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Celebrity Parenting Is Hard, Just Ask Brad Pitt and David Beckham · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Sunday, June fourteenth, and Angelina
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Speaker 1: Jolie and Brad Pitt have six kids together. But why
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Speaker 1: is it that five out of the six don't seem
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Speaker 1: to want anything to do with their dad, at least
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Speaker 1: when it comes to his name. And with that, welcome
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Speaker 1: to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rohaps I got
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Speaker 1: my numbers right. They have six kids together, and I
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Speaker 1: keep seeing a headline up the headline after headline, kid
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Speaker 1: after kid after kid is dropping Pitt from their name.
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Speaker 2: That's true.
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Speaker 3: And you mentioned six kids, all six of them seem
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Speaker 3: to be estranged from their father. And it's interesting the
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Speaker 3: one who hasn't seemed to make a move to change
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Speaker 3: his last name is the one who has been the
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Speaker 3: most outspoken against Brad Pitt. So look, right now, this
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Speaker 3: is it. It's we're getting a little public insight into
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Speaker 3: privately what has had to be an exceptionally difficult time
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Speaker 3: for these kids. Because that's a big step to make,
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Speaker 3: to decide when you turn eighteen to drop your father's
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Speaker 3: last name.
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Speaker 2: That's a choice that.
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Speaker 3: I believe Angelina Jolie herself made and now interestingly, it's
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Speaker 3: happening with her children.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I guess I should start for it was my
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Speaker 1: first because I want to be careful here. This is
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Speaker 1: a I want to make sure we're going to talk
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Speaker 1: about just what is public and not just speculate and
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Speaker 1: do rumors and do tabloid headline kind of a thing.
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Speaker 1: But the facts are what they are, and these facts
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Speaker 1: keep coming out, and the latest has been a few
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Speaker 1: of the latest. So who was the latest to come
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Speaker 1: out and say they're dropping their names?
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Speaker 2: So Knox.
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Speaker 3: So this is Brad Pitt's biological son, his only biological son, Knox.
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Speaker 3: He is seventeen. He will be eighteen next month, in
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Speaker 3: July July twelfth. Actually both Knox and Vivian, they're the twins.
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Speaker 3: They're going to turn eighteen on July twelfth. What made
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Speaker 3: headlines recently A couple of things. First of all, Knox
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Speaker 3: on his high school diploma, he just graduated from high
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Speaker 3: school and it was noted he only went by Knox Jolie,
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Speaker 3: and before then he had been Knocks Jolie Pitt. Now
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Speaker 3: his twin sister, Vivian just a little while ago, I
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Speaker 3: guess two years ago when she was on in The Outsiders,
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Speaker 3: the Broadway show The Outsiders back in twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 3: she in her playbill listed her name as Vivian Jolie.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and that made headlines at the time. I re
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Speaker 1: read with that one. So these two are about to
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Speaker 1: graduate high school. The headline is because he has now
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Speaker 1: dropped the pit on the diploma and it's already hers
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Speaker 1: would have already been dr I was already dropped already.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: The first person to legally do this, this is interesting
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Speaker 3: was their first born biological child, Shiloh in May of
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. She had just turned eighteen, so literally
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Speaker 3: like within days of her turning eighteen, she went to
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Speaker 3: go legally remove Pitt from her last name. So she
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Speaker 3: was the first in May of twenty twenty four, so
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Speaker 3: she would be twenty now she is twenty eight now,
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Speaker 3: she was eighteen. Then she did it immediately. She did
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Speaker 3: it immediately, So she did that then. I believe next
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Speaker 3: was Vivian who appeared in that playbill. She dropped Pitt
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Speaker 3: from her name, and then we heard from just in
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Speaker 3: the last two months May of this year, Maddix filed
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Speaker 3: paperwork to drop Pitt.
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Speaker 2: From his last name, citing personal reasons.
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Speaker 3: He's going to court actually for it in September, and
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Speaker 3: then just this month, a few days ago, June ninth,
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Speaker 3: Zahara filed paperwork to request a new name minus Pitt.
