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LNC Comes Back Ashore · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Kasten, and with me as always is the
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  Speaker 1: delightful Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: Some people claim there's a lawn company to blame, but
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  Speaker 2: I know it's my own damn fault.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're really good at actually kicking them out
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  Speaker 1: of the audio, so I don't know if people would
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  Speaker 1: know if we didn't mention it.
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  Speaker 2: What's funny, y'all, is that literally before we started recording,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, literally, we were having a conversation about Ariel's
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  Speaker 2: space and soundproofing it for other things, not just for
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  Speaker 2: this show necessarily.
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  Speaker 1: But also for you guys.
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  Speaker 2: But also for this show, but primarily for some of
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  Speaker 2: her other work, some of her professional acting work. And
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  Speaker 2: she was saying, I feel like unless the lawn crew's here,
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  Speaker 2: you don't really hear a lot of extraneous noise. And
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  Speaker 2: I was agreeing with that. I couldn't hear any lawn
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  Speaker 2: noise either. And then immediately, as soon as I hit record,
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  Speaker 2: like a split second after I hit record, we start
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  Speaker 2: hearing the like weed whacker sound outside.
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  Speaker 1: I've been at it since 8 a.m. And it's so frustrating.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear it at all when you were telling
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  Speaker 2: me your plans and everything or your challenges that you're facing.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear any lawn noise at all. Literally, as
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  Speaker 2: we're starting to record, I hear it. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: there it is.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think like they are tuned in like
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  Speaker 1: they're they're spying on us. Right. And they do it
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  Speaker 1: on purpose. But also I do live like my community
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  Speaker 1: has basically like three lobes, like like a fidget spinner
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  Speaker 1: with three sides or Mickey Mouse.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like right at the center.
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  Speaker 2: So you're at the hub. Yeah. As Walt Disney would say.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And like we've talked about maybe trying to
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  Speaker 1: record at a different time of day, but like when
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  Speaker 1: they start at 8 a.m. and they're still going at two.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's not really a time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And Fridays are like our our sweet spot in our
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  Speaker 2: schedules for being able to record. So we only we
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  Speaker 2: have limited options available to us. But of course, we
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  Speaker 2: are back after a long hiatus where I was I
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  Speaker 2: was away. I was like not even in the country
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  Speaker 2: for most of September.
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  Speaker 1: So lucky duck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I went on two different cruises. Plus, uh, I
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  Speaker 2: did spend three days at Walt Disney world. So that's
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  Speaker 2: in the country, but the, for 12 nights I was,
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  Speaker 2: I was at sea international waters. Yeah. Yeah. I went
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  Speaker 2: to Mexico and the Bahamas and Jamaica and grand Cayman.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get off the boat at any of them.
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  Speaker 2: So for the Bahamas for, for Disney's. Yeah, no, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't get off the boat. Like I was good. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I don't need to go. Um, honestly, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I've told people this story. Like the first,
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  Speaker 2: the first cruise was with me, my partner and five
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  Speaker 2: other people. So seven of us total, three of whom
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  Speaker 2: were over the age of 75. The second cruise was
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  Speaker 2: just me and my partner to recover from the first cruise.
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  Speaker 2: And I will say this, like I've been on the,
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  Speaker 2: I've now been on the Disney treasure, which was, I
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  Speaker 2: had never been on it before and, The first cruise
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  Speaker 2: was on the fantasy. The second cruise was on the treasure.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't really like the layout of the wish class.
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  Speaker 2: I'm one of those grouchy people who just doesn't care
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  Speaker 2: for that particular layout. I do like the theming of
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  Speaker 2: the lounges, but they all are so small that it
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  Speaker 2: was challenging to get space in them for most of
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  Speaker 2: the cruise. It's really unfortunate. Like they have a haunted
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  Speaker 2: mansion themed lounge where they actually have effects go off,
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  Speaker 2: which was fun. but hard to get into. And then
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  Speaker 2: there was a 20,000 leagues under the sea theme lounge,
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  Speaker 2: which I thought was beautiful when I first walked through it.
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  Speaker 2: But then every other time I went in, it served
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  Speaker 2: as a sports bar. So all the walls had like
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  Speaker 2: multiple screens showing football and it totally destroys the theming, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like you're like, well, this doesn't feel like I'm in
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  Speaker 2: a Periscope pub anymore. It feels like I'm in a
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  Speaker 2: sports bar. So there are things that kind of rubbed
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  Speaker 2: me the wrong way. But overall, the actual experience, all
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  Speaker 2: the people on board, all that was nice. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: more more good than bad.
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  Speaker 1: I think Disney for the sports bar should have like
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  Speaker 1: a camera that they drop down unless there's bad weather
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  Speaker 1: that just records undersea kind of like the Nautilus and
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  Speaker 1: just put that on all the channels.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they have like a so they have their
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  Speaker 2: ceiling is a screen. It's designed to look like it's
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  Speaker 2: a canopy, like a ocean canopy where you can look
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  Speaker 2: up and you see the silhouettes of sharks and fish
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  Speaker 2: swimming overhead. And that's kind of cool. But again, if
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  Speaker 2: every other surface is showing Monday Night Football, then it
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  Speaker 2: kind of loses its effect, in my opinion. But we're back.
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  Speaker 2: We are skipping over tons of stuff that happened in
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  Speaker 2: September because like Otherwise, this would be a six hour
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  Speaker 2: long episode. And we're just going to focus mostly on
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  Speaker 2: things that have unfolded within the last few days as
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  Speaker 2: far as the pop culture stuff goes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. You know, there are some things that
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we definitely need to talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll bring them up, but not too much because
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  Speaker 1: it is a big episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Even even just focusing on the last like there are
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  Speaker 2: a couple of things that are a little older, but
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  Speaker 2: mostly I was focusing on the last week. But even then,
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  Speaker 2: Lots of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So I guess what we start with trying
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  Speaker 1: to remember how this goes, it's just been so long.
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  Speaker 1: And my memory, what it used to.
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  Speaker 2: Normally we would ask a question, but I deleted the
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  Speaker 2: question of the week for this week. So it's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's too much already. So instead we'll talk about stuff
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  Speaker 2: we've seen since the last time we recorded the keeping
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  Speaker 2: in mind. That was a month ago.
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  Speaker 1: Lord almighty. Well, I have, I have not kept track
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  Speaker 1: of all of it. But some of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I have, I have watched. the new season of Taskmaster started. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it might've started before you left. Cause I think we're
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  Speaker 1: on episode five, but regardless, it is a delightful cast.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Richard A. Awati would be my favorite contestant,
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  Speaker 1: but he's not. It's Chloe Pets. They're absolutely hilarious, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying the season. Um, I'm watching Ted Lasso though.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't watched this week's episode yet. Um, I'm rewatching
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  Speaker 1: Spider Noir, which I like better the second time around. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: I am caught up on Lanterns. I really liked the
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  Speaker 1: last two episodes. I feel like the second half of
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  Speaker 1: the season is going a direction I enjoy more than
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  Speaker 1: the first half, though I have friends who disagree with me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan's one of them. I guess we'll find out. I
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  Speaker 1: have started watching Widow's Bay. It's way scarier than I thought.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, come on.
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  Speaker 1: The sea hag was scary. The clown was scary. I
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  Speaker 1: now just got I'm in the episode after the history episode.
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  Speaker 2: I like the history episode a lot. I think some
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  Speaker 2: people got thrown off because it's such a departure from
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  Speaker 2: the main storyline, but I really liked it.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think the casting in that was brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: Betty Gilpin and Hamish Linklater were just perfect for the
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  Speaker 1: right amount of like. Creepy, but appealing.
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  Speaker 2: There was one silent moment in that episode that made
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  Speaker 2: me laugh. Like, like it was one of those like
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  Speaker 2: shout laughs, like, ha, like one of those. And I,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't a video podcast, so I can't really do it,
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  Speaker 2: but she was like doing a little pointy thing in
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  Speaker 2: the bed. And like, that made me laugh out loud
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  Speaker 2: when I saw it. I was like, what a brilliant,
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  Speaker 2: cause like most of that episode's not that comedic. It's
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  Speaker 2: actually pretty, pretty dramatic and sad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's, it's, it's sad. It's a little scary. at
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  Speaker 1: points um again hamish lincolner just did this really good
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  Speaker 1: job of like he plays richard warren who is actually
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  Speaker 1: a real person who in the story of widow's bay
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  Speaker 1: is the kind of the is the antagonist though with
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  Speaker 1: some vaguely understandable reasoning behind his original motivations at least
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  Speaker 1: um really good job at being incredibly unsettling and unlikable
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  Speaker 1: except for the moments where he's likable and you're like
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  Speaker 1: oh there is humanity it's just very well done um
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  Speaker 1: yeah and the previous episode where the mayor was on
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  Speaker 1: his uh psychedelic trip was also exceptionally well done they
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  Speaker 1: did some like things in that that just i found
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  Speaker 1: truly disturbing like for camera work and stuff like that
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  Speaker 1: but it was also funny it was it's very good
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  Speaker 1: i'm enjoying it um but like i was watching it
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  Speaker 1: in the basement by myself in the morning when it
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  Speaker 1: was still dark or and once at night when it
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  Speaker 1: was dark by myself and i'm like oh i can't
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  Speaker 1: do this this is not good for an aerial just
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  Speaker 1: because things coming out of the dark is terrifying to.
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  Speaker 2: Me yeah we we binged that series in a dark
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  Speaker 2: cabin in the middle of the georgia woods and i
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  Speaker 2: just thought it was great like i the thing i
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  Speaker 2: love about that series i wasn't but i was with
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  Speaker 2: two scaredy cats um and one scaredy dog uh but
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  Speaker 2: no the uh the the thing i love most about
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  Speaker 2: that show is how every episode is kind of a
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  Speaker 2: different genre of horror which is fun like you get
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  Speaker 2: you get ghost story you get seaside town uh you
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  Speaker 2: get um uh you get uh another one that's like
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  Speaker 2: um you haven't seen it yet but there's like a
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  Speaker 2: classic 80s slasher movie kind of episode looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 1: Um i did have to it's fun it is fun
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  Speaker 1: it is scary and i'm enjoying it and i will
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  Speaker 1: finish this season and i'll watch the next season tony
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  Speaker 1: again i feel like it really picks up after the
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  Speaker 1: first episode um maybe i'll get tony to watch it
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  Speaker 1: at some point but um like it's just it's scary
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  Speaker 1: enough i had to read what happens in the story
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  Speaker 1: so i knew in advance but i'm still enjoying it Um,
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  Speaker 1: and then I watched the, not the first episode. I
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  Speaker 1: watched one of the new episodes of drunk history, the
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  Speaker 1: one with Lisa Gilroy talking about FDR. And that was
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  Speaker 1: super delightful.
