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- 1:38In tonight's episode, we Are continuing our offensive theme in tying in with last
- 1:44week's episode here on the show, last week we dove into what do you
- 1:49expect from the Buffalo Bills offense in twenty twenty three. This episode, we
- 1:53are going to dive into the biggest questions facing the Buffalo Bills offense in twenty
- 1:57twenty three. Some of that could be players specific, it could be position
- 2:01groups specific. It could be schematic, it could be excess and always based,
- 2:06it could be niche based. I think these episodes are fun to do,
- 2:09especially now when we're in the dead times here of the offseason, the
- 2:15dull drums a bit where things are just slow and you know, kind of
- 2:17waiting for OTAs to start, mini camps to start, and things to really
- 2:23start to get reven up towards the season for training camp of preseason and all
- 2:25that kind of stuff. So once we start to get into those episodes,
- 2:29you're diving into the specifics of those moments and all those pieces. So again,
- 2:32this episode, like we've talked about these past several weeks, continuing to
- 2:37set the table and set the foundation for what we're going to be talking about
- 2:39going forward, and as we analyze things fully and in depth. As practices
- 2:44and training camp rolls around, and then preseason and the season rolls around,
- 2:47it's good to have these episodes again that set the foundation and set the tone
- 2:52to kind of bring things back together and tie it all together. So that's
- 2:53the focus on tonight's episode, you know, presenting these questions for the Buffalo
- 2:58Bill's offense in twenty twenty three. That could change potentially as we go forward,
- 3:00but right now look be pretty set from a standard amount and again could
- 3:06be players specific, position groups specific. I had several that I've had in
- 3:10my head, and as I started to dive into the metrics and the tape,
- 3:15some more came to mind. U I tweeted about some of them today.
- 3:20I'm going to dive full speed ahead into them. Dis dive full speed
- 3:24ahead. That's not the proper usage of that phrase, but who cares,
- 3:27I guess. Let up some comments. John. I think you're pretty much
- 3:30here every week, and I appreciate the hell idea. John says, my
- 3:31wife loves your Memorial Day tree and Snoopy ditto here. I appreciate you folks
- 3:38in John and your household. When I say folks, I mean you and
- 3:40your wife. We do we got the Memorial Day Snoopy rocking up there.
- 3:44We got some Memorial Day garland on the little tree. Very excited, very
- 3:47excited, New thanks says, what's good? Pro ant, what's good?
- 3:52Welcome, Welcome, welcome r J in the building. Roy saying that tree
- 3:55looks like fireworks are going off. That's we're trying to create here. Somebody
- 4:00said last year, once we were in July, someone said something about putting
- 4:06like phosphorus lights or something on the tree that would simulate fireworks in some kind
- 4:14of peace. If that's a thing and people know that, send me a
- 4:18link for those lights, because I'd like to make it look as fireworky as
- 4:21possible. Come for the July time. But Roy, like, I like
- 4:26where your head was at. Oh oh oh, this is a awesome question.
- 4:30If I'm reading this fast, new Oh, I'm guessing no thanks or
- 4:33new thanks, No thanks says If your life was on the line and you
- 4:38had to take four players to put on the bills to win the Super Bowl,
- 4:42what four are you taking? Is this four players in the NFL right
- 4:46now or four players all time? Because this is a big This is like
- 4:50a legitimately like tough question. If it's four players right now. I could
- 4:55probably answer that easier, but four players all time might be really interesting and
- 4:59fun. I need to know before I can answer that question. We'll see,
- 5:02we'll see. Oh, right now, four players, four players in
- 5:06the NFL right now to put on the bills to win the Super Bowl?
- 5:10What four are you taking? Oh man, I'm taking Aaron Donald. I'm
- 5:16taking. This is also fun too, because you play this kind of game
- 5:20and it's like, do you try to hurt your opponent? Like do you
- 5:24want to take Patrick Mahomes because you're trying to, you know, hinder what
- 5:28the Chiefs can do. And so you just take Patrick Mahomes and sit him
- 5:30on the bench. And then it's like, oh, and then do you
- 5:33get to the super Bowl? But if we're in it, I'm taking Aaron
- 5:35Donald. I'm taking oh, either t J. Watt or Nick Bosa.
- 5:46Oh boy, this is super hard, man. I was not expecting this.
- 5:48I know, I'm taking Donald and either what or Bosa maybe cross we
- 5:53know what? Or Bosa Davante Adams. No, no, no, I'm
- 6:01taking Aaron Donald. I'm taking TJ. Watt. I'm taking Jamar Chase or
- 6:12Justin Jefferson. Oh boy, boy, wait, wait, wait, hold
- 6:16on, hold on, Now, I gotta get the rules. Here we
- 6:17got a backtrack. I'm gonna dive in the episode because now I gotta get
- 6:19the rules. You're saying I don't trust TJ or Bosa for a season.
- 6:25Wait, so is it the season or I just need to win this one
- 6:28game? If this is season long, I have to have a bigger conversation
- 6:31this is this is a bigger piece because then I'm also probably taking a right
- 6:34tackle as well. Man, that's an interesting question. Pose it, pose
- 6:39it? Give me the rules, lay it out, lay it out in
- 6:43the chat? Am I am I doing it for the season? Is it
- 6:45just for one game? Is it just for the playoffs? Lay off the
- 6:46rules for me in the chat. I will answer this question probably next week.
- 6:50I will lead off the episode next week with it because I like it.
- 6:53I like it. I like it. Oh, Sarah says, I'm
- 6:59stacking offense all Oh. Pete comes in and says Aaron Donald, Lane Johnson,
- 7:01Jamar, Chase, t J. Watt, I might rock with that.
- 7:04Foresome, that's pretty good. Foresome it is very good. Yeah,
- 7:08And as John says, a good question is a very good question. I
- 7:10appreciate you r J shouting out the tree. All right, folks, let's
- 7:14man that a question through me for a loop. I really like it,
- 7:16but yeah, no, thanks quite break that down in the chat. What
- 7:20are the parameters for which I have to pick my four players? And I'm
- 7:26gonna base it off of that. I like it. I like it a
- 7:27lot. Oh, he says, My bad, My bad, I'm talking
- 7:31your Brandon Bean, your Brandon Bean's genie for this season. Don't be a
- 7:36weenie and take key reas from other teams. Fair, Okay, so I
- 7:40can pick from the season. I'm going to start this question. I'm gonna
- 7:44lead off. I'm either gonna no, I don't think. I'm gonna an
- 7:46excited. I really want to give this some thought. I'm gonna lead off
- 7:47next week's episode with it, or put it on Twitter or both. I
- 7:49really like that. That was a really good question. Oh I like that
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- 8:33the episode. What I want to do also for this episode, you folks
- 8:37know how we do here on the show, especially when I'm riding solo.
- 8:41Love the engagement, Love the back and forth in the chat with each other.
- 8:43With myself, I want to know what your biggest questions are for the
- 8:48Buffalo Bill's offense in twenty twenty three, and as I start to bring mine
- 8:52up, I've got several. If you agree with it, cool, If
- 8:54you disagree with it, cool, let me know in the chat why yes
- 8:58or no. If you have your own put into the chat, I will
- 9:01bring up everything as accordingly as I can bring some stuff up at the end.
- 9:05If it's not one of the things that I had have some engagement and
- 9:07some back and forth on this show. So again, whatever's on your mind,
- 9:11or it could be something related to anything else that's on your mind,
- 9:13throw it up into the chat and I will bring it up as physically possible
- 9:18as I can. Let's dive into it first. One first piece, This
- 9:22one should come as no surprise for those of you who watch the show regularly.
- 9:26This is I don't know how I really want to rank all of them.
- 9:28A lot of these tonight are like, collectively, these are my biggest
- 9:33questions, or what I think the biggest questions are. This first one,
- 9:35though, is my number one, without a doubt. Number one is Spencer
- 9:41Brown and the whole offensive line a little bit. As the banner says at
- 9:45the bottom, I don't want to continue to harp on this, even though
- 9:48I kind of am continuing to harp on it. Spencer Brown is a question
- 9:52mark for this Bill's offense in twenty twenty three, and he is a big
- 9:56question mark. Now. That's not to say because I want to pump the
- 10:01brakes here, because I know some people very strongly about this. This is
- 10:03not to say that Spencer Brown cannot or will not start to scratch that ceiling
- 10:09a little bit more in twenty twenty three, or that he won't take a
- 10:11jump towards being that player that people in vision that he could be with that
- 10:18perfect RAS score and the athleticism and the ceiling and the raw potential and all
- 10:22those pieces. Right, that's not to say that, you know, me
- 10:26having questions about him doesn't mean that he can't kind of be the prince that
- 10:31was promised at right tackle. And yes, as I've said before on the
- 10:35show, I understand all the injury pieces last year, the injuries and the
- 10:39off season, the injuries throughout training camp, His practice reps were affected,
- 10:43his preseason reps were affected. Just his ability to get in rhythm and get
- 10:46into lockstep with the rest of the offensive line was significantly impacted and hindered throughout
- 10:52the entire off season, into the preseason and then going into the regular season.
- 10:56Then he was banged up in the regular season as well. Yes,
- 11:00I know that impacted his play last year. Very understandable, very acceptable.
- 11:05But at the end of the day, right now, Spencer Brown is a
- 11:09question mark and even if you think, you know what I think, now
- 11:13that he's healthy, he's going to have a really good season. That's fair,
- 11:18that's fantastic. You're basing that on hope, and you're basing that on
- 11:22optimism, because there's the other side of the coin that I feel like he's
- 11:26getting talked about, where the thought is, yeah, you know, if
- 11:30he hadn't have been hurt, if he hadn't have been hurt, we have
- 11:33no idea what he would have looked like last year had he not been hurt.
- 11:37Because even if you say, oh, if he had been healthy,
- 11:39Okay, if he had been healthy, what would he have been Because in
- 11:41his rookie year he was a roller coaster as well. So it's not like
- 11:45you can say, yeah, but if he had been healthy, he would
- 11:46have been back to that great rookie year performance because his rookie year was a
- 11:50roller coaster. Last year was a roller coaster in part again because of those
- 11:54injuries. And I've continued to say it him being a roller coaster is acceptable
- 11:58given where he's coming, where he's come from eight man football in high school,
- 12:03went to the University of Northern Iowa, opted out in the COVID year
- 12:05all these pieces I've talked about. He wasn't going up against pro ready talent
- 12:09in college. He doesn't have a ton of experience. He's a very raw
- 12:13player. He's a toolsy guy, he's a traitsy guy. He's a physically
- 12:16impressive dude at right tackle, but he needed a lot of time on task
- 12:20to refine his game, refine his technique mentally as well as physically. This
- 12:26is a person who is learning to play right tackle on the fly, on
- 12:33the job in the NFL. That's a super, super super hard thing to
- 12:37do. So I think it's very understandable why he has struggled again the injuries,
- 12:43the combination of the injuries plus him being raw and being more of a
- 12:46project, it's all very understandable. But at the end of the day,
- 12:50no matter how you slice it, he has a question mark for twenty twenty
- 12:52three. And if you believe that he will reduce the ebbs and flows of
- 12:58his game and he will get off that roller coaster and he'll reduce the valleys
- 13:03that go with the peaks, that's awesome. But you're basing that on hope,
- 13:05because what we've seen is a player that has been like I continue to
- 13:09say, very mercurial in his performance, especially from a past protection standpoint.
- 13:13So per PF, they have a lot of good advanced metrics for offensive line
- 13:20stuff. So per PF, the percentage of pressures by the defense that were
- 13:26charged to offensive line positions on Josh Allen dropbacks. This was out of fifty
- 13:31qualifying quarterbacks the Bills at right tackle, Now, this is some Spencer Brown,
- 13:37some David Questenberry. The Bills were tied for eighth from their right tackle
- 13:41position at twenty seven point five percent of pressures coming from that right tackle spot.
- 13:46No other spot on the Bills offensive line had a higher percent of pressures
- 13:50by the defense charge of that spot than eighteen point three percent. So left
- 13:54tackle, left guard, center, right guard. None of those spots on
- 14:00the Bill's offensive line had that pressure rate higher than eighteen point three percent,
- 14:03But at right tackle it was twenty seven point five percent. For as much
- 14:07as Roger Saffold was awful, For as bad as Roger Saffold was at times,
- 14:13right wasn't worse than that right tackle spot. He kind of held it
- 14:16down more in pass protection from that metric standpoint than the right tackle spot did.
- 14:20Now, grant it again, that's not all Spencer Brown. Some of
- 14:22that is David Westonbury as well. So let's focus a little more on Spencer
- 14:26Brown. So that metric was per PF. His next one is per Sports
- 14:31Info Solutions. There were one hundred and fifty nine players with at least five
- 14:35hundred blocking snaps in twenty twenty two one hundred and fifty nine. Spencer Brown
- 14:41had the eleventh highest blown block percentage in pass protection at five point one percent,
- 14:46So out of one hundred and fifty nine players with at least five hundred
- 14:50blocking snaps, he had the eleventh highest blown block percentage in pass protection.