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Speaker 1: Okay, help me with Maddis and Zahara the names, and well,
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Speaker 1: excuse me the ages yep, And again I was struggling
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Speaker 1: to keep them straight. How many adopted? How many?
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Speaker 3: So Maddix is twenty four, Pax is twenty two, Zahara
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Speaker 3: is twenty one. Those are the three legally adopted children, Brad,
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Speaker 3: Pitt and Angelina, both of them were legal parents for Maddix,
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Speaker 3: Packs and Zahara. Then comes their biological children. Shiloh is
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Speaker 3: twenty knocks about to turn eighteen, Vivian about to turn eighteen.
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Speaker 3: So everyone by next month is a full blown adult.
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Speaker 1: Has any have they come out and explained the dropping
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Speaker 1: of the name officially, everybody has their speculation this and that,
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Speaker 1: But what have they actually said about it?
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Speaker 2: They have not said anything.
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Speaker 3: Now. The only person who said anything was Pax, and
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Speaker 3: I believe, and like I said, I searched everywhere to
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Speaker 3: see if Pax had dropped the Jolie Pitt name. And
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Speaker 3: there's no one who is saying that. But if you
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Speaker 3: recall when Brad Pitt won his Oscar in twenty twenty,
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Speaker 3: he actually in his acceptance speech said, this is all
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Speaker 3: for my kids. My kids are everything right. So Pas
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Speaker 3: on Father's Day, just a short while later, had the
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Speaker 3: screen grab of Brad Pitt with his oscar in his hand,
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Speaker 3: and this.
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Speaker 2: Is what he put out. This is the only known.
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Speaker 3: Response or st by any of the kids about this
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Speaker 3: state of their relationship with their father. So Pax wrote,
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Speaker 3: Happy Father's Day to this world class ahole, except for
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Speaker 3: he used the actual word. You time and time again
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Speaker 3: proved to be a terrible and despicable person. You have
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Speaker 3: no consideration or empathy toward your four youngest children, who
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Speaker 3: tremble in fear, when in your presence you have made
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Speaker 3: the lives of those closest to me a constant hell.
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Speaker 3: You may tell yourself in the world whatever you want,
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Speaker 3: but the truth will come to light some day. So
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Speaker 3: Happy Father's Day, you effing awful human being. He put
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Speaker 3: that out on his Instagram stories.
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Speaker 1: That's tough.
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Speaker 2: It's horrific.
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Speaker 1: Ah We sure that authentic.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jesus, Absolutely, it's horrific. And so now you're seeing
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Speaker 3: that was six years ago. He put that out and
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Speaker 3: now you're seeing one by one by one, and it
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Speaker 3: was almost like Shiloh started the movement, and now one
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Speaker 3: by one, all of them, as they graduate from high school,
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Speaker 3: as they start to enter their lives into adulthood, they
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Speaker 3: are dropping Pitt from their name. And that you know,
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Speaker 3: we don't know, We have no idea what goes on
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Speaker 3: behind closed doors, but we know that this divorce was contentious.
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Speaker 3: It was more than eight years of legal proceedings. And
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Speaker 3: it's just sad because we know we've been through divorces
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Speaker 3: and you can divorce a woman or a man, but
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Speaker 3: you never want to divorce your children.
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Speaker 2: That's never. They have nothing to do with the divorce.
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Speaker 1: And I have right you you said, Maddox is the
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Speaker 1: only one that hasn't no Packs?
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Speaker 2: The pas? Who just who's old.
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Speaker 1: Enough to change the name? It hasn't who? Which one
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Speaker 1: is that?
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Speaker 3: Pax who just the statement I just read that was
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Speaker 3: so eviscerating. He is the only one who I have
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Speaker 3: not seen anywhere has made a legal move.
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Speaker 1: To change this last what Pax is the only one
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Speaker 1: who said something correct publicly. Bro this is what the hell?
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Speaker 1: Who is Packs? Now? Tell me as much as we
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Speaker 1: can about Packs and how old is Pax.
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Speaker 2: Pax is twenty two.