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  Speaker 2: Well, uh, so stuff that I've seen, well, I saw,
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  Speaker 2: I saw a stage production of Moana on, on the treasure.
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  Speaker 2: That was really good. They did a good job. Lots
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  Speaker 2: of really cool puppets. Um, I did not see Avengers
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  Speaker 2: Endgame Encore, even though they were showing that on the
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  Speaker 2: boat because I wasn't willing to take three and a
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  Speaker 2: half hours out of my vacation to watch a movie
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  Speaker 2: I've already seen. But I did. I did watch. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm sick right now. And while I was like convalescing,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I want to watch a movie. So
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  Speaker 2: I watched Normal. That's the Bob Odenkirk movie where he plays.
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  Speaker 2: a guy who's filling in for a, a sheriff of
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  Speaker 2: a town while the town is preparing to, to vote
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  Speaker 2: in a new sheriff. And he figures out something weird
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  Speaker 2: is going on with the town. And, uh, then everything
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  Speaker 2: kind of explodes in an, uh, orgy of violence sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing. Um, I didn't like it. I was hoping
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  Speaker 2: I would like it. Like I liked it even less
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  Speaker 2: than I liked nobody. And I didn't really like nobody
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  Speaker 2: that much, but, like Bob Odenkirk is very charismatic I
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  Speaker 2: like him but I texted Ariel about this and I
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  Speaker 2: talked to my wife about it too I was like
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  Speaker 2: it feels like this was written by AI like it's
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  Speaker 2: just not very good I don't think it was written
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  Speaker 2: by AI by the way that's not an accusation I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it was it's more of an accusation of
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the screenwriter is very good yeah Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't like it very much at all. I
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  Speaker 2: finished Stuart Fails to Save the Universe for the season.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know why, because apart from that one episode that
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  Speaker 2: I really liked, I never liked another episode. They were
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  Speaker 2: fine at best. But there was one episode that I
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  Speaker 2: thought was quite good, and all the rest I felt
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  Speaker 2: were kind of mediocre. It ends on a kind of
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  Speaker 2: interesting note, but Then there was an interview with Chuck Lorre,
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  Speaker 2: who's like the lead show creator for that. He's like
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: the guy behind Big Bang Theory and all that. Those
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  Speaker 2: two and a half men, tons of different shows. And
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  Speaker 2: he essentially admitted that they didn't know where they were
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  Speaker 2: going when they started writing it. And so they would
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  Speaker 2: just write themselves in the corners and stuff. And I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that explains it. It also explains why there was one
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  Speaker 2: episode that I thought was good, but it wasn't able
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  Speaker 2: to follow through because they clearly they weren't planning it.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't. you know, the sad thing is good.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, kind of like the sad thing is it, it,
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  Speaker 2: it puts it in contrast with Vince Gilligan's pluribus because
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  Speaker 2: Vince Gilligan said he also wasn't planning everything out way
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  Speaker 2: ahead of time and would write himself into corners. The
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  Speaker 2: problem is that Vince Gilligan, he's actually a good writer
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  Speaker 2: and the stuff he writes, I find compelling. Whereas Chuck
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  Speaker 2: Lorre's group, not so much. Um, I finished creature season
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  Speaker 2: four man, meat mountain. In other words, man, meat mountain
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  Speaker 2: beat up everybody who needed beating up kind of how
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  Speaker 2: you expect it. And I also watched the first two
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  Speaker 2: episodes of the animated series golden ax. I, I want
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  Speaker 2: to see that.
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  Speaker 1: I actually, I want to cosplay Tyrus. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The, the warrior slash magic woman. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Cause she's, big and has red hair and
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  Speaker 1: I think I could play her pretty well but I
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  Speaker 1: haven't watched it yet because I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Have Paramount at one point you don't need Paramount the
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  Speaker 2: first two episodes were on YouTube that's where I watched
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  Speaker 2: them because I don't have Paramount either but there is
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  Speaker 2: a point where she makes a joke about her costume
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  Speaker 2: not being nearly revealing enough that's.
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  Speaker 1: Part of what I like about it too.
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  Speaker 2: I thought so I thought Golden Axe I was like
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  Speaker 2: I defended Golden Axe when the trailers came out because
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people were saying, this is goofy, silly stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's an arcade game, y'all. It's like there's nothing to
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  Speaker 2: that arcade game. There's no real story. It's just a beat-em-up.
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  Speaker 2: It's a beat-em-up with a fantasy overlay. That's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that you're asking for some sort of gritty, dark,
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  Speaker 2: compelling story is just saying more about you than the material. However,
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  Speaker 2: I also don't think they really managed to make a
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  Speaker 2: funny show. Like, like I don't, I don't mind that
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  Speaker 2: it's a comedy. I just don't think it's a very
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  Speaker 2: funny comedy. And it is sad because like Danny Pudi
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  Speaker 2: is one of the voice actors in it.
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  Speaker 1: Um, Lisa Gilroy, uh.
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  Speaker 2: Lisa Gilroy, as is like the, the guy from widow's Bay.
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  Speaker 2: I think, I think he voices the dwarf. Uh, anyway, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's unrecognizable by the way, when you listen to it,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, I can't even tell us the same guy. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's okay. It's not, I didn't think it's that good. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think it was terrible. I just thought it
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  Speaker 2: was very mediocre. So I'm not getting bare amount plus
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  Speaker 2: to watch the rest of it. Two episodes was enough
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  Speaker 2: to convince me like, okay, I respect what you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to do, even though I don't think you're achieving it,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe it'll just take him a while to kind
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  Speaker 2: of get into the groove, but that's it for me.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I've, I've really seen. That's in the geek sphere. I,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I rewatched a ton of stuff on the cruise,
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  Speaker 2: but that doesn't count.
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  Speaker 1: I look forward to hearing your thoughts once you catch
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  Speaker 1: up on Lanterns.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm behind on that. I haven't watched a new
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  Speaker 2: episode since I went on my trip. So there's at
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  Speaker 2: least I think there's three episodes I haven't seen. They've
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  Speaker 2: done seven, right? So far, I think. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: I think it's eight total. And so the next one's
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  Speaker 2: the finale, I think. But I haven't seen anything after
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  Speaker 2: the fourth episode, I think so. I've got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of catching up to do. We talked about doing it
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  Speaker 2: last night, but I was like, I have got to
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  Speaker 2: go to bed. I am dying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Cold.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, that makes sense, but I do look
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  Speaker 1: forward to hearing. So I didn't see normal, but I
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  Speaker 1: did watch nobody too recently. I didn't, I liked it
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  Speaker 1: better than nobody. One wasn't good, but it was fine
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  Speaker 1: and fun enough. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: In, in normal Odenkirk isn't playing like an, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he is kind of like an unstoppable killing machine, but
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  Speaker 2: only mostly by accident. It's not like he's he's not
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be playing some sort of incredibly capable, like
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  Speaker 2: black ops kind of cleaner sort of character like he
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  Speaker 2: is in the nobody movies. He's just supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: a sheriff. But, you know, when it comes to him
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  Speaker 2: and two bank robbers. fighting off an entire town and
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  Speaker 2: doing so successfully to two members of which, well, okay. One,
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  Speaker 2: cause one's already been dispatched, but one of whom is
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: actually in the Yakuza, uh, a member of the town. Like, um,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It stretches, it stretches credulity beyond, uh,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: any ability for me to suspend my disbelief. And, um,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I just I don't know. Like, I wanted to like it.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: There has a lot of people in it that like
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Henry Winkler's in it. He's fun, but it just didn't
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: work for me.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. Well, that's a lot of stuff to have watched.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So we should we should.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: So we should move on to our 30 seconds or less.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: And I think I go first this time.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: You do.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Well, here we go. Earlier this year, we talked about
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: how Paramount was hedging bets by having different writers turn
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: in treatments for a new G.I. Joe movie. They passed
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: on Max Landis's treatment. That's a good thing. But they
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: picked up Danny McBride's version. McBride will direct and Bradley
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Cooper has been signed on to star as Duke. That's
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: about all we know for now. And that's half the
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: battle or something.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: From G.I. Joe battles to space battles Kathleen Kennedy is
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: stepping down from Lucasfilms after 14 years she says it's
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: a bit of a relief which after reading her story
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: of how it got handed over to her when she's
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: like well what stories do you have George Lucas he's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: like don't worry it's all in your head I would
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: be a bit relieved too it is Lucasfilms is being
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: handed over to David Filoni and Linwin.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Brennan Yeah, Filoni, I believe, was the guy behind The
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Mandalorian show, along with Favreau. Anyway, looks like next year
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: we're going to get two different movies based on the
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: SCP Foundation, one from A24 and one from Neon. SCP
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: stands for Special Containment Procedures, the focus of a user-generated
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: wiki filled with fictional stories of spooky, paranormal, and supernatural phenomena.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like a crowdsourced X-Files. Neon's play is
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to tap up incoming filmmakers to create an anthology, which
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: could be kind of cool.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence has been announced to be in Zach Krieger's
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: new sci-fi thriller, The Flood, which will begin filming. in
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Europe in the beginning of 2027 for theatrical release in 2028.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I actually don't know much about this film, so that's
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: really all I got to say at this point.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I did see that he said, while it's not a
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: horror film, there are some truly horrific elements in the film.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: So that sounds interesting to me.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just sad it's going to be in Europe and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: not in Georgia because, you know.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, maybe you don't have an IMAX theater with
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Infinity Vision near you, or maybe you weren't ready to
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: surrender more than three hours to Avengers Endgame Encore. But
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: perhaps you might want to know what extra stuff was included.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: So here goes. And you can skip ahead 30 seconds
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: if you don't want spoilers. Loki interrupts Steve and Peggy
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: as they dance together to say he's there to help.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: The TVA staff watches various universes experience incursions across the
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: whole timeline. Dr. Doom visits the Hulk in what is
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: supposed to be an underground secure bunker, and we get
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the hammering sound from Iron Man forging his armor in
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a cave from a box of scraps! Except now it's Dr.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Doom forging his mask. Alright, done with spoilers now.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Well... enough people did go see it because on its
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: re-release into theaters, Endgame Encore made $ 86 million go globally.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: That puts it just behind Avatar, who is the highest
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: grossing film of all time worldwide to be the second highest. Yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Pretty incredible. The Game of Thrones.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: No, that's a different property.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The Game of Thrones universe is headed to the
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: cinemas in 2029 with a film titled Aegon's Conquest. As
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the title indicates, the story will follow Aegon Targaryen, later
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: King Aegon I, as he conquers the lands of Westeros
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and establishes the Iron Throne. These events happened more than
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: two and a half centuries before the Song of Ice
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: and Fire series, a.k.a. the main Game of Thrones television series.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Going back to Marvel, because I'm still like, I have
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this. In the success of Endgame Encore, they're
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: talking about possibly re-releasing Spider-Man Brand New Day with some
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: previously cut footage, including Rosario Dawson playing Claire, who's a
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I really like the character and I really like Rosario Dawson. However,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I thought Spider-Man Brand New Day was a good movie
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: as is. I was recently talking to somebody who's just
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: stepping into the Lord of the Rings movies and was
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: really struggling because they couldn't find the original cut of
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the Return of the King. And otherwise it is super,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: super long. And, you know, while I do like the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: extended version, I think that the editing in the original
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: was great. And sometimes you should stick with that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Sony plans to make a live-action series
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: based on the Spider-Man Clone Saga comic book arc, which
