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- 0:47Thank you. Now here are the hosts of the
- 0:50United We Scan podcast. But yeah, in, in, in my
- 0:53situation, we had, you know, ADR removed.
- 0:57We had another Dr. come in from another district and, you know,
- 1:00they moved her over and she turned around and started labor
- 1:04charges against our district manager.
- 1:07Well, they decided to reschedule or, you know, reallocate her
- 1:13back to her original Dr. territory and brought a new one
- 1:17in. And you know what happened to
- 1:18those labor charges? Not a fucking thing.
- 1:26You know, and that's, that's what we have to look at.
- 1:29We have to look at all the things that need to happen.
- 1:32And this is this is the most interesting part about this.
- 1:36Back in 2024 at Mid States, I had a decent conversation with
- 1:43President Masten and at one point he said why are you so
- 1:48negative about things? I said I'm only negative about
- 1:51negative things going on with this craft.
- 1:53What I'm positive about is that this next contract, we get a
- 1:59$10.00 an hour increase, we get better cost of living
- 2:03adjustments, a little bigger increase into the EMA and we get
- 2:08stronger language to protect carriers from toxic management.
- 2:14His response? That's not going to happen.
- 2:18Well, it needs to happen. Our craft needs somebody to step
- 2:23up, need somebody to show that they actually have the craft's
- 2:29best interest at heart. I don't care what you've done in
- 2:33the past. For now, we can deal with that
- 2:36at the election table. But right now, this very moment,
- 2:42we need somebody who's willing to step up to the table and hit
- 2:48us a home run because we're looking down the barrel of a
- 2:53gun. And that gun is loss of carriers
- 3:03to the point where the rural craft is not sustainable.
- 3:10You're going to have so many people quitting and not enough
- 3:13people coming in that you're not going to be able to cover the
- 3:18routes. So Mastin, step up, get us a
- 3:25decent contract that the carriers can vote for and don't
- 3:30give us the fear mongering of oh, well, we won't get better in
- 3:33arbitration. Either give us a good deal or
- 3:37we'll vote it down just like the city carriers and take our
- 3:40chances in arbitration. Because guess what?
- 3:44I could go into that arbitration room and I guarantee you the
- 3:48arguments I would put forth in front of that arbitrator would
- 3:52get us a better increase than what the city carriers did.
- 3:56Because there is enough information out there on the web
- 4:01through news articles, through documents, the post office posts
- 4:06that we can get the right increases, that we can get
- 4:13benefits that help the craft, and that we can get the
- 4:18protection that we need. You have a ton of documents in
- 4:24your files of grievances the carriers have filed against
- 4:29management for the hostile and toxic work environment that we
- 4:32have, and you could include that in that arbitration to make the
- 4:36language stronger in our grievance policy.
- 4:41You can get us great cost of living adjustments.
- 4:45You can get us a great wage increase if you had the ball to
- 4:49do it. Alexa, stand here and let you
- 5:02question the manliness of our Supreme Leader.
- 5:09Then you do it, Bill. I know I'm not the only one.
- 5:17You mean question his manliness? Question his ability to
- 5:22negotiate. Oh, no, there is none there.
- 5:25There is none whatsoever. You know, we, we, you know,
- 5:32somebody made a comment about him being a force at the, at the
- 5:38contract table. I looked at him and I said, how
- 5:42do you say that with a straight face?
- 5:44I said, because, you know, I nearly shit myself when you said
- 5:47it. You know, you, no, you don't
- 5:50understand that. Yeah, I know I don't understand.
- 5:54But I also know who lobby, who languished in the shadow of
- 5:58everybody else until he just got pushed up to the next chair, to
- 6:02the next chair to the next chair.
- 6:04So please, you know, I, I still have, you know, stories of his
- 6:09representation of people out in California ringing in my ears.
- 6:13So no, don't, don't ever expect me to believe, you know, any
- 6:17type of bullshit in regards to his abilities and skills.
- 6:25You'll, you'll see when, when the tentative agreement comes
- 6:28out for us, you will see. That's all you got to say about
- 6:32that. Yeah, and, and I'm pushing as
- 6:39much as I'm running against Don Mastin here, I am pushing for
- 6:42him to actually fight for a good contract for us because we
- 6:47desperately need it. And and it's.
- 6:51Admirable. Need it.
- 6:52James, it's admirable that you're pushing for him to get a
- 6:55good contract, but if 99% was done as of the last, you know,
- 7:00National Convention we were at and we heard, I heard that
- 7:03directly from a national board member.
