Latest / Simply Bitcoin / LIVE FROM THE MINING CONFERENCE | EP 596
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- 0:17Yep. Today is October. 7 2022.
- 0:20Welcome to Simply Bitcoin. We are your number one source
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- 0:30And when we say that, we obviously mean Freedom, welcome
- 0:32to the Friday special. We are live streaming from the
- 0:35floor of Scots legendary the mining conference.
- 0:39Well, he changed it now. It's just the mining conference.
- 0:42I want to give a special shout-out to Scott.
- 0:44He is the organizer. Welcome to the show, man.
- 0:48It's great to be here. Great, to be here.
- 0:50Yeah, it's coming together nicely and we're just having a
- 0:54great time at the mining conference here in Round Rock,
- 0:57Texas. Yeah, this is this is definitely
- 0:59is a celebration. You get to meet a lot of people
- 1:03from the industry that you would never regular.
- 1:05See spoke to some of the people a bit made spoke to people at
- 1:08what's minor. All the major manufacturers are
- 1:11here if you're interested in hosting.
- 1:13It's also a good place to be. Also want to give a special
- 1:15shout-out to my friend Tucson. The Spin Master from bowling
- 1:19last night. Kaboom Max.
- 1:23How you doing? Tucson gem.
- 1:25Pretty good. As you can see, I'm drinking a
- 1:27Red Bull, and if you're not working towards hypertension in
- 1:31this bear Market, you're not building hard enough.
- 1:34Is them that he dropped and of course Tom, how you doing?
- 1:37Tom, welcome to Simply Bitcoin. Great, thanks for having me on,
- 1:41great to see some familiar faces and meet some new people.
- 1:43So it is going to be a great show.
- 1:45Guys. We're gonna it's we're going to
- 1:46change it up a little bit. To take advantage of the fact
- 1:49that we have all these awesome panelists on the show.
- 1:51Today, we're going to talk definitely going to scoop into
- 1:54mining. I've had private conversations
- 1:56with with Tucson, I've had private conversations with Alex,
- 1:59I've had private conversations with Scott, so just a just some
- 2:03interesting topics that we could definitely bring up today.
- 2:05That I feel like you guys would find valuable many ways, not the
- 2:09culture. We're doing interviews.
- 2:11We're doing interviews, my job is easy today.
- 2:13So yeah guys, I'm having a blast out here.
- 2:18Me and Nico dominated bowling last night.
- 2:21I ate like too many burgers, you know, not doing the best on my
- 2:27diet over here, but fun time bullying just for anyone who
- 2:33hasn't done it before, just throw the ball hard.
- 2:35It works. Anyways, let's start the show.
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- 3:41advantage of the number section to give a shout-out to the
- 3:45legendary crypto couple. They came out with another
- 3:49awesome me Maddox in video and I want to play that for you guys
- 3:53today and then we'll Riff on it. Let's check it out.
- 3:55Shout out to the crypto couple and we got a viking behind
- 3:57stage. Dude, dude.
- 5:30Dude, they're fucking great the fucking amazing.
- 5:34Holy shit. That was Beatles right.
- 5:37They must think that Simon and Garfunkel.
- 5:39Right. Is it?
- 5:39I don't know. I don't know.
- 5:41I don't know. We're definitely gonna get
- 5:42smashed some old band so that came from Scott that income from
- 5:49Nico, just for the record. I'm yeah.
- 5:53That Sound of Silence, right. Simon and Garfunkel parody.
- 5:58Nico doesn't know anything about anything when it comes to music.
- 6:02So I got back. Anyways before we get into just
- 6:06making fun of Nico. I as much as everyone calls what
- 6:13they're doing, you know cringe and I still believe that they're
- 6:17spreading that signal. And this is this out who the
- 6:20hell says it on Twitter. A lot of people be talking that
- 6:23smack and And I think they're killing it.
- 6:25Everything they're doing just kids better.
- 6:27Their production value just continues to get better.
- 6:29They're getting better at the parodies and this is what this
- 6:32is, what happened for for Mass adoption guys, like having these
- 6:35little skits, this is how you sink into the culture and you
- 6:38tell people the signal while, maintaining all the sauce and it
- 6:45is nigga you jump in, you jump in.
- 6:47Yeah, dude, first of all, crypto couple, shout out to them,
- 6:51Absolute Legends. Freaking bro.
- 6:54Amazingly Medics man. Amazing memetics.
- 6:57There's some of the best getting the message out there.
- 6:59One of the most effective ways and reason memes are so
- 7:02effective, right? It's first of all, they have to
- 7:03have a common denominator which is the truth.
- 7:06They don't have that common denominator, then it's not it's
- 7:08not going to go viral. People are not going to
- 7:10understand that common language that's number one.
- 7:12Number two is make people laugh right?
- 7:15You know there's a lot of heavy crap that we have to deal with.
- 7:18This is a separation of money and state after all.
- 7:20So you know at least they're talking about dark top.
- 7:24But in a light heart and I think that's why it's so effective and
- 7:27it's not only me saying that the free market is saying that as
- 7:30well. Look at the amount of views that
- 7:32they're getting. Look at the amount of traction
- 7:33engagement. I think sailor retweeted them
- 7:35the other day, right? So, you know, it speaks for
- 7:37itself. The effectiveness of crypto
- 7:40couples pneumatics, right? So anyway, Scott, what was your
- 7:43you you heard that right? That was that was nice.
- 7:47I like it. You know.
- 7:47There's something to be said about you know, the production
- 7:51quality these days. I think people actually Really
- 7:54tend to like stuff that's a little bit more rough.
- 7:57So I hope it doesn't get too refined I like that was dropped
- 8:02in some wisdom, some wisdom anyways.
- 8:04Tucson, don't forget to pick up the mic.
- 8:06What do you think? Um, crypto cup, love it, I think
- 8:10culture parodies music is very underappreciated.
- 8:15It's something that's incredibly important for moving people.
- 8:20People understand things from different mediums.
- 8:24And stuff like, that's pretty pretty awesome.
- 8:27Absolutely. Kaboom, Kaboom racks Tom.
- 8:31What are you thoughts, man? Yeah, I love it, man.
- 8:34I think, you know, people engage with stories and that's kind of
- 8:38something that they're kind of representing every time they
- 8:40drop some new content so really appreciate it.
- 8:42Absolutely, 100% Opti. Is it time?
- 8:47It's time, it's time. All right, all right guys, let's
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- 9:14A bit box today. All right, guys, I'm gonna make
- 9:17this Or because I really want to take advantage of the fact that
- 9:20we have some awesome guests. But I do have to cover this is
- 9:23the original title for the thumbnail but as guests came in,
- 9:28right we did obviously you have a change of plans but we need a
- 9:31contingency so this is the original title so I'm going to
- 9:35address it where to talk about this today and we have an
- 9:37awesome panel too kind of Riff on.
- 9:39So for anyone that doesn't know, Celsius disclosed names and
- 9:43transaction history of all users during bankruptcy.
- 9:46Any wallet that Interacted with Celsius, is now publicly linked
- 9:50to government ID and here are some of the bullet points.
