Latest / The Chris and Mike Show / #154 - Devilz by Definition
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- 0:05Here we go, and we're live. Here we go.
- 0:08Welcome to YouTube and Twitchers.
- 0:10Yeah, we're going to rock out a little bit just because we can.
- 0:50Sometimes I just can't. I can't turn it off, man.
- 0:54I like it, you know. I hurt my feelings, Andy.
- 0:56Coming. Here we go.
- 0:58That's all right. There you go, boys and girls,
- 1:02Chris and Mike. So we're here with three guys
- 1:03from Devils. By definition.
- 1:06We got the Pitbull pops and crazy COO.
- 1:08What are you guys doing this morning, man?
- 1:13What is? What's?
- 1:14Going on brother, just all about working my day job.
- 1:19Don't. Don't we all have day jobs, you
- 1:21know? Understand that.
- 1:22This. Is not a day job.
- 1:26Cool, so give. Us from left to right.
- 1:30Pitbull, What is your What do you do in the band?
- 1:33Oh, I'm not part of the band. I manage the band.
- 1:35I'm the label owner, the marketer, the I'm the
- 1:38everything. I'm the guy who wear.
- 1:40That's why we're happy you're here bro.
- 1:42Every. Exactly.
- 1:43Here man, I get paid to tell them what to do.
- 1:48We we love this. I just literally told a friend
- 1:51of mine the other day we started the band and we still had
- 1:55bosses. Actually, we had more bosses
- 1:57than we do at a regular job. So boys and girls, you don't get
- 2:02to be the boss even though you start the band.
- 2:04What do you do, Pops? I'm a roofer, I own a roofing
- 2:07company. What do you do in the band?
- 2:11Play guitar. OK.
- 2:15He's only the foul. He's only he's only the founding
- 2:19member. All this is playing guitar.
- 2:21Founding member. He stands there and looks sexy a
- 2:24lot. Guitar player, I'm with your
- 2:27brother. I widdly diddly occasionally.
- 2:29What do you do, Crazy COO? Me, I'm the vocalist, guitar
- 2:34player and Co producer. I should have known you were the
- 2:38vocalist by the hat. I've only read just recently
- 2:41started wearing this hat actually.
- 2:43We were actually just shooting the video for Devil's Night, and
- 2:48at the place we were shooting, I found a bunch of prop hats and
- 2:51stuff and I put it on my head. And while we were in full
- 2:53costume, everything I came out and Bruce just looked at me and
- 2:56he's like, OK, so that's the thing from now on.
- 3:00So it's got to find the right one.
- 3:04This one's good. I like it, but it's it's it's
- 3:06too tall. I need I need a little, a little
- 3:09bit. No, the only thing we need on
- 3:11that is the devil's logo, The brand new logo.
- 3:14We need that right in the middle, and that will complete
- 3:16it. Keep it tall, keep it cool, be
- 3:19loud. You're the vocalist, man.
- 3:21Just yeah. From one vocalist to another.
- 3:25Yes, yes, yes. The vocalist is the one.
- 3:28Is this a logo we're talking about?
- 3:30Is this a new? Logo the old one.
- 3:32No, that old logo, that's the old one.
- 3:34I need to fix that that's. The old one.
- 3:36That's ten years ago. It's the one on the FAR.
- 3:39Right at the top to the right. Right here.
- 3:42This one right here. Yes, there.
- 3:44That one. Yeah, 'cause I that's good,
- 3:46'cause I just put that up on the YouTube page for Chris and Mike
- 3:49show, so I got the right one. See you on the page The
- 3:52Evolution of the Logos. Yeah, we've been around.
- 3:58Yeah, I really like this one a lot.
- 4:01Oh, really? Right on they.
- 4:02Have they have and they just needed someone to come along and
- 4:06light the fire for them? And so that was you.
- 4:10That was you. You lit the fire there, Pitbull.
- 4:12Oh. Yes Sir, I, I, I run through
- 4:14walls. Walls do not stop me.
- 4:16My head bust through so many walls man.
- 4:20You're like Cam Scatterboo from the New York Giants then, right?
- 4:23Just just blow your head and go. It's.
- 4:25There I tell people all the time, you might want to stand
- 4:29out of my way or I will run right through you.
- 4:32That's why they call me the pit bull.
- 4:35Listen, man, that's the guy that you want.
- 4:37If you're in the band, you want that guy talking to the people
- 4:40who are going to be saying, Nah, we don't want these guys playing
- 4:43here. We want that guy.
- 4:45Exactly, Exactly, motherfucker. That's the attitude you got to
- 4:48have, man. And that's why we call him the
- 4:51Pitbull. Fucking right.
- 4:52I don't know where he is on your screen, but somewhere over
- 4:57there. Well, everybody just keeps
- 4:58bouncing around on my screen, so I'm just, I'm just watching the
- 5:01yeah. Yeah.
- 5:03So, yeah, so, so as as we do this, especially the bands, I
- 5:07like to share the screen because I like to show your stuff as we
- 5:09have the conversation. So as you can see, I'm on your
- 5:12Facebook page now. So, you know, we're just, you're
- 5:15going to see these things just kind of cycle through as we have
- 5:17the conversation. And then we're going to make
- 5:19sure we tell everybody where you're at, where you're coming
- 5:21from, what you're doing, what's on the docket for 2026, all the
- 5:25things, because it's all about the rock and.
- 5:27Roll man. So taking away Mike, I know you
- 5:30love talking to musicians, while I'll just.
- 5:32Navigate to the. Page and and there you go,
- 5:34brother. Go ahead, Mike.
- 5:39Fire away dude. So you guys got a new album
- 5:41coming out or is it out already? I listened to a couple songs on
- 5:44Facebook or Instagram, one or the other.
- 5:47Is that album out or is it coming out?
- 5:50Devil's Night, we are releasing the entire album on the 6th of
- 5:54June 2026. But we have a release strategy
- 5:59in place that's going to blow everyone away.
- 6:02We've got music videos, we've got singles coming out, we've
- 6:05got multiple releases per month. It's going to be, it's going to
- 6:09be a really fun time leading up to this.
- 6:12And then and then next year we're going, we're going places.
- 6:18OK, so we're. Going kind of talk to us a
- 6:21little bit about that. You know, obviously in this
- 6:24case, we don't like authors to give away their book, but you
- 6:26got an album coming out. So give away your release
- 6:29strategy so people can follow along as this goes along.
- 6:32I like this idea a lot. It it has been posted publicly
- 6:35on our Facebook so. Let me go ahead and pull it up
- 6:39and I'll read it off to him if. I got your.
- 6:41I got, I got, I got your Facebook up.
- 6:43Right now, tell him where to go. We can share it right here on
- 6:45the show. It was I'm on your Facebook.
- 6:47One one of the pit bulls posts from probably 2 weeks ago.
- 6:51He has it it up for us. I I got the release strategy
- 6:55right here. So on October 30th, we released
- 6:59Devil's Night, the track on Devil Night.
- 7:01I listen to that. It was a.
- 7:03Fitting A fitting night to release it because of the title
- 7:06on tomorrow. It's tomorrow actually at 10 AM
- 7:12we're releasing the video for Devil's Night.
- 7:15So like that playing tomorrow morning at 10 AM, on November
- 7:2125th we released Angel Warfare and then on December 12th we're
- 7:26going to release the Angel Warfare video.
- 7:29On December 30th we'll release Food Fight, and then on January
- 7:3416th we'll release the video for Food Fight.
- 7:37February 10th we'll release Train Wreck, and then on March
- 7:413rd we'll release the video for Train Wreck.
- 7:44April 2nd we will release Liquid Death and May 1st we will
- 7:48release the video for Liquid Death.
- 7:51And then on June 6th, 2026, who released the full album with a
- 7:56bonus feature of a trilogy video that tells the story of Devil's
- 8:02Night. It's going to be like a 20
- 8:03minute video I believe, but awesome.
