an absolute bag at him,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: two million bucks, Jason, come in for a week.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: I don't think Kelsey would do it. I think Kelsey's
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: a loyal Philly guy. I think he's a loyal Philly
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: guy who's making a lot of money. I don't I
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: think he is. Like, I think he would go to
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: his deathbed before he let up any of those in
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: house secrets of Jeff Stoutlin and those guys holds the keys.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he would need some Saudi money.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, now that's a different album.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Eight figures, nine figures.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: Big for one week of work. Big Domb's not letting
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: that happen.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Big Big Dom would set that out.
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: Nopele figure that out quick.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Greg.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: You're the man, bro, Thank you for man.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you, man. Have a go. One'll talk to you soon.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Plus Titans, they hold the number one pick in the
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: draft right now, do you see him holding onto that
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: prestigees honor or do you see them letting that slip
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: away from their from their fingertips.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Are recording just asking me a question.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I think we're doing both.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: I would say, I mean prestige.
• 45:55
  Speaker 8: Sure. Last year we sell back toward to into the
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: first pick. It was who was the Jets that there
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: was one team that they won on Week eighteen. I
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: think it was the Jets. Well, we were going to
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: have the second pace at the Brown No, I think
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: it was the Jets. Yeah, they backdoord in the first pick.
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: They want a crazy game. We got the first pick,
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: so at least now we know three weeks ahead. Who knows,
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: we still play the Saints, Jets, could you know, squeak
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: out a couple more losses?
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: Who knows?
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Maybe we do some dumb shit?
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Who dumb shit?
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: And what at that point in the year where it's
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: like football doesn't mean as much as it used to.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: See Jack Jackson's defeated man in the month of November.
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: Right now, Yeah, I mean, hopefully some things shake out.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: But what would shake out? Because you're saying, hey, we
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: might do some dumb shit, I'm thinking, do you want
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: the Titans to lose the rest of their games. For
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the one pick, I don't know.
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: All I can think about is right now in Nashville,
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: it's thirty four degrees. All the home games following right
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: now November tenth will most likely be very frigid, and
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: I'm not looking forward to being in Nissan Stadium in
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: that weather.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: You should be looking forward to who's who in the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: zoo When it comes to this fan base, it is
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: the this is the stretch where you're in your stripes
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: right here. You want to know who's in the foxhol
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: with the Tennessee Titans, right And.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: We've learned about the foxhole too, like ten people. That's good, dude,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: all you need, all you need is ten.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Really eleven football.
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: But I'm just yeah, I'm at that point where it's
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: just it's difficult.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: You're abysmal year last year. It's tough for the Titans.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: That's like, hey, we're gonna get back on track. We'll
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: figure it out. Callahan new year. Two years in a
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: row of it going like this, the fan base is gonna.
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: I think the big positive look at is how much
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: salary cap that we have and just the cap space,
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: like that's that's the positive we haven't.
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: Had that in a long time.
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so who knows, but yeah, that is. I mean,
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: by the time it's you know, midway through the spring,
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: my allegiance is just fully back on. We're winning the
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: super Bowl. So I do hope that we do something
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: special with the Cavs face, and I hope they hire
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: the right guy. Until we've hired the right guy, I
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: can't really make any decision, and I just kind of
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: linger in this horrible Titans Tennessee football limbo.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: But yeah, you know we're gonna be in Nissan. Tighten up, man, fun.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Show up. We can hit some tier talk. Let's hit
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: some tier talk. We have a shout out here, mister
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: James at the mister James eight on X. Anyone going
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: to talk about how clutch Caleb Williams is when the
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: game is on the line. Hashtag tier talk. I think
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: we did, Yeah, we had. We had a great, fun
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: little breakdown with old Greg there. I'll tell you what,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I am the guy looking in the mirror being like,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: how long am I going to continue to kind of
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: doubt the Chicago Bears, And uh so I pull up
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: their schedule and I hate them do this, but it's
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: like all right, Let's try to find some wins. Let's
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: try to figure out who the Bears have been. Dallas,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: the Raiders. Oh these is yeah, this is who they beat.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Dallas split them wide open? That defense? Who has to
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: split them wide open? They beat the Raiders by one,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Commanders by one. They beat the Saints, They they beat
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: the Bengals, they beat the Giants.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: So I just.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Throwing that out there, because they are six and three.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: You gotta give I. I do enjoy watching coach Johnson's
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: post game speeches in the locker room. Yeah, he's like, hey,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: we're here every week, but we ain't apologizing for how
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: we win. Gives out game balls. I do love his energy.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I love how the locker rooms having a lot of fun.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I think the boys are rallying around the idea that
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: they are playing meaningful games in November, hopefully December.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: And that is what you pulled up. The wins that
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: they've had as a team, You've ignored that and you
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: just look at the record and be like, we can
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: play with anybody, We can play with any We can
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: play with anyone right now.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Big opportunity. Who who they got next week? They got
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the Vikings?
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Give me the next three.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, Vikings Division rivalry that'll be in Minnesota.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Can probably see them winning that.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Then they have they host the Steelers.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, you can see them winning that.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Then they go to Philly. But if you go, if
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: you go two and one, you're again you're sitting there
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: at eight and four, you're sitting there eight and four,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: eight and four ball club playing some meaningful games in December,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: which would be the Packers at Green Bay host the Browns, Okay,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: then they host the Packers again, then they go out
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: to San Francisco and play the Niners, and then they
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: host the Lions.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Eight, nine and eight ball club wild Card. But is
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: it I don't know if it is in the NFC.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: NFC will be tough, I was gonna say, especially yeah,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: NFC West, the way that they're playing right now, they
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: could be looking again three in there.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yet the Packers are gonna make it, the Lions
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: are gonna make it, the Eagles are gonna make it.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: But we should be able to let Chicago fans have
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: as much fun as possible.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Have fun because you said in the beginning of the
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: year you deserve this. We need new Halloween costumes next year.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Can't just be Mike Dicka. It can't just be Mike Dicka.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Get some fingernails painted. Let's let your kids go crazy
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: out there. Huh So. Yeah, Caleb Williams and is impressive
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: though how elusive he is and I didn't see like
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't see the entire game. I saw bits and pieces,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: but his ability to escape the pocket ran out to
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: the left a couple times, one for a touchdown when
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: he got down to the one yard line.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Thrown across the body, he is like, he is extremely talented.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Like if you get if Ben Johnson could harness that
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: energy when Dan Orlofty's talking about the habits and everything
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: like that, if they can get that done.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Boys, it seems like they're trending that way ten and seven?
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Why not? Why not the Chicago Why not you?
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: There's gotta be an upsetting there somewhere. It'd be good
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: for football. It would be for football.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Why not the Bears? Here's another tier talk from Adam
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Sullivan to hashtag tear talk. Are the days of a
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: true pocket passer in the NFL? Gone? A set your feet,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: get completions or take the sack? QB seems extinct. Not
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: everyone can be my homes, But it seems like you
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: have to have some type of mobility anymore to be
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: consistently productive in today's NFL.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Look at Matthew Stafford, like he's he's got a little
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: mobility to him. Actually a couple times he got himself
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: around a little bit. But I mean he's a true
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: he's a true pocket passer. Jared Goff, true pocket passer.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Like these are guys that are dicing up the league
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: right now, playing really really good ball. Is it dead? No?
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Are we in a you know, we gotta worry about
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: this animal because it's becoming extinct. We got to think
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: them to the zoo. Hopefully they can procreate with something else.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the world we're living in.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: You'll have somebody getting at two of them. You'll have
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: the traditional list I think always in forever, it's at
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: most positions. Yeah, but there are these mutants that are
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: now coming into the league across the board. Right we
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: were having the breakdown last week. We were talking about
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: tight ends, this semi positions with backers and tight ends.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: You see it a lot with receivers, like you have
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: to come in being able to block crazy man.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: They were like the first iteration of the alien. Yeah,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: that was the first alien to step foot on the
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: grid iron.
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: I feel like the like Christian ponders of the world
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: are are over though, Like how there used to be
• 53:22
  Speaker 9: that middle of the pack QB in the NFL that
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: was just pocket passers. I feel like they're going to
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: be extinct.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where like.
• 53:28
  Speaker 9: Everybody every on the right, like Max, Max Jones, those
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: are like great players. But mac Jones is like we
• 53:36
  Speaker 9: know ceiling.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Do we do? We know mac Jones the ceiling or
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: we just now seeing I would say mac Jones or
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: we just seen the second floor would be.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Would be that leveled up middle of the pack, right exactly.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: But you gotta be the best of the best. You're
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: just gonna sit back there in that pocket.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, Sammy d that's like he's athletic, but he's not.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: He does he's got some urgency, he's.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Got some Yeah.
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: I would say he's like athletic, as athletic as bow Knicks.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but no, Sam Donald doesn't have quarterback
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: design runs in the play, but for him, bow Knicks does.
