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Sharri | 18 November · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Nus E Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening. Young mother Jessica Wilson seizes the Liberal leadership
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Speaker 2: in Victoria as speculation swells over Kelly Sloane in New
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Speaker 2: South Wales. Full coverage tonight, Ray Hadley and James Patterson
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Speaker 2: will join Me Live. The ABC launches an attack on
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Speaker 2: Chris Kenny after he dared to shine a blow tootch
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Speaker 2: on their misleading edit of Donald Trump's speech and their
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Speaker 2: anti Israel bias. This is just like the scandal in
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Speaker 2: golfing the BBC more in a moment, Plus, the Commonwealth
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Speaker 2: Bank admits it's not expecting any rate cuts at all
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Speaker 2: next year. I'll show you this shock testimony. And the
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Speaker 2: Australians thrown in prison for harassing Ariana Grande. Now, as
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Speaker 2: we went to air last night, the news was breaking
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Speaker 2: that Jessica Wilson was poised to challenge Brad Batton for
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Speaker 2: the leadership of the Liberal Party in Victoria, and today
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Speaker 2: she succeeded. Baton lost the spill nineteen votes to thirteen
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Speaker 2: and then chose not to recontest the leadership, knowing he
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Speaker 2: simply didn't have the numbers. And here she was making
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Speaker 2: history as the first woman to lead the Victorian Liberal Party.
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Speaker 3: At the next election twelve months from now. Victorians have
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Speaker 3: a clear choice, a choice between a tired, out of
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Speaker 3: touch Labor government or a new generation Liberal team. And
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Speaker 3: as leader, I have a clear focus. I have clear priorities.
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Speaker 3: One to get the budget back into control so we
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Speaker 3: can invest in things that matter. Two to end the
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Speaker 3: crime crisis. Three to make sure that Victorians can get
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Speaker 3: access to the healthcare that they need and deserve. And
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Speaker 3: four to give every Victorian the best opportunity to own
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Speaker 3: their own home in this state. They are my priorities,
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Speaker 3: they are my team's clear priorities.
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Speaker 2: That's a clear agenda. It's exactly the kind of message
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Speaker 2: the federal Liberal Party should be delivering, strong positions on
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Speaker 2: key policy areas backed by relentless campaigning. Yet it's precisely
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Speaker 2: what the federal Libs are failing to do well now.
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Speaker 2: Jessica Wilson faces an immense challenge calling back sixteen to
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Speaker 2: seventeen seats to win majority government, but it shouldn't be
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Speaker 2: such an uphill battle. Victoria is presiding over the worst
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Speaker 2: performing state government in Australia since the COVID pandemic. Victorian
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Speaker 2: Labor has been exposed for its perpetual wrecking of the economy.
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Speaker 2: Victoria's net debt is twenty one percent of gross state product,
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Speaker 2: almost double that of New South Wales, which is at
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Speaker 2: eleven point four percent. The crime crisis also dominates national
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Speaker 2: headlines as families are targeted in their own homes and
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Speaker 2: criminals are routinely bailed and then allowed to reoffend. The
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Speaker 2: Allen government's hostility towards business is also part of the
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Speaker 2: state's decline. Its proposed laws forcing employers to allow to
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Speaker 2: mandatory work from home days is the latest heavy handed intervention.
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Speaker 2: It imposes government in the business arena, it punishes productivity
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Speaker 2: and stifles growth. And then there's the ideological woke gender
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Speaker 2: agenda that's even filtering into kindergarten. And of course the
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Speaker 2: counseled Commonwealth Games fiasco, a debacle that costs taxpayers five
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty nine million dollars. It's a woful record.
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Speaker 2: But the problem is simply this, There hasn't been a
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Speaker 2: credible alternative. There hasn't been a strong enough proposition to
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Speaker 2: convince voters to support the Liberals. Now, John Persuto was
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Speaker 2: never going to win. Brad Baden was making headway yet
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Speaker 2: just sent to Alan was still on track to win
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Speaker 2: next year's election, and Jessica Wilson is now the party's
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Speaker 2: final hope.
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Speaker 3: The Liberal party room today said it was time for
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Speaker 3: a new direction, and as I said, I'm humbled that
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Speaker 3: they elected me leader. We are united and we are
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Speaker 3: focused on one single thing that in twelve months time, Victorians.
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Speaker 4: Have a choice.
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Speaker 3: They have a choice of sixteen years of a tired government,
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Speaker 3: a government that has its priorities all wrong, and us
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Speaker 3: a new team that has hope in Victoria and wants
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Speaker 3: to focus on the core issues that I'm actually going
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Speaker 3: to deliver for Victorians.
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Speaker 2: Will the Liberals have twelve months unite behind her and
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Speaker 2: to fight to seize government. That's if they can finally
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Speaker 2: put their internal warfare aside. Former Treasurer Josh Friedenberg weighed
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Speaker 2: in today congratulating and endorsing Wilson. He said jess is smart, sensible,
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Speaker 2: and determined and has what it takes to lead the
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Speaker 2: state and create a better future for all Victorians. He says,
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Speaker 2: I've seen firsthand her ability to get across complex policy
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Speaker 2: and to communicate ideas effectively and with empathy. She has
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Speaker 2: at all times reflected the very best values. Wilson worked
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Speaker 2: as his former advisor. She's a lawyer and she's worked
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Speaker 2: at the Business Council of Australia and a Shadow treasurer.
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Speaker 2: She's already shown she can engage credibly with business, which
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Speaker 2: the state desperately needs. Now. If she succeeds, and it
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Speaker 2: is a big if, it would mirror Jacinta Arderne's shock
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Speaker 2: victory in New Zealand. A young, energetic leader capturing a
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Speaker 2: frustrated electorate at just thirty five, Wilson brings generational appeal
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Speaker 2: and as a new mum with a fifteen month old son,
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Speaker 2: she presents a relatable modern image of political leadership. Yet
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Speaker 2: the challenge is immense. As I said, she needs to
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Speaker 2: win seventeen seats to govern in a majority now. This
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Speaker 2: has only been done once before, when Steve Bracks won
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Speaker 2: twenty seats in two thousand and two, and the Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party also needs to win the trust of Australians and
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Speaker 2: prove that it's still a party capable of unity, discipline
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Speaker 2: and serious policy. With one year until the election, Wilson
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Speaker 2: and her team must now unleash a ruthless, disciplined and
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Speaker 2: unflinching campaign to defeat the truly dreadful Allan government. Now,
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Speaker 2: over the past week, Chris Kenny has been unrelenting as
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Speaker 2: he exposed the ABC for editing footage of Donald Trump's
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Speaker 2: speech in a strikingly similar fashion to the scandal that
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Speaker 2: engulfed the BBC. At the BBC heads have rolled at
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Speaker 2: the ABC, they insist there's nothing to see. In fact,
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Speaker 2: Media Watch devoted its entire program last night to mount
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Speaker 2: a case that the broadcaster was impartial, and they turned
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Speaker 2: its attack on Kenny for daring to challenge the integrity
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Speaker 2: of their coverage on Trump, on Israel and on transgender issues.
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Speaker 2: They effectively absolved themselves, declaring there's no serious problem of
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Speaker 2: bias at the public broadcaster.
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Speaker 5: After the usual critics used the BBC blow up to
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Speaker 5: turn their blow torches on the ABC. We at Media
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Speaker 5: Watch have not been able to forensically examine the entire
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Speaker 5: output of the organization on these three very big and
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Speaker 5: very tricky areas of reporting. But notwithstanding the gaps in
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Speaker 5: transgender coverage, from what we found, there was nothing which
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Speaker 5: might suggest, as The Australian did, that resignations might be
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Speaker 5: called for it The ABC not even close. Rather, it
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Speaker 5: seems this was a naked attempt to draw the ABC
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Speaker 5: into a public broadcasting crisis seventeen thousand kilometers away, which
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Speaker 5: smeared without foundation. Some of the ABC's finest reporting.