- 8:07Yeah, it sounds like that. He's got a whole lot lined up
- 8:09for this band. Plus they have a 56 show tour in
- 8:13Canada scheduled for 2026 with what is it 2-3 festivals. 3
- 8:20festivals, more and more. Keep throwing them.
- 8:22Sick of them as we go, yeah. So far, yeah. 3 so far.
- 8:29That's awesome, man. That's very awesome.
- 8:33I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get one of your things up here
- 8:35to show the world. So where did you record this
- 8:39album at? Did you go into a professional
- 8:41studio? Do you guys have a home studio?
- 8:45It's a friend's home studio that's been for a really long
- 8:49time. We've been going to him since
- 8:52the beginning. His name's Eric Gurney.
- 8:54He's got like a full pro setup but it is just the basement of
- 8:57his house and it's fucking awesome.
- 9:00Yeah, OK. Well.
- 9:01Shout Out has come a long way. I have been recording with him
- 9:05and previous bands since I was 861718 years old.
- 9:11I'm 36 now so that's a long time ago.
- 9:13That's 20 years ago. So this guy.
- 9:15Well, shout out, this guy's wonderful.
- 9:20We call him the. Wizard audio sounds great, Yeah,
- 9:23now for a sound. Studio recording.
- 9:25When I got this album, when they sent it to me, I didn't know it
- 9:28was produced in a home studio. I was like this.
- 9:31This is that. That's why I asked the.
- 9:32Question. Great because normally home
- 9:34studio recordings are very muddy.
- 9:39Yeah. The one thing that I found, man,
- 9:41is it just it all depends. It's like the player it all, it
- 9:46all depends on the person who's operating the gear, right.
- 9:50I've seen guys do incredible things with way less gear than a
- 9:55pro studio has just because they understand what the finished
- 9:58product needs to sound like. And that's why I asked the
- 10:01question, because when I cranked it up through my surround
- 10:03system, it sounds like you guys went into Criteria Studios in
- 10:08Miami or something, you know, one of these big studios.
- 10:11So kudos to the guy that recorded it.
- 10:13That's why I asked the question. Eric will love to hear that
- 10:16brother. I will definitely share that
- 10:17with him. Thank you because that means a
- 10:21lot to me. The engineer can ruin a great
- 10:23song. I mean a Banton ruin a great
- 10:26engineer too. That's true.
- 10:29That's true. That is true.
- 10:30That is true. Again, honestly, because he's
- 10:35progressed with us, so he's known for the last 15 years what
- 10:38we're supposed to sound like. It shows right on.
- 10:44It really shows who does your video work.
- 10:51He's playing one of your videos in the background here.
- 10:53This is a teaser. This is the teaser of Devil's
- 10:56Night, right guys? Yeah, that's the trailer.
- 10:59So that that. Trailer.
- 11:00I'm sorry, I call them T the same thing, yeah.
- 11:02That's a local up and coming team from Windsor that consists
- 11:07of 3/3 fellas called HI Multimedia and they actually
- 11:12started out with me like 2 years ago shooting commercials for my
- 11:16roofing company and they've shifted their focus since then
- 11:21to making sure that the world knows how badass we are.
- 11:25So the all of the music videos. That's so cool man.
- 11:28All of the music videos we're shooting for this album are all
- 11:33going to be done through them. Nice.
- 11:37Well, shout out to those guys too, man, because your imagery
- 11:42so far from what I've seen really, that's what got me to
- 11:45start following you guys before we ever contacted you or wanted,
- 11:49you know, the mutual wanting to be on the show.
- 11:52However that went down, I started following you guys
- 11:55because your imagery caught my eye.
- 11:56I was like, what is this, you know?
- 11:58That's how I, that's, that's, that's how I found them because
- 12:01I, I, I saw you on something and then I reached out to you and
- 12:04says, Hey, let's get you on the show.
- 12:05And then, you know, here we are. But because Mike and I are big
- 12:08believers and, and you got to have the music for sure.
- 12:10And the music got to be able to stand on its own.
- 12:14But image is everything in this world.
- 12:16So you have to have something, you know, Guns and Roses
- 12:19wouldn't be Guns and Roses, right?
- 12:20Without Slash, with axles, teased hair and welcome to the
- 12:22jungle, and should have just, you know, an Izzy and Hiszle.
- 12:25It just wouldn't have worked. You'd be like, yeah, you know
- 12:27what I'm saying? So you know Kiss wouldn't be
- 12:29Kiss without their makeup, right?
- 12:30You don't want. Music makes you picture those
- 12:33images. You don't want not sponsor.
- 12:36Guys, well, I strongly feel though, go ahead, Bruce.
- 12:41Sorry, go ahead, Pops. There's a, there's a, there's a
- 12:44lag. It's all good.
- 12:48Come on, Pops. Come on, pops.
- 12:54Oh fuck, can't remember what I was going to say.
- 12:55Fuck. Jesus He.
- 12:57Said you strongly feel something.
- 12:59I mean, I have two feelings left for the both trying to kill each
- 13:02other, so I don't know what that means but.
- 13:09Fuck. Never mind, it'll come back to
- 13:10me later. Fuck.
- 13:11Jesus, I was, I was going to say that's what she said when you
- 13:14said you had a strong feeling of something.
- 13:15But don't bump. She does that a lot.
- 13:22She. Right as my mic just fell down.
- 13:26We got five guys who played heavy metal and rock'n'roll for
- 13:3030 years. It's going to get fun.
- 13:33It's going to get all right. It's already fun.
- 13:35So. Let's talk about like, how do
- 13:38yeah. So how did you guys, how did you
- 13:39guys all come together? What you know, like Mike and I
- 13:41have our come together story, right?
- 13:43The origin of of what we did and how we were and and that kind of
- 13:46jazz. What about you guys?
- 13:46How did you all come together as a band and create this?
- 13:49What's going to take over the world next year?
- 13:53Well, that's a really good fucking story.
- 13:58If you if you'd like to read that entire story, it is
- 14:01available on our website. It is the four page essay.
- 14:06Readers. Give us the elevator if.
- 14:09You want to give the Readers Digest version.
- 14:11Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah. Long story short, we've been
- 14:17through 12 line up changes that I can remember off the top of my
- 14:22head since our inception. Like right since the oh,
- 14:27something's been trying to stop me from doing this, and every
- 14:30time something stops I just shift directions and keep going.
- 14:35Jamie came to me like 10 years ago as a bass player originally,
- 14:40and he's just kind of by necessity shifted his way up
- 14:44through the ranks Teddy Teddy's been with.
- 14:48I was happy and content being the hit player.
- 14:51You shut up, Teddy. Teddy came along just after the
- 14:58devolution and he's been with us ever since.
- 15:00To we, we literally dragged his poor ass out of retirement.
- 15:05He was doing nothing just like enjoying not having a tour and
- 15:09do all the bullshit and we suckered him back in and then
- 15:13cool stuff. We we literally just picked up
- 15:16in the last eight months. I mean, as far as other past
- 15:22members and stuff that that you're going to have to go
- 15:24really to vote because that's a long story, but that's the long
- 15:28and the short of how this particular grouping came
- 15:30together. So as Kuve mentioned, I'm I'm
- 15:33the only original member. I'm the founding member of the
- 15:36band. Oh, I do have.
- 15:39The hero of members of the band. Add part of this origin story
- 15:42because this is the most impressive part of the origin
- 15:45story in my opinion. Bruce learned how to play guitar
- 15:50by playing Guitar Hero. OK, after playing Guitar Hero,
- 15:55his inspiration to start the most phenomenal band on the
- 15:59planet is what sparked. I think that's very important
- 16:03for people to understand because that's that's his fucking
- 16:07awesome dude. That is awesome.
- 16:10You know what that means for all the listeners at home who love
- 16:13playing Guitar Hero? You guys can just pick up the
- 16:17guitar someday and just Start learning.
- 16:20If you're inspired, just do it. Just try because.
- 16:23You already can do it already. Have the melody.
- 16:26Yeah, you already have the melody ingrained in your head.