- 7:06This is not hearsay. If you're, you're looking at 99%
- 7:11done and, and you suspect probably rightfully so, that's
- 7:15all they were waiting for was to get the percentages that the
- 7:17city carriers would get, then you know, you're, you're pushing
- 7:21a snowflake up the hill in the face of an avalanche because
- 7:25it's already done. It's it's already pre calf.
- 7:30And all you got to do is put your fingers in a wet cement
- 7:33right now and, and write your initials because that's how
- 7:36close the contract is to being done.
- 7:41And there's no way, you know, no way to push him anymore because
- 7:43of the fact those are the only items left for consideration and
- 7:48deliberation between the post office and our union.
- 7:55Recommend you that for saying this, you know that you'd want
- 7:58them to push. But like I said, you're pushing
- 8:01a snowflake uphill against an avalanche.
- 8:04I have to because I want what's best for the royal craft, and
- 8:12what's best for the royal craft is for the current president and
- 8:16the rest of the national board to do what is necessary to get
- 8:25us a deserved contract that benefits the craft.
- 8:31They've done enough to screw over the craft in the last
- 8:35couple years. Now it's time for them to fix
- 8:38some of that with a good contract.
- 8:42You know Rex screwed over the carriers when they allowed
- 8:46management to implement it without doing counts.
- 8:49Before that they screwed over the craft with the MOU making
- 8:53them pay back management for the first time I've ever heard of.
- 9:00But at the end of the day, the most important thing to me is my
- 9:08fellow brother and sister. Rural carriers get a fair
- 9:13contract for Fair Work. You know, we get, we get very
- 9:35emotional about this. You know, I, I am personally
- 9:39livid over what happened to the city carriers because those are
- 9:43our brothers and sisters of the craft, too.
- 9:47They're out there doing the same job.
- 9:48We are delivering the mail every single day.
- 9:54No matter what's going on in the country, no matter what's going
- 9:59on in management, no matter what's going on at the top of
- 10:02the union, they're still out there doing their job and we're
- 10:12at a precipice these crafts. And I'm going to just throw this
- 10:19out there, but if our NRLCA board gets us a contract that is
- 10:28ripple what the NALC got, I got Dimes to Donuts that says that
- 10:35the city carriers will want to join the NRLCA, They'll want to
- 10:39merge the NALC into the NRLCA because they will want what we
- 10:46have. They will want the evaluation
- 10:49and the ability to not have to work other routes with forced
- 10:54overtime. On top of that, with that
- 11:00tripling of what the city carriers got.
- 11:04That would put us right in line with inflation.
- 11:09That would put us in a position to have enough Subs coming on
- 11:14because they will see this as a fruitful job again.
- 11:18One where they can actually live off the RCA income if they
- 11:22wanted to if they worked hard enough.
- 11:27One where rural carriers can't afford to pay their bills and
- 11:32some can stop sleeping in their cars and using Planet Fitness
- 11:35for showers. Yeah, that that would almost be
- 11:43funny if it wasn't true. Unfortunately, unfortunately,
- 11:51yeah. Our CDs on food stamps.
- 11:53Yeah, Regular carriers on food stamps or WIC because they can't
- 11:57afford to feed their family on the wages that they're earning.
- 12:01You know, the house prices in just my area alone, houses
- 12:06doubled in value, rental places doubled in rent, some tripled.
- 12:15Yet our wages didn't match that. Our contract doesn't match that.
- 12:23Why we're like. We're like the lady on on Table
- 12:262, James, the one that qualified for a low income housing grant,
- 12:31the career carrier on Table 2. Yeah, yeah.
- 12:39And and that's, that's that's exactly the problem.
- 12:43The rural craft, the city craft, all the postal jobs.
- 12:48In the 1970s, when the Wildcat strike happened, they were
- 12:53fighting the exact same thing we have now.
- 12:59They were fighting low wages, terrible working conditions, no
- 13:06benefits, and they fought for it.
- 13:11And it's time for our craft to fight.
- 13:14No, I'm not calling for a strike.
- 13:16I'm not calling for a Wildcat. I'm not calling for that because
- 13:20that is illegal and I must insist it is illegal and will
- 13:28result in termination and blacklist from federal
- 13:32employment per the law. But I'm just comparing the same
- 13:40situations that happened back then to today.
- 13:43We have carriers that believe their unions are not working for
- 13:47them. They have carriers out there who
- 13:53don't trust their stewards to have their best interest because
- 13:56the steward comes in their office, goes into management's
- 13:59office and is John and laughing with management.
- 14:04That's somebody that just messaged me yesterday told me
- 14:06that their steward went in there was John and laughing with
- 14:09management came out and said the agreements was settled for
- 14:11language when it was a escalated remedy case because it was a
- 14:21failure to comply but. Can you imagine the language
- 14:25they would have heard from me if they came out and told me that?