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: But he could.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Dog. I don't think. I don't think Sam Donald is
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: getting other than your hey QB paint once in a while.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I would say if Sam Donald arm shoulders everything else,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: if he had the genetic of bow Knicks, he would
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: not be as successful as bow Knicks were. With the
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: athletic ability, I'll say if you I'm saying Sammy D,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: He's got a much better arm, much better accuracy, much
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: better arm strength if you gave him bow Knicks's makeup
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: as far as arm strength and accuracy. Like, but like,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have the athletic ability. I'm just saying he
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the athletic They're not.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're in the same category. Knicks is like,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: you're he's your first tier. I'm starting a creative player.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: He's gonna have a level of ac athleticism. Yeah, but
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: he's not. I mean he's not Lamar Jackson's Notting Homes
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I'm saying Sam Darnold is not as athletic as bow Nicks.
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but who would you rather have? D?
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Like Ty Simpson is going to be coming out that urgency,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: high ball a pie, yeah, mobility.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: And it's going to be a Sammy D compared to
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: by Simpson is like Ty Simpson is the perfect example
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: of like the new pocket passing quarterback Yeah, where it's like, yeah,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: he's got he can move his legs a little bit,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: but like there's no quarterback design runs, being like, we
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: got to get.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: That's a pocket pass Baker.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: Where would you where would you categorize Baker gamer?
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's an elusive he's elusive.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Baker would be like, yeah, pocket quarterbacks like that,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: you need to have that ability. Baker's got that.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Baker doesn't have design runs. He's out, he's not a
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: dual threat.
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: Like, so, is that what you're saying is that you
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: need to be you need to have design runs in
• 55:55
  Speaker 7: order to be athletic.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I think that's where I'm leaning as we're kind of
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: having like a think tank right now on the bus. Yeah,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: there needs to be two to three quarterback design runs.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: That's like, oh, the coaching staff believes you can run
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: like that. Caleb Williams can run like that. Lamar Jackson. Obviously,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Mahomes is a unique one. We're not doing QB design
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: runs with Mahomes. But he's shown me enough. He's shown
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: me enough elusivity to get around a little bit. I
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: like that. Jalen Hurts quarterback design runs, Josh Allen quarterback
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: design runs. Aaron Rodgers pocket passer, used to be able
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: to he Drank Malle quarterback design runs. He's got a couple.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Drake May's kind of got it all he can. He
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: can't fuck you, Drake mayhold the ball up here. You
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: see did you see the one yesterday? He actually had
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: the ball up here. The guy was trying to get it.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: He had the ball like this, pusted you down and
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: then threw the ball. So, yeah, Drake May's got it.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: He's got the technique in.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Fundamentals's got some cute feet. I wouldn't say he's got
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: design runs, but he's got cute enough feet to make
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit of magic.
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: But he's more of you're saying.
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: You're saying Jordan Love sweet.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: He's got the sweetest, sweet, sweet sweet feet.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: What about Jordan Love?
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Completely different player when he's under pressure as opposed to
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: clean pocket. Is he elusive? I don't know you can
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: pass your You're bringing up the my man's tweet like, yeah,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Cam Woarre's got running ability to him. Not a quarterback
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: design run guy though, not a quarterback, but for his
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: life he can make some magic with Yeah. He gets
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: out a little bit like he's more elusive than he's like, Okay,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: you got your sam Donold's, then your Drake May is
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: probably a level above that on the elusivity chart. And
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: then it goes up and up and out. Baker's above,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I would say above Cam.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: We might need a graphic for this.
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: Donald.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: We're talking a lot of essentially the meet.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: There's thirty two two tears. It's kind of where my
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: brain is going right now.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: The median now of quarterback play is not as much
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: pocket passer. It is now more having.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Legs out of the starting quarterbacks. Who is the perfect
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: balance in this in this discussion?
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: That's a great, great question.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Josh Allen, Drake May, Patrick Mahomes, he
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: would it would be Jalen hurts Man or doesn't turn
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: it over. He's a good quarterback. But we're talking about
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: who's the best in this conversation.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine Justin Herbert of Eagles, Justin Herbert quarterback, buddy,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: perfect quarterback. I love this question. I mean Lamar Jackson's leg,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Lamar's legs.
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: Baker's ship.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Baker's Baker's moxy.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, uh dude, arm strength I know we kind of
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: want to lean Josh Allen, but what about Kayleb Williams,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Rock buddy, he can the freaking ball.
• 59:03
  Speaker 10: I was watching the forty nine Ers game and Caleb
• 59:05
  Speaker 10: Williams like the difference between his throw and Mac Jones.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: No, I love Mac.
• 59:09
  Speaker 10: Jones, but Caleb can can rip it every time he throws.
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: Stafford. Stafford can rip it.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Stafford.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you want Stafford's brain, you can. We're putting Stafford's
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: We're putting Stafford's accuracy.
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: Stafford's putting it wherever he wants. He doesn't have to look,
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: and he's just yeah.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Rodgers, arm bro I mean, obviously he's old,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: he's old.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Starters, but we're forgetting Joe Burrow, Like, do not want
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: his achilles?
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeaht up waste, not.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Want his legs?
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrows Yeah yeah, yeah, face.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Hair, Patrick Mahomes playmaking ability? Is that? Is that a category?
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Can we put that in there?
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow? Joe Burrow's serial killer brain.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Drake May's deep ball or got some good quarterbacks out there?
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: We got some good quarterbacks out there.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: No tier talk from Chris Fratelli hashtag tear talk. This
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: is for Taylor as former players, how can you explain
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: the Baker, Danny Dimes, Donald mac jones career resurgence coaching.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: It's gotta be it's yeah, right, it's yeah. Dudes being
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: locked in, dudes being high draft picks, getting knocked off
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: their pedestal, finding a new place, new energy, new way
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: to go about their study, habits, their processes like.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: And not buying into the doubt that kind of creeps
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: in your mind when you are having down moments.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: It shows that these guys that get drafted obviously very
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: high to the worst teams just truly get put in
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: an awful situation, brutal.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Situation, and it takes like a true talent to overcome
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: those brutal situations.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, you're gonna tell me, I said, you're truly fucked.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: I mean, you're gonna look at me and tell me
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: I'm wrong.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: I think, like question if you're a generational guy doesn't matter.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Joe Burrow, Joey b I'm so.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Glad you brought him back in the conversation because I
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: truly forgot about Joe Burrow.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: Joey Be is the only one to go into a
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: ship franchise and turn it completely around in the last
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: five ten years.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: That's kind of fair.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: It's fair. It's fair face value. It's fair at face value.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: But like Drake May, we'd obviously have to bring up
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: something like it's like, so you're to Manny came in.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: They were brutal, and I said, five to ten years, okay, that.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Was over twenty that was not nice. If you took
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and you put them on the Jets turns
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: it around.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: I feel, I mean, they didn't draft, they didn't draft,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: they didn't draft Jamar Chase. Like Arry, I think the.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 10: Jets would be Jets would be kind of nice with Burrow,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 10: with that defense, they had some some Quinn and Williams.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Williams gone, and then like if.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: He was on the Jets, the Jets drafted Zach Wilson.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: He's third on the death chart.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: How sick are you if you're like the Jets, you're
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals Josh Rosen a few years ago.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: I mean Kyler Murray like he like he got he
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: drafted number one overall and like, I mean, they're still
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: kind of ship.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 10: Kyler Murray is a good one. Not to steal this
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 10: tier talk but do you think Kyler Murray will have
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 10: a resurgence on a new team next year he's not
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 10: with the Cardinals. Do you think there's a chance that
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 10: Kyler can become that type of quarterback that needs the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 10: chance he goes to Minnesota.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gotta go. He's gotta everyone. There is to
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: be a line at the door the Rams. Yeah, there
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: needs to be like a seminar and like the Cape
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: the Kevin O'Connell just puts on once a year. It's
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: all like backup quarterbacks. That's how quarterbacks play gets better. Wait, Jets,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: oh have success. He's got to go to Minnesota first,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: and then it does matter where he goes.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Didn't know golf won a Super Bowl with the Rams. Yeah,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: he lost, lost to Bowl, went to Super Bowl. He
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: like he was one in that because I feel like
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: turn it around.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: He turned it around, like he was there. They were
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: kind of bad for a couple of years and then
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: they like once McVeigh got hired, they went and.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just saying, Detroit, you never turned around.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: They still win when sixteen they still sucked. Yeah, that
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: is a great argument for Joe Burrow and how good
