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September 30, 2025 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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  Speaker 1: With the lord of Aernord when six thousand tons that
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  Speaker 1: amazing song by Gordon Lightfoot, that's the only thing that
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  Speaker 1: I ever knew about the Edmund Fitzgerald. But John Bacon
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  Speaker 1: is going to fill us in here in just a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow on the program, Scott Clintonon will join us.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure we'll have lots of topics.
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  Speaker 1: We have got playoff baseball, Yankees and Red Sox will
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  Speaker 1: be starting here soon. Also earlier today, the Cubs took
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  Speaker 1: down the Padres three to one at Wrigley. The Tigers
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  Speaker 1: in Cleveland behind Trek Scoubel two to one. Scooble with
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  Speaker 1: fourteen strikeouts in that game. And then tonight we have
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the Reds. That is the late game
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  Speaker 1: of the day. So we've got all of that going
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  Speaker 1: for us, I think, which is nice. The Earl Campbell
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  Speaker 1: out of Virginia. Trey Zoon has been named to the
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  Speaker 1: watch list for the Jason Witten Collegiate Man of the Year.
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  Speaker 5: So all of that going on today. We're waiting here.
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  Speaker 1: In just a minute, we're going to be joined by
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  Speaker 1: John Bacon and his book.
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  Speaker 5: Thursday, we'll have.
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  Speaker 1: Another high school report, We've got the Clark Eisenhower Outdoor Edition,
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  Speaker 1: and on Friday, of course, Young Ryan holding down the
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  Speaker 5: All right, we're ready.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, We're going to jump out to the players
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  Speaker 1: Fun Center phone line and visit with author John Bacon.
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  Speaker 1: His book out next week is called The Gales of November,
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  Speaker 1: The Untold Story of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
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  Speaker 5: John.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to oversell this, but I've told my
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  Speaker 1: listeners this is one of the best books I've ever read.
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  Speaker 9: Hey over sell away chip go Nuts.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, let's let's start with just the culture, the freight
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  Speaker 1: along the Great Lakes and the culture that existed then
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  Speaker 1: and does some extent still exists.
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  Speaker 9: That's correct. Look, I'm from Annibra, Michigan. We spent our
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  Speaker 9: summers on Lake Michigan. I've I have swam in all
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  Speaker 9: these lakes, sailed them, motor boateed them, et cetera. And
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  Speaker 9: I didn't know anything. So it turns out the culture
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  Speaker 9: these things are the greatest, the biggest lakes in the
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  Speaker 9: world combined. They're bigger than all of New England plus
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  Speaker 9: the state of New York. People have no sense of
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  Speaker 9: just how gigantic these things are. You can't see across them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: they're that big. They like oceans. So when you're on there,
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  Speaker 9: of course the Great Lake shipping. Pretty much all your
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  Speaker 9: stuff comes from these Great Lakes freighters. The cement in
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  Speaker 9: your basement, the steel in your car, the cereal on
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  Speaker 9: your table, it's all from the Great Lakes and off
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  Speaker 9: of these ships. So the colle sure is an intense one.
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  Speaker 9: One I knew almost nothing about. Is I said, they're
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  Speaker 9: about three hundred freighters, and back in those days, who
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  Speaker 9: did this work? Now it's about one hundred and there
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  Speaker 9: for about nine thousand guys. You do it, and they're
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  Speaker 9: on these ships nine months out of the year. So
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  Speaker 9: I was wondering, as a friend of mine said, we
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  Speaker 9: know the farmer, the factory worker, the minor, but no
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  Speaker 9: one knows the sailor. And I thought, why is that?
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  Speaker 9: Because they're never home. You couldn't meet them.
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  Speaker 5: This ship, the Edmund Fitzgerald.
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  Speaker 1: Is it fair to compare it to the Titanic in
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  Speaker 1: its day and that it was unsinkable?
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  Speaker 5: It was the best of the best.
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  Speaker 9: It is completely fair. And that's another thing that I
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  Speaker 9: didn't know. Shame on me as I say, ship, is
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  Speaker 9: that this ship really was all that. And you know,
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  Speaker 9: we're both football guys. Oftentimes you dig back into you
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  Speaker 9: know the Four Horsemen. Well you read about the four Horsemen.
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  Speaker 9: He realized they won that game thirteen to nine. That's
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  Speaker 9: not an apocalypse. That's a couple of field goals. So
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  Speaker 9: it's not always that way. In this case, the Fifth
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  Speaker 9: really was all that. It was the longest ship in
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  Speaker 9: the Great Lakes, the widest, could carry the most cargo.
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  Speaker 9: Is one of the fastest, has set all the records
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  Speaker 9: for cargo year in, year out, again and again and again.
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  Speaker 9: And it was also the nicest and most famous. It
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  Speaker 9: was vip quarters, the best food in the Great Lakes,
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  Speaker 9: the best crew, the best captain, and when they're going
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  Speaker 9: past some of the inlets like the Sioux Locks or
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  Speaker 9: the Detroit River, crowds would wait for them a day
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  Speaker 9: in advance. Sheer the ship on this ship really was
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  Speaker 9: all that.
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  Speaker 5: Tell our listeners what taconite is.
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  Speaker 9: Ah, I've got some in a little jar on my
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  Speaker 9: desk right now, and I didn't know that either beforehand.