- 9:54Court filings totaled, 14,000 Pages data includes names,
- 9:58trading history, transaction times.
- 10:00And amounts, this data can be combined with on chain data to
- 10:03connect self custody wallets with any Celsius, user that
- 10:07interacted with them Celsius, ask for the names of its users
- 10:10to be hidden from the court filings.
- 10:12But the judge refused saying that is common requirement for
- 10:14bankruptcy cases. Users are now at Thinking's risk
- 10:18of theft and extortion, right? And we had some predominant
- 10:22bitcoiners that were signed up to sit Celsius is like blad
- 10:27right blad admitted that he was on there as well.
- 10:30And this is mad. Odell's, you know, thinking on
- 10:33this, he said today's not a good day, the fact that most Bitcoin
- 10:36services are storing growing list of bitcoiners and our
- 10:38transaction history puts us all at risk and I agree.
- 10:42And I think this is one of the unintended consequences of Ky C.
- 10:46You C KY. I see being pushed, you know,
- 10:48tremendously and all the benefits of it.
- 10:50But the downsides of it is, never talked about is never
- 10:54talked about, right? The dangers of it, right?
- 10:57And it wasn't only that, right? Equifax had a crazy leak as
- 11:00well. And there's so many leaks that
- 11:03you look throughout the last 56 years of very personal
- 11:06information but every time, you know, more kyc and more am L, is
- 11:11pushed by regulators and you know, Bitcoin exchanges are
- 11:14forced to comply or else they're going to be Been out of
- 11:17business. It's never the downsides are
- 11:21never talked about, right? And downsides of that system is
- 11:24never talked about one of the awesome things about Bitcoin is
- 11:27anonymity. I don't need to untie.
- 11:28Don't need to know someone's personal information and who
- 11:32they are. What their name is to pay them
- 11:34right if they offer me free good work right?
- 11:37You know I do this all the time, you know when I'm like hey I
- 11:39need help with the thumbnail, you know, I hire random pleb, I
- 11:42pay them directly half the time. I don't even know who their name
- 11:45is who they are, but it doesn't. Matter.
- 11:47I don't need to I'm just paying them for their work, right?
- 11:51And I believe that in itself is going to connect the world.
- 11:54The likes of which we've never seen before and it's going to
- 11:56create opportunities for people in developing countries where
- 12:00they had no opportunities before, right?
- 12:02Because there was no way to pay them, right?
- 12:04You going to pay someone through PayPal and that persons in
- 12:06Nigeria? No, that doesn't work, right?
- 12:09Bitcoin allows that, right? So again, I think this is just
- 12:12another example of how the Oh it trying to implement the Legacy
- 12:16system on top of the System has unintended consequences and it's
- 12:20actually, potentially, could put people in physical danger Opti.
- 12:24What are your thoughts on this? Well, this Celsius.
- 12:28What's the guy's name? Alex, my schinsky.
- 12:31This debacle just keeps getting worse and worse.
- 12:34And I mean, dude, the fact that the court documents, just docks.
- 12:38Everyone's all their information in there and the judges like
- 12:42says like nah, this is all going in there, man.
- 12:45Absolutely Like I want to say an embarrassment but there's I
- 12:50guess, you know, this is the law and this is what you got to do
- 12:53and then just just to put a little Personal Touch on it.
- 12:55There was a piano bar here and the piano player was talking
- 12:59about him being on Celsius and him getting wrecked.
- 13:01So unfortunate now that I guess all his information is out there
- 13:06and and it's just, you know, further further Testament to the
- 13:09idea of Everything is like a honey pot with your information
- 13:13here and try to do your best to avoid what what, you know the
- 13:18kyc, but don't break the laws or whatever.
- 13:20Not, you know, Bitcoin. Hold on, hold on, hold on
- 13:24bitcoin. That you can get without signing
- 13:26up is nice. Yes, I mean, like look like you
- 13:29got to talk about it, right? The difference between non kyc
- 13:32Bitcoin kyc become one of the best ways for non kyc, by the
- 13:35way is Bitcoin mining. And if you want to know more
- 13:36about it, you should have to come to the mining conference
- 13:38here. But look, So think about it,
- 13:42right? One of the best ways is mining
- 13:44Bitcoin. Another is peer to peer
- 13:45exchanges. The problem is that had that
- 13:47software is usually very heavy and usually tend to pay to pay a
- 13:51heavy premium, right? If you're using bisque, what a
- 13:54lot of people do in developing countries and overseas, is they
- 13:56have these massive telegram chats and it's all peer-to-peer.
- 14:00Right? You're exchanging Bitcoin
- 14:01peer-to-peer for whatever currency, they're exchanging it
- 14:03for on the ground. That's usually how it works.
- 14:05But It sucks because major Bitcoin businesses babe your
- 14:11Bitcoin exchanges, if they don't want to be put in jail or driven
- 14:15out of business, they have to implement kyc their coerced to
- 14:20doing. So, to the fact that they take
- 14:22this. So, seriously that they put art,
- 14:24they made an example of Arthur, Hays, man.
- 14:26You know, the founder of bit Max because he didn't Implement
- 14:29sufficient kyc and am L, right? So it puts everything, it puts
- 14:34Bitcoin exchanges in a terrible position because it's almost as
- 14:37if they have to Monitor for the government.
- 14:38It's like they become an extension for the government,
- 14:41right? Which is terrible as well, man.
- 14:43I think the, the, the important discussion right should be, is
- 14:48K, what are the benefits of kyc and am L?
- 14:50We had a kyc and am L expert on the show and then right we had a
- 14:55he went through the data. It was like point.
- 14:57One percent of criminal proceeds are recovered because of the kyc
- 15:01an AML system. I would like to make the
- 15:04argument that kyc and am L is really a system of control.
- 15:07All right? So About controlling people.
- 15:09What are the actual, you know, benefits of stopping crime,
- 15:12right? What what is are we gaining more
- 15:15from having these systems? Then what we're losing right?
- 15:18And I think that's a really important question that your
- 15:20discussion to have. And I think more people should
- 15:22do research on that, and we've actually had, you know, KY caml
- 15:27experts on the show and it comes from their mouths.
- 15:31You know, obviously we're biased because we're bitcoiners, but it
- 15:33says, like, look, this system does not work, right?
- 15:35And that was the episode with dr.
- 15:36Ron Paul. Not the Vision, by the way.
- 15:39So yeah. Anyways Scott, what are your
- 15:41thoughts on this Celsius debacle?
- 15:43What are your thoughts on machine ski?
- 15:45Pulling out, 10 million, 10 million dollars, two months, or
- 15:49a month before the collapse out. Maybe he knew something, I don't
- 15:55know. But yeah, I know you're saying
- 15:58earlier, you know, about kyc and the piano man, but it's just,
- 16:04it's just awesome, you know, being here at this conference at
- 16:06the mining conference We were able to spread that Bitcoin love
- 16:12and we were able to actually give the the Piano, Man some
- 16:15Bitcoin. It was his first Bitcoin
- 16:17transaction. Unfortunately, it was on a kyc
- 16:20wallet, but hey, we're getting the word out there.
