Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 16 July 2024
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
- 0:08Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City,
- 0:12Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture bands and a play at store.
- 0:14Speaker 2: News Talks.
- 0:15Speaker 3: He'd be good morning, it is six after five, you're
- 0:18Speaker 3: on news talks. He'd be on Ryan Bridge and we
- 0:21Speaker 3: have Mark Mitchell, the Police Minister, first up at thirteen
- 0:25Speaker 3: after five this morning, talking about that police pay deal,
- 0:29Speaker 3: which is well, not great for if you're a police
- 0:31Speaker 3: officer in New Zealand, not great for us because will
- 0:36Speaker 3: it see some of them many of them shift overseas,
- 0:40Speaker 3: head to Australia where the pay is much better. We'll
- 0:42Speaker 3: look at that. Also, bad day to be Joe Biden.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Things just go from bad to worse for him, don't they.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Not only are they having to pull all of their
- 0:52Speaker 3: attack ads on Donald Trump because he obviously had the
- 0:55Speaker 3: assassination attempt, but now this federal judge has dismissed the
- 1:00Speaker 3: classified documents case. And remember their big argument with Trump
- 1:04Speaker 3: is he's a threat to democracy, he's above the law,
- 1:07Speaker 3: all of that stuff, and this case has now been
- 1:09Speaker 3: thrown out. So we'll have more on that in a
- 1:11Speaker 3: second two right now, seven after five the agenda and
- 1:16Speaker 3: it's Tuesday, the sixteenth of July. Eight people have been
- 1:19Speaker 3: placed on leave at Immigration New Zealand following serious allegations
- 1:23Speaker 3: of chats on team chats. Immigration New Zealand Deputy Secretary
- 1:28Speaker 3: Allison McDonald says the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment
- 1:31Speaker 3: will investigate the comments which appear to breach MB's code
- 1:34Speaker 3: of conduct, though we don't know exactly what was said.
- 1:38Speaker 3: The Public Health Communications Center is raising concerns that people
- 1:41Speaker 3: who don't need antibiotics are being prescribed them anyway. It
- 1:45Speaker 3: says New Zealand as one of the countries with the
- 1:47Speaker 3: highest rates of resistance, which could make it harder to
- 1:50Speaker 3: treat infections. Mark Thomas from the University of Auckland says
- 1:54Speaker 3: any antibiotic use will contribute to resistance.
- 1:57Speaker 4: The large parts of the antiboticus New Zealand.
- 2:00Speaker 3: It is for people who have viral infections where everybody
- 2:03Speaker 3: makes no difference to the outcome. The problem is when
- 2:06Speaker 3: you're sick, you just want it to be gone. Don't
- 2:08Speaker 3: you you take anything they give you. New data release
- 2:10Speaker 3: to news Talk ZIRB shows three neighboring police districts have
- 2:14Speaker 3: all reported the highest number of assaults on officers in
- 2:17Speaker 3: the past four years. Get this, there were at least
- 2:20Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty assaults reported in both counties Monaco
- 2:24Speaker 3: and Waikato, and more than five hundred in the Bay
- 2:27Speaker 3: of Plenty. Chris Carhill from the Police Association said he's
- 2:30Speaker 3: not surprised.
- 2:31Speaker 5: The key message over i'm A members is people are
- 2:34Speaker 5: more willing.
- 2:34Speaker 2: To assault police officers are more willing to confront them
- 2:37Speaker 2: the less compliant.
- 2:40Speaker 3: And as I mentioned earlier, Trump's motion to dismiss his
- 2:42Speaker 3: classified documents cases being granted, with a Florida judge saying
- 2:46Speaker 3: the appointment of a special prosecutor by the Attorney General
- 2:49Speaker 3: was unlawful. Dozens of documents were found in his Mari
- 2:53Speaker 3: Lago property after Trump's presidency in twenty twenty one. He
- 2:56Speaker 3: previously pled not guilty to multiple charges in the case.
- 3:00Speaker 3: It is nine after five, Ryan Bridge. So yeah, he's
- 3:04Speaker 3: going to pick apparently in the next couple of hours,
- 3:06Speaker 3: maybe even while we're on here. He's apparently going to
- 3:08Speaker 3: announce his pick for VP. His running mate j D
- 3:12Speaker 3: Varannce We spoke about him yesterday. The senator from Ohio
- 3:16Speaker 3: is up there on the list. He's endorsed by Trump's
- 3:18Speaker 3: son Don Jr. He wants his dad to pick vance.
- 3:22Speaker 3: Then there's Doug Bergham. He's the North Dakota governor. He
- 3:27Speaker 3: didn't make much of a showing in the twenty twenty
- 3:30Speaker 3: four primaries. He's the rich one. He's estimated by Forbes
- 3:34Speaker 3: to be worth one hundred million dollars. And then there's
- 3:36Speaker 3: Marco Rubio, who most of you will know. He's the
- 3:39Speaker 3: Florida Senator and he once called Trump a dangerous con
- 3:44Speaker 3: man with small hands. You might remember that from the
- 3:47Speaker 3: some of the good debates of our years gone past.
- 3:50Speaker 3: Very quickly, Darling, because we've got to get to Mark Mitchell,
- 3:53Speaker 3: who's the Police Minister, shortly. But Darling Tanner has spoken
- 3:56Speaker 3: to TVNZ and she was asked what or what didn't
- 4:00Speaker 3: you do? Have a listen.
- 4:02Speaker 6: I know what I did and what I did not do.
- 4:04Speaker 2: What didn't you do?
- 4:07Speaker 6: I didn't exploit migrants?
- 4:12Speaker 3: Well that's good. She also said, and this is the
- 4:15Speaker 3: annoying that when asked, you know, what are you going
- 4:17Speaker 3: to do next? She's going to take how much time
- 4:21Speaker 3: I wonder to decide whether she'll actually leave Parliament.