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: is weird considering that tons of fans and many creatives
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: within Marvel itself really hated that storyline when it debuted.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: In the 90s.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe after it had bombs like Madam Web and Morbius,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Sony thinks the problem was a lack of Spider-Man. So
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: their solution is to have way more Spider-Man with clones
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: of Spider-Man. Also, Tom Holland presumably won't be in this.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: So it's more like Spider-Man without Spider-Man, but with more Spider-Man.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a sure hit to me.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: This is a spoiler. So jump ahead another 30 seconds.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: This is based on what you said.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: We have to talk about this because, uh, Skip ahead
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: if you don't want to know this, if you haven't
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: watched Spider-Noir. Nick Cage's character is a clone. Of Spider-Man.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's Ben Reilly.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Who is a clone of Spider-Man? So it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: interesting that they canceled Spider-Noir to then pick this up.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: And I wonder if that was always meant to be
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: kind of a gateway to it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: It's weird because. I mean. From the comics, I don't
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: know if Spider-Noir is the same Spider-Noir as in the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: comic Spider-Noir. What I know about the Clone Saga is
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: just that a lot of people really found the Marvel's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: decisions to be perplexing. Like, in the story, it turns
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: out that Peter Parker, everyone knew and loved, was a clone,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and that another character is not? I don't know. Like,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: is the actual Peter Parker? And, like, people got real
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: mad because they're like, we have so much emotional investment
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: in this character and now you're telling us, Oh, by
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the way, that's not the real guy.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: They ended up walking that back by the way. So
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: it just shows how, what a huge mess that was.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But I did like spider noir and also
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I liked their other Spider-Man stuff and I didn't hate Venom. Okay.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Did you do your story after that?
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: No, I did not. Do you want me to?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, I have one. Sorry. We got, I, I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: started a conversation, but first we got it before you
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: do your last story. Um, we got to talk about
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the sequel to K-pop demon hunters, which is done by
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the same studio that does the into the spider verse movies,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: which are also Sony. I think, um, And very good. Um,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: we know they take a long time to make a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: movie because they really work on making it good. And
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: so the sequel to K-pop demon hunters will come out
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: in 2029. Uh, Netflix is also planning on giving it
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a theatrical release. So I guess they're determining that that
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: model is going to potentially work in their benefit. I'm
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: not opposed to it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We've got another story later on about a movie
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: that's going to get a brief theatrical release just before
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: it comes to Netflix. But, uh, My last piece is
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: that Simon Afrom, who wrote the upcoming film Fortitude, will
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: get his first shot at directing with a film he
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: wrote titled Clay. That's actually an acronym. It stands for
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Clowns Laughing At You. Not making that up. It's about
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: a hacker who falls in with a bunch of other
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: hackers and their shenanigans online end up having dark consequences
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: in the real world, which prompts law enforcement to look
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: into them. nicholas cage and michael sheen are attached so
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: uh could be an interesting cyber thriller kind of movie
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: uh the.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: The last thing i want to mention because it's not
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: in our show notes um and you probably saw this
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: it's a bit older is the news about the magician's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: nephew that gregory is doing that it's going to be
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: set closer to like the 50s post-war world war one
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: maybe world war two.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: And it's going to be a rock. It's definitely post-World
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: War II.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Because World War II ended in 1945.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And that, and that it's going to be a rock
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: opera because she was very inspired by David Bowie. And
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: so very.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: You're kidding about that, right?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: No.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a rock opera.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And Meryl Streep is doing the voice of Aslan.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. This sounds like trolling.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Like, so they aren't, they aren't, I, you know, it's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: a fantasy story and that's fine. And I'm fine with
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: things being updated. I think Magician's Nephew works well into
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: being fantastical. Like I don't care about necessarily changing the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: setting that much if you can make it work. You know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I know that people need updated stories and interesting takes
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: can be interesting. And it's interesting. She said she cast
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Meryl Streep, not because she's making Aslan a girl, but
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: because she wanted a voice that could show both authority
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and childlike wonder. And she thinks that Meryl Streep is
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: fantastic at that, which I have to agree. So I'm
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: interested in Aslan is still going to be a male character.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm very interested to see how it'll turn out.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just confused. Like I'm not upset at all. Like
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me necessarily other than just like, it
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: seems like such a crazy swing to make a rock opera.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And it's, and it's a book that, I think most
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: people are not familiar with at all.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Like they, they've heard the lion, the witch and the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: wardrobe because that's got that kind of got, you know,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: cultural anchor points, but magician's nephew is not one that
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of people also like no one outside of,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: you know, the real fans even understands the chronology of
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the stories because they were published in a different order
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: than chronologically within the narrative. Right.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: So, which I think there was reason for, but you
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: have to be careful if you're starting in a chronological order,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: which in magician's nephew would be first. Cause it's the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: creation of.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: It's not like, it's not in this there. It's kind
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: of like when you talk about the star Wars movies,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: do you watch them in the order that they were
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: released or do you watch them narratively one through eight?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Cause they never made a nine.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Uh, anyway, uh, I mean, I never saw nine. So
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: as far as I know, uh, uh, that's me being,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: being trollish myself.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I would look at, obviously you haven't
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: read much into this. You were on a cruise ship.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I would look into it. Cause I do, I do.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I am interested in your thoughts after you like, look
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: at the promo images and stuff like that on the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: rock opera side. Like it, it is interesting because like
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Aslan will sing Narnia into existence, which I think is
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: a really cool concept. And the, the concept art for
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that is very beautiful.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: So, and that also feels very kind of similar to
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Tolkien with, the origin story of middle earth and all
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: that stuff. I, yeah, I, I'm not, I'm not going
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: to prejudge or anything. It's more like I'm just boggled
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: at the scale of the audacity. Like if, if it
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: gets pulled, if it gets pulled off, it'll be amazing.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: But like, like if you had told me, Oh, they're
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: casting Meryl Streep to be the voice of Aslan. And
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: that was it. I'd be like, wow, that's a pretty
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: bold move. That's going to upset a lot of people
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: who are going to have, unjustifiably misogynistic opinions but then
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: you're like and also it's a rock opera. I'm like, okay, wait,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I was on your side. And now I'm, now I'm like, listen,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: it still could be amazing, but you're going to have
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: to work so hard to win me over now.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Now I'm like second guessing. Uh, because I, it will
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: have directed Greta Gerwig use the term. This is according
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: to a sci-fi article to determine the scale tone and
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: musical inspiration behind the upcoming film. Although I don't think
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: they might, they may not be breaking into song, but
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it's inspired from sixties and seventies British rock music. So
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: rock opera might be a little strong, but still it
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: is a lot of bold concepts that like, I feel
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: like Greta Gerwig's like, well, I've made a bunch of
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: successful movies. Let me give myself a real challenge and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: see if I can pull it off.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Didn't she do Wonder Woman 1984? Because did she? Yeah,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I think so. Wasn't that Greta Gerwig?
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I know she did Barbie.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong about that. If I am, I
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: could be mixing her up with somebody else. And I'm
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: probably Patty Jenkins. Patty Jenkins. Yeah, that's my bad. OK, well, audience,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: once again, Once again, you see how my brain works.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: It was Keith Urban.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Except it's worse because there's not even any relation between
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the names. It's just to Jonathan, all women are the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: same person.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Greta Gerwig did Lady Bird and Barbie and Little Women.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. I just had her mixed up with Patty Jenkins.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Makes sense. Yeah, that's on me entirely. Well, you know what?
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I am willing, like I said, Even if it were
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the rock opera, I'd be willing to give it a shot.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: It's just like that was such a kind of wild
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: thing to hear. Yeah. But but even if it's that
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: it's inspired by 60s and 70s English rock, I mean,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: that makes me think of Pink Floyd and The Wall
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: or The Who and Tommy, like those both of which
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: have been done as rock operas.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Well, now it's time for us to move on to
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: the section that this week we're calling some things that
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: might be geeky, but might not be geeky. So we
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: decided to put them in this section.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we can go through them kind of quickly.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: First up, we got a trailer for a series called Nocturne,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: and I want to hear your thoughts on it because
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I've got it reminded me of something very specific. And
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I want to know if you felt the same way,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: but I don't want to color your perception before you
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: talk about it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Um, so Nocturne is a series about these people who
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: are trying to solve, uh, murders and then the serial
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: killer who they thought was dead is not, um, like very, very, very,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: very high level. Right. Um, it just feels very rote.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: It feels like the, the Disney show that I haven't watched.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: So I can't remember the title of that came out
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: recently where they're working with, I think a serial killer
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: to solve some stuff, which I guess is also maybe Dexter.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: No, what it made me think of was Silence of
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: the Lambs. OK, it gave me very because it's all
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the serial killer is being portrayed as like this brilliant,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: incredibly manipulative, charismatic villain, like someone who can get into
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: your head, which is very Hannibal Lecter ask. Right.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: The the feeling I got wasn't that they thought the
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: serial killer was dead. I thought that he was in custody.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: And then you have these other murders and disappearances and
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: they're going to him to find out like if he
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: knows anything about them. But maybe I misinterpreted. I probably
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: just I haven't I haven't rewatched the trailer since I
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: put it up there.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I very likely misinterpreted. So, yeah, I thought you're right
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: that he's in. OK, I must have misread something like that,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that he was gone or something like that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why it makes me think of Silence of
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the Lambs, right? Because in the movie Silence of the Lambs,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Hannibal Lecter is in custody. It's Buffalo Bill who's the killer.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: But they go to talk to Hannibal Lecter because he's
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: an expert on psychotic minds, being one himself. And I
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: felt like that's kind of what seems to be going
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: on here. This is apparently based off a series of
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: books that are by a couple, the Andorral couple. Their
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: first names are, get this, Alexander... and Alexandra.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: That's fun.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: So it's, so it's Alex and Alex. Um, it, it
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: has 10 episodes. It's coming out on Apple TV plus
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: on October 30th, Apple TV plus typically does some pretty
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: good stuff. This did not convince me that it's one
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: of those, but it's because it felt so familiar to me.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's got a good cast. It looks like it's
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: well done, but yeah, it feels familiar. And you know what?
