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Best Betting Show Ever | 49ers vs Rams Preview, CFB Week 2 Bets, MLB Picks, Parlay & More! · Best Betting Show Ever

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  Speaker 1: The L.A.
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  Speaker 2: Rams in Melbourne playing the San Francisco 49ers.
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  Speaker 3: They happen to be there, too.
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  Speaker 2: The line is minus three and a half.
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  Speaker 3: The total, 48.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take that game apart right now. Welcome, everybody,
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  Speaker 2: to the best betting show ever. I'm Lawrence Presman, Joe Ranieri,
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  Speaker 2: and Art DeCesar. We got a big show, tons of information.
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  Speaker 2: But right off the bat, Joe Ranieri, let's talk San
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  Speaker 2: Fran and L.A., Let's start with the total.
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  Speaker 3: It's 48.
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  Speaker 2: We saw last night between Seattle and New England, both
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  Speaker 2: offenses really struggled out of the gate. They did get
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  Speaker 2: it going a little bit in the second half. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Drew Luck affected the game, but there was an out
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  Speaker 2: of syncness clearly last night. Are you looking to an
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  Speaker 2: under or an over here?
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  Speaker 4: I tend to think that, and it's worked pretty well early. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: last night, I didn't think we were going to get
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  Speaker 4: a ton of points in that game. And I certainly
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  Speaker 4: didn't think we were going to get 22 of them
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  Speaker 4: in the first half there. I kind of think we're
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  Speaker 4: going to get some points early in this one, though.
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  Speaker 4: I think the points come early. I'm looking more towards
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  Speaker 4: the first half in this one, Prez, because the Rams
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  Speaker 4: have been here and they have done this. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they just landed yesterday or today. I don't even know
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  Speaker 4: what the hell day it is there. But, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they sent. Their trainers over the last two years, they've
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  Speaker 4: been sending employees there to try to figure out what
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  Speaker 4: the best way with the body clock and everything else
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  Speaker 4: is to play this damn game.
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  Speaker 1: And who am I to argue?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the guy's 3-0 here, I think, McVay, in
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  Speaker 4: these international games. And they average a boatload of points, too.
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  Speaker 4: So I think the points are going to come early
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  Speaker 4: in this one. Plus, Bosa's not 100% yet. That defense
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  Speaker 4: of the 49ers, still some question marks there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Myles.
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  Speaker 2: Garrett is definitely going to get only better in that system.
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  Speaker 3: And Aaron Donald, you know, who knows what.
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  Speaker 2: You can expect from him. A ton of offensive talent
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  Speaker 2: on the field.
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  Speaker 3: That's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Joe, we look at, I'll go to you, Art.
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  Speaker 2: We now have got more money coming in on the Rams. Literally,
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  Speaker 2: as we're speaking, we got our first four up at MGM.
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  Speaker 2: We got more money coming in everywhere. It really feels
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  Speaker 2: like the Rams are taking the bulk of the action.
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  Speaker 2: 68% of the tickets have been written on the Rams
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  Speaker 2: so far. Are you with them? Do you like the
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  Speaker 2: Rams here at minus three and a half, minus four?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think initially when everyone looked at it,
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  Speaker 5: once again, these numbers have been out for a while, right?
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  Speaker 5: I think it was like, okay, we're all going to
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  Speaker 5: take the Rams. And then I think when it settled down,
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  Speaker 5: the Niner money came in. And now every show you
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  Speaker 5: listen to, everyone, all these pundits, everyone is Niners, Niners, Niners.
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  Speaker 5: Now it feels like, okay, the people have settled in
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  Speaker 5: and said, wait, hold on. The Rams are way better.
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  Speaker 5: This is a better team.
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  Speaker 1: Not way better.