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  Speaker 9: So taconite. If you think about how fracking has restored
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  Speaker 9: drilling in America for petroleum, all the easy wells have
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  Speaker 9: been taken. So what do you do I have to
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  Speaker 9: do fracking well? After World War Two, all the easy
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  Speaker 9: iron ore had been taken out of northern Minnesota and
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  Speaker 9: northern Wisconsin and the upper Peninsula of Michigan. And here's
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  Speaker 9: a fun fact for you. Those miners, by the way,
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  Speaker 9: lived in caves in the winter. Their nicknames were the
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  Speaker 9: Gophers in Minnesota and the Badgers in Wisconsin. Football fans,
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  Speaker 9: those mascots come from miners not from animals, so how
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  Speaker 9: about that one. But anyway, so after World War two,
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  Speaker 9: professor up there in Minnesota figured out how to take
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  Speaker 9: this refuse this pac andite the throwaway stuff and turn
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  Speaker 9: it into these pellets in my hand good radio hunh yes.
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  Speaker 9: But they're about marble sized. And they put about five
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  Speaker 9: hundred million of these things, twenty six thousand tons on
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  Speaker 9: one of these ships. And these pebbles basically cocoa puffs
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  Speaker 9: is what they look like. They pile onto the ship
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  Speaker 9: and they get them off at Ford Motor Company and
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  Speaker 9: Dearborn right off the De Tred River. They smelt them.
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  Speaker 9: They melt them down right then and there, and those
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  Speaker 9: who have become a car by the end of the day.
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  Speaker 9: So and on one of these ships, on the Fitzgerald,
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  Speaker 9: they hold enough attackonite to build a seven thousand cars
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  Speaker 9: per cargo load. And they did this fifty times a year.
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  Speaker 9: That's one ship. So that's where your car comes from.
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  Speaker 5: Fifty eight million pounds? Did I get that right?
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  Speaker 9: I know you can't believe it, but it's true. It's
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  Speaker 9: the equivalent of four thousand adult elephants on one ship
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  Speaker 9: every trip, which is once per week.
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  Speaker 5: And the laws and they were a little bit loose.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the Edmund Fitzgerald probably put more taconite in the
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  Speaker 1: holes of that ship than probably they should have.
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  Speaker 5: Is that fair to say?
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  Speaker 9: That is more than fair to say, Chip, I love
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  Speaker 9: your show, but I love it for football. Of course,
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  Speaker 9: my man, your listeners better know that you've done your
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  Speaker 9: homework here. You do your homework, well done, exactly right.
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  Speaker 9: Something called the Plimsaw line from Great Britain in the
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  Speaker 9: eighteen fifties and sixties. The line painted on a ship,
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  Speaker 9: but you're not allowed to have that go beneath the
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  Speaker 9: water line, so you lower your ship up. If you
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  Speaker 9: go belong with that line, insurance is not going to
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  Speaker 9: cover you. But everyone in the Great Lakes cheated in
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  Speaker 9: that line. I got a whole chapter called cheating the
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  Speaker 9: plimp cell line. Yeah, how you hose down the deck
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  Speaker 9: to cool it down, which raises the ship amazingly in
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  Speaker 9: the middle. You dump the potable water, there's stuff you're
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  Speaker 9: drinking to raise the ship. All kinds of ways to
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  Speaker 9: cheat this thing. And then the government itself gave you
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  Speaker 9: out of nowhere three and a half more feet of
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  Speaker 9: what's called freeboard, which means you're allowed to sink in
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  Speaker 9: the water three and a half more feet in the
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  Speaker 9: late sixties thirty seventies, right before this accident. So a
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  Speaker 9: ship not built for this is now taking on much
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  Speaker 9: more than it should.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the captain, Ernest mcsorly.
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  Speaker 1: How would describe him as you did in your book?
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  Speaker 9: Sure he was the short answer. He's the best captain
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  Speaker 9: on the Great Lakes, flat out. And his competitors told
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  Speaker 9: me that. His former crew told me that that was
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  Speaker 9: his reputation. The best in the rough weather, the best
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  Speaker 9: pilot on the Great Lakes, they said he could do.
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  Speaker 9: These things are seven hundred and twenty nine feet long.
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  Speaker 9: Think about that for a second. That's a seventy three
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  Speaker 9: story building on its side. It's the biggest build in
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  Speaker 9: the state of Michigan. The Runissance center.
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  Speaker 1: Outside two and a half football fields, two and a.
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  Speaker 9: Football fields, and it's only seventy five feet wide, so
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  Speaker 9: two and at football fields and not even as wide
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  Speaker 9: as a baseball pass wide. Crazy, So it's it's a
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  Speaker 9: crazy design. But anyway, this guy with two ships on
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  Speaker 9: either side of a gigantic dock that goes half a mile,
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  Speaker 9: he could land that thing without bumping into either ship
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  Speaker 9: five feet gap on either side, as one guy said,
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  Speaker 9: as though he's parking his forward f one fifty in
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  Speaker 9: the parking lot. He was that good. So he was
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  Speaker 9: the best in the lakes. Also the most revered captain.
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  Speaker 9: His crew loved him. He's a good guy, and each
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  Speaker 9: time he was promoted to another ship, his crew very
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  Speaker 9: happily came with him.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So you describe in great detail the weather
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  Speaker 1: on the Great Lakes and on Superior, and the day
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  Speaker 1: this ship left was a bluebird day?
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  Speaker 5: Was it not? Seventy degrees?