- 14:54But on the flip side, he was tied for the twenty fourth lowest blown
- 14:58block percentag on rum blocks at one point one percent. That also tracks with
- 15:03the tape a lot. You look at a guy in pass protection who his
- 15:07feet and his hands aren't necessarily working in sync his punch timing, his punch
- 15:11placement. The mental side in terms of him reading stunts and reading games and
- 15:16reading blitzes, all the technical side of things mentally and physically weren't always connecting
- 15:20for him in pass protection and you would see those struggles. But in the
- 15:24run game, I don't know if it's because he's thinking lesser because the assignments
- 15:28are simpler or maybe potentially easier for him. But in the run game,
- 15:33you see the strength, you see the athleticism, you see the speed,
- 15:37you see the quickness, you see the physicality he is. He's I don't
- 15:41know if I want to say a strong rum blocker. I don't mean that
- 15:45physically. I just mean like over on his game. But he's a good
- 15:46run blocker on that right side. You get him out in space, you
- 15:50pull him on those tackle rap in those dark plays. You want to use
- 15:54him to get some double teams and create some displacement and gold field, you
- 15:58want him to climb to the second level. He's really impressive. You really
- 16:02see that athleticism show up with what the Bills have asked him to do in
- 16:06the run game. And he's a solid run blocker, that's fine. But
- 16:08when it comes to pass protection, like I showed in those first two metrics,
- 16:12they're very shaky. Now let's go back to PFF. Let's use another
- 16:17metric. Out of eighty six qualifying offensive tackles in twenty twenty two, so
- 16:22eighty six offensive tackles Spencer Brown was sixty ninth in past blocking efficiency at a
- 16:30score of ninety two point five. Tristan Worfs was first in that category.
- 16:36He had a fantastic year last year. For reference, Deon Dawkins was thirty
- 16:40first in past blocking efficiency with a score of ninety seven. So Spencer Brown
- 16:44was sixty ninth at a score of ninety two point five. Dion Dawkins was
- 16:48thirty first at ninety seven point zero. Worst was first at ninety seven or
- 16:52ninety nine point one. So Dean Dawkins, who had somewhat of a down
- 16:57year last year and a bit of an inconc assistant year, it was thirty
- 17:02first out of eighty six qualifying tackles, So down year, kind of middle
- 17:07of the pack, maybe even a little higher the middle of the pack above
- 17:10average cool, so his down year was above average. Spencer Brown's year sixty
- 17:15nine out of those eighty six qualifying offensive tackles not great. If you take
- 17:19that further and you look at true pass sets, something I've talked about on
- 17:22the show before. So true pass sets are plays that exclude plays with less
- 17:27than four rushers, exclude play action, they exclude screens, they exclude short
- 17:32dropbacks, and time to throw under two seconds, So you're kind of eliminating
- 17:37those plays or those reps where you know not to use the verbiage, but
- 17:42like, you're not getting a true pass set. You're not getting a true
- 17:45opportunity for the rusher to beat you, or whether it's the design of the
- 17:48play or the timing isn't right, or there's something that's kind of muddying the
- 17:52waters for the defensive player. A true pass set is more of a measure
- 17:56of you're in a real rush situation with plenty of time. It's a true
- 18:00drop back. You're on this guy, let's see what happens. So in
- 18:03true pass sets again, out of those eighty six qualifying offensive tackles, Spencer
- 18:08Brown was once again sixty ninth in his pass blocking efficiency, Tristan Works was
- 18:14first again, Dion Dawkins was twenty fourth. So in a down year for
- 18:17Dion Dawkins overall and pass blocking efficiency, he was thirty first out of eighty
- 18:22six qualifying tackles, and then in true pass sets he was twenty fourth out
- 18:26of those eighty six qualifying tackles. Spencer Brown was sixty ninth in both,
- 18:30and then again if you look from a volume standpoint. I've said it on
- 18:33the show before. Spencer Brown was tied for the fifth most pressures given up
- 18:37last year for all offensive tackles. So if you're looking at it from a
- 18:41percentage standpoint, from an advanced metric standpoint, from a tape standpoint, from
- 18:47a volume standpoint, not great. Oh you go here, question here from
- 18:52Jessica. Jessica, thank thank you, well, thank you very much for
- 18:55being here, and thank you for the super chat. Jessica says, aunt,
- 18:56how long was the old line asked to hold their blocks? Oh,
- 19:02this is a very good question, Jessica, And let me go look that
- 19:07up, because Josh j Allen did hold onto the ball last year more than
- 19:12normal. Some of it was the play calls, some of it was Allen,
- 19:17some of it sometimes was the protection. But let's see if I go
- 19:21here and look up time to throw. So Josh Allen's average time to throw
- 19:27last year was two point eight seven seconds and that was the one two,
- 19:33three, six, seven eight twelve. That was the fourteenth highest for quarterbacks
- 19:41last year. But it is decently on the high side. If you're getting
- 19:44around three seconds, that's pretty high. So fair credit to the offensive line.
- 19:49They were asked to hold their blocks for a little longer at times,
- 19:52but very good questions, very good questions. So, on average, Josh
- 19:55Allen's time to throw last year was two point eight seven seconds. Usually,
- 20:00if you're getting the ball out around two point five, that's fast, that's
- 20:03quick. If you're getting the ball out around three or longer's that's a long
- 20:10time. That's a lot to ask sometimes of offensive lineman. Very good question,
- 20:14Very good question, Jessica. I liked that a lot. Oh.
- 20:17I like this comment here from John saying Brown demolishes folks in space. It's
- 20:21actually hilarious. He actually does, like he really really mauls dudes in the
- 20:26run game, especially in space. And again it's not just like guys that
- 20:30are smaller than him, like nickel corners or safeties or outside corners. Like
- 20:33it can be linebackers, it can be edges, it can be into your
- 20:36defensive lineman. Like when he gets on the move, he gets that speed
- 20:38generating and you have that again, you have the speed plus the size,
- 20:41plus the frame plus the strength. It's impressive. No, thank says well,
- 20:48staff would really that bad? Or is he just our scapegoat? He
- 20:49was like thirty five in a last minute signing. Bean has just been ignoring
- 20:52the old line and have finally caught up. He was bad last year.
- 21:00He was bad from a metric standpoint and from a film standpoint. To your
- 21:04point, though, I do think it was I just I just think he
- 21:07had a lot of miles on the tires. Like this was a dude you
- 21:11put there, like, yeah, he was thirty five, Like he's into
- 21:12his early to mid thirties. There. He's been playing in the NFL a
- 21:15long time, but he just didn't have the foot speed and the lateral agility
- 21:21to hold up in the pass game with regularity. You saw some good reps
- 21:23from him in the run. You saw him kind of road grade some dudes
- 21:27when he would pull or get to the second level. He even had a
- 21:30couple of nice reps in space against against the Chicago Bears later in the year.
- 21:34But you saw teams, I mean Cincinnati did in the playoffs. You
- 21:37saw a team start to game him up and use front alignments that would put
- 21:44speed rushers or quick guys lined up over him, and then use that to
- 21:48take advantage of what he had going on or what he didn't have going on
- 21:55from a quickness standpoint. From agility standpoint, like you'd watch him, he'd
- 22:00be able to pick up a game or a stunt, but he just physically
- 22:03didn't have the ability to get there. And that was one of my biggest
- 22:07concerns last year when we signed him. I was excited for a more physical
- 22:11presence in the run game. My biggest question when he signed was how would
- 22:15he hold up in past protection from an athleticism and quickness standpoint, and we
- 22:19saw that kind of rear its Ugly had a bit at times, So I
- 22:22don't think he was a scapegoat. He did have a bad year despite the
- 22:26fact that he made the Pro Bowl, and I will say the bad reps
- 22:30that he had, because he had some really, really really bad reps,
- 22:36I think those overshadow everything and make it seem like he was worse than he
- 22:40was, because he wasn't just completely atrocious, but he wasn't great. I
- 22:45would put him at probably like at best, like a C plus or a
- 22:48C last year overall, but he had moments. We had some moments where
- 22:52he was a B minus and you were like, oh, okay, but
- 22:55then he had a bunch and more on the negative end where it was like
- 22:59a d or a f and just he was a vulnerability. Good question,
- 23:03good question. Oh, this is a good one here from John says Ryan
- 23:07Bates allowed only one sack in twenty twenty two Aaron Donald in his first game.
- 23:11If I recall, don't go by sacks if you are using that as
- 23:18like a metric to judge how good an offensive lineman is doing. So for
- 23:22example, that right there, right And I love this comment from you,
- 23:25John, because I think I put some things in a perspective. That game
- 23:29against the Rams, Ryan Bates got beat a bunch by Aaron Donald, but
- 23:33the Bills did a great job back game from Ken Dorsey, having a lot
- 23:37of quick passes and a lot of quick game schemed up and gamed up because
- 23:41they knew the Rams were going to be playing off and they wanted to neutralize
- 23:44Aaron Donald. So Donald would beat Bates, but Alan would get the ball
- 23:48out and it wouldn't matter, or Alan would maneuver and move around and nullify
- 23:52that rush from Donald. So don't use sacks given up as a way to
- 23:57judge how good of a season offensive lineman. I say the same thing for
- 24:02Osiris Torrance coming out of Florida, who I like but I saw in draft
- 24:06night everybody's thrown up that stat of you know, no sacks allowed in twenty
- 24:11twenty two, he's going to be a stud what an amazing pass protector.
- 24:14And I'm not saying he can't be that or he won't be that, but
- 24:18he had reps where he got beat and there's reps where you know, speed
- 24:21rushers give him problems. But if you're just looking at the statue like,
- 24:22well, he didn't give him up a sack, that's amazing. Don't go
- 24:26by sacks in terms of judging someone completely. Yes, it's nice that he
- 24:30didn't give up one, but there's a multitude of pieces they're going and not
- 24:33giving up a sack, especially for the Buffalo Bills having Josh Allen, who
- 24:37is the equalizer and a racer for a lot of the protection problems up front
- 24:41for their offensive line. But good comment there, John, Oh, I
- 24:44see another super chat. I gotta stop seventy eight maximillion. I appreciate you
- 24:51being here and thank you very much for the super chat. Oh. I
- 24:52like this treaty shout out time and my eyes keep getting drawn to it.
- 24:57I like it. I like it. Then the question on the back end
- 25:00Oh, how long do you think Brown's leash is this year if play doesn't
- 25:04improve. That's a really good question, and I think it's decently long,
- 25:11because who's going to replace him? That was part of the reason why I
- 25:15wanted an offensive tackle drafted preferably early in this past NFL draft, because even
- 25:22if Spencer Brown works out, like, say, it's Brown and Dawkins.
- 25:25After Brown and Dawkins, it's David Questenberry, and I guess Tommy Doyle.
- 25:30There were some rumblings that Tommy Doyle was going to kick into guard, but
- 25:33once they got David Edwards and then they drafted o Cyrus Torrance and then they
- 25:37drafted Nick Broker. Or are they going to kick Doyle into guards? So
- 25:40he's the tackle there? What do you have at tackle? Like? So,
- 25:42if Spencer Brown doesn't work out, no disrespect for David Questenberry, but
- 25:48or to David Questenberry, but I don't think he has the juice in the
- 25:52tank to be at right tackle. And I just think about him. I'd
- 25:55say it all the time. I picture him getting burned around the arc by
- 25:57Bryce Huff in New York against the Jets, and then Huff hitting Allan's elbow,
- 26:02and that's how we got that Allen elbow injury. I think if they
- 26:07had a again, no disrespect to David question Burry, I think if they
- 26:08had a more competent or qualified backup, Brown's lease would be a bit shorter,
- 26:15leash would be a bit shorter. That being said, I do think
- 26:18McDermot and being like him, I do think Chromer believes in him. So
- 26:23I think he's gonna get some burn just off of that. And then because
- 26:27there's really no one like sitting behind him, like there's not somebody who if
- 26:32you're like, you know, if this guy's not cutting it, let's put
- 26:33in this this good swing tack we have. Let's bring in this person off
- 26:40the bench we had. There's no like what the Cowboys had where it was
- 26:42like, oh, you know, cool, like let's bring in Jason Peters.
- 26:45Like the Bills don't have that guy I tackle on the roster right now.
- 26:48So I've been between the Bills staff believing in him and they're being really
- 26:52nobody on the bench to replace him. I think he's got a pretty long
- 26:56leash. I think them also not drafting anybody or making a move for that
- 27:02spot, and free agency again, they address the offensive line on the interior.
- 27:04In free agency, they didn't really do anything for the tackles except bring
- 27:10David Questenbury back. So that to me indicates that they are locked and loaded
- 27:14in terms of fully believing in Spencer Brown and they're going to ride or die
- 27:18with him. And that's actually a really good question what ties into my point
- 27:21here of why Spencer Brown is my biggest question and the offensive line a little
- 27:26bit, which I'm going to get into in a minute here, But why
- 27:29Spencer Brown is the biggest question for me because it ties into that question of
- 27:32how long his leashes. I think he's their ride or die at right tackle,
- 27:36Like if he swims cool, if he sinks, cool, like he's
- 27:40going to be at right tackle, and if he sinks or that mercurial play
- 27:44continues and we're still on that roller coaster. That's a big vulnerability, especially
- 27:49for a team that wants to be a pass first offense that is led by
- 27:52a very good quarterback in a good passing game. If you can't protect upfront,
- 27:57your offense is kind of in neutral. If you will. If you
- 28:00are that much of a vulnerability or deficiency, teams can pinpoint it, especially
- 28:06in today's NFL, where teams have usually one and a half or two good
- 28:11edge rushers, and even if they only have one and a half or they
- 28:14just have one, that one guy is able to move around on both sides,
- 28:18like what von Miller can do, or what what can do or Garrett
- 28:22can do or Bosa can do, like all of these guys who they can
- 28:26just be like, Oh, who's your weakest tackle. It's your left tackle.
- 28:29Cool, that's where you're lining up this game. Oh your weakest tackles,
- 28:30you're right tackle. Cool, that's where you're lining up this game.
- 28:34And they can game you up and attack you and scheme you up. We
- 28:37saw the Bengals do it in the playoffs with what Louan and Rumma was doing
- 28:40with his simulated pressures and creeper pressures in blitz game like to confuse Brown mentally
- 28:45and attack him. So I do think because he has a long leash and
- 28:49because this coaching staff believes in him, if that faith goes unrewarded, it's
- 28:53a problem because then what are you doing at right tackle. That's another reason
- 28:57why it's a big question for me if Spencer Brown is not the answer at
- 29:02right tackle for you in twenty twenty three, then who is the answer?