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: he is with Stafford at Detroit.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, because you can't necessarily say it about Mahomes
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: because they were good with Alex Smith before him. You
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: can kind of say it about Josh Allen like they they.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh, Josh Allen's a good one. Yeah, I mean win.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: So your statement kind of just got thrown in the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: trash two people, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow. Uh,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: we just said Stafford and Jared Goff.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think the argument bill playoff team when
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: they draft because Jared Goff they weren't good that McVeigh
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: got there, which is great coaching. So that's that's kind
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: of like the changeing go with there. Jeff's great quarterback.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Would you put Herbert in there?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: I feel like fringe g Herbert, fringe guy. Hebert is
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: supposed to start his first Gamey Taylor got poked in
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: the lung and that's how he started.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. They do it on purpose, so they're always
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: pretty salty. Chargers were always pretty salty.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't like an abysmal franchise, Like what are like,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: what are the worst franchises? The Browns, the Jets. Well,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: I see the Giants kind of giants have had success
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: in this century though, No.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Ye, But before that they had.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Watch, they had Shaun Watson, they had a great defense.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: They were competing in the A C South every year Jags,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, je Jade Daniels, Trevor.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Lawrence to Washington is trash this year, man. But even
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: when he's played there.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: They still I feel like w it has the product
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: truly changed at the quarterback position with the Commanders Jayden Daniels,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Marcus Merita. Has the product really changed that much? No,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think so either. And it's like,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: if you're a Washington fan, you're in hell because this
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: is twenty fifteen twenty sixteen all over again.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Just defensively, it's fuck.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Gilimoto. Gillamoto has a nice Gilli Moto. Gillimoto has a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: nice tear. We got a Bears fan right here. How
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: many points per game do you think a head coach
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: is worth?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Diehard Bears fan here, I'm almost willing to give Ben
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Johnson plus six points. This is a per This is
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: a per team by team basis. See Rabel is like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: plus three and a half. But I think at this
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: point for Able over Johnson.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: If you have this whole thought process in one tweet,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson's for sure worth six points. They score on
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: every drug opening drive and that's just your script, your
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: top fifteen.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: What would you say McVeigh is.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: McVay is tough because Stafford?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, these are so all these but definitely.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Nine. How you going to just playing the Gillia motto game.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: But for Gilly moto? How you giving Ben Johnson six
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: and Brable three and a half. And you're like, but
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I like Rabel.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: That's like me saying the Patriots the best team, but
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I also think are better and Red But I don't know,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: Andy Reid did it with McNabb and stuff in Philly
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: and then with Alex.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: You got to give Andy Reid at least plus eight
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: more than giving double digits Andy Reid more than Braves. Yeah.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I think you look at the historically like their resumes.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, uh cam at Cameron Leech twenty three,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: George Jonathan Taylor deserves MVP if it keeps this up.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I get it's a quarterback award, but this is a historic,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: historic season. Should the NFL move to an MVP and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: a MVQB award. No, I think we need to get
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: back to who's the best player in the NFL, and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: right now it's Jonathan Taylor. Without a doubt. He's got
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Do you have three again?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 7: I saw a stat between through ten games last year,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: Saquon had like I think Jonathan Taylor's had eleven hundred
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 7: and thirty nine yards. I think through ten games last
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: year had eleven hundred and thirty seven yards. So Jonathan
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 7: Taylor is ahead of Saque's pace last year.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: And he's got to be way ahead of him in touchdowns,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Like what's he on pace for?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: He's right now on pace to break the record touchdown wise,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I think he has like fifteen touchdowns
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 7: this year sixteen, So he's not on.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we start having that conversation.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: He's he's what is he in the fandowadds thirds he
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: moved up from twelve to third after this past weekend.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is in the MVP race. It's gonna be
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: harder for the run back to keep it up.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Then it is a quarterback the last quarter.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: No kids in the morning, man, kids in the morning,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: the noon. I'm like watching them all.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 7: Well, if he if Jonathan Taylor runs for like nineteen
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: hundred yards and like twenty six touchdowns and account has
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 7: like four or five more receiving touchdowns, so accunts for
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: almost thirty touchdowns. Do you think that's MVP worthy?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I do.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Would love to see two thousand.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: I love you get But again, well, what's the what's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the touchdown record for running backs?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Twenty six?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: I thought it was twenty seven, twenty eight.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Davian Thomason in two thousand and six had twenty six
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: or twenty eight and he won MVP. I think it's
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: the last running back to win it.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: It it truly, it all depends with Drake May and Stafford.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Like Stafford is blowing it up right now.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 7: Drake already has more touchdown Stafford has more touchdowns this
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: year already than he did all of last year.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What what's he thrown for in the last three games?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Thirteen stupid? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he's been having fantasy
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: you should be playing Yeah yeah yeah. And then again,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Drake May. It's like if the Patriots in the year
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: and they're the one seed in the AFC and Drake
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: May continues to play the way he's been playing, with
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: the stat line he has, it's gonna be very hard
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: to not give it to Drake May.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the problem is like Jonathan Taylor has to
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: do like those types of numbers you're talking about, like
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: two thousand and thirty total touchdowns. Yeah, on a show,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: but he continues to put on a show man continuing awesome,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: like came down to the wire overtime.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 7: Falcons are the most bipolar team.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: In the bipolar man. They Yeah, they are bro they Falcons.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: If you were like a betman, you want to stay
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: away from the Falcons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're on the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: no bet list.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Away from Miami.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think they're either.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Getting blown out or blowing you out.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you want to stay away from Miami as well.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: I'd put them on the note.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: I feel like even Falcons players like bees On, he's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 7: on the no bet list as well.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: What's yeah, what's going on? Dude? I have him and
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: like Algier whatever, dude, who cares? I shouldn't know his name.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Bijon should be starting.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 7: He should be playing every single every snap like he was.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: Two touchdowns.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Middle of October, We're sitting on ESPN and Darren Lofsky
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: goes by middle of November, BJ Robbins won't be in
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: the m v P conversation since then. He's on downhill.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: And here's our here's our last tier talk here from
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Jonah conson Jonah K six two on x hashtag teer talk.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Do you think Cleveland Browns fans are the most tortured
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: in franchise history and what would you do to get
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: them to a championship level team? I I don't know
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: that last part of the answer. I would say, are
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: you the most tortured fans? Like there's some there's some
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: brutal fan bases out there. Machine being with the.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Jets, dude. Last week I was doing the Gillette thing
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: and I went and did a like local Jets podcast,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: and the guy just you could tell there was so
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: much torture behind those eyes, but he was smiling the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: entire time like he he's like in twenty years when
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: we're good, Like I'm gonna be sitting here like I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: like people are born into it, which I'm sure they are.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: The Cleveland I would give the edge of the Jets,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: though Baker Market every year is their year. There's always
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: some sort of glimmer of hope Like this year, it's
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: they've traded away everything, So like twenty twenty six is
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: going to be your year and it's not.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: What about?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Uh, I could say I could give the edge to
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Cleveland just because you just because you also live in Cleveland.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: I mean it takes a real sicko Cleveland or Jersey
• 1:11:41
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• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: But like yeah, I mean you think about those that
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: the quarterbacks that they have gone through. They've gone through
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: like thirty quarterbacks and still and.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: You have Baker Mayfield. Bro, you can just stay with
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield and the way to get a championship. Move
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: the team fresh. Start first at Eyes, you know, Bahama
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: team something, do something different, you know, Key West, San Diego,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: the San Diego be so sick.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: The San Diego Browns. Yeah, doesn't feel right?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, feel right? I mean you don't have to keep
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: the load of the Browns.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, all right, boys will feel good.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out where they're gonna go.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Utah, send them up to Alaska, give Alaska one of them.
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  Speaker 3: Put them overseas. You know they're talking about expanding overseas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, move them overseas.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL is coming first. Mitch is doing this. That
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  Speaker 1: Okay, the way we're sitting, so.