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Speaker 2: Smeared without foundation. Well. This is despite Chris Kenny showing
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Speaker 2: how the ABC in two separate programs misleadingly edited Trump's
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Speaker 2: speech to make it appear as though he was encouraging
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Speaker 2: rioters to storm the Capitol.
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Speaker 6: And after this, we're going to walk down and I'll
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Speaker 6: be there with you. Because you'll never take back our
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Speaker 6: country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you
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Speaker 6: have to be strong.
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Speaker 2: The misleading edits are irrefutable. They emit the same section
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Speaker 2: as the BBC where Trump says he wants supporters to
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Speaker 2: go to the Capitol to cheer on senators and media watchers.
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Speaker 2: Defense collapses even further when set against all that we've
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Speaker 2: witnessed over the past two years. The ABC's egregious anti
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Speaker 2: Israel bias, host Linton Bessa was forced to concede that
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Speaker 2: ABC Television News aired the false claim that fourteen thousand
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Speaker 2: guars and babies would die of starvation within forty eight hours. Now,
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Speaker 2: the ABC Aird that even after the statement had already
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Speaker 2: been proven wrong. Besser icknowledge additional failures as well.
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Speaker 5: In fact, in twenty twenty three, a music program on
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Speaker 5: Triple J was indeed pinged for failing the ABC standard
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Speaker 5: on impartiality, and the ABC News division has been found
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Speaker 5: to have made serious errors, such as not reporting important
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Speaker 5: context about the firing of Kamas Rockets.
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Speaker 2: Yet despite all of this, Bessa largely cleared the ABC
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Speaker 2: of anti Israel bias. He pointed to the fact the
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Speaker 2: ABC's independent ombardsman had not identified a single breach of
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Speaker 2: the broadcaster's impartiality obligations. But this reflects far more on
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Speaker 2: the ombardsmen than it does on the ABC, because over
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Speaker 2: the past two years, the ABC's coverage of Israel's fight
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Speaker 2: for its own survival against bloodthirsty terrorists has been anything
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Speaker 2: but impartial, and as I've spoken about many times before,
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Speaker 2: the ABC's one sided and constantly critical coverage of the
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Speaker 2: only Jewish state in the world has played a role
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Speaker 2: in fueling the rise in antisemitism here in Australia. The
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Speaker 2: ABC routinely amplifies anti Israel narratives and allows prohomus talking
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Speaker 2: points to air unchallenged. The hostility has been so pervasive
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Speaker 2: and the neglect of the antisemitism crisis so profound that
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Speaker 2: Jewish employees like in Lan Zettlin felt compelled to leave
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Speaker 2: the organization entirely. Now. The ABC claims to be trusted, objective,
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Speaker 2: and unbiased, yet it's none of those things. It often
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Speaker 2: suppresses lines of inquiry that don't suit its political narrative,
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Speaker 2: like dubbing an investigation into the origins of COVID nineteen
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Speaker 2: in Wuhan a conspiracy. Its green left worldview is unmistakable
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Speaker 2: in the stories it selects, the guests it elevates, and
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Speaker 2: the rigor or leniency applied to political interviews. Viewers know this,
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Speaker 2: politicians know this. Yet the ABC is so blinkered by
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Speaker 2: its own self importance, so blinded by its own bias,
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Speaker 2: that it refuses to recognize the truth. Its lack of
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Speaker 2: objectivity required by its own charter is obvious. A no
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Speaker 2: fifteen minute defense on media Watch can erase its record
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Speaker 2: of partiality and distortion on many issues, but none worse
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Speaker 2: than vilifying support for Israel. This has only aggravated the
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Speaker 2: social cohesion crisis we've experienced over the past two Years's
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Speaker 2: return now to Jessica Wilson becoming Victoria's new Liberal leader today.
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Speaker 2: Here she was earlier in question time already ramping up
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Speaker 2: pressure on the premiere.
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Speaker 3: Between now and the end of question time, the Labor
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Speaker 3: Government's debt will have increased by two million dollars. Premier,
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Speaker 3: is this debt increased sustainable? We are the only state government,
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Speaker 3: federal or state to be forecasting an operating surplus, an
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Speaker 3: operating service and relevance.
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Speaker 7: This was a very very direct question, and a minute
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Speaker 7: into the answer, the Premier hasn't even dealt with the
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Speaker 7: substance of the question.
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Speaker 4: There is no point of order.
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Speaker 8: The Premier is being entirely relevant to the question that
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Speaker 8: was asked of her, and I asked that you rule
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Speaker 8: the point of order out of order order.
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Speaker 2: The Premier was being relevant to the question.
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Speaker 4: Premier to continue, Well.
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Speaker 2: I'm joined now live by federal shadow Finance Minister James Patterson,
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Speaker 2: who's been a long start and friend of jess Wilson.
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Speaker 2: Good to see you again, James. Look. Critics today have
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Speaker 2: said that Brad Baton was cutting through on crime and
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Speaker 2: that he even had just sent to Alan on the
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Speaker 2: back foot, So why make this change now?
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Speaker 7: Well, Charry Batten is a good man, he's a good Victorian,
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Speaker 7: he's a good Liberal, and on his worst professional day
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Speaker 7: in his life, he behaved with real class and real
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Speaker 7: dignity today and I want to pay tribute to him
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Speaker 7: for that, and for the good job that he's done
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Speaker 7: in holding this government to account on their appalling crime
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Speaker 7: crisis that's made Victorians feel unsafe in their homes. But
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Speaker 7: the State Parliamentary Party, who know their colleagues best, felt
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Speaker 7: that a change was necessary to make sure that the
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Speaker 7: Victorian Liberals can compete and win at the next state election,
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Speaker 7: because if they lost the next state election, that would
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Speaker 7: mean sixteen years of labor, sixteen years of Daniel Andrews
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Speaker 7: and Justina Allen. Victoria is a great state, but it's
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Speaker 7: suffered deeply under this government and I really worry what
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Speaker 7: would be left of it if that happened, James.
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Speaker 2: Some point to fresh Water polling and it says Brad
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Speaker 2: Batton was ahead. They point to that polling as a
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Speaker 2: reason not to switch leaders now. But do you trust
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Speaker 2: this polling because the same company, Freshwater also had Peter
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Speaker 2: Darton ahead when he, as we know, suffered one of
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Speaker 2: the most crushing Liberal defeats in history, we'll show.
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Speaker 7: I think everybody knows about the deficiencies of the polling
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Speaker 7: that was done for the Federal Liberal Party at the
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Speaker 7: last election, and all polling should be taken with a
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Speaker 7: grain of salt. No polster was perfect, and we should
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Speaker 7: treat it as a snapshot in time and consider the
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Speaker 7: broader research picture, not just any one poll on any
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Speaker 7: one day. More important than that though, the economic statistics
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Speaker 7: facing Australia and Victoria in particular. Victoria will rack up
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Speaker 7: two hundred billion dollars of debt on justinto Allen's watch.
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Speaker 7: The businesses are fleeing, investment is fleeing, people are fleeing,
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Speaker 7: and young Victorians have lost hope for their future in
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Speaker 7: Victoria and we need to restore that sense of hope
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Speaker 7: and I think Jess Wilson is the right person to
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Speaker 7: do that. I think as a young person, as someone
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Speaker 7: with a really strong economic policy background, she's the person
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Speaker 7: who can turn the state around. She's the person who
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Speaker 7: can turn the state budget around, and she's the person
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Speaker 7: who can give us the best shot of winning the
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Speaker 7: next election.
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Speaker 2: She's clearly very impressive, very smart, very confident and articulate.