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I probably, if I, I really loved Silence of the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Lambs the first couple of times I watched it. That
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: was before my cannibalism ick really kicked in. I haven't
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: revisited it any time recently. I didn't do any of
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: the newer TV shows based off of it. That might
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: be part of the reason I just didn't think of it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Zazie Beetz and Liv Schreiber are both in this. I'm
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: sure that the work is good and everything. It just
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: felt to me like if I had never seen silence
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: of the lambs, maybe this would be more compelling. Also,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I think I'm getting tired of the serial killer is secretly, uh,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: an amazing genius and really like incredibly manipulative trope because
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: in most cases in real life, that's not what happens.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about the serial killer lives long
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: enough to get old and lose his eyesight, his 2020
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: eyesight and.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Go into a midlife crisis. Um, Well, I didn't watch
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Dexter resurrection season one, but I have a feeling you're
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: talking about the trailer for Dexter resurrection season two.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, that is exactly what I'm talking about.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, I kind of think it's funny for him
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: to be a little like prickly about people, uh, reacting
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to stories about, uh, this new serial killer that's on
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the scene and played by Dan Stevens. He's the five
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: boroughs killer. And, um, And so Dexter is a little
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: sensitive about people kind of going gaga for the five
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: boroughs killer when he's the Bay City butcher. But there's
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: also an older killer played by Brian Cox, who was
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: known as the New York Ripper, who's going to be
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: part of this season. You also see a little glimpse
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: of Kristen Ritter. She was in season one of Dexter Resurrection.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: She is a serial killer who goes by or who
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: is known as Lady Vengeance by the media. Also Uma Thurman.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Uma Thurman, who was also in the first season of
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Dexter Resurrection. Peter Dinklage, notably, not in this one. And
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: if you saw Dexter Resurrection Season 1, you would know why.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Because he dead. Spoiler for Dexter Resurrection Season 1. I
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: did not watch Resurrection Season 1. I saw clips. I
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: was a little curious and I watched some clips, but
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: that was all. In fact, I haven't watched any of
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Dexter since maybe season two of the original show. So
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I don't have any plans on watching this, but it
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: does come out on October 30th on Paramount Plus.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I never like I watched the first couple
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: of episodes of Dexter and I had to drop it
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: because it was so dark. This resurrection actually seems a
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: little more fun, but I just can't. I can't bring
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: myself to watch that. I think I'm just. not in
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: that space. Yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, it's revenge fantasy, right? Like it's always
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: a revenge fantasy because Dexter is all, his thing is
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: that he only will kill other killers. Like that's his thing.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Like he has the desire to kill. He has the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: dark passenger, but, uh, you know, he, he controls it
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: by only targeting people who are like him, but are
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: indiscriminate in who they kill or they, you know, they
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: kill innocent people. And so, uh, there's definitely a revenge
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: kind of vigilante fantasy thing playing out there. Uh, but
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I'm also tired of those.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah. Yeah.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Um, what I'm not tired of is really apparently, uh,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: well-made and contemplative biographical films about people in extraordinary circumstances,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: which is what Elsinore is about.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's about, uh, uh the scottish actor ian charleston
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: in this case played by andrew scott who gets the
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: opportunity to play hamlet which he states as being like
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: a dream role around the same time that he gets
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: diagnosed with aids um and this is a true story
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: and uh ian charleston was also one of like the
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: first people just to be very open about his journey
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: with with the with the disease um it looks so
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: well done and so just heartfelt. Uh, it also has
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Olivia Coleman and Luke Thompson and Billy Piper in it. Uh,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: that's like, I, I, if I want a good cry,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I will definitely watch this. Yeah.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, and like the true story of Ian, Ian Charlson is,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: is an incredible thing, which, you know, it makes sense
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: that this, there'd be a movie made about him. Uh,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: The reason why he was cast in Hamlet is because
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: their original actor walked out of the show. You know
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: who that original actor was? I don't. Daniel Day Lewis.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Daniel Day. was Hamlet and quit the production and Ian
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Charlson came in and took on the role. Also, there's
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: a story that I heard that the Evening Standard Review
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: gave out awards for best actor and the actor they
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: gave the best actor award to that year was was
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Ian McKellen for his performance as Iago in Othello. Ian
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: McKellen goes to give his acceptance speech and he says,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: last night I saw the closing night of Hamlet and
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: you picked the wrong person as best actor because he
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: gave the most transcendent performance of Hamlet I've ever seen
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and he gave his statuette to Ian Charlson.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's so lovely.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: There is a moment in the trailer that I just
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: found very, very telling for a lot of actors journeys
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: healthy or not healthy, which is he's talking to his
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: doctor and she goes, a lot of people come here.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: His doctor who's treating him for the AIDS. A lot
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: of people come here because they want to live. You're
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: here because you want to play Hamlet. Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, my favorite part is where she says like,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: you need to stop thinking about death is like, I'm
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: in Hamlet. It's kind of what it's about.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it is interesting because there are,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of actors and this is actually
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: a mindset that is often more often than not. Like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you're encouraged not to be in this mindset, which is
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: like focus on more than acting, live your life, enjoy life,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: let acting be a part of it, but don't let
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: that be your only focus. Because otherwise you just, you
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: will stop being a good actor because you don't have
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: anything to draw on anymore. Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Well, and, and like, you know, there's, there's toxicity within
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the acting world. That's just deeply ingrained. Like the, the whole,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: the show must go on mentality is like, there are
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: times where I'm like, I respect that in that the
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: show is greater than any one component. But then you
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: also think these are actual human beings who are putting
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: on this show. And at what point do you, have
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: to say, no, your life is more important than a
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: piece of art that we're making. And so it's tough.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: It is tough. And it's tough on the actors, too.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I know so many actors that even if a show
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: is very, I'm one of them. It's something that I
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: struggle with. Even if a show is very understanding about like, oh,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: you're sick, please stay home. We'll figure it out. Right.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: As an actor, you don't want to do that. You
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: don't want.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: To inconvenience everybody you.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Don't want to inconvenience everybody you don't want to inconvenient
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: like hurt the show and also it's something if you're
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: an actor it's because you love doing it right like
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: there's no point if you don't because it's just a
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: life full of rejection so uh and hard work and
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: emotional just like it's it's an emotional life um and
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: so uh Yeah, you love doing it. So you also
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: are like, I don't want to miss this show. Usually
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: if it's a good show there, I can't say that's
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: every time.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: But, you know, there have been a few shows where
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, like if they if they called me to say, hey,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: we're canceling because we didn't sell enough seats. I'd be like, sweet. Yeah,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: that happened to me a few times, but only with
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: certain shows like that. Most shows I would have felt
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: really disappointed. But shows where, let's say, my lower back
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: was taking a really severe beating. I was OK with
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: skipping a night once in a while. Elsnore comes out
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: November 20th Andrew Scott looks like he's putting in a
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: masterful performance Olivia Coleman never disappoints so I definitely want
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: to catch this one.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Me too Andrew Scott always puts his 100% in next
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: we've got a documentary called Musk and it's not about making.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Perfume no it's not it's about Elon Musk is a
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: very critical look at Elon Musk's life and his dealings
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: with like business tech and politics. Elon Musk himself has,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: has called this a hit piece and that it's not
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: at all accurate. Something that a lot of the people
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: who are featured in the documentary say, no, this is 100% accurate.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: He just doesn't like it. The trailer looks, looks like
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: it's going to be like, pretty darn brutal in its honesty.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: And it comes out October 9th. Now, I have to say,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I have a deep bias against Elon Musk. I do
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: not like the man. Not that I've ever met him personally.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I haven't. But I do not like what he stands for.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I do not like the actions he takes. I do
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: not like his messaging. So when you hear me say,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: this looks like a really good documentary, you should also
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: keep in mind It is aligned with my preconceived biases
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: against the man. So just getting that out there.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Likewise. Onto another documentary. This one about another delightful person,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Holmes. We talked about this is where you can
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: see everything. We talked about the teaser for it, and
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: we've gotten a much bigger and more bizarre trailer now.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you are unfamiliar with the name Elizabeth Holmes,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: she's the.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Go listen to our old podcast business on the break.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She's the Silicon Valley founder of Theranos, which was
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: a company that was purported to be bringing a technology
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: to market that would allow you to have like a
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: printer sized device that would be capable of reading a
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: micro dot of blood and running a litany of medical
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: tests on it to give you, you know, actionable information
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: about your health, everything from things that you are currently
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: experiencing to what you might be predisposed toward, like say
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: diabetes or something. The problem was it didn't work, at
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: least not to the extent that they were, you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: marketing it as, and ultimately Elizabeth Holmes and her business
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: partner were brought up on charges of fraud. And so
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: this documentary was, she invited a documentary crew to essentially
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: live with her and her partner to observe them and
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: interact with them for 34 days before she was to
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: go to prison. And they stuck with it, not just
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: through those 34 days, but they kept on, you know,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: creating material for the following like two years, two plus years.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: So this documentary is, you know, the culmination of like
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: three years of work and just the bits in the trailer.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: You're like, it feels like Elizabeth Holmes might be a
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: robot or an alien. Like she does not come across
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: as human.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, uh, at times, gosh, all
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: of a sudden my brain is going numb at times. Uh,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Nathan Fielder also feels like that. Like when Elizabeth Holmes
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: is having, uh, an emotional moment in bed with her
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: husband and he's just sitting there with them. Um, or
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: there's a, apparently there's nudity in this film.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: That's what I've heard. I've also, I've also heard like,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: like early reviews. Cause this has already been on the
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: festival circuit. Early reviews are all by the way, early reviews,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: both for Musk and for you can see everything are
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: overwhelmingly positive. Like just that these are really well done
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: documentaries about people who are in the limelight and you
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: might have, sort of an image of what they must
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: be like, but the documentary show that there's, it gets
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: way more strange than you could possibly imagine. Because all
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: the reviews said like, yeah, this is, it's hard to
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: classify some of the stuff that's happening in this. Musk,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: by the way, comes out October 9th. You can see
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: everything comes out October 16th. So October's getting stacked with,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: with interesting stuff. I, I think I.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Want to see You Can See Everything. I know it's
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: going to be an uncomfortable watch because that's what Nathan
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Fielder does. And I've heard a lot of warning on
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: my FYP being like, maybe familiarize yourself with him before
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: you jump straight into this one because he thrives in
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the uncomfortable. But it is very interesting. And I did
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: read a spoiler about what happens in this documentary and
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: it blows my mind. I have to I have to
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: see it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll probably watch both of these. But yeah, I'm
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: going to have to steal myself for each of them
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: because I have a feeling that they're going to take
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: an emotional toll in both cases. That emotion might mostly
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: be anger. So it'd be good to kind of prepare
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: myself before that. But then the next documentary we have,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I think will be not making me angry. I might
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: feel melancholic.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about Gene Wilder and his life and kind
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: of the heart that he put into his comedy.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: And the pain that that sort of fed into that comedy. Yeah.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: The documentary includes interviews that have never been seen before
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: that were conducted by his nephew, Gene Wilder's nephew. So
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: this obviously back back when Gene Wilder was still alive.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: his nephew did this whole interview with his uncle and it,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: never got released anywhere but it's part of this documentary
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: which comes out december 29th on pbs uh i love
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of well i can't say i love a
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: lot of gene wilder's work because i i but the
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: stuff that i love of his i think reaches a
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: level beyond what most people would be capable of, right?