- 4:24Speaker 6: The easiest thing may well be to step away.
- 4:28Speaker 7: But either way that's a decision that requires quite some consideration.
- 4:33Speaker 3: Quite some consideration. You've had one hundred and fifteen days suspended,
- 4:37Speaker 3: you're on one hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars a year.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Just get out of here. Already eleven after five, Mark Mitchell.
- 4:44Speaker 8: Next, News and Views you Trust to start your day.
- 4:49Speaker 8: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
- 4:53Speaker 8: Zealand's furniture beds at a flying store.
- 4:55Speaker 2: News Talk said, be we're.
- 4:57Speaker 3: Live to Australia just before six this morning. There's been
- 5:01Speaker 3: quite the shift in the polls across the Tasman when
- 5:04Speaker 3: it comes to the coalition the opposition. So we'll talk
- 5:07Speaker 3: to our correspondent out of Sydney about that. Just before
- 5:10Speaker 3: six o'clock. Right now, it's thirteen after five and the
- 5:13Speaker 3: government has won its long running pay dispute with the
- 5:16Speaker 3: police union, prompting fears of a mass exodus of cops.
- 5:20Speaker 3: Both sides had to enter arbitration last year after negotiations stalled.
- 5:24Speaker 3: The arbitrators have settled for the government. The offer is
- 5:27Speaker 3: fifteen hundred dollars. That's a lump sum payment, five thousand
- 5:30Speaker 3: dollars pay increase basically it's four percent for twenty twenty
- 5:33Speaker 3: four a pay increase, and four percent for twenty twenty five, which,
- 5:37Speaker 3: if you believe Adrian all were when he says he'll
- 5:40Speaker 3: get inflation within target, that would actually put that ahead
- 5:43Speaker 3: of inflation. However, many cops still unhappy. Mark Mitchell is
- 5:48Speaker 3: the police Minister and who joins me now, Minister, good morning.
- 5:50Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, Ryan, how are you good?
- 5:52Speaker 3: Thank you. Have you seen any projections on how many
- 5:55Speaker 3: police officers might quit the force after this?
- 5:58Speaker 4: No, I haven't, but you know, of course, you know, look,
- 6:02Speaker 4: I completely understand and feel where they're coming from. But
- 6:05Speaker 4: the reality of it is is an incoming government. We
- 6:08Speaker 4: were really hard to put together what we feel was
- 6:11Speaker 4: a really fair offer. You know, at the end of
- 6:14Speaker 4: the day, me personally, I was very proud that we
- 6:16Speaker 4: for the first time ever in New Zealand, we're going
- 6:18Speaker 4: to be paying. We're going to go to paid overtime
- 6:22Speaker 4: and for me that was really significant. I know that
- 6:24Speaker 4: in mind police and career, I was a police style
- 6:27Speaker 4: chemist sort of covering from were a toy to wire.
- 6:29Speaker 4: There's only two of us. We're working a two week
- 6:32Speaker 4: where working a two week roster side night shift every
- 6:35Speaker 4: second week. I had an enormous build up of toil.
- 6:37Speaker 4: In fact, I stopped collecting toil because it was not manageable.
- 6:41Speaker 4: And if I'd had paid overtime as a young police
- 6:43Speaker 4: officer with two kids, I would have loved to have
- 6:46Speaker 4: trend listen to that. We've put that in there, so
- 6:48Speaker 4: I completely totally understand you know the way our plas
- 6:52Speaker 4: are feeling. But hand on heart right, we've inherited it.
- 6:57Speaker 4: We've we've had a huge hospital pass and we've put
- 7:00Speaker 4: to you what we think is a really fair package.
- 7:02Speaker 3: Chris Carhill says many of the police officers who were
- 7:05Speaker 3: on the fence about moving to Australia will probably make
- 7:08Speaker 3: the call and go now. He also said that the
- 7:10Speaker 3: options were either this or there would be jobs job cuts,
- 7:14Speaker 3: So either you pay fewer officers more or you pay
- 7:19Speaker 3: more officers less. Was that was that a serious consideration?
- 7:24Speaker 4: Well, I wasn't in the detail that. Obviously the final
- 7:27Speaker 4: off arbitration is between the Association and the police, and
- 7:31Speaker 4: so I'm.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Not going to talk to would you have would you
- 7:34Speaker 3: have as police minister, would you have let job cuts
- 7:37Speaker 3: happen at police?
- 7:38Speaker 6: No?
- 7:38Speaker 4: Absolutely not, There's no way we were frontline job, toutcheat.
- 7:42Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we've inherited an absolute mess and
- 7:44Speaker 4: we're fighting our way through and we're determined to start
- 7:47Speaker 4: to turn things around. At the end of the day,
- 7:50Speaker 4: of course, I don't want to lose police officers to Australia,
- 7:52Speaker 4: but look, the reality of is they've given outstanding public
- 7:56Speaker 4: service here in New Zealand. I make the best decisions
- 7:58Speaker 4: for them and your family. Look when I was in
- 8:00Speaker 4: the police, the Australians we hear recruiting some of our
- 8:02Speaker 4: police officers go most day and at the end of
- 8:06Speaker 4: the day, for me, I'm just fully focused on getting
- 8:08Speaker 4: on top of the awful situation that's been allowed to
- 8:11Speaker 4: grow over the last six years with mess have increasing
- 8:13Speaker 4: game numbers and violence, violent retail crime. The only ones
- 8:17Speaker 4: that can get on top of this problem will have
- 8:19Speaker 4: got a big role to play. It's not just the police,
- 8:21Speaker 4: it's just the system as well. Are the police are
- 8:24Speaker 4: the only one They've got the training and the powers
- 8:28Speaker 4: and we've got to get on top of the problem.
- 8:30Speaker 4: And I totally understand it. I'm sensitive to how they're
- 8:33Speaker 4: feeling about the pay negotiation handle.