- 16:25Absolutely. All right.
- 16:27All right. Tucson, the Spin Master X.
- 16:34I think it's important, like, is people like the frame?
- 16:37These conversations in ways where it's really hard to argue
- 16:43against against against because it's in bad faith.
- 16:46Like you know, we're talking about how kyc has no, you know,
- 16:50positive impacts and is actually a detriment to everybody, you
- 16:54know, having to go through it. And so, you know, I like to do
- 16:57little things. I don't refer to it as non kyc,
- 16:59but I refer to it as ethical Bitcoin.
- 17:02I think stuff like that is important.
- 17:05You want to go about things and be treated.
- 17:07Unethically, or do you want to start looking at ethical ways to
- 17:10operate? And it's just, it's crazy.
- 17:13It's about control. It's about Like really doing you
- 17:18a disservice. It's about putting you in
- 17:22dangerous situations where you're at risk.
- 17:24Like it happens over and over again.
- 17:26Every time your information, your personal info is collected,
- 17:30it's going to be leet, eventually, I mean, just little
- 17:32things. Like I remember, I got a bunch
- 17:36of data leak. Just by swiping a debit card at
- 17:39Target. And that's pretty crazy.
- 17:42You know, to think about and when you're utilizing Bitcoin,
- 17:45it's It's not like that and like the big thing is like, you know,
- 17:50we talk about these guys talk about self custody quite a bit.
- 17:53They talk about, you know, ethical Bitcoin quite a bit.
- 17:57They talk about the dangers kyc like markets are the most
- 18:02powerful thing and I think people have this idea that you
- 18:05need kyc. Need these institutions for the
- 18:08price to pump and I know a lot of people are really worried
- 18:10about that, but I don't think that's necessarily true you
- 18:14know, because why is Bitcoin around it?
- 18:16There's a market for it's because Fiat is failing.
- 18:19People are looking to escape the soup.
- 18:21Its system that as these institutions and governments,
- 18:26and central banks continue to do this nonsense, people are going
- 18:30to fully and that's going to pump the price, you know,
- 18:33ultimately and so I don't think we have to compromise and just
- 18:36accept, you know, being abused by these people.
- 18:39So yeah, yeah, 100%. I think that was beautifully.
- 18:42Put Tom, what are your thoughts on this Celsius debacle the
- 18:46collapse of Celsius and then not only did Celsius, users get
- 18:50screwed in two ways, right? They got their first there, got
- 18:53their funds Frozen and that they got their information, docs and
- 18:56it just came out recently this week that the CEO was pulling
- 19:00out money before the freeze has happened, dude.
- 19:04I think that's like triple left. Yeah, triple effed.
- 19:07It sucks, man. You know, I know, I know
- 19:08multiple people personally, who are affected by Celsius.
- 19:11Like, I know. Fortunately wasn't, but, you
- 19:13know, that kind of stuff sucks. And I think on the whole Ml K YC
- 19:18kind of procon thing, like it ain't for me.
- 19:20You always have to compare things in terms of trade-offs,
- 19:22right? It's like, whatever the stated
- 19:24Pros are we got to look at the other side and see like, okay,
- 19:26well, with that comes things like this data leaks.
- 19:29I mean, who knows that the countless amount of, you know,
- 19:32other information that's been out there and things like that.
- 19:35I got a email from, it was U-Haul, I rented like three
- 19:38years ago that all my stuff got leaked because I, you know,
- 19:41rented, a U-Haul and had to give him my info.
- 19:43And, you know, obviously like those are hard problems to
- 19:45solve, but like, I think, The one benefit if I had to frame it
- 19:49this way is like, I think the markets learning, right?
- 19:51And I think the only thing we can rely on is like stuff like
- 19:54this continue to happen, the market will learn, you know, the
- 19:57pros, the cons in the trade off. So that's one way I can look at
- 20:00it and maybe put a silver lining on it.
- 20:02So. Yeah.
- 20:03And also, I think it gives, you know, people in developing
- 20:06countries this massive, I'd, you know, Advantage because they
- 20:09don't have like, you know, we use, we use regulated exchanges
- 20:14in the west because out of convenience, right?
- 20:16That's the The magician has a reason that people use it here,
- 20:19right? And because those exchanges are
- 20:21business that they want to stay in business, they're kind of
- 20:24coerced into implementing these systems, right?
- 20:28Whereas, in developing countries, they don't have
- 20:30those, they don't have those options because the actual
- 20:34rails, the things that are necessary to create those exist,
- 20:37they don't exist in those countries.
- 20:39So the majority of people, the vast majority of people transact
- 20:42Bitcoin, peer to peer through telegram groups through WhatsApp
- 20:45groups, right? That's major.
- 20:47And over there in Venezuela. That's what I hear happens as
- 20:49well, right? So and those those groups, like
- 20:52how they gonna how they going to force them to implement these
- 20:55systems of kyc and am L, right? So it's like a whole it it
- 20:59doesn't make sense, man. And I think this is a really
- 21:02important discussion that we need to have especially in the
- 21:04west, especially in developed countries and that actually
- 21:07might what to do to add, what to, what Tom was saying, that
- 21:10actually might put us at a competitive disadvantage because
- 21:13of all the red red tape compared to developing countries.
- 21:17Is that don't even have these systems in place, right?
- 21:19So I don't know, I think these are really important
- 21:21conversations to have. I know for a fact, more examples
- 21:25of the of, of more examples of the unintended consequences of
- 21:30AML, and kyc are going to continue to pop up as years to
- 21:34come. And hopefully there's enough
- 21:36attention. Hopefully, there's enough
- 21:39knowledge in the public which inevitably forces policymakers
- 21:44to have these types of discussions.
- 21:46I would love For what we just discussed to be bring up in a
- 21:49senate committee. I would love for it to be on
- 21:51record, right? And that needs to happen, right?
- 21:54It can't just be a one way Road of kyc and am L is the end all
- 21:58be all we need it or else, the world will burn down.
- 22:01We also need to talk about the downsides as well.
- 22:03And I think that's really important discussion to have.
- 22:05Anyways, I'm really looking for the culture, we're going to have
- 22:08some awesome interviews with our panelists today.
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- 23:18thinking about this because I knew you're going to come on the
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- 23:24for a while. What has changed, right?
- 23:26How much bigger has it? Gotten compared to when you got
- 23:30in, what do you think the biggest differences are?
- 23:34Ya know, it's crazy. I've been in this industry for
- 23:37about five years, you know. I've one thing I've seen as it's
- 23:42starting to professionalize, you know, it is still the wild west
- 23:48but there's there's more institutions coming.
- 23:52You know, everybody says that but yeah, I think that's really
- 23:56one of the big things is, there's not a whole lot of
- 23:59standards in this industry and so we're kind of just winging
- 24:05it, you know, by the, by the seat of our pants, a lot of
- 24:08times. And so at a conference like
- 24:11this, or, you know, if not like Pacific Pacific Bitcoin, it's
- 24:14just opportunities to spread the word and teach people, you know,
- 24:19how to do this stuff. So, so I I like it.