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  Speaker 5: I know the Niners are good, but it feels like
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  Speaker 5: the Rams is the right side. You hate to lay
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  Speaker 5: three and a half or four in a division game,
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  Speaker 5: but I think when push comes to shove, it will
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  Speaker 5: be a tight game early, and I think the Rams
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  Speaker 5: will pull away, win between seven and ten points, lay
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  Speaker 5: the points with the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, I'm going to give you a prop bet. Tell
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  Speaker 3: me what you think.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think Brock Purdy over 250 at plus
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  Speaker 2: 104 is a good bet to me. I think the
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  Speaker 2: Rams are going to be a tough team to run against.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that this game there's going to be
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  Speaker 2: points scored.
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  Speaker 3: So I like.
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  Speaker 2: Over 250 for Brock Purdy in passing yards.
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  Speaker 3: Joe, any thoughts there?
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  Speaker 4: I think they're going to have to throw the ball
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  Speaker 4: because I don't think they're going to have to run.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the running is going to be there,
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  Speaker 4: not to mention McCaffrey. I think he's more dangerous out
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  Speaker 4: of the backfield. I think he's more dangerous catching passes
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  Speaker 4: out of the backfield than he is a runner at
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  Speaker 4: this point in his career. So it was a down
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  Speaker 4: year of him running the ball last year. I think, listen,
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  Speaker 4: Purdy with Kirk and Evans now. We have to see.
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  Speaker 4: Is Evans still a half a step slow?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: But Kirk, I think, can be the X factor here
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  Speaker 4: because– He had a down year, but C.J. Straub was
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  Speaker 4: his quarterback last year in Houston, so he wasn't going
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  Speaker 4: to light up the world.
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  Speaker 1: He might have some chances to do some damage this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I like your point. Sorry, Art. Go ahead, yes.
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  Speaker 5: To stick with the props, and we're talking about passing,
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  Speaker 5: and Joe just mentioned McCaffrey, over four and a half
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  Speaker 5: catches for McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, I like that, too.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to see a lot of sort of wheel
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  Speaker 3: routes with him this year, don't you think?
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  Speaker 6: A bunch of that.
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  Speaker 3: And he's going to break it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm with you there. Okay, so Joe likes
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  Speaker 2: the over first half. He thinks there's going to be scoring.
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  Speaker 2: I like Brock Purdy over 250 plus passing yards.
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  Speaker 3: And Art, you lean on the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right?
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  Speaker 6: I lean on the Rams. And like I said, I
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  Speaker 6: really like that McCaffrey over... um, receptions because the pressure.
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  Speaker 5: That the Rams are going to get a lot of
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  Speaker 5: dink and dunks to McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he could probably approach double digits and catches.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I agree.
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  Speaker 2: And, and, and you know, the one thing, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: see what happens with Kirk, but I don't think anyone's
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  Speaker 2: really there to stretch the field for San Fran. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so I, I think you're right, Art. I
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  Speaker 2: think their strategy is going to be that dink and
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  Speaker 2: dunk style. Anyway, guys, hit the like button. Subscribe to
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  Speaker 2: our channel. Make sure to comment. We will go through
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  Speaker 2: the mailbag section later on in the show. Lots of
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  Speaker 2: amazing comments yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to you all.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, well, before we get into our shark bets, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk really quick. What did we learn last night? I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to tell you right off the bat. Seattle is dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they just won with a backup who actually
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  Speaker 2: looked good.
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  Speaker 3: But their defense.
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  Speaker 2: Now I don't want to overreact, but this is probably
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  Speaker 2: the best defense in the league last year. For sure
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  Speaker 2: the best defense in the league the second half of
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  Speaker 2: the season. It's not ridiculous to say that they're going
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  Speaker 2: to be top three unit this year. They were flying
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  Speaker 2: last night. And on top of that, shout out to
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  Speaker 2: Drake May. He played outstanding in the fourth quarter, except
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  Speaker 2: the brain cramp at the end. But come on, that
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  Speaker 2: fourth and nine, he really showed some good moxie. My takeaway,
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  Speaker 2: look to bet the unders in Seattle all year long.
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  Speaker 3: Joe?
