Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Kent Hovind vs. Bill Nye || Intellectual SMACKDOWN
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- 0:00Once in a while I get people that really that or that claim
- 0:05they don't believe in evolution, and my response generally is a
- 0:09why not really why not? You guys believe 20 billion
- 0:14years ago there was a Big Bang where nothing exploded and
- 0:16produced everything? 4.6 billion years ago the earth
- 0:19cooled down, made a hard rocky crust, it rained on the rocks
- 0:22for millions of years, turned them into soup, and the soup
- 0:24came alive. 3 billion years ago, found somebody to marry and
- 0:30something to eat, of course, and slowly evolved into everything
- 0:32we see today. There are some lies in our
- 0:34science books. Taught it for 15 years.
- 0:37Even though I'm not teaching it anymore, I still like the study
- 0:39of so many neat things to learn. We're going to cover some of
- 0:42that tonight. I'm not against science.
- 0:43I'm not against schools. I'm not against teachers because
- 0:46most of them don't know what they believe.
- 0:47You have to tell them. They teach the kids.
- 0:49It all started with The Big Bang 20 billion years ago.
- 0:52What exploded? This is what the textbooks eat.
- 0:55Before The Big Bang, there was nothing.
- 0:59Literally nothing. An infinitesimal nugget of
- 1:03space. And then something happened,
- 1:07triggering the most colossal explosion in history.
- 1:14Yes, boys and girls, you see, nothing exploded and here we
- 1:17are. So I asked this professor if I
- 1:18could ask him some questions about The Big Bang.
- 1:20I said, where did all this matter come from?
- 1:22He said, well, we don't know that for sure.
- 1:24I said, well, Sir, would you please tell me where the laws
- 1:25came from? The universe is run by laws.
- 1:27Gravity, centrifugal force, inertia.
- 1:29Who gave the laws? He said, we don't know that
- 1:31either. I said, Sir, could you tell me
- 1:32where the energy came from? You know it takes energy to make
- 1:34a Big Bang. Who bought the gas to run this
- 1:37machine anyway? He said, we don't know that
- 1:40either. I said, Sir, could I ask you
- 1:42another question? He said, sure.
- 1:44What else would you like to know?
- 1:45What else? What do you mean else?
- 1:49He hasn't told me nothing yet. I said, does Berkeley have a
- 1:53merry go round? You see, if a spinning object
- 1:55breaks apart in a frictionless environment, the fragments will
- 1:57all spin the same direction. The professor said yes, I
- 2:00understand about the conservation of angular
- 2:02momentum. I said well good, I'd like to
- 2:04ask you a question then Sir. If the universe began as a
- 2:06swirling dodge like you said, why do 2 planets spin backwards?
- 2:14He said that's interesting. Said no, that's more than
- 2:18interesting. It's kind of hard on your Big
- 2:20Bang Theory. Not only that, six of the moons
- 2:21are spinning backwards. Why?
- 2:25He said, I don't know. Why do you think they're going
- 2:27backwards? I was hoping he was going to ask
- 2:29that. I said, OK, now Sir, hold it.
- 2:31If I told you that I believe God created the heaven and the earth
- 2:33like the Bible teaches, you're going to say, and where did God
- 2:35come from? And I don't know.
- 2:38But you said, well, we don't know that for sure.
- 2:40We don't know that either. We don't.
- 2:42Don't tell me my theory is religious and yours is science.
- 2:45Oh, no, Sir, they're both religious.
- 2:48Evolution is a religion, as you have to believe.
- 2:51So ask the professor, where did the matter come from?
- 2:53He said, I don't know. So basically, I believe in the
- 2:55beginning God, and you believe in the beginning dirt.
- 3:00One professor was getting kind of upset about this time, he
- 3:02said. Mr. Hovind, there are hundreds
- 3:05of varieties of dogs in the world, he said.
- 3:07You mean to tell me that you believe all these dogs came from
- 3:10two dogs off of Noah's Ark? You expect me to believe that?
- 3:12I said, Sir, would you look at why you're teaching your
- 3:15students? You're teaching your students
- 3:16that all the dogs in the world came from a rock.