- 29:07Is it David Questenberry? Is it Tommy Doyle? Is it? If Osires
- 29:11Torrance beats out Ryan Bates at right tackle? Is it Ryan Bates who's played
- 29:15some tackle at Penn State. I don't think that's ideal given his body composition,
- 29:19in frame and skill set. But is that the lesser of all the
- 29:22other evils If Spencer Brown doesn't work out, If Spencer Brown isn't the answer
- 29:27at right tackle like the Bills believe he can be, which I think that's
- 29:32where we are right now, it creates it opens up Pandora's box in terms
- 29:37of questions, and it's all questions that you don't want to answer. That's
- 29:38part of the reason why I think Brown is so important because you need him
- 29:44to be good because he's going to be the starter and you can't have that
- 29:48vulnerability and deficiency and past protection on the offensive line like he has been in
- 29:52previous years. But also because if he doesn't work out, I don't know
- 29:55who's answering that bell from bench, like they don't necessarily have a better option
- 30:00where it's like, all right, cool, this other guy isn't sexy,
- 30:02but he gives you a high floor. Questenburry, I think is just as
- 30:06much of a roller coaster because where he is physically in his career, with
- 30:10how much miles he has on the tires or how many miles he has on
- 30:12the tires. Pete says, Aunt gave out all those awful stats from us
- 30:19at right tackle, and the team decided they wanted to run the same guys
- 30:22back again. Yep, yep, eighth eighth most percentage of pressures charged to
- 30:32right tackle in the entire NFL last year. So again that's your Questenburry and
- 30:37your Spencer Brown spot, and no other spot on the Bills old line had
- 30:40higher than eighteen point three. So, for all intents and purposes, right
- 30:44tackle was a bit of a weakness. It kind of understated a little bit,
- 30:48or undersell it. Right tackle was a weakness on this Bills offensive line.
- 30:51And the Buffalo Bills ran back their starter and their number one depth guy
- 30:56in Spencer Brown and David Questionburry, so fingers crossed that that'll get better the
- 31:02other piece that I have here, and then I put in privacies there talking
- 31:06about the offensive line or the whole offensive line a little bit. I think
- 31:10it's fair to have a question about what the guards are going to look like
- 31:14this year. You know how much of an upgrade is Connor McGovern. They're
- 31:18splashiest free agent signing, at least from a monetary perspective. You know how
- 31:22much of an upgrade is Connor mcgovernment left guard over Roger Staffold. For me,
- 31:26I don't think it has to be a ton. He doesn't have to
- 31:29be an all pro, he doesn't have to be a stud. Like I
- 31:30said, I think for the majority of the year Roger Staffold was that like
- 31:33a D or a C plus or a C. I think Connor McGovern can
- 31:38realistically and regularly be anywhere from a B minus to a B and I think
- 31:42that's an upgrade. It may not be the sexiest upgrade, it may not
- 31:45be you know, newsworthy or noteworthy, but if you're going from a D
- 31:48to a B minus, or you're going from a C minus to a B
- 31:52minus, that's a full letter grade, like you're raising the floor. I
- 31:56also do think McGovern will do well given his athletic profile and the kind of
- 32:00offense the Bills have run. But again it's still a question because we haven't
- 32:02seen him function within this team and on this roster and in this system necessarily
- 32:07this exact system anyway. And then you have the right guard piece as well.
- 32:10We touched on it last week. I'm not gonna dive too much into
- 32:14it again, but is Ryan Bates starting at right guard? If not,
- 32:17is it Osirius Torrance? Okay? If it's Osyrius Torrence. Now you've got
- 32:21a rookie, a rookie right guard next to a third year right tackle who's
- 32:25been very up and down in his play, who's been very mercurial in his
- 32:29play. Does that start to affect Torrance? How much does that help Spencer
- 32:32Brown? Would you rather pair Spencer Brown with a vet? Like, all
- 32:37these pieces start to kind of align in certain ways and create some questions for
- 32:42you. That's where my number one question is for this Buffalo Bills offense.
- 32:45It starts with the offensive line. It's seventy percent Spencer Brown, thirty percent
- 32:50the rest of the offensive line. In terms of how it aligns and how
- 32:52it fits together, I'm more confident in the rest of the group. Like
- 32:57I'm pretty confident in McGovern. I like Ian Bates, and I like Torrance
- 33:00as well. So I think from left tackle through right guard. This is
- 33:05a group. That's fine. I'd love it to be you know, a
- 33:08group that has one or two All pros on it, or guys towards the
- 33:12top of their field. But it's fine. Then I think the Bills just
- 33:15need to be a top half of the league offensive line. That's it.
- 33:19Just give me a fifteen fourteen thirteen in terms of your offensive line ranking.
- 33:22Reduce all the ebbs and flows, reduce that roller coaster with the with the
- 33:28sudden valleys to go with the peaks, and a lot of that for me,
- 33:30is going to be tied to, you know, the new guys,
- 33:34if it's McGovern and Torrance or just McGovern, But I think that'll be okay.
- 33:37But Spencer Brown is that question mark on that right tackle spot. And
- 33:43you know, being vulnerable at one offensive line spot is better than being vulnerable
- 33:45at two like the Bills were last year at right tackle and left guard.
- 33:49But if being vulnerable at one to that level is a bad thing, and
- 33:54it's my number one question and will continue to be until I see a significant
- 33:58sample side showing that he can kind of make that happen, which is nervous,
- 34:04which makes me nervous. I should say as Sarah says, Yeah,
- 34:07our offensive tackle depth concerns me. I think Brown will bounce back, but
- 34:12he does have availability issues. That's also a piece two. Right, he's
- 34:15at injuries in back to back years. Is he an injury concerned guy?
- 34:17Can he stay healthy? If he stays healthy, what does he look like
- 34:22at this point? But then just getting there? Can he stay healthy?
- 34:25So that's a fair point as well. I do like some of the come
- 34:30and see and I see folks talking about we have lots of guards and draft
- 34:32capital. I do think maybe one of those guys get flipped if somebody works
- 34:38out, So we'll see what happens that at that spot. I do think
- 34:43the interior offensive line is better from a pass protection standpoint, the interior of
- 34:46the pocket, the depth of the pocket will hold a little bit better.
- 34:50He got guys who can anchor, you have athleticism, You've got some functional
- 34:53strength. Not necessarily people movers, unless you're talking about Cyrus Torrance. Will
- 34:58see if he wins the job, but think if he if the interior of
- 35:02the offensive line can be solid, that helps a bit cover, That helps
- 35:06cover up a bit for the deficiencies with Spencer Browner right tackle, but again,
- 35:09that's still a question because we don't necessarily know we'll see fingers crossed,
- 35:14fingers crossed. I'm a little nervous about it, as I've talked about next
- 35:19piece here but also tweets today about this. So the next question I have
- 35:23for the Buffalo Bill's offense is Josh Allen, Ken Dorsey and the red zone
- 35:28offense. So both of those pieces, the Ken Dorsey piece, the Josh
- 35:31Allen piece, tied into the red zone offense. Bills had some struggles in
- 35:37the red zone in twenty twenty two, and there's a multitude of reasons for
- 35:39it. I don't want to necessarily boil it down to only two or three
- 35:43and make it seem like these are the only ones. But I'm gonna I'm
- 35:45gonna I'm gonna hone in or focus in on a couple here. But again,
- 35:50like I said, there's a multitude of reasons for the red zone struggles
- 35:52in twenty twenty two for the Bills, especially compared to twenty twenty one.
- 35:55Some of it is Josh Allen's decision making. Some of it is played design
- 36:00and play calls from Ken Dorsey, especially early on in the season, where
- 36:04he had like Dawson Knock, staying in the block. Some of it is
- 36:07a lack of separation from the pass catchers, some of it is inconsistent blocking,
- 36:12some of it is drops. The Bills were sixth in Red Zone drops
- 36:15last year with five, but again, I wanted to focus on a specific
- 36:19piece that I found interesting also in going down the rabbit hole a little bit
- 36:22in preparation for this episode and going into this Red Zone piece, I might
- 36:25end up doing a full episode on the Red Zone struggles, maybe with some
- 36:30film as well, to really dive into it fully because I think there's a
- 36:35lot to unpack, but to kind of hit it off with a high level
- 36:38piece here, free folks. In this episode, let's I want to compare
- 36:44the twenty twenty one numbers the twenty twenty two number. So in twenty twenty
- 36:46one Bills. Red Zone DVOA SO DVA again is an efficiency metric. It
- 36:52corrects for quality of opponent you play and basically balances everything out and puts out
- 37:00where you are from an efficiency standpoint in a multitude of areas on par with
- 37:06your peers. It removes variables or tries to reduce them or mitigate them as
- 37:09much as possible, so it's more of a well rounded metric in terms of
- 37:13stacking you up against your other piers in the league. So in twenty twenty
- 37:15one, the Bills were fourth in red zone v AWAY, twelfth in the
- 37:19pass, fourth in the run. In twenty twenty two they dropped from fourth
- 37:24overall to twenty fifth overall. The pass went from twelfth and twenty twenty one
- 37:29to eighteenth in twenty twenty two, and the run game was the biggest drop.
- 37:34The red zone dv AWAY in twenty twenty one was fourth again. Like
- 37:37I mentioned, the red zone rush DVOWA in twenty twenty two was twenty seventh,
- 37:42so a twenty three spot drop. And if you look at the quarterback
- 37:47and running back runs, so again, runs and rushes by quarterbacks and running
- 37:52backs in twenty twenty one, the Bills were eighth in EPA per attempt on
- 37:57those runs. But if you focus just on the running backs, they were
- 38:00twentieth in EPA in twenty twenty one. If you go in twenty twenty two
- 38:05running backs and quarterbacks combined, they were twenty first in EPA, so a
- 38:08thirteen spot dropped versus twenty twenty one. But just for running backs, they
- 38:15were twenty second in EPA, so a two spot drop from the running back
- 38:20stats in twenty twenty one. In the red zone from an advanced metric standpoint,
- 38:24also if you want to go into a two in twenty twenty one,
- 38:27they used more play action and more RPOs in the red zone. The Bills
- 38:30were third in play action in the red zone in twenty twenty one with a
- 38:34twenty one percent play action rate and they ran They ran play action fifty one
- 38:37times. They also had a twenty one percent RPO rate, which was fourth,
- 38:42and they had fifty RPOs in the red zone versus twenty twenty two where
- 38:45they ran play action eighteen percent of the time, so a three percentage point
- 38:50dropped, which was ninth but only thirty three plays, which was an eighteen
- 38:52play difference. And then RPOs. They went from again to twenty one percent
- 38:57RPO rate in twenty twenty one to an eleven percent RPO rate in twenty twenty
- 39:00two, so a ten percentage point drop making them go from fourth in twenty
- 39:06twenty one to fifteenth in twenty twenty two, and a big play discrepancy.
- 39:09Fifty RPOs in the red zone in twenty twenty one nineteen RPOs only in twenty
- 39:15twenty two. So putting all these numbers together, like I talked about,
- 39:20we got the QB runs EPA per attempt QB plus running back runs EPA per
- 39:24attempt in twenty twenty one in twenty twenty two thirteen spot difference, but a
- 39:30big change in number, whereas the running back numbers just running backs alone non
- 39:34including quarterback runs. The drop wasn't too much. So if you notice against
- 39:39tough to notice as I'm reading it, I should have made a graphic for
- 39:42it. I just thought of that now that was stupid. So if you
- 39:44connect the dots, if you look at the quarterback running back EPA difference,
- 39:52that was a big change, because if you just look at the running back
- 39:53EPA per attempt, it didn't differ too much. Again, they went from
- 39:59twentieth and twenty twenty one to twenty second in twenty twenty two, and they
- 40:01went from an EPA per attempt score of zero in twenty twenty one to negative
- 40:07zero point seven, so only a point zero seven change in score. Where
- 40:13the difference was was in the quarterback run department, and how that factored in
- 40:16and what we really saw was the intentional runs from the quarterback spot. So
- 40:22your design runs, your sneaks, your draws, your QB powers, the
- 40:28pin and pull with Josh Allen, all those pieces right again, like I
- 40:31mentioned, just tying in with that red zone piece on QB and running back
- 40:36runs combined, the Bills were eighth in EPA per attempt in twenty twenty one
- 40:39when they were fourth in rushing DVOA in the red zone versus twenty twenty two,
- 40:45they were twenty first in EPA per attempt where they were twenty seventh in
- 40:51rushing DVOA in the red zone. And their score in twenty twenty two when
- 40:54it dropped was negative zero point zero five versus twenty twenty one when it was
- 41:00a score of a positive score of point one three. So you had a
- 41:04point one eight drop, which is a big drop, and you went into
- 41:07the negative. Then you take that further. Oh, you gotta stop a
- 41:12question for Dom? What up? Dom? Dom's a good following on Twitter,
- 41:15even though he's a Jets person. He's a good dude and he knows
- 41:16ball. I appreciate you, Dom, and I appreciate you being here.
- 41:19Dom says, also, thank you for the super chat dom says Aunt can
- 41:23the deviation from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two in the red zone be
- 41:27attributed to switching from Dable to Dorsey partially especially early on. I didn't like
- 41:34and myself an air turner, did an episode for our Cover one premium subscribers
- 41:40midway through the year. I believe taking a look at the red zone pieces,
- 41:45the design from a red zone standpoint early on was not great. Even
- 41:49just take something as basic as you know Dawson Knox, who has some red
- 41:52zone threat to him because of his size, his athleticism, his speed in
- 41:57his frame, he was kept in more of a as a block early on
- 42:00in the season last year, Or you had a significant amount of plays,
- 42:05granted the sample size a smaller, but a significant amount of plays where you'd
- 42:07only have like three players going out into the route distribution and then the defense
- 42:13is sitting there only Russian four. So now they're dropping seven into coverage and
- 42:16you're only Russian three and there's nowhere for Josh Allen to go. So I
- 42:20think early on Dorsey's youth or an experience was showing up there a little bit
- 42:27in terms of what he was designing. But they got better as the year
- 42:30went along. From a design standpoint and from a play calling standpoint, I
- 42:34think a big piece that factored into it, honestly was Josh Allen's decision making.