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Speaker 2: She is young though thirty five. This is her first
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Speaker 2: term in parliament. Do you think she has enough experienced
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Speaker 2: politically even in campaigning to win at the next election,
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Speaker 2: given how well oiled the labor machine is?
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Speaker 7: Well, Shari, I was first elected department when I was
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Speaker 7: twenty eight, and I'm still only thirty seven, so I'm
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Speaker 7: certainly not going to criticize other young people for putting
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Speaker 7: up their hand. And I don't think Jess is an
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Speaker 7: ordinary politician. I think she's a rare political talent, and
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Speaker 7: that's reflected in the fact that her colleagues have elected
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Speaker 7: her unanimously to lead the Victorian Liberal Party today. They
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Speaker 7: didn't do that lightly. They did it because they know
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Speaker 7: her well, because they trust her, because they have confidence
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Speaker 7: in her, and they know she's the best chance to
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Speaker 7: save Victoria from sixteen years of labor the terrible economic
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Speaker 7: disaster that that would entail.
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Speaker 2: All Right, just moving on to some other topics in
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Speaker 2: your own portfolio area of finance, This was just quite
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Speaker 2: shocking comments from the Commonwealth Bank's Chief executive Matt Comb
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Speaker 2: in today. He says there won't be any rate cuts.
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Speaker 2: This is in his opinion, there won't be any interest
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Speaker 2: rate cuts in the Foreseabille future, and he says nine
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six is blaming higher than expected inflation.
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Speaker 7: Have a look to answer your question directly. No, I
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Speaker 7: don't think our reduction in the cash raders is likely
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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 2: I mean, James, that is quite confronting for homeowners to
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Speaker 2: hear that.
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Speaker 7: It's terribly discouraging news to have one of our major
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Speaker 7: banks predict no more interest rate relief at least for
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Speaker 7: the next year. But unfortunately, I think Matt Common knows
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Speaker 7: what he's talking about, and the Reserve Bank Governor Michelle
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Speaker 7: Bullock has said similar things. This is Jim Chalmer's responsibility.
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Speaker 7: He took responsibility when interest rates were coming down and
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Speaker 7: when inflation was coming down. Our inflation is rising again
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Speaker 7: and it looks like interest rates are not going to
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Speaker 7: come down. He should take responsibility for that.
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Speaker 1: Because the average.
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Speaker 7: Mortgage holder is about twenty thousand dollars worse off every
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Speaker 7: year under labor because of the rate rises that have
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Speaker 7: happened on their watch, and many of them were looking
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Speaker 7: forward to a lot more interest rate relief than they
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Speaker 7: might now actually have.
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Speaker 2: We've seen today Turkey blast Australia's bid to host the
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Speaker 2: COP thirty one thirty two Climate in Australia. Now Chris
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Speaker 2: Bowen slams this. He says, Australia is determined to win
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Speaker 2: the bid. But one of the issues with this, James,
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Speaker 2: is that this could cost tax phase between one and
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Speaker 2: two billion dollars. We don't know exactly how much because
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Speaker 2: we have seen no transparency over the cost. Have a
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Speaker 2: look at this.
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Speaker 9: I'm not going to comment on the costs of a
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Speaker 9: conference that we haven't got.
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Speaker 2: We haven't won the bid for yet.
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Speaker 7: Commentaries commentary, you know, people plucking figures from.
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Speaker 2: Who should there be more transparency over? I mean, such
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Speaker 2: an exorbitant cost to host a climate conference.
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Speaker 7: So we had a twelve billion dollar deficit last financial year,
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Speaker 7: where forecast have a forty two billion dollar deficit this
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Speaker 7: financial year. Two billion dollars on a climate conference would
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Speaker 7: be in a scene waste of Australian taxpayers money. Think
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Speaker 7: about all the other things that could be done with that.
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Speaker 7: Think about the schools and hospitals and police stations that
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Speaker 7: could be paid for with that money. Frankly, if Turkey
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Speaker 7: doesn't withdraw their bid and this ends up going back
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Speaker 7: to the German city of Bond instead. Then Jim Charmers
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Speaker 7: and Kata Gallagher should write a letter of thank you
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Speaker 7: to the Turkish government and President Erduwan for saving Australian
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Speaker 7: taxpayers two billion dollars.
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Speaker 2: Just what about the broader point of Australia pitching for
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Speaker 2: this conference when it seems like we are actually out
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Speaker 2: of step now with many parts of the world. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Tony Blair and Bill Gates have changed their tune, the
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Speaker 2: US has withdrawn from Paris. You know, do you think
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Speaker 2: we should still be part of these conferences?
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Speaker 7: Well, I've got no problem going to these conferences and
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Speaker 7: representing our national interests there, but I don't see the
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Speaker 7: merit in hosting it in Australia, particularly at such great expense.
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Speaker 7: I mean, Kis Starmer, I think put it best at
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Speaker 7: the current COP conference in Brazil last week, where he
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Speaker 7: said the global consensus for emissions reduction has broken down
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Speaker 7: in the last few years and we are not on
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Speaker 7: track to come anywhere near close to achieving net zero
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Speaker 7: by twenty fifty globally, nor in Australia. The only way
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Speaker 7: to achieve that would be to do huge damage to
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Speaker 7: our economy. Australia's actually reduced our emissions far more than
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Speaker 7: the developed world. We've reduced them by twenty eight percent
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Speaker 7: over the last twenty years, compared to sixteen percent in
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Speaker 7: the OACD the world's advanced economies. So we're doing our
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Speaker 7: fair share. We should continue to do our fair share,
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Speaker 7: but not at the cost of affordable, reliable energy for Australians.
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Speaker 2: Just finally, we saw our front page news yesterday, both
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Speaker 2: first in the Daily Mail then in The Australia that
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Speaker 2: there are small number of moderates who are saying they'd
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Speaker 2: be prepared to support Andrew Hasty leader as leader of
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Speaker 2: the party. Some have even suggested a Tim Wilson Andrew
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Speaker 2: Hasty ticket where Wilson would be the deputy. Is this
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Speaker 2: being mooted? I don't know.
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Speaker 7: No colleague has raised that with me or propose that
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Speaker 7: to me. I support Susan Lee as our leader, and
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Speaker 7: I'm working hard to make her leadership a success because
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Speaker 7: I think it's in the Liberal Party's interest that she succeeded.
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Speaker 7: I think it's in the Liberal Party's interest that she
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Speaker 7: and Danteen are given the opportunity to prosecute what is
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Speaker 7: now a very strong contrast with the government's disastrous failure
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Speaker 7: on energy policy and our strong position of dumping net zero.
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Speaker 7: This the government that's presided over a forty percent increase
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Speaker 7: in electricity bills and a forty percent increase in gas
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Speaker 7: bills for households. We can't keep going on like this.
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Speaker 7: But the Liberal Party has the answers to those problems.
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Speaker 7: I think Susan and Dan and the team need to
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Speaker 7: be given the opportunity to sell that message.
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Speaker 2: Right, James Pattison really appreciate you joining us tonight. Thank
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Speaker 2: you so much. All Right, well, let's stick with that topic,
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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party leadership federally and joining me now Daily
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Speaker 2: Telegraph journalist James Willis and former Liberal Senator Holly Hughes.
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Speaker 2: And not just former Liberal Senator Holly. But you've dropped
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Speaker 2: a bit of a bombshell today because you have quit
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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party. And it's precisely you're saying for this
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Speaker 2: reason that you see there's been a shocking undermining of
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee's leadership. Tell me about this.