- 3:21Charles Darwin was disciplined. I mean, he did these
- 3:26extraordinary experiments, this series of experiments, then.
- 3:29They're going to tell the kids, well, we have evidence for this
- 3:31theory. Charlie Darwin stopped off at
- 3:34these islands right there called the Galapagos Islands.
- 3:37Charlie studied the birds very carefully and said, you know
- 3:39what? I think all these birds had a
- 3:40common ancestor. I bet you're right, Charlie.
- 3:43It was a bird. You see fourteen kinds of birds,
- 3:47and you conclude that birds and bananas are related.
- 3:50Here are these ancient dinosaur bones or fossils.
- 3:54They tell the kids they have evidence of evolution from
- 3:56fossils. I don't think so.
- 3:58If you find a fossil in the dirt, all you know is it died.
- 4:02You don't know that it had any kids, and you sure don't know
- 4:04that it had different kids. You bring in a bone to the
- 4:07judge. Judge, I found this bone in the
- 4:08dirt. This is the ancestor of all the
- 4:10humans today. They would laugh at you.
- 4:13You don't know that that that's the ancestor of anybody.
- 4:16And why on earth would you think a bone in the dirt can do
- 4:17something animals today cannot do?
- 4:19They'll see boys and girls, you have two bones in your wrist,
- 4:22radius and ulna. And boys and girls look at the
- 4:24whales flipper carefully. Did you know the whale has 2
- 4:27bones in his flipper? And they're called the radius
- 4:29and the ulna, same as ours. Wow, who named them Teacher the
- 4:35whale? Think about it.
- 4:39I'm here to tell my people it's time to stop believing bull just
- 4:44cuz I tell you bull with a straight look on their face.
- 4:49Say people came from monkeys and the question is why is there
- 4:54still monkeys? Is these the retarded monkeys
- 4:58they didn't turn into people just yet?
- 5:01Even Stephen Gould admitted the absence of fossil evidence for
- 5:03intermediary stages is a persistent and nagging problem
- 5:05for evolution. See what's happened?
- 5:08These guys have looked for missing links in the in the
- 5:09fossil record. They can't find any.
- 5:11And so they say, well, maybe evolution happened so fast it
- 5:14wasn't preserved. Maybe a reptile laid egg and a
- 5:18bird hatched out. Well, who did that bird marry?
- 5:25This process that brought us to be is billions of years old.
- 5:30It happens very fast. Billions of years fast.
- 5:34Here is radioactivity we're. Going to tell the kids the late
- 5:381940s, they invented carbon dating.
- 5:40We're going to explain a little bit about radiometric dating and
- 5:43how it's supposed to work and then show you that it does not
- 5:45work. OK, it sounds good, but there
- 5:47are some assumptions that mess everything up.
- 5:49If we had walked into a room and found a candle burning on the
- 5:53table and I asked you the question, when was it lit?
- 5:58You say I don't know, Mr. Hoban, it's burning when I got here.
- 6:01OK, well, then let's do some empirical science.
- 6:03Let's measure the height of the candle.
- 6:05Suppose the candle is 7 inches tall.
- 6:07Who can tell me when it was lit? OK, nobody.
- 6:11Let's do some more empirical science.
- 6:13Let's measure the rate of burn. Suppose we determine it's
- 6:15burning an inch an hour. When was it lit?
- 6:17You're going to have a hard time telling me unless you're willing
- 6:21to make some assumptions. You find a fossil in the dirt.
- 6:25You can measure how much C-14 is in it very accurately, by the
- 6:29way, and you can measure how fast it's decaying.
- 6:33That's just like measuring the height of your candle and how
- 6:35fast it's burning. Now, when did that animal die?
- 6:38You don't have a clue. Here's what you ought to
- 6:40consider about carbon dating samples of known age.
- 6:44It doesn't work if it's a sample of unknown age.
- 6:49It is assumed to work. These it's just really hard
- 6:54thing. It's it's really a hard thing.