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  Speaker 4: I said, and we said it here, Prez, that there
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  Speaker 4: is going to be regression for Drake May and that
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  Speaker 4: offense because that schedule propped them up to be something
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  Speaker 4: that they are not. And listen, AJ Brown was not
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  Speaker 4: going to be the end-all, be-all for that team in
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  Speaker 4: any way, shape, or form. So, yeah, I think what
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  Speaker 4: you saw last night is what we have seen, I think,
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  Speaker 4: for the last 12 games against teams over. 500, because
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  Speaker 4: I believe Drake May has yet to beat a team
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  Speaker 4: in this particular spot in the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 4: To me, this is what you're going to get this
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  Speaker 4: year against the big boy schedule because you're not going
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  Speaker 4: to be playing just the Jets and just Arizona and
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  Speaker 4: just these terrible teams.
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  Speaker 1: Expect that.
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  Speaker 4: Defensively, they're good. Make no mistake about it. But they're
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  Speaker 4: going to lose more of those one-score games than they're
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  Speaker 4: going to win, I think, moving forward against a better competition.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they had that game last night, Art.
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  Speaker 3: It was there for them.
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  Speaker 2: And that's going to be a costly loss for them. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think of their defense? It's
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  Speaker 2: tough to tell.
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  Speaker 3: But, you know, Drew Locke looked good, man. He really
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  Speaker 3: looked poised. He looked calm.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he made a handful of throws that he needed
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  Speaker 4: to make at a good time, and that was the
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  Speaker 4: difference there.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, he's a backup quarterback. What's the rule? Two games?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I mean, that's what they're good for as
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  Speaker 4: a backup quarterback, maybe to win two games. But if
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  Speaker 4: you're expecting more in week five and he's still your quarterback,
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  Speaker 4: I think Seattle's in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think they could survive with him, though, because their
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  Speaker 5: defense is so good.
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  Speaker 3: But not in that division. I don't think they can
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  Speaker 3: survive in that division.
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  Speaker 1: That division is tough.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, their home field and their defense. Listen,
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  Speaker 6: my big takeaway was McDonald's the best coach in the league.
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  Speaker 6: That was my takeaway. I think he's the best coach
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  Speaker 6: in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Well, at least he owns Drake Mayway now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he's a phenomenal coach, so I love that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Could be a while before they play Drake May again.
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  Speaker 3: Sharp bets, Art. We got a slate of... Baseball going.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, we've got some football going and we've got a
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  Speaker 2: whole college football slate in front of us.
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  Speaker 3: Same with NFL.
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  Speaker 2: What are you seeing out there from the wise guys?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's only a four or five game baseball slate.
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  Speaker 6: I think five.
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  Speaker 5: So really small. The only sharp thing to report baseball
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  Speaker 5: wise is the White Sox. I'll dive into some more
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  Speaker 5: of the moves when we get to the college football section.
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  Speaker 5: But just only thing to report sharp wise in MLB today, Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Our parlay of the day on Thursdays is all college football.
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  Speaker 3: Art DeCesar, why don't you go first?
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  Speaker 5: It certainly is. I'm going to lay the big number
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  Speaker 5: with UCLA. 11 and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Joe Ranieri?
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State. The upend Texas.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the under in the Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 2: Michigan game, 43 and a half.
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  Speaker 3: The under argue with that in the Oklahoma, Michigan game.
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  Speaker 2: That is our parlay of the day guys moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be doing something called our NFL contest picks.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to do NFL today, college football tomorrow. The
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  Speaker 2: focus is on our pick five. So it's all side
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  Speaker 2: bets against the spread and, The three of us are
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  Speaker 2: in the Circa Millions.
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  Speaker 3: We plan on winning it.
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  Speaker 2: We will not go through all five necessarily on this show,
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  Speaker 2: but we will sort of hash out a few. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to start off the bat, Joe Ranieri. We
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  Speaker 2: don't need to do a whole take. If it's a
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  Speaker 2: quick yes, then it's a yes. I would like to
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  Speaker 2: submit the Indianapolis Colts and the Jacksonville Jaguars as part
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  Speaker 2: of our five.