- 8:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, I agree with you. They
- 8:39Speaker 3: played such a critical role, which is why I'm surprised
- 8:42Speaker 3: at the fact that this has happened the way that
- 8:45Speaker 3: it has. And when you've got seventy five percent of
- 8:47Speaker 3: the cops voting against the previous offer, which was very
- 8:51Speaker 3: similar to this one, and you know, how can you
- 8:54Speaker 3: have any credibility with them?
- 8:56Speaker 4: No, but it wasn't the last offer. This new offer
- 9:00Speaker 4: that our government put on the table is a quarter
- 9:02Speaker 4: of a billion dollars more in an environment where as
- 9:05Speaker 4: a country, we're paying eight point five billion dollars a
- 9:07Speaker 4: year just in interest payments. We've we've got to get
- 9:10Speaker 4: our books back in order, we've got to start fighting
- 9:13Speaker 4: our way back to a surplus and gaining the economy
- 9:15Speaker 4: up and running again. And this was in light of that.
- 9:19Speaker 4: Just let me recap. It was a fifteen hundred dollars
- 9:21Speaker 4: lump sum payment. It was a five thousand dollars wage
- 9:24Speaker 4: increase and a five point two five percent increase in
- 9:27Speaker 4: allowances from November one, twenty three. Then we went to
- 9:30Speaker 4: a four percent wage increase and corresponding increases to allowances
- 9:34Speaker 4: from July one, twenty twenty four, and then another four
- 9:37Speaker 4: percent wage increase in corresponding allowances from July one, twenty
- 9:42Speaker 4: twenty five, which you said is projected to be above inflation.
- 9:45Speaker 4: And on top of that we had a we went
- 9:48Speaker 4: we were transitioning to a paid overtime framework we never
- 9:50Speaker 4: had before in New Zealand. So it was it was
- 9:53Speaker 4: it was an offer that we were really hard as
- 9:55Speaker 4: a government to put forward. Hand on hard. It was
- 9:57Speaker 4: the best that we could do. Lot of diminishing the
- 10:01Speaker 4: sector the way that their frontline police are feeling. But
- 10:04Speaker 4: you know, look, some people will make the decisions in
- 10:07Speaker 4: terms of what's right for them and this family. For me,
- 10:09Speaker 4: I've just got to keep looking forward and I've got
- 10:11Speaker 4: to keep trying to deal with, you know, this awful
- 10:14Speaker 4: situation that's been let to grow over the last few years.
- 10:16Speaker 3: It's Mark Mitchell, the Minister of Police, with us this morning.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your time, just gone eighteen
- 10:20Speaker 3: minutes after five o'clock. Of course, one of the big
- 10:22Speaker 3: problems here is, you know, he's right that the pay
- 10:26Speaker 3: increase will go above what inflation is projected to be.
- 10:29Speaker 3: But for the last few years, well for the last
- 10:32Speaker 3: few years under Labor that is, inflation was running red
- 10:36Speaker 3: hot and the police pay increases were about three and
- 10:38Speaker 3: a half percent per year, so that's what they're trying
- 10:41Speaker 3: to make up for. Nineteen after five Ryan Bridge New
- 10:45Speaker 3: for twenty twenty four on early edition with Smith City,
- 10:49Speaker 3: New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store. News Talks,
- 10:52Speaker 3: it'd be twenty one after five, Good Morning New Zealand.
- 10:55Speaker 3: Great to have you listening to news talks, said be
- 10:57Speaker 3: this morning. We'd love your views also on whither you
- 11:00Speaker 3: think it's a fair deal that the police officers are well,
- 11:03Speaker 3: that's what they've been lumped with basically after the arbitration
- 11:05Speaker 3: decision sided with the government. Nine two ninety two is
- 11:09Speaker 3: the number to text, would love to hear from you
- 11:11Speaker 3: this morning. Mandatory monthly phone calls have been introduced by
- 11:15Speaker 3: the Ministry of Social Development between those on a job
- 11:17Speaker 3: seeker support benefit and case managers. The service is aimed
- 11:21Speaker 3: at eighteen to twenty four year olds, with case managers
- 11:24Speaker 3: getting in touch with their clients. Do we call them
- 11:26Speaker 3: clients at least once every twenty eight days. Any job
- 11:31Speaker 3: seeker that misses their call without a good reason could
- 11:34Speaker 3: face sanctions. Joining me now as employment relations expert Max Whitehead, Max,
- 11:38Speaker 3: Good Morning what do these case managers actually make a difference,
- 11:42Speaker 3: do you think?
- 11:44Speaker 9: Oh right, I think most certainly. There's nothing like getting
- 11:47Speaker 9: a bit of a nudge every now and again. Hey, hey,
- 11:49Speaker 9: wake up, you've got a potential job here. Why don't
- 11:52Speaker 9: you give it a call. I think it's a brilliant idea,
- 11:55Speaker 9: and I think it's something that I think those taxpayers
- 11:59Speaker 9: should have expected to happen a long time ago. Yeah,
- 12:02Speaker 9: you know, to keep on the ball of those people
- 12:04Speaker 9: that we're paying to sit at home.
- 12:06Speaker 3: Yeah, I was quite surprised to hear that less than
- 12:09Speaker 3: a third of those that are getting that job seeker
- 12:11Speaker 3: support benefit actually receive the case manager service.
- 12:15Speaker 9: At this point, Well, they meet and I would hope
- 12:19Speaker 9: that our you know, the public servants who we pay
- 12:23Speaker 9: to look after these people, will respond to this even more.