- 14:32This is the battle that we're we're in now and it's time for
- 14:36our rural carriers to suit up. It's time for us to get in this
- 14:42union. It's time for us to fight for
- 14:45this union. It's time for us to fight for
- 14:46our brothers and sisters. There are a lot of brothers and
- 14:50sisters that will not step up to fight and a lot of people will
- 14:54pull their dues. But I'm telling you that's a
- 14:56mistake because the one thing we have that unites us all is the
- 15:03ability to use our voice and fight with our vote.
- 15:09And our vote matters, especially when it comes to who is leading
- 15:13us. When we vote for delegates for
- 15:17National Convention, we vote for people who we want to walk up
- 15:23into National Convention and vote for our President, Vice
- 15:28President, Secretary, Treasurer, Director of Labor Relations,
- 15:31director of Stewart Operations and our four year executive
- 15:34committeeman. That also allows us to pass
- 15:42resolutions that would go into the next contract we have.
- 15:48And I know Don Mastin said that he takes 20 to 30 resolutions,
- 15:52closer to 20 when he goes into contract negotiations.
- 15:57And that's wrong too, especially when you pass 203 hundred
- 16:05resolutions, a National Convention.
- 16:09Think about those numbers. You know what's disturbing about
- 16:13that, James, is that Don specifically stood there on
- 16:17stage and told us as soon as one contract is signed and and voted
- 16:23on that they start working on the next contract.
- 16:27Well, where are all those constitutional amendments that
- 16:31we put in, all those resolutions that we've submitted?
- 16:34Why aren't those being injected into the talk for the next
- 16:39contract? That way you wouldn't have to
- 16:41spend, you know, so little time on 20 or 30 of them.
- 16:45You'd have the time to start doing them right away and get a
- 16:48hundred 150 of them in there. Mm, hmm.
- 16:53And that's your negotiating, that's your negotiating chips.
- 16:57Your resolutions are your negotiating chips that you use
- 17:00to try and get MIT the best contract possible for your
- 17:04carriers. And I call them your carriers
- 17:08because when you are the leader, you are responsible for your
- 17:12craft, You're responsible for getting them the best deal
- 17:18possible, no matter what management says.
- 17:23So manage. So let's take some random
- 17:26resolution from last year and we'll go with the resolution
- 17:31mine that was passed the 2080 hours or two years to make an
- 17:36RCAA career RCA. There were four other
- 17:39resolutions that were similar to mine and there were better ones
- 17:45and there were worse ones. So you take all of those, you
- 17:50don't show management all of those, but you take the best one
- 17:53to management. Management doesn't like it.
- 17:57OK, we'll renegotiate. What do you say for that
- 18:00position on the contract? And they bring back something
- 18:03that's garbage. So you turn around, you bring
- 18:05your second best one to them. It's called negotiating.
- 18:10It's something that you do in these contract negotiations.
- 18:13You don't just roll over and give them 1.31.4 and 1.5 in a
- 18:19settlement with an arbitrator because they rejected the TA
- 18:22that you argued for it by yourself.
- 18:26But you've got to argue for the best of the craft, and I just
- 18:33feel like nobody's arguing for the best of their craft at this
- 18:36point because they've spent too much time away from working with
- 18:41the craft. They don't come out to these
- 18:47offices and see what's actually going down at St. level.
- 18:52They don't talk to regular Joe carriers.
- 18:57They need to come out here. They need to come see what's
- 19:01going on. They need to talk with carriers
- 19:04at these offices because these carriers that are working six
- 19:07days a week, 12141619 hours a day.
- 19:12And yes, I've talked to a carrier who works 19 hours a day
- 19:15because there's no relief and he's the regular carrier running
- 19:18the route. Those are the carriers our
- 19:22national board should be talking to, not the people who actually
- 19:27can afford to take the time off to go to these regional
- 19:30conferences, because those are the carriers that are hurt the
- 19:35most by these contract negotiations.
- 19:38Yes, every carrier's hurt by these contract negotiations if
- 19:42they're terrible. But the carriers who have to
- 19:46cover for the people who have been fired or quit because of
- 19:51the BS that you've pulled up at National, those are the carriers
- 19:58that that have the most pain going on.
- 20:02And a injury to 1 carrier is an injury to all carriers.
- 20:12Go ahead, Bill. No, I'm saving, I'm saving the
- 20:17comment for the closing remarks. I'll throw it in here now.
- 20:20OK, what the hell? No, you know, in regards to the
- 20:26delegate and and and this is this is the most important
- 20:29factor of it because of the fact that we all know how many of the
- 20:33retirees go to these damn conventions for a free vacation.