- 16:29That's the part you don't understand.
- 16:31You just need to figure out how to move the right way on a real
- 16:35guitar, right? You got to pull the melody out
- 16:37of you. Yeah, and that's the hard part.
- 16:41That's the part people don't understand is those games
- 16:44actually help way more than people realize.
- 16:47Science has proven it. It's not.
- 16:49You didn't get lucky. And you're right.
- 16:51Any of those kids who mastered Guitar Hero could pick up a
- 16:54guitar and learn how to play it fairly quickly.
- 16:57They just don't realize it. Yeah.
- 17:00And on how many? Other guys.
- 17:02Did well on that note, did you know the Duolingo the the the
- 17:06learn another language app? You can learn how to play chess
- 17:09and the piano as an alternative. Yes, really, really.
- 17:12Right on. I did right on that.
- 17:14I'm actually, I'm actually learning a bunch of different
- 17:17languages right now, Chinese, Spanish, Russian.
- 17:21I'm just, I'm just picking away at all these different languages
- 17:25just because I want to. And it's been, it's been fun.
- 17:27I actually really like that app. Yeah, and I like the fact you
- 17:31can learn how to play chess and piano because.
- 17:32Who would have thought it was? I I got yeah, I needed a break.
- 17:36And she was like, you know, you can play how to play piano and
- 17:39and I'm like, no shit. So there you.
- 17:40Know what I find fascinating? What's that?
- 17:43That my study of human nature just never lets me down.
- 17:46We got 2 singers here who both use Duolingo and we have two
- 17:50guitar players who are like, yeah, whatever, we're just going
- 17:53to go jam over here. Me and Pops, we're just like,
- 18:00yeah, OK. I just find it fascinating that
- 18:03we just met you guys. We have two singers right here
- 18:06and both of them are like, yeah, we used Duolingo.
- 18:08I'm learning multiple languages right now.
- 18:10Chris is you learning Spanish and Pop Snyder?
- 18:13We're just going to go jam. To be able to like, go to Mexico
- 18:20and think Devil's Night in Spanish, you know?
- 18:23What I. Mean hang on, maybe, maybe say
- 18:27hello, How are you? Yes, that that part of it's
- 18:32cool. So when you said that, how
- 18:33would? Language be able to say hello,
- 18:36how are you in every language and every place that we travel
- 18:39to? That would not warms my heart
- 18:42when I see a singer that doesn't speak English.
- 18:44Fucking say stuff, right? Yeah, yeah, agreed.
- 18:48I absolutely agree. That's the first thing came to
- 18:50my mind. Crazy Coup is, hey, I'm going to
- 18:52learn all these different languages because I'm a singer,
- 18:54so I can be up there and say whatever I want to the crowd
- 18:56we're in front of because I learned it on the app.
- 18:59Yep. Very cool, just think.
- 19:03That's awesome. It is and and most everywhere
- 19:08you go you need to be able to say where is the bathroom.
- 19:12Right donde esta a banyo. Got Banyo.
- 19:16See. Cerveza por favor, That's the
- 19:20other one. Don't.
- 19:22I can I can conversational Spanish.
- 19:24Don't cerveza. Yeah, yeah.
- 19:27Mine's mine. Mine's no ma cervais, no ma
- 19:30cerveis muimal. Speaking, Speaking of Cerveis,
- 19:33as to the track that's coming out that we're releasing in
- 19:37April, I believe you said it was Eric for Liquid Death.
- 19:40That's that song I actually wrote.
- 19:44Yeah, I actually wrote that song about my alcoholism and the
- 19:49battles with alcohol. That's I've been clean 11 years
- 19:54now from alcohol now, not a drop.
- 19:56So that's. 7583, yeah, 7583 days.
- 20:02There's my 20 year chip. See, here's something that I'm
- 20:06seeing here. How do you music?
- 20:08I thought it's a lot of bad habits because of music.
- 20:11This whole thing with music, it makes you want to quit all of
- 20:15your bad habits and focus it on the energy of creating something
- 20:19instead of destroying. Because I mean, that's what we
- 20:22did when we had bad habits. I've I've had bad habits that
- 20:25I've been clean up for since like 2012.
- 20:27You know what I mean? So I'm saying a, a thing here
- 20:30and and it's all music. Music Dave Bro lives.
- 20:35Now this is going to this is this is this is going to blow
- 20:38your mind. So you wrote a song about
- 20:40alcoholism called Liquid Death, right?
- 20:43I wrote a song about alcoholism called Liquid Sin.
- 20:49True story, no? Bullshit, man.
- 20:53True. Swear to God, true story.
- 20:55Yeah, yeah, I'll send you the I'll send you.
- 20:57I'll send you the link after the show.
- 20:58But yeah, liquid sin, I'd love to.
- 20:59Hear about it? Absolutely.
- 21:00That's. Awesome.
- 21:03I think. Yeah.
- 21:06Yeah. Say it again, people.
- 21:09But maybe. We need to get from where on.
- 21:11Door with them in Canada next year.
- 21:15That would be fun. I'm in Arizona, Mike's in
- 21:18Illinois. Oh, nice.
- 21:19OK, cool brother. Nice.
- 21:22Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the beautiful thing about
- 21:24Riverside Platform, man. There's no boundaries, there's
- 21:27no borders. It's just, we've had people on
- 21:30from South Africa, from Australia, United Kingdom.
- 21:34It's just it, it's amazing what this, this, what this thing can
- 21:37do nowadays, man. It's legit, especially with
- 21:38musicians because you know, it's that makes us be able to like I
- 21:42told you guys from the get go, Fridays we leave for musicians.
- 21:45So we, we, that's why we have flexibility with timing and
- 21:47stuff because it's, you know, it's Mike has a day off and we
- 21:49can just say, OK, this is music day.
- 21:51So you know, it's legit like that for sure.
- 21:54So how many, how many albums you guys have you put out as a band?
- 22:01Starting from the beginning, you've got yeah, well, full
- 22:06albums. I believe I would only cost.
- 22:10It doesn't matter. It can be EPS, It can be EPS to
- 22:12albums. Oh, we have a we have a few EPS
- 22:16out. We have 2016.
- 22:20The Devolution is our most latest full length album.
- 22:24We did release in 2023. On November 10th we released The
- 22:28Lost Days, which is recordings that date back to 2010, 2011,
- 22:33and so there's some bonus things on there too.
- 22:36We released it because of the sudden death of our original
- 22:41guitar player, Matthew Dobbin the Alien.
- 22:44And we're actually on the new album we're actually going to be
- 22:46featuring. We have a track specifically
- 22:49featured called Alien for him. And it it, I swear to God, I
- 22:55started crying when when I heard the final product.
- 22:58And it was it's, you know, a lot of love.
- 23:01That's why we're all brothers. You know, when somebody passes
- 23:05that was an original. Remember, he wasn't an active
- 23:09member when he passed, but he still, man, he was still a good
- 23:13friend of ours and we loved him very much.
- 23:15And yeah. So that being said, we released
- 23:18The Lost Days and actually, actually it's good music if you
- 23:22want to take a listen to it. It's not as well produced as we
- 23:26we have now, but it's the original Devils and they were a
- 23:30crazy bunch of guys before I joined.
- 23:32OK, OK. We're going to we're going to
- 23:36bring this up a little bit. This is under the road.
- 23:41Yeah. YouTube shuts us down if I play
- 23:44this shit too long. So if if they shut us down,
- 23:47we're going to send you a request to approve it because
- 23:49you're on the show. But I want to I want to be able
- 23:52to showcase your music, which is why we do this.
- 23:55It is. It's fucked up again.
- 23:56They. All they use this content.
- 24:00Right. Yeah, they don't care.
- 24:02Yeah, we're. Going to end up having to send
- 24:04you an e-mail and with them and you'll have to prove it that
- 24:07way, but I love it. Dude, it's fucking right on.
- 24:13Oh man I haven't seen this video in a while.
- 24:15Fuck is my beard grown shit. I've been watching it for days.