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  Speaker 9: Exactly right? And trust me, you're in Texas, I believe correct. Yes,
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  Speaker 9: So all right, seventy degrees in Texas. You know you
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  Speaker 9: call that what November December exact degrees in Duluth, Minnesota
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  Speaker 9: is strange. So, yeah, that is at the very top
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  Speaker 9: of the United States. It's the western point of Lake Superior,
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  Speaker 9: which is so cold no one swims in it ever
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  Speaker 9: year round. It's just too cold for that. So seventy
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  Speaker 9: degrees sounds great. But here's the bad news. The longer
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  Speaker 9: winter takes to arrive in the Great Lakes, the angrier
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  Speaker 9: it arrives. It's like a damn breaking. So it's a
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  Speaker 9: beautiful day on Sunday, seventy degrees. It turns nasty fast.
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  Speaker 9: There are two storms coming in one the Alberta Clipper
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  Speaker 9: from Edmonton and Calgary. Hockey Town's the course that's bringing cold,
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  Speaker 9: dry air across the plains. That's not unusual this time
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  Speaker 9: of year. What is unusual from where you are the
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  Speaker 9: southwest United States, from California across Arizona to Texas, Oklahoma, Iowa.
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  Speaker 9: A hot, wet storm equally strong. And these two storm
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  Speaker 9: systems are gonna collide right over Lake Superior. In fact,
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  Speaker 9: I'm going to collide right in front of what's called
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  Speaker 9: Whitefish Bay, this little pocket at the end of the
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  Speaker 9: eastern end of Superior. As the song goes, that's the
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  Speaker 9: ship is heading, and these two storms set up shop.
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  Speaker 9: We've got Catcher Guardian.
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  Speaker 1: Home plate and until.
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  Speaker 5: The storms arrive.
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  Speaker 1: I want people to know that the weather and the
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  Speaker 1: National Weather Service and all of these things they weren't
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  Speaker 1: quite what they are today, were.
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  Speaker 9: They Your phone has more power than they had fifty
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  Speaker 9: years ago, and part of that was technology, but part
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  Speaker 9: of that was simply complacency on both the National Weather
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  Speaker 9: Services part as well as the captain's part. So two
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  Speaker 9: things have improved dramatically since then. Forecasting ability and communicating
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  Speaker 9: that with the captains did not exist then. So these
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  Speaker 9: captains knew very little of this storm. They knew the
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  Speaker 9: Alberta Clipper was coming down, They did not know about
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  Speaker 9: the southwestern storm. Only at the last minute they decided
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  Speaker 9: to go the safe way, the northern route, the longer way,
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  Speaker 9: hugging the shore of Lake Superior through Canada, and that
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  Speaker 9: safety measure Unfortunately ship. It's kind of tragic.
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  Speaker 2: Ye.
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  Speaker 9: This captain is known for going go go go pedals
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  Speaker 9: in the metal. He never turned around in storms, he
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  Speaker 9: never sought shelter. This time he finally takes the safe route,
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  Speaker 9: which he doesn't know as well. A few problems there. One,
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  Speaker 9: you just gave the storm fourteen more hours to beat
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  Speaker 9: you to Whitefish Point, as I said home Plate, so
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  Speaker 9: didn't know that. The second thing is now he's not trained.
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  Speaker 9: Water that he does not know nearly as well, including
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  Speaker 9: this little speck of an island called Cariboo Island. It's
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  Speaker 9: one mile by three miles. It's in the middle of
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  Speaker 9: a lake that is thirteen hundred feet deep, and in
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  Speaker 9: front of that island is what's called six fathoms shoal.
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  Speaker 9: A fathom is six feet. Six fathoms is therefore thirty
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  Speaker 9: six feet. But this thing is only eleven feet deep
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  Speaker 9: in certain places. That's no deeper than your backyard pool
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  Speaker 9: at that point. And this thing already has twenty nine
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  Speaker 9: feet underwater on a good day, and this is not
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  Speaker 9: a good day. Thirty forty fifty foot waves, one hundred
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  Speaker 9: mile per hour winds that knock over trailer parks and
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  Speaker 9: cars and so on, and he's walking into all that.
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  Speaker 9: He ended up in the exact wrong place at the
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  Speaker 9: exact wrong time.
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  Speaker 1: This There had been a similar storm years before, correct,
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  Speaker 1: But this is one of those every fifty to one
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  Speaker 1: hundred year kind of storms that he sailed into.
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  Speaker 9: Exactly right, Chip and again, my man, And you're passing
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  Speaker 9: the quit is left and right, So cheap it up.
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  Speaker 9: When they we'll talk football, well you'll show off there
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  Speaker 9: you're nailing this stuff. The Storm of the Century was
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  Speaker 9: nineteen thirteen on four of the five lakes. Twenty ships
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  Speaker 9: were lost, around three hundred men on the Great Lakes Miserable.
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  Speaker 9: But that Storm of the Century did not last from
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  Speaker 9: the century only sixty two more years. This storm was
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  Speaker 9: the worst storm of the century November tenth, nineteen seventy five.
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  Speaker 1: And why is it, John, tell our listeners, why these
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  Speaker 1: storms on this lake and on the Great Lakes are
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  Speaker 1: worse than the storms that we see the crab catchers
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  Speaker 1: fighting out of Russia in Saltwater.
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  Speaker 9: Man. Yet one more thing, Chip, I did not know
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  Speaker 9: that the Great Lakes, according to commercial sailors around these
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  Speaker 9: big ships all the time. John Hayes did twenty three
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  Speaker 9: years on the Great Lakes. In twelve on the Atlantic.
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  Speaker 9: I talked about a dozen guys who sailed in both
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  Speaker 9: the Atlantic and the Great Lakes, and they said, it's
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  Speaker 9: not even close. The Great Lakes are far more dangerous.