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  Speaker 3: Feel free to.
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  Speaker 2: Talk me out of it, or if you say no,
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  Speaker 2: we just move on.
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  Speaker 3: Joe?
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  Speaker 1: No argument for me, Press.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that Baltimore is extremely overvalued heading
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  Speaker 4: into the season.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about this game, too.
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  Speaker 4: I think not a lot of people talking about Indy,
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  Speaker 4: you know, because of Danny Dimes now, and if he
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  Speaker 4: goes down, then it's Anthony Richardson.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how good was he last year?
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  Speaker 4: I think they're underestimating what Lou Anarumo and that defense
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  Speaker 4: of the Colts are going to bring to the table.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not sure we all really know whether Minter
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  Speaker 4: and this team, I'm not buying it. They're going to
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  Speaker 4: have to prove it to me. I think it's worth
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  Speaker 4: taking the points here. I think there's too much value
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  Speaker 4: not to take the points.
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  Speaker 2: And you're good with Jacksonville as well. I know it's
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  Speaker 2: a big number, but I think it's a 41-3 kind
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  Speaker 2: of a game. No.
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  Speaker 4: I do not trust Jacksonville early on in the year
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  Speaker 4: to cover this kind of number. Absolutely not. Even against
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  Speaker 4: the Browns. Even against the Browns. You know how pissed
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  Speaker 4: I will be if they don't cover this number and
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  Speaker 4: in week one.
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  Speaker 1: We pick the big favorite? No, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: So Indianapolis is confirmed. Art, do you have a suggestion
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  Speaker 2: for us?
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  Speaker 6: I like the Vikings. I like divisional team at home.
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  Speaker 3: I have no problem with the Vikings.
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  Speaker 5: One and a half in the contest. I think Green
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  Speaker 5: Bay is kind of a mess here. And I think
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  Speaker 5: we're going to get a slugfest in a divisional game
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  Speaker 5: in a week one. And I don't have to lay
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  Speaker 5: three or three and a half. Basically, with a one
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  Speaker 5: and a half, you just need Minnesota to win the game.
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  Speaker 5: I like the Vikings in the contest.
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  Speaker 3: Joe, are you good with the Vikings?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so interested in seeing what we're getting from
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  Speaker 4: the Vikings this year.
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  Speaker 1: I really am.
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  Speaker 4: I think that he is a quarterback whisperer, after all.
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  Speaker 4: He did create Sam Donald and reinvented him. I think
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  Speaker 4: we're going to see some of that here with Kyler Murray. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't mind the Vikings at all.
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  Speaker 2: Joe, can you give us one, and then we'll have
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  Speaker 2: three of the five.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's going to be tough, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: still going with the Raiders, even though.
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  Speaker 1: Brock Bowers is done.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Myers is just a good tight end, especially against the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 4: I got no problem backing the old man there, Kirk Cousins,
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  Speaker 4: and the Raiders to get it done at home.
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  Speaker 1: Art, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: Are you good with the Raiders?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't disagree.
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  Speaker 5: And Joe's point to, listen, Bowers is the best tight
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  Speaker 5: end in the league, but Meyer's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And the Raiders are at home.
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  Speaker 5: And I think we all universally think outside of, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we think Arizona's going to be bad.
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  Speaker 6: I think we all think Miami's the worst team. Yep.
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  Speaker 5: So week one, them traveling to Vegas, even though it's
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  Speaker 5: three and a half in the contest, I like the Raiders.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So those are three of our five picks, everybody. The Raiders,
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings, and the Colts.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
• 13:39
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• 13:42
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  Speaker 3: Okay, beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: Prez actually you know i've been on here for you
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  Speaker 5: know about two and a half weeks loading picks today
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: will be the first day because it's so small that
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: i'll actually pass on the baseball card. I've had a
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: baseball play up every day. It's just harder. And listen,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: I'm never going to force anything, never going to just
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: have something up to have that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: I don't believe that.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: But later on today, we'll have two college plays loaded,
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: probably going to look to get a third up there.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: So we'll have a nice little, Free pack up there
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: for college. Definitely going to have one NFL loaded later
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: today as well. And probably to look to play two
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: games in week one as well. So probably add another
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: one there. And listen, you know, go check out my page,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: see everything I'm doing there. See, you know, all my
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: free plays, all my last 20 and just kind of
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: get a sense of, you know, my philosophy and what
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: I believe in.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Joe, what do you have going for the clients? Are
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: you playing baseball today?