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Speaker 8: Look, absolutely there has been, and you know, there's a
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Speaker 8: number of factors that have led up to today and
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Speaker 8: the last two days. I've been at a Symposium for
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Speaker 8: Profound Autism, where not one Labor liberal, state, federal Upper
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Speaker 8: or lower House MP or senator or anybody could even
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Speaker 8: bother to turn up support these families, which with some
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Speaker 8: of the work, I was so proud of the advocacy
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Speaker 8: that I did for these really, really really families that
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Speaker 8: have a really big challenge ahead of themselves all the time,
22:48
Speaker 8: and I just really demonstrated to me that these families
22:51
Speaker 8: aren't being heard, nor do the current croper politicians on.
22:54
Speaker 4: Any side actually really care.
22:57
Speaker 8: So I want to be able to keep advocating for
22:58
Speaker 8: them and saying whatever I want to say about that,
23:01
Speaker 8: and if Labor does something good or the Liberals finally
23:04
Speaker 8: get a policy, I want to be able to talk
23:05
Speaker 8: about that freely. I don't support the parliamentarians that leave,
23:10
Speaker 8: stay in the party and then snipe from the sidelines.
23:12
Speaker 8: I do a lot of commentary now, and you know,
23:15
Speaker 8: I didn't join the party until after I was no
23:18
Speaker 8: longer a journalist in any shape or form, and I
23:20
Speaker 8: don't think journalist should be members of parties, and I'm
23:22
Speaker 8: not quite sure commentators should be either, So that was
23:25
Speaker 8: sort of part of the reasoning I support Susan. There's
23:27
Speaker 8: two ways I can support her. I can publicly advocate
23:29
Speaker 8: for what she does and support her. And the second
23:32
Speaker 8: thing that I could do was vote from the party room.
23:34
Speaker 8: And I can no longer do that anymore. But there
23:37
Speaker 8: are people that are constantly undermining her, and I spent
23:39
Speaker 8: six years in a party room with them. Some of
23:41
Speaker 8: them I have known for decades, and I know who
23:44
Speaker 8: is lazy, I know who is inept, I know who
23:46
Speaker 8: is not terribly bright, and I felt it was hypocritical
23:49
Speaker 8: to stay in the party when I am now in
23:51
Speaker 8: a position where I can call out their behavior.
23:54
Speaker 2: And who do you think is undermining her?
23:56
Speaker 8: Well, I think we all know who's undermining her. And
23:58
Speaker 8: I think all you've got to do is look at
23:59
Speaker 8: that big wing block that wandered down the corridor together
24:02
Speaker 8: as they push the women up the front, one you've
24:04
Speaker 8: never heard of, and are quite frankly just Sinter and Sarah,
24:07
Speaker 8: I think are being used by the two men that
24:09
Speaker 8: want to push forward with their their challenge but don't
24:12
Speaker 8: have the gumption to do it.
24:14
Speaker 10: I think that's really looking Holly. I'm not talking about
24:16
Speaker 10: your circumstances. I think that's really unfair on Sarah Henderson
24:20
Speaker 10: and just enter price. I don't think they're being used.
24:22
Speaker 10: I think they're smart enough to realize that they've got
24:24
Speaker 10: a place in the party room. I think they have
24:27
Speaker 10: a lot of cut through in the media. And I
24:29
Speaker 10: also think that some of the undermining against Susan is
24:32
Speaker 10: coming from the left of the party as well, the
24:35
Speaker 10: same people that on the weekend, as soon as the
24:37
Speaker 10: net zero decision was scrapped, there was moderate saying, how
24:40
Speaker 10: dare you consider backing Cole. We didn't agree to this.
24:43
Speaker 10: That story was leaked within hours, So to suggest this
24:46
Speaker 10: is just the right that are undermining really Susan correct, Yeah,
24:49
Speaker 10: And I mean, look, I'm sorry, but politics is a
24:52
Speaker 10: tough game.
24:53
Speaker 8: It is a tough gume and I played it as
24:54
Speaker 8: tough as anybody else.
24:55
Speaker 10: You know then that the polls, the polls indicate these things,
24:58
Speaker 10: and the polls are terrible.
24:59
Speaker 4: So I've she had an old clock today news.
25:01
Speaker 10: Polls role leaders, they've role prime ministers, and unfortunately with Susan,
25:05
Speaker 10: if it continues this way, she could have everyone behind her.
25:08
Speaker 10: But if the polls indicate the way that they are,
25:10
Speaker 10: she is in trouble.
25:11
Speaker 4: We're two and a half years from an election.
25:12
Speaker 8: Quite Frankly, any of these people that want to challenge her,
25:16
Speaker 8: I don't think have the constitution or the.
25:18
Speaker 4: Metal to have put up what Susan's put up with.
25:20
Speaker 8: For the past six months, since she's taken the leadership,
25:22
Speaker 8: every single member of that party room has had their
25:24
Speaker 8: say on net zero. She has consulted widely, She has
25:27
Speaker 8: worked hard. I can promise you some of those want
25:30
Speaker 8: to be leader. If they were on a show like
25:32
Speaker 8: your Shari, and you put to them, why is it
25:34
Speaker 8: taking so long you need a policy, half of them
25:37
Speaker 8: would have made it up. I bet you bottom dollar
25:39
Speaker 8: they would have made something up on the run, not
25:41
Speaker 8: gone to the party room.
25:42
Speaker 4: She held her metal.
25:43
Speaker 8: She's consulted widely with everyone. She's come up with a policy,
25:47
Speaker 8: and she's absolutely shown strength that I don't think a
25:49
Speaker 8: lot of these other aspirants have. And I want to
25:52
Speaker 8: be able to say that without being a hypocritsis member
25:55
Speaker 8: of the party.
25:55
Speaker 10: But don't mix that in, Sorry, Shari with your and
25:58
Speaker 10: I realized the history here, but the anger towards the
26:01
Speaker 10: right is unfair.
26:02
Speaker 2: You know, No, no, I'm sorry.
26:04
Speaker 4: Let me tell you what.
26:05
Speaker 8: I also got a phone call from a colleague today,
26:07
Speaker 8: So here's some breaking news for you that maybe they
26:09
Speaker 8: don't want you to know. Some of these moderates that
26:12
Speaker 8: are out there apparently supporting Hasty. You know why they've
26:15
Speaker 8: said that, because let's get his leadership over and done
26:18
Speaker 8: with and we can put a mod back in before
26:20
Speaker 8: the next election. Who do you think that's going to
26:22
Speaker 8: be benefiting. That's the phone call from a colleague I
26:25
Speaker 8: got today. This is the machinations that are going on.
26:28
Speaker 8: It is absolutely pathetic that they have not supported Susan
26:31
Speaker 8: from day one, and there's a whole lot of aspirants
26:34
Speaker 8: and a whole lot of people with more ambition than conviction,
26:37
Speaker 8: and all of those people. I decided it pushed me
26:41
Speaker 8: over the edge over the autism stuff today and thought
26:43
Speaker 8: that's it.
26:44
Speaker 4: I am done.
26:45
Speaker 8: I need some clean air, but I am finished with
26:48
Speaker 8: protecting some of the behavior of those in the liberty.
26:50
Speaker 10: I think there's some leaders in the party, and I
26:52
Speaker 10: think there's some leaders and some candidates and some potential leaders,
26:55
Speaker 10: and one of them should be moved in next year.
26:57
Speaker 10: I don't think Susan can stay for much longer, and
26:59
Speaker 10: I think the.
27:00
Speaker 4: Polls there could be two before the election.
27:01
Speaker 10: The driver of leaders they've rolled Prime Minister's Malcolm turn
27:06
Speaker 10: will rolled Tony Abbott based on what twenty five or
27:09
Speaker 10: thirty news polls. If it continues, that's it.
27:11
Speaker 2: Two and a half.
27:12
Speaker 1: Yet you can have the whole party runs.
27:14
Speaker 2: I think the Liberal Party's polls have gone down from
27:17
Speaker 2: around thirty one percent at the federal election to now
27:19
Speaker 2: some twenty four percent. That is unsustainable. They will have
27:23
Speaker 2: to make a change next year if the polls stay there.