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• 1:15:34
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• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: Bed before everybody in the bed. Who's winning that thing? Now?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Georgia Tech's winn't it? As what's happening? And did Miami
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: find themselves? Now they're gonna have a possibility to jump
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: into the championship.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Game, so they could like this will be for any
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: ACC SI goos out there, But Georgia Tech is eight
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: to one, Virginia gets upset by Wake, Louisville gets upset
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: by Cal. So you have Virginia as a two loss team,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Louisville's a two loss team. It's a two loss team
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: in Miami, all two loss teams. So I think it
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: is safe to say that there will only be one
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: ACC team getting one.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: There will only be one, I know, dude, No, I
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 10: If if Georgia Tech is only has one loss and
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 10: they lose their conference championship game, they might not get eliminated.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 10: Because they didn't eliminate SMU last year in the same scenario.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: But that call, that's a great call. They would have
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: to beat Obviously, with them being a one loss or
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: losing the championship, that means they're beating Georgia. They'd have
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: to be george So we need Georgia to take care
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: of business. We need Georgia to take care of business.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Georgia takes care of business only one Accoys. I feel,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: is this bust a little anti ACC right now? Yes,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: very very Why I'm not pro ok right now? I'm
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: a I'm an independent. I'm just trying to figure out
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: I want to be on and I feel like linesman
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: John and the Sanders, I just want to know where
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: I stand.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Here's my breakdown of why it seems like we are
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: now anti ACC. Wasn't before all this chaos started to ensue.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: It's like Miami was supposed to be dominant team old
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: college football season until they did what Miami does. So
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: when they lost too, it's kind of like, oh shit,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: you got Georgia Tech. They were supposed to be dominant.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Who'd they end up losing to Duke not too long ago? Duke,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: Who's they beat?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Duke. That's right, because they're.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 7: All Duke just lost a Yukon over the weekend and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 7: has been.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: And Duke has just weirdly been his favorite. It's like
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Illinois and other school It's like, what are y'all doing
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: out here.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: In our brains? Because us two sitting up there were
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: more Big Ten then the boys in the back of
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: us SEC. We look at SEC, you look at Big Ten,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: even the Big Twelve to a certain extent, acc to me,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: is just not like as far as depth throughout the
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: entire conference. Clemson was supposed to be a dog this year.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: They weren't. Then Virginia coming out of nowhere. Louisville's a
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: good football team. I will give Louisville credit to me
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: that they've been somebody who been consistent over.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: The football team, playoff, football team, or just good football team.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: If Louisville would have been a one loss team, that's
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: where in my brain, that's where you start to Okay,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: let's see them getting the College Wall playoff. But again,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: acc with all these two loss teams, to me, they're
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: not a conference that's going to have a lot of
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: these two loss conversations that the Big Ten's going to
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: have that, the SEC is going to have that the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Big twelve can have in a couple scenarios.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: A lot of the ACC teams somehow don't play each
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: other either, That's what says.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is very odd. That is very odd
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: how that works out that way.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, and the way everybody was talking about again, all
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: the massive implications going on inside of.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: The chance to get three correct one at one point
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: there was four that would be arguing, four that'd be
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: arguing in the ACC.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Around all this chaos talk from the other big games
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: that are going on, say, oh shit, the ACC could
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: really blow up all of college football if they have
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of the they have like four teams two
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: with one loss, two with two laws. They're all kind
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: of beating each other. How do you keep them out?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: We know what these bad losses over the weekend, these ups.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: We know who they are. We know they are who
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: we thought they were at the beginning of the year.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: So not anti ACC, but just these upsets kind of
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: save college football.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're more anti ACC because we want
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 7: to see like more SEC and Big ten teams get
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 7: in and like with.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: These teams, are you guys, are just you guys are
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: just you're not anti ACC, you're just more Hey, we
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: got to keep the timeline correct. And having four A
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: SEC teams in college playoffs. I think one was invited.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: They said, hey, can I bring somebody? Like you can
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: maybe bring two, but that person wanted to bring two people.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: And we're like, this HiT's get a little fucked up.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: A couple of people bailed out. Now just maybe one
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: person's coming to the playoffs.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: This bus is pro good football teams getting into college.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: For I like, that's it just because they like that,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: just because they have the ACC tie that day, and
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: that's what's unfortunate. But it's like you're seeing these teams
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: and it's like they're not They're not in these conversations
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: with everybody else.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: It's so it's yeah, because what we're looking at possibly
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: four SEC teams correct, possibly four big ten teams. Now
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: that is totally based on Michigan be Ohio State, which
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: last four years, but we know Ohio State's looking like
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: a juggernaut. Michigan still figuring it out. But yeah, Indiana
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: they'll make it, Ohio State will make it. And I'm
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: assuming Organ Washington shit the bed.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bring a big ten Washington the bed usc US
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: season there, Steal has to play Oregon. They do.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: They still have to play Oregon, and I think one
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: other team that you're like, oh, that's not necessarily a
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: win right there. So you're looking at those three and
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: that if Michigan can beat Ohio State, you gotta let
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Michigan in as well. Michigan wins yeah, well yeah, they're in.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Michigan controls their destiny. There's an absolute fucking juggernaut at
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: the end of that twelve.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: But hey, if we want it happened last year, If
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: we want big ten chaos, Michigan wins out and USC
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: wins out, but go do then you.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Have USC schedule real quick. If USC is a two
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: loss team, they're getting they're in. They are in.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: It's Oregon who would be a two loss team that
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: could not get in. Michigan could not get in. But
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: as far as Michigan, as far as arguments to get
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: teams in the like, that's where it's like, Okay, we
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: would see some good chaos.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Michigan gets in, Michigan wins out, and you beat the
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: number one team in the country, like you're in, right.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: I think that that's that's like a Yeah, that's done right.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: That argument is for sure, they're all. All I'm saying is,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: if you're looking at these two loss teams and only
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: one of them gets in, you can't not look at
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: the head to head with with USC and Michigan.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: They got Iowa. But it's it's it's in l A.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: And I think that's a much different vibe than an
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Iowa say.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Look, it's a tough Iowa football Iowa.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: They travel out to the coast, though, Can those corn
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: fed boys look at the coast for the first time
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: not get distracted?
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Can us see out physical the more physical team.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: They've done it before, right.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: So it's like this Iowa team is a tough football team.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Now you can't sleep on them. Can't sleep on them.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: Then you got to Oregon. That'll be the big one
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: that'll be.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: In U C. L A. Which we found out this
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: weekend they've finally been putting their players by the Huskers.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: TJ.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: Latif I tried telling everybody, what is I know, I
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: know we usually we saved Nebraska talk for the end,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: but what is the conversation surrounding Lincoln? If TJ. Latiff
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: has tho that game he had? Yeah, three more times?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Is here a quarterback controversy in Lincoln, Nebraska? Did you
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: see the I saw I saw somebody tweet that. I
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: saw you tweet that.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: Did you see Ben Affleck in the corner?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: Did you see?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Did you see Sidney Sweeney's interview last week that was
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: going viral Coach McGuire, but her denim coach McGuire, he
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: can hear this. He we're talking about coach ruling the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Huskers right now? Did you Yeah? Did you see the
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: way Sidney Sweeney answered that pr question last week?
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Until there's a problem I wanna address, I'll if.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's something there, you will hear me
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: speak on it. But right now, there's nothing there. With TJ.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Latiff and being the future quarterback of Nebraska, this is
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: one football. He's a freshman, right, and he's a baller.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: But again, this is this is this is not a
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: big enough sample size. If you're gonna get a sample
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: size of TJ. Latif, and this would actually be a conversation,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: you need three or four games of ball before you
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: play like a good defense, because after three or four
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: games you now have tendencies to where it's like, all right,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: they called the game a certain way out there against
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: UCLA four TG latite to be successful and he bowled
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: out and UCLA.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: Didn't know what you guys are gonna do? Right, I
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: understand that. Yeah, what the original question was is if TJ.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Latif plays like that for the next three four games.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if that becomes an issue, that's when Will Compton
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: will speak on it.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: Right now, that's what we'll have the conversation. Let's have
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: the conversation. But coach Rewire, let's get.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Left talking about the Huskers.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: He got a little nervous, got a little nervous.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: He's like I watched Busts with the boys. You're gonna
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: have to give Will about ten to fifteen minutes with
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: the Huskers.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: Here's what I love. Coach, Hey, please, just let's give
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: a coach a right of applause real quick for being
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: in here. Big win, big win and tahos uh. We
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: have a lot of coaches on that after big games
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: they get wins and they do a zoom call with
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: us and every coach like Dan lenn he's got the
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: big oh in the back with some wings going off.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: We had who's the coach for Notre Dame who's the
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: coach for Freeman? Freeman, He's got the nice wood. I
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: love the simplicity of your desk right now. Looks like
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: you're sitting at a cubicle. You're keeping the main thing,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: the main thing. Well, everybody is like, this team is
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: spending all the money in the world. How does it
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: feel to have college game day in Lubbock, Texas and
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: be able to put on a performance that you guys
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: did against BYU.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: It was incredible. I wish I would have got to
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: experience it starting Sunday because they started camping out on Sunday.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: There was a there was a party Tuesday night, Wednesday night,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: Thursday night that I've never seen anything like it. I
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: wanted to be a college kid.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: You.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, we got barber's out there, we had two
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: DJ's out there, we had a couple of people doing nails.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: Thursday night went all that long, I mean in the
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: entire night, So it was pretty incredible. And then having
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: game day here and it just made it even better
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: that Friday night going into Saturday morning.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: You got a seven days of parting to taking place.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: You've got twenty three transfers and everyone transfer portal classes.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Last year everyone's playing like absolute dogs together like they've
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: been they have no other since birth. What's the conversation
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: like with these guys when you're like, hey, listen, I
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: know there's some pretty girls out there right now and
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: they're partying Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday for this game,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: how do you limit distractions and keep these guys focused
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: on ball? Because we've all been in college, we've all
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: been out there. There's a couple of parties going on.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Nothing says I want to be undisciplined like a Tuesday
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: night party, no doubt.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: A couple of things. One, we embraced it from the standpoint,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: like it literally you walked out of our front door
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: and the tempts were right there outside of our facility.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: We connect our facility connects to the stadium and so
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: it was right outside. So like Wednesday practice, we walked
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: through it going down to the stadium to end practice.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: So we embraced it. But the one thing, this is
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: an old team. We like in our advanced scouting, there
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: hasn't been a team yet that is taking as many
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: snaps offensive, defensively and special teams as this team has.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: So this is an old team and they understand man,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: we talk about it all the time, you know, make
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: it about football, like all the stuff around it. That's
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: the great thing about college football, the pageantry, you know,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: everything that goes on to get to Saturday. But when
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: that ball is kicked off, we got to make it
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: about football.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: And they did a.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: Great job of doing it, you know, and really policing themselves.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Coach, Clearly, the job is not finished. But going into
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: the season, you know, the speculation around Texas Tech and
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: all the guys that you brought in from the portal,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: the talk was you guys brought in a lot of mercenaries.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Is this money and everything else paying these players? Is
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: it actually going to work out? And you were having
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: conversation with Josh Payton everybody else saying that this is
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: as close of a group as you've been around. Clearly,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: the job is not finished. But now looking at the
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: product that they've put on the field, how proud of you?
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: How proud are you? And not surprised are you of
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: what this football team has accomp accomplished this season?