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Speaker 1: This is wow. You don't want anybody to think that
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Speaker 1: about you, but your own child, and to feel it
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Speaker 1: strongly enough to put it out publicly. Knowing who you're
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Speaker 1: father is, knowing who your mother is and what that
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Speaker 1: means robes that is um, that.
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Speaker 3: Is alarming, and that's a choice he made, yes, and
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Speaker 3: it's disturbing because look, when Angelina was with Billy Bob,
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Speaker 3: she was twenty six. I believe when she actually went
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Speaker 3: and adopted Maddox on her own. Then she went and
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Speaker 3: adopted Zahara on her own. Then they had Shiloh. But
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Speaker 3: I believe it was either while she was pregnant with
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Speaker 3: Shiloh or right she and Brad went and adopted packs together,
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Speaker 3: so he adopted all of the other the other two
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Speaker 3: as well, but he like went with Angelina to go
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Speaker 3: get packs and packs in Shilo, everyone's really close in age.
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Speaker 3: I mean they range from twenty four to eighteen, but
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Speaker 3: it's twenty four to twenty two, twenty one, twenty and
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Speaker 3: then almost eighteen.
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Speaker 2: So these kids are a close pack.
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Speaker 3: And every time you see Angelina, she's got one or
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Speaker 3: some or all of them. But they all do seem
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Speaker 3: like this bruce that sticks together.
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Speaker 1: I remember them younger, I've remember with them. It was adorable.
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Speaker 1: They had their little United Nations yelling around with them and.
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Speaker 3: We had usually had one of them on his shoulders
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Speaker 3: holding one of their hands.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's.
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Speaker 3: So sad to see just we don't again, we don't know.
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Speaker 2: We know the allegations.
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Speaker 3: There was allegations about something something happening on a private
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Speaker 3: plane to the point where I know child services were called.
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Speaker 3: There were allegations that Brad was physical with I believe
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Speaker 3: it was Maddox on the plane. And look, they did
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Speaker 3: the investigation, and just want to make sure that it's
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Speaker 3: very much said here. While he was accused of physically
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Speaker 3: abusing Maddox, who was fifteen at the time, child welfare
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Speaker 3: officials investigated. Obviously, Brad denied all the allegations and he
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Speaker 3: was cleared of any wrongdoing. So they couldn't prove anything
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Speaker 3: or have any sort of evidence against him, and so
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Speaker 3: they dropped any investigation against him, and he was clear
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Speaker 3: again cleared of all wrongdoing.
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Speaker 2: But obviously some things have occurred. Something went on.
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Speaker 3: That these kids feel like they don't want a relationship
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Speaker 3: with their father, which is incredibly sad.
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Speaker 1: That is I mean, it's just sad on any human level.
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Speaker 1: We have no idea. But this is a guy we
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Speaker 1: look at and we celebrate, absolutely, we adore and we
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Speaker 1: champion and we applaud and we go to his movies
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Speaker 1: and he was just a recent Noscar nominee. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Rome just going and he continues to be at the
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Speaker 1: top of his game. It's sixty whatever it is. But
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Speaker 1: I don't Romes. You never know what's going on behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes. People are entitled to their private matters, but
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Speaker 1: this is one. This is one of the biggest stars
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Speaker 1: in our lifetime movie stars who was in a relationship
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Speaker 1: that was one of the biggest Hollywood marriages we've ever seen.
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Speaker 3: It was, and it's interesting to think. Obviously their relationship
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Speaker 3: started with the big controversy of him being married with
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Speaker 3: Jennifer Aniston. The two of them in the movie Mister
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Speaker 3: and Missus Smith, which one of your favorite movies. But
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Speaker 3: they reportedly fell in love during that movie and you
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Speaker 3: can see it, Oh my god, you can see it
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Speaker 3: in the movie. Their chemistry is off the charts. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: and then people were either team Angelina or team Jen
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Speaker 3: for the longest time. But yeah, this was just this
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Speaker 3: is such a part of our lives and watching this
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Speaker 3: man who yes, we adore.
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Speaker 1: But he recovered from that scandal. He did because people
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Speaker 1: do you what's her name on the show of Friends?