- 20:37Anybody says any different except for, you know, the
- 20:40majority of them. Yeah, there's very few retirees
- 20:43that have active participation in the best interest of our
- 20:48craft. But most of them, like I said,
- 20:52you know, they're on, they get a paid vacation.
- 20:54You know, I just sit there and laugh because this falls on to
- 21:00our listeners and our listeners, you have to, you know, let your
- 21:03carriers in your office also know that you stop, stop voting
- 21:07for these people that do not represent your interests, who
- 21:12don't have your best interests at heart for themselves because
- 21:16of the fact that, oh, they're in ADR, they're in the NSS or
- 21:20they're, they're, they're your state with your president or
- 21:23your vice president or secretary treasurer.
- 21:26You know, like I said in, in, in so many cases, Pennsylvania is
- 21:31so reflective of what the national board is that it, it
- 21:37just has made me sick. And for years people say, oh,
- 21:40Bill, get on this state board, get on the state board.
- 21:42You know, no, for, for the same reason.
- 21:47I, I, I took a early retirement, you know, for myself in, in
- 21:51regards to, you know, my physical mental well-being
- 21:55because of the fact I was ready to commit violence because of
- 22:00the atmosphere in my office. OK.
- 22:02It it the same way Pennsylvania is, like I said, it's a mirror
- 22:06image of the national, you know, delegates and the national
- 22:10boards in regards to the politics.
- 22:12We, we, we currently have a situation that is just, it makes
- 22:16me sick. I won't discuss it in open
- 22:18public, but the fact of the matter is it makes me sick.
- 22:22These people are more interested in the gossip, the bullshit, the
- 22:26pettiness, the politics. And you know what, the number
- 22:30one thing of all these people is don't want to run their routes.
- 22:36What the hell, you know, are you here to serve the craft?
- 22:41Are you here to serve your own interests?
- 22:45You know, explain that to me. So everybody that listens and
- 22:49everybody that listens to this podcast through the week, please
- 22:52inform your other carriers, you know, that are union members who
- 22:55can vote for the delegates to submit names of people who
- 22:59represent your interests, not the people who are out there
- 23:04collecting a full time paycheck off of the national board,
- 23:08Whether there be, you know, the NSS or not, people lying to your
- 23:13views, your interests, and, you know, really express a desire to
- 23:19serve the craft. Because most of these people
- 23:23that I know, OK, and and I can go into very great detail about
- 23:29it. I won't, don't want to deliver
- 23:33their routes and that's not serving the best interests of
- 23:39the crafts, that's serving their own interests first.
- 23:44And you have a 20 plus year Dr. who turned around and was
- 23:51released from his obligations, went back to his route for one
- 23:57day and then turned around, took four days of elwop and then
- 24:01retired because he was physically unable to perform the
- 24:07craft, the duties of a royal craft.
- 24:13So what does that tell you? The only reason he was in that
- 24:15position was not to do his route.
- 24:21I just, you know, like I said, look for people willing to serve
- 24:24you. James knows my situation.
- 24:28I don't need the money, you know, running for president or
- 24:30vice president or anything. But the fact of the matter is,
- 24:34here I am. So, you know, retired,
- 24:36officially retired. I may come back as an ARC, but
- 24:39the thing of it is that, you know, I'm still putting in the
- 24:42effort. I'm still taking phone calls.
- 24:44I'm still, you know, advising people in my office and other
- 24:48offices. But the thing of it is that,
- 24:51folks, if you don't get the right people going to the
- 24:55National Convention, you won't have the delegates voting for
- 24:59the change that we need. And we need a change
- 25:02desperately. Been saying it for for four
- 25:04years and it is no more evident than it than it was back then as
- 25:08it is now. He need change.
- 25:12And when this contract comes out, just like Renfro, God help
- 25:17you if you show your face anywhere, John Matson, because
- 25:20you know, nobody can guarantee for, for the way we're being
- 25:24treated, what we're being paid compensation package that you're
- 25:29all talking about. No, no, it's unacceptable. 1.3%
- 25:36for an RCA is going to represent a little over $0.28 an hour,
- 25:45$0.28 an hour? Come on folks, now you're going
- 25:54to be making what, $20.56? Sixty, 666 cents instead of
- 25:592038? Come on now.
- 26:05Is that a living wage? No.
- 26:08Nope. So, you know, either shit or
- 26:14shit or get off the pot, because we've got to do this.
- 26:23And that's the thing, I'm putting a call out there.
- 26:28We have on our Discord server the breakdown of states for
- 26:35national delegate. On my page, James Brennan for
- 26:39Inter LCA President, there is a post where I break down all the
- 26:43states for delegates. If you are a delegate that wants
- 26:47to make a difference for this craft, get on there, Put your
- 26:50name in there, get people to recognize you from your state.