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  Speaker 9: And anyone who's done both will tell you that, like
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  Speaker 9: that's news to me. And here's why. Salt water weighs
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  Speaker 9: down the waves, so instead of being pointy, they're smooth
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  Speaker 9: on top, they're spread out. They come half as fast
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  Speaker 9: as the Great Lakes waves, and they're opping from a
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  Speaker 9: storm a thousand miles away, even an earthquake a thousand
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  Speaker 9: miles away. Great Lakes storms are right above you, including
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  Speaker 9: this one, so their effect is immediate and intense. The
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  Speaker 9: fresh water waves are pointy at the top, not like
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  Speaker 9: roller coasters, like mountain ranges. And they're also twice as
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  Speaker 9: close together, so instead of coming every ten or sixteen seconds,
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  Speaker 9: they come forward to eight seconds, which is disastrous because
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  Speaker 9: now you've got your bow in one end of a
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  Speaker 9: thirty foot wave and nothing in the middle, and then
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  Speaker 9: a different wave, a second wave, has got your stern
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  Speaker 9: lifted feet in between. You have four thousand elephants of taconite.
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  Speaker 9: That means your ship is going to crack but nothing
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  Speaker 9: supporting it, and that happens all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So would we say thirty five to fifty foot waves?
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  Speaker 1: Some people will go, well, you know, people on the
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  Speaker 1: water tend to exaggerate. You think that these waves were
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  Speaker 1: exactly that high and in some cases maybe even higher.
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  Speaker 1: From everybody you've talked to and researched, that was.
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  Speaker 9: A central question, Chip And by the way, roupily short interview,
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  Speaker 9: you're nailing all the high points, so kudos on that.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That.
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  Speaker 9: My first question was, well, first of all, who the
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  Speaker 9: hell is measuring these things? With the tape message? Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: how do you measure a wave? Second of aut who
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  Speaker 9: believes any of this stuff? I mean, you know, who
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  Speaker 9: can say exactly. Well, turns out they've done studies on
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  Speaker 9: this stuff, and they've discovered that unofficial sailors, amateur sailors
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  Speaker 9: and small boats exaggerate the waves and stay shows that
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  Speaker 9: experienced sailors on freighters and big ships underestimate the waves.
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  Speaker 9: And then we've got scientists at Michigan Tech University and
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  Speaker 9: the University of Michigan with buoys out there measuring this stuff.
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  Speaker 9: And now we have computer models and so on thirty,
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  Speaker 9: forty and fifty foot waves they definitely faced that night.
• 18:17
  Speaker 9: We can prove that with technology and a fifty foot
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: wave hitting the shit with only ten feet above water,
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: that's a problem. It's not the splashy whitewater. This was
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: called greenwater. That means you are underwater and you hope
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: the ship bobs out each time every fort to eight
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: seconds it keeps on coming up. But eventually it didn't.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And when we say this stuff came up quickly, I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: mean we're talking immediate, almost correct, and it just got
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: worse exactly.
• 18:47
  Speaker 9: In fact, one hour away was the Arthur Anderson that
• 18:50
  Speaker 9: ship I've been on, actually traveled on. It was one
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: hour away, about ten fifteen miles communicating the whole time,
• 18:57
  Speaker 9: it was seen different weather than the Fitzgerald was just
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: being fifteen miles away. So again, the Fitzgerald was in
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: the wrong place the wrong time more than any other
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: ship that night.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: And mcsurely being the captain, and I think it was
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Captain Bernie Cooper on the on the Anderson who was
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: following him when he slowed down. When McSorley slowed down
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the Edmund Fitzgerald in order for that ship to catch up,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I think the captain knew there was something wrong going
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: on on the Edmund Fitzgerald for that to happen.
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: Yes, exactly right, Chip. Look, these nautical captains are kind
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: of like airline pilots, and we're used to that. Yeah,
• 19:37
  Speaker 9: no matter how much your plane is bouncing around, what
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: does the guy say he gets on there with his
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: slow Southern drowses, ladies and gentlemen, we'll have a little
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: turbulence for the next half an hour or so. That's
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: what these guys are like. And in fact they're more
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: so like that because they don't want to put anything
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: on the radio to give their competition information that helps
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: them get to the port for they do and they can
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: unload for us. They're very competitive like football coaches basically,
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: so he's not putting much out there. But even he's
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: got to admit in two phone calls to transmissions to
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: the Arthur Anderson that his fence railing is down, his
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: vent covers are off, some water's coming in there. Now
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: he's got a list, which means is leaning to the
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: right heavily starboard side. At first, it's a passing concern.
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: Two hours later is the first thing that he mentions.
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: That means that water is getting into your ship and
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: tilting it to the right four to seven degrees. That's
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: bad news.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: As good as McSorley was. You write about the possibility
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: of fatigue. He had been up a long time, and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: by the time this storm got bad, he's in the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: middle of it. He doesn't know where he is, he's
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: turned around, the waves are crashing. He ends up, as
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you've mentioned, probably along this sixth fathom shoal, because one
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: of the divers, did he not discovered maroon paint from
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the ship at the bottom of that shoal?
• 20:58
  Speaker 11: Dead right?
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: Yes?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: You.
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: First of all, he's not slept in thirty six hours,
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: because captains don't in these situations. Second thing is it's
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: called motion fatigue. The Navy studies this, and it's about
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: the same as being drunk. No matter how experienced you are.