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah? First, I love your hat man, that's awesome.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: Hey, thank you. We'll get you one. We will ship
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: you one today.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool. You know, I'm extremely proud. I'm proud
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: of the guys that we were able to retain the
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: guys that chose to stay with Baron and Jay Rod
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: Jack Rodriguez and you know, Ben Roberts, Sheridan Wilson, on
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: and on an old koy Ake and I don't want
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: to miss anybody, but I'm proud of those guys because
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: they helped me so much create what it means to
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: be a Red Raider and what are culture's all about.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: And then man, we had such buy in. Well one
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: reason I think we had such buy in, And if
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: you came into this building, you would understand this. There's
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: not one single person, it's on my staff that doesn't
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: believe that the most important thing we have in this
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: building is the player. And they feel it every single day.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: So if you're our head, our head dietitian, your job
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: is to make sure that you're the best in the
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: country at what you do, and you make it all
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: about the player, and it goes on and on from
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: the trainer to the street staff. And we're like that
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: every single day. We don't deviate from what we do,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: so they have a constant reminder that we care about
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: him at a very high level, and they play like it.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: And I'm proud because in this world right now, it's
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: all about you know, what have you done for me lately?
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: It's all about me, me, me, and one thing that
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: you've got to do. In a team sport, it's got
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: to be about the team. It's got to be about
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: you know, the greater, greater than yourself. And these guys
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: have really bought into that.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Coach you you brought up one name, Jacob Rodriguez, you
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: guys being in the Big twelve, him being a defensive guy.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: You have things going against you from a national media
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: layscape or national recognition. Why should a guy like Jacob
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Rodriguez being the Heisman conversation? And can you talk but
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: the impact he has as a defensive player on the field.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, And I don't want to. I'm not
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: trying to disrespect anybody. I mean, I just go back
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: and I mean, I'm a football gee, you know, I
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: mean I'm about to when we get off here, I'm
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: literally gonna pull up the brackets of the Texas High
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: School Coaches Association brackets to look through every level of
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: who's playing who, And you know, I just go back,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: and I think about different people, like whenever Travis won
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: it last year, how could you not give it to Travis.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: He's the most dominant when you look around college right now,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: Like I think the Indiana quarterbacks playing, I think that
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: the Ohio State quarterbacks playing at a high level for
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: their positions. I think Jacob rov is, Like, I know
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: there's linebackers out there, like Ohio State's got a linebacker
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: that's playing at a really high level. I just know
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: what my guy does down after down after down, and
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: there's some freaky, freaky stats. It haven't been done by
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: defensive players. Like the dudes punched out seven footballs this year.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: He had another interception that he tipped it to his cell,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: and then he recovered a fumble, I mean, and then
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: he had fourteen tackles.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: The dude just's he's an absolute machine and he's everything
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: right about college football. The dude slept on his floor
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: as a walk on during the spring semester until I
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: had a scholarship whenever he transferred from Virginia Virginia. So
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: it's it's just like there's so many things. Plus his
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: wife's a badass. He's an army of black Hawks, black
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: Hawks helicopter pilots.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: So shit, ste Dude, that is incredible. Yeah, we need
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: there needs to be.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: Like some sort of like ad campaign that takes place
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: for this individual.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: So there there is one there. Because the last time
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: a linebacker has been in the Heisman conversation was Mantitao.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Man Titayo had about one and thirteen ten. Right now,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Jacob Rodriguez is on pace to beat that. He's averaging
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: like eight and a half nine a game. Main Titeo
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: had seven takeaways during his senior season. Coach has mentioned it.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: He's punched out seven balls, he's forced seven fumbles, and
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: he has ten takeaways right now on the season alone.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: So I do think that conversation will start really coming alive.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: But dude, that is incredible. The whole sleeping on the floor,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: that is awesome.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: You brought up having conversations with players when you're bringing
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: a bunch of these guys in and one Newsworthy type
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: thing was you had a bunch of guys that played
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: for you last year on the defensive line, and then
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: you brought in a bunch of individuals as well. I
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: want to know how that conversation takes place with these
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: guys that play a lot of snaps for you, they're
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: expecting to take the next step, they want to be
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: a starter. They have dreams and aspirations of being in
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: the NFL, and you essentially have to sit there and
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: be like, hey, we're bringing in these guys, You're going
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: to be more of a rotational player. Like, talk to
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: me about those players their ego and how they're able
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: to put it to the side and understand that the
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: team's most important, but also like they're chasing their dreams.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Is a very unique situation that you have in a
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: world that everybody just wants to get the most money
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: and the most playing time. We had a bunch of
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: cake eaters in college football right now it seems like
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech does not have any of those.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: One.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: You know, it's probably easier on the defensive side of
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: the ball than on the office side of the ball,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: because you know, you do rotate a lot of guys,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: so you're gonna have snaps kind of be broken up.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: But you know, I think one thing I can tell
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: you is we brought in dudes like and so I
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: think if you're real, if you really understand football and
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: you bring in a Romeo Height and you're sitting there
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: trying to compare yourself to Romelo Height. You find out
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: real quiet quick that you can't compare yourself to that dude.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: When you bring in a David Bailey and you're like, man,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: I should be playing over this guy. And then you
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: see David Bailey play it, You're like, you have to
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: like be so delusional that you're not supposed to be
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: behind him. And so I think that helps, Like you
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: gotta be real careful. I remember saving saying it last week.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: Got to be in the right guys, who got to
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: pay the right guys, and and so I think that's
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: really important. But I do believe talking to these guys
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: too about look, he is only gonna make you a
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: better football player, because one, you're gonna try to play
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: to his level. In two, in the defensive line, you're
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: not supposed to be playing seventy and eighty snaps. You
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: know you're not supposed to be, And so you get
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: some of that taken off your body and you're gonna
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: get to play at a higher level. So they understand that.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: But that was one thing that was important. It's like
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: I was talking to my GM and I was like, man,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: when we bring guys in, if they're comparable our guy,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: then why are we doing it. We got to bring
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: in dudes that are definitely gonna make us better and
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: our players can see that.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Coach, I know, I listened to your interview with Josh Payton.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: You brought up a couple couple of mentors, a couple
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: guys along the way, and it was a coach woods
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: and coach rule. And so I reached out the coach
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: rule and asked him and told him that I'll be
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: having you on this morning, and he wanted me to
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: bring up your first interview with him at I hop
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: How was that breakfast?
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 6: Well, I've been We went.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: To about three pots of coffee. You know. It was
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: one of those deals I'll never forget. It was a
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: Sunday morning, and we had to do it on Sunday
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: because he works for me, David Martin. He was playing
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: for a state championship in Oklahoma Friday night, and we
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 4: had this deal to where whoever lost had to cross
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: the Red River and go watch the other guy play.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: So I was supposed to interview with Coach Roll on Friday,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: and I called him. I said, Coach I'll do I'll
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: come back Saturday morning. I'll do whatever I said, But
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: I can't watch my buddy not play for the state championship.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: And so he won his first state championship. Came back
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: to Texas and met with coach in Hillsborough and I
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: hop and my wife, whenever I was leaving, she goes,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: you know you're never gonna leave.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: Why are you.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: Going to talk to this guy? And I said, man,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: there's just something about him and I got to find
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: out what it is. And whenever I walked out at
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: the meeting here, I called Debbie and I said, hey,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: if he offers us a job of going to favor
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: and the thing that he talked about is how much
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: he pour and he does and everything he said he
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: does he pours into players. I believe in that. I
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: believe in making these guys men that they're supposed to become, and.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: He does that.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: He is a tough guy. His teams are physical. I
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: believe in that.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: And so we just hit it off.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: And I tell everybody this, if I hadn't have been
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: hired by Matt Rule, because I was probably going to
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: go to college, I had the opportunity, but that was
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: my son's senior year and everything was going to change.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be at Texas Tech without Matt Role, and
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: the reason is because he has no ego when it
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: comes to pour an end of coaches. And I walked
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: by his office one day day and he said get
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: in here. This is like three to four weeks into
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: the job, and he goes, hey, man, you're supposed to
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: be a head coach. I've been a head coach fourteen years.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, I like to think
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: that I should be. He goes, no, no, no, you're
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: supposed to be a head coach at this level. Let
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: me show you what you don't know. And it was
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: roster management. It was about recruiting. It was about graduating
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: players early, letting them start their masters when they still
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: had two years left in the program. Like just stuff
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: like that that you know as a high school coach
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: I didn't have to deal with.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: That is awesome. That is awesome. He also said, you
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: loved wearing a jacket in mornings in case they made
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: the coaches run.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you it was. It was pretty
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: cold one morning and I should have known by his reaction.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: So i' mean we're going to.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: The indoor to do our fourth quarter. And it's in February,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: and I've got shorts on, and I said, how's it going, coach,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: And he goes, not good. He was pissed off about
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: something and I should have turned around and got some clothes.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: Well I didn't, and instead of doing the fourth quarter
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: and in or we did the fourth quarter and in
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: the frost and helped the football field and I froze
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: my tailloff and being on it didn't matter what the
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: weather was like. I dressed warm for those early mornings
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: because I didn't know what kind of mood it was
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: going to be in. And I make sure my taillof
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: While you were telling those amazing stories, I was handed
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: a note by one of our producers. Texas Tech has
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: never won a Big twelve championship. And I don't say
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: that to rub it in. I said, because you're a
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: staring down the barrel of an opportunity here to bring
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: home the first Big Big twelve championship to Texas Tech.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is at the game this past weekend. He's
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: talking about, you know, when I was here, we didn't
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: really have this kind of environment. It's so amazing to
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: see love of Texas like acting like this crazy. They're
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: they're they're camping out seven five, six days before. Now
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to do something that Texas Tech
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: has never done. You have a massive game with college
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: game be there. Now, you got UCF coming in. How
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: do you keep the train and keep these guys all
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: focused knowing that you're have the opportunity to do something
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: that's never been done before at that College'll.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: Go back to the coach rule, you know, his big
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 4: motto is what's next?