- 24:23So you said something really interesting, right?
- 24:25Which is you got into the industry five years ago, fast
- 24:29forward now you're throwing mining conferences, right?
- 24:33So holy crap. Did you have any experience in
- 24:37the field whatsoever or you learning everything as you went?
- 24:41Yeah, probably just learning as I go.
- 24:43I think. Yeah.
- 24:45I got into the industry in the first place because well, I used
- 24:49to do the digital marketing. I Crosses one website.
- 24:53That was really crappy and I said, hey, I think I can help
- 24:57them. So, I reached out to them, they
- 24:58happen to be an Asic minor manufacturer.
- 25:02One thing led to another, I kept on helping them with other
- 25:04things because of that, I learned about the Bitcoin mining
- 25:08industry because they were making Bitcoin Miners.
- 25:12And when Bitcoin kind of went Belly Up in 2017, 2018, I just
- 25:19reinvented myself and said, hey, you know, I've learned Too much
- 25:22about this industry, I don't want it to go to waste.
- 25:25So when I just use my talents for for the mining industry.
- 25:29So I just kind of said, all right, you know, I'm going to
- 25:32buy equipment, I'm going to sell miners, I'm gonna help people to
- 25:37do that, matchmaking for people, and I got good at it, you know,
- 25:42kind of like Kaboom Rex over there as well.
- 25:45And eventually I said, hey, you know, we need to take this one
- 25:50step further. And there needed to be a
- 25:54conference. So I started a conference.
- 25:57I knew all the people that were buying minors, selling miners,
- 26:00providing power, providing a Transformers different Services
- 26:04products to the industry. So I figured hey, let's bring it
- 26:08all together and I think, you know and that message is so
- 26:12powerful, right? And you know, I know Tucson
- 26:15before he was at Kaboom racks and Scott, we just recently met
- 26:18been getting acquainted the Unity is just insane, right?
- 26:23You know and the turnover right? You said five years ago, right,
- 26:27for me was sick. I'm on your six for Tucson,
- 26:29right? I met him when he, when he was
- 26:32doing his podcast, right? The opportunity in this field is
- 26:35insane. And I think that, you know, the
- 26:37background right now, the live conference is a testament to how
- 26:40quick things could happen in a short period of time.
- 26:43This industry is full of opportunities and whether it's
- 26:46at Pacific Bitcoin or the mining conference, this is the place to
- 26:49be if you want to work in the industry and If you want to know
- 26:53things about Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining that you didn't know
- 26:55before. Anyways, I'm gonna pass it on to
- 26:57Tucson. So Tucson, we were at a burger
- 27:00bar yesterday, and we're eating burgers and we actually went
- 27:05bowling there. That that night, I didn't know
- 27:07we were going to end up there again.
- 27:09And you were actually talking to me about something really
- 27:11fascinating. He said, Nico the energy prices
- 27:14are going to stay or they are right and for anyone doesn't
- 27:17know a good Bitcoin, mining prices anywhere, ideals.
- 27:20Anywhere between two to three cents.
- 27:22Usually people get between five and six and hosters usually
- 27:25offer between seven and eight, right?
- 27:27And you say that that's going to continue to become more
- 27:30expensive. Why is that is that due to
- 27:32government policy? What's going on?
- 27:34Because I think a lot of miners are hoping that govern that
- 27:37prices are going to go back down again.
- 27:39And you made the case that that isn't the case at all.
- 27:41Why do you believe that? Yeah, I mean, we're watching
- 27:44what's happening? I mean, there's a lot of
- 27:46geologic political stuff going on right now.
- 27:50There's people blowing up Pipelines.
- 27:52In Europe, there's a lot of sanctions going on, there's a
- 27:57lot of you know, anti oil and gas stuff.
- 28:00There's a lot of deployment of unreliable energy sources for
- 28:05the sake of memes or whatever like yeah.
- 28:10But yeah, I mean it's a lot of stuff coming together and then
- 28:14we're also in a very inflationary environment like
- 28:17the dollars going away, everything price in the dollar.
- 28:21I mean, There's no dollar menu at McDonald's anymore.
- 28:25Look like that's, that's a good, you know, barometer for what's
- 28:30going on right now. So Energy prices are going to go
- 28:32up and it's gonna get harder and harder to, you know, find good
- 28:36rates like two to three cents is almost non-existent.
- 28:39Right now for 25 cents is almost non-existent right now.
- 28:42I mean, if you're, you know, retail guy, buying 5, 10, 15
- 28:49miners to host like nine, This is a good rate.
- 28:54So that's what I think is going on.
- 28:57I mean, it is rough out there and we're gonna see what
- 29:01happens. So my pass it on to Tom Tom.
- 29:04We got a chance to talk yesterday at the bowling alley
- 29:07as well. And you were telling me about
- 29:10your new, what you're launching. Your new site.
- 29:14Hash Branch, right? Can you tell a little bit to the
- 29:17people? What that is, why should they
- 29:19care eccentric cetera? Absolutely.
- 29:21Yeah. Yeah.
- 29:22So hash branch is a listing review and Marketplace service
- 29:26for North American Bitcoin, miner hosting companies.
- 29:29We basically help these hosting companies that are popping up
- 29:33everywhere, you know, put their name out there, put their put
- 29:35their contract, their terms, like, what sort of things are
- 29:37looking for? And then on, we try to find them
- 29:39quality customers, right by just kind of opening it up.
- 29:42And then on the other side, letting customers come to the
- 29:44site, you can search sort filter and basically narrow down what
- 29:49hosting options are out there. And then connect directly to So
- 29:52we're kind of trying to build some of the some of the
- 29:55technologies that I think are needed in the space and just
- 29:58connecting people to each other and let them let them do
- 30:00business and you know, letting the market kind of dictate where
- 30:04terms go and where contracts go and we're prices, go and things
- 30:06like that. So yeah, we launched about six
- 30:09weeks ago and I've had some awesome awesome growth kind of
- 30:12positively unexpected and it worried about 20 of the 50
- 30:16states right now. We have you know, hosting
- 30:18companies all over different sizes on Only one of the biggest
- 30:22things I'm starting to learn is like, man, there's a lot of
- 30:24smart people, you know, building right now, which, you know,
- 30:27outside looking in. You might think, you know, all
- 30:29men, Bitcoins Dead, all these things, but I just laugh because
- 30:32I'm, you know, you know, busier than ever talking to some really
- 30:35interesting people. Doing some really great work on
- 30:37the mining side. So yeah.
- 30:39So so it's interesting. So, you are building a site to
- 30:43connect people to hosting companies.
- 30:45How is this different than compass, for example, and what
- 30:48are your thoughts on? What happened with compass?
- 30:51Yeah, so The main difference I would say is that we're not
- 30:54really trying to, you know, own the entire customer relationship
- 30:57and make it one-sided, right? We're really trying to just
- 30:59connect people in the most efficient way and build kind of
- 31:02tools and services on top of that to kind of make the market
- 31:05more efficient, right? So when you come to Hash Branch,
- 31:07you can, you know, look at the list of the actual operators
- 31:10that you're going to be working with, right?