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Speaker 2: Oh, Jennifer Aniston, Well, no, I'm friends.
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Speaker 1: What was the name of her character? I'm Friends?
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Speaker 2: Oh, now you're putting in with Rachel Rachel.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everybody loved Rachel. Yeah, you're going to do
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Speaker 1: Rachel wrong.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. People still love.
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Speaker 3: Rachel, love some Rachel all her haircut everywhere, and as
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Speaker 3: much as.
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Speaker 1: People loved Brad Pitt, they loved her so much more
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Speaker 1: that they turned their back on him. You are not
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Speaker 1: going to do her wrong. People loved Angelina Joel at
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Speaker 1: the time, but he was the one that took the
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Speaker 1: worst hit and it took him a while robes, but
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Speaker 1: he did get back into the good graces of the
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Speaker 1: public and with movies and going to he he's a
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Speaker 1: phenomenal actor and well he's made great movies, but ropes
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Speaker 1: through all that he had come back. Don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 1: he was his career was never in the dumps, because.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't I don't remember a time when he
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Speaker 3: was not ever not ostracized or canceled.
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Speaker 1: But no, yeah, but if you had a moment to
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Speaker 1: where his popularity went down a little bit, his likability
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Speaker 1: because of that holes, Absolutely he came back into being
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Speaker 1: lovable to us again. It was okay to put it
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Speaker 1: your arms around him. This more so than anything, man
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Speaker 1: this time becomes the kids and all of them, all of.
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Speaker 3: Them, all of them. It appears now because there were
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Speaker 3: always there. It was very private, but people had always
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Speaker 3: said that it appeared as though he still was visiting
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Speaker 3: with the twins, like that was still that relationship, that
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Speaker 3: door was still open. But it looks like That's why
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Speaker 3: I think this made such big headlines. The fact that
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Speaker 3: Knocks now dropped Pitt from his name as well, that
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Speaker 3: made huge, huge headlines. And so there is this expectation
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Speaker 3: that come July, when the twins turn eighteen, they will
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Speaker 3: follow in their siblings footsteps and drop his last name
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Speaker 3: as well. And look, this is a guy who went
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Speaker 3: to rehab. He's clean and sober, he's he's turned his
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Speaker 3: life around. So we don't know what what his evolution
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Speaker 3: has been like. And look, we can only hope because
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Speaker 3: we know this we've lived this in anybody.
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Speaker 2: Who has who as a parent or who has a child.
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Speaker 3: Understands that it's always better if you can find a
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Speaker 3: way back, if you can find a way to a relationship.
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Speaker 3: It's so sad to see estrangement like that because it
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Speaker 3: no one is served well by it. It's it's sad
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Speaker 3: to see and you know what, you see this publicly
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Speaker 3: played out and they're just I mean, I hate to
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Speaker 3: say it, but they're just like us. I mean, celebrities
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Speaker 3: are not immune from all of these issues and familial
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Speaker 3: problems and divorce, and maybe even more so because they're
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Speaker 3: under the microscope and everyone's watching.
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Speaker 1: Mean, I just that just makes me sad. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what's going on, but it makes me say and
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Speaker 1: maybe it's I don't know, maybe it sounds better to
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Speaker 1: just have was it Pit Pitch?
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Speaker 3: It was because part of some of their Instagram accounts,
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Speaker 3: the kids were JP was the end.
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Speaker 2: So that's how they kind of like they had their
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Speaker 2: name and then JP.
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Speaker 1: Maddox pit jo versus Maddix Jolie Pitt. What sounds better Maddix.
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Speaker 2: I think Maddox.
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Speaker 3: Jolie Pitt is what they ended up doing because that's
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Speaker 3: more traditional with the man's name at the ending, which,
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Speaker 3: oh yeah, it is a pretty name. And you know what,
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Speaker 3: think about it, Angelina dropped to Voight. She never had Voight.
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Speaker 3: John Vodes her father, and man Knox looks just like him.
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Speaker 3: It's so you mentioned that. You look at him and
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Speaker 3: you're thinking, oh, my goodness, that's John Voight.