27:25
Speaker 8: But they've made a decision on net zero. They're starting
27:28
Speaker 8: to do the work on immigration, all right, and let
27:29
Speaker 8: me dot a you. When you saw Dan Team being
27:31
Speaker 8: interviewed on net zero, you lost the will to live.
27:33
Speaker 8: And then you saw Susan go sell a message and
27:35
Speaker 8: that's exactly who we.
27:36
Speaker 2: Need put him in that position. So they needed someone
27:39
Speaker 2: else because it's in the campaign.
27:41
Speaker 8: I'd love to see Canavan back on the front bench,
27:43
Speaker 8: but he decided to stay on the back bench so
27:45
Speaker 8: he can speak for you.
27:46
Speaker 2: Right, Let's let's move on to other topics. Big story
27:49
Speaker 2: today that the United Nations Security Council has approved Donald
27:54
Speaker 2: Trump's gars A peace plan. Now. Trump has called this
27:58
Speaker 2: decision by the UN a moment of true historic proportion.
28:01
Speaker 2: He says congratulations to the world in classic understated fashion. Now, James,
28:08
Speaker 2: this is a huge win for Trump's Middle East plan,
28:10
Speaker 2: but it also shows how the United Nations played no
28:14
Speaker 2: leading role in this. But thankfully they've at least endorsed
28:18
Speaker 2: Trump's vision.
28:19
Speaker 10: Well, that's right, And this war began more than two
28:22
Speaker 10: years ago when Hamas committed the atrocity on Israel, the
28:25
Speaker 10: atrocious terror attack under Joe Biden. Donald Trump has come
28:29
Speaker 10: along two months ago with a peace plan, and the
28:32
Speaker 10: UN said, oh, this is a good idea. We might
28:34
Speaker 10: just give this a go. Isn't that what the UN's
28:36
Speaker 10: meant to be here for. I mean, they have all
28:38
Speaker 10: these little committees that you condemn people and warn people
28:42
Speaker 10: and say a lot of things, but don't do too much.
28:44
Speaker 10: Trump comes along with his plan and the UN goes, yeah,
28:46
Speaker 10: we'll go for it. I mean, it shows once and
28:48
Speaker 10: for all how irrelevant they really are in terms of
28:50
Speaker 10: world politics.
28:51
Speaker 2: Absolutely couldn't agree more. They've done nothing to solve the
28:55
Speaker 2: walls and the conflicts. They've only made everything worse. And
28:57
Speaker 2: he's actually shown some leadership.
28:59
Speaker 10: And then obviously the question is in regards to Palestinian
29:02
Speaker 10: statehood as well. And I know Benjamina, who is totally
29:06
Speaker 10: opposed to that. But there obviously is going to be
29:09
Speaker 10: that discussion. And unfortunately we have been in similar circumstances
29:13
Speaker 10: here before. Have we not only for a deal to
29:17
Speaker 10: fall through at the.
29:18
Speaker 2: Well the Palestinians have walked away on every occasion. Clinton
29:21
Speaker 2: came very close at Camp David and yas Arafat.
29:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, walked away.
29:25
Speaker 2: Ultimately, A long way to go, very long way to go.
29:27
Speaker 2: All right, Another fascinating story today, This in the finn Review,
29:31
Speaker 2: more evidence that Labour's five percent house deposit scheme is
29:36
Speaker 2: actually pushing up house prices. The values of homes captured
29:40
Speaker 2: by the government's scheme rose, according to these analysts, by
29:45
Speaker 2: one point two percent across the country compared with one
29:49
Speaker 2: percent of other properties. So Holly, this is actually the
29:53
Speaker 2: Labor government scheme is pushing up house prizes, house prices
29:57
Speaker 2: for first home bias is anything the opposite of anyone else.
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Speaker 8: Get the feeling this is pre subprime market or all
30:03
Speaker 8: over again. I mean, the US went through a massive
30:06
Speaker 8: property crash because of the subprime loarning market, and this
30:10
Speaker 8: is exactly the policy that this Labor government's now put
30:13
Speaker 8: in place. I think it's really dangerous for a lot
30:15
Speaker 8: of these families that or young couples that now think
30:18
Speaker 8: that they can enter their market with a five percent deposit.
30:21
Speaker 4: Who if we're seeing nor.
30:24
Speaker 8: Decreases to interest rates and potentially increases, they may find
30:28
Speaker 8: themselves very much over extended, which will have really long
30:31
Speaker 8: and serious ramifications on the property market.
30:34
Speaker 4: But again it's labor failure make it harder.
30:37
Speaker 10: The only way to get us out of this crisis
30:39
Speaker 10: is to improve living standards amongst azzies, which have fallen
30:42
Speaker 10: by ten thousand dollars per person over the last few years,
30:45
Speaker 10: which means people can save the money needed for a house.
30:48
Speaker 10: We also need to obviously improve supply. There's been a
30:51
Speaker 10: huge debate at the moment about migration and I agree
30:53
Speaker 10: with what Matt Common said today and also a state
30:57
Speaker 10: based stamp duty.
30:58
Speaker 2: Stamp duty has.
30:58
Speaker 1: To be lived as well as the killer you know.
31:01
Speaker 10: Of course, a five percent deposit scheme is going to
31:04
Speaker 10: increase prices.
31:05
Speaker 1: Of course it was going to do.
31:06
Speaker 8: John o'duniham did a great interview today. We're going to
31:08
Speaker 8: talk about good strong liberals. John o'duniham did a fantastic
31:11
Speaker 8: interview today where he talked about immigration and it actually
31:14
Speaker 8: being not just some random number pulled out, but looking
31:16
Speaker 8: at where people need to go, where houses need to
31:18
Speaker 8: be built, where infrastructure needs to be built, what our
31:20
Speaker 8: schools can.
31:21
Speaker 4: Cope with, what our hospitals can cope with.
31:23
Speaker 8: And hopefully John Ore now in that portfolio, is going
31:25
Speaker 8: to do a great job and get the immigration debate
31:27
Speaker 8: to the full And that.
31:28
Speaker 2: Is an extravate. Just before we go, I mentioned this
31:30
Speaker 2: at the start of the show. Now the footage of
31:33
Speaker 2: actress Ariana Grande being accosted in a way or some
31:38
Speaker 2: fan putting his arm around her at the premiere of
31:41
Speaker 2: Wicked for Good in Singapore. Now this has gone viral.
31:43
Speaker 2: It turns out the man who did that is Australian
31:47
Speaker 2: and he's been jailed for nine days. This was the
31:50
Speaker 2: viral footage. I mean, I didn't realize this guy's Australian.
32:05
Speaker 2: He's been jailed for it, although what he did wasn't
32:07
Speaker 2: that bad really, No.
32:08
Speaker 10: I think the bigger issue is the lack of security.
32:11
Speaker 10: And it's funny we saw the rugular leg there's this
32:13
Speaker 10: sporting serial pest that's done this global events. I mean,
32:16
Speaker 10: in twenty twenty five, how does someone get that close
32:19
Speaker 10: to Ariana Grande. I don't understand that.
32:21
Speaker 8: When Singapore you can go to jail for spitting out
32:23
Speaker 8: your chewing gum. I'm surprised you only got nine days.
32:25
Speaker 2: It's true he could have well, a tougher sentence was available,
32:29
Speaker 2: but they didn't give it to it right, Hollyhos, thank you.