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: And I walked into the locker room. I was one
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: of the first guys in the locker room after the
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: game and Jake Brodriguez I think it was the first
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: player in the game. And I came over and gave
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: him a hug and said how proud I was of him,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: and he goes, Coach, I just want to remind you
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: this wasn't our goal and we got more in front
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: of us. He said, let's be happy, but what's next?
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: And I was like, man, here's a player saying that.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: He said it to the guys in the weight room
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 4: yesterday during our lyft before our team meeting. You know,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: we understood what a year this was. You know how
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: big of a year this was going to be because
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: we can eliminate so many excuses and things that people
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 4: use against us in recruiting. You know, we we have
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: the best facility in the country. I mean, it's absolutely incredible,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: and so whenever people say we got better facilities now
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: they don't. We share at the highest level when it
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: comes to the revenue sharing. So it's not the money.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: You know. The thing that people can use against us
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: is we've never won the Big twelve. So that's that's
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: the next box we're trying to check off. So now
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: we have no excuse to you know, compete for it.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: You're in and year out.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Coach Man. We're rooting for you the rest of the way, bro,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you for taking time out of your morning to
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: join busting with the boys. Good luck. The rest of
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: the way, we will be rooting for you, and we
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: will be you know, as a linebacker, I'll be helping
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: try and carry the torch to get Jacob Rodriguez in
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: more of this national conversation. But thank you, thank you man.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 6: I'm a big fan of you guys.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: I freaking love it. I love what you do for
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: college football and really appreciate having me on.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Man, we gotta get out there. We gotta get out there.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta go out there. If this is an invite, I'm.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: Telling you I'll take care of you. Had the best
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: steak you've ever had.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: Man, we gotta go. We gotta go to an I Hop.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: We gotta have breakfast at I Hop, three pots of coffee,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: and then we'll finish it off with the best think
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: we've ever had. We're gonna get your address. We're gonna
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: send you a bunch of dad. Which girl are you?
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: You're obviously a father. How many kids do you have.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: I've got two kids. My daughter is a Red Raider,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: she's a fashion designer in Manhattan, New York. And my
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: son actually coached for coach Rule at Carolina Panthers at
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 4: Nebraska and now he's my running back coach.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: So keep it in the house, man, I love him.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. We'll get you some dad merch. We're looking
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: forward to seeing you during spring balls. Give coach went
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: one more round of a pause. Thank you, coach. Think
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: you've been taking the time man, Yes, sir, Indiana Penn
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: State people would keep forgetting that Penn State's got a
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: top twenty five roster, and they showed. They showed Indiana
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: that right to the end, man, what a throw and catch?
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: Who is the wide receiver they caught that ball?
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: Cooper, Dude, Cooper, unbelievable. And that Fernando Mendoza kid, he
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: is just do that final drive unreal awesome to see
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: the way he was spinning the catches that these receivers
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: are making, like only in spots that they could catch
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: him starting off and getting sacked to start the drive
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh shit, Like Penn State might
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: upset this Indiana team. Everybody's gonna be waiting to say
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: overrated all of this stuff you kind of see because
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: it's the.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: Worst team for it to happen to. Yeah, yeah, if
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Ohio State got upset by by Penn State, would be
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: the whole conversation will be around, Well, that's a good roster.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: Those guys are all you know, James Franklin's gone blah
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: blah blah. Indiana loses, It's like they are who we
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: thought they were. Yeah, yeah, people are begging Indiana to suck.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: You think, so what Gi Sa Guigo's They still might
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: be who we thought they.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: Were, they could be, like, that's gonna be the first
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: thing if they drop a game, if they you know,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: college will playoff. Let's say their ranked in the top four,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: because that's where they're trending right now. We'll actually get
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: to watch them against Ohio State most likely in the
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship, so we will get to see. But
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: I just think, like for Fernando Mendoza, the whole Heisman
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: campaign and everything else, like there are moments that guys
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: are gonna have to have, and I feel like he
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: got to have a Heisman moment on that final drive,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: like this dude was spinning the rock. But they very
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: well could be, like they could get their ass beat
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: like they did last year in the college wool will playoff.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to walk through for the rest of
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: their season. They Wisconsin and Purdue. Matt Matt put it
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: on what's that Wisconsin? That's a good that's a good
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: Washington football team. What do you argue the best quarterback,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: running back, receiver trio and all the Big Ten?
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: What do you got jp?
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 9: Matt put it on our radar this morning. One of
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 9: the Indiana receivers is from father Ian. He had seven
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 9: catches yesterday for like one hundred and thirty yards.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: Is this the same kid who was like his career
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: he had seven catches and just in this game alone,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: he doubled his career catches. Probably because I saw a
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: stat line. I don't remember who exactly it was, but
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: it was like seven catches, one hundred and thirty something.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: Nashville guys dominating college football.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: Dude, boys man love to see it.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: What what are your guys' thoughts on the Fernando Mendoza
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: Julian saying Heisman race Heisman conversation. I'm fired up about
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: learning more about Jacob Rodriguez. You see names getting thrown around,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, Jeremiah love, Ty Simpson in the conversation, Emmitt
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: Johnson getting in the conversation.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: Hneyards rushing, hun yards receiving in a game this year.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say he's the first guy in
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: the history for Nebraska to really I know somebody was
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: kind of trying to fact check it, like, I don't
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: know if that's confirmed. That's what was. You're even Rex
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: didn't receive, He didn't play receiver as much as a mirror.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, bro, Emma Johnson's flat out bawling, like the
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: dude should be absolutely an All American for him to
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: have what does he have? He leads the country. I
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: believe in all purpose he's one or two. He's one
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: or two. He's second in rushing, second in rushing. Fourteen
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: touchdowns he said, two twenty and three touchdowns this past
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: game against UCLA. He's a baller bro he's balling. But
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: to bring it back, like, what are your guys thoughts
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: on the conversation, I was going back and forth with
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: some Ohio State fans. I'm doing my best about yo.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: Julian Saying is a stud. I believe he's a stud.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: The only the only game I've been able to watch
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: of Ohio State that like I really would tune into
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: was the Penn State game last week and then when
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: they played Washington, And it's like, Julian Saying is a
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: good football player. He throw, he gets the ball out quick,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: he makes great decisions when he gets in a pinch,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: he uses his legs, his limited athletic ability to get
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: him the first down to move the chains. They don't
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: have like the best run game in the in the
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: entire world. But my question is, is Julian Saying that
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: good or does he have the two best wide receivers
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: in college football and for that reason he is that good.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some sort of combination of the two.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: And being a Michigan guy, I don't want to like
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: disrespect the kid, because I do think he's balling out
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: right now, but there is something to be said about,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: you know, Jeremiah Smith and was it Cardinell.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 7: Take Carnell tell you, I think he does definitely have
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 7: freaks around him. I mean, he's it looks like he's
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 7: the Him and Mendoz are tied at plus one sixty
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 7: five when the FANDUL sports book at for odds, and.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: The next one's Ty Simpson at plus five hundred, So
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: right now it's a two man race.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think Marcel Reid, with who he's like,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 7: the teams that he's playing, and how he's like played,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 7: I think he should be higher up. But I think
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 7: like if Fernando Mendoza wins it, I think it's kind
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 7: of like a boring Heisman Trophy winner because he hasn't
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 7: like he doesn't really make flashy plays. He just doesn't
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 7: necessarily make them. Those mistakes. Niniana hasn't necessarily played anybody
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 7: other than Oregon, and I don't think if I remember correctly,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 7: he played all that well. Like neither of them have
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 7: really had like a oh, that's like their Heisman moment,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 7: that's their Heisman game. Like I think Jeremiah Love he's
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 7: a stud and I mean what he put he had
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 7: like six touchdowns in one.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: Game or whatever it was.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember somebody said he would be the Heisman.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: I forget who it was.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: For me.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: It's just like the comparable that I was diving into
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: was being surrounded by freaks. People brought up Joe Burrow
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, well Joe Burrow threw for like
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: over six thousand yards or like around six thousand yards
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: and what sixty touchdowns. Yeah, and he goes on He's,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: you know, undefeated season, He's beaten teams Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: like the schedule that Ohio States had. If Julian Saying
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: is surrounded by these freaks because like their run game
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: has been what it's been in the past at Ohio State,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: like Julian Saying, like they would be dominating teams and
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: he would his stat line would be far and above
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: anybody else's and since it's comparable with Fernando Mendoza, Mendoza
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: having like a Heisman moment that people got to kind
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: of witness on the stage against Penn State when Penn
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: State was about to upset them. I just think it's like, Yo,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Bernando Mendoza's has done more with lay with way less
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: as he's kind of come onto the scene.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: I agree with that, but also like Ohio State, you
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: can tell the trust they have and Julian standing because
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: they their run game is not as good, but they
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: do not want to run the ball. They want to
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: throw the ball. And so the kid's been putting the
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: ball in the right spot very rarely, as there are
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of like dbs drenched around these wide receivers,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: but he's still like he throws a great deep ball,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: puts it right in the bucket. I mean, these guys
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: going across the field like there's no one around, but
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: he's putting it right on the chest to the wide receivers. Yeah,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: there's a level of like this kid has a lot
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: of talent. Obviously, I think he has. If I were
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: to give it to somebody right now, it would be
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza, for the reasons you said, like he's doing
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: he's got less players around him. I think it'd be
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: sick if Indiana got themselves a Heisman winner Ohio State.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: How many do they have, like five or six something
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like usually in college football there's
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: somebody who's just dominating the statu sheet. And if somebody
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: is gonna be doing it, it would be Julian Insane
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: right now. And it's just not dominant the way that
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: you would typically see one of these Beast quarterbacks, especially
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: when you're surrounded by aliens, like dominating the scene all
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: season long.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: I do like the Marshall Reider. I like the Marshall
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: read like he is a fucking baller.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 7: Really insane. I think as like an eighty percent completion percentage,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 7: which is kind of insane.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: Throws a good d ball, but again it's just like
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: he has studs, so it studs.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 6: You can literally just throw it.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: Up in it two top five picks.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I agree, Like you throw you throw a
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 7: ball up to Carnel Tait and Jeremiah Smith, like a
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 7: fifty fifty ball.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 6: It's fifty.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like eighty twenty.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, like those those guys are insane. Shout out Ryan
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 7: Hartline for recruiting.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: The stat dominators.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Supposed to be Leonora Sellers, DJ Lagway. He got benched
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: over the weekend. Meyer, he was not got benched.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: What a weird year it's been for quarterbacks. Yeah, like
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: it was a kid club Nick. He was supposed to
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: be something special. Yeah, and I haven't really heard about
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: him at all since who they lose to you early
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: in the year l s U but somebody else. Yeah,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: but this the second loss, when we're like, okay, Clemson's frauds,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: it was like kid's been Like now out of the conversation,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: Nut Meyer, he's got no bleak. He doesn't have a bleak.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: Now he's like benched. It's crazy. Diego Pavia, that was
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: a fun conversation for a week. Now he's seventeenth. He
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: went off. But I feel like that that conversation's kind
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: of like gone away.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 6: Is up there?