- 6:56Your world just becomes fantastically complicated when
- 7:00you don't believe in evolution. Freshly killed seal carbon dated
- 7:021300 years old. Shells from living snails carbon
- 7:06dated 27,000 years old. Living Penguins carbon dated
- 7:098000 years old. One part of Dima was 40,000
- 7:13years old, another part was 26,000, and the wood next to it
- 7:16is 9000. Then they tell the kids about
- 7:18the geologic column. They say each of the layers is a
- 7:21different age. You know, Cenozoic, Mesozoic,
- 7:22Paleozoic, Archaezoic, all them zoic boys.
- 7:24Now if you get a petrified tree standing up running a few
- 7:27different rock layers, I don't think it's smart to say those
- 7:30layers are vastly different ages.
- 7:32Those trees did not get slowly covered by the sediments over
- 7:36millions of years. They would rot and fall down.
- 7:41Crazy I. Just say, boys and girls, you
- 7:42have an appendix that you don't need anymore.
- 7:45That's a vestigial structure. That's proof of evolution.
- 7:47Well, excuse me, You do need your appendix.
- 7:49Appendix is part of your immune system.
- 7:51If your appendix is taken out, you can still live OK, but it
- 7:54increases your susceptibility to quite a few diseases.
- 7:58You could live without both your legs and both your arms and both
- 8:00your eyes. Also, that doesn't prove you
- 8:01don't need them. There are no vestigial organs,
- 8:05and even if there were, that would be the opposite of
- 8:07evolution. That's losing, not gaining.
- 8:11I was taught when I went to school, man used to have a tail,
- 8:13but he lost it because he didn't need it.
- 8:16I thought didn't need it. Have you ever thought how handy
- 8:19a tail would be? Have you ever come to the door
- 8:22with two sacks of groceries? Wouldn't that be a nice man be
- 8:25able to grab that door and walk right around and get in?
- 8:29Lost it because we didn't need it, man.
- 8:31You can drive the car and tune the radio knob and hold the coke
- 8:33at the same time. What we're finding is that
- 8:38natural selection seems to be an incredibly important factor in
- 8:41generating new species. Natural selection, the key
- 8:47evolutionary mechanism Darwin identified.
- 8:49The bad designs get eaten by the good ones, and so all you have
- 8:53is good ones. Why is that still?
- 8:55Monkey natural selection doesn't cause any evolution.
- 8:57It makes sure the bad ones don't survive, but it's not going to
- 9:00change it to something else. That's what evolution is.
- 9:03If you worked in a factory that produced cars and your job was
- 9:05to check for defects, and you caught every single mistake and
- 9:09you rejected it, how long would it take that process to change
- 9:13the car to an airplane? You say it'll never change it.
- 9:18That's my point. The students are taught we have
- 9:21evidence from development. Darwin considered this by far
- 9:25the strongest single class of evidence.
- 9:28This textbook says the human embryo growing in the mother has
- 9:30gills like a fish. Those little folds of skin are
- 9:33not gills. Those little wrinkles under your
- 9:35chin when you're growing up later develop into bones in the
- 9:38ear and glands in the throat. They never have anything to do
- 9:41with breathing. I've seen folks that have five
- 9:43or six chins and they can't breathe through any of them but
- 9:45the top one. Those are not gill slits.
- 9:50Ernst Hakel, though, said the turning point in his thinking
- 9:52was when he read Darwin's book. He made huge charts of his
- 9:55posters of his drawings of these embryos and travelled all over
- 9:58Germany and just about by himself converted the Germans to
- 10:01believing in evolution. Hakel took a drawing of a dog
- 10:04and a human embryo and he changed them to make them look
- 10:07exactly alike. On top are Hakel's fake
- 10:09drawings. Underneath are actual
- 10:10photographs of what he claimed he was drawing a picture of.
- 10:14Now, either he's a lousy artist or he's a liar.
- 10:18Well, it turns out he's a liar. He was convicted of fraud by his
- 10:20own university. Proven to be a fraud.
- 10:23But guess what? Haeckel's fake drawings are
- 10:26still used in textbooks in your state right now.
- 10:30It's only been proven wrong 125 years ago.
- 10:33I know it takes a while to get textbooks up to date, but that
- 10:36ought to be plenty of time. Adolf Hitler said you let me
- 10:39control the textbooks, I'll control the state.