- 42:38Now, it's a bit of it, and I said this on Twitter
- 42:40earlier today. It's a bit of a chicken and egg scenario because you can
- 42:44say that, well, maybe Josh Allen's decision making wasn't great because of the
- 42:49play call in the play design, and maybe he was pressing a little too
- 42:52much because he didn't have any easy buttons or any answers given to him from
- 42:55Ken Dorsey. So it's a bit of a chicken and egg piece. But
- 43:00I do think it's started with Dorsey and he's involved in it throughout the whole
- 43:05piece. But I do think there is a decent chunk that is due to
- 43:08Josh Allen's decision making throwing balls that he shouldn't that lead interceptions, making poor
- 43:14decisions, whether it's him just not seeing guys or him trying to throw that
- 43:17he doesn't need to be trying to throw and it leads to a turnover.
- 43:22I also think I think he missed Cole Beasley down there in the red zone
- 43:25a true separator other than Stefon Diggs. You know, teams would double Stefon
- 43:29Diggs, and then it's like, okay, who else can I find?
- 43:32Who else will get open? Who's the guy who can go out there and
- 43:37get a bucket? And if you don't have somebody who's scheming those guys open,
- 43:42it's tough. And so I think all of those things coalesced into one.
- 43:45So I do think some of it is the Dorsey piece, but I
- 43:49do think I do think Dorsey's being used as a scapegoat a bit too much
- 43:52for anything that was involving any struggles with the Buffalo Bill's offense last year.
- 43:57So some of it rests with Dorsey, but some of it rest with Josh
- 44:00Allen's decision making. And then some of it is on the weapons. You
- 44:02know, guys just not being able to separate just because their skill set or
- 44:07their individual ability, inconsistencies with the offensive line play, and I do think
- 44:10a lack of effectiveness on the ground, which I'm gonna get into in a
- 44:14minute. So that way, teams sold out more for the past and they
- 44:16were just like, cool, We're just gonna flood the red zone with seven
- 44:21or eight dudes and zone coverage, we're gonna try to make you beat it.
- 44:22And when you have that condensed part of the field down there, where
- 44:25you've got the back of the end zone as a natural boundary and you've got
- 44:29the sidelines, it's almost like you got three extra defenders. And if you're
- 44:32already flooding the zone with seven or eight, and then also if you can
- 44:37just rush through your four and get pressure with those through your four, all
- 44:39these things kind of go together. So yes, I do think switching from
- 44:45Dable to Dorsey definitely had an impact. But I don't think that's the sole
- 44:49reason. I don't think it's just like watch it's all on Dorsey, as
- 44:52some people are making it out to be a good question. Do I appreciate
- 44:55the hell you also appreciate the kind words that are coming through and some saying
- 45:00some nice things about me in the chat. I appreciate you, folks.
- 45:02Seventy eight Max Million says it. He nails it. He says, don't
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- 45:30if it looks cheesy and not creative this year again, then can we blame
- 45:34Dorsey? Sure if it's If it's bland and awful, I don't think it's
- 45:37necessarily going to be though, because again he showed progression last year. Maybe
- 45:42it wasn't up the snuff of what we wanted it to be, but he
- 45:45got better in that red zone area as the season went on, so we'll
- 45:47see what he has cooking up for this year. I also think the addition
- 45:51of Dalton Kincaide and some other pieces will help as well, which I'm going
- 45:53to talk about in a minute and appreciate the kind words again from everybody coming
- 45:58into the chat so I get talked about. The big difference was in the
- 46:01Josh Allen Intentional Run Department, So Josh Allen's rushing EPA in the red zone
- 46:09from twenty twenty through twenty twenty two. Again on intentional QB runs. These
- 46:15are designed QB runs, QB sneaks, QB draws, QB power pit and
- 46:21pull all that kind of stuff. His EPA on these runs in twenty twenty
- 46:24was negative two point two nine, not great. Twenty twenty one it was
- 46:29eight point nine six, which is fantastic, but then it dipped back down
- 46:32again in twenty twenty two to negative one point seven five. Now again that's
- 46:37on intentional runs. On scrambles, the difference was a bit negligible. So
- 46:42if you're looking just on Josh Allen's rushing EPA on scrambles alone twenty twenty eight
- 46:46was zero point two one, jumped up to three point nine in twenty twenty
- 46:51one, and then dropped the little last year, but only down to three
- 46:53point one two. But the positive on him scrambling last year was out of
- 46:59those three seasons, last year he had the highest positive play percentage in twenty
- 47:04twenty two on his scrambles in the red zone at seventy seven point eight percent
- 47:07versus a sixty six point seven percent positive play right on scrambles in twenty twenty
- 47:13one and fifty percent in twenty twenty, so that that intentional run piece started
- 47:21to suffer. Now, for those of you who may I think like a
- 47:23mission initially you're going to go into and be like, oh, well,
- 47:25the elbow piece, the numbers didn't change that much from an intention intentional run
- 47:30standpoint. Once he had that elbow injury. I did the splits and I
- 47:37don't remember the numbers off hand, and I don't remember the numbers off hand
- 47:39because they weren't significant. The difference was negligible. That was the first thought
- 47:45I had. I was like, oh, let's see what it was once
- 47:46he had the elbow injury. But it didn't really matter too much. Now,
- 47:51if you're looking at it from a passing standpoint, this is where it
- 47:53starts to get a little murky. So if we're going from an EPA standpoint,
- 48:00Josh Allen's actually been on a bit of a decline in his red zone
- 48:02EPA going back from the last several years. So, just from a passing
- 48:07standpoint, Josh Allen's red zone EPA in twenty twenty, he was eighth amongst
- 48:14thirty thirty seven qualifying quarterbacks. This is for all these numbers I'm given now
- 48:17from a passing standpoint in the red zone it's out of thirty seven. In
- 48:21twenty twenty, he was eighth in EPA in the red zone. In twenty
- 48:25twenty one, he was thirteenth in EPA in the red zone, so still
- 48:30in the upper half. Still good. Twenty twenty two he dropped to thirty
- 48:34sixth in EPA in the red zone, and that thirty six again is out
- 48:37of thirty seven quarterbacks, So he was the second worst quarterback in terms of
- 48:42EPA in the red zone last year. Now, a significant piece of that
- 48:45is going to be the interceptions. When you are literally taking points away from
- 48:49your team by turning the ball over, that's going to significantly impact your expected
- 48:54points added in a negative way because you are literally removing the opportunity for point.
- 49:00So that's a huge piece for wise. EPA dropped so significantly in twenty
- 49:06twenty two. Positive play percentage was similar for all three years. Twenty twenty
- 49:09he was fifteenth, twenty twenty one he was sixteenth. Last year he was
- 49:14fifteenth. Interception percentage is where we saw the changes. So twenty twenty he
- 49:19was tied for the lowest interception percentage in the red zone because he threw no
- 49:22interceptions in the red zone. Twenty twenty one, he was twenty second out
- 49:27of thirty seven. Again, the lower the better for this one because it's
- 49:30interception percentage at a score of one point six percent. And then last year
- 49:34he ballooned up to first an interception percentage in red zone in the red zone
- 49:38at six point five percent. He also, from a volume standpoint, led
- 49:43all quarterbacks and red zone interceptions with six. Now again some of that you
- 49:46can attribute to what's the play design and what's the play call, and what's
- 49:52Dorsey's scheming up for him, and who's he getting open and where are the
- 49:54easy buttons and all those pieces. And I do think that is a fair
- 49:58comment. I do think Ken Dorsey needs to get better. I'm not absolving
- 50:00him of any fault or any criticism, but some of these interceptions are on
- 50:07Josh Allen, you know. I think of the one in New York where
- 50:09he didn't see the underneath the fender and I forget who he throws the two,
- 50:13but he throws it right to him and it's an interception. I think
- 50:15of the interception in the second half against the Green Bay Packers that he does
- 50:19not need to throw. I also think of some of the plays again.
- 50:23And I talked about this one last week end of the first half of the
- 50:28game against the Patriots. No, not against the Patriots, against the Miami
- 50:30Dolphins on Saturday night, the second game against Miami. End of the first
- 50:35half. What is it, four seconds left on the clock. They snapped
- 50:38the ball. He scrambles to his right, and he keeps scrambling to the
- 50:42point that he bleeds all the time off the clock. But then he finds
- 50:45James Cook and it's a touchdown, and it's amazing play and that helps his
- 50:49EPA score and that helps the red zone numbers. And you're like, oh
- 50:52my god, what an amazing play. That was a stupid play. You
- 50:54bled all the clock. At worst, the high percentage opportunity would have been
- 51:00snapped the ball. If your read isn't there, chuck the ball away,
- 51:01so hopefully there's a second left on the clock. He keep the field goal.
- 51:05Cool. Josh Allen went for a high risk, high reward play.
- 51:09He got the reward. You got a touchdown. Bills went into the half
- 51:13up twenty one to thirteen. Is that only being up seventeen to thirteen,
- 51:16But they had pretty much an equal shot of getting nothing on that play.
- 51:22And going in up one fourteen to thirteen instead of getting any points on the
- 51:25board at that time, which potentially swings some momentum from Miami. Josh Allen
- 51:30last year he pressed a lot, he played a lot more to that.
- 51:35Yet in that yang, I don't want to say sugar hi Josh Allen because
- 51:37I don't think it was the sugar high piece. I think it was more
- 51:40just him trying to do too much. Now again, you can connect it
- 51:44to Ken Dorsey and if you want to say, well, you know,
- 51:46he was trying to do too much because Ken Dorsey was asking too much of
- 51:51him. Ken Dorsey was putting too much on Josh Allen's plate. And I
- 51:53do agree with that to a degree. I think I tweeted it back out
- 51:57in October that it seemed like a lot of the offense was just, you
- 52:00know, we have this unicorn in Josh Allen, so the offense is cool.
- 52:05Let's just have him be a unicorn all the time, and that's just
- 52:07too hard to do now. I also said some pieces in regards to that
- 52:12about Brian Dable as well, So that's a fair that's a fair connection that
- 52:15we've seen in the last couple of years. I do think Dorsey needs to
- 52:17give him some more easy buttons. But we saw significant drops in Josh Allen's
- 52:23EPA in the red zone over the last several years, but especially from twenty
- 52:27twenty one two twenty twenty two. Completion percentage got worse each year these last
- 52:32three years as well. In twenty twenty he was eleventh in completion percentage at
- 52:37sixty two point five, twenty twenty one he was twenty fourth in completion percentage
- 52:42in the red zone at fifty six point three, and then last year he
- 52:45was twenty ninth in completion percentage. Again, all of these are out of
- 52:47thirty seven qbs. He was twenty ninth in completion percentage in twenty twenty two
- 52:52at forty nine point five percent, and then if you look at passer rating
- 52:57again, this one was almost like a continuous drop. Six in red zone
- 53:00passer rating in twenty twenty two, nineteen in red zone passer rating in twenty
- 53:06twenty one, and then thirty fifth in red zone passer rating in twenty twenty
- 53:09two. Again, that one's going to be heavily impacted by the interception.
- 53:15So again this isn't too absolve anyone or put blame solely on anyone. But
- 53:22I had a lot of the tweets today that you know as I put these
- 53:24out, and it was like, oh, well, this is Ken Dorsey's
- 53:27fallt like this is a Ken Dorsey versus Brian Dable stat and it is to
- 53:30a degree, but some of the onus has to be put onto Josh Allen
- 53:34and his decision making. Again though, there's a lot of chicken and egg
- 53:36scenario terms of which came first and how they all all connect and tie together,
- 53:39which is always one of my themes on this show. Very rarely is
- 53:43one player or one side of the ball, or one coach or one moment
- 53:47the reason why a game was Warner lost. There are is a multitude of
- 53:52variables that happened throughout an entire game that decide the fate of any NFL game,
- 53:55So always to keep that in mind. Like I mentioned earlier, though
- 54:00I forget when, but I do think Dalton Kinkaid will help in this regard.
- 54:02You have somebody who has the size and the frame to be a ball
- 54:07winner and go up and take the ball away. You have his skill set
- 54:12of him literally going up and snatching the ball out of the air, again,
- 54:15like we've talked about, he's talked about his basketball background and how it
- 54:20taught him to go up and grab rebounds and take it and snatch it and
- 54:22tuck it away. Like he's really good at going up, getting the ball,
- 54:25bringing it down, protecting it, shielding his body from defenders. He
- 54:29learned that in basketball. I think his size and his frame as a ball
- 54:31winner, and his hands and his large catch radius is a potentially easy button
- 54:37in the red zone. Add in his ability to separate, his ability to
- 54:39win technically, his ability to leverage space, his ability to recoverage, his
- 54:43ability to process pre to post snap changes. I think Dalton Kinkaid will help.
- 54:51I do think Ken Dorsey again though, like I mentioned, does need
- 54:53to give Josh Allen some more easy buttons. Whether it's especially if the offensive
- 54:58line can hold up, whether it's leaning into some more RPOs or leaning into
- 55:02more of the run game and creating more of a threat in that regard.