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: If you're on a roller coaster for a day and
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: a half, your brain's a little loopy. You can't help it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: And then you've got these old charts. They call them
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: map We call them maps, they call them charts. He
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: might have used the wrong chart at the wrong time,
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: which sent him directly over six fathom shoal Anderson thought
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: he did go over that Showal probably hit. If you hit,
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: that's where the water came from. And now you've got
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: all knt of problems. And then you also mentioned another
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: safety measure he took, which might have been the wrong one. Tragically,
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: he waited for an hour for the Anderson to catch up. Yeah,
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: he's got no long radar, no short radar. That's out.
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: The lighthouse he's looking for. The light and the radio
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: beacon are both out. He's truly blind in a sideway snowstorm,
• 21:54
  Speaker 9: miserable one hundred miles p hour wins. It makes sense,
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: except right the storm is going ahead of him to
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: Whitefish Point and he's taken on water. If he had
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: gone straight through like he usually would, have he might
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: have made it.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So the only thing I knew about this, and I'm
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: guessing the majority of Americans who even know about it
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: was Gordon Lightfoot song which came out a year later
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six, The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: You do a great job of talking about that. I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: was really interested in When it first came out, the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: families thought that he was capitalizing on their tragedy, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it was far from that.
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: Wasn't it exactly right? He was a sailor himself on
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: the Great Lakes. He's actually pretty good sailor. He had
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: great empathy. He was very concerned about the family's reactions.
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: He is also extremely concerned about getting every detail right,
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: and that song for a song, is ninety eight percent accurate.
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: He did a great job and changed the lyrics a
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: couple times when more evidence came out as to what
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: actually happened. So he was a very good guy about that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: And if you get on Rolling Stone Magazine today online,
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: those two chapters are now online. The first excerpt is
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: running today. The unlike the creation of the song and
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: the even more unlikely success of the song, here's a
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: fun fact for you and you know this one already.
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: He had never played it in public. They're finishing an
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: album in Toronto and they had a five day contract
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: for the studio. They finished the album after three and
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: a half days. He still has not recorded or even
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: played the Memphis Gerald song. And finally the guy in
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: the studio says, look, man, I'm charging you whether you
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: played anything else or not. You've got a day and
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: a half. The studio's here, the guys are here, why
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: not try it. So they played the song first time.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: Anybody but Gordon Life It had heard it. They finished
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: the song and said, you know what, that's not half bad.
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: They tried ten more times. It was never as good
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: as that time. The song you hear on the radio
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: is actually the first time the group ever played the song,
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: and that never ever happens in recording. So because they
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: that was the difference, they felt it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I could probably do another hour, John, but I will
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I will not do that. I hope that we have
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: peaked the interest of people. This book is out next week.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: It is just a phenomenal story. We just hit a
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: little of the high points. He deals with the entire
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: crew that went down that day, and let's end with this, John,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: there were lots of ships at the bottom of the
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Great Lakes when the Edmund Fitzgerald went down in nineteen
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: seventy five, where they're not.
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: There are least between eighteen seventy five and nineteen seventy
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: five at least six thousand commercial shipwrecks. That's one per
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: week per century. And you know where I'm going with this, Yep,
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: not one since. Because that the Memphis Gerald a Titanic
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: going down so shocked the industry. He finally got right
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: about forecasting, about communication, even about common sense. It's too rough.
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: Don't go out. There's not been one loss since an
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: amazing record.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: That was November tenth, nineteen seventy five. The book is
• 25:10
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• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Bacon wrote it. John, I can't thank you enough for
• 25:16
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  Speaker 1: we've spoken Mallory, the latest Bobby flay flaing has become public.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, they were spotted together with some PDA at
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the US Open last Thursday night.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: People love PDA at the US Open. I don't know
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: what it is.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Fellow chef Brooke Williamson going strong. They celebrated her birthday
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: earlier this month. She documented it on Instagram, so it's official.
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Two chefs, yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not only not only two, not only two chefs.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure of her history with with other men.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's great. I do know of Bobby's
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: history with women, and it is not good.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, maybe they're just having fun.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Maybe they are Bobby.
• 30:01
  Speaker 14: If I know anything about chefs is they're very spirited
• 30:04
  Speaker 14: and yeah, crazy in.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: A good way, you do.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Bobby will turn sixty one in December. Brooke just celebrated
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: her forty seventh birthday.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Oh well, she's got time if she needs she does.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: And Bobby has got the money. Yeah, he has just
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: announced a deal with basically a Canadian entrepreneur and franchise
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: executive in which he is going to open a bunch
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: of restaurants in Canada. So he is expanding the brand
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: as if he.
• 30:53
  Speaker 14: Needs it, you know, as I say, he was really
• 30:56
  Speaker 14: hurting for money.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, I mean he's gotta go.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Sixty sixty one. It's finally time for him to settle down.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: He's settled down about I think four other times, so he.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Doesn't his history.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Is not great maybe by the way, by the way,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: they're kind of working together, you know, they do all
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: these shows together, and I'm going, so what happens.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: You know, when the inevitable takes place?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Because I'm I'm pretty sure Bobby, take pretty sure Bobby's
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: not getting fired because.
• 31:38
  Speaker 14: They could take a page out of all the books
• 31:42
  Speaker 14: of all those other.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Just hate each other on screen.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Ye make you more money if any I guess. I guess, well,
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: we'll see. I give it three months.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Oh that's general.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome. Right before Christmas.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Gotta cut ties exactly.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk.