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Like young Frankenstein, the producers, Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory. Uh,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: when I say the producers, I mean the original film,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: not the musical. These are all like masterpieces in acting
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: from Wilder. Like he, he comes across as there's something
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: raw inside him that you don't get with a lot
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: of other actors. Uh, That doesn't mean that I think
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: everything he did was great. I've seen some of his
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: movies where I was like, oh, that's kind of crappy.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: But but those pieces in particular, I hold up as
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: some of my favorite movies.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that Gene Wilder got a little bit
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: of backlash because like there were certain things he did in.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: And Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory that he and
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: the director decided on and like keeping the kids in
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the dark about how scary or mean he was going
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: to get at certain points so they could get genuine reactions.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: And there have been people who have said that that's
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: kind of abusive and poor action towards children. But it
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: also seems like overall, he was a very kind and
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: generous person to people on set and actually looked after
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: several of the kids on that. I just I thought
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: it was worth mentioning because that has always kind of
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: stuck in the back of my head when people talk
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: about Gene Wilder.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I will say that in the early 1970s, treating kids
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: like that was still pretty sweet and warm and loving
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: compared to normal practice. As a child of the 70s myself, no,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: my parents were great. I'm just, again, trolling here. I
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: wouldn't allow that in the 70s. I will say, I know. Listen,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I'm aware. I remember that in the the extra, the
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: bonus content on the Willy Wonka Blu-ray. There were bits
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: where Gene Wilder would talk about like his experience with
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: the kids. And there was one where he's talking about
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: the actor who plays Mike TV. And he specifically says
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: something like, you know, I love you now, but you
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: were a bit of a stinker. That's like pretty, pretty
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: funny stuff. And then finally for this section.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: We have another one, but I'll talk about it.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see that. No, it's fine.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: The penultimate one for this, because I don't ever have
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: the lineup. I have my notes. The penultimate one for
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: this section, we have a trailer for Awkwafina, The Unlikely Cook,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: which is actually a reality kind of series that's coming
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: to Apple TV Plus on November 6th, following actress and
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: comedian Awkwafina. And it's really about her trying to reopen
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: a restaurant that that her great-grandfather had founded in Flushing,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: New York, called Lum's. That's her actual real last name
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: is Lum. And so it's about her quest to reopening
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: that and to reconnect with her family and her family's
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: history while also dealing with the fact that she doesn't
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: know how to cook anything.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: It looks so delightful and heartwarming. I like Awkwafina to
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: begin with. I very much am going to be watching
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: this series.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, it does look very sweet, right? There's
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: a bit where you can see she's been crying, that
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: she's had some sort of genuine emotional moment. And I
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: think while there is going to be a lot of
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: funny stuff about her inept ways in the kitchen, I
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: think the heartfelt stuff about wanting to reconnect with your
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: family's history is going to speak to a lot of people.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and speak to me too. Like
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: there's not, I don't know a whole lot about, uh,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: past my grandparents. Right. So I know a little bit,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: but not a whole lot. Um, yeah, I'm, I'm looking
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: forward to it. Um, did you say when it comes
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: out already?
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes out November 6th on Apple TV plus.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Um, because I missed it. So just,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: just in case anybody else missed it too. Uh, the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: last thing is I shared this with, jonathan but it
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: was very last minute uh we're also getting one more
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: documentary and this one is on maria bamford it's called
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: paralyzed by hope the maria bamford story it talks about
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: her journey through mental health and being a comedian and
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: it looks absolutely delightful um i think i i love
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: maria bamford she's an amazing talented comedian and voice artist
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: she's quirky and weird she's very open about her mental
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: health journey um And it seemed like everybody else loves
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: her too. She's a guest on Dropout a couple of
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: times this year on a couple of the Dropout shows.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: And everybody just seems to absolutely adore her.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: She's definitely one of those comedians that other comedians like
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: to watch. Right? If you ever get involved in the
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: world of stand-up comedy, and by me, I'm like a
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: degree of separation away because I don't do stand-up, but
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I know people who do. but you'll find out that
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: like among the standups, there will be certain standup comedians
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: that like, that's the person they want to watch because
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: they're doing something that no one else does. And Maria
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Bamford frequently is on that list. She was also part
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: of the comedians of comedy to where, you know, decades
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: ago with Patton Oswalt and Brian Posehn. And that was
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun too, just she's got such a
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: whimsical and yet dark sense of humor and, But dark
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: in a way where like at the end of it,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: you kind of feel OK.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it comes from a lot of her real
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: life experiences. She she deals with in her family, depression
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: and bipolar. She talks about that in the documentary as well.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Tony and I actually saw her last year with her opener,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Jackie Cation, who we hadn't. Ever heard before, who I
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: also absolutely adored. And yeah, it is it is pretty dark.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: she deals with some dark stuff, but it's also so
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: bizarre and funny. And I love it.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She's very good at doing different voices too. Where she'll,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: she'll like, she has her own voice is a little,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: a little unusual, but then she'll go into like one
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: of her character voices of like, like, you know, your, your,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: your standard store manager character. And it's just amazing. You
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: hear her and you're like, Oh God, that's funny that
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: that's the affectation and not the other voice. That's your
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: normal voice.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Um, okay, well, cool. What do you, do you happen
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: to know when that comes out? Uh, this is where
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: you find out that I'm the one who takes all
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: those notes.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It says the initial release was in January, but
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: I just got the trailer for it.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: It's probably for the festival circuit though.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Uh, uh, Yeah. Well, here's the thing is I watched
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: it and I'm like, oh, this is so good. But
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I was watching it on my couch, October 23rd this year.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: But I was watching it on my couch. So I
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: definitely at that time watching YouTube with my husband did
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: not write down the release date like I should. I
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: keep trying to make a list of all the shows
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: we want to watch and all the movies we want
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: to watch and when they come out and I keep failing.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: But I only remember connecting to throw it on it.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, yeah. Well, it is now that wonderful time
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: of the episode where we turn away from all things
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: bright and airy and light and sweet. We take a
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: hard left down this darkened corridor with the creaky floors
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: and the sounds of someone somewhere breathing heavily just out
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: of sight we come up to this lovely hutch ariel
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: i'm gonna have you open up the hutch for me
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: just uh reach out there okay oh golly uh there's
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: a note let's see it says um sorry we missed
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: you we're still on the cruise signed countless spiders okay
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: well spider free cool this week.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Cool it's like uh it's not like the webs but
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: okay Yeah.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Well, let's let's talk about this. So first of all, Ariel,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: did you watch any of the trailers that are in there?
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: I know you'd watch one of them because you sent
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: it to me.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, yeah. So I did watch one of them that. Yes. No,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch the other.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: The other two you did not. OK, so first up,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: we've got the cycle. This you might have actually seen
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: the trailer or the teaser for this earlier. It's got
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Deborah Ann Wohl in it. You know, she played in
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Daredevil and everything. She's great DM as well. But she
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: plays a forensic anthropologist. And when she was a kid,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: her father walked out on her family and disappeared. And
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: 36 years later, she's contacted by law enforcement saying that
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: they found her father's preserved corpse next to two mutilated bodies.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: And so there's this whole mystery of where did he go?