- 55:06So, all of a sudden, the play action game is more viable down
- 55:08there. All of a sudden, the bootleg game or the sprint out game
- 55:14is more viable down there. Now you get to work or incorporate Josh Allen's
- 55:16legs and mobility into some pieces. In addition to potentially faking out defenses and
- 55:22making them have to play the run because it's a threat. I also think
- 55:25the Bills have an opportunity to be a better run team this year. And
- 55:29if you can run the ball in the red zone, that's the best easy
- 55:31button forget about scheming guys open and pass protection and route concepts and reading coverage
- 55:39and beating this guy. Run the ball right right out of the defense,
- 55:45right down their friggin throat. That's the best friend for a quarterback in the
- 55:47red zone. I do think the Bills after the opportunity to be a better
- 55:52run team in the red zone there, and I do think the new running
- 55:55back editions will potentially help that. We'll see what we can from Damien Harris
- 56:00and or Latavius Murray. But either way, one of those guys I think
- 56:05is going to be dressing regularly, and both are guys who run down hill
- 56:08and run behind their pads. The Bills running backs in twenty twenty two or
- 56:14thirtieth in yards after contact per attempt in the red zone at one point three,
- 56:20that's really minuscule. One point three yards after contact per attempt in the
- 56:23red zone again thirtieth out of thirty two teams. I think the presence of
- 56:30Murray or Hill or Hill Murray or Damien Harris, whoever is the number two
- 56:36or potentially three, depending on what you get when the heim Hines and Cook
- 56:38as well. I think having an actual hammer in that backfield, someone who
- 56:44gets north and south in a hurry, who knows how to run behind their
- 56:46pads, who knows how to find the goal line. The Tavius Murray is
- 56:50a good goal line back and a good red zone dude, as is Damien
- 56:52Harris. I think that threat of the hammer in the backfield helps as well.
- 57:00Not knocking James Cook at all, but you've got two guys who could
- 57:05move the pile, who can get the tough yards, who can scrap and
- 57:07claw and be that physical yard eater in the low red zone or in the
- 57:14red zone in general. I think that's another potential easy button as well.
- 57:17And I think I think that's a very exciting piece what they could potentially began.
- 57:23I don't think they're gonna be the starter, but we'll see. Oh
- 57:28RJ Very harsh Man. RJ says if Ken Dorsey is the OC for a
- 57:31Super Bowl team. Also, pigs are flying. I just think it's impossible.
- 57:36He had one year and his offense was second in DVOA in his first
- 57:42year as an OC, and even when it was bad, they dropped the
- 57:45like seventh in DVOA. That doesn't mean he can't get better. That doesn't
- 57:49mean he hasn't had, you know, some struggles. But man, that
- 57:54is that is that. It's very very very very very harsh, very harsh,
- 58:00but understandable. I do get it. As Roy says, there's plenty
- 58:02of blame to go around. Yeah, it's a tough piece in the red
- 58:07zone especially, and again the red zone just by its nature is a harder
- 58:13place to score. Like I mentioned, the field is condensed. Everything is
- 58:16smaller. You can't beat guys over the top necessarily because you have the back
- 58:21line there. You can't necessarily go east and west because you got the sideline
- 58:23there like you doing the rest of the field. Everything gets tighter, everything
- 58:27gets more condensed, and then if teams are just playing zone coverage and they're
- 58:30just flooding that space with bodies, then it's like okay, like how do
- 58:36how do you get there? Right? What do you do? And I
- 58:39think having a run game piece will happen, what will help a lot.
- 58:45So there's there's some things that they can do. Oh and Walter said,
- 58:49Alan's offense is second. Man. You guys are just ruthless on Ken Dorsey.
- 58:52And I think that's a piece for me as well, because I've been
- 58:55critical at Dorsey since like again October. But I think we're at a point
- 59:00where if Josh Allen succeeds, it's Josh Allen succeeding. If Josh Allen fails,
- 59:07it's on Ken Dorsey, and it's not on Josh Allen. And I
- 59:09think that's incorrect, especially with some of the things later in the year.
- 59:13I talked about it in the last week's episode. You've got a thing like
- 59:16you know, the Bills are up seventeen to nothing against Miami in the playoffs.
- 59:21They're at midfield, it's first and ten and Allen takes a deep shot
- 59:23and throws an interception, and everybody's raking Dorsey over the coals, going what
- 59:28a horrible call. I can't believe Dorsey called a deep shot. E didn't
- 59:30call the deep shot. There was a deep option. Alan just didn't take
- 59:36the check down. That's his decision, like he chose to go and take
- 59:39that spot. And now I'm not excusing Dorsey in other areas, but it
- 59:43just seems like everybody's just piling on for this one piece. And I don't
- 59:50necessarily think that is the case. Walter says, we can't blame Allan for
- 59:54all the mistakes, then use his performance to mention we had the second offense
- 1:00:00in my opinion, but I'm not blaming Allen for all the mistakes. I
- 1:00:01think everything works together, like there is no one single person, even if
- 1:00:07you take the Chiefs for an example, right, Like Andy Reid's a great
- 1:00:09offensive mind. Patrick Holmes is an alien and the best quarterback in football.
- 1:00:14They both work together. Like Andy Reid is very good at scheming things open,
- 1:00:19but he's able to do certain things because of how Patrick Mahomes is able
- 1:00:22to operate. And then in the same token, Patrick Mahomes is able to
- 1:00:25operate in different spells and pieces because he has Andy Reid. Like who knows
- 1:00:31what Patrick Mahomes would be without Andy Reid. We know what Andy Reid is
- 1:00:35without Patrick Mahomes, and that's sometimes really good and also sometimes inefficient and not
- 1:00:40great. Like we also forget that Andy Reid was run out of Philly because
- 1:00:45he couldn't get over the hump, and Andy Reid was, you know,
- 1:00:50kind of getting raked over the coals a bit for the failures with Kansas City
- 1:00:52with Alex Smith. But you know it's again, it just seems like we're
- 1:00:58at a point where when Alan succeeds, it's just because of Josh Allen,
- 1:01:01and when Alan fails, it's Ken Dorsey's fault. And I just think you
- 1:01:06can't that doesn't exist. It's not that black and white like when the offense
- 1:01:09succeeds, it's dual, multitude of pieces. It's not just Ken Dorsey.
- 1:01:14It's not just Josh Allen. It's if a pass play works, it's not
- 1:01:16just Josh Allen. It's not just Ken Dorsey. It's the pass protection.
- 1:01:21It's the receiver getting open and seeing the right piece. Like it's all of
- 1:01:24those things again combining into one piece, into one gumbo that makes it work.
- 1:01:31Oh, this is a fay r J says Dabele, makes Allen take
- 1:01:34that check down. I do feel like the OC role is more than just
- 1:01:37play calling. Dorsey isn't a good fit for Alan because, unlike Dabel,
- 1:01:40he can't rain them in. But I also feel like we're forgetting about the
- 1:01:45parts when Brian Dable's offense only put up six points against the horrible Jacksonville Jaguars
- 1:01:50defense and people wanted to run Brian Dable out of town, Or when the
- 1:01:53Bills lost to the Steelers because Brian Dable wouldn't adjust and run the football in
- 1:01:59the second half against Pittsburgh Steelers and the Bills just were stuck in the mud,
- 1:02:01or even the kind of sluggishness the Bills had under Brian Dable. It
- 1:02:06just it seems like things aren't aren't aren't being treated equally, and there's a
- 1:02:12bit of a riginous history going on. Again, I do think Ken Dorsey
- 1:02:15needs to get better. I don't want to make it seem like I don't.
- 1:02:16I think he's all world. But I think we've gotten to the point
- 1:02:20where again, either the Miami one, that interception in the Miami game,
- 1:02:24the first one, I think it's the first one for Alan really sums it
- 1:02:30up for me. Like Alan takes a deep shot when he has a check
- 1:02:32down underneath and you're up seventeen nothing, there's no reason to press the ball
- 1:02:37and push it downfield when you're when you're at midfield and you're up seventeen nothing,
- 1:02:42there's no reason to take that deep shot. All you have to do
- 1:02:45is see now it's not there. Let me throw it away at all.
- 1:02:46Let me look to the checkdown and everybody coming in and look look at these
- 1:02:50deep shots that Ken Dorsey's calling. That wasn't on Ken Dorsey, Alan chose
- 1:02:54that route in the play. And also it's it's tough to tell a quarterback
- 1:03:00before the play. Hey, this is exactly what's going to happen in the
- 1:03:04coverage, take this check down. What if it doesn't happen like that and
- 1:03:07you've set him up for failure because the play doesn't develop that way, or
- 1:03:09what happens if the deep shot is available and you want him to take that
- 1:03:13deep shot, but he doesn't because you told him to take the check down
- 1:03:16and you made him predetermine his decision before the play even happened. You need
- 1:03:22him to be able to read it out, and Josh Allen needs Ken Dorsey
- 1:03:25to provide him some of those easy buttons and they all come together. So
- 1:03:32we'll see what happens in that regard. Very interesting conversation, though, to
- 1:03:36have another piece in this conversation. This one's more of a general one.
- 1:03:42It's less analysis, more of a just a general question, I think a
- 1:03:44bit of a fun question. Who or what is going to be the secondary
- 1:03:49pitch for this Buffalo Bill's offense. So if we're looking at it from the
- 1:03:52primary piece, we know what the Bill's fastball is, we know it's that
- 1:03:57passing game. We know it's the Josh Allen piece. Oh, actually I
- 1:04:01want to go from this from Joe. Joe says, I also feel like
- 1:04:05Josh Allen had a lack of trust for whoever his slot target was. Not
- 1:04:09having the safety valve and bees really affected Josh's decision making. That's absolutely true.
- 1:04:15Mentioned it last week. I think the Bills had four the top fifty
- 1:04:19players in drops with Gabe Davis, Devin Singletary, Isaiah McKenzie, and Dawson
- 1:04:26Knox. In terms of drop percentage, they had four in the top eighteen.
- 1:04:29I think Davis was one, Singletary was five, McKenzie was six,
- 1:04:32and Dawson Knox was eighteen in terms of drop percentage. And a lot of
- 1:04:35those guys work on the interior from the slot standpoint, or if you're Knox,
- 1:04:41you're in line, you're working over the middle. We saw I think
- 1:04:44that lack of trust. I mean we saw it even from week one,
- 1:04:45like when the Bills smoked the Rams, Isa McKenzie drops that ball that pops
- 1:04:49into the air interception. I think that that piece influenced things as well.
- 1:04:56And then also from a schematic standpoint, Colby, you know when he was
- 1:05:00here in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty was I mean twenty twenty was an
- 1:05:03All Pro receiver. Twenty twenty one when he was healthy, he still had
- 1:05:05a ton of juice. He was a guy. He was a walking separator
- 1:05:11in the slot. Cole Beasley verse zone versus man. You needed him to
- 1:05:15get open on a crucial down bang he got open. And when you're pairing
- 1:05:18that with Stefon Diggs, that's a really dangerous piece anywhere, but especially in
- 1:05:21the red zone. I think that's a great comment from Joe like and again
- 1:05:26that's another piece that's not getting taken into account right like, oh, scheme
- 1:05:29these guys open, or schematics and play design, what happens if the guys
- 1:05:33are dropping the ball or the guys aren't getting open. Also another piece with
- 1:05:38the Ken Dorsey piece as well. And I've seen people talk about this.
- 1:05:42There'd be two guys in the same spot and everybody'd be like, oh,
- 1:05:45well, another example of Dorsey's offense falling apart. Some of those aren't on
- 1:05:49Ken Dorsey. Some of those are the receivers making the wrong read and then
- 1:05:54going into the same spot. Now, if you want to say Dorsey needs
- 1:05:57to simplify things and not have such a read based offense, that's fine.
- 1:06:00But it was working in a similar fashion with other players. Now it's not.
- 1:06:04We have to kind of he gotta take a look at both sides.
- 1:06:08I like this comment there from Joe. This I think is a good comment
- 1:06:12from Jessica. Jessica says, Aunt, my worry is Dorsey and Josh are
- 1:06:15two p's in the pod. You made an already QB centric offense even more
- 1:06:19QB centric. Two qbs to two QB's answer to offenses issues more QB.
- 1:06:27I think that's a fair point, and I also think the fair point of
- 1:06:30and I mentioned it last week Josh Allen. My bigger worry. I think
- 1:06:32Dorsey can get there schematically and from an x as an no standpoint, I
- 1:06:36do think it's fair to question it, but A big worry for me is,
- 1:06:40you know, Josh Allen, like I've said, he goes for the
- 1:06:43throw. He wants to get as much blood from every stone as he can.
- 1:06:46My worry is I think Ken Dorsey is like that as well. And
- 1:06:49so when Josh makes a mistake and is like, I got to come back
- 1:06:54and get it all back in one play, I'm worried that Ken Dorsey might
- 1:06:57be like, yeah, I agree, let's try and get it all back
- 1:06:59in one play, and it's like, oh, Like that kind of worries
- 1:07:02me. If you've got the OC and the quarterback both out for blood in
- 1:07:08the same way, then I think that's when those things start to snowball and
- 1:07:12things start to build up. I want to see if Dorsey can rain himself
- 1:07:15in and Josh Allen in a bit more in this next piece, so we'll
- 1:07:20see. See. I don't want to keep picking. I gotta get off
- 1:07:25this topic. But as Arte says at Joe, I think not using Knox
- 1:07:29is that safety valum until late in the season didn't help Dawson. Knox also
- 1:07:32had a horrible drop rate for tight ends, though also there were times again
- 1:07:38to go to the Josh Allen piece where Dawson Knox is open underneath or on
- 1:07:43drag routes, and Josh Allen's not going to him, He's going to other
- 1:07:47guys. Or Dawson Knox is open, but guess what, he's running a
- 1:07:51drag and he's going from right to left. But guess what, Roger Staffold
- 1:07:56got beat on the left side, so Allen gets flushed and rushed to the
- 1:07:59right. There's all these things again that add up. And I'm not saying
- 1:08:01it to give ken Dorsey a pass, but all these examples that keep being
- 1:08:04laid at the feet of Ken Dorsey can't just be completely laid at the feet
- 1:08:09of Ken Dorsey. There's a multitude of variables and factors that all connect.