- 12:26Speaker 9: But I believe we're going to put on a lot
- 12:28Speaker 9: more staff to enable this to happen. And look, Ryan,
- 12:31Speaker 9: it's only fair, you know, the taxpayers. These are people
- 12:35Speaker 9: that go to work every day. These are the people
- 12:37Speaker 9: that are subject to employment law. Do you know what
- 12:40Speaker 9: the employment law requires that they are communicative and responsive. Now,
- 12:44Speaker 9: surely somebody is sitting at home not even to go
- 12:47Speaker 9: to work every day, should be subjected to the same rules,
- 12:51Speaker 9: and that is to be responsive to a phone call.
- 12:53Speaker 9: And I'm certainly very much in favor of it, and
- 12:57Speaker 9: a phone call is exactly what they needed, just to
- 12:59Speaker 9: give them a little wake up because some of these
- 13:02Speaker 9: young people are not too disciplined when they come out
- 13:05Speaker 9: of school and getting them ready for work a disciplinary Hey,
- 13:09Speaker 9: you need to come and do so, and so otherwise
- 13:11Speaker 9: your benefit's going to get cut, I think is the
- 13:14Speaker 9: right way to go.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Max white Head, the employment law specialist with us this morning. Max,
- 13:18Speaker 3: thanks very much for your time. Twenty three minutes after five.
- 13:21Speaker 3: Coming up next we will get to some of your
- 13:23Speaker 3: feedback on the police pay increase. Not what they wanted,
- 13:28Speaker 3: but actually a lot of people saying I haven't had
- 13:32Speaker 3: an increase. I'm in the private sector, so some very
- 13:35Speaker 3: differing views and reaction to that decision. We'll have that
- 13:39Speaker 3: for you next.
- 13:41Speaker 8: Separating the fact from the section, It's Billy edition with
- 13:45Speaker 8: Smith City, New.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Zealand's Furniture Beds and Appliant Store.
- 13:49Speaker 3: News Talk zedb twenty six After five year on news
- 13:52Speaker 3: Talk ZB on Ryan Bridge, we've just adopted basically a
- 13:56Speaker 3: hope wait and see approach to policing in this country
- 14:00Speaker 3: at a time when crime is out of control. People
- 14:02Speaker 3: don't feel safe in their own homes, they don't feel
- 14:05Speaker 3: safe in city streets. One hundred and fifty thousand retail
- 14:09Speaker 3: crimes were reported last year one hundred and fifty thousand,
- 14:13Speaker 3: And despite their best efforts, our comps are struggling to
- 14:15Speaker 3: keep up, and they've just been delivered what I think
- 14:18Speaker 3: is basically a slap in the face for in terms
- 14:22Speaker 3: of pay by the government. The Police Association has lost
- 14:25Speaker 3: its final offer arbitration over pay increases, meaning the government
- 14:29Speaker 3: one Chris Carhill says he can now only quote hope
- 14:33Speaker 3: that officers won't move to Australia en mass, where pays
- 14:38Speaker 3: way higher and conditions are much better, well certainly in
- 14:41Speaker 3: some states. On the face of it, the offer actually
- 14:43Speaker 3: looks pretty good, along with a lump sum and overtime
- 14:46Speaker 3: being paid, which is not to be scoffed at. The
- 14:49Speaker 3: increases are actually four percent from July first backdated and
- 14:52Speaker 3: four percent from July twenty twenty five. And if we
- 14:55Speaker 3: believe Adrian Or and Coe's predictions about inflation hitting the
- 14:58Speaker 3: target of one to three percent later this year, then
- 15:01Speaker 3: the increase that the police get will actually beat inflation,
- 15:04Speaker 3: which sounds pretty good, right, not when you consider the
- 15:08Speaker 3: shite sandwich that they've been dealt in the past few years.
- 15:11Speaker 3: Under labor inflation was out of control. It was as
- 15:14Speaker 3: out of control as crime. You could say, it was
- 15:16Speaker 3: running at about six to seven percent, and during that
- 15:19Speaker 3: time police annual pay increased only about three and a
- 15:23Speaker 3: half percent. The police union says it basically had to
- 15:26Speaker 3: suck it up take the deal because if they went
- 15:28Speaker 3: for more, it might mean job cuts. And we've just
- 15:31Speaker 3: spoken to the police minister. He says he wouldn't have
- 15:33Speaker 3: let that happen. But I mean, how do you know?
- 15:37Speaker 3: So do we want fewer higher paid cops or more
- 15:41Speaker 3: lower paid cops? The reality is that we might get
- 15:44Speaker 3: the worst of both worlds if they upsticks and cross
- 15:48Speaker 3: the ditch, fewer of them and the rest feeling underpaid
- 15:52Speaker 3: and overworked. Crain Bridge, twenty eight minutes after five. Now,
- 15:56Speaker 3: So Donald Trump, we're all waiting for. He's not meant
- 15:59Speaker 3: to speak at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee until Wednesday.
- 16:04Speaker 3: I believe he's going to or later in the sorry Friday,
- 16:07Speaker 3: our time. He's going to give his keynote address, but
- 16:11Speaker 3: we should hear from him today, even if it's via
- 16:13Speaker 3: statement about his running mate. He's apparently going to pick
- 16:16Speaker 3: his vice president in the next couple of hours. And
- 16:19Speaker 3: he is actually gaining because Milwaukee's in Wisconsin, and this
- 16:24Speaker 3: is a key battleground state, and he's gaining in the
- 16:26Speaker 3: polls there. This state has been decided by less than
- 16:29Speaker 3: a percentage point in four of the past six elections,
- 16:34Speaker 3: so it is tight, but he is gaining there. And
- 16:38Speaker 3: also hard day or hard times for Biden because you
- 16:42Speaker 3: can't go and attack Trump, ken you because he's just
- 16:44Speaker 3: been shot at. You can't run attack ads against him.
- 16:48Speaker 3: That would look bad. His classified documents case has just
- 16:52Speaker 3: been thrown out, though I'm sure there'll be an appeal.