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Is your college football and NFL card up?
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Free play.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the free play is up there for Major League Baseball,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: my page. Two college, two NFL locked and loaded for
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: the weekend. You can go grab those now over at wageredtalk.com
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: or just get the whole damn weekend warrior pass and
• 17:10
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• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Post in there. I think that's the best way to
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: do it. Yeah.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, guys, remember to hit the like button, subscribe to
• 17:20
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• 17:23
  Speaker 3: We read the comment section every day.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: And when I say we, Art and I read the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: comment section every single day. College football week two, and
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to stick with totals.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I'm going to look at.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Tennessee and Georgia Tech over 55 and a half here, guys.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go into a whole lot of reasoning,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: but I think the line is off by six points.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: My work on this game says it's going to be
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: a 60-plus point game. That gives us at least a
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: field goal and I think maybe.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: A touchdown extra. I like the over. I think that
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: line is low. Joe?
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: That's actually– That's interesting, Prez. I am going to go
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: to Stillwater, and I am going to take the Oregon
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: team total up and over, Prez, this weekend here. I
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: do think Oklahoma State's offense will be better. But I
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: think that scare by Boise State, now Oregon in their
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: first road game, not an easy place to play.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I think they could get to 40. I think they're
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: going to get some points here.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: And they're not going to win 73-3 or whatever the
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: hell it was last year. But I do think points
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: will certainly be coming from Oregon in this one because
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: that defense, a lot of question marks still there for
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma State.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that call. We're on the same page.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Art, what do you got for us, College Football Week 2?
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Well, like I like to do, which I was doing
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: earlier in the week, always trying to give moves. And
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: I got four more that have moved and have just seen,
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: you know, basically sharp money that comes in. You saw
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: money come in on the Duke under, money come in
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: on the UConn under. Mentioned that Georgia Tech game. There
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: was money on Georgia Tech early at 13.5. Ohio went
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: from 2 to 3. A game that we mentioned maybe
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Monday or Tuesday on the show, Air Force took a
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: ton of money at 5.5.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: Now 2.5.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I think now the value is on North Dakota State.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: Now they're under a field goal.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: I know it's really hard to prepare for a team
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: like Air Force, but now that number is totally out
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: of whack. So I think now you're going to see
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: the buyback come, and maybe that game gets pushed to 3, 3.5.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Like it.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Guys, Survivor, what I want to do with Survivor is
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: really talk conceptually first, just to let everybody know the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: three of us are in the Circus Survivor contest.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I'm also in the Circus Survivor.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Contest by myself, and I have like five teams in
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a big splash.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Contest.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: So I'm all over the map with Survivor. But what
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I want to ask both of you guys, and I'll
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: start with you, Art, is.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Do you subscribe to the theory of mapping out the
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: entire year? Now, I understand in the circle we need
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: to hold teams for Thanksgiving and for Christmas.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I respect that. However.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I do not agree with charting out the entire year
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: unless you want to have an incredible chart of the
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: entire year when you're knocked out in week three. I
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: believe we have to focus on getting through each week.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: We will worry about the other stuff later. For all
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: we know, we hold Kansas City for week 14 and
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes is injured. So I really want to focus
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: on just getting through each week. With that said, I
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: am taking Vegas in one of my picks, and that
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: goes against that. But given that I have a bunch
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: of picks, I think Vegas is probably the most strategically
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: correct pick. But my suggestion for the Circa would be
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to take Jacksonville or the LA Chargers.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: Art?