- 10:41Watch this sentence here carefully.
- 10:43Some kids doing this for homework tonight.
- 10:45Boys and girls, do you think humans are still evolving now?
- 10:48What kind of question is that? Doesn't that question assume
- 10:51that evolution has happened? What if a kid doesn't believe in
- 10:54evolution? How's he supposed to do his
- 10:55homework tonight? That question does not teach him
- 10:57how to think critically. That teaches him what to think,
- 10:59not how to think. And when the kid gets done with
- 11:01this course, he's going to think.
- 11:02He knows how to think, but he doesn't.
- 11:04He knows how to be told what to think.
- 11:07Brainwashing at taxpayer expense.
- 11:10They want to use my tax dollars to teach that to your kids in
- 11:12our schools if you. Want to deny evolutions?
- 11:16That's fine, but don't make your kids do it because we need them.
- 11:20And that's where the problem comes in.
- 11:21OK, if you want to believe in The Big Bang, just enjoy
- 11:23yourself, but keep your religion at home.
- 11:25The Russian atheist astronomer came to America and spoke at one
- 11:27of the universities and he said started off his speech.
- 11:29He said, folks, either there is a God or there isn't.
- 11:34Both possibilities are frightening.
- 11:38If there is no God, we're in trouble.
- 11:42We're hurtling through space around the sun right now, 66,000
- 11:45miles an hour, and nobody's in charge.
- 11:51That's a scary thought. But if God made the world, he
- 11:55owns it. That means he makes the rules.
- 12:00You see, if there is a God, we better find out who he is and
- 12:04find out what he wants and do what he says, Malcolm Muggeridge
- 12:08said. I am convinced the theory of
- 12:10evolution, especially the extent to which it's been taught
- 12:12applied, will be one of the great jokes in the history books
- 12:14of the future. It's a joke, and it would be a
- 12:17joke if it weren't for the tragic results.
- 12:20How many kids are taught this thing every day and believe it
- 12:23and it destroys their faith? Find.
- 12:26You something to believe in? Well Dang, who do you even pray
- 12:29to? Nobody.
- 12:32Hey, if you died today, where would you go?
- 12:34You ought to think about it, because you will be dead for a
- 12:35long time. Doesn't matter how long you
- 12:38live, you're going to be dead longer than that.
- 12:41You know, George Washington died 200 years ago and he's still
- 12:45dead. How much longer does he have to
- 12:49go? You're going to be dead for a
- 12:53long time. All you get in this life is a
- 12:55little bitty dash between two dates, just a little treating.
- 12:59It's gone. What are you going to do with
- 13:01your dash? Where would you go if you die
- 13:04now, if you're not sure you're going to heaven, you ought to
- 13:06give your heart to the Lord and get saved.
- 13:08Say, Lord, you may have it, the whole thing.
- 13:10If you are saved, you ought to find something to do for the
- 13:12Lord, and you ought to quit worrying about getting a fancier
- 13:14car and a fancier house and start worried about who's going
- 13:16to heaven or hell. Maybe God gave you that good job
- 13:20so you can give some money to missionaries, not so you can
- 13:23build a bigger, fancier house. God loves you.
- 13:27God has a plan for your life, and if you don't want it, well,
- 13:30that's your business. But the devil is laughing at you
- 13:33for believing in that. But God loves you, and he wants
- 13:36you to come to heaven. And if you'd like to find out
- 13:38how to go to heaven, come see me.
- 13:39I'll be glad to show you. The Big Bang Before The Big
- 13:46Bang, there was nothing. Literally nothing.
- 13:51Nothing created everything. The Big Bang is an amazingly
- 13:55difficult thing to wrap your brain around, which isn't
- 13:58surprising. 13.7 billion years ago, we think it was tiny.
- 14:03Nothing, literally nothing, was tiny.
- 14:07And then something happened. Nothing created all the matter
- 14:11we see in the universe today. Nothing is more powerful than
- 14:25nothing, and that's what trips most of us up.
- 14:29It was the explosion of. Nothing.
- 14:32To believe in world getting crazy and you better believe
- 14:36something something something.