- 26:55Because we need delegates that want this craft to be better,
- 27:00want this craft to be stronger, want this craft to have leaders
- 27:06instead of board members. We need you.
- 27:14We need people to join this union.
- 27:18Pay dues to this union to vote to make the difference.
- 27:23And I know there are a lot of people that are going to be
- 27:25like, I don't don't want to give my money to the current board.
- 27:30You're not giving your money to the current board.
- 27:33You're turning around and going to make a difference for the
- 27:36craft by doing that. That is what we need at this
- 27:42point. We need more people in this
- 27:44union to outweigh the votes of the current regime, and we need
- 27:51people to vote when we're talking 1015% of the voting
- 27:58membership, making all the choices for the craft.
- 28:02We're not lying. That is how many people vote for
- 28:06their delegations, 10 to 15%. When people voted for the new
- 28:12contract, what was it? 18% voted for it.
- 28:18She is under 20%, yeah. We need to make a change.
- 28:23We need to double, triple the number of people involved in
- 28:26that to make a difference. To make change, you need to be
- 28:33involved, you need to understand what's going on and you need to
- 28:37be part of the union. And I know a lot of people find
- 28:41that off putting, but membership with this union is the only way
- 28:47we're going to make change in this union.
- 28:51And I know a lot of people are disheartened, a lot of people
- 28:54are disenfranchised. A lot of people are angry at the
- 28:57union. And you have every right to be
- 29:02for your situation. But think about your brothers
- 29:06and sisters in this craft. Think about what they're going
- 29:09through to the same stuff you're going through.
- 29:12And without that right to vote, you can't change it.
- 29:19All you can do is complain on social media.
- 29:22You can put bad comments on posts and then send messages to
- 29:26people begging for help. And I don't care if you put
- 29:34people down on Facebook for things and then turn around and
- 29:37beg for help. Because I'm going to help you
- 29:40either way. Because every member of this
- 29:45craft deserves help, every member of this craft deserves a
- 29:51place to vent, and every member of this craft deserves to have
- 29:56somebody listen to them. Change is on the horizon.
- 30:05It can't get here soon enough. But the good news is ours comes
- 30:10up in August. August National Convention.
- 30:14We can vote in new leaders. City carriers have to wait until
- 30:212026. We can do this now.
- 30:29You don't know. What I think that people fail to
- 30:32realize, James, is that whether you're in the union or not, what
- 30:37happens at the National Convention effects all of you.
- 30:42If you're paying dues or not. Every, every decision they make
- 30:45effects every one of you. The only way you can affect
- 30:50change is if you're part of the union, if you're part of the
- 30:54effort to make that change, to have a voice.
- 30:58It's the same way with people who vote or choose not to vote,
- 31:02or don't even register to vote. If you don't exercise that
- 31:07right, then in my opinion, you have no right to bitch about
- 31:14your elected officials, whether they be political or union,
- 31:18because you've chosen to sit on the sidelines and let everybody
- 31:23else, you know, deal with the grief, deal with the situations,
- 31:27pay their dues. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm one of those
- 31:33adamant people that, you know, if you don't vote, you know, I,
- 31:36I really don't want to be associated with you in regards
- 31:41to the general political elections because of the
- 31:44millions of people who have sacrificed their lives since the
- 31:48days of the Revolutionary War for our freedoms, for our right
- 31:55that you do not participate in. And it, and it's a shame.
- 32:00It, it, it's to me it, it's this most sincerest form of blasphemy
- 32:06where, you know, people in Iraq when they were first voting,
- 32:11they had to get their thumbs dipped into a purple dye that
- 32:15shows they voted here are these, you know, ISIS and Islamic
- 32:20radicals out there chopping their thumbs off.
- 32:24But they were willing to put their lives at risk to vote for
- 32:29a government. And it was like the first time
- 32:34in years that they could vote without having, you know,
- 32:36absolute corruption dictate the results.
- 32:43That's just me. I mean, you know, I'm a little
- 32:47overboard in regards to the, you know, your your rights and
- 32:50responsibilities and you have the right not to vote.
- 32:54But just like the people who go on to the rural carriers, you
- 32:57know, Facebook pages, RC as and every other page and put
- 33:02anonymous memory and and then, you know, make comments.
- 33:06I saw one yesterday where the announced manager said I'm not
- 33:09going to bother, you know, posting any more questions here
- 33:11because the way I'm getting treated, why are you treating
- 33:14these people that way? Sure, there are people who are
- 33:17sitting there asking questions that the majority of us know the
- 33:22answers to. So then you have the select few
- 33:25to turn around and pick on them for not knowing the answers.