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: What happened to him? Was he involved in the killing
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: of these other two people? What's going on? And it
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: sounds like the first half of the movie is kind
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: of like a procedural crime thriller. But then there's like
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: a hard turn where it might go into more supernatural horror.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure because apparently it's a reveal. So
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the actual twist is, if there
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: is one. this comes to Shudder on October 23rd and
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: I like Debra Ann Wall and so I would check
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: this out if I still had Shudder I let my
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Shudder subscription lapse so I may not see this but
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: if I still had it I would probably check this
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: out because it looks interesting to me especially if the
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if the supernatural stuff is
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: actually there or not, or if that's like, you know,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: kind of an abstract representation of the fear that she's experiencing.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: I just don't know. Next up, we have a trailer
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: for Halo Warrior. All one word. So Halo Warrior. It
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: looks like a low budget post-apocalyptic horror movie. It centers
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: around a young woman, 16 year old girl, quote unquote,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: the last girl on Earth. This is in like after
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: some massive illness has wiped out most people on the planet.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: And she still ends up, you know, decorating for Halloween,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: like kind of as to retain a touch of what
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: the world was like before the disaster. But then a
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: bunch of people happen across her and things get dark
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: and violent. The protagonist's name is Pumpkin. Pumpkin, the Hello Warrior.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: She's played by Millie Shapiro, who played the young daughter
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: in Hereditary. This also comes to Shudder on October 16th.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: I would probably skip this, honestly. Maybe if I heard
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: good things afterward, I'd be like, OK, I should check
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: it out. But like nothing in the trailer really hooked me.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: And the third one is one that Ariel watched and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: actually sent to me, which is Gremlins 3. No, wait,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. It's Gnomes.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: There was such a teeny tiny trailer for Gremlin C3
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: that looked delightful, but wasn't.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Enough to talk about. Yeah, just Gizmo in a backpack.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's delightful. I could just watch that all day.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Just have it on loop in my brain. Maybe I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: already do. Yeah, this one stars... Is it Ada Butterfield?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe. I didn't write down any of the actors in this.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: It's Canadian, I think.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Australian.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: It's Australian. Sorry. I'm trying to remember. I watched it
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: and it's been a week.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: The Canada of the South Pacific.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Are you sure it's not Canadian?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I know it's not Canadian. It's either English or it's Australian,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: but it's coming to an Australian streaming service called Stan
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: on October 8th. There is no U.S. release date.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not Canadian. It's a comedy horror. It's
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: a TV series, which is weird, starring Asia Butterfield. I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: was right. And Megan smart, um, where he's kind of
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: like a police officer and they fight gnomes like actual
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: garden gnomes. Yeah.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: They're very much like gremlins and gremlins. So I saw one, uh,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: like high level, kind of like elevator pitch description where
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: it was saying it's gremlins meets hot fuzz. Cause you've
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: got like the crime comedy stuff of hot fuzz and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: the horror comedy stuff of gremlins, except they're lawn gnomes
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: instead of gremlins. Uh, I didn't, I didn't think it
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: was a bad trailer. I would probably check this out
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: if I had Stan or if it does eventually come
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: to the U S maybe I'll watch it then. But
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: one thing I didn't like is that they were clearly
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: using CGI for their, for their blood effects. And I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: just hate that. Like, I get it. Like you don't
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: always have access to like practical effects. They're hard to do.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, they have to pay all the ceramic gnomes. Yeah.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking like, if you're doing, if you're
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: doing practical blood effects, that's a lot of cleaning between takes,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: you know, like if you, if you do it and
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: you're like, Oh, we got to do another take. Whereas
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: with CGI blood, you're like, you just added in post,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: you know, there's nothing to clean up.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I get it, but it doesn't look nearly as good.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: No, you're right. You're right. I mean, the, the special
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: effects are not amazing. Um, the plot is actually that
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: like this town has a gnome festival, but the ancient
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: gnome queen awakens and unleashes her bloodthirsty army.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: So. Yeah. Like I said, if you're in Australia, you
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: can watch it on Stan starting October 8th. The rest
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: of us are just going to have to wait. I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: also put in a couple of trailers that I watched,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: but I'm not really going to spend much time on.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: One was for VHS mixtape. Another horror anthology in the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: VHS series comes out October 9th on shutter. And the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: other one, we got a full trailer for the pendulum.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: We talked about the teaser for that a couple of, well,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: before my vacation that comes out January 1st, the pendulum
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: looks great. uh, scary. So I'm interested in that, but
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: that's all I have to say about that. Let us
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: turn the corner yet again to the bright sunny site
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: of our regular show note stuff, stuff that's actually geeky
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: through and through.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: And the first thing we're going to talk about is
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: an animated film coming out called Ray gun. This is yeah. Yeah.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell if you were going to say anything
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: or not. Oh, no.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: I was just going to say, I think we talked
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: about the teaser for this months ago, but now we
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: got a full trailer.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this full trailer makes me more interested. It is
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: sci-fi noir, but more noir, like detective noir, right? So
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: it feels a little more sci-fi and a little more
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: noir than Blade Runner in the classic sense to me.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: But Jonathan's going to disagree.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: I completely disagree. I do think it feels like Blade Runner.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like if Blade Runner didn't exist,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: neither would this movie. There's a there's a lot in
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: this trailer where you're like, this is like a clear
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: like you can draw a line from Blade Runner to this.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: But I also felt that there were a lot of
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: touches of the fifth element in this trailer, as well
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: as touches of the Rocketeer. So those were the three
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: movies this trailer made me think of the most. It's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: directed by and was co-written by Brad Bird, who was
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: behind The Incredibles and The Iron Giant. Lots of great stuff.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: So that's cool. And it's got a great voice cast, too.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Sam Rockwell voices the main character. His sidekick is voiced
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: by Tom Waits, which is weird because I didn't recognize
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: it at first. I think they might actually pitch his
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: voice up a little because Tom Waits' voice is so
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: low and gravelly. Um, Scarlett Johansson plays a character called
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Venus Nova, who's sort of a pop star who's caught
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: in the scandal. Matt Berry is a crime boss, but
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: we don't get to hear him in this trailer at all.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Cause I know I would recognize Matt Berry's voice, uh,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Patton Oswalt, Alan Tudyk, John Ratzenberger, others all do at
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: least some sort of voice work in this movie. And
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: it comes out December 4th in theaters and December 18th
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: on Netflix.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: My headcanon is that the sidekick, who is a one-eyed
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: green alien, the assistant detective or whatever in Ray Gunn,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: is Pleakley's cousin from Stitch.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: From Lilo and Stitch, yeah.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: It feels like it's a cartoon that is focused more
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: towards adults, though, than kids for some reason.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah. This does not feel like it's a kid's
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: movie at all. It doesn't feel adult in the sense
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: of it being like salacious or maybe, or, or like
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: overly violent, but it's definitely, it feels like this is
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: a movie with a storyline and themes that are really
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: meant for an adult audience, not for kids.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm interested.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: So I would, I plan on seeing this in the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: theater if I can, like it looks, it looks like
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: it would be a fun experience. Like it, as much
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: as I do rag on it for having clear influences
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: like Blade Runner and such, uh, the story itself is
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: clearly an original one. And I kind of want to
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: show support for that sort of stuff. And it just
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: looks like it's really well made.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I like, and I like classic, uh, a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: private Dick kind of.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Stories, which just feels like Sam Spade kind of thing.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Uh, next, next up, we've got a trailer. I think
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: I got the total wrong read on the series. Uh,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: it's called phony, uh, I watched the trailer and I
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: came away with a certain feeling and then I read
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: more about the series and I feel like what I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: read and what I saw are two different things. So
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you, Ariel, what did you think
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: about this trailer and what is phony about?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: I haven't, I haven't read anything about it. I only saw,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: I saw the trailer the other day. Um, and I,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I skipped it cause it was before a video I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: was trying to watch. So I skipped it. So I
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: watched the full thing, uh, today. Um, It is about
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: a kid who gets into an accident and is in
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: the hospital. And when he wakes up, he thinks his
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: mother is a different person. He thinks his mother has
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: been replaced. And it feels like it plays again with...
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: We've had a few of these movies, like the one
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: with the nickels or the pennies or something like that,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: where a family's son dies. And then they think that
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: these pennies are signs of him being reincarnated. Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: No, that's nickel. Yeah, you're right. Nickel, yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: And so this feels like that where... where they're playing with,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: has this mother been replaced? Has something happened while this
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: kid was unconscious? And I think it just might be
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: living with brain trauma. Yeah.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Like the big giveaway in the trailer is they set
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: it up where he and his mom have this silent
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: language of shoulder squeeze that mean I love you when
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: done in a certain pattern. And later in the trailer,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: there's a moment where he gives her those shoulder squeezes
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: and she does not return them. And you get the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: feeling like that's where he really starts to suspect that
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: perhaps this is not his mom. I put this in
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: here because while that premise is may ultimately prove to
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: be that it's just all in his head and this
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: is because of brain trauma it does kind of like
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: overlap into the geek sphere sort of thing Connie Britton
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: plays the mom but here's the thing that I read
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: about that threw me for a loop because what do
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: you think of the tone of the trailer what would
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: you say how would you categorize this if you had
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: to give it like and it could be multiple genres
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: but what genres would you put this into coming of
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: age and drama Yeah. According to what I was reading,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: it's a comedy mystery.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: And psychological thriller.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but according to what I read, it's a comedy mystery.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: That's what throws me off. I was like, oh, this
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: trailer didn't really come up. I mean, there's some funny
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: little bits in the trailer, and it ends with a
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: bit of a gag. But from the trailer, I didn't
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: peg this as a comedy.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Um... No, I didn't peg it as a comedy either, though.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Psychological thriller and mystery, yes. Because part of it, if
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: my read was correct, is his friends also think that
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: this might be just brain trauma from the injury or
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: trauma from the car accident. But is it? Like, is
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: it actually that or is it actually happening? And I
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: do think the trailer was very good. And this is
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: where it does feel like it's in the geek sphere
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: to me. The trailer was very good at making it
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: like no, it's not just brain trauma and he's delusional.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: We don't know. Like, is it, you know?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: So they're definitely playing with the mystery of it all.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: I agree with the mystery. It's the comedy part that
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: really threw me. Like I, there is a little bit
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: of comedy in the trailer, but there's not much. And
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: it felt way more like a drama or a psychological
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: thriller to me. Maybe it could just be that the
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: trailer is not a good representation of the series, or
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: maybe it's that the writeup, was just totally, you know,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: misrepresenting what the show is. It comes to Hulu on
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: October 20th. So we won't have to wait long to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: find out. Yeah.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Are you going to give it a shot or.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. There's so much other stuff that's coming
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: out and plus stuff that I'm way behind on that.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going to make time for this.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look bad by any means. And maybe if
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: I hear that it's like really good television, maybe I'll
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: check it out, but I don't think I'll be there
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: day one. What about you?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. probably the same well right now i don't have
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: disney plus yet i'll be getting it for vision quest.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: So um like yeah you'll have it by then.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah uh so it's it's i have it's not that
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: i don't want disney plus hulu because there's a bunch
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: of ffx there's a bunch of stuff i want to
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: watch it's that um i've been waiting for a time
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: we've been waiting for a time where tony and i
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: both have the the brain space to bring in.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Watch a bunch of new shows um totally.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: We've been kind of tired and and dealing with like
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: crazy work and other stuff and commitments and so like
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: at the end of the night it's taskmaster is easy
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: because it's just funny and you know uh watching like
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: smosh or dropout is easy because it's just funny it
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't require a lot of like brain power or undivided
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: attention so yeah it gets.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: It i hear that i hear that uh I mean,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: I'm the same way where I'll just like put stuff
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: that I've seen either a billion times before, or it's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: stuff that is pretty low level, uh, uh, you know,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: requirement on my part to pay attention. Uh, because yeah,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: eventually you just kind of, you run out of attention
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: to give.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Which is actually why I'm like, when we watch a
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: dropout show and it's a new show or we watched
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Ted Lasso or taskmaster, we do pay attention. Um, but
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: then there's some days where we're just like, let's just
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: put on something smosh and like, half watch um.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Wait wait until Angela says something really ridiculous and then
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: laugh and.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Then yeah yeah um but but yeah like but that's
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: why I kind of like the whole like an episode
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: comes out a week I know I have friends who
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: would rather binge it but for me I'm like that
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: means once a week I can be like I'm preparing
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: myself today is the day that I'm going to watch
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: this show and maybe this other show that came out
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: close to it and like that's going to be like
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: my I'm looking forward to this. I'm prepared to sit
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: and pay attention. Yeah.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: I understand that. Uh, well then my question for you is,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: do you think you will be paying attention to the
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: upcoming Johnny Depp supernatural revenge thriller day drinker?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: That was a heck of a windup for a no.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: It's it's, Maybe he's an Irish vampire.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I wrote I wrote I wrote Johnny
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Depp playing an alcoholic, which is a big stretch for him.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: And he's chatting with a bartender. And I think he's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: supposed to be Irish.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's supposed to be Irish. It's not the worst
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Irish accent, but it's definitely not the best.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: At least he doesn't go hoity-toity-toity-toity-toity.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: That's true. I haven't heard anybody other than you do
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: that in a very long time. Just now from you.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: It's not the worst Irish accent, but it's also not
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: the best, especially when you pair it with the.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe he always had this, and I didn't notice until
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Pirates of the Caribbean, but ever since Pirates of the Caribbean...