- 16:55Speaker 3: You know, you're losing your marbles. You've got Pelosi and
- 16:58Speaker 3: Clooney breathing down your neck. Things aren't looking good for
- 17:02Speaker 3: Joe Biden, are they. It has just gone twenty nine
- 17:05Speaker 3: minutes after five. You're on News Talk SIDB. I'm Ryan
- 17:07Speaker 3: Bridge and when we come back, news, sport and weather,
- 17:11Speaker 3: also we are live to Australia for the latest headlines.
- 17:14Speaker 10: Then Maha, don't breckon love me too, Maum.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Love this town WestEd you right there all alone.
- 17:35Speaker 8: The news you need this morning and the in depth
- 17:38Speaker 8: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
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- 17:45Speaker 3: We were bottle.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Down, sadly.
- 17:58Speaker 5: Pretty far away from Sex.
- 17:59Speaker 3: You're on news Talk, they'd be on, Ryan Bridge. Great
- 18:01Speaker 3: to have you with me this morning. We are live
- 18:03Speaker 3: to the great state of Wisconsin where the Republican National
- 18:07Speaker 3: Convention is taking place. Donald Trump is due to speak.
- 18:09Speaker 3: We're not exactly sure when, but he is tipped to
- 18:13Speaker 3: pick his vice president and announce who that person will
- 18:15Speaker 3: be today. We'll keep you up to date if anything happens,
- 18:18Speaker 3: both on this program and on the Mike Hosking Breakfast,
- 18:21Speaker 3: which starts after six Lots of your feedback coming in.
- 18:25Speaker 3: On the police pay deal, Ryan, a great increase for
- 18:28Speaker 3: the police. I work in the private sector and have
- 18:31Speaker 3: not had an increase for six years. Well done to
- 18:34Speaker 3: the Minister. Ryan. Honestly, the police deal is not that bad.
- 18:37Speaker 3: It's better than the last bunch of idiots in what
- 18:39Speaker 3: they gave them. My oldest boy is a cop in Australia,
- 18:42Speaker 3: and FYI it is not a bit of roses. And
- 18:45Speaker 3: I mean that's true. We talk to our Australia correspondent
- 18:47Speaker 3: all the time about, particularly in the Northern Territory, about
- 18:51Speaker 3: the crime rate over there. Good morning Ryan. This is
- 18:54Speaker 3: from a different perspective. I live with a veteran police officer.
- 18:57Speaker 3: His choice of job was always of okay, he genuinely
- 19:01Speaker 3: wanted to serve. His view has changed based on the
- 19:04Speaker 3: six years where police were used by Labor to enforce
- 19:07Speaker 3: ineffective borders around Auckland during COVID, faced with rising crime
- 19:11Speaker 3: and increasing violence due to Labour's soft on crime policies
- 19:15Speaker 3: and gang afflictions. And worst of all, they were prosecuted
- 19:18Speaker 3: by their own when things didn't go to plan. So
- 19:21Speaker 3: lots of different views on that, but overwhelmingly I'd have
- 19:24Speaker 3: to say people are saying, well, it's not that bad.
- 19:27Speaker 3: I mean, at least it's keeping up with inflation. Twenty
- 19:29Speaker 3: two minutes away from six Ryan Bridge, Calum Proctor is
- 19:33Speaker 3: with us in Dunedin this morning. Our reporters wrapped Calm.
- 19:36Speaker 3: Good morning. The Waitaki District Council is changing its public
- 19:40Speaker 3: dog regulations.
- 19:43Speaker 11: Yeah, morning Ryan, it's following in Dnedan's footsteps here accepting
- 19:46Speaker 11: submissions on its draft dog control policy and by law,
- 19:50Speaker 11: and I like to need in up proposing to allow
- 19:52Speaker 11: dogs in Omoru commercial areas when leashed, as well as
- 19:56Speaker 11: some other public spaces where they haven't been allowed up
- 19:58Speaker 11: until now. Maya Garry Curtis says it's in response to
- 20:01Speaker 11: criticism that they have been too harsh in their dog restrictions.
- 20:05Speaker 11: He's hopeful that these amendments will free it up for
- 20:07Speaker 11: dog owners while still keep people and other animals safe
- 20:10Speaker 11: and public. Have until August twelfth to have their saleness.
- 20:13Speaker 3: So at the moment you can't walk a dog, even
- 20:15Speaker 3: on a lead in a commercial area.
- 20:17Speaker 11: It's correct, yep, Samon Dunedan around the octagon and our
- 20:20Speaker 11: main shopping area. But looks like that's all about to
- 20:23Speaker 11: change for Daneedan and Omaru.
- 20:25Speaker 3: And how will the weather be for Indonedan for a
- 20:27Speaker 3: dog walk today?
- 20:28Speaker 11: Are not the best? Cloudy occasional rain eleven the high today.
- 20:32Speaker 3: Thanks callum Emily ansels in christ Church this morning. And
- 20:35Speaker 3: there is a Catholic order that's had its authority stripped. Emily.
- 20:40Speaker 12: Yeah, this has happened after an investigation into allegations of
- 20:44Speaker 12: unauthorized exorcisms and spiritual and psychological abuse. Priests for the
- 20:50Speaker 12: Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer were preaching from a
- 20:52Speaker 12: Saint Auban's chapel, but they've now been banned from practicing
- 20:56Speaker 12: and told to leave the city's diocese after seventeen people
- 21:00Speaker 12: raised concerns. Priests have been accused of tying people up
- 21:03Speaker 12: during exorcisms, screaming at them for hours, and performing the
- 21:07Speaker 12: practice on young children. The group's leaders, fathers Michael and
- 21:11Speaker 12: Anthony Mary, deny claims against them of manipulating, controlling their
- 21:16Speaker 12: followers and interfering in the lives of families.
- 21:20Speaker 3: Were today Emily rain.
- 21:22Speaker 12: Easing to showers this morning, then clearing to find spouse
- 21:24Speaker 12: early after no northeasterly is dying out this morning with
- 21:27Speaker 12: a high of twelve degrees.