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen quarterbacks.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 10: Okay, I was going I was going to say, I
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 10: still think Diego Pobby has a real shot to win
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 10: the Heisman if they went out beat Tennessee get into
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 10: college football playoff.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 6: I think Poppy has got a real shot to.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: Win, especially when you get the pavia moments going like yeah,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: if they if they win out and he's got the
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: Paviat moments, he'll very much be in that conversation.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 10: He'll have his Heisman moment if they beat Tennessee when
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 10: those other guys don't really have a Heisman moment yet,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 10: but they will play the conference championship against each other.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 10: Mendoza and saying four technically the big ten and the Heisman.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 10: Did I say when I'm taking Vanderbilt money Line versus Tennessee?
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: Letting it be known right now, Jack, how'd your Florida
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: Gators do?
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: This week?
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: We're focused on the next head coach. It was the
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: worst loss in school history.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 10: To quote Josh Pat, they watched the games in black
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 10: and white since the last time Florida was beat that bad.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: But Brian stock Low, Hey, Brian Stocklow.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 10: Lane Kiffin will be the next head coach of the
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 10: Florida Gators and Vanderbilt money Line.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't care what Clump has to say.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 8: His opinion to me is truly that of like a
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 8: teenager who doesn't know what breakfast heial he wants to eat.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: You really rounded that out, Jack, because I saw you
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: like thinking through that insult.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not at this point, Tennessee season's over. I mean,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 8: I'm just stoked for Vanny to come in to kneeling
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 8: and hear that noise. It's gonna be loud as hell.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 8: People hate Diego, Pavia, Knoxville. It's gonna be loud. And
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 8: I'm not saying it's gonna be easy. But Clump texted
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 8: our social group me while I was away for a
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 8: wedding this weekend. It was the only text I even
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 8: looked at, and it was Tennessee is gonna lose to
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 8: Florida and Vanderbilt.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 6: And I knew he was just saying it.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 4: No, no, there's context, the context.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be on the camera.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 10: Porter posted, uh, Tennessee has a real chance to make
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 10: the playoff, and I said, there's no shot Tennessee can
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 10: make the playoff.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 6: That's what the discussion was.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: Got you got you we do?
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: Mitch brought it up Marcel Reed Garrett before we came on.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: He was kind of saying that Texas A and M
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: should be the number one of the team in the country.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: My question to you guys, why.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about like beating teams bad. I
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: feel like A and M is beating teams bad. They
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: beat the ship out of.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: Missou closer for a sec? What's that close for a second?
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, second third string quarterback?
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: I mean okay, but like, but you're talking about like
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: Ohio State should be blowing people out. They're not really
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 3: blowing people out.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 3: They also had a close game against Penn State, whose garbage.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: Penn State's not going Okay, So who is who is
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: A and M beat outside of Notre Dame? What do
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: you mean who's A and M beat outside of Notre Dame.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at Auburn. They're not good. Florida is trash.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Arkansas they beat Arkansas by three points. They beat Notre Dame. Yeah,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: I sit outside of Notre Dame.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: Who's there?
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: Who's their best one? They beat Notre Dame by one? Yes,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: But so is Ohio State.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just telling you my side of the argument.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: I think that what they're doing is proving more than
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: what Ohio State in Indiana's prove.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: I love how Will asked a question. I'm going, here's
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: your kids have to say? Who the fuck did they
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: played dunk team.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 6: I don't see nobody. Here's who they're going again.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: Here's what happens. People latch onto the Penn State. Penn
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: State's a bad football team, like still arguably an incredible roster,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: which a lot of these SEC teams have, and they
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: still end up like laying eggs. Like these teams that
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm mentioning are like not good. Okay, so people
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: talk about Ohio State's schedule, Indiana's schedule. It's like, okay, well,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: what do you compare?
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: Would you compare Penn State's roster in Florida's roster like
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: in that type of argument.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think all these teams are right
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: off in the SEC at one point time, it's like
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: this could be a good team because they have good rosters.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: So what was the score for the Penn State Indiana
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: game right now?
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 6: They one score?
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeahaha.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: If you're going to compare rosters that way, A and
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: M beat Florida thirty four to seventeen.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: They also beat Arkansas by three points. Okay, they almost
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: got upset by Arkansas.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: Like this conversation will will hear the same thing is
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: I have one belief and you have.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: The other well, because again, yeah, I'm setting I was
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: like setting that up because I'm like excited to have
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: this argument because everybody, everybody want to say a.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: Thirty one they're putting up. They beat Notre Dame forty
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: one to forty.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: At Notre Dame in the year Notre Dame done fumble this.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: Same points and am should have lost that game. There's
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: a massive holding on fourth down too, say it again.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that they are beating teams at
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: a larger margin than some of these other undefeated teams.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: I think Ohio State matches up real well against Texas.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: It'll be a great game.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be a fantastic game. I don't think
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: you can take away Texas at one just because they're
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: quietly beating everybody. And I think they're covering too Texas
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: at A and M. No, I'm sorry, Ohio State. You
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: can't take Ohio State at away at one because they're
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: just like they beat Texas, which is like their biggest win.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: Texas has come back in big way, but that wasn't
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: the team they played a week one. They've just quietly
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: been doing their thing like their schedule is their schedule.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: But they're beating teams, they're covering against teams and they
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: never seen it. Like they just seem very complete and
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: they're like onto the next like they seem like they're
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: stacking blocks as opposed to yea, you know the other
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: really good teams where it's like, oh shit, are.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: They Nobody has scored over sixteen points against ohioste.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: Right, which hasn't happened since twenty thirteen or twenty twenty three.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: Fourteen pencety put up fourteen, Perdue put up ten, Wisconsin zero,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: Illinois sixteen, Minnesota three, Washington six.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: What are their points? What are Ohio State's points in
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: those games?
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: Hostate?