32:31
Speaker 2: It's great to see him still to calm. Albanize's greatest critic,
32:36
Speaker 2: Cameron Milner says Josh Fridenberg needs to come back and
32:39
Speaker 2: take him on. Cameron's on the show later. Plus, I'll
32:42
Speaker 2: get Ray Hadley's take on Media Watcher's egregious claim that
32:46
Speaker 2: the ABC is mostly balanced. Raise up here after this
32:50
Speaker 2: quick break welcome back. As I spoke about earlier in
33:00
Speaker 2: the show, the ABC has been exposed by Chris Kenny
33:04
Speaker 2: and The Australian for its misleading edit of Donald Trump's
33:07
Speaker 2: speech where it makes it sound like he was encouraging
33:10
Speaker 2: rioters to storm the capitol. Media Watch defended this misleading
33:15
Speaker 2: edit last night, which is extraordinary. You can only imagine
33:18
Speaker 2: how they would have attacked news Cop had we edited
33:21
Speaker 2: footage in that way. We're joining me now Radio Legend,
33:25
Speaker 2: Ray Hadley, Ray Charry, Hello.
33:26
Speaker 11: Are you look Chris Kenny is a vastly experienced broadcaster
33:30
Speaker 11: and journalist who is entild to look after his own business. However,
33:34
Speaker 11: a little bit of advice for Chris. I stopped watching
33:37
Speaker 11: media Watch about fifteen years ago. I found that I
33:40
Speaker 11: woke on a Tuesday morning with what seemed like an ulcer,
33:44
Speaker 11: so I investigated. And this is some time ago. It
33:47
Speaker 11: may not be the truth today, but I presented fifteen
33:51
Speaker 11: hours of live radio with myself and three producers, and
33:56
Speaker 11: I got criticized regly by media Watch, who present fifteen
33:59
Speaker 11: minutes of live TV with twelve producers.
34:04
Speaker 1: Talk about a waste of resources.
34:05
Speaker 11: Chris does an hour four nights a week of live TV.
34:10
Speaker 11: Media Watch has been a waste of money for the
34:13
Speaker 11: government and the ABC for quite some time, and that
34:16
Speaker 11: was illustrated by the defense on Monday night of what
34:19
Speaker 11: was a.
34:20
Speaker 1: Dreadful, dreadful, dreadful stuff up.
34:22
Speaker 11: By four Corners, which they should have admitted to, as
34:24
Speaker 11: Chris pointed out, and the attack on Chris should be
34:28
Speaker 11: advice again, Chris, you don't need from me water off
34:31
Speaker 11: a duck's back, because where it is a badge of
34:33
Speaker 11: honor that they're actually talking about.
34:35
Speaker 2: You I'm sure it is to Chris as well, but
34:38
Speaker 2: it wasn't just that they defended. They claimed there was
34:40
Speaker 2: no anti Israel bias at that. I mean, we haven't
34:44
Speaker 2: seen worse cases of bias except in the BBC over
34:47
Speaker 2: the past two years.
34:48
Speaker 11: Hang on, pigs flying across the top of the screen.
34:51
Speaker 11: Pigs might fly, there's no bias, dear, dear, exactly.
34:55
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we haven't spoken yet tonight about the
34:57
Speaker 2: leadership speculation in New Southway. Obviously we saw the changes
35:01
Speaker 2: in Victoria today, but the eyes are also on the Victoria. Sorry,
35:06
Speaker 2: the New South Wales Liberal leader Mark Speakman. I mean
35:08
Speaker 2: most people wouldn't even know that he's the Liberal leader.
35:10
Speaker 2: He's got such a low profile. There's no way he
35:13
Speaker 2: can win against Chris Men's at the next election due
35:17
Speaker 2: in I think twenty twenty seven. Now. Alistair Henskins is
35:21
Speaker 2: the Conservative candidate. He wants the leadership role, but again
35:26
Speaker 2: he will have no chance against Men's. The only person
35:28
Speaker 2: who could be competitive, as we've spoken about before, is
35:33
Speaker 2: Kelly Sloan, but she won't.
35:35
Speaker 11: She won't have a crack. I mean she wants Speakman
35:38
Speaker 11: to stand down. I've said before about Speakman, he's a
35:43
Speaker 11: really pleasant fellow, but he's as boring as you get.
35:45
Speaker 11: He's got no traction with anyone in the community. And
35:49
Speaker 11: if you're having a Rayman or what do you he'd
35:50
Speaker 11: be the one you're sitting out for the grapes because
35:52
Speaker 11: he's a boring and Alista's not far behind. He might
35:55
Speaker 11: might mention he's another lawyer. Just what we need, another
35:58
Speaker 11: lawyer leading the liberal p Yeah, Kelly, but I'd plead
36:02
Speaker 11: with Kelly Slane to stop this nonsense of you know,
36:05
Speaker 11: I won't stand Kelly. Sometimes you've got to do things
36:09
Speaker 11: that you find unpalatable, and this is a case in point.
36:13
Speaker 11: You've got a challenge because we've got wasn't she refreshing.
36:16
Speaker 1: Jess Wilson amazing a breath afresh?
36:20
Speaker 11: It gives them some hope in November next year of
36:23
Speaker 11: perhaps troubling the Labor Party.
36:25
Speaker 2: Really outlines four policy positions. This is what we've been saying, that.
36:29
Speaker 1: Clear and concise, and we've got this hotch pot.
36:32
Speaker 11: I mean the announcement that they are going against their
36:35
Speaker 11: federal counterparts and the nationals both stayed and federal Nationals
36:40
Speaker 11: over zero by twenty fifty.
36:42
Speaker 1: I mean, what planet are they on?
36:44
Speaker 11: You see the thing about it is it's being run
36:46
Speaker 11: by moderates who are terrified their inner city seats may
36:49
Speaker 11: be at risk. Well, how about taking one for the team,
36:52
Speaker 11: because if you actually put your stakes on the line
36:56
Speaker 11: and say we want to go with the Nationals and
36:58
Speaker 11: we want to go with the Federal Party, and yes,
37:01
Speaker 11: we might win some seats that we can't possibly win
37:04
Speaker 11: in regional Australia, and if we happen to lose a
37:06
Speaker 11: few in.
37:07
Speaker 1: The it's about self preservation.
37:09
Speaker 11: These liberal moderates, I mean, they want a job for
37:12
Speaker 11: the next six years.
37:13
Speaker 1: Well, for goodness sake, what about the.
37:15
Speaker 11: Fact that if you're going to govern, you've got to
37:17
Speaker 11: have some policies that canteract the policies of the Labor Party.
37:21
Speaker 11: And Chris means he plays him off a break. I've
37:23
Speaker 11: got to admire him. He said, well, it's very strong
37:25
Speaker 11: stuff by Mark Speakman. Now, Chris, I've said to this,
37:29
Speaker 11: you're a good black Chris, but stop this poppy cock
37:31
Speaker 11: about rapping Speakman, because you know if he stays there,
37:34
Speaker 11: you're one hundred to one on to win the next
37:36
Speaker 11: election and you're a good premier.
37:38
Speaker 1: But we're going to stop this nonsense. About rapping Liberal
37:40
Speaker 1: leaders now.
37:41
Speaker 2: The supporters of Kelly Sloan have said to me that
37:45
Speaker 2: it's a matter of timing. But the election is March
37:48
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. So even if she took on the
37:51
Speaker 2: leadership now, I mean, what is that. That's a year
37:54
Speaker 2: and what four months or five months or something for
37:58
Speaker 2: her to raise her profile. She'd already have a higher
38:01
Speaker 2: profile than Speakman. That's not hard, So it's not that
38:04
Speaker 2: far out. Really, I think there might be something. Everyone's
38:08
Speaker 2: kind of saying she's not going to do it. I
38:10
Speaker 2: think I think she might this week. I reckon she might.
38:13
Speaker 11: Well, I hope she does. I hope she does. Look,
38:16
Speaker 11: as I've said, I admire Chris Means. I think he's
38:18
Speaker 11: a good premier. But to have a strong government, we
38:21
Speaker 11: have a strong opposition and we've got a week week
38:24
Speaker 11: opposition at a Mark Speakman at the moment, that's got
38:26
Speaker 11: to change.