- 31:11We built in reviews so you can see what other people are
- 31:14saying, you know about these services and things like that.
- 31:18So we're you know we're trying to bring transparency them.
- 31:21Market and just like let the, you know, let the best
- 31:24competitive, you know, terms win.
- 31:25And I think what's interesting is like, there's not one size
- 31:29fits, all right. Like there's all sorts of
- 31:30trade-offs. I mentioned that earlier that
- 31:32people make and some people might be willing to pay a little
- 31:34bit more for different terms, right?
- 31:36And and and that's really cool to see.
- 31:38So yeah, I think, you know, on the compass side and I think
- 31:41there's some other players that have faced some similar issues.
- 31:44It's like when your business models tied to, you know, a lot
- 31:47of counterparty risk in your kind of hiding, maybe who you're
- 31:50hosting with and you're maybe owning the Relationship, I think
- 31:53that works in certain scenarios, but the downside is like, you
- 31:57know, anything that happens on the hosting side, it kind of is
- 31:59a reflection of your business because you're owning the entire
- 32:02relationship. Obviously, there's different
- 32:03ways to handle that, and I think people have made different
- 32:05decisions, but, you know, we're not trying to kind of gobble up
- 32:09the entire thing, we're trying to basically build the best way
- 32:11for people to connect, and I think it's really needed
- 32:13because, you know, started with hosting, but you know, I've had,
- 32:16you know, meeting Alex and stuff.
- 32:17Like there's tons of people in the repair side that are
- 32:19interested in stuff like this. And I think, just, Opening it up
- 32:22for the, for the players to communicate and transact and do
- 32:25business with each other and trust each other.
- 32:27Yeah, we've seen a lot of success.
- 32:29So awesome. Congratulations.
- 32:31Awesome. I actually checked out the site
- 32:33yesterday you're showing on your phone.
- 32:34It's super, super cool. And I think, I think a lot of
- 32:37people are going to appreciate that.
- 32:39Going to go back to Tucson Tucson.
- 32:42I've known you for a long time. I've known you.
- 32:44For when you started, you know, as I think it's called The Toxic
- 32:48air waves and I saw you hustling, then, you know, you
- 32:50landed the job. But I Kaboom racks.
- 32:54I want to talk a little bit about Hope, right?
- 32:56And Bitcoin and I think that's what Bitcoin really does.
- 32:58It gives people hope and opportunity and eventually going
- 33:02to ask this question. Scott tell me how you ended up
- 33:07in the mining industry why the mining industry is this
- 33:09something that you wanted to end up working before and if you can
- 33:12go back in time and talk to Tucson whenever you got into
- 33:16Bitcoin, what would you tell him?
- 33:18What would you do differently? If I went back, I'd say, don't
- 33:21shake when did that for a little bit?
- 33:24Not very long. I got the use case of Bitcoin,
- 33:27pretty quick, when I read the Bitcoin standard her about time
- 33:30preference. But yeah, I just stumbled into
- 33:34mining. I live in Arizona, could be a
- 33:37ranks headquarters are in Arizona.
- 33:40I was looking at working at a Bitcoin related company.
- 33:44I had no experience with mining whatsoever and I've been Social
- 33:50work for seven years and I just got burnt out.
- 33:52I'm like, I'm not helping anybody until we fix the money
- 33:56people are didn't continue to get sicker and sicker and so
- 33:59it's like you know, if a bunch of people and our society are
- 34:02getting poisoned, like the answer isn't to go and to the
- 34:08work at hospitals to help treat people for getting poisoned is
- 34:11to go figure out what the poison is and no way could hold on a
- 34:13second. What do you mean poison?
- 34:16Like it? Is that it so you know, I always
- 34:19blame it on Fiat. Right.
- 34:20Is Greg. Foster told me.
- 34:21No, it was, it was, it was Tomer towards like you said that ten
- 34:26times. Its, you're always blaming it on
- 34:27Fiat. It is the poison due to Broken
- 34:30money. Broken world.
- 34:32Yeah, I mean, that's a big part of it, for sure.
- 34:34I mean, it, it's, there's always going to be sick people.
- 34:37There's always going to be broken families, but when you
- 34:39look at people getting racked by our financial system, by the
- 34:43stupids specular saving mechanisms that are not money by
- 34:48being unable to build equity in their On Lies by these education
- 34:52systems that, you know, are teaching people how to be, you
- 34:55know, have no self-confidence and she's be, you know, low
- 34:59self-worth, like all of it, coming together, most of it
- 35:03being facilitated, and only existing, because of Fiat and
- 35:07the ability to centrally controlled things, as a result
- 35:10of that, it's a real big problem and it's only going to continue.
- 35:14Like, I mean, if you look at what's happening right now, how
- 35:17does this get better without going?
- 35:19And fixing them up On it, does it.
- 35:22But yeah. So I stumbled into Bitcoin
- 35:25mining and became obsessed. You know, the work in social
- 35:30work, you kind of have to be a masochist.
- 35:32So I feel like I was predisposed like Bitcoin miners really
- 35:35painful, the industry's wide open.
- 35:38There's a lot of, you know, different opportunities and
- 35:40money to be made here. I mean, you don't have to just
- 35:42mine yourself. I remind myself a little bit,
- 35:47but there's so much room to grow like Scott's talking about that.
- 35:50Stream attorney in like we need, we need so much in this
- 35:56industry. There needs to be technical
- 35:58data, published their needs to be stuff like Tom's doing, which
- 36:01I'm so bullish on it. Very, very happy about that.
- 36:04Happy to support him as much as I can.
- 36:10Yeah, I mean, it's not like, you know, if you go on bitcoin or
- 36:13jobs, you're going to see all these jobs for for dabs pretty
- 36:18much. And like the answer isn't
- 36:19necessary. Ali, learn to code.
- 36:21It's go identify, whatever the issue is, and come up with a
- 36:25solution for it. Oh, that dude, that was
- 36:28inspiring. I'd love that answer.
- 36:30I'm going to go back. You know what it is?
- 36:31Is because he has experience. He's done a podcast before he
- 36:35gets it. Anyways, back to Scott, Scott
- 36:39clearly successful entrepreneur, you want to add to what Tucson
- 36:43was saying that message, right? And I want to make this kind of
- 36:46the theme, right? This message of Hope, tremendous
- 36:49opportunity in Bitcoin space in the mining space.
- 36:53What are your thoughts? Yeah, no.
- 36:54I think what he says, you know, it's resounding in my mind right
- 37:00now, you know, the crypto currency Market.
- 37:05It's obviously very well no Bitcoin Bitcoin Bitcoin is
- 37:09volatile and a lot of times our emotions are tied into that, you
- 37:15know, when price goes up price goes down and and you know, even
- 37:19for myself If personally, I've struggled in the past with, you
- 37:24know, my identity who I am and I've always tied That Into, You
- 37:28know, how hard I work or how successful my company is or
- 37:32isn't and, you know, so there's ups and downs.
- 37:35So I hear what he's saying about, you know, the the mining
- 37:40industry being difficult and also social work being
- 37:43difficult. I mean geez experience there.