- 24:20Bro I've heard this. Album go watch that this isn't
- 24:30and we're even for sure we're even releasing a new version of
- 24:34this song on the on the new album.
- 24:37Oh, right on. This was what when we had done
- 24:40this one. This was a single one off
- 24:41recording from a good friend of ours from Visceral Sound and he
- 24:45did it. He did a fantastic job.
- 24:47But when? And we wanted to feature the
- 24:48song on the album, but we didn't want to, we wanted to keep
- 24:52everything sounding the same. So we re recorded it with our,
- 24:55with our, our normal engineer, Eric Gurney.
- 24:58And man, it's, it's, it's even better.
- 25:01This, this one sounds good. It's even better.
- 25:05OK, I got a question. I got a question for you.
- 25:08Now I'm glad that Chris does this because it inspires me to
- 25:10ask questions. You guys are both you're playing
- 25:13rhythm and you're playing lead pops.
- 25:16Or how do you guys work your guitar lines?
- 25:18Do you guys both write your own things?
- 25:21Does Pop writes all the guitar and you do your version of what
- 25:25he writes or how do you guys work out the guitar parts is my
- 25:27question. Honestly, it's a lot of 5050.
- 25:35I love, I love to hear that. Yeah, we well, a lot of the
- 25:41times pops. Well, the the devolution was
- 25:44written before I joined the band.
- 25:46I helped rework. Like when I came in, I actually
- 25:49joined in as the bass player. I wrote all my bass parts and
- 25:54then I was switched to lead and then I wrote all new lead parts.
- 25:57So I have my creative flow through that album.
- 26:01But beyond that, like the new songs that came together, it was
- 26:05just like Bruce had a song that was already pretty much finished
- 26:09and I came up and helped them put it all together and add the
- 26:13finishing touches. And there were songs.
- 26:15There's a lot of songs on this new album that I wrote and
- 26:19presented to the band. And there's a lot of songs that
- 26:21Bruce wrote, presented to the band.
- 26:23There's some songs that we just collaborated on, but no, we do a
- 26:28lot of our our writing process together and in spur the moment
- 26:32things too. So, well, sometimes we'll just
- 26:36shit out a song and it's done and it's like, wow, where the
- 26:41fuck did that come from? Yep, right.
- 26:45We've I, we, yeah, we've done that so many times back.
- 26:48It's it's insane, right? But that's that muse, man.
- 26:50You get that creative use flowing and, you know, Mike
- 26:52butts out a riff and all of a sudden I got my lyric book.
- 26:54I'm like, oh, this shit, this fit fits perfectly.
- 26:56Then you just, you tweak a little bit here and there, all
- 26:58of a sudden boom song. So and those to me are the best
- 27:01songs you write because you don't overthink them.
- 27:03They just get channeled to you somehow and all of a sudden,
- 27:05boom, here you go. Absolutely.
- 27:10Oh yeah, so. You guys were more like us and
- 27:13the fact that everybody has their own input and what's going
- 27:17on, right? You're not telling each other
- 27:19what to do. It's more somebody's got an idea
- 27:21and you guys all work around that idea, right?
- 27:24I tell them what to do all day long.
- 27:31Right. Because I mean, you know.
- 27:33This crazy ass motherfucker is up at 4:00 AM every goddamn day
- 27:37and I'm getting messages by 6:00 AM and I get up and I go work.
- 27:40I, I work concrete. Like I'm actually sitting on the
- 27:43job site right now. My kind boss has let me have
- 27:46this time to talk to you guys and this motherfucker 6:00 AM
- 27:51every morning, morning, morning devils.
- 27:54Here's your here's your list of shit that that has to be done
- 27:57today. I'm like, oh perfect, that's
- 28:01awesome. It's.
- 28:03Great man, no rest for the. Wind He keeps us.
- 28:05He keeps us on our time. Yeah, but Jamie Jasper said it
- 28:12bets no sleep, no rest, if that's what it takes to be the
- 28:15best, you know? So I set my alarm for like 4:30
- 28:18every morning. I wake up and I get to work and
- 28:20I make sure that they got everything that they need coming
- 28:23because I mean, they deserve it. They're a hard working band and
- 28:26they they need what they need and I'm going to get it for
- 28:29them. Yeah.
- 28:30Hey, you're back. Oh, you have a connection
- 28:33problems there, pops. No, my phone overheated.
- 28:36I had it sitting on the dashboard and I had my fucking
- 28:39heat on. Oh oh, it's cold in Canada
- 28:45already. Oh yeah, it's like 70. 8° here
- 28:48in Arizona. Oh, shut up.
- 28:50Stop it. You're, you're in Arizona.
- 28:52You don't know what is it today, Bruce?
- 28:57Like 60°. Like 52.
- 29:01I think I remember when I was living in.
- 29:04Phoenix, I would wake up 6:00 in the morning and I would have an
- 29:07ice, one of those water bottles of ice you put in your fridge.
- 29:12And by the time I walked out of my house, walked down the
- 29:14street, it was already melted. So Arizona doesn't get cold.
- 29:18I lived there. Yeah, no, and I was joking when
- 29:21I said it was 78°. I just guessed and fucking lo
- 29:24and behold, it's 78° right. Now 78°.
- 29:27And I, and I'm like why? Why?
- 29:29Like it was supposed, well it was supposed to be 60° a day and
- 29:32rainy and it and it decided not to rain until Sunday.
- 29:34It's like, stop teasing me man. Let's go, you guys.
- 29:37Normally it would be cold here too, but we're having like.
- 29:43Well, this year was not bad. It was nice.
- 29:45We didn't really get hot to the middle of like hot, hot to the
- 29:47middle of August, to the middle of September.
- 29:49July was nothing. It's where it's been years past,
- 29:53man. Like it.
- 29:54I don't think it broke 110 maybe two or three times until middle
- 29:58August. Yeah.
- 29:58That's. Great bro, like again it was it.
- 30:01Was in. Arizona, so like 110 is nothing.
- 30:05That's every day. No, right.
- 30:08Yeah. You just wake up.
- 30:09It's another day, you know. We happen to live in the
- 30:11southernmost tip of Canada, right in Windsor, ON.
- 30:15We're right across the border from Detroit, OK, And it fucking
- 30:19gets hot here, OK, stupid hot, especially because we're
- 30:22surrounded by the the Great Lakes.
- 30:25So we get the lake effect and everything.
- 30:26And the humidity here is damn near unbearable.
- 30:30Sometimes in the middle of summer we'll be like 100° and
- 30:35with the humidex it's like 130 a 140.
- 30:38It's fucking insane. I.
- 30:42Can. Handle I can handle dry heat
- 30:45like we have in Arizona yes, when we I'm in Kentucky right
- 30:48now. So like we get humidity, bro, it
- 30:51feels like I can't breathe. I'm going to die.
- 30:54And it's only it's not even the hottest it normally gets in
- 30:56Arizona, but it's dry heat, so you can handle that.
- 31:00And as humidity, yeah, I'll tell you, bro.
- 31:03I'll tell you, I'll tell you a funny story, Pitbull, because
- 31:07you were born and raised there. I lived there for almost 20
- 31:09years myself. That's How I Met Chris.
- 31:11We formed the band. I brought our drummer back here
- 31:15to mix our first demos before Chris even joined the band so
- 31:20that we could get a good singer. And he was here maybe 2 days and
- 31:24my mom and dad wanted to have a cookout.
- 31:26And we're all standing out on the patio.
- 31:29And he might he might have lasted 15 minutes.
- 31:32And he looked at my dad and he said, I'd love to continue this
- 31:34conversation with you, Mr. Michaels, but I don't know how
- 31:38you people live here. I can't breathe.
- 31:39I got to go in the air conditioning.
- 31:42My dad started laughing. He's like you were born and
- 31:44raised in Arizona, which is what they call hell on earth, you
- 31:47know, as far as the United States is concerned.
- 31:49It's. The seventh, he, he, he got such
- 31:53a kick out of that. It's the big difference between
- 31:56dry heat and humidity, man. It is, Yep.