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Speaker 1: Wow, in that family, you hate I just as a dad,
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Speaker 1: you know it. Just that's the thing. Man. When it
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Speaker 1: comes to the kids, and especially the girls, an the
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Speaker 1: idea of a rejection of dad. And he's got six
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Speaker 1: kids who are publicly saying we don't want to be
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Speaker 1: affiliated with him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want your name attached two hours.
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Speaker 2: It is crazy.
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Speaker 3: Now. This all, by the way, just played out with
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Speaker 3: this high school graduation this week, but something else was
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Speaker 3: playing out in Los Angeles with another celebrity family. When
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Speaker 3: we come back, we'll tell you about David Beckham getting
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Speaker 3: his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and why
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Speaker 3: it was bittersweet and welcome back everyone to this episode
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Speaker 3: of Amy and TJ. We are talking about two major,
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Speaker 3: larger than life celebrities with public disputes with their kids
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Speaker 3: playing out for the world to see. We told you
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Speaker 3: what's happening with Brad Pitt, and it looks like pretty
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Speaker 3: much all of his six kids are now walking down
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Speaker 3: that legal path of removing his last name from theirs.
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Speaker 3: And then you've got the Beckhams. David Beckham probably one
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Speaker 3: of the biggest moments of his life, and his son Brooklyn,
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Speaker 3: their oldest has If you remember, in January again, the
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Speaker 3: Instagram stories just put out a series of eviscerating messages
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Speaker 3: for the world to read that his parents were liars, manipulators,
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Speaker 3: saboteurs who were trying to break him and his wife apart.
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Speaker 3: I mean, just horrific things that nobody wants to hear,
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Speaker 3: but certainly no one wants anyone else to read about.
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Speaker 3: And so yes, he's there in La on Friday, surrounded
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Speaker 3: by three of his four kids and his wife of
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Speaker 3: nearly thirty years, minus Brooklyn getting his Hollywood star on
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Speaker 3: the Walk of Fame.
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Speaker 1: That's to be expected. They they are essentially have no
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Speaker 1: relationship now.
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Speaker 3: Right According to Brooklyn, he not only has no relationship
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Speaker 3: with his parents, he said he never wants one.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what he said.
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Speaker 1: What did he blame this all originally because he had
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Speaker 1: some skating stuff.
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Speaker 3: He talked about if you recall saying his parents were
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Speaker 3: controlling him, that they were doing a levying, a pr
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Speaker 3: campaign against his bride to beat. They talked about the
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Speaker 3: wedding dress debacle, the wedding dance debacle. He went after Victoria. They,
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Speaker 3: I mean, the whole thing about David's fiftieth birthday party.
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Speaker 3: It was they Brooklyn aired all of their dirty laundry.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so what is this we're seeing? Are we seeing?
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Speaker 1: Are these two guys, these two families, right, let's just
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Speaker 1: go a Brad Pitt and David Beckham the guys themselves,
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Speaker 1: are we supposed to believe and suggests that they are
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Speaker 1: bad guys, that they are something so negative behind the scenes.
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Speaker 1: They're so controlling, so manipulative and so I don't know,
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Speaker 1: even violent to some degree. The accusation that was.
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Speaker 2: The bad accusation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's just so explosive and mean behind the scenes.
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Speaker 1: These guys who are adored by millions around the world.
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Speaker 1: Are we supposed to read anything other than maybe one
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Speaker 1: of the options is robes. Growing up in the shadow
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Speaker 1: of an intern national star is difficult.
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Speaker 3: It is, and in both of those families you have
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Speaker 3: two international stars like you are never, as a child
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Speaker 3: of theirs, going to be normal or have a normal experience.
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Speaker 3: And certainly, like you said, living in this shadow of
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Speaker 3: will you ever rise to the level of your parents? Certainly,
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Speaker 3: how could you surpass their fame, their fortune? And maybe
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Speaker 3: that just feels hopeless, and maybe there's anger and resentment.
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Speaker 2: Ironically, most people.