- 37:48I think there's definitely some parallels.
- 37:50Got your masochist for sure. Yeah, I live I let him bully me
- 37:54all the time but but no you know I think what we're building here
- 37:59is is an ecosystem to help people to be successful and and
- 38:04to, you know, Wade out those those low times together.
- 38:10Yeah. So, you know, we're bringing
- 38:11like he said technicians together, service providers,
- 38:15people have products for the mining industry and It's not
- 38:20just about having fun getting together and partying but it's
- 38:23about supporting each other and you know, hopefully we can
- 38:27accomplish that together here. So where do you see the
- 38:30industry? Five years from now, you were
- 38:33talking about. There's a bunch of things that
- 38:35needs to be done. Why are you saying that?
- 38:37Why you saying that mining is difficult?
- 38:40I want to know it, shouldn't it shouldn't be difficult.
- 38:43No, one of my previous business partners.
- 38:47He was very that kind of down in the dumps.
- 38:50And he said, mining should be easy that this shouldn't be this
- 38:55hard. Let's just plug some miners in,
- 38:58you know, get rid of all the other red tape.
- 39:00But it's not always not always that easy, it takes people.
- 39:05You know, you can't do this by yourself, you can't be an expert
- 39:08at everything, you can get good at some things, but you always
- 39:13need other people to be there around you.
- 39:17I can't even remember the original question.
- 39:19You Ask me. No, I mean so and I think that's
- 39:22one of the, you know, and I have someone in the chat, right.
- 39:25That said it. He's like how can I - I think
- 39:27that's one of the most perplexing things.
- 39:29How would you recommend if someone wanted to get into
- 39:31Bitcoin mining? How would you obviously tell
- 39:33them to come to the mining conference?
- 39:35But that's the cheat sheet if they're at home or perhaps, they
- 39:38don't have the privilege, you know, or they're not in the
- 39:40financial situation to afford a trip.
- 39:43Right? How would you recommend someone
- 39:45they just they want to get into mining.
- 39:46Maybe they don't have a lot of money.
- 39:48What would you tell them? Yeah.
- 39:50Yes, there's ways to do that, you know obviously just kind of
- 39:53learn a little bit about Bitcoin, learn a little bit
- 39:56about the technology, maybe just just buy an old cheap minor plug
- 40:02it in somewhere and figure out how it works.
- 40:04You know, like how do you connect it to a pool?
- 40:06How do you make sure that pool is paying out to your own
- 40:09wallet? Very small steps.
- 40:12It doesn't have to cost you a lot.
- 40:13You don't have to go all in with a hundred thousand dollars or
- 40:16something. Like day one very important.
- 40:20Yeah. You know past past your
- 40:21decisions by your spouse by your partner, by your friends.
- 40:26You know don't try to hide stuff and and try to do it together as
- 40:31a team, right? And then from there like you
- 40:35said, there's online communities, there's conferences
- 40:38like this. So we also do something that's
- 40:41called a build in mind boot camp where it's a five-day you go on
- 40:47to three hours every morning And we just learn as a community
- 40:52together and ask questions with each other and go through the
- 40:55process. One step at a time of everything
- 40:58you need to know to get a farm up and running basically like
- 41:02your first megawatt. And that's the most important
- 41:04thing. You know, everybody comes in
- 41:06with really big dreams and saying I'm going to build a
- 41:08hundred megawatt site and you know, that that I mean that's
- 41:11like hundreds of thousands of miners millions and millions of
- 41:15dollars but getting your first megawatt or even just getting
- 41:19your first Minor plugged in, you know, that you just got to take
- 41:22baby steps. Yeah.
- 41:24So let me ask you something. What are the forms of revenue
- 41:28for minors, right? Because it's not only mining.
- 41:30I think it's also selling machines at the right time,
- 41:32buying the machines at the right time.
- 41:34Yep, the definitely the timing. So if you do invest in a minor
- 41:41you know, maybe when the price of Bitcoins really high and also
- 41:44the price of the miners are very high, you can plug it in you,
- 41:48you might make your money back over time.
- 41:50I'm but it's not necessarily a less lost cause if you spent way
- 41:54too much on that minor, you might be able to make a little
- 41:56bit of your money back. If you sell that minor on the
- 42:00secondary Market to maybe upgrade to a newer latest
- 42:04greatest mining machine. But yeah, like they're saying
- 42:08there's a lot of different things in this industry that
- 42:12people can make money with and it's just a matter of figuring
- 42:16it out there. There's a lot of opportunity out
- 42:18there right now. So I'm going to ask this
- 42:21question to the entire panel and feel free to pick up the
- 42:23microphone if you want to answer.
- 42:25How has it changed since the China banned?
- 42:28Obviously we know for a fact that you know a tremendous
- 42:31amount of miners moved from China.
- 42:33They distributed all over the world but we know that a lot of
- 42:37them ended up in North America, right?
- 42:39How has the landscape changed? Is it more hopeful do you fear
- 42:42about, you know, over concentration of the mining hash
- 42:45rate in the United States? What your guys thoughts?
- 42:49Yeah, I mean I think the obvious one is like you said, you know,
- 42:52North America is kind of gobbled up a lot of the hash rate and
- 42:54we're kind of at, you know, crazy all time times at all-time
- 42:57highs in terms of global ashrae, which I think is awesome.
- 43:00I think there's again there's trade-offs.
- 43:03I think like, what we learned was that again you know, the
- 43:05market found out that certain you know certain geographies
- 43:10certain political systems probably aren't going to be you
- 43:12know, great long-term you might get you know, darn near free
- 43:15electricity. But you're you know, the risk is
- 43:17that overnight, they shut you off.
- 43:19Where I think. Absolutely.
- 43:22You don't want to have a concentration one geography, but
- 43:24I think one of the great things about, you know, at least the US
- 43:26is that we're pretty federalized.
- 43:29We have a lot of different states doing different things,
- 43:31different policies here and there so you know what?
- 43:33One state decides that doesn't really matter in most other
- 43:36states? I mean, everyone kind of can
- 43:38make their own decisions and I think the cool thing I've seen
- 43:40is it's like it's kind of been Bottoms Up, right?
- 43:42It's been very organic people on the ground saying, hey, I can
- 43:46plug in an Asic here. Hey, I can, you know, I can grab
- 43:48some power. Here, I think that like over the
- 43:51long term is going to be the best way to strengthen the
- 43:53network is, you know, Bottoms Up distributed and I think the u.s.
- 43:56is kind of Paving the way for that.
- 43:58Yeah, absolutely. So gonna have someone and
- 44:02actually want to get Scott's thoughts and opinions on this
- 44:05and it was Denver Bitcoin. He said he claimed that
- 44:08immersion was over. And someone said, you know, this
- 44:12is one of the comments from Sean says the machines are allowed
- 44:14space. Heaters you want space that will
- 44:16allow us. Don't even think about it in an
- 44:18apartment. Immersion is an option.
- 44:21But costly, what do you think about mining Bitcoin emerging
- 44:24for anyone? That doesn't know right?
- 44:25Usually, there's air flow rights fans that control the heat.