• 32:09
  Speaker 14: About another love couple who's destined to last forever.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey may have shared their.
• 32:15
  Speaker 14: Engagement news with the world, but their actual wedding won't
• 32:19
  Speaker 14: be such a public affair.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Chip, I don't know. They did say they do want
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: to keep it more private.
• 32:25
  Speaker 14: When they tie the knot, it will definitely be a
• 32:27
  Speaker 14: private affair and not a spectacle. They both have a
• 32:30
  Speaker 14: closer cole difference and they respect their privacy.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: We'll see.
• 32:36
  Speaker 14: Apparently she's incredibly happy, which I would hope.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: So if you're engaged to someone, it would be horrible
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: if you weren't excited about that. The engagement is a cherry.
• 32:46
  Speaker 14: On top of this wonderful error for both Swift and Kelsey,
• 32:50
  Speaker 14: who recently kicked off his thirteenth NFL season. I'm a
• 32:54
  Speaker 14: little mad at Travis Kelce right now.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I play fantasy football.
• 32:57
  Speaker 14: And he took out one of my players right now,
• 33:00
  Speaker 14: out which ivis Kelsey.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: But don't come for.
• 33:02
  Speaker 14: Me, Swifties, all right, I know I'm my word is
• 33:05
  Speaker 14: so important to everyone. But she is gearing up for
• 33:10
  Speaker 14: her highly Taylor Swift is gearing up her highly anticipated
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: October third release of her forthcoming album, The Life of
• 33:18
  Speaker 14: a Shower Girl. What she worked on between the air
• 33:20
  Speaker 14: tour stops.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think this shake ever? Does she sleep? I
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 33:25
  Speaker 14: As for wedding planning, the couple are taking things one
• 33:28
  Speaker 14: step at a time.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I mean they have people that they could definitely have
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: what I don't know.
• 33:33
  Speaker 14: I feel like Taylor Swift might be a little bit
• 33:35
  Speaker 14: of like control godzilla.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think she's a god Well maybe I don't
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: know her.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: She is gonna be a bride zilla, I promise you,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: But but it's gonna be Martha can come in and
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: straighten all that out.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: She's already said she'd help.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I would love to see that dynamic.
• 33:57
  Speaker 14: Yeah, hey, maybe call Megan Markle talk about you, talk
• 34:02
  Speaker 14: about it.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: Cat fight Martha and Taylor.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you'd have to have a referee for
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 34:10
  Speaker 14: Look, now that we're talking about this, I would love
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: to see Martha Stewart and Megan Markle have a conversation
• 34:16
  Speaker 14: because I feel like that.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Would not be good either.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 34:21
  Speaker 14: I'm just saying anyway, So guys, they're not gonna, you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 14: have a whole reality show over their weddings, so you
• 34:30
  Speaker 14: can't watch it on TV unfortunately probably not.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You know, what can you do?
• 34:38
  Speaker 14: Well, I didn't even know that I was going to
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: talk about this, but what a great you know segue.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Prince Harry is giving back out of his pocket.
• 34:47
  Speaker 14: He donated one point five million to a leading fundraiser
• 34:50
  Speaker 14: for young people in the UK to make an impact
• 34:52
  Speaker 14: in the city he's been. He's become closely linked with
• 34:55
  Speaker 14: the Money for Children in Need, which is also contributing
• 35:00
  Speaker 14: four hundred and six thousand dollars will support young people's
• 35:03
  Speaker 14: grassroots organizations in Nottingham or Nottingham Sorry.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Where he visited on today? He visited today?
• 35:10
  Speaker 14: Wow, Yeah, it will go towards combating the challenges spaced
• 35:15
  Speaker 14: by young people living in areas affected by his violence
• 35:17
  Speaker 14: in the city. Nottingham is a place that he has
• 35:21
  Speaker 14: frequently visited over the years, and he wanted to use
• 35:24
  Speaker 14: his trip to the I didn't even know he was
• 35:25
  Speaker 14: in the UK.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: But here it was unannounced.
• 35:30
  Speaker 14: I mean, maybe that's just how he wants to do
• 35:32
  Speaker 14: it from now on, and I don't blame him now
• 35:34
  Speaker 14: that he don't have protection, you know.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: The no nation was announced as he spent.
• 35:39
  Speaker 14: Time at the Lively Community Recording Studio and caught up
• 35:43
  Speaker 14: with other local groups Epic Partners, young people in the
• 35:47
  Speaker 14: area's police and crime commissioners. During his visit visit, he
• 35:51
  Speaker 14: did give a speech in which he stated that he
• 35:53
  Speaker 14: was making a significant investment in the community.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I believe in what you're doing, he said, So he's
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: will help in the UK.
• 36:02
  Speaker 14: Good for him putting unnecessary garnishes on her homemade food.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I guess that he's making. I don't even know what
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: it is. He's like, I need to get out of here.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'll see you later, take a quick trip.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: So I'm very excited.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: November sixteenth, Landman second season is being released. We know
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: that Demi Moore has got a larger role since the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: shocking death of founder Monte Miller, who is John Hammon
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the season one finale. Uh Tommy Norris aka belly Bob's
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: been appointed m Tech's president and tapped more the company
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: majority stakeholder to serve alongside him. There's a newfound partnership.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, it's not exactly a smooth transition. The dynamic
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: is certainly interesting. Look, you've got to listen to me
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: because you've never done this before. Tell Billy Bob tells
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: her and her outlook on that is. How am I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: going to learn?