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: I think so here, I'll rattle it off because they
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: haven't outside of Ohas State vers Text where they won
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: fourteen seven, it's been seventy nothing, thirty seven nine, twenty
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: four to six, forty two to three, thirty four to sixteen,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: thirty four to nothing, thirty eight to fourteen, thirty four
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: to ten.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, they are those teams. They are
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: the most complete team in college football right now. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: seventy And you.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: Want to know something, I'd love to see him trip
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: up in the college payoffs.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: Whoa buddy, I'm letting you know. This is November twenty ninth.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, perfect game, like running the ball like they
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: if there's one thing in their defense does not do
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: extraordinarily well, it's protecting the run. And I'm telling you,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: if we can get Brian Harley, because I have so
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: much respect for Brian Hartline like him as an OC,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: He's obviously do an incredible job this year. Him as
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: a recruiter with the wide receivers, like Ohio State is
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: wide receiver. You know, people want to talk about USU
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: and all that. It's like you look at recency biased,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: all of the best wide receivers in the NFL are
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: Ohio State guys. He has done amazing. He's got two
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: top five probably two top five top ten picks at
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: the wide receiver position. Julian stand is playing incredible. But
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, dude. And Arbor Michigan November twenty ninth,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: it's it's this is the same two teams as last year,
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: but Michigan is just a little bit better. Michigan at
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: this point last year was five and four. We're seven
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: to two. We I think we're gonna stream it.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: Hey all to say, love, arguing, love all. That's what
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: makes this sport insane. I would love to see Ohio
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: State trip up against Michigan. I'd love to see Indiana
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: go undefeated in the Big Ten championship. I'd love to
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: see Ohio State whoop Indiana to where all the conversations
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: against the Big Ten. Maybe A and M goes undefeated.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: May A and M makes it goes all the way
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: to the championship, and then they just somehow lose to
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: a rematch versus Notre Dame. Then the Independence School, the
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: Independent School, Notre Dame takes everybody down to where you know,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: the SEC hasn't the Big Ten. You know they played nobody.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: Ohill State lost to Michigan. Dude, oh I'll State blew
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: out Indiana. We know Indiana was overrated there, nobody's now
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: we're in the college football.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, me while we're sitting here talking about two conferences,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten and the SEC, Texas Tech Joy McGwire, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: we could just be sitting and be like, hey, SEC's matter,
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: no Big techs man and Texas chech just fucking runs
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: through people. In the month of January, Texas Tech Notre
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: Dame in the championship.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: Big twelve in Texas Tech. That's the winner.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 6: I would love to see that.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 7: Texas defense is real, nasty, bro. I think they're like
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 7: top three, top five and like points liber game I think.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: And last year, Bro, they were like in the one twenties.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 6: They're unreal.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: I love and they're getting on the bus right too.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: They're gonna keep really because I love the idea of
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech just.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: Winnings in the best spot right watching Chaos and two, yeah.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: The best spot. And also Buddy like just to bring
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: it back to the Big Ten a little bit. Everyone
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: and their mother has been like Oregon, we're done with them.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: Since they lost Indiana. Everyone's kind of like, ah, you know,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: we'll see if they get in the playoff, see if
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: they don't. Like maybe Dan Lanny has us exactly where
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: he wants us, because last year they're flying high, right,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: they beat the brakes off of Penn State. The Big
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: Ten championship is really just a shootout. But you know
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Everyone's like, this is the team this
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, a pissed off Ohio
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: State team just comes and runs through everybody but the Ducks.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: Baby I'm the Ducks and also the Dogs bringing the
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: go back to the SEC. Dogs don't care about your feelings.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: They really don't. And they just are quietly winning games
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: and being a top five team and like kind of
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: covering they covered this past weekend then not covering. But
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: it's like Kirby Smart does not give a shit He's
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: gonna be in the SEC Championship against Alabama. Oh fuck,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: you're right. I just keep forgetting about A and M.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 7: Did you watch the Oregon Iowa?
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched. I watched the second half of it.
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  Speaker 2: I was at David Busters with five kids by myself.
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  Speaker 6: Iowa.
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  Speaker 7: I think I think Iowa has it was awesome. Iowa
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  Speaker 7: like their rush defense was like top ten as it
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 7: normally is, Like they allowed like ninety yards per game.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 7: I think Oregon rushed for like two hundred yards. They
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 7: have like a four headed monster in the running back room,
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 7: like they they can like beat whoever.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: Dud Peyton said it like Oregon. Everyone thinks it's like
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: a high flying offense. They averaged six point seven yards
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: per carry on the ground and it was what forty
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: two degrees rainy?
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  Speaker 1: They beat Iowa at Iowa football, Yes, and it couldn't
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: have started any better a safety two to nothing right
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  Speaker 1: out of there.
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  Speaker 2: Then and then they would go up with a minute
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: twenty left in the game, and then it's like, fuck
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  Speaker 2: it done, crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I was praying for just fourth quarter, it's two to nothing,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: Iowa kicks a field goal. Then Oregon goes down and
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: kicks a game winning field goal to win five.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: Also like that Steelers Chargers game.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: US, Where did Oregon end up on the AP this week?
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: Because the eight people didn't have Ioway in the top
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: twenty five last week, so I'm sure they don't see
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: it as like a quality whatsoever.
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  Speaker 7: Right now?
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  Speaker 2: Oregon seven, they dropped one spot.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could flip miss flip Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: But oh missus quiet. Everyone's like the hood coach is
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: leaving and they're just nine and one sitting there.
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  Speaker 3: We have a huge one this weekend. I do think
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 3: it's ahead, but it could shake things up.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: Who does it Bama got this week?
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma?
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because Olahoma's just kind of sitting there a bubble team.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: They're talking about them.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but as Oklahoma kind of like Missouri were like
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: just begging to stay in the playoff conversation. And then
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: it abruptly comes to a halt.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: I thought so until they went up to Tennessee and
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: we all we all watched that game and it was like,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: what the hell is going on here? Dram tier like
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: the nest. They need better offense, but like, I don't
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: see it.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: Getting more dude, that that injury, I do not see
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: it getting more.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 3: Before. Yeah, Florida and Mississippi State don't sleep, don't sleep,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 3: don't see on the rebels.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm telling dude, that Florida game right there is
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: a scary one. It shouldn't be scary, but that's when
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: it gets scary.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: Florida is dead freshmen.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: Florida is the penn state of the SEC outstanding roster.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: Can't put it together. Yeah, down their quarterback?
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: Hey Bama two on that g Like yeah, it's like
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: ty Simpson is gonna have to be connecting with these
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: explosive plays. He had a couple where he's just missing.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: And since Bama can't run the football that well like Oklahoma,
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like we'll kind of eat that up and
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: it comes down to it. It's it feels like a
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: matchup like Tennessee Oklahoma, where you guys can throw the
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: ball Well.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing I like, though, is our defense is
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 3: playing their best football right now. Yeah, Like they're flying
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: around turnovers like that. We didn't have turnovers last year
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 3: at all. We had two maybe three this game, but
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: we turned the ball over in positive territory and only
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: come out with three. Yeah, So it's like putting that away.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: Putting that away. Scoring with twenty seconds left in the
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 3: first half the last three games is the best feeling.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sending that team.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: To the locker room like, motherfucker.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: All right, what do we think is going to happen
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: in the Big twelve? Who you think is gonna be
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: in the Big twelve Championship?
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: Like, right now, I know we have I think I
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: think we have watched that game this weekend week?
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: Do you think so? You think by he takes down Cincinnati?
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I do what.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 6: That?
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm not saying he doesn't he doesn't need
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: any Yeah, I don't need anymore. It's just more like
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati has been a good team. They've kind of been
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: fun to watch and see what.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, b y you Cincinnati YU drops to Cincinnati? Does
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: that put Utah in the Big Big twelve Championshipnati.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, We've only lost one one conference game, yes.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: And quietless. So Utah is just gonna be in the
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: Big is gonna be in the playoff?
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: Help Utah last week?
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: There?
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: Well, Utah might need help, but they're gonna be again.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: It's like they could finish. They'll finish ten and two
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: and they'll just be sitting there Prime College Football Playoff conversation.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: And IF yeah for CF because you got IF. You're
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: gonna have Oregon, Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan in there, and
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: the and the Big Ten and the SEC. You're gonna
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: have A and M, Alabama, Georgia, oh miss.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: Is there any more that I need to be thinking of?
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma's currently ranked twelve?
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're currently ranked twelve, I must this is
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: me assuming they dropped to Alabama, So that would be
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: the four right there. So that's a ACC is gonna
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: get one. So now it's nine like G five, G five,
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: And then you're gonna have two spots for the Big
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: twelve lost Memphis lost.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: You'll have one. You'll have one the Big Twelve championship.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: The Big Twelve champion will get in. Then it'll be
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: like one one other.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 7: Well, here here's the here's a situation.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame will be in. So that's if Big ten
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: and SEC get four in, which I don't think will happen.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 7: What if like since he beats b y U and
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 7: then since he beats Texas Tech in the Big twelve championship, Dude,
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 7: Like I feel like both though obviously Cincinnati will get
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 7: an automatic berth Like, you're not gonna leave Texas Tech out?
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 4: No?
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't disagree with that.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: And who was saying that the committee the committee keeps
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: keeps the championship like, doesn't put a lot of weight
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: in the championship games?
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 3: Corrects?
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: Right, you get the automatical if somebody guess their breaks
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: blown off, I think that they could. If you could,
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: if you yeah, if they are two loss teams, which
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: the only game.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: I see that happening is possibly Indian Oha State.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: But Indiana is undefeated and they still get in. Yeah,
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: if they're one lost team, they that's where it's like
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: they won't get punished for getting blown out in the
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: Big Ten championships here. Excellent, all right, that is our
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: college football talk. Hey, hell of a week, Locker over week,
• 2:05:02
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• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: boys will be coming out tomorrow with Kay Adams and
• 2:05:06
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• 2:05:09
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