- 44:29But you could also dumped them in the form of liquid.
- 44:31I think it's like mineral oil or something.
- 44:33Yeah, a dielectric fluid. Yeah.
- 44:35So, that's really one of the biggest barriers to entry, as
- 44:40maybe a home minor, with, with mining Bitcoin, they use very
- 44:46heat intensive, energy, energy, and Intensive machines, and
- 44:51they're very loud, very hot. So if you can get over that
- 44:58barrier, it's a great thing. So some things that people are
- 45:03talking about here at the conference there's exhibitors
- 45:06and and speakers specifically talking about maybe how to reuse
- 45:11that heat to heat your home and then also how to mitigate the
- 45:17problem of the noise and Immersion is definitely one of
- 45:20those things to look into for that especially if people are
- 45:24going to be wanting to mine residentially or in an apartment
- 45:30or in, you know, in your basement taking away the noise
- 45:34and finding a way to dissipate that heat using liquid cooling,
- 45:40it definitely makes sense. But like you said, it is costly
- 45:44and it but in the last few years, I've seen those prices
- 45:47come down. So you know, yeah you can buy a
- 45:51simple rack and a power cord and plug your minor in and I can run
- 45:55off air. But there's there's Associated
- 45:59issues that come with that like your, your wife gets really mad
- 46:03or your house gets we do idea. So, yeah, the price is coming
- 46:09down though. People are figuring out the
- 46:12technology in order to make that cheaper and make it better make
- 46:16it more efficient and and yes some of the actual Features
- 46:19here, like bit Main mikrobitti and and Canaan.
- 46:25They're all kind of secretly working on on things in the
- 46:27background that I think we're going to see very soon that will
- 46:29make it easier. But, yeah, I think just walking
- 46:33around this expo hall this week. You get some really great ideas
- 46:40on that. Absolutely, you know, and I can
- 46:43attest to that 100% unique. Oh, excuse me, I want to ask
- 46:48you. Sonic question because I saw
- 46:52your, I saw your talk yesterday and I thought it was very
- 46:54interesting at the end when you were telling everyone what your
- 46:57favorite Asic was. So maybe could you rehash what
- 47:00you were saying on your favorite a sick or maybe just the idea of
- 47:07excuse me. Guys of more hash may like more
- 47:10hash power per Terror. Hash / you know the higher the
- 47:14hash power coming out the A6, may not be the best move for
- 47:16most people. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
- 47:20I mean there's trade-offs for everything.
- 47:22So I think everybody wants to sell their product.
- 47:26I want to sell product, I sell Bitcoin miners, but Yeah, I
- 47:32mean, okay, I want to I want to talk real quick.
- 47:34I'll get to that but okay, so what Denver is referring to?
- 47:38So I don't know if you can see it behind us but bit main has a
- 47:41water-cooled product. What's minor has a water cool
- 47:44product. Here, liquid, cooling is better
- 47:47than air cooling air: presents problems.
- 47:49It's just not as efficient as liquid cooling, and so that I
- 47:52think that's what he's referring to, but immersion is not going
- 47:56anywhere in the near future because there's are called
- 48:00machines that can be converted. Did and profitably mind an
- 48:03immersion, they kind of go back to your your question Opti or
- 48:08Optimist. Yeah.
- 48:11I mean my favorite Asic is the one that works for my situation.
- 48:15It's one that I can get for a good price.
- 48:17Oftentimes the brand new unit is going to be way more expensive
- 48:22than an older unit. Might not make sense to buy it
- 48:25just because it's that brand new thing.
- 48:27Like as miners I think it's important to think about ending
- 48:31up With more Bitcoin. Especially if you're looking to
- 48:34mine it home and oftentimes it doesn't make sense to my home.
- 48:38Oftentimes it just doesn't make sense to mind in general.
- 48:42I mean if you have higher power rates is exclusive and you know,
- 48:47the goal is you want to price the machine and sads estimate
- 48:51your revenue and sad sand and ensure that you have more
- 48:55Bitcoin in the long run. But yeah, there's a bunch of
- 48:58different manufacturers. I think it's important to get
- 49:00one that has Has been out for a little bit.
- 49:04You know, if you go and you buy first production runs, it's more
- 49:06likely to have issues. So is this if Denver Bitcoin was
- 49:11looking at you? What would you say to this?
- 49:13And he says, for audio listeners, I'm telling you.
- 49:16I'm telling ya water. Cool going to make immersion
- 49:19just impractical immersion. Might survive the decade, but it
- 49:21won't drive into the future. And you any any thoughts about
- 49:24that Scott? It really depends.
- 49:27If the manufacturers start making these things from the
- 49:30very beginning designed specifically for that, you know,
- 49:35right now, everything's being retrofitted.
- 49:38So yeah, I think it could go either way.
- 49:41I'm not sure how well the manufacturers are actually
- 49:46listening to their customers. But but yeah, we'll see, we will
- 49:52see. We will see you heard that
- 49:54Denver Tucson. I see you.
- 49:55Of the micro. What do you want to say?
- 49:57Yeah, I mean why are minors doing this miners?
- 50:00Do all sorts of queer, crazy people.
- 50:02We want to do things and all sorts of different weird unique
- 50:05ways, we have diverse use cases for mining, the manufacturers,
- 50:10make things, you know, specific way.
- 50:12I think water cooling makes a lot of sense and I'm very
- 50:15excited that this is being rolled out.
- 50:17I think there's massive benefits to it, but being miners, we're
- 50:22going to still want to do weird things.
- 50:24So, yeah, I mean, I I think it's fair but you know, water cooling
- 50:27provides its own set of headaches and issues.
- 50:30You know. You need really.
- 50:31You hear that Denver Tucson want to meet you outside.
- 50:34All right guys. Yeah.
- 50:35And and it does need to be said. That water.
- 50:38Cooling is different from liquid immersion.
- 50:42So yeah, there's a whole other topic though.
- 50:45Yeah, I think like it'll just be, you know, different
- 50:48different Technologies applied in different situations, right?
- 50:50It's just going to be, you know, more Innovation is going to be a
- 50:53mixed bag of what people want to use where they want to use it.
- 50:55They can get it, you know, where they can deploy it mean, I think
- 50:58the more the better so just like energy generation, right?
- 51:00There's not going to be one size fits all so and I just wanted to
- 51:04add to Scotts point, right? Immersion is when you actually
- 51:06dip the chips into a liquid water, cooling is when you use
- 51:10the water on the outside of the chip to cool it down and air
- 51:13cooling is when you use are obviously.
- 51:15But anyways guys this time for the movie.
- 51:17Let's check it out. Yeah.
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- 51:51the meme of the meme review. Tweets are the bullets and memes
- 51:55are the artillery out there and it's information War.
- 51:58You guys are on the front lines, continue to meme, people
- 52:01continue to get the cause of actions continue to make the
- 52:03funnies because we need to spread this information.
- 52:07This first one, I don't think Stefan the bear was the first
- 52:10one, but this is the first one I saw this morning.