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: exception of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory every character he
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: plays mumbles like Jack Sparrow yeah and when you add
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: that mumble to the Irish accent and the drunk it
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: is near impossible to understand what he's saying in the.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Trailer you're getting close to Brad Pitt level of inscrutability
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: from Snatch where Brad Pitt played an Irish traveler oh
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Brad Pitt and snatch is great, but he is like,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: you do need to have close captions on. And even
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: then you're going to be like, I'm, I read that
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: and I'm still not sure what that means.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: So the trailer kind of has him talking to a bartender.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: He's on a yacht. There's no real explanation of who
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: he is. He says that his life story is, is
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: possibly a revenge story or maybe a ghost story. And he,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: the trailer gives implications of there could be supernatural elements
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: to this, or again, it could be an abstract depiction of,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: you know, his emotions or thoughts or something. It's hard
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: to say, like the trailer doesn't give a, give a
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: lot away. So I think what the trailer is selling
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: you on are the visuals, which do look impressive. And
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: the fact that Johnny Depp is giving another one of
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: his mumbly mush mouth performances.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It, it, was more interesting than i thought
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: it would be when i turned on the trailer but
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: it is not interesting enough for me to go i
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: want to.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Watch that yeah i i think i put this in
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: the same category as digger where i'm like i see
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: what's going on here and i can at least respect
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: the the craftsmanship that goes into making what this is
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: but i don't have a need to watch it you
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: know This is supposed to come out on March 26th.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: I know for a fact I will not be seeing
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: this on that day because that's the birthday of someone
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: close to me. So I know that I'll be doing
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: something different.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Reasonable. Reasonable. Okay.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: This next one. Hoo boy.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: It's Treasure Island. It's a series. It's a Paramount Plus
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: series called Treasure Island.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Completely original story. when I say, when I say it's
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: based off, off the novel by Robert Louis Stevenson, that
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: based is doing a whole lot of lifting because it's
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: taking some of the characters and some of the concepts
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: from the novel, but it's very clearly introducing new characters
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: and new plots. One of those new characters is, is
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Bess Hawkins, the mother of Jim Hawkins, uh, in, in
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: treasure Island, Jim Hawkins, I think he's an orphan who's
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: working at the Admiral Benbow in, and he ends up
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: getting wrapped up in the whole treasure Island adventure. And
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: this one, he has a mom played by Haley Atwell, whom,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: you know, uh, by the way, I haven't said this
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: in a while. Um, my fake girlfriend, Haley Atwell, um, she, uh,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: she's she plays his mother and like the two of
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: them get caught up in this whole treasure hunt thing
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: and they're sort of stuck between a pirate long john
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: silver and what is described in everything i saw as
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: a british agent i don't know what agency yeah but
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: yeah um it's six episodes comes out october 11th on
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: mgm plus Yeah, I don't know about this, Ariel. What
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: do you think?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: I think as a weird pirate story, it might be OK.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: It's it's hard for me to be completely. Like I
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: can't all of a sudden my brain is not thinking
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: of the word. objective objective about it because uh haley
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: atwell's in it and she's phenomenal and also tomer capone
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: is in it he plays billy bones and i adore
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: his work he was also frenchie in the boys so
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: oh i.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Wonder if they have blind pew i didn't look i
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: i didn't.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Look at that i was just like oh that's tomer
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: capone who is he playing so i looked it up
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: he's playing billy bones he, he and mother's milk were
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: the entire reason for me to watch any of the boys. So,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: because I liked those characters and their stories were interesting
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: to me without being just like they had levels. So.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I really, so treasure islands, my
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: dad's like favorite book and I, it's not my favorite book,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: but I do like treasure Island quite a bit. And yeah,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like they've done enough changes to the book
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: here where it almost feels like it could have been
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: a different title. Like you could have called it something else.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, you wouldn't have the cultural weight of Long
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: John Silver if you did that. I get that. Like
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: you are leaning heavily on well-known characters and plot lines.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: But when you've changed so much, it feels weird to
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: still call it that.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: I felt the same way about Wuthering Heights. Like I
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: was just like, you've changed so much. Why do you
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: even call it this?
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. You know, it might be a fun pirate
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: adventure movie, but I also don't know how much I
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: can judge because I really like Muppet Charger Island and
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: I really like Treasure Planet. So.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So since Disney didn't do it, you say go
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: pound sand.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: No, I just say maybe I'm like, this is not
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: one of the ones where I'm beholden to the book
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: so much. I've never actually read the book.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: So it's it's good. It's it's it's a fairly quick read.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: But I mean, it's also obviously it's like dated. But yeah,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: I would. I don't know. I'll probably skip this, even
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: though I love Haley Atwell and I love Treasure Island.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: That actually might be the reason why I skip it,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: because I worry that I wouldn't like it otherwise. So
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: let us move on. To a sci-fi psychological thriller called Dreamquill.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this stars Elizabeth Banks and.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: John C. Reilly.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: John C. Reilly. I was like, I know it's C.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Reilly.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: What is the first part? About a woman who undergoes, like.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: I have... I'm picturing in my head and all of
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: a sudden all of my words to describe this has
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: have failed because it reminded me of the magnetic therapy
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: that you go for, for like depression where they put
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: you in an MRI and they target parts of your brain.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It made me think also a little bit of
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: clockwork orange where they're conditioning Alex by forcing him to
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: watch violent stuff and making him feel sick. But yeah, it's,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: it's the idea is that she's having some sort of
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: personality slash mental health realignment, you know, thing happen. And
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: this is in a world where pollution is so bad
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: that you're not even supposed to go out without wearing
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: some some kind of mask. And the mask she wears
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: looks it's like flesh colored, but it doesn't have a
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: mouth on it. So it makes her look like she
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: has no mouth when she goes outside.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Hannibal Lecter.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: You a little Hannibal Lecter. Yeah, it does. And yeah,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: so it's this this thing where she's going in and
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: getting realigned so that she will be happier because she
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: she doesn't feel happy or fulfilled. But when she comes back,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: she finds out something has changed in her household.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another her.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a robot her.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is really weird and interesting. Yeah, I kind
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: of like this take on, you know, the more Clockwork
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Orange take. I have never watched Clockwork Orange, but I've
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: been told I should not.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but where it's not a drug problem. based conditioning
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: because we've had a whole bunch of those stories where
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: you take this drug and it changes you it's like virtual.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: It's yeah yeah it's this is this is one where
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: like you're in like you said like it's like an
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: mri machine where they're using some form of electronics to
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: realign your brain uh i do like that john c
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: reilly in his character in what appears to be a
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: guileless exclamation says it's really neat to have your own
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: stepford wife they're like You know that those were not
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: good things in that movie, right? But he's treating it like, oh, no,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: it's awesome to have a Stepford wife, meaning the robotic
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: companion that looks exactly like Elizabeth Banks. Juliette Lewis is
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: also in this. She plays a supporting character. She's a
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: nurse at the wellness retreat where Elizabeth Banks gets her
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: process done. And it's the same retreat that sent the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: companion robot to the family to be there as a
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: you know, part of their household while Elizabeth Banks is
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: away getting treated. This looks really weird in an intriguing way.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: It comes out October 16th.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I do want to watch this one. And that was,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: it was, it was no dig on getting magnetic treatment there. No,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: no treatment theory, because that's a proven, that's a proven
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: treatment for depression and OCD and migraines.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Stimulation.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: This is more like, this is more like imagine, you know,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like that world where you get all
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: the supplements and stuff that come out. Like after something
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: has been proven scientifically to be of benefit, then you
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: get all the stuff that hasn't been proven yet, but it's,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: it's like a small leap for the patient or for
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: the customer, right? It's a small leap of faith that
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: because it can do X, it probably can also do Y.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: And so why not? We sell these over the counter
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: at a, you know, it feels like that. Like it's,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: it's a very faddish kind of technology that's built on
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: established tech that does one thing specifically and actually does it.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: This one feels like it's a lot more like snake oil.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Like maybe it says something, maybe it doesn't.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I'm interested in it. It looks like it
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: looks suspenseful. It looks bizarre. It looks a little funny.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: When Elizabeth Banks goes to get her treatment, she says,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: so this will treat my wrinkles as well. Right. And
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: I thought that was cute. So.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: I really like this trailer. And I like John C.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: Reilly and I like Elizabeth Banks. I do hope to
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: see this. Maybe we can get a watch party together
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: and go see it in the theater or something. Then
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: we get the full trailer for Vision Quest. We've talked
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: about the teasers before. Interestingly, this full trailer focused on
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: other stuff than the teasers did like there were characters
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: that show up in the teaser who don't show up
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: at all in the trailer this trailer is much more
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: about vision about ultron and about one of vision's sons
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: we saw one of his sons essentially reincarnated uh in
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: agatha all along here we see the other son also
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: reincarnated the quick one not the magic.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: One Yeah, which is interesting because if you watched WandaVision
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: and Agatha all along, they weren't supposed to be real.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: And I guess Multiverse of Madness. But maybe they are.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: And Vision didn't think they were real, but now maybe
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: they are.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very... I mean, Agatha all along kind
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: of tackled this quite a bit. So now we're getting
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: the other side of it. Yeah, this is interesting because, again,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: the trailer had a very different... approach than the teaser did. Um, I,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: I think if I'm being brutally honest out of the
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: three in the trilogy of Wanda vision, Agatha all along
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: and vision quest, this is the one I'm interested in
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: the least, but that's only because the trailer hasn't totally
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: sold me. It's wild because I do think Paul Bettany
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: is amazing. I think, uh, James Spader, is that who
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: plays Ultron? I think he's amazing. Um, I think like
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: there's so many great people in this. And I, I
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: really do think that when Marvel focuses on these stories
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: and series forum, they really can knock it out of
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: the park. So I'm hopeful that this will be another
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: like home run for me.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: So, so for me, uh, I get that all along
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: is the one that I was least looking forward to,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: which is a weird thing to say because they weren't
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: all necessarily announced at once. I don't think, um, So
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this more than I look forward
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: to Agatha all along, which I did enjoy. But I
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: also feel like the trailer, even though it focused on
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: some things different from the teaser, I feel like there's
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: still a lot of mystery to uncover. I don't know
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: how all the pieces come together, which is a problem
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: I've had in the past with some Marvel trailers where
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: they just kind of show you everything. So I appreciate that.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: So I'm very much looking forward to it. I cannot wait.