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: If you do everything? Hmmm?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: So you know we're about to We're about to get real.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: There's some new people in here too. Sam Elliott is
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: in the cast, which I just love Sam Elliott, right,
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  Speaker 1: how can you not? So I am exciting. I am
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  Speaker 1: counting the days. Man, I really like this show. So
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  Speaker 1: not for children, by the way, parents not for children.
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  Speaker 14: I mean this in the nicest way, but I feel
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  Speaker 14: like usually when Billy.
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  Speaker 2: Bob and I know he's fantastic in.
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  Speaker 1: This Yes, he was born to play the role, usually
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  Speaker 1: it's not a kid.
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  Speaker 5: It's not kid.
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  Speaker 1: Family, You are correct. Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson have
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  Speaker 1: a musical coming out based on Neil Diamond called song
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  Speaker 1: Sung Blue real life Milwaukee area couple Mike and Clear Sardina,
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  Speaker 1: who formed the band Lightning and Thunder in tribute to Diamond,
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  Speaker 1: who's now eighty four. The movie meets Jackman and Hudson's characters,
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  Speaker 1: they express a desire for something more out of life.
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  Speaker 1: Claire wishes for a life beyond working as a hairdresser.
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  Speaker 1: Mike desires to do something big, something new. The trailer,
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  Speaker 1: which just dropped, follows the pair's relationship as it develops.
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  Speaker 1: Their performances begin with snippets at Jackman and Hudson performing
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  Speaker 1: Cherry Cherry and Sweet Caroline, written and directed by Craig Brewer.
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  Speaker 1: Song Sung Blue is based on a two two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and eight documentary of the same name, based on a
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  Speaker 1: true story. To down on their luck, musicians form a
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  Speaker 1: joyous Neil Diamond tribute band, proving it's never too late
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  Speaker 1: to find love and follow your dreams. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if the movie will be any good, but I guarantee
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  Speaker 1: the music will be good.
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  Speaker 5: Well, there's that and Hugh Jackson. Hugh Jackman's a terrific performer,
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  Speaker 5: he really is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's coming out just in time for Christmas apparently.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, there you go, there you go.
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  Speaker 9: Well.
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  Speaker 14: John Krasinski and Emily Blunt hit the Red Carpet and
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  Speaker 14: The Smashing Machine at the Toronto and International Film Festival.
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  Speaker 5: That's the one with the rock in it. I believe,
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  Speaker 5: I believe.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 14: She did wear a pair of low ricke, slouchy pin
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  Speaker 2: Her top was more intricate.
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  Speaker 14: It had a triangle cutout in the center of her chest.
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  Speaker 2: So there was a lot, a lot going on.
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  Speaker 14: I would love to explain this to you, but even
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  Speaker 14: She wore her brown hair and loose waves, and her
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  Speaker 14: glam included a nude lip and a shimmering nude eyed
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  Speaker 14: shadow with.
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  Speaker 2: A nude blood.
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  Speaker 5: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of that. John did sport
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  Speaker 2: a dark gray glen plaid.
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  Speaker 14: Suit with a coordinating vests and a black tie and
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  Speaker 14: a black patent leather loafer.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 14: Emily did take a break from as we know, she
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  Speaker 14: is filming The Devil Wears Protitude in their premiere.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes she is.
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  Speaker 14: It's very There's been spoilers all over the place. Okay,
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  Speaker 14: I mean it's New York City. What are you going
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  Speaker 14: to do in twenty twenty five?
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  Speaker 1: There's assuming I'm assuming Meryl Streep, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: She is, Yes, of course, of course, how could they not?
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  Speaker 2: Could they have that without me?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? I never saw the movie.
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  Speaker 2: She is rocking the new Red block who she plays.
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  Speaker 14: Her character has read the hair, so she has been
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  Speaker 14: rocking the Red Hair. But yeah, Anne Hathaway, Meryl Street uh.
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  Speaker 14: And Stanley who plays Stanley.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how to say his last name. He
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  Speaker 2: plays Nigel. Uh.
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  Speaker 14: They're also reprising their rules nice and it has been
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  Speaker 14: filming in the city, which again I've been seeing a
• 41:31
  Speaker 14: little bit here and there.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I mentioned the Rock because his appearance at the Venice
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  Speaker 1: Film Festival confirmed he's quote in the process of slimming down.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: For another different I don't know skinny's the right word. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he's a big guy.
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  Speaker 2: Was it wasn't the michelin man. Essentially, it doesn't look like.
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  Speaker 1: His latest project that's called Lizard Music will He'll play
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: a whimsical, eccentric, seventy something year old man, adding that
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: when it comes to wait, quote, I still have a
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  Speaker 1: long ways to go. So we have it. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen Rock in his final skinny form apparently yet. And
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: then there's this Kristen Cabot, the woman caught on the
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Coldplay screen, has finally said quote she was amicably separated
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  Speaker 1: from her now estranged husband several weeks before the viral moment.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Cabot, speaking out about the kiss cam and his divorce,
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  Speaker 1: said he and Kristen were privately and amicably separated before
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  Speaker 1: the concert. Andrew's the CEO of Privateer Rum. Kristen, of course,
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  Speaker 1: caught kissing the CEO of Astronomer, where she worked. Kristen
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  Speaker 1: foled for the divorce less than a month after the
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  Speaker 1: Coldplay concert. Their decision, according to Andrew, was underway prior
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  Speaker 1: to that evening. Kristin and Andy's moment on the jumbo
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  Speaker 1: tron went viral. Even lead seer Chris Martin noticed the reaction.