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: I probably subscribe more to where you're at, Prez, where
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I just want to get through the week and I'll
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: worry about Christmas and Thanksgiving when we get there. We're
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: not even guaranteed to get there. So, hey, let's now
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: you do have to keep that in mind because you
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: can't get to those weeks. You have no teams to
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: play because then you're automatically out.
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: But I'm with you.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: I think if you just look at the board this week,
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: you say, hey, Jacksonville is the easiest play.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: We'll move on to week two.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: So I'm more of that philosophy and kind of siding
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: with you, Prez.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Joe, I'd like to end this segment with our actual
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: survivor pick. So what are your thoughts conceptually and what
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: is your thoughts for a survivor pick?
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I have no interest in backing a big favorite in
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: week one.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And watch it lose.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: And because we have overestimated everything in the world on
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: teams like Jacksonville, who we expect is just somehow going
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: to roll over a Browns team that we don't know
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: an awful lot about.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, we do.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the defense is going to be really good. So
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: that's the problem I have with early picks, just assuming
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: big favorites are going to roll. And so I would
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: much rather go with what I know. And there are
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: certain teams I feel that are just better than the
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: teams they're playing.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: It's not about getting cute, but it's.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: About being practical because I wouldn't be able to a
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: lot of sleepless nights. If I'm taking a nine or
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: eight point favorite and they lose outright, I would, I'd
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: have a hard time showing up on Monday after that happens.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: And it did happen three years ago with the LA Chargers.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Chargers, yes. Yes, it did.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: So where are.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: We going, guys? We need a survivor pick. We are
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: doing it live on air. What is our pick going
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to be?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I would look at Chicago.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: No chance. I am vetoing a road team. No veto.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: We are loud vetoes.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: I'm with you, Prez. I'm vetoing that as well.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: You want to go with Pittsburgh and risk that? I wouldn't.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: They got Cleveland at home at some point.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: In the season.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Oof.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: You want to go with the Lions? No, you don't
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: want to do that.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: No, I'm scared of the Lions. I'm more scared of
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: the Lions than I am the Jaguars.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So where are we going to go here, Joe? I
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: am vetoing your Chicago pick. Frankly, I'd rather have Carolina.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Then give me Dallas.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Okay, listen, you know I like the Giants, but.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Another road division road team to start Survivor? We're going
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: to find better spots for Dallas. How about at home
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: against the Giants?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: How about Denver?
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Are you out of your mind? Can we do this
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: without Joe? That was good, Joe.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: That was good. That's phenomenal. How about Denver?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: Denver it is.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Denver it is. We're all on Denver. We are all
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: on Denver.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: That's amazing.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to not do the Jags, but how about,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: can we go? I know you don't want to.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Give me the Bengals. No, honestly, give me the Bengals.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: They've got Cleveland at home this year.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know why you're assuming Cleveland is going 0-16
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Can we see.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Cleveland with a new head coach and a defense that's
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: carrying a whole lot better pieces than people realize?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with that said, you got it. Baker Mayfield coming
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: in with a chip on his shoulder.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: He got paid. There's no chip. He got paid.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: He just got his $ 180 million.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: There is no more chip.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on, hold on. We all like this
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: in the contest. Do we just roll the dice and
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: take the Raiders?
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I'm okay. I would rather the Raiders than Cincinnati.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: The Raiders play Arizona in week six.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on. You can't have it both ways.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Well, they play Miami now, Joe, and I think Miami's
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: even worse.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I think they're underrated.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: How are we ever going to agree?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: This is week one.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, my Lord.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: We're not. Denver it is.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: We're going to have to go with a two out
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: of three. Art, where are we going in Survivor?
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: I'm with you, Press. I think Jacksonville.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Joe, you have been outvoted.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I am not.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I will take the Raiders before I take Jacksonville.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Well, you'll take the Raiders next week.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have to figure out. We can't be unanimous, Joe. Joe,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I'm prepared to allow you to pick between Jacksonville.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: And the Chargers.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Not picking the two biggest favorites on board. Absolutely not.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: So what do we do here, Art?