38:26
Speaker 2: I mean, at least he's a good premier because in
38:28
Speaker 2: what we have in Canberra is a shocking government and
38:31
Speaker 2: a weak opposition. It's the absolute worst of both works.
38:34
Speaker 11: I heard your comments earlier and I've read the stuff
38:37
Speaker 11: in The Australian today about Andrew hasty, yes, and the
38:41
Speaker 11: possibility that he may do something to deal with Angus Taylor.
38:45
Speaker 11: Now I like Angus Taylor as well, but he's not
38:47
Speaker 11: Prime ministerial.
38:49
Speaker 2: You think a hasty look.
38:51
Speaker 11: He's got a disadvantage, as Kim Beasley found out.
38:54
Speaker 1: He lives in Western Australia.
38:56
Speaker 11: But we're a far different country than we were when
38:59
Speaker 11: Kim was the opposition leader based in Western Australia. Communications
39:03
Speaker 11: much different, Things are much different. And Hasty is a
39:07
Speaker 11: distinguished ex serviceman and officer in the army. He's from
39:11
Speaker 11: the right and he'll take the fight. He'll take the
39:15
Speaker 11: fight to Penny Wong, to Tony Burke and most importantly
39:20
Speaker 11: to Albow.
39:21
Speaker 1: He'll get up on the floor of Parliament and.
39:22
Speaker 11: You watch he mix it with him if he's the leader. Now,
39:25
Speaker 11: I just don't think that Angus has the same and
39:28
Speaker 11: this is an old expression, the rugby league expression, the
39:30
Speaker 11: same sort of mongrel in him that's required to be
39:33
Speaker 11: the leader when you're fighting. I mean sometimes when you
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Speaker 11: fight with in politics, you've got to get down and
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Speaker 11: get dirty, you know. And I said to a couple
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Speaker 11: of times a Toney Abbott when he was copying it
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Speaker 11: on the chin. I said, you've got to get down
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Speaker 11: and mix it with him. Taney, you've got to get
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Speaker 11: a bit dirty. When you're wrestling with pigs, you're going
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Speaker 11: to get a bit of bud on you. And that's
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Speaker 11: what you've got to do when you need someone like
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Speaker 11: Hasty who's you know, his policy is one too, you know,
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Speaker 11: entice everyone across the line. But at least there are
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Speaker 11: policies there that are separate to the policies of the
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Speaker 11: Labor government. And I think, I just think if we've
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Speaker 11: seen what they've done in Victoria, if we see what
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Speaker 11: they do in New South Wales, and I think to
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Speaker 11: the next generator, it's a generational change. With no disrespect
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Speaker 11: to Susan Lebertt, she's got twenty four percent of the
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Speaker 11: primary vote. Yeah, I mean Humphrey B Bear it have
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Speaker 11: thirty percent.
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Speaker 2: I mean, fair miss Humphrey be Bear was my favorite
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Speaker 2: when I was a well.
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Speaker 1: My children of course went with the Wiggles.
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Speaker 11: Humphrey b for our well people my age remember Humphrey
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Speaker 11: particularly you love it.
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Speaker 2: You love Humphrey literally my hero and all these photographs
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Speaker 2: meeting him age shopping s.
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Speaker 11: Look, I don't want to for the party but I
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Speaker 11: was at Channel nine one day when Humphrey took his
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Speaker 11: head off.
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Speaker 2: I ruined it for me.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 11: What was most disconcerting for me as well to see
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Speaker 11: Humphrey was Humphrey. His first name was Jim. But he's
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Speaker 11: a good style of a blake. But he wasn't as
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Speaker 11: good as Humphrey.
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Speaker 2: Very quickly before were a change in the National Party
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Speaker 2: as well. In New South Wales. Today Gomesh Singh was
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Speaker 2: elected on a now ray. You were mates with the
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Speaker 2: former national leaders. Former National leader doogled It was only
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Speaker 2: there a couple of years.
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Speaker 11: Three years, but Google worked with me in the year
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Speaker 11: two thousand. He was a radio presenter who went to
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Speaker 11: two Do You Were Dubbo and worked out there. And
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Speaker 11: if he says, because I know him to be a
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Speaker 11: truthful fellow, if he says that he's got some problems
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Speaker 11: at home, you know that he needs to sort.
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Speaker 1: Out more time.
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Speaker 11: When you're the national leader and Gurmesh is about to
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Speaker 11: find this out, you don't spend your time in coffsarbora Dubbo.
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Speaker 1: You're all over the place.
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Speaker 11: You're really home and you know that can put certain pressures,
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Speaker 11: you know on anyone's life, let alone a man married
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Speaker 11: with children. So Gurmez Singh is a refreshing black. When
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Speaker 11: I was on radio, he'd ring quite often because I
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Speaker 11: used to broadcast into Coughs Harbor and he was one
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Speaker 11: of those blakes who'd pick up the phone and engage
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Speaker 11: with me and have a chat about different things, you know,
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Speaker 11: different things happening in his town where there's law and
41:54
Speaker 11: order to bypass that's happening in Cofts Harbor and things
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Speaker 11: like that.
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Speaker 1: And I watched Andrew.
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Speaker 11: Early Andrew Bolt where he said, look, I could have
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Speaker 11: been called the Indian Australian, but my four bears got
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Speaker 11: here in eighteen ninety four. I think I'm entitled, you know,
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Speaker 11: three or four generations on to be called an Australian.
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Speaker 1: And that's what he is.
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Speaker 11: You know, he's obviously proud of what his four bears
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Speaker 11: have been able to achieve since they came here. But
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Speaker 11: like many people, whether they came from India, Greece, Malta,
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Speaker 11: Italy or anywhere else, the people I know, they're firstly
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Speaker 11: Australians who have great affection for those people who came
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Speaker 11: here to start.
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Speaker 1: A new life.
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Speaker 2: Well said, right, so great to have you here? I
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Speaker 2: lovely segments Tuesday this week not Monday.
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Speaker 1: I'll be back next Monday. O see then all the best,
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Speaker 1: Thanks show.
42:39
Speaker 2: Now still to come. The neo Nazi who had his
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Speaker 2: visa revoked is now hitting back. Barnes Plaster's Pennywong's defense
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Speaker 2: of Australia China tize clash with Azio's warnings. Camra Milner
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Speaker 2: is here next Welcome back. Foreign Minister Pennywong has defended
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Speaker 2: Labour's relationship with China, arguing that it doesn't impact our
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Speaker 2: national security.
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Speaker 9: China is our largest training plant, It is the world
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Speaker 9: of second largest economy.
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Speaker 10: It is a key player or common action.
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Speaker 12: We should not be destructed and in false bindary in
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Speaker 12: this relationship.
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Speaker 2: Any claim that safe nyling our sovereignty is somehow mutually
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Speaker 2: exclusive is productive economic times. This comes after ASIO Director
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Speaker 2: General Mike Burgess sounded fresh alarms over China's state sponsored
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Speaker 2: cyber attacks at an asset lunch last week. Were joining
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Speaker 2: me to discuss former Chief of Staff to Bill Shott
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Speaker 2: and Cameron Milner. Cameron, did you think Pennywong's tone was
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Speaker 2: different from asio's.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, And this is the political schizophrenia at the heart
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Speaker 12: of the Albanese government political schizophrenia. You've got Penny Wong
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Speaker 12: playing foot seats with Beijing and trying to be an appeaser,
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Speaker 12: while we're being warned by the head of ASIO that
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Speaker 12: that's China's hacking us, hacking our critically structure, trying to
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Speaker 12: probe the.
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Speaker 1: Government's database all the time.