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  Speaker 1: Either they're having an affair or they're very shy, he
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  Speaker 1: said at the time. Of course, Kristin and Andy are
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  Speaker 1: can find a way to make some money.
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  Speaker 5: They're gonna need it.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, maybe Hydro significant others from them as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Stay stay away from kiss cams.
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  Speaker 2: Oh there's that. Yeah, maybe I don't know. Chip My
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  Speaker 2: show is coming back Fancing with the Star.
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  Speaker 14: It is, yeah, and there was a surprising name on
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  Speaker 14: the pro side of the ballroom.
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  Speaker 2: I was a little surprised that he was came back.
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  Speaker 14: But Mark ballas previously won on the show three times,
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  Speaker 14: retired from his career as a pro on Dancing with
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  Speaker 14: Charlie Demilio in season thirty one. To be fair, he
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  Speaker 14: was kind of out of the spotlight for a little
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  Speaker 14: bit before than though, so it was kind of surprising
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  Speaker 14: he came back for that one season anyways, But regardless,
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  Speaker 14: following the conclusion of Dancing with the Stars tour in
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  Speaker 14: March of twenty twenty three, he did formally announce his retirement.
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  Speaker 14: He said, I've done twenty season seasons now. I started
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  Speaker 14: this journey when I was twenty one, twenty two and
• 44:55
  Speaker 14: honestly being able to dance and perform for your fans,
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  Speaker 14: you guys are the best f I want to finish
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  Speaker 14: this by saying this will be the last time in
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  Speaker 14: this capacity.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna well, this was.
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  Speaker 1: Like a boxer or any other professional athlete, he can't
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  Speaker 1: let it go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't ever say it's the end because you never know.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 14: But yeah, he's back, and he's dancing with a girl
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  Speaker 14: named Whitney from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which
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  Speaker 14: I have heard of that, but I doubt you've heard
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  Speaker 14: of much.
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  Speaker 5: No, I have not that. Whitney. No, I have not
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  Speaker 5: heard of it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Another show that's coming back soon which I like, only
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Murders in the Building introducing new characters this year the
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: ten installment episode, of course, Steve Martin, Selena Gomez Martin short,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: let's see, Christophe Waltz is going to join the cast.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Renee Zellwegger is going to join the cast. Martha No, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Camilla White played by Renee Zellwiger gives off
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  Speaker 1: Martha Stewart vibes logan Luermann.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say, Martha Stewart is.
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  Speaker 1: A billionaire that shows up. They were delightful, says Steve Martin.
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  Speaker 1: Christoph Waltz, whom I got to know a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: is very wry and intellectual, but.
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  Speaker 5: A sense of humor.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Let's see, Christophe, says Selena maybe laugh without even trying
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: the entire time. He was so genuine and matter of fact.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm not sure when this is coming out. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's soon because they're already doing you know what
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, pupulist.
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  Speaker 2: I think the press.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they started press, so that'll be out soon.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got a couple of shows I can watch now.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: There haven't been anything for me, so I'm getting ready. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's do some birthday Sunday birthdays. Gloria Gaynor turned eighty
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  Speaker 1: two on Sunday. Julie Kavner of The Simpsons, She's March
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  Speaker 1: Simpson seventy five on Sunday. Good gosh, and she would
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  Speaker 1: hurt herself if she fell off her pile of money.
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  Speaker 1: Chrissy Hind of The Pretenders was seventy four on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Corbin Burnson, friend of the Show, turned seventy one on Sunday.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Let's see what else do we have? Leslie Jones from
• 47:42
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  Speaker 1: parts of her turn fifty six on Sunday. Oh, let's
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: see if there's anybody else Sunday.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: Probably not all right. Yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Wow, Willie Tyler, ventriloquist with his doll Lester.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Apparently they both turned eighty five yesterday. How about that?
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  Speaker 1: Will Lee, bass player from David Letterman's band, turned seventy
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  Speaker 1: three yesterday.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know who that is. I don't know who
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: that is. I don't know who that is.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: David Arcuatt turned fifty four yesterday. Brooke Burke turned fifty
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  Speaker 1: four yesterday. Jonathan Taylor Thomas from A Home Improvement turned
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  Speaker 1: fitty four, turned forty four yesterday. Wiz Khalifa, how about that?
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  Speaker 1: We hadn't heard from Wiz in a while. He turned
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight yesterday. So all right, what do we got today?
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  Speaker 2: Let's see here what we got? What a we got?
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  Speaker 1: Tom Woolpat seventy four today. Angela Carte right, my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: she played Dandy Thomas's daughter about sixty years ago or more. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: she turned seventy three today.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Sandler, No way, fifty nine?
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  Speaker 5: Is that right?
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 9: That is right.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Henry Thomas from et Is fifty four?
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Eric stone Street from Modern Family, he just got married, okay,
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  Speaker 1: fifty four. Rachel Hunter, Oh, she could act in her
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  Speaker 1: day parts of her turned fifty six today.
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  Speaker 14: Michelle Williams from Broke Back Mountain in Dawson's Creek.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, oh.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Michael Boublay he's a judge now on, it's not America's
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: got talent, I think anyway, I.
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  Speaker 2: Was like, how many American he he.
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  Speaker 5: Turns bitty today wow?
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  Speaker 1: And Christian singer Lauren Dagel thirty four today, thirty four today.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I thought you was older.
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  Speaker 1: Birthday all right, Yeah, if it's your birthday, go crazy and.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 16: And that is how the Cowboys and Packers finished the
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