- 33:28They don't know that person's situation.
- 33:31They don't know if they're in RCA.
- 33:32They don't know if they're a new regular and don't understand the
- 33:35benefits or they don't understand the seniority charts
- 33:39or the work they relief lift. Instead of being so negative,
- 33:43instead of being so petty, help them.
- 33:48Don't drive them into the ground.
- 33:49Don't drive them to the to the point where they say, well I'm
- 33:52not even going to bother asking anymore because you know it is
- 33:56brief fee of service. It doesn't cost you anything to
- 34:00be nice. I'm going to piggyback on that.
- 34:06You know, there is no such thing as a stupid question, but there
- 34:13are, there is stupid answers. No, there's nothing.
- 34:18All. Right, you got me with that one.
- 34:24But as long as the person's intention of asking the question
- 34:30is honest and truthful that they want to know the answer to, then
- 34:36there is no stupid question. Now, I'm guilty of asking
- 34:39questions that I already know the answer to because that's how
- 34:45my brain works to get people to learn.
- 34:48I ask them questions that help them to understand what's going
- 34:52on, or I'm asking questions to get the truth out of somebody
- 34:57John won't name name. Most of the time when I'm
- 35:03talking with somebody that I want to get the truth out of,
- 35:07I'm going to ask them questions that I already know the answer
- 35:09to to see how they roll. Because guess what?
- 35:14Management would rather climb a tree to lie than stand on the
- 35:17ground to tell the truth. And if anybody is lying to me,
- 35:22they might as well be management.
- 35:25And they know who they are that have lied to me.
- 35:31And we can argue all day long back and forth about what means
- 35:34this, what means that, so on and so forth versus ambiguous
- 35:38language versus black and white. You know, mistakes can be made.
- 35:42We're only human, but when your only claim to the problem is a
- 35:48single word, you're doing it out of malice instead of out of
- 35:59help. We need to be together now more
- 36:07than ever. Whether you like what I do or
- 36:11don't, whether you like what Don Mastin does or doesn't right
- 36:15now, this craft on the streets, the carriers working their
- 36:19routes every single day need to be united for a great contract
- 36:26that we need so desperately. And if we don't get it, we need
- 36:31to hold those who gave it to us accountable.
- 36:36Just like I asked people to hold me accountable.
- 36:39We need to hold our national board accountable.
- 36:42We need to hold our delegates accountable for this, just like
- 36:48I said this. The executive council of the
- 36:50NALC needs to be held accountable for this modified
- 36:56contract that they negotiated at the arbitrator table.
- 37:03But we need to do something. We need to stand for something.
- 37:10Because if you stand for nothing, you don't.
- 37:14If you don't stand at all, you stand for nothing.
- 37:19And as somebody just said, accountability starts with
- 37:22yourself. Ask yourself, is what I'm doing
- 37:27benefiting the craft? Is me not filing agreements
- 37:33against management doing this benefiting the craft?
- 37:39Is me working off the clock before my shift starts so I can
- 37:44get home earlier benefiting the craft?
- 37:53These are the questions you need to ask yourself right off the
- 37:56bat. Everything you do when it comes
- 38:01to dealing with management, when it comes to voting for this
- 38:05union, when it comes to speaking about this union, is what you're
- 38:13doing benefiting the Craft as a whole Because you are just one
- 38:21of over 100,000 craft members. But when those 100 + 1000 Craft
- 38:31members get together with one voice.
- 38:35They have the. Power to make a difference.
- 38:41You have the chance. To benefit this craft by
- 38:45stepping up and doing something about it.
- 38:49If you are a non deuce payer, becoming a deuce payer is a
- 38:53chance to make a difference. If you are a deuce payer, voting
- 38:58is a chance to make a difference.
- 39:01Becoming a delegate nominee is a chance to make a difference,
- 39:08becoming a delegate is a chance to make a difference, and voting
- 39:12at National Convention is a chance to make a difference.
- 39:18We don't have the option. To remain silent anymore, we
- 39:23don't have the option to sit back and watch what happens.
- 39:28Now is the time to. Stand up.
- 39:31Now is the time to voice, grieve, fight for your wage,
- 39:37your rights, your benefits. Because if you sit in.
- 39:43Silence. You stand for nothing.
- 39:49Phil, give us your final. Thoughts.
- 39:53Final thoughts. I don't know.
- 39:56Listen to. Me comment on Mr. Johnson's
- 39:59comment about no overhead if you live with mom and dad, not
- 40:02everybody has that opportunity there.