- 21:28Speaker 3: Thank you very much to Wellington. We go now the
- 21:30Speaker 3: capital with max toll and illegal shambles over the council's
- 21:34Speaker 3: parking changes their max. That's right.
- 21:37Speaker 10: The city Council has been going around the CBD tachingweight
- 21:40Speaker 10: car parks, putting in cycle lanes. Thornton Key has been
- 21:43Speaker 10: a particularly divisive area. A lot of businesses along that
- 21:46Speaker 10: street that rely on people parking, briefly lots of cafes,
- 21:49Speaker 10: homeware stores. Court of Appeal has now found the council
- 21:53Speaker 10: didn't meet its legal obligations. It didn't comply with the
- 21:56Speaker 10: Local Government Act, didn't consider all options when it lasted
- 22:00Speaker 10: ahead with these cycle lanes, and you know, blasted ahead
- 22:03Speaker 10: is a completely fair term. Businesses were given less than
- 22:05Speaker 10: a week to prepare for a year's worth of disruption.
- 22:08Speaker 10: Businesses don't feel like anyone's listening to them. Foot traffic
- 22:11Speaker 10: is way way down. And this is also the street
- 22:13Speaker 10: the council tore up for fifty five million dollars before
- 22:16Speaker 10: realizing must do. Pipework lies beneath it, so if these
- 22:20Speaker 10: water leaks continue they're just going to have to tear
- 22:22Speaker 10: it up all over again.
- 22:24Speaker 3: Goodness mate, And if you complain what you just get
- 22:26Speaker 3: Julia and Genta coming around and in the face. That's
- 22:29Speaker 3: all right, the g lug Yeah, all right. Max Wellington's
- 22:32Speaker 3: weather today.
- 22:34Speaker 10: Rain this morning, but easing and clearing by this afternoon,
- 22:37Speaker 10: fourteen the high Central.
- 22:38Speaker 3: Thanks Max, right, it is nineteen away from Sex and
- 22:41Speaker 3: we've got never ready mineer here in our Auckland studio.
- 22:44Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Auckland Transport. What's going on?
- 22:47Speaker 6: Well, yes, you're gonna be outraged this Ryan. Now it's
- 22:50Speaker 6: being revealed that Auckland Transport's top boss, Now he was
- 22:53Speaker 6: heading an engineering consultancy firm given eighty contract while he
- 22:58Speaker 6: was in the job. Dean Kimpton, who who became eighty
- 23:00Speaker 6: chief executive. Now this was April twenty twenty three, was
- 23:04Speaker 6: the director of the engineering firm Blue Barn Consulting until
- 23:07Speaker 6: late last months. Now an eighty spokesman says, between Kimpton
- 23:12Speaker 6: starting the job in January this year, Blue Barn was
- 23:15Speaker 6: awarded twenty contracts. Now these contracts were worth more than
- 23:18Speaker 6: eight hundred thousand dollars. So what we do know the
- 23:22Speaker 6: board was fully aware of this and appropriate protocols they're
- 23:26Speaker 6: being now put in place. Wayne Brown walk and Mea says.
- 23:29Speaker 6: The situation obviously not a good luck.
- 23:31Speaker 3: So no, it doesn't. It doesn't sound good baity, it
- 23:35Speaker 3: doesn't even if they've got protocols in place. And how
- 23:37Speaker 3: did we find out about this? Well, from page to
- 23:39Speaker 3: the Hero.
- 23:40Speaker 6: To the Herald, that's right, and you can get more
- 23:42Speaker 6: on that by checking out their website. Now I've got
- 23:45Speaker 6: to say Ryan, just quickly the desk. Did they not
- 23:48Speaker 6: tell you that you had to clean when your first
- 23:49Speaker 6: walked in? Or Mike Costco, we'll have to have words.
- 23:52Speaker 9: What's up?
- 23:52Speaker 6: Well, that's usually his job, is it?
- 23:54Speaker 9: Never?
- 23:55Speaker 3: It's actually only dirty on your side.
- 23:58Speaker 6: Right, so you boys, it's kind of your area and
- 24:01Speaker 6: not mine.
- 24:01Speaker 1: Okay, I'll remember up over here.
- 24:03Speaker 7: Yeh.
- 24:04Speaker 3: Never any money with us in with it?
- 24:06Speaker 6: Oh sorry, yes, yes, areas of blow cloud or folk.
- 24:09Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, isolated Charllesa might not be friends after
- 24:11Speaker 6: this seventeenth.
- 24:14Speaker 3: All right, it is seventeen away from sex. We're live
- 24:17Speaker 3: for Australia.
- 24:18Speaker 8: Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
- 24:24Speaker 8: mind for New Zealand business.
- 24:27Speaker 3: We live to Australia with our Australia correspondent, Donna Jamayo. Donna,
- 24:31Speaker 3: great to have you on the show. Voters swinging to Dutton.
- 24:34Speaker 3: This is a new sign of ants and it's all
- 24:36Speaker 3: to do with the economy.
- 24:38Speaker 7: Yes, the cost of living pressures are really taking their
- 24:40Speaker 7: toll on Australian said, we've got a resolve. Poll findings
- 24:44Speaker 7: have been released today and we're hearing that voters have
- 24:47Speaker 7: pretty much lifted the Coalition to another high. According to
- 24:50Speaker 7: this poll, support for Opposition leader Peter Dutton.
- 24:53Speaker 2: On the increase.
- 24:54Speaker 7: These new findings show fifty five percent of Australians expect
- 24:58Speaker 7: the national outlook to worsen. Primary vote Cobalition lifted thirty
- 25:02Speaker 7: six to thirty eight percent now and Labor is excuse me,
- 25:07Speaker 7: still sitting on twenty eight percent and that is the
- 25:10Speaker 7: lowest level since Anthony Albanesi it took power at the
- 25:13Speaker 7: last election in twenty twenty two. And if you look
- 25:16Speaker 7: at the pole findings, will preferred PM Peter Dutton thirty
- 25:19Speaker 7: five and Albanzi sitting on thirty four.