- 32:01Yep, Yep, 100% my job and. I'm from Illinois originally.
- 32:05So I so I understand. Yeah, I understand.
- 32:10So let's talk again because, because Pitbull dropped that
- 32:13stuff off so quickly, what can we expect from you guys next?
- 32:16What's the what's, what's the most recent thing that's common
- 32:18that we can, we can get our 28 countries to to chime in and and
- 32:21go get and pursue and download. Or buy well if you.
- 32:24Can get people if there's the next single that's.
- 32:31OK. I didn't hear that because you
- 32:35talked over each other. It's there's a lag and it's.
- 32:38Driving. I know, I know.
- 32:39It happens. Go ahead.
- 32:41Oh. OK, gotcha.
- 32:43Angel. Warfare.
- 32:43What? What?
- 32:48What I said was Angel Warfare's the next big release after we
- 32:51drop the video tomorrow. I believe that's cool.
- 32:56The third. Is that the 30th, Eric?
- 32:59The Angel Warfare is the 25th of November 20. 5th 25th That's my
- 33:05mistake. The 20. 5th of November.
- 33:08Is the. Warfare.
- 33:11But the music video that's dropping, the music video that's
- 33:17dropping tomorrow is going to is going to be worth a lot of
- 33:20attention that I can assure you. OK.
- 33:24Oh yeah. Oh yeah, we had to pull some
- 33:26tricks to get Google Ads to go and run campaigns on it.
- 33:32Really. Well, you know, with with
- 33:34certain imagery, they don't necessarily like it.
- 33:39I guess this day and age, I don't mean to.
- 33:43I'm just going to, I'm just going to say what I'm going to
- 33:45say. You want.
- 33:46To RIP it off like a Band-Aid. Dude, OK, this day and age has
- 33:49become really pussified and some types of imagery.
- 33:54You can't be really advertised and there's a lot of cool shit
- 33:57going on in this video. It's like it's like an action
- 34:00movie, you know what I mean? There's a lot of, it's like an
- 34:03action horror movie and sometimes the getting it to be
- 34:09advertised is very difficult. So you got to run through
- 34:12different tricks of the trade to make sure that it can get what
- 34:16it needs and get the proper eyes on.
- 34:21Yeah, I feel you. Censorship is is just
- 34:24ridiculous. And it's weird how the
- 34:25censorship is different now than it was 40 years ago.
- 34:29Yeah. When what they're are you
- 34:32kidding? What they're doing 40 years ago
- 34:33wouldn't jive today. Right.
- 34:35What they were doing 10 years ago wouldn't jive today.
- 34:40True. Yeah.
- 34:41True. It's yeah.
- 34:42Here's my thing though, man. And and this there, there's
- 34:48attitude is what used to sell record attitude and living on
- 34:53the edge and pushing the boundaries is what metal and
- 34:57rock were all about. And now their censorship wants
- 35:01to put everything in a little tiny box and make everything
- 35:05politically correct. But that's not what this is.
- 35:08It's art. And art is not meant to be
- 35:10politically correct. Exactly, back in the back in the
- 35:15in the Clinton era you guys would be satanic and going to
- 35:18hell and Tipper Girl would have had a field day with your name
- 35:21and your imagery. It's like everybody thought Ozzy
- 35:23was the Prince of Darkness. Oh my God, you're going to hell.
- 35:26Fuck you. Ozzy was a human being that
- 35:28found his place in the rock'n'roll world and has a
- 35:31legacy that will last forever. For us, if you, if you're
- 35:35anybody who's Ozzy, you're going to fucking know that Ozzy loved
- 35:39God. Ozzy talked about God all the
- 35:41time. He wore a fucking cross for
- 35:43Christ's sake. Yep, not an upside down one.
- 35:45And Tony Iommi. Uh huh.
- 35:51Yep. What is always He always say it.
- 35:52Love you all, God bless you all. Yeah, God.
- 35:54Bless you all. You know I.
- 35:58Yep. And you?
- 35:59A lot of the music was against the tyranny and against the
- 36:04oppression of, of, of shit, I mean, and that's why they
- 36:08labeled it that way, because they didn't want people to hear
- 36:11what he was really saying. Instead, they labeled him as the
- 36:16satanic guy, you know what I mean?
- 36:19So nobody would actually pay attention to his word.
- 36:23Yeah, No, Mike, we've Mike. And I've had conversations about
- 36:26his lyrics and really if you dive into his lyrics, you're
- 36:28going to be really surprised. The message he was sending, a
- 36:31lot of it was anti war, anti bomb, because where he grew up
- 36:35in Birmingham, the time that he grew up in Birmingham and the
- 36:37poverty and coming out of World War 2 and all the kind of
- 36:39darkness and and bullshit that was going on in their world.
- 36:43It's, it's kind of like everything he wrote was more of
- 36:46a protest song or just calling something out.
- 36:49And then he had his stuff like Crazy Train.
- 36:51But even Crazy Train had some of the little snippets of a protest
- 36:54in it. If you really dive deep into the
- 36:55lyrics. So it it's true, they, they
- 36:58censor what they fear and that's the bullshit because what you're
- 37:02creating art, music is, it doesn't matter what level it is,
- 37:05it's art. The one thing that I agree with
- 37:07Pitbull on is there used to be a pushback, right?
- 37:11And now, because everyone wants to make money and be monetized,
- 37:16the people who used to be rebellious, as soon as there's a
- 37:20little bit of pushback, too many people are saying, OK, we won't
- 37:23do that, right? Yeah, everybody's falling in
- 37:26line and it's really ruining that's.
- 37:28It Yeah. Like who We used to say, who the
- 37:32fuck are you? Right?
- 37:33We had our middle fingers. We're we're us.
- 37:37We're going to do what we want to do.
- 37:38We don't care what you want. You live your life your way.
- 37:41We're going to live our life this way.
- 37:43Nobody's hurting each other. So what's the problem exactly?
- 37:46There used to be that mutual pushback.
- 37:50There just isn't anymore. Well, there is with me.
- 37:53I push it every day. I put the boundary, I put I.
- 37:55Try to, too. I think everybody in the screen
- 38:01right now tries to do that. But we're in the minority right
- 38:03now, unfortunately. Yeah, yeah.
- 38:05Yeah. Yeah, we are.
- 38:08Yes. Yeah, I, I'm, I'm enjoying your.
- 38:11I'm enjoying your pictures here, man.
- 38:12See, now this this, this, this is a cool picture.
- 38:15Yeah, that's right. But see, back in the day, you're
- 38:17like, Oh my God, you're all going to hell if you listen to
- 38:19these guys. Worship the devil.
- 38:23And you know what I want This is definitely a little bit now.
- 38:28Devils by definition, yeah, let's get the origin of devils
- 38:30by definition. It's it's.
- 38:32Actually more of a play on words than anything.
- 38:35Because it's we. We are devils only by
- 38:40definition, right? And we are.
- 38:45Which is the way I took. It I thought, I thought the way
- 38:48that you see us, the way that you interpret us, you but by
- 38:52definition of a devil, that is us.
- 38:55But it's actually the quite opposite because we're actually
- 38:58really good, loving people who care about community and we care
- 39:01about our friends. Our actual, our fan base is
- 39:05called the Devil's Fam. And that means that you are part
- 39:08of the devil's family. And the Devil's Fam starts with
- 39:11us as brothers, as musicians. Now Eric's part of the Devil's
- 39:16fam, and our Devil's fam just keeps growing and growing and
- 39:19growing. And.
- 39:24What I have up right here just just proves that point because
- 39:27you're talking about shout out to warriors on this post and
- 39:30it's talking about recovery isn't easy and everybody's going
- 39:33through a battle. Everybody's going through a
- 39:35victory like we talked about. I'm over 20 years sober.
- 39:38You have 11 years sober. Mike's been clean since 2015
- 39:41ish. So it it's true.
- 39:42It's it's I love that. I love how you just explained
- 39:45your band name. That's legit, man.