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  Speaker 1: I also I really want Vision and Wanda to reconcile
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: and I want closure to that love story.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did Wanda so dirty. I'm still sore at
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Marvel for how they, especially by the end of WandaVision
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: and then how they treated Wanda in Multiverse of Madness.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: I was so deeply disappointed. I felt like it was
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: the biggest misstep after a truly incredible series yeah uh
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: that if if they were able to salvage that at
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: all with vision quest that would be that makes it
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: worth watching on its own.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: I mean they've done a they did a great job
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: with the the first two series so i'm gonna give
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: them the benefit of the doubt with this i also
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: want them to like look at this and be like
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: okay this is the kind of stuff we need to
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: make um but we'll see The next thing we got
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: was a full trailer for Ebenezer. More Johnny Depp.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the obviously the the billionth retelling of
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: the Christmas Carol story that at least in early marketing
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: seemed to hint that this was going to be more
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: like an Ebenezer Scrooge backstory thing and less of a
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: telling of Christmas Carol. But this trailer just makes me think, oh, no,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: this is just Christmas Carol. It's just a particularly kind
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: of creepy take on it.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's exactly it is. It is just
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Christmas Carol. It's got the three ghosts. It's got his
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: past love interest. You know, the ghost of Christmas past
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: design is creepier than I'm used to, which I kind
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: of like. And I think the ghost of Christmas present
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: is Mr. Milchak from Severance. But I could have not
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: seen that correctly. It's fine. I think he does a
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: better job in this trailer than he does in Day Drinker.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Like, I think that that his performance
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: like it's clear that he's having fun. Right. Like that
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: looks like it looks like he's having a good time
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: doing it. I just I don't know. my opinion of
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: Johnny Depp as a person isn't super high. So I
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: don't really care if he has a good time.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But I do like tremendous men who, who
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: was Mr. Milchak and is the ghost of Christmas present.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: So, and I think Ian McKellen is Jacob Marley, isn't he?
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: He is, he is. Um, and Daisy Ridley said it
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: and Rupert Grant and some other people as well.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: So some interesting people, I think my biggest complaint with
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: this is really with the marketing, like unless they truly, um,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: expand upon Scrooge's backstory which I don't think really you
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: need to do very much but in other other versions
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: of Christmas Carol have also kind of expanded on his
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: backstory a bit but unless you really push that super
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: far I just don't see why the marketing was like
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: this is the story you never heard or what or
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: anything like that like because it just seems misleading to
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: me yeah.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make much sense Um, we have three more stories.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: We're going to go through them kind of quick. The
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: next one is capturing Bigfoot. It is a documentary about
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: people saying whether or not Bigfoot exists and whether the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: hoax could have been pulled off or not.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, so spoiler for this documentary in particular, but
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: I think that they actually uncover some, uh, footage that
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: show that the people who had been claiming that this
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: footage was real footage of Bigfoot, uh, actually doing a
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: practice run of shooting that footage, like essentially a rehearsal.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: So kind of spoils that done it, but, but it's,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: but it does feel like it's, it's, this is more
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: about the people behind this, this idea, this hoax and
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: the other folks who, who got wrapped up in it
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: and those, the true believers and the skeptics and all
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I think this is interesting here
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: in Georgia.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: About about an hour and a half away from me
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: there is the the bigfoot museum have you ever been
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: to that ariel.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: I haven't you told me that they take it way
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: too seriously.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: It's super duper serious like there is like you could
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: dedicate a full half day and still not read and
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: hear everything that is in that museum um it is
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: they're very, the museum's presentation is very sincere. I do
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: not know if the people who own the museum are
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: sincere in their belief, but they present it in that way.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: It doesn't, it doesn't come across like, like a hoaxster
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: to me either. It feels very genuine. I don't know
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: if it actually is. It may just be that they're really,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: really good at it. But I feel like some of
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: the people in this documentary fall into that. And then
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: some of them are just, you know, people who got
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: into a con and then it got too deep for
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: them to ever say that it was a con, right?
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Like it's a thing that goes so far that you
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: can't back out of it. That's, that's the feeling I get.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: This comes to Amazon prime video on October 20th. I'll
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: probably check this out. I think it will be a
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: bit of a hard watch in parts because of, because
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: of people who have these deep like beliefs in things
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: that ultimately turn out to have been a hoax.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: While I like fantastical creatures and I like classic monsters,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: cryptids have been the side that I've never super got into,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: but I super see the appeal of like having like
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot and Mothman exist. Maybe not some of the meaner cryptids.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: I don't see the appeal of them existing at all,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: but I guess it's the same as like scary Halloween monsters.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: You just reminded me of something that I want to
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: talk to you about, but we have to wait until
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: after we're off mic.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, well then, let's move on. Next, we've got an
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: animated horror pilot called Mandelbrot Hall. It kind of feels
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: like What If Stranger Things, but at college?
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's supposed to fall into the genre of cosmic horror.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: It's interesting because the art style is so cartoony and
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: friendly looking that it's hard for me to imagine it
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: evoking feelings of cosmic horror. You understand what I'm saying?
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is a very. Unthreatening sort
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: of animation style.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I like if if Adventure Time was suddenly
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: trying to tackle Lovecraftian cosmic horror, that would have been
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: kind of similar.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: It feels kind of like recess, but grown up.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So it's set in the dorm. And there's
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: like some mystery involved, like perhaps a missing R.A. Maybe
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: people's memories are being wiped of this person or maybe
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: this person didn't exist and only appeared to the protagonist.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: It's hard to say because it's a very short trailer,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: but this has been in development for a few years
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: and it's finally coming out October 16th. So I think
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: this project actually has a pretty decent following on social
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: media because the people who have been making it have
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: been posting about it during the whole developmental process, but
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: it's the first I've ever heard of it. I, it
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: looks fun.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: I'll probably give it a try. Cause I, you know,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: stuff pops up on my YouTube and that is easy
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: to watch. So I'll probably click on it. And then
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: the next thing I didn't watch at all. So you're
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: going to have to talk about because I didn't see
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: it until today. I'm so sorry.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: Okay. So, so the last thing that's on our list
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: is a short film called guardians Grove. So you didn't
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: get a chance to watch this aerial. No, It's a
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: real shame because one of the people in this is
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: Anna Garcia from Dropout.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: She just got announced as a JoCo Cruise guest.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: I specifically put this in here because I was like,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Ariel loves Dropout. She'll be interested to see this project
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: that has a Dropout person in it as one of
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: the two main roles.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I am and I will go back and
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: watch it. I just didn't have time yet. Yeah.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: Well, let me give you the setup. So it's about
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: these two people who are online friends. They play this
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: very cutesy shooter game together. But they only know each
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: other from online. They only really know each other by
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: each other's handles. And then by happenstance, they actually meet
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: in person. And so it's kind of about how the
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: online friendship does not immediately translate into a real world
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: friendship and the reasons behind that. So it's kind of
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: sweet and sad and interesting in that way. I think
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: it's worth watching. The Rachel Moss is the filmmaker who
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: wrote and directed this. And I think it's fairly well made.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that says anything super deep or compelling
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: in the long run. But, um, I kind of liked,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I enjoyed what I saw. Anna Garcia does.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: It's not a, it's not like an outright comedy. So
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: it's not like Anna Garcia is doing her Anna Garcia
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: comedy stuff. Uh, but she is coming across as an, uh,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: a believable human character. So, uh, for those who are
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: big dropout fans who want to see people and drop
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: out doing other stuff, here's a, it's like 12 minutes long.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: You can watch it and, you know, go on with
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: your life.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I do look forward to watching it because I
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: do love Anna Garcia. She's a very brilliant and talented actor.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: And that's all we have for this week. So, Jonathan,
• 1:38:20
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• 1:38:23
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• 1:38:26
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• 1:38:28
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• 1:38:30
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• 1:38:33
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• 1:38:36
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• 1:38:40
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• 1:38:43
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• 1:38:45
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• 1:38:48
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• 1:38:51
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• 1:38:53
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• 1:38:56
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• 1:38:58
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• 1:39:01
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• 1:39:05
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• 1:39:09
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• 1:39:12
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• 1:39:16
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• 1:39:18
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• 1:39:22
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• 1:39:27
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• 1:39:41
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