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Pick the team that's better than the other team here
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: that's not ridiculous and would be a total upset and
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: sleepless nights.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I'm good with Vegas.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I'm all right with the Raiders here, but I'm telling you.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to burn the charges now. Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Well, listen, we're rolling dice then, Raiders.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a dice roll that
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: really is, though.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Raiders it is. Okay.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Gentlemen, MLB rundown.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Go. There's only five games on the board here. It's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: not really. I mean, Prez, shoot. What do we got?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Seattle and Texas.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: DeGrom versus Gilbert coming up at 4 o'clock.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: What do you think of that one there?
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: Low total. I like the low total in that game.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Even though it's 6.5, I'll take the other.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: God, that's crazy. Logan Gilbert at home has been better than.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Colorado and the Yankees freed against Feltner. Yankees got it
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: done again last night. Judge got a couple of hits.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: What are we thinking?
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: Yankees are winning, and they're winning on the run line,
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: which is never good for sportsbooks. Probably continues. The Rockies
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: are bad.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Jones versus Smith. White Sox can't get out of their
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: own way.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: What are we thinking?
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: No.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: I like the White Sox in the game.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: The Sharps agree. The Sharps were awful yesterday. They were
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: 0-3 with the picks that I gave out with the Sharps.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: White Sox need the game. Like I said, Guardians are
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: on their heels.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Yep, and that's it. That is your Major League Baseball
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Rundown Press.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: There we go, guys.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Mailbag section. The LaFranchise likes that things got a little
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: saucy yesterday in the NFL side segment. Imagine how you'll
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: feel about our survivor segment. It reminded him of the
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: present Teddy Dustup.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, no.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Nothing was like.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Teddy was legitimately mad at me all the time.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Did you see.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: My response to that, Prez?
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: No, what did you say?
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: I said it was like Hagler and Hearns.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: You two slugging it out.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Dave Turkarski, Jackson Dart is one concussion away from trouble.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Art, are you buying into Jackson Dart? He's not one
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: concussion away. He's away.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Listen, lifelong Giant fan, I like what I've seen out
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: of Dart. I need to see a lot more. You know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: he's played 10 games. I'm not putting him in the
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Hall of Fame yet, but he does have some tendencies
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: that you don't like where he doesn't run out of bounds.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: He doesn't slide. And when they can take shots at
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: you in the NFL, they're going to do that. So
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: I'd like him to learn that part of the game.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: And I like the swagger and I like everything he's
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: got seems to be loved in the locker room. All
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: this guys love them. I think that's important.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Uh, Andrew Wodge. He, I like, I just want to
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: say Andrew Wodge, shout out to you, my brother.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Thanks for always being a listener and a great friend
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: to wager talk.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: John writes, love the show.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Well, it was great. I only harass Prez because it's fun. Listen,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: everybody only harasses Prez because it's fun. If it wasn't fun,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: why would you waste your time doing anything? I harassed
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Prez because it's fun and I'm an easily harassable dude.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Pile on baby.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Just so long as you comment. And for the rest
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: of you guys, Oh, and this guy uh writes uh
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: i love this shane ralph michaels picks clemson ha ha
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: ha yes ralph michaels picked clemson i'm so glad you're
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: laughing in his face behind your keyboard clemson so you
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Violent keyboard warrior you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Because Clemson's not going to win a game this year?
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Is that that hot take that he came up with?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Are they playing LSU again? Or what did I miss here?
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: No?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Do you have any magic mushrooms for today, Joe?
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe tomorrow.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Can you get us some mushrooms?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: We wasn't enough. We wasn't strong enough. Yeah, circle that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: So when Clemson wins 68 to nothing at home this weekend,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: we can come back to it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Ha ha.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Ha ha.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Okay. Great show, everybody. Thanks for watching the best betting
• 30:31
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• 30:34
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• 30:35
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• 30:40
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• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Guys, thanks for watching.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Denver it is. Yeah.