- 25:22Speaker 3: Which is a huge turnaround from even just a year ago,
- 25:25Speaker 3: right where it was twenty five forty six. So significant,
- 25:29Speaker 3: very very significant. Donald, Let's talk about this union and
- 25:33Speaker 3: the allegations of corruption. What's happening here.
- 25:36Speaker 7: So it's one of Australia's most powerful unions. It's the
- 25:39Speaker 7: Building Union of the Construction Union, and it could face
- 25:42Speaker 7: de registration. Allegations have been aired of alleged criminal links
- 25:47Speaker 7: within the cfmea used Victorian branch, and the fallout has
- 25:50Speaker 7: been swiss since his allegations aired on the weekend we've
- 25:53Speaker 7: heard from Industrial Relations Minister Tony Burke. Now he's asked
- 25:56Speaker 7: his department to advise him on ministerial powers. Now he's
- 26:00Speaker 7: responding to allegations such as bike were acting as union delegates,
- 26:03Speaker 7: other claims that there were links between organized crime and
- 26:07Speaker 7: construction projects. Now he says he finds the allegations abhorrent.
- 26:12Speaker 7: The Victorian Premier sint Alan says she has deep discussed
- 26:17Speaker 7: in regard to the alleged behavior and is grappling with
- 26:20Speaker 7: the thuggish and rotten behavior that we are hearing about
- 26:23Speaker 7: and there's no place for it in Victoria. And we've
- 26:26Speaker 7: also heard from the national union body, the ACTU. Sally
- 26:29Speaker 7: mcmanor says that investigation will be set up and Albanezi,
- 26:35Speaker 7: our PM, says more action is needed because we actually
- 26:38Speaker 7: had the Victorian branch of the CFMAU placed into administration
- 26:42Speaker 7: yesterday last Friday. The boss of the VICCFMU, John Secka,
- 26:47Speaker 7: he resigned and naturally he's denying any wrongdoing.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Naturally. Donod Demayer in Australia our Australia correspondent at twelve away.
- 26:55Speaker 2: From Sex Bryan Bridge.
- 26:57Speaker 3: The Republican National Convention starts today in will Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
- 27:01Speaker 3: And this comes just a couple of days after the
- 27:04Speaker 3: former President Trump was shot at in an assassination attempt.
- 27:08Speaker 3: A couple of things happening that you need to be
- 27:10Speaker 3: aware of today. He is tipped to pick his vice president,
- 27:14Speaker 3: well not his vice president, but his running mate to
- 27:17Speaker 3: be vice president. So he's tipped to pick his and
- 27:20Speaker 3: announce his vice president. Also, this classified documents case that
- 27:25Speaker 3: has been plaguing the former president has just been dismissed
- 27:29Speaker 3: by a Florida judge joining us. Ira Spitzer, the FSN correspondent, Ira,
- 27:34Speaker 3: Great to have you on the program. Let's start with
- 27:36Speaker 3: the VP pick. When do we think this is going
- 27:39Speaker 3: to happen? What do we know?
- 27:43Speaker 5: Well, here in Milwaukee, there's definitely a real palpable sense
- 27:47Speaker 5: of excitement today with that news revealed by Donald Trump
- 27:52Speaker 5: himself earlier in the day that he will name a
- 27:56Speaker 5: running mate for his upcoming campaign. We don't know exactly
- 28:00Speaker 5: when that's going to happen. The convention will proceed into
- 28:04Speaker 5: the sort of later hours of the evening, so at
- 28:06Speaker 5: some point we will expect to hear who that person is.
- 28:12Speaker 5: He's apparently narrowed it down to four finalists, so presumably
- 28:18Speaker 5: it will be one of those four people. Jd Vance,
- 28:21Speaker 5: the Senator from Ohio with so many a lot of
- 28:24Speaker 5: people are talking about that he could be a likely pick.
- 28:29Speaker 5: He's one of those four finalists as well as Senator
- 28:31Speaker 5: Marco Rivio from Florida, Senator Tim Scott from North Carolina,
- 28:35Speaker 5: and Governor Doug Burgham from North Dakota. So yeah, it's
- 28:40Speaker 5: going to be a huge, huge news of course when
- 28:42Speaker 5: that happens. And there's just been huge news of course
- 28:44Speaker 5: for the last few days with the attempted assassination of
- 28:48Speaker 5: course just a couple of.
- 28:49Speaker 3: Days ago, and now we've got this classified documents case
- 28:53Speaker 3: being dismissed by a far to judge.
- 28:55Speaker 2: Does that have a big.
- 28:56Speaker 3: Impact on the election campaign, particularly for Biden, who's been
- 28:59Speaker 3: one thing to run this line that Trump is above
- 29:02Speaker 3: the law and he's a threat to democracy. Does this
- 29:05Speaker 3: have a big impact.