- 1:08:13It's a huge, huge, huge piece. But again I understand the frustration
- 1:08:15and the cause for that concern and again the questions for him, because I
- 1:08:19do think Ken Dorsey has to get better. I just think so many things
- 1:08:23are getting laid at his feet for blame, and I don't think it's as
- 1:08:27easy as that. I think he's kind of the low hanging fruit for up.
- 1:08:30Something went wrong. It's Ken Dorsey. Up. Taxes went up Ken
- 1:08:33Dorsey, Like oh, it's raining Ken Dorsey like it. I just I
- 1:08:38don't buy that, but I do think he needs to get better schematically,
- 1:08:41especially in the red zone, as he progressed about the year and giving Josh
- 1:08:44Allen more easy buttons. That also ties in to this next piece though,
- 1:08:49with who or what is that secondary pitch the Bill's primary motive attack, it's
- 1:08:54going to be the pass and then if we you know, tried to niche
- 1:08:58it down even more so, that passing attack is their fastball, and we
- 1:09:00know the fastball within the fastball is Josh Allen to Stefon Diggs if we want
- 1:09:04to get granular. But as we've discussed on the show last year this offseason,
- 1:09:10having a fastball isn't enough. Even if your fastball is really, really
- 1:09:15really good, even if your fastball is an amazing pitch, it's not enough.
- 1:09:17You need a secondary pitch and ideally a third and a fourth pitch as
- 1:09:21well. So I'm interested to see you know who or what that secondary pitch
- 1:09:27is. And I think that's a question facing this offense, like it could
- 1:09:30be a multitude of things. It could be a player, it could be
- 1:09:33formational, it could be personnel based. Is maybe the fastball is tied to
- 1:09:39their twelve personnel package, and so maybe the secondary pitch is twenty one personnel,
- 1:09:44or maybe the secondary pitch is the play action you built off of those
- 1:09:48looks and those heavy personnel looks. Maybe the secondary pitch is an individual player.
- 1:09:54Maybe it's Gay Davis, Maybe it's Dawson Knox, maybe it's Dalton Kincaid.
- 1:09:58Maybe it's someone or something to the pass, or maybe it's the other
- 1:10:03pivot in the offense. Maybe it's the run game. And then if you're
- 1:10:06looking at the run game, is it the Josh Allen run game? Is
- 1:10:09it the non Josh Allen run game? Is it James Cook? Is it?
- 1:10:13You know power offense and you know duo and downhill runs and inside zone
- 1:10:17and all these pieces like who were what is that secondary pitch? Who?
- 1:10:21This is funny for mar Jay broken doors caused the rain man? I like
- 1:10:25where you had his head? Who? Or what is that secondary pitch for
- 1:10:30the offense? What is the pivot? What is the the nice kind of
- 1:10:35release valve for the offense? That isn't just all right, Allen's dropping back
- 1:10:41to pass and he's going to make a play with his arm or he's gonna
- 1:10:45make a play with his legs, like who or what is that secondary pitch?
- 1:10:47And again, it could be an individual player the secondary pitch or the
- 1:10:51secondary option. It could be Gabe Davis, could be Dawson Knox, It
- 1:10:56could be doln Kinkaid. It could be formational, it could be all so.
- 1:11:00I mean, it could be tempo. It could be no huddle,
- 1:11:02it could be mixing that up. It could be full spread offense. This
- 1:11:08is a fantastic comment. Joe says, I just got killed in Zelda.
- 1:11:10I blame Ken Dorsey. Also that ties into blaming Ken Dorsey for the rain.
- 1:11:15If we're going with the new Zelda game and we're you know, Tears
- 1:11:17of the Kingdom Tears rain Water. I like how we just connected all that.
- 1:11:20I appreciate everybody in the chat. Well done. I'm excited to play
- 1:11:24Tears of the Kingdom. I can't get sidetracked with that right now, but
- 1:11:27I like where your head's at, Joe. Very well done. Yes it's
- 1:11:30still a thing, Sarah and say Zelda is still a thing. Dorsey's fault.
- 1:11:33Absolutely you you die, you die in Zelda, link falls off a
- 1:11:39cliff, dies and Dorsey's fault. Very fair. So who who or what
- 1:11:43is that secondary pitch I think is a question for this offense. And again,
- 1:11:47it could be personnel based, It could be formational, it could be
- 1:11:50alignment based. It could be an individual player, it could be a personnel
- 1:11:54package. It could be the run game in a variety of ways, I
- 1:11:59think, Or it could be again, maybe the fastball is more underneath and
- 1:12:04short intermediate passes, more quick game. Maybe the secondary pitch is deep shots
- 1:12:09and pushing the ball vertically, or maybe the primary mode of attack and the
- 1:12:12fastball is more vertical shots. Maybe that the secondary pitch is quick game.
- 1:12:15Maybe the screen game finally develops, which Josh Allen has never been good at
- 1:12:19his entire career, which we talked about on last week's episode. So maybe
- 1:12:24it's that piece. I think it'll be interesting to see because you need that
- 1:12:28secondary pitch, you need that third pitch, but at the very least you
- 1:12:30need to have the one too. If you've got a really good fastball,
- 1:12:33you need a curveball. You need something off speed fastball, change up fastball,
- 1:12:38curve fastball, slide or something. You need that ability to change locations
- 1:12:43or change speeds or even with your fastball, you can't just pound it low
- 1:12:46and away. You have to work in a variety of ways. You got
- 1:12:48to go high and inside. You might have to go low and inside.
- 1:12:51You might have to go low, middle, maybe a little chin music.
- 1:12:54There's a variety of ways that throw those pitches. The Tree, I appreciate
- 1:12:59you being here. I appreciate the super chat. The Tree says, second
- 1:13:01year Ken Dorsey and a healthy Josh and an improved offensive line slash weapons.
- 1:13:08I believe going from number two to one in DV away offensively is something I'm
- 1:13:12expecting. Am I crazy Weld? I want to go to this comment because
- 1:13:15Walter says, damn you and I jumped out this pod to try to forget
- 1:13:18about Zola for a few hours, and here you are bringing it up.
- 1:13:20Don't blame me, that's Joe, but I will. I will take some
- 1:13:24blame. But see, but just like the offensive struggles, it's not just
- 1:13:29me, it's not just Joe. It's a little Ken Dorsey, it's a
- 1:13:31little Josh Allen, it's a little offensive line, it's a little weapons.
- 1:13:34It's all of it. But that's funny. I do apologetic back to the
- 1:13:39Tree. I don't think it's it's crazy to think that the Bills could be
- 1:13:44the number one offensive football This offense was cooking last year. I think you're
- 1:13:47just banking on the idea of Okay, Ken Dorsey learned from his mistakes in
- 1:13:53year one and is going to improve in the areas he needs to improve in.
- 1:13:57What's also what you can also have, right, is because you can
- 1:14:00win with two ways. You can win in two ways. You can win
- 1:14:02with scheme or you can win with talent. Right. And maybe maybe Ken
- 1:14:10Dorsey doesn't improve at all in terms of play call and design. Maybe he
- 1:14:14doesn't improve at all, but maybe the offensive line improves so much that Josh
- 1:14:18Allen just has all this time and guys and guys eventually separate, or maybe
- 1:14:24the addition of Dalton Kincaid and Deante Hardy, maybe they're just these separators and
- 1:14:30these guys who win and fit with what Josh Allen needs. And so maybe
- 1:14:33the play calls and design don't get better, but the players got better and
- 1:14:38there's more consistency out of the slot, and the weapons are better. And
- 1:14:42maybe Gabe Davis, because he doesn't have a bum ankle for the first half
- 1:14:44of the year, maybe his performance is better and all of a sudden you're
- 1:14:46winning with talent, or maybe the offensive line is still mad and the weapons
- 1:14:51are still mad. But Ken Dorsey improved so much as a play caller and
- 1:14:55designer that he's better schematically this year and better from an x is Ano's perspective.
- 1:15:00So I don't think it's crazy to think that. Again, you usually
- 1:15:05are for the entire offseason how you finished the year, and the Bill's offense
- 1:15:10finished the year in a horrible fashion with the way they fizzled out against Cincinnati
- 1:15:14offensively and defensively, and when you add it up with some of the struggles
- 1:15:17from the end of the year, I think the thought is, man,
- 1:15:21this Bill's offense was so bad last year, and that's not the case.
- 1:15:24Similar too, I talked about I think on last week's episode. The year
- 1:15:28before the Bills just had two crazy track meet performances against the Patriots in the
- 1:15:32wildcard round and then the Chiefs in the thirteen Seconds game. But their offense
- 1:15:36was super sluggish going into those games, and then all of a sudden they
- 1:15:40hit fire or hit their stride and caught fire, and people forget about the
- 1:15:45struggles because the year ended. But they were amazing. So they were an
- 1:15:47amazing offense. I think it was the flip side, the opposite side of
- 1:15:50the coin in twenty twenty two. So no, I don't think you're crazy
- 1:15:54for expecting that. I do think it's gonna be tough to dethrone Patrick Mahomes
- 1:15:58and Andy Reid as the number one offense in anything, whether it's dB away,
- 1:16:03whether it's explosive plays, whether it's scoring. I think it's gonna be
- 1:16:08tough to dethrow in them, or maybe even the Eagles, just with their
- 1:16:11the talent they have and the system that they have and Hurts plus the offensive
- 1:16:15line, plus their running backs, plus their receivers, plus Dallas Godder like,
- 1:16:19Oh, that's a tough piece. But no, I don't think it's
- 1:16:23crazy to expect that. It's just you're you're banking on either one or both
- 1:16:29in terms of the scheme or talent getting better, and I think I think
- 1:16:31they will get better in both. I think the talent is better from a
- 1:16:34dynamic standpoint, from a skill set standpoint, and I think Ken Dorsey will
- 1:16:38be better. So I do have faith, and then I do again Ken
- 1:16:41Dorsey. I've been critical of them all year last year, starting again,
- 1:16:45I think in early October but he did have some positive things, and he
- 1:16:49was a first year rosie, so you know, see what he does in
- 1:16:51year two with some improved weapons and an improve offensive line, and we'll see
- 1:16:55what we get. Oh Ak cash as the secondary pitch could be bootleg play
- 1:17:00action, because I think Allen is going to be chilling in the pocket most
- 1:17:03of the time with our new guard, with our new guards, I would
- 1:17:06like that very much. I would like that very very very much. This
- 1:17:12is a good comment from Sarah. Sarah says, I think Dorsey will come
- 1:17:14out with a chip on his shoulder. I'm not worried about the start,
- 1:17:15just hope he's got more answers. When the d catches on into justus.
- 1:17:19That's a concern for me as well. Even if he tied to last year
- 1:17:24week one in week two, I'm just using those as low hanging fruit.
- 1:17:27The game plan was great against the Rams. The game plan was great against
- 1:17:30the Titans. Ken Dorsey gave Josh Allen all the answers. Like credit to
- 1:17:35Josh Allen for pulling the trigger, but Dorsey was given him easy buttons and
- 1:17:39all the answers to the test left and right. In Week one and Week
- 1:17:41two, Defense started to catch on a little bit, and I think Dorsey
- 1:17:45had less answers as the season progressed. Now he's got an entire offseason to
- 1:17:48look back and see what answers he should have created, what questions defenses were
- 1:17:54asking of him, and how he kind of got put into specific situations.
- 1:17:58Yeah, and so we'll see that adjustment piece. I'm hoping he learned from
- 1:18:01the back half of last year, and then we'll use that to kind of
- 1:18:08propel them forward. It's going to be it's going to be an interesting piece.
- 1:18:12Oh oh yeah, And I see the comments going on in the chat
- 1:18:19there as well. Yeah, Josh Allen is he's not good at screens.
- 1:18:24We talked about it a bit last week. I think when you have a
- 1:18:27running quarterback, defensive lines aren't really just selling out to rush the passer to
- 1:18:30the point where they rush forward and then you just drop it in behind him
- 1:18:33and it's a screen piece. I think there's so that's working against the offense
- 1:18:38because all eyes are on Josh Allen and you're not getting guys selling out to
- 1:18:41come attack him and make a b line for him in the pocket at the
- 1:18:43end of his drop. Also, just his rhythm and his timing with it.
- 1:18:47I don't think he has that touch or the timing or the eye discipline
- 1:18:51to mislead defenders when it's going to be a screen, Like if it's a
- 1:18:56screen to the running back, like he snaps it, you can tell like,
- 1:18:58oh, it's going to be a screen. He's better at some wide
- 1:19:00receiver screens like smoke screens and things like that, but your running back screens
- 1:19:03out of the backfield. Yeah, it's it didn't work under Dable, It
- 1:19:08didn't work in Dorsey's rookie or An Allen's rookie year. It didn't work last
- 1:19:12year with Dorsey, Like who it's just yeah, some of it is I
- 1:19:15think a lot of it is on just some of it is on the way
- 1:19:17again defenses play out in the Bill's offense, But I think a good chunk
- 1:19:21of it is on Alan, Like he just he's just screens. Screens take
- 1:19:26practice and talent and timing, Like I don't think that screens are like the
- 1:19:30easiest thing the offensive line timing. The deception that you create with the formation
- 1:19:34and like your alignment starts from a play calling perspective, but then the execution
- 1:19:38piece within the play, how you sell it as an offensive lineman, how
- 1:19:42the running back sells it, how the quarterback sells it, and then the
- 1:19:45quarterback needs the timing and touch. There's a lot of moving parts that go
- 1:19:47into it, and yeah, Allen just it just has not worked. In
- 1:19:49Allen's tenure, I've given up hope on screen on the screen game, especially
- 1:19:54from a running backscreen perspective, like, I just can't do it. I
- 1:19:58just can't do it anymore. So the secondary pitch is an interesting one and
- 1:20:02one of those pieces that I would like to see be a secondary pitch ties
- 1:20:05into one of my other big questions, which is the effectiveness of the run
- 1:20:10game and the style of the run game. So overall last year, the
- 1:20:15Bills finished eleventh and rushing DV away in twenty twenty two, which is good.