- 39:47That's a fucking really cool way.
- 39:49And I love. It to have that name, I love it.
- 39:51I love it because, you know, like anybody who wants to
- 39:54categorize these people as evil people.
- 39:56I mean, Bruce, he's the most like find human possible, bro.
- 40:01This guy goes out and feeds homeless people like if.
- 40:05That's being a. Devil, if that's being evil,
- 40:08then you know, I don't know, I think people got this shit like
- 40:11backwards. Yeah, agree.
- 40:14I've had this conversation with more people then I can count,
- 40:19man, guys like us. I've I've encountered more
- 40:24graciousness and I would give you the shirt off my back kind
- 40:28of mentality than I ever found when I was in the church.
- 40:32You're not saying there's anything wrong with God or the
- 40:34church. If that's what makes you happy
- 40:36and be a good person, that's great.
- 40:37But I found my family and music and I've always encountered the
- 40:42attitude that you guys just described about yourselves.
- 40:45You get your aggressions out on stage and recording music.
- 40:48You don't need to be mean in real life.
- 40:51Right. No.
- 40:54And you'll see that if you ever come to one of our live shows,
- 40:57you will see how much love there is at the show and how much
- 41:02energy that we put out as as musicians, as artists.
- 41:07And every fucking time that we go play man, everybody fucking
- 41:13either stand still because they're not sure what how to
- 41:16process it, or they're fucking going bananas as they're loving
- 41:20it and they're feeding off of our energy.
- 41:26And rightfully so, because you want that energy for a live
- 41:28show. That's what, that's what keeps
- 41:29people coming back. That's the energy, That's the
- 41:31vibe, right? That's, you know, that's how you
- 41:33suck people in. You know, we would, we would
- 41:35play for bands like Sacred Reich.
- 41:36And we were nowhere near, we were nowhere near the sound of
- 41:39Sacred Reich. But because we could kind of go
- 41:42across genres and because we just came out on stage and
- 41:45played three songs in your face, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
- 41:47It's like you'd love us or hate us right then and there.
- 41:49After, you know, 9-10 minutes, you're going to know if we're
- 41:53worthy of being on that stage with the bands we're opening up
- 41:55for and playing with. And nine times out of 10, you
- 41:58know, people kept coming back and we kept growing our, you
- 42:01know, growing our, our reputation, growing the fan
- 42:03base, just like you guys are doing this show by show.
- 42:05Stay true to what you're creating and, and people will
- 42:07follow you. It's the ones that kind of fuck
- 42:10around and, and waiver, you know, you know, you get 1 little
- 42:13dent in your armor because of your name or your look or your
- 42:16style or how you come across and all of a sudden, you know, the
- 42:18world's collapsing around you. So you got all I got to change
- 42:20that. I don't want to offend anybody.
- 42:21Fuck that. Be yourself, be true to who you
- 42:23are. Judgments are going to come.
- 42:26Judgments are going to come and go regardless, right?
- 42:29You're going to get, I get when I shave my head.
- 42:31Like legit when I shave my head they put us in a in a fucking
- 42:34Skinhead concert because I look like this now.
- 42:39We didn't realize this guy had a show at the.
- 42:41Time and we, you know, we but we hung and we but you but you know
- 42:45what I'm saying? But you know, because of who
- 42:49right, but because of who we are, it didn't matter.
- 42:51We just went out there rocked. So, you know, I, I judgments,
- 42:56people that judge are the ones that typically are the most
- 42:58strong willed Christians in the world because, you know, again,
- 43:02they judge what they fear or they judge what they don't.
- 43:04Understand because. They have to have their yeah.
- 43:08And I know you can't answer, OK, but I mean, I've actually, I was
- 43:12born into a church and I'm not a Christian at all, but I was born
- 43:16into the church. I read the Bible.
- 43:18So here's my question for all these judgmental assholes.
- 43:22Have you actually read the fucking Bible that you claim to
- 43:25worship and believe in because it says love is the law.
- 43:30Don't judge people and be kind you know what I mean?
- 43:34Amen bro what it says. But I don't see that coming from
- 43:39these people at all. Nope.
- 43:43You don't. I am no expert on any level
- 43:46either, but I asked the same questions you do Pitbull.
- 43:48I'm like, I read enough of it and I was exposed to enough of
- 43:52it to know that the way you're acting is not right.
- 43:54That's all I need. To you know what I mean?
- 43:56At the end of the day, man, just be good people like it's not
- 43:59hard. It's hard to be a good for, in
- 44:01fact it takes more energy to hate somebody or or to be a Dick
- 44:04right buddy unless they have it. Well said.
- 44:07If they need to get punched if they fuck them in the.
- 44:11Right, right. Save that energy for the people
- 44:14that deserve it, right? Religion in itself is about
- 44:19like, it's about trying to establish morality right.
- 44:24You need to establish morality within people to give them a
- 44:30sense of what is right and what is wrong.
- 44:32Otherwise the only way you know what is right and what is wrong
- 44:35is what you were taught by your parents or whoever raised you or
- 44:42by your life experiences. Right.
- 44:47Like I mean agree that is in my opinion that is religions and
- 44:51original purpose. Original purpose.
- 44:57Right. And that's why religions have
- 44:59changed and evolved so much over the over time because they they
- 45:02keep getting, oh wait, but we can't do it like this.
- 45:04We got to do it like this, you know, oh, if we just tweak this,
- 45:08if we take this word out of this verse, then it's fine.
- 45:10Like the Catholics take the word out of begotten son.
- 45:14I forget the whole verse itself, but it's, you know, they took
- 45:18the word begotten out. I'm like, you can't take the
- 45:20word begotten out. That's how it was written.
- 45:21That's how it was originally interpreted, right?
- 45:23You can't just change it because you want it to flow better for
- 45:26the next generation of, of, of people.
- 45:28You're trying to get to adhere to your policies and terms
- 45:31because to me and Mike and I've talked about forever religion
- 45:36people, some people need religion, right?
- 45:37Some people need that accountability.
- 45:38Some people need to be told how to pray and, and how to, how to
- 45:40live a life. And I get that and I respect
- 45:42that. But at the end of the day,
- 45:44religions are all about money. It's, it's, it's a machine.
- 45:48The most, the most powerful companies in the world, the
- 45:51Catholicism and Mormonism. Why?
- 45:52Because they had their trillions and trillions of dollars.
- 45:55They surround themselves and they, they alter perception and
- 46:01things like that because it's Christian Scientology, right?
- 46:04They all fucking are, are just corporations that are are, you
- 46:09know, kind of grinding the thought process and the belief
- 46:12system to their advantage. And then when shit hits the fan
- 46:15like the, the priest and molesting kids or the, or the
- 46:18people in the LDS church killing people, well, they're just the
- 46:21byproduct. They're just, they're the one
- 46:23percenters. Fuck you.
- 46:24They're the one percenters, man. You buried the one percenters.
- 46:27There was like 80% of your shit. You buried it to keep it quiet
- 46:30because otherwise you'd explode. Here's the way I end that
- 46:33argument. Here's the way I end that
- 46:35argument, Chris, with the people who are bound and determined
- 46:38that they're going to die on that hill.
- 46:43If that religion was started today, it would be shut down so
- 46:46fast your fucking head would spin.
- 46:49If you found out that somebody was diddling kids in a brand new
- 46:52religion, the government would shut that fucking thing down so
- 46:55fast your head would spin. But because it's old, it gets to
- 46:58stay around it. That's how ridiculous it is.
- 47:01But people don't. They don't think like that,
- 47:04right? They look at me like I'm weird
- 47:07because I think differently. I'm like, how do you not put two
- 47:10and two together there? Yeah, I don't get it.
- 47:14Back to music. Yeah, it's tough.
- 47:15Religion. Back to me.
- 47:17Back to me. I took.
- 47:18I took us down the path, man. Hey, man.
- 47:21I did write a song. I did write a song about it
- 47:23called. Faces, we're not having an
- 47:25interview right now. This is a conversation.