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Speaker 12: And at the same time too, we're also being told
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Speaker 12: that UCUS is absolutely vital to our defense because of
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Speaker 12: the threat of the China.
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Speaker 1: So we're kind of it both ways.
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Speaker 12: I mean, Labor wants to took up ucast support ASIO
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Speaker 12: butt the same time the foreign ministers out there being
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Speaker 12: in a peaser to China.
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Speaker 2: I mean she did compare China with Russia, Iran and
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Speaker 2: North Korea, as she said there were forces trying to
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Speaker 2: sabotage and destabilize. But then you see the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: having this six day trip to China being called a
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Speaker 2: handsome boy cozing up. So I think you're right. It
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Speaker 2: is mixed messages.
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Speaker 12: It is and elbows, happy to sort of walk great
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Speaker 12: wall and cuttle pandas, but then it gets completely embarrassed
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Speaker 12: in the Pacific Forum a few days later, and constantly
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Speaker 12: you know, it had a rat flane with flares being
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Speaker 12: shot at it. I mean by the Chinese military. I mean,
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Speaker 12: these guys are being aggressive in our region.
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Speaker 2: You've written a cut and piece, a cutting piece for
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Speaker 2: The Nightly on Susan and Lee. You say metaphorically that
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Speaker 2: she's a dead woman walking. That's in terms of her leadership.
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Speaker 2: You say she's hopeless at the job. And instead you're
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Speaker 2: suggesting that the Liberals should draft the most talented liberal
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Speaker 2: future leader to the cause. Josh Fredenberg tell us about this.
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Speaker 1: Well very simply, Shari.
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Speaker 12: I mean, you know, if you're going to break political
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Speaker 12: convention about net zero, then you might as well actually
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Speaker 12: do what you need to do and actually get a
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Speaker 12: real leader, a real leader, not.
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Speaker 1: A pretend one.
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Speaker 12: I mean Angus Taylor, fluff, complete fluffer, shadow treasure, Andrew Hasty,
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Speaker 12: completely untested, completely untested. Josh Friedenberg on Andy Semitism has
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Speaker 12: shown national leadership, national leadership, Sharie, and a voice for
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Speaker 12: certainty and reason in Australia, far more than Prime Minster,
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Speaker 12: far more than the previous Susan Lee's done in recent times.
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Speaker 12: So no, I mean it's doable. Get past the electro
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Speaker 12: mechanics Campbell Newman did it when he ran for Ashgrave
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Speaker 12: and creamed it in Queen's Land again. How it work
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Speaker 12: just logistically, really simply he simply says at the next
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Speaker 12: federal election, I'm going to run for this particular seat,
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Speaker 12: and then becomes essentially the spokesperson all the other issues
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Speaker 12: that the Liberal Party needs to talk about.
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Speaker 1: Cost of living, you know.
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Speaker 12: Driving, driving, you a better bargain on fair, a better power.
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Speaker 1: All those sorts of things.
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Speaker 12: Freedenberg is the person who's got experiences as the treasurer
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Speaker 12: who got us through COVID. He's articulate, he's smart, he's
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Speaker 12: sent a right. He's actually the person who would be
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Speaker 12: the best possible leader of the Liberal Party going forward
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Speaker 12: and just deal with the electro mechanics down the track.
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Speaker 2: Fascinating. I mean, I agree with you, he's the most
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Speaker 2: experienced natural leader. He needs to get back in that.
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Speaker 2: It's just how and whether he will. Now the Liberals,
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Speaker 2: they've obviously sited net zero, they're now going to turn
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Speaker 2: to migration. I mean, Susan Lee has signaled that that's
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Speaker 2: the next fight she has to have. I hear that
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Speaker 2: in all the research, this is now the number one
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Speaker 2: issue I.
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Speaker 12: Look at is and it's been bubbling away and building
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Speaker 12: up for a long time. And because we're dealing with
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Speaker 12: not only migration but also the housing crisis. I mean
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Speaker 12: Elbows caused the dual problem. He opened the floodgates migration
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Speaker 12: to pump the economy up without building a single new house.
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Speaker 1: And you wonder why we've got a rental crisis.
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Speaker 12: You wonder why we've got a housing affordability crisis because
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Speaker 12: Albow basically let migration get out of control and now
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Speaker 12: we have a housing crisis. So yes, absolutely huge issue,
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Speaker 12: huge issue for voters and the Coalition get onto it.
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Speaker 12: Labour's very vulnerable as they've been in the UK for
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Speaker 12: instance with Starma.
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Speaker 2: She is struggling to get the net zero policy across.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Bolt covered this as well earlier, but I didn't
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Speaker 2: see the interview myself. I was preparing to go on
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Speaker 2: air last night, but she was on seven thirty last
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Speaker 2: night and it's been reported on our Sky News website
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Speaker 2: that she was interrupted thirty five times. Have a look
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Speaker 2: clip is coming in one moment. Have we got the clip?
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee welcome, terrific to be here in the studio
47:52
Speaker 2: with his Sarah.
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Speaker 9: Our affordable Energy Plan but it will come out in
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Speaker 9: a moment and then let's hold you would but will
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Speaker 9: you hang on our affordable energy plan? So you've said
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Speaker 9: we need are well, I asked not about holding and
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Speaker 9: that dirty hang on. If I can just answer the
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Speaker 9: question is now, because I come from time, I think
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Speaker 9: we should think we should bok that.
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Speaker 2: At the same time I promised talking about your lifetime.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 9: We believe all's a moment I know or not With
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Speaker 9: respects Sarah, if you will let me finish, please, The
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Speaker 9: main game is how we trink neighbors. Yet that trink
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Speaker 9: the document documents, and it's about the government ape. I'm
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Speaker 9: not That's why costs have gone up forty percent. That's
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Speaker 9: why Australians are struggling.
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Speaker 2: That's why we have to thank you very much for
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Speaker 2: coming in hard to mount in the case publicly, Cameron.
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Speaker 12: Look, this is the apprehended bias of the ABC. I mean,
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Speaker 12: if you're not a lefty sop till you get a
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Speaker 12: hard time. I mean, Sarah Fercus should get down from
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Speaker 12: the bully pulpit of the seventh third Report desk and
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Speaker 12: run for politics. If she wants to be a political activist,
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Speaker 12: she's either interviewing someone, listening to them and hearing what
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Speaker 12: they've got to say, or she's being abusive and interruptive.
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Speaker 12: Now you can't have both, and the ABC and the
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Speaker 12: textpayers shouldn't be paying for Sarah Ferguson to be a
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Speaker 12: political activist on the ABC.
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Speaker 2: Camerra Milner, great to see you as always, Thank you
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Speaker 2: so much. Likewise, now after the break, the South African
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Speaker 2: neo Nazi is set to be deported. He's now been
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Speaker 2: taken into a detention center. I bring you the details next.
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Speaker 2: The South African neo Nazi who rallied outside Parliament House
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Speaker 2: has reportedly been taken into immigration detention at Villawood after
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Speaker 2: the Home Affairs Department revoked his visa. Now, while this
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Speaker 2: is absolutely a good thing, I agree with musician Simon
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Speaker 2: Tdeski who made this point in a letter to the editor.
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Speaker 2: He says there is a savage irony here that cannot
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Speaker 2: be ignored. While the Premier rightly calls out the far
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Speaker 2: rights anti Semitism, the radical lefts digital echo of the
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Speaker 2: same retoric goes unchallenged on social media. The New Public Square.
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Speaker 2: One could read almost word for word the same vilification
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Speaker 2: of the Jewish lobby and the same insinuations of secret control,
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Speaker 2: dual loyalty, and moral corruption. The language differs only in dress.
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Speaker 2: One wears boots, the other hashtags well said, that's all
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Speaker 2: we've got time for tonight, I'll see you tomorrow at eight.
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Speaker 2: And here's Paul Murray.