- 1:20:19They almost had a top ten rushing attack to go with a number two
- 1:20:24passing attack and a number two offensive dv away overall, but they got better
- 1:20:29as the year went on. So weeks one through ten the Bills were sixteenth
- 1:20:33in rushing dbuway, so not bad. And this also includes Josh Allen runs,
- 1:20:38So take that kind of with a grain of salt and put that in
- 1:20:40your mind as well. So weeks one through ten, the bills rushing attack
- 1:20:43was sixteenth in dv AWAY. Weeks eleven through eighteen, they were six in
- 1:20:48rushing dv away. If you want to break it up to the first half
- 1:20:51of the season from eight games to the back half eight games, you look
- 1:20:57at weeks one through nine, they were fifteenth in rushing dv away. They
- 1:21:01were also seventh in EPA per attempt in these weeks from a rushing standpoint,
- 1:21:06but if you're just counting running backs, they were twenty seventh in EPA per
- 1:21:13attempt in the first half of the season weeks one through nine. The back
- 1:21:15half of the season weeks ten through eighteen, the Bills were eleventh in EPA
- 1:21:23per attempt in those weeks, but they were eighth in EPA per attempt for
- 1:21:28just running backs. So weeks one through nine twenty seventh in EPA per attempt
- 1:21:33out of thirty two NFL teams. Weeks one through nine, they were twenty
- 1:21:36seventh in EPA per attempt for running backs. Weeks ten through eighteen, they
- 1:21:42jumped up to eighth in EPA per attempt for running backs and Devin Singletary had
- 1:21:45a good year down the stretch. But James Cook became more of a focal
- 1:21:49point in the run game down the stretch for the Buffalo Bills weeks ten through
- 1:21:53eighteen, and that's a piece I want to talk about here. So James
- 1:21:56Cook amongst the fifty seven players to this includes non running backs. Amongst the
- 1:22:02fifty seven players that had at least forty carries weeks ten through eighteen, James
- 1:22:08Cook was ninth in EPA per attempt in weeks ten through eighteen. Also a
- 1:22:13fun fact, Josh Allen was twelfth in EPA per attempt in weeks ten through
- 1:22:17eighteen, and Devin Singletary was twenty fifth. So pretty good. But if
- 1:22:21you're looking at just running backs, okay, so knock it down, eliminate
- 1:22:26your non running back. So I think it was six quarterbacks. So you
- 1:22:30got fifty one running backs who had at least forty carries weeks ten through eighteen.
- 1:22:35Of those fifty one running backs who had at least forty carries weeks tenth
- 1:22:40through eighteen, James Cook was sixth in EPA total. He was third in
- 1:22:46yards per attempt, He was ninth in first down percentage. I'm sorry,
- 1:22:50he was sixth in EPA per attempt so six in DPA per attempt, third
- 1:22:54in yards per attempt, ninth and first down percentage. Devin Singletary was also
- 1:22:59good down the stretch. He was twentieth and EPA per attempt, twelfth in
- 1:23:01yards per attempt, third and first down percentage. The Bill's non Josh Allen
- 1:23:05run game started to gain more traction as the season went on as a whole,
- 1:23:10and James Cook in particular, and we talked talked about this bit last
- 1:23:14week touchdown a bit last week. James Cook looks to be the RB one.
- 1:23:17So who is the RB two and how much of a timeshare is there
- 1:23:20between Cook and whoever the RB two is. Do we see an RB three
- 1:23:25guy utilize it all? Is it Cook and Harrison Murray? Is it Cook
- 1:23:30and either Harris or Murray? And Hines? Is Hines? The number two?
- 1:23:33Is it a one two combo? Is it a one two three?
- 1:23:35What does the snaps get? How did the snaps get divvied up? We
- 1:23:39talked about this last week, but I continue to talk about this, and
- 1:23:44this ties into a bit into the secondary pitch piece that we had in our
- 1:23:46previous segment. I think you need a run game in today's NFL. I've
- 1:23:50been saying that you need a run game for the past two seasons. I
- 1:23:54think it's more evident now more than ever, with how the offenses are starting
- 1:23:59to swing the pen gelim back in their favor. Even though NFL offenses are
- 1:24:02fueled by the pass and driven by the pass, and it's a passing league,
- 1:24:08teams need to be able to run the ball. It keeps defenses honest
- 1:24:11in general, but more importantly in today's NFL, where defenses started to employ
- 1:24:16those two high coverage structures and shells. If you can run the ball successfully,
- 1:24:21you can pull teams from those two high coverage shells and structures and also
- 1:24:27take advantage of light boxes and nickel defenses, especially when you mix it with
- 1:24:31certain personnel packages like I don't know twelve personnel like the Bills might do with
- 1:24:38Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox in twenty twenty three. Who knows. The running
- 1:24:42game is also a nice breather opportunity for Josh Allen. Literally just let him
- 1:24:45staff the ball and hand it off more of a relaxing rep. You're not
- 1:24:48taxing him mentally, you're not taxing him physically. You are lighting the load
- 1:24:54on him from a physicality and a mentality standpoint, even if it's just for
- 1:24:58one rep or two reps, but it's it's such a nice pivot. It's
- 1:25:02such a nice secondary option if you can run the football. It also helps
- 1:25:06when there's bad weather. It also helps when you have a good passing attack
- 1:25:12like the Bills do, and teams are built to stop your passing attack.
- 1:25:15Teams are going to be concerned about Stefan Das. Teams are going to be
- 1:25:18concerned about Dalton Kincaid and Gabe Davis and Josh Allen and what he can do
- 1:25:24with his arm. So if you've got that pivot in the run game,
- 1:25:28that's very exciting. James Cook had a very strong end of the year down
- 1:25:31the stretch, especially in those mid zone runs. But he's almost fifty fifty
- 1:25:35in terms of gap versus zone runs, so he's got some scheme versatility to
- 1:25:40him. I think the scheme will largely be determined by whoever starts at right
- 1:25:44guard. I do think if Torrence wins, like I said last week,
- 1:25:46I think you start to see more downhill runs mixed in, more duo,
- 1:25:49more inside zone, more of those at you type of runs, and I
- 1:25:54think the goal line runs and red zone runs become easier if you have o
- 1:25:58Cyrus Torrance a right guard and you're run in Damian Harris or Latavius Murray behind
- 1:26:01him. Just pound the rock, move the pile, grind out those tough
- 1:26:05yards, fall forward, and just punish teams physically run right at them.
- 1:26:13I think how effective the run game is could really go a long way towards
- 1:26:17helping this offense. The run game in and of itself is kind of a
- 1:26:21schematic easy button because things just start to develop more again. Especially, teams
- 1:26:28aren't gonna want to play you with two high coverage structures if you are gouging
- 1:26:31them in the run. Teams aren't gonna want to give you a light box
- 1:26:35if you are gouging them in the run. And think too, you know,
- 1:26:39because I know Bills fans are always going to think of the Chiefs.
- 1:26:43Think about when Mahomes got hurt against Jacksonville and Chad Henney went in. What
- 1:26:47did the Chiefs do? They ran the ball down the jack's throat. What
- 1:26:51happened in the Super Bowl when Mahomes dinged up his ankle again and they came
- 1:26:56out in the second half the Chiefs ran the ball down. The Eagles throat.
- 1:27:00The Bengals developed a running game as the season went on last year,
- 1:27:03the Buccaneers a couple of years ago when they won the Super Bowl had a
- 1:27:06very strong running game. In the San Francisco forty nine ers have a very
- 1:27:10strong running game. I forget the numbers off the top of my head,
- 1:27:12but I know that the best offenses are led by the pass and are strong
- 1:27:16from the passing dv away standpoint. But a lot of the best offenses usually
- 1:27:20have a rushing dv away in the top twelve or the top ten. So
- 1:27:25you need that piece, especially for a team like the Buffalo Bills, where
- 1:27:29you don't want everything on Josh Allen shoulders mentally and physically. Give him some
- 1:27:32easy buttons. It's so nice to just snap the ball and hand it off,
- 1:27:38you know, and we could get to the readoption piece, we could
- 1:27:40get to the RPO piece. So many things start to open up. QB
- 1:27:45power or those QB bash those you know, those back away runs. There's
- 1:27:49so much you can do with misdirection and moving your offensive line and changing gaps,
- 1:27:54and then you have the twelve personnel piece. You can get into some
- 1:28:00nub formations. Put some wide receivers out to the field side. Put the
- 1:28:05nub formation into the boundary. You can get to a ton of different runs
- 1:28:10off of that, you can get to a ton of different passes. Is
- 1:28:12the defense going to leave? They're two high safeties out there, cool?
- 1:28:15Run it down their throat. Are they gonna bring a safety down in the
- 1:28:17box or they are cool? Beat them over the top, beat them with
- 1:28:20the pass. You're gonna at least Devon Diggs one on one on the outside.
- 1:28:25Like, there's all these formational advantages and tempo advantages and rhythmic advantages if
- 1:28:30you can run the ball. And I think how effective the run game is
- 1:28:35and the style of the run game, what kind of run game we see.
- 1:28:39I think it's a big question facing the Bills offense. I think Ken
- 1:28:44Dorsey and Josh Allen and this Bill's offense and any offense in general, but
- 1:28:49especially one that is so dynamic in the past and so dangerous with the pass.
- 1:28:55If you have the threat of a running game and an effective one,
- 1:28:58and an efficient one and one that works, what do you do? It
- 1:29:01was such an unfair piece for the Chiefs last year when Isaiah Pacheco, and
- 1:29:05that run game got going on because it was like, great, how do
- 1:29:09you stop the Chiefs? Now they've got Mahomes and Kelsey and Juju's working out
- 1:29:13fine, sky Moore is okay, Valdes Scantling's okay. But now they're running
- 1:29:16the ball down people's throats, Like, what are we supposed to do?
- 1:29:18Now? We have to honor the run and we have to try to put
- 1:29:21numbers into coverage to stop at Mahomes. Similar piece with the Eagles, different
- 1:29:27type of running game because the quarterback you have in Jalen Hurts, But what
- 1:29:30do you do? Do you put numbers in coverage to stop Devanta Smith and
- 1:29:34A J. Brown and Dallas Goddard or do you put numbers in the box
- 1:29:40because they're just gonna run some QB pin and pull, or they're gonna run
- 1:29:43a readoption, or they're gonna run the RPO piece, or they're gonna run
- 1:29:45a QB draw. Oh you only got six men in the box or five?
- 1:29:48Cool, we're gonna run it right at you with our quarterback. Or
- 1:29:51give it to Miles Sanders or this year they'll give it to a Rashad Penny
- 1:29:55or DeAndre Swift when you've got those those offenses that can play rock paper scissors
- 1:30:01and throw rock paper and scissors, it's a beautiful thing. I'm going to
- 1:30:05continue to emphasize that point every single offseason until I see it come to fruition
- 1:30:12it. It'll be very exciting. One then, as ak Cash says,
- 1:30:15imagine the shifts and the motions with kincaid that leverages strength against the d.
- 1:30:18Yeah, then you can start playing games with the defense. Different shifts right,
- 1:30:24different motion, whether it's you know, kind of orbit motion, maybe
- 1:30:28going with jet motion, or just a formational shift. You come out any
- 1:30:30lineup into two by two and then all of a sudden, you know,
- 1:30:32shift into a nub formation, or you shift into a numb with some trips,
- 1:30:36or you're in a two by two and then you shift out and it's
- 1:30:41full spread and Cook is in the slaughter. Cook is out wide. Like
- 1:30:44you can do all these pieces, or again, go from a more exploded
- 1:30:48view from a spread look and then condense and shift into a run look and
- 1:30:53run it down a defense's throat. Like defense is going to see, oh,
- 1:30:56there looks like they're about to be in spread. Let's get our nickel
- 1:30:58package out there now, come to the line, check, shift into a
- 1:31:01single back formation, run down their throat, runner right at them, whether
- 1:31:04it's with Josh Allen or with James Cook, who, like I mentioned,
- 1:31:09had a really strong end to the year last year. R J says here,
- 1:31:15I think a better offensive line also makes the overall offense more consistent.
- 1:31:18Agreed, Casey had one of the best offensive lines in the league last year.
- 1:31:23Absolutely, I think that's a huge piece that gets left out in the
- 1:31:29Andy Reid Mahomes. Why can't can Dorsey be like that with Josh Allen discussion
- 1:31:34the Chief's offensive line on Whiley and Brown had their concerns, but on the
- 1:31:41interior, Joe Tuoney all pro, fantastic, Creed Humphrey all pro, Trey
- 1:31:47Smith. I don't think it was an all pro, but it's really,
- 1:31:49really, really good. You don't have any of that interior pressure. If
- 1:31:53your guys on the outside are a bit vulnerable, you can chip them,
- 1:31:56you can do some different things formationally or an alignment perspective, or you know,
- 1:32:00Mahomes can make those outside guys, those outside edge rushers miss if they're
- 1:32:02trying to get around the arc because he has that space on the interior that's
- 1:32:05a huge piece. I think what the Chief's offensive line was and what it
- 1:32:10does in the grand scheme of things, and hopefully the Bills might be able
- 1:32:14to recreate some of that with Connor McGovern and Mitch Morris and Ryan Bates or
- 1:32:19Osiris Torrents. I would like Osyrius Tornans to win the job, mainly because
- 1:32:25I want Ryan Bates as the super sub because I think you're gonna need it.