- 47:28We're not. No, no, no, exactly.
- 47:30I just. I just.
- 47:31Yeah. I just don't want to.
- 47:32I just don't want to, you know, I don't.
- 47:34I mean, religion's cool and all, but I'd rather talk about music
- 47:37and devils by definition and what you got coming and what you
- 47:40got going on. And you know, we want to make,
- 47:42we're going to make this all about you guys, because that's
- 47:45what it's about, man. It's about the rock'n'roll, you
- 47:47know, so and we can find your stuff on podcasts.
- 47:53I'm not podcast and all the, all the, all the iTunes, Spotify,
- 47:58right? People want to go check.
- 47:59Out your music. Cool, cool.
- 48:05That's awesome. And I didn't want to find your
- 48:08deaf and I want to find find your website again because I
- 48:10want to pull that up. Talk to us about your
- 48:12relationship with Eurek Records, because a lot of people, they
- 48:16know that name. That would be my area of
- 48:19expertise. So I started this label
- 48:23self-made records and I got ripped off by a lot of people,
- 48:29you know, I mean, and I just, I was so hard to build my
- 48:33reputation that build things and I was getting ripped off left
- 48:37and right by different companies and FOMO companies, so-called
- 48:40companies. So finally I just started
- 48:43reaching out to labels and Eric happened to be one of them that
- 48:47answered me a lot of wouldn't give me the time of day and they
- 48:51had this digital distribution program.
- 48:53I'm like, hey, I run my label. What I'll do is I'll put in my
- 48:57contract that my artist will use your digital distribution and
- 49:01maybe we can work together this way and I can utilize your
- 49:04services. And he said, sure, they had no
- 49:07problem with it. We, we had a meeting, I had a
- 49:10meeting with Tim Bailey and Richard Vale and all that.
- 49:13And next thing you know, I've got these the cool thing where
- 49:16they let me give a free digital distribution to any band that I
- 49:20want to. So I knew nice, like, all right,
- 49:23cool. We're going to, I'm going to
- 49:24bring some people on and we're going to do this.
- 49:26And that allows me to use marketing teams, Eric, to market
- 49:31bands. So when they signed on with me,
- 49:34they inevitably signed on being an Earache digital distribution
- 49:38artist, which allows U.S. market them through Earache people.
- 49:43That way we know we're getting real marketing.
- 49:45We're getting legit label marketing instead of some guy in
- 49:49his basement telling me that he can do this.
- 49:51And I get put in like 5 web scenes and you know, it's, it's
- 49:56a horrible thing out here, man. In the industry, people don't
- 49:59like you to talk about it. But I talk about it and I put
- 50:02people on blast all the time, especially at the scam artists
- 50:05because it's something that people need to know.
- 50:07People need to know about how hard it is for these bands.
- 50:12These guys put so much money into their career that for some
- 50:16asshole to come along and RIP them off, it's just it's an
- 50:20atrocity, you know what I mean? I'm glad you said that, because
- 50:25that's so true. That's why they call me the
- 50:28Pitbull. That's why we got.
- 50:33The That's good, man. That's good, absolutely.
- 50:35Well, in the music business, it's just, it's the same thing
- 50:38in any entertainment kind of business.
- 50:40You need somebody like Pitbull out there to be the face of the
- 50:44band, to speak for the band. Because what he just said is so
- 50:48true. We're behind the scenes,
- 50:50spending all our money buying gear, writing songs, rehearsing.
- 50:54There's only so many hours in the day.
- 50:57And after you hear these guys's music, it might not make sense
- 51:01if you don't understand musicians.
- 51:03But we're kind of compassionate, empathetic people, most of us.
- 51:07So it's hard for us to put up a mean face and say, we demand
- 51:11this from you, right? You need somebody like him out
- 51:14there going, we demand this from you.
- 51:16Yeah. Yeah, accurate.
- 51:21Yeah, because at the end of the day, we're just entertainers,
- 51:23man. We, we would love entertaining
- 51:25people. We love sharing our souls
- 51:27because let's face it, you know, those of us who write the lyrics
- 51:30and you know, it's, we're sharing a piece of our soul.
- 51:32So it's, it's just something, you know, other people resonate
- 51:36with it. Then you're, you're, you're
- 51:38getting the point across. You're doing.
- 51:39The keyword is love. You said it.
- 51:41Yeah, three times. You know what we love?
- 51:43What we do, and we love the people that love what we do.
- 51:46Yep, and you know what that hits that that hits me the right way,
- 51:50even right on my right, right on my my Facebook profile, I have a
- 51:56saying that I've followed my entire life and that's music is
- 52:00the essence of life because without to not beat.
- 52:04So that's that kind of fault. Yeah.
- 52:08Oh, yeah, absolutely, man. It's the soundtrack of our
- 52:14lives. You know, I think, I think Green
- 52:16Day said that unfortunately in a song, but it's true, you know,
- 52:29All right, so I know you guys, you guys are all working and
- 52:31stuff. I don't want to, I don't want to
- 52:32bleed into too long of a conversation.
- 52:34But devils by definition, people just Google you.
- 52:36You're going to find all the all the links, all the social media
- 52:39stuff, Facebook, Instagram, Spotify, all the iTunes
- 52:44platforms, YouTube itself. You don't actually have a true
- 52:47like website is just because when I type in it goes to
- 52:50YouTube. Is that right, Pitbull?
- 52:51There's not an actual just standalone website.
- 52:53Yet they're on my website. I can send you the link for
- 52:56that. They need to go to website.
- 53:00You guys got to get on that, but I have them on.
- 53:02My yeah, we'll get on that. Do they have their home page on
- 53:06my website where you could find all their strange links?
- 53:09Go to self-made Records LLC and click that website and you can
- 53:14you can definitely see all the artists that we've represented.
- 53:17Just ignore those and go to Devils by Definition.
- 53:21Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
- 53:24Yeah, selfmaderecordsllc.com. Yeah.
- 53:30Right. So that makes me happy you were
- 53:33on here, Pitbull, because now I know you just friended us on
- 53:37Instagram. I'd like to put a face with the
- 53:39people I'm now I know who I'm talking to, right?
- 53:42It just, it makes it makes it cool to know who you're talking
- 53:45to. Absolutely.
- 53:48Hell yeah. I follow everybody who chose
- 53:51support to the industry and everybody who has integrity.
- 53:55That's important to me, you know.
- 53:57And that's what we're trying to do here, man.
- 53:59We're trying to help people that are like we're, we're coming up
- 54:02along with you guys. So we hope that we all just keep
- 54:06growing at the next level together.
- 54:08That's our whole goal here. You promote us.
- 54:11And helping people is what we are all about.
- 54:14Or. We're promoting you.
- 54:15Yeah, right. Absolute.
- 54:18Thing, man, it's it's that's why we do what we do.
- 54:19That's why we like having bands. So this is the Self-made Records
- 54:22LLC Facebook page for those of you tuning in and checking it
- 54:25out. And then you just go featured
- 54:28the featured artists, you know which again, there's devils by
- 54:31definition, their new logo. You can find their website on
- 54:35the side right there where it says the website on the about
- 54:39page by OK there. Let me see there.
- 54:47You go. It's on the side where the links
- 54:51are. Do you guys have merch that
- 54:58people can buy because. Yeah, that's why, that's why
- 55:00he's going at because I know people are going to buy your
- 55:02shirts and stuff. I want one right?
- 55:03Now I'm going to right now, if we have a little crime left, I'm
- 55:08going to send you this right now so you can find it.
- 55:11No, we're cool. We're just trying not to hold.
- 55:13You here? I think I found it Pitbull.
- 55:15Oh, you're good. Bruce is his own boss.
- 55:17I. Don't know.
- 55:20OK, Yeah, OK. Right on.
- 55:21Cool. You guys are up there ticking
- 55:23ass. I really want one of those
- 55:27shirts with the new logo with the skull.
- 55:29Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I like, like legit.
- 55:32That's where I was going with this.