- 52:12It's a little Savage for those people that got caught up in
- 52:15this mess, but it's a flag that says, Mark says, from Celsius
- 52:19doxing today, Day. So guys, you know, we don't want
- 52:23to jump on people's pain. You know.
- 52:25We don't want to kick a dead horse, but this is why we tell
- 52:27you guys to take self custody and do not Chase yield on these
- 52:31very scammy yield providing platform anyway.
- 52:34This next one on, one of our news yesterday, we covered the
- 52:38EU banning all Russian, quote unquote, crypto asset wallets
- 52:42and then we got this meme. I'm pretty sure this one's an
- 52:46old one that's been rehashed but you had to put them out.
- 52:50You got to pull out those I mean from your very deep folder
- 52:53history in your phone and it goes the EU, how to stop Bitcoin
- 52:57and an orange little bit coin, you can't laughing my ass off.
- 53:00This next one, we're going to continue to double down on this
- 53:03idea because it seems like the world is exploding around us.
- 53:07Dylan Leclair with the standard MPC party meme.
- 53:11They don't know the sovereign debt.
- 53:13Bubble is bursting. Yes, it seems like the world is
- 53:16unraveling by the seams as we speak.
- 53:18This next one is my lightning Ventures.
- 53:21And I'm a fan of lightning and it's way better than zap, a
- 53:24pallet read Mo, but this is the same boat just blows, you know,
- 53:29butter and he's the lightning Network and this is where we are
- 53:32in the story. We're just looking back at
- 53:34everyone else and we have the best tools.
- 53:36So this next one is a continuation on all the things.
- 53:40We tell you guys stay humble Stacks ads.
- 53:43Very psychedelic Bitcoins dollars with Easter Island,
- 53:48having laser eyes, so amazing. Amazing.
- 53:50Next one, this one doesn't get me in trouble, but I think the
- 53:54good message this from Roth miss you guys Banks and sure we stay
- 53:58in debt, big Pharma ensures, we stay sick weapons manufacturers
- 54:02and sure we stay at will or Legacy Media ensures.
- 54:06We stay ignorant, government sure's, it's all legal and
- 54:09voting ensures. It will only vote.
- 54:12That matters is opted Bitcoin with your money and your feet.
- 54:17Bitcoin allows, both of those guys, we need to continue to
- 54:19spread the signal And then this last one just to wrap it all up.
- 54:24This is my Norman remmaneh goes. Apparently I'm in a Bitcoin cult
- 54:27so get in loser. The Bitcoin coal is better than
- 54:30the Fiat cult. Yes you guys.
- 54:32All you feel like Max he's out there are in a cult as well and
- 54:36the Bitcoin Cole is a lot better.
- 54:39You can't convince me. Otherwise anyways my mean review
- 54:42score today is my my empty Kaboom racks coffee.
- 54:47It's only my second one. That's the score.
- 54:49I think I gave it yesterday but this is Second coffee today, not
- 54:53second coffee in general such as coffee today.
- 54:57But Kaboom X, Kaboom Rex. I'm gonna give it this mining
- 55:02conference VIP Scott. Do you have your medallion Scott
- 55:07has every ribbon put on his all of the flare, all the flare.
- 55:12So I'm going to give it the VIP ribbon.
- 55:15And oh I give these memes one free drink to the Friday.
- 55:21Wrap party later tonight Scott has a money printer and when I
- 55:25mean that he has he has all the free drink tickets.
- 55:29He's like the Federal Reserve but of tickets to huh.
- 55:34That's my my God. Okay there we go.
- 55:35I heard that Scott's going to be leading karaoke later tonight.
- 55:38Yep I heard that. Yeah.
- 55:40Or was that the more highly educated?
- 55:45Did Scott Oxford. Oh, God Oxford.
- 55:50I know that I feel, you know, kind of ashamed right now
- 55:54because the the score I'm going to give, I don't have it in
- 55:58hand, but there's these wonderful Scott offered stickers
- 56:02floating around. I'm going to give it a Scott
- 56:04offered sticker. Those are some pretty good M on
- 56:06Scott offered sticker. I'm going to try to pull up.
- 56:08I don't know what you're talking about.
- 56:09I think I have one in my backpack, over here, I can pull
- 56:12out the little one. I got it.
- 56:21I got it. I got it.
- 56:23I'm going to pull it up. I got you guys.
- 56:28That's not the one with me in the space suit though.
- 56:31Oh it's a new one. All right, opt he's taking too
- 56:36much time, Tom. Well, Opti finds it.
- 56:40Can't find it. Yeah, there it is.
- 56:46Okay. Wow.
- 56:49All right. I'll give it a secret.
- 56:51Kaboom rack her I found on my back after bowling last night
- 56:55after hanging out with this guy all night, but it on there for
- 56:58good luck. Yeah, he put stickers
- 57:00everywhere. Kaboom anyways, guys, we want to
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- 57:33running out of time today. Let's wrap it up, brother.
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- 58:02LTD dies. We do have some meme scores in
- 58:04here. Nico, yeah, yeah.
- 58:05I'm gonna get to that. I'm gonna get to that when I get
- 58:07to that. All right, let's see what
- 58:08everybody's saying. All right Opti.
- 58:10Pull them up and I will read them.
- 58:14Alright, alright, let's see, X demos, extend, most gives the
- 58:18memes a Pacific Bitcoin ticket, very nice.
- 58:20Very nice beaches you pins. I give the memes a piñata full
- 58:25of scorpions. I don't know if I can pull this
- 58:28one up on YouTube for Unique. Oh, that might get us in
- 58:31trouble. Not definitely, not that one.
- 58:34Mr. Robot rate. Those one dancing.
- 58:35Niko. When he pulls multiple strikes,
- 58:37that's right. I was getting excited.
- 58:40Bowling those strikes. And his next one is I give those
- 58:43memes, simply Bitcoin panel, high-five.
- 58:45Let's go guys. Do it.
- 58:47Thanks to you genus, the genus we will Scott, you're leaving me
- 58:51hanging his hat. Oh yeah.
- 58:54And Okay and also we're going to Diaw Janice is new.
- 59:01Intro is going to be introduced on Mondays.
- 59:02I'm really excited for that. I give them my tequila
- 59:05scintilla. Tequila cool.
- 59:07Desu. NE we don't approve of that.
- 59:08That might ruin the minor Clash, Five Guys.
- 59:13Hi Five the astrology matches up all right planet Earth.
- 59:17Give those memes some Friday night bubs bubs and last but not
- 59:23least, that's it. All right, we're balanced.
- 59:25That's the one. Anwar.
- 59:26There is one more alright hottel coins as they give those memes
- 59:31weapons of mass destruction sponsored by the FED very, very
- 59:34powerful. Alright guys, that was our show.
- 59:36That was the simply Bitcoin Friday, special live from the
- 59:40mining conference. We're going to continue the show
- 59:43exclusively on Twitter spaces. I'm going to make laps around
- 59:47the conference while Opti hodza huddle.
- 59:50Is it down. Holds it down a little, little
- 59:52slip there bottle. Is it down, and I'm going to try
- 59:55to get people. So from bit main from what's
- 59:57minor from Luxor and we're going to get their thoughts opinions
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