- 40:05But if you want to be that type of asshole, you know, I commend
- 40:09your remarks. The the, the, the gist of this
- 40:15contract that the city carriers are now being forced to accept
- 40:22is that. There's no way in hell that I
- 40:25see any what room for improvement from our end because
- 40:29of the lack of leadership for the last 4-5 years that we've
- 40:34had from our national board. OK.
- 40:37And it's it's it's a shame to say that, but I'm just being
- 40:42realistic. The people have moved up the up
- 40:47the ladder, you know, just switching chairs are all the
- 40:49same mold and nobody has really gotten us anything decent.
- 40:55I think the last decent contract was, you know, maybe Judge the
- 40:58one Jeanette got, the first one she had for us, but.
- 41:03Like I said, you know. You're, you're looking at
- 41:05approximately, you know, 2628 cents increase at 1.3.
- 41:16You know. I I it.
- 41:19Breaks my heart it does. So, you know, God bless you all.
- 41:25You know, I can pray all I want for, you know, a better
- 41:28contract. But you know, like I said, me
- 41:30being realistic, I'm not going to expect much.
- 41:34And I feel for all of you. I mean, you're out there putting
- 41:38your lives on the line every time you go out on your routes
- 41:42and you know, some more than others in regards to the
- 41:45conditions that they're driving in.
- 41:49You're you're dealing with hostile work environment, you
- 41:51toxic management. You know, you, you've got people
- 41:55in your office that they couldn't give to rats ass.
- 41:58They they just want to get their route done and go home.
- 42:01And you know, it's in our craft and in city crafts that you have
- 42:04individuals like that. But the fact of the matter is
- 42:07that everything that happens to one of us happens to all of us.
- 42:15And we? Have to guard against that
- 42:17complacency of saying, well it doesn't really bother me.
- 42:23Everything. Affects us if somebody is
- 42:26working off the clock. Time standards will get changed.
- 42:30Again. And then it'll affect you.
- 42:32And then then you might have a problem with that person who's
- 42:35working off the clock, OK, Somebody who's doing favors for
- 42:39management because they're friends and, you know, a sub's
- 42:42not getting any hours or, you know, somebody who volunteers to
- 42:45help isn't getting paid. That will affect you because the
- 42:49postal post office that you're in, their operational costs have
- 42:53dropped and they'll be sitting there going, well, we don't need
- 42:55any more carriers or we don't need any more Subs.
- 42:58My situation, you know, our office is going to be out of
- 43:01Subs in 45 days, Yeah. The the other lady said. 17
- 43:06routes in her office and no Subs. 57 Route Office 4 Subs.
- 43:13How the hell are you? Going to survive working six
- 43:16days a week for six months at a time and then.
- 43:20Have your paycheck changed? Again.
- 43:25It's a. It's a.
- 43:26It's. A vicious cycle and we have to
- 43:29get out of it and we have. To do that.
- 43:33By changing our representatives to change your.
- 43:37State representatives. Get rid of the old folkies are
- 43:39up there and was sitting there and don't want to, you know,
- 43:42carry their routes. Get rid of the other people in
- 43:45the NSS that aren't doing anything.
- 43:47And we've had several of them in in my area that been removed,
- 43:512AD, Rs and ADR. So you know it is possible for
- 43:56these things to happen. I fear for the fact.
- 44:01That somewhere down the line that Don is going to still.
- 44:08Run for president. Irregardless of having the
- 44:11contract signed or not. In hopes of being able.
- 44:15To hand off the presidency to somebody else instead of games.
- 44:22That that will be a. Critical mistake because the
- 44:25only other person is qualified to to actually occupy that
- 44:29position. It's only been in their new
- 44:32position for a year and they they need to do a lot more work
- 44:37and that individual's qualified to do that work, but.
- 44:41I won't mind mention John. Adams by name.
- 44:45He needs to stay in that position.
- 44:47Because he's getting some stuff done.
- 44:50Leadership does not have to do anything more than lead by
- 44:56example. They don't.
- 44:59Have to know everything. They don't.
- 45:01Have to be everything. That's why you have subordinate
- 45:05but they. Have to be a.
- 45:07Leader and we haven't had one in years and we're due for some
- 45:13real leadership. Not going to be myself this
- 45:16year. It may.
- 45:18Be James, but no matter who. It steps up.
- 45:24We need real leadership, and that depends.
- 45:28On you. Getting the right people
- 45:30selected as delegates sent to national electing the person
- 45:36that's qualified to represent the craft.
- 45:40Not best qualified because they've worked their way up the
- 45:43board for 20 years. Not best qualified because they
- 45:45haven't carried a route in 20 years.
- 45:48The best qualified to represent the craft and the best person to
- 45:53represent the craft is somebody in the craft.
- 45:58And don't ever. Ever come to me and say Oh well
- 46:03I've been a rule craft member for 30 years?