- 55:33I want to. I want to pimp you out, man.
- 55:35I'll wear it on the podcast for sure.
- 55:37I want to, I want to promote you, you know, that's, that's
- 55:40what we do. Oh yeah, hell yeah, brother.
- 55:43We appreciate everything. Are you, are you emailing your
- 55:46emailing to me Pitbull? Yeah, I'm going to e-mail it to
- 55:49you right now. OK.
- 55:50Sorry about. That's cool.
- 55:52I just got a hop. No, you're good, bro.
- 55:54You're good. That's why I bring it up,
- 55:55because I want to. I want to promote you guys.
- 55:56I know. We pulled that logo up.
- 55:58I'm like, I want that shirt. I know, I know when you first
- 56:01messed, sort of messed, when you first messed me, you had all
- 56:03just a just a ton of links and whatnot.
- 56:05So yeah, they've got shirts, they've got coffee cups, they've
- 56:09got phone cases, all kinds of stuff.
- 56:12Yeah, I just emailed it to you. If you click that link, it'll
- 56:15take you to the devil by definition.
- 56:17And then just Scroll down, it says devils by Definition, Link
- 56:20Merc and all that good stuff. Cool.
- 56:23So there it is. They're going.
- 56:25To have a lot of stuff and especially when they go on tour,
- 56:27they're going to have a lot more.
- 56:32So, new release. Yeah.
- 56:33OK, Devil's merch. I got it.
- 56:34Devil's merch. OK, So here we go boys and
- 56:37girls. We'll share that link for sure,
- 56:40and I'll be hitting that link because I want a shirt.
- 56:43Yeah. That the shirt, the shirts we
- 56:45just put over Devil's Snyder spot, too.
- 56:50Sweet. Oh, and it includes it and it
- 56:53includes a download. Mike, you get the shirt and a
- 56:55download of Devil's Night, Devil's Night, pre-order Devil's
- 57:00Night CD. Nice.
- 57:01We got vinyl records. Oh, that's one thing we need to
- 57:04we have a blood splatter final album.
- 57:07There it is right there dude. Nice.
- 57:11Dude, that's awesome, man. It's.
- 57:13Pre-order only so we need to get it.
- 57:16We actually need to hit 100 orders so we need to entice some
- 57:20people to start pre ordering this because we this needs to be
- 57:25a thing. Yeah, if you go to the Devil's
- 57:29By Definition music links on that site right there that I
- 57:33just sent to you on the far right, see the Blood Splattered
- 57:37vinyl record and that is for pre-order and they have to sell
- 57:41100 for the production to start right now.
- 57:45I believe there's like 10 OK, We we need to get more people to
- 57:50buy and it looks really cool. So you know.
- 57:54Yeah, yeah, it's the, the website's dragon.
- 57:56But it could be me because I had like 8 windows open trying to
- 57:59pimp all your guys and stuff. So after the show, I'll
- 58:01definitely get on there and, and share it with Michael.
- 58:03We'll we'll put it on our page and stuff and, and help you guys
- 58:06get because that's what we do. We're going to help you, help
- 58:08promote you, because you know you're not the demons that
- 58:11people think you are. No, we are far from that and I
- 58:15don't want to give away too much about our tour, but it's going
- 58:19to. We're doing.
- 58:21We're trying to help as many people as we can along the way,
- 58:24and that is all I'm going to say for now.
- 58:29Cool, awesome. Now, is the tour limited to
- 58:32Canada or are you coming to the States?
- 58:34This tour is a Canadian tour. Pitbull OK, so when you come to
- 58:40the States, so when you come to the states, when you go to when
- 58:44you go to Chicago, you want to hit up Mike.
- 58:45When you come to Arizona, you want to hit me up because both
- 58:47of us want to go and see you guys live.
- 58:50Absolutely, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 58:53Love to come to the Windy City. So anything else you guys want
- 58:56to share before you have to get out of here?
- 58:58Yeah. Anything else you guys want to
- 58:59share Pops you got? Anything I.
- 59:03I think we. Just OK, we covered all crazy
- 59:08cool. Just a quick.
- 59:14Go ahead, crazy coup. This is driving me nuts.
- 59:19Jane. I was just going to give a quick
- 59:21shout out to my family, My, my, my wife, my kids, Cameron, Casey
- 59:26and my wife Sarah and everybody who supported me along the
- 59:29years. I love you all, all my family.
- 59:32Yeah, there you go. Awesome.
- 59:36Yeah, Pitbull. Anything you got man.
- 59:42Me. Yeah.
- 59:45I was waiting. I was waiting for pops to feed.
- 59:49Oh yeah, I think we covered. Listen to these guys, watch
- 59:54their videos, hear their music if you like their music.
- 59:57Oh, don't be a dirtbag. Buy a T-shirt if you're going to
- 1:00:00RIP the music off the Internet. It's cool if you don't buy CDs
- 1:00:03or vinyl. I understand music's free, but
- 1:00:05if you're going to download the shit for free, don't be a
- 1:00:08dirtbag. Buy a T-shirt.
- 1:00:11Thank you, that's usually my support.
- 1:00:14Yeah, and I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you I don't
- 1:00:17buy one song, I buy the album. So I go on iTunes and I buy the
- 1:00:20full album. I just don't buy one song
- 1:00:22because again, I like finding those hidden gems that you don't
- 1:00:26release yet. And it's like, holy shit, this
- 1:00:28should be a hit song and that they haven't just got to it yet.
- 1:00:31So Pops, you were going to you think you wanted to say
- 1:00:34something, but then we all the delay kind of screwed things up.
- 1:00:36So anything you want to say, Pops.
- 1:00:43I don't have anything, everything, just much love to
- 1:00:49have anybody that's been been a part of the journey so far and
- 1:00:53especially you guys for taking time to stay with us today.
- 1:00:55We appreciate it very much. Dude, you, you took the time to
- 1:00:59join us, man, we. Appreciate you guys man this
- 1:01:02it's a mutual admiration. We this was our vision is to
- 1:01:06give a platform to musicians and anybody that had a dream that
- 1:01:10they wanted to put out there, it kind of morphed into this.
- 1:01:13So it's extra special to us when it's musicians because that's
- 1:01:18near and dear to our heart. We know what it takes to start a
- 1:01:21band from the ground floor and get to the point where you guys
- 1:01:24are at, where you're trying to breakthrough to the other side.
- 1:01:26So we wish you all the success in the world.
- 1:01:29Man, you seem like stand up guys.
- 1:01:31Your music is awesome. Your visuals are awesome.
- 1:01:35Just keep on keeping on, man. You're kicking ass.
- 1:01:37Yeah. Hell yeah.
- 1:01:38Thank you very much so much. Because you're who you are,
- 1:01:43you're going to love how we close the show.
- 1:01:44So if you're feeling suicidal, depressed, or just your minds in
- 1:01:48a bad in a bad spot, go outside and run and go scream in a
- 1:01:51pillow. Go journal.
- 1:01:52Go work out. Do something to help change your
- 1:01:54state of mind. If you can't find somebody to
- 1:01:56talk to, text 988 because somebody is standing by to help
- 1:01:59you get through the struggles you are struggling with.
- 1:02:01Tomorrow's a better day with you in it because we don't want you
- 1:02:03leaving a hole in somebody's heart because somebody does love
- 1:02:05you and they will miss you. With that being said, I'm Chris.
- 1:02:08He's Mike. This is Pops crazy coup and the
- 1:02:10Pitbull from devils by definition.
- 1:02:12Definitely go check them out. Google the name.
- 1:02:15You're going to love the music and love the merchandise.
- 1:02:17You love the visuals and not only that, they're super nice
- 1:02:19stand up humans with a great fantastic life resume
- 1:02:23collectively. So give them the time of day.
- 1:02:25You will not regret it for all of us.
- 1:02:27Until next time. See you peace.
- 1:02:30Steve, thanks. Love you brother.
- 1:02:32Love you too. Thank you guys so much.
- 1:02:34Thank you. Don't leave yet.