- 1:32:29No offensive line stays healthy for an entire season. It's just impossible to
- 1:32:33do so. So I would like to have Ryan Bates be that guy that,
- 1:32:36oh plugging it left guard, Oh, plug in it center, Oh
- 1:32:40plugging it right guard, which could still work even if Bates wins the job.
- 1:32:44If bateses are starting right guard and McGovern goes down or is banged up,
- 1:32:48or Morse is banged up or goes down, slide Bates over plug Torrents
- 1:32:53in. That'll be an interesting piece as well. Oh it's going to be
- 1:33:00oh, as Andrews says, yeah, Hardy in orbit. You can do
- 1:33:01a lot of things with Deanta Hardy. There's the Bills have a more dynamic
- 1:33:06skill position group this year than they did last year. McKenzie was not the
- 1:33:13prince that people thought he would be, was not the prince that was promised.
- 1:33:15I tried to tell people, I'm not trying to dunk on anything or
- 1:33:17be like look at me, but I said, it's gonna be a lot
- 1:33:20harder to replace Colebsley and replicate Colebesley's production and role than people thought. It
- 1:33:27wasn't. It was like, no, McKenzie can do that easy. Jamison
- 1:33:29Crowder can do that easy. Crowder got banged up because he's had an injury.
- 1:33:32He's ad an injury history, which was a big concern of mine for
- 1:33:35James and Crowder going into the year last year, and even when he was
- 1:33:39healthy, it was kind of yeah, but we didn't really get a full
- 1:33:44sample size, so we'll see McKenzie didn't do the job. The tight end
- 1:33:46twos were not what Dalton Kincaid was. Gabe Davis was banged up, like,
- 1:33:50there was just no consistency in the skill position grew aside from Stefan Diggs.
- 1:33:57So we'll see. We'll see what they can be this year. But
- 1:34:00Hardy's a fun piece. They do have fun pieces. I like the addition
- 1:34:01to Hardy. I like the addition to SuField, I liked Lunkin Kade.
- 1:34:04I'm excited to see what Kalusha Cure can be in year two. I'm excited
- 1:34:08to see what James Cook can be. They have a better they have a
- 1:34:12better skill group. From a dynamic perspective, you have different skill sets,
- 1:34:15different sizes, different frames, different athletic profiles. I think how you put
- 1:34:20everything together, you have a better group this year than you did last year,
- 1:34:26which is good in and of itself in a vacuum. But I think
- 1:34:29it's also good for Ken Dorsey from a schematic perspective, being able to allow
- 1:34:31him to turn different dials up and down and play in different games so or
- 1:34:38play different games with things and press different buttons. Oh, this is awesome.
- 1:34:41Thank you, Sarah, Sarah being here. I appreciate you and for
- 1:34:45the super chat. Sarah says a great show. Thanks, and then she
- 1:34:47says everyone gets the thumbs up. Sarah, you were crushing it in the
- 1:34:49chat. You're always very active in the chat, and I appreciate the hell
- 1:34:55audio. I recognize your name every week and your cool bills icon that I
- 1:34:59like that. It's kind of like Tai Daie a little bit. And then
- 1:35:00it's the dark blue on the light blue. Well done, Sarah. I
- 1:35:04appreciate you shouting out everyone in the chat and being here and the super Chat.
- 1:35:10Thank you very much for that, and I agree with you, Sarah.
- 1:35:12Sarah says, anyone else hoping that Quinn and Williams sits out absolutely or
- 1:35:15I hope he demands a trade to the Buffalo Bills. That would be absolutely
- 1:35:17fantastic. Oh Aiden says, do you think things would have turned out different
- 1:35:21last season if we had retained Beasley? I felt like when we finally used
- 1:35:25him as chemistry was off. When he came back, he was a street
- 1:35:30free agent, he was kind of out of the game, and then he
- 1:35:32came back to the Bills, and despite that, he was still the best
- 1:35:36slot option on this Bills team last year down the stretch. If he had
- 1:35:42been retained, I do think things would have been different because I think he
- 1:35:45would have been in football shape the entire season, and he would have been
- 1:35:47more impactful down the stretch, and I think he would have had more consistency
- 1:35:51throughout the year. So yes, I do think things would have been different.
- 1:35:55Josh Allen trust him, Not that Josh doesn't trust Gabe Davis because he
- 1:36:00does. He said it explicitly and you've seen it in moments or that he
- 1:36:01doesn't trust Diggs or Knox or those guys. But it was different with Cole
- 1:36:05Beasley in it, especially at the vital spot like the slot. How important
- 1:36:09the slot is to this offense, and how good Cole Beasley was in it,
- 1:36:14and more importantly, how good he was with his rapport with Josh Allen.
- 1:36:17Yeah, I just think when he came at the end of the year,
- 1:36:21Yeah, the chemistry wasn't there because the chemistry wasn't there because he hadn't
- 1:36:26been practicing all year. Also, the offense was probably a little different than
- 1:36:30what he had with Dabele. And then on top of all that, I
- 1:36:32just think it took him a little bit to get into game shape because even
- 1:36:34if you're working your ass off and grinding hard, it's different than playing actual
- 1:36:40NFL football and practice it on a regular basis and being in real football shape.
- 1:36:44Even if you're in tremendous like regular shape and you're really fit, it's
- 1:36:47a different beast and a different animal. So that's a piece ak Cash has
- 1:36:53aunt has hardy ever lined up in the backfield, and his career to take
- 1:36:56it like to take handoffs. I think so. I know he's taking the
- 1:37:01ball on like jet motion and he's gotten the ball in like screens and little
- 1:37:06swing passes from orbit. I feel like I've seen him line up in the
- 1:37:10back and take like a handoff from Taysom Hill or being in a read option
- 1:37:15piece. I think so. And if he hasn't, I think he has
- 1:37:16the skill set too. But I'm pretty sure he has. That's a good
- 1:37:21question. Aiden says, was it a contract issue with him? I forget
- 1:37:27why we didn't keep him. I think he didn't want to. I believe
- 1:37:30he didn't want to take a pay cut, and so Brandon being said cool,
- 1:37:34feel free to test the free agent waters and see what you get.
- 1:37:38And then he signed with Tampa. Things didn't work out there. He left
- 1:37:40Tampa and was kind of just chilling and then wanted to come back. They
- 1:37:43wanted him back. But I think that's what happened. But I could be
- 1:37:47wrong, but yeah, I think he didn't want to take a pay cut.
- 1:37:49So I think being in them were like, cool, go test the
- 1:37:53waters which which the Bills are known for. That the Bills are known for,
- 1:37:57this is our price we're not going above this. If you think you
- 1:38:00can do better, cool go. And that's for retaining their own guys and
- 1:38:04for bringing in free agent. They're very much like, hey, this is
- 1:38:08what it is. If you can beat it somewhere else, cool, do
- 1:38:10your thing. God bless and I think that's what happened with Beasley. I
- 1:38:15would have liked him to stay, but alas he left. That's the way
- 1:38:19it is. Speaking of the way it is, we're gonna wind down in
- 1:38:23this episode, I'm throwing up the banner, which says tootles, folks.
- 1:38:26I want to thank everybody for riding with me live on this episode. Before
- 1:38:29before before anybody, Oh, let's stop here, let me go have this
- 1:38:33comment or Thomas says, oh, let me go back. Thomas says aunt
- 1:38:36on a scale of one to ten, my optimism, my optimism for the
- 1:38:40season, like for the Buffalo Bills or for something in particular. I'll let
- 1:38:45you type your answer into the chat as I continue to do. Oh,
- 1:38:47I gotta stop because morning Mine, Morning Mine, you're here pretty much every
- 1:38:51week. I appreciate you for being here consistently ever being here tonight and for
- 1:38:56the super chat. Thank you very much, morning Mine, says, thanks
- 1:38:58for the show. Do you think we can win the Super Bowl this year?
- 1:39:01Absolutely? What. I picked the Bills to win the Super Bowl.
- 1:39:06I would never pick one individual team to win the Super Bowl. I would
- 1:39:10just always take the field, like if the odds. If the option is
- 1:39:13for me to pick one team to win or one of the other thirty one
- 1:39:15teams, I'm just always going to pick one of the other thirty one teams.
- 1:39:17But yes, the Bills are absolutely a Super Bowl contender. The Bills,
- 1:39:19the Chiefs, the Bengals, the Eagles, the forty nine Ers.
- 1:39:25I like the Ravens. I think if the Ravens can stay healthy, they're
- 1:39:28a problem. But more on the lower end at this point, the Chargers
- 1:39:31can be in that conversation. I think the Browns might surprise some people.
- 1:39:36I think the Cowboys potentially could surprise some people. But if I had to
- 1:39:41go with like the real top tier contenders, the Bills are most definitely in
- 1:39:44that conversation. You've got the Chiefs, got the Bengals, You've got the
- 1:39:46Bills, the Niners, and the Eagles. So kind of similar to what
- 1:39:49we saw last year, But the Bills are most definitely in that role.
- 1:39:53The decks the Bills are most definitely in that mix. Yeah, as Sarah
- 1:39:56says, you have the Lions, We'll see what they can be. I
- 1:39:58don't know how high their ceiling is with Jared Goff. We'll see how much
- 1:40:01not having Jamison Williams for the first six games impacts them and how much they
- 1:40:05truly upgraded their defense. But absolutely, the Bills can most definitely win the
- 1:40:10Super Bowl this year. The Bill is gonna win the Super Bowl. Last
- 1:40:11year, things just didn't click for them. I do think I want to
- 1:40:15see how this season progresses because I don't think they've matched up great with certain
- 1:40:21teams come playoff time, like the Bengals last year. I didn't think.
- 1:40:26I didn't think the Bills would beat the Bengals last year in the playoffs,
- 1:40:29and they did not. But I think they do have a better matchup this
- 1:40:30year. We'll see what Sean McDermott brings to the defense. I do think
- 1:40:34there are several questions, And as Thomas says in the Yeah yeah, I
- 1:40:38mean the Jets are gonna be a problem. The Miami's gonna be a problem.
- 1:40:40I think the Jets are gonna be way better than everybody's thinking. I
- 1:40:43know everybody wants to dunk on Aaron Rodgers because he's kind of a jerk and
- 1:40:45is out doing Ayahuascar or whatever, psychedelics and hanging out in holes and caves
- 1:40:49and all that stuff. But this is a team that missed the playoffs by
- 1:40:54like one game last year with horrible quarterback play. Even if Aaron Rodgers is
- 1:40:58just halfway decent and Serve visible and the defense can stay around at the top
- 1:41:01ten, they're an easy playoff team. I think they're gonna be a problem
- 1:41:06as well. But yeah, to answer your question, as I answered other
- 1:41:09questions as well, Yeah, the Bills can absolutely win the Super Bowl this
- 1:41:12year. Absolutely absolutely. Oh and theos Thomas's question on scale one to ten.
- 1:41:16My optimism for the season, It's tough because I'm always paranoid and I
- 1:41:27try to remain objective. I'm gonna say about like a seven, which is
- 1:41:32for me, is really good. I'm gonna say like seven seven and a
- 1:41:34half. Like I think the Chiefs are probably at an eight and a half
- 1:41:38or a nine. I think the Bengals are probably between a seven and a
- 1:41:43eight and probably seven and eight. I'm concerned about their safeties being gone I'm
- 1:41:47gonna put the Bills, you know, cautiously, at about a seven and
- 1:41:49a half or an eight, but I think they could be at a nine.
- 1:41:51I think they're gonna be again. I think they're in that conversation for
- 1:41:55one of the best teams in the league. I think they're in the conversation
- 1:41:58for you know, being in that top tier, super Bowl caliber team.
- 1:42:04You got them, you got the Chiefs, you got the Bengals, you
- 1:42:06got the Niners, you got the Eagles. If the Chargers can stay healthy,
- 1:42:10who knows that the Ravens can stay healthy. Who knows? The AFCs
- 1:42:13is a dog fight. But I am optimistic for this season. We'll see.
- 1:42:18There's just a lot of pieces to connect. We'll see what happens with
- 1:42:20it. That's a good question. So now got some good questions, and
- 1:42:26I got a super chat and that took me away from the two those folks,
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- 1:43:34I appreciate your comment. I'm gonna I normally don't like to bring up
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- 1:43:41of creativity in this one, so I like it. Walter says, great
- 1:43:43show. The Ant and Tree duo is like a real life rocketing group from
- 1:43:46guardings the galaxy one the brains of the operation, and the other being comic
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- 1:43:58Walter. I appreciate that. College. I thank you very much. That
- 1:44:00was very good. Oh and then a question here from Steve before we leave.
- 1:44:03Steve says, what is the biggest improvement the bills have made so far
- 1:44:08in your opinion? Oooh boy, Guard, I think mcgoverned is a significant
- 1:44:16upgrade from Saffold. I think at worst Torrance and Edwards give you really good
- 1:44:21depth. But Torrance can be a starter for you. I'm gonna say Guard
- 1:44:27tight end could be a secondary one, just because I think Kincaide is a
- 1:44:31bigger upgrade than any of the tight ends they had last year. No disrespect
- 1:44:35to Quinn Morris and Tommy Sweeney, but just because of all the moves they
- 1:44:40made on the interior, I think the interior offensive line has been heavily fortified,
- 1:44:44and I think that's the biggest improvement because they've ring enforced it from a
- 1:44:46starter perspective, but also from a depth perspective. I wish they would have
- 1:44:51also done that to the tackle position because I am a bit concerned. Not
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