- 29:08Speaker 5: Well, it's definitely good news for Donald Trump both legally,
- 29:13Speaker 5: although there was this this case was almost certainly not
- 29:16Speaker 5: going to go to trial before the election. But I
- 29:19Speaker 5: think you kind of hit on something there which is
- 29:21Speaker 5: from a perception standpoint, the fact that this judge in Florida,
- 29:26Speaker 5: Eileen Cannon, who was appointed by by by Trump. The
- 29:30Speaker 5: fact that she sort of threw out the case saying
- 29:33Speaker 5: that the you know, the appointment of the special prosecutor
- 29:36Speaker 5: who was investigating this by the Justice Department, thing that
- 29:39Speaker 5: was unconstitutional. So from the perception of uh, you know Trump,
- 29:46Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, it was you know, the
- 29:47Speaker 5: convicted Sellon was was the tagline that a lot of
- 29:51Speaker 5: Democrats were using for Trump. But now I think having
- 29:54Speaker 5: this case at least thrown out shift that narrative in
- 29:58Speaker 5: a way that is favorable for Trump. So it's been
- 30:01Speaker 5: a you could say, a good few days for Trump,
- 30:04Speaker 5: although the fact that he was almost killed makes it
- 30:07Speaker 5: hard to truly say that. But in terms of just
- 30:10Speaker 5: just a momentum here for Donald Trump, surviving that attack,
- 30:14Speaker 5: having that that historic photo op that that came after
- 30:19Speaker 5: the bullet narrowly missed him or didn't even miss him,
- 30:22Speaker 5: it hit his ear apparently, but surviving that attack, and
- 30:26Speaker 5: then now having some legal problems resolved at least for now.
- 30:30Speaker 5: There will be an appeal, but resolved for now, it
- 30:33Speaker 5: is certainly a good news for the former president.
- 30:36Speaker 3: You're listening to Iras Spitzer, who's if it's ins correspondent
- 30:40Speaker 3: at the Republican National Convention in Wisconsin. Just before you
- 30:43Speaker 3: go a security wise, is it a safe place for Trump?
- 30:50Speaker 5: Well, it's there's it's certainly a tremendous level of security
- 30:55Speaker 5: here as you would as would always have been the
- 30:59Speaker 5: case with the republic National Convention. One significant difference between
- 31:04Speaker 5: the proceedings here and that rally in Western Pennsylvania where
- 31:09Speaker 5: where he was almost assassinated. As to even enter these
- 31:14Speaker 5: grounds you have to be vetted. So anyone with some
- 31:18Speaker 5: sort of plot would have had to have been planning
- 31:21Speaker 5: this for a while. It's not something that somebody would
- 31:24Speaker 5: easily be able to just come to with the intention
- 31:27Speaker 5: of carrying out some sort of harm or attack. So
- 31:31Speaker 5: hopefully it is a safe place to be Ara.
- 31:34Speaker 3: Thanks for you, Tom Iras Spitzer, if this End's correspondent
- 31:37Speaker 3: at the Republican National Convention and Wisconsin this morning. It
- 31:40Speaker 3: is eight away from six. Mic costing next.
- 31:44Speaker 8: The first word on the News of the Day early
- 31:47Speaker 8: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
- 31:51Speaker 8: bids and applying store news Talk Cippy.
- 31:54Speaker 3: Five to six. Mike Hosking in the studio, the mic
- 31:57Speaker 3: hosting breakfast starts in a little over five minute. It's time, Mike,
- 32:01Speaker 3: I heard you talking about Donald Trump's shoes yesterday. Yes,
- 32:04Speaker 3: you know, when he was shot.
- 32:06Speaker 13: The question you wanted answered, wasn't it? Wasn't that the
- 32:08Speaker 13: question you wanted answered? And nobody asked the questions.
- 32:10Speaker 9: Think about it.
- 32:11Speaker 13: Guy goes down, he's been shot. And then as they
- 32:14Speaker 13: get up and the security services are all over and
- 32:16Speaker 13: going are you ready to move on?
- 32:18Speaker 4: Three?
- 32:18Speaker 13: Let's go, go go, he goes, wait, let me get
- 32:21Speaker 13: my shoes.
- 32:22Speaker 3: And he says it three times exactly, so he's actually
- 32:25Speaker 3: come out and said what happened? He said, the agent's
- 32:27Speaker 3: hit me so hard. That's the secret Service. Agent's hit
- 32:29Speaker 3: me so hard that my shoes fell off. And my
- 32:32Speaker 3: shoes are tight. How did your shoes fall off?
- 32:35Speaker 13: Far be it from me to go down the conspiracy theory,
- 32:38Speaker 13: because there are so many conspiracies out there at the moment.
- 32:41Speaker 13: But first of all, they didn't hit him. He ducked,
- 32:44Speaker 13: and then they got on top of them. So he
- 32:47Speaker 13: lost his shoes going down as he ducked, which means
- 32:50Speaker 13: he's wearing unbelievably loose shoes, isn't he.
- 32:54Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, think about it. He says, my shoes are tight.
- 32:57Speaker 3: I think he takes them off to speak.
- 32:59Speaker 5: Do you think he does?
- 33:00Speaker 3: I think that's what happened.
- 33:01Speaker 9: Why would he do that?
- 33:02Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Maybe it's more comfortable. Is that
- 33:04Speaker 3: what it is?
- 33:05Speaker 13: Because he wears lace ups. The important thing that the
- 33:07Speaker 13: lace ups they're not velcrode.
- 33:09Speaker 3: No, true, not like by it unless.
- 33:10Speaker 13: They lace isn't there's a vel crow underneath?
- 33:14Speaker 3: What's what's on the big show?
- 33:15Speaker 13: Yeah, we'll talk about the police. And I think this
- 33:17Speaker 13: a bit is an elegant solution this whole thing. Why
- 33:20Speaker 13: they Why would you talk for a year so it
- 33:22Speaker 13: becomes obvious after a year you're not going to get on.
- 33:25Speaker 13: You don't agree, so go off to an arbitrator and
- 33:27Speaker 13: of course you know the police don't like him. I
- 33:29Speaker 13: understand all of that. But at the end of the day,
- 33:30Speaker 13: that's the that's the way to say the listings, doesn't
- 33:32Speaker 13: it going from somebody and go there your case case
- 33:34Speaker 13: case B. I decide here's your answer. That isn't that?
- 33:38Speaker 13: So anyway, we'll talk to the police association about that.
- 33:40Speaker 3: Because obviously happy Mike hosking with you coming up next.
- 33:44Speaker 3: I'm Ryan Bridge. Great to be with you this morning,
- 33:47Speaker 3: I will see you tomorrow.
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