- 46:05Yes, but for 25 of them you haven't carried around, or for
- 46:1018 of them you haven't carried around.
- 46:12You don't know Jack's shit about what our craft goes through, so
- 46:18therefore you're not qualified to speak on behalf of the craft.
- 46:25Now here we. Are again, we're you know, we're
- 46:27doing this podcast, we're doing it for free, we're doing it on
- 46:30our time and we appreciate everybody listening.
- 46:33The fact of the matter is. We are the only ones.
- 46:38That can change the direction of this Union and I hope.
- 46:42You take that to heart. I hope you take it back to your
- 46:44offices and talk it up and you get people involved to the point
- 46:49where we get more qualified delegates going to the National
- 46:55Convention who have our interests at heart, not.
- 47:00Their interests of being. Off their routes their.
- 47:03Interest doing, you know you. Know special committees to
- 47:06Washington, DC, but have our interests at heart as.
- 47:12Always, everybody go. Out there and do your jobs.
- 47:15Do it professionally. Do it, you know, efficiently.
- 47:18Do it safely and make sure you get home to your loved ones
- 47:22because you are the most important delivery of the day.
- 47:26Games last words, You know you're right.
- 47:32We are the craft, the. Two of us here.
- 47:37Are the craft bill Bill is still actively working with the craft
- 47:43and. We do do this on.
- 47:45Our own time, on our own dime. Why?
- 47:48Because we believe the craft is the most important part of the
- 47:54NRLCA. The craft is the only thing our
- 48:01national board should be concerned about.
- 48:03They shouldn't be concerned about the financial position of
- 48:07the Postal Service, the postal. Service has been in dire.
- 48:11Straits for decades, the Postal Service has only shown a profit
- 48:17in a few years. We need to be worried.
- 48:23About the financial position of the rural carriers.
- 48:31And we need. The president, the vice
- 48:35president and everybody else on that board to think about the
- 48:40rural carrier in the middle of nowhere, Tennessee, Nebraska,
- 48:47Wyoming, everywhere. Not just the ones in suburban
- 48:52places like Detroit, Lansing, NY, Westchester, places like
- 49:02that. We are all rural carriers.
- 49:05You need to think of them all. You need to think about the
- 49:08carrier that's on the 1 1/2 mile route, as well as the carrier on
- 49:13the 150 mile route. The one that does.
- 49:16All paved. Roads with mounted versus the
- 49:20carrier on all dirt roads and mounted or the carrier on paved
- 49:24roads with CB US. Every single rural carrier
- 49:29matters. Every single rural carrier
- 49:33deserves a national board that stands up for them, fights for
- 49:38them, and does everything in the best interest of the rural
- 49:45carrier. Because the rural carrier.
- 49:50Dues pay their salary. The rural carrier dues pay for
- 49:59the conferences. The rural.
- 50:02Carrier dues. Pay for every single member of
- 50:08the National Steward System except the local office steward,
- 50:17and that is the people they should be answering to, not
- 50:23capitulating to management's whims and management's threats
- 50:28like telling them if carriers don't pay back the post office,
- 50:31they're going to cut their routes a second time when they
- 50:34could barely manage to cut the routes in the first time.
- 50:42The carriers matter. Their.
- 50:46Lives. Matter.
- 50:50And a contract coming. Out like the city carriers.
- 50:56That's a death sentence. To some carriers.
- 51:03That's a death sentence. To rural offices that can't get
- 51:08help because you can't pay them enough to deliver the mail with
- 51:13the management that's in that office.
- 51:19The carriers are talking. And we know you're listening.
- 51:26We know you're listening to this podcast because.
- 51:30I've you've talked about. Stuff we've said on this
- 51:33podcast. So we know you're paying.
- 51:37Attention. But the question is, is are you
- 51:40going to take what we say and actually put it to use?
- 51:48To the carriers out there. I'm listening my social.
- 51:53Media comments are. Open My messages are open.
- 51:59I'm here for you at James Brennan for NRLCA president on
- 52:03Facebook if. You need somebody to talk.
- 52:07To if you need help, you need something.
- 52:12Reach out and if you want. To help.
- 52:16Reach out, let me know what you want to help me with I'm.
- 52:21Available. I have it open. 24/7 The only
- 52:24time I don't answer is when I'm actively delivering or when I'm
- 52:28sleeping. I do not.
- 52:34Let carriers slip through the cracks.
- 52:37I'm here for you. I'm here for the craft.
- 52:42Because at. The end of the day.
- 52:45We're all in this together. We'll.
- 52:48Be back next Sunday for. Everybody hopefully with no
- 52:53recording issues and we'll see you then.
- 52:57Bye bye.