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Speaker 3: Would think, what a dream to be raised with money
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Speaker 3: to spare and VIP treatment everywhere you go. But obviously
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Speaker 3: it has another darker side, obviously, And look this is
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Speaker 3: and I felt for David Beckham because obviously he's doing
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Speaker 3: interviews about getting this big, amazing honor, and I actually
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Speaker 3: wanted to read for you what he said in his speech,
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Speaker 3: because he he was very humbled and very grateful, but
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Speaker 3: of course he's asked questions about why Brooklyn isn't there.
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Speaker 3: First his speech, he said, my parents and my sisters
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Speaker 3: who always supported my dreams, Victoria, my amazing wife for
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Speaker 3: thirty years, without whom none of this would be possible
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Speaker 3: or as enjoyable. And my beautiful children, who are the
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Speaker 3: reason that I get out of bed in the morning. Kids,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to get emotional now. I hope you bring
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Speaker 3: my grandchildren here one day and tell them about a
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Speaker 3: boy who dreamed big. To make you all proud is
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Speaker 3: my greatest achievement. I'm so grateful for you all. So
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Speaker 3: he's literally dedicating this to his kids. And of course
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Speaker 3: people are going to ask about Brooklyn. Where's Brooklyn? And
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Speaker 3: so he just said that matter is private. He just
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Speaker 3: shut down the questions asked about Brooklyn. And then the headlines.
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Speaker 3: Just this is what I hate all said David Beckham
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Speaker 3: refuses to answer where Brooklyn is or why Brooklyn was absent,
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Speaker 3: and that becomes the headline instead of the fact that
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Speaker 3: he was being honored for his achievement.
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Speaker 2: And so that is what you know.
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Speaker 3: And I don't know if Brooklyn thinks, yes, I got them,
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Speaker 3: But that's just it's sad because that is always going
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Speaker 3: to be hanging over his head. And that's the last
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Speaker 3: thing I think David Beckham or Brad Pitt care about,
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Speaker 3: Like the headlines. I'm only assuming that they would want
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Speaker 3: nothing more than a relationship with their children, like that
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Speaker 3: would be the human most obvious thing that they would want.
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Speaker 3: Forget about the headlines, but those headlines have to sting
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Speaker 3: and knowing everywhere you go in every interview you take,
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Speaker 3: you're gonna get asked and it's just tough.
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Speaker 1: That was a great answer by mister Beckham. However, that private,
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Speaker 1: that matter is.
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Speaker 2: Private, matter is private.
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Speaker 1: Forwards, that was what you know, what I'm saying. That
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Speaker 1: is remarkable, That matter is private. Next question, That is
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Speaker 1: well done. But again that's just like you said, their dads.
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Speaker 2: I have sympathy for both of them, and but we
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Speaker 2: don't know.
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Speaker 1: But you tell them, we're sitting from afar looking. We
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Speaker 1: have no idea. All six of those kids might have
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Speaker 1: horror stories. Yeah we have. I have no idea. Might
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Speaker 1: You're right, and that all of us would never go
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Speaker 1: to another brandfit movie. Who knows. But again, it's behind
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Speaker 1: closed doors. It's family and family is tough. Family is ugly,
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Speaker 1: and when what happened in that house sometimes becomes public
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Speaker 1: or these kids have been headlines since before they were born.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and they have very public personas, whether they want
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Speaker 3: to have them or not.
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Speaker 2: And now we've got.
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Speaker 3: Kids who have access to social media where they can
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Speaker 3: say anything, do anything, repeat anything, and maybe even make
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Speaker 3: up whatever they want to justify how they feel. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: this is one of the negative sides of social media
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Speaker 3: when kids use it to air their grievances, I don't
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Speaker 3: think if they were any older, if they had a
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Speaker 3: little time lived, a little more life, would they be willing,
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Speaker 3: even if they're angry at their father, to air it
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Speaker 3: the way they did.
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Speaker 2: Both on both sides, it's.
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Speaker 3: Tough and I can only hope that they'll regret that
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Speaker 3: eventually and perhaps that could be a way forward to reconciliation.
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Speaker 2: But we always appreciate you listening to us. Everyone. I'm
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Speaker 2: Amy Robot alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.