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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Cory Bowman, Boot Camp, Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Not just scrolling through the events of the day.
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  Speaker 2: They want to hear this Venezuelan crude oil check in
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  Speaker 2: on fifty five KRC the talk station.
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  Speaker 3: They said, snow, I gotta get the run about.
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  Speaker 4: Like that.
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  Speaker 1: Five o five does they do have KRC the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday, some says it is who it is Friday?
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  Speaker 1: Can you shoot an ice agent? Hmmm, let's find out.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Everybody appreciate you tuning in the fifty five
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  Speaker 1: KR Morning Show. My name is Brian Thomas. I am
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  Speaker 1: the host of the fifty five KARSE Morning Show and
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  Speaker 1: this is my twentieth year. As a matter of fact,
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: no one acknowledges that Jojese, you know that we had
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  Speaker 1: a meeting the other day. Not a word. Nobody acknowledged
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  Speaker 1: your thirtieth either. Welcome to the club, Thomas. Don't give
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  Speaker 1: me the boo hoos, Ediehow let us see here? What's
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  Speaker 1: coming to the Vibe Casey Morning Show where I asked
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  Speaker 1: answer the question can you shoot an ice agent? Tech
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  Speaker 1: Friday with Dave had her Highlawmaker's Crackdown on AI deep fakes.
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  Speaker 1: Dave had her at six thirty Every Friday, It's appointment
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  Speaker 1: listening folks, He'll try to keep you out of trouble.
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  Speaker 1: I had a conversation with my mom the other day
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  Speaker 1: about this, her apps and things, and you know, recognizing
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  Speaker 1: that you are ignorant when it comes to things tech.
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  Speaker 1: I'm speaking also about myself, and that you are operating
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  Speaker 1: at a disadvantage because there's so many dangerous people out there,
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  Speaker 1: so many people who want to steal from you or
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  Speaker 1: otherwise engage in lawful conduct just by well hoovering up
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  Speaker 1: all the information on your cell phone because you thought
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  Speaker 1: you needed an app. Listen to Dave. Hundreds of millions
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  Speaker 1: of audio devices need a patch to prevent hacking, says Dave.
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  Speaker 1: And topic number three and these hackers targeting our infrastructure.
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  Speaker 1: Former mayoral candidate Corey Bowman still a pastor and still
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  Speaker 1: a businessman. He's going to join the program at seven
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  Speaker 1: oh five. What's going on in the city. What's going
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  Speaker 1: on to the West end? City of Cincinnati finally doing their job?
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  Speaker 1: Oh look, Sharyl Long, city manager finally is going to
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  Speaker 1: get her annual review, which is a in the city charter,
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  Speaker 1: is supposed to be done every year. They didn't do
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  Speaker 1: one last year. So anyway, maybe we'll talk about that
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  Speaker 1: with Corey Diana Tella's Turning Port USA chapter coming to
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  Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati first meeting on January twenty eighth.
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  Speaker 1: We get the details from Diana eight oh five, and
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  Speaker 1: then finally in in the program with Jack Winsor, editor
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  Speaker 1: in chief of the Hio Press Network and host of
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  Speaker 1: The Windsor Report. You can find them online where you
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  Speaker 1: get your podcasts. What's Worse Fraud in California, Minnesota or Ohio. Jay,
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  Speaker 1: If you're out there, I think you might want to
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  Speaker 1: listen to what Jack has to say. Coming up at
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  Speaker 1: eight thirty, Hio Teachers Union stance on ice and his
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  Speaker 1: interview with the vegu Ramaswami question, well are you prepared
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  Speaker 1: for Snowmageddon? Laughed my off yesterday. Thank you Andrew Pappas,
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  Speaker 1: former Anderson townup trustee for your comical post. Apparently he
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  Speaker 1: had been at Kruger, he said, Kruger looks like the
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  Speaker 1: last helicopter leaving Saigod did you get your bread and milk?
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for the reminder. Top of the hour though. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so before I get to the matters of evolving counsel
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  Speaker 1: and others, I just deal with this because my God
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  Speaker 1: the headline looks, Oh my ward, are You've got to
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  Speaker 1: be kidding me. Now we've got elected officials out in
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  Speaker 1: the world. You know, this chaos by design reality. You know,
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  Speaker 1: let's just all freak out. Oh my god, Ice just
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  Speaker 1: just rounded up a five year old. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: You know, ice is the ice, this ice that and
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  Speaker 1: you know, remember George Floyd, Oh my god, hands up,
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  Speaker 1: don't shoot. And turns out we were kind of duped
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  Speaker 1: by that. You just feed the narrative. You throw something
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  Speaker 1: out there into the world. You don't bother the fact
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  Speaker 1: check it, or you insist on not fact checking it
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  Speaker 1: because well you can hide behind not fact checking it
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  Speaker 1: down the road. But you have stirred the pot of descent,
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  Speaker 1: and you have supported your own ideological cause by stirring
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  Speaker 1: the pot of descent. That's the goal. It isn't getting
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  Speaker 1: the truth out in the world. It's just to get
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  Speaker 1: you angry and mad and divide you, which is clearly
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  Speaker 1: going on here. So as I stare at the headline,
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  Speaker 1: Arizona Democratic Attorney General blasted for dangerous claim residents can
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  Speaker 1: shoot ice agents under state laws. Well, honestly, that is
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  Speaker 1: kind of the truth. What no, I'm not against ice
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  Speaker 1: doing their job, and I was pleased to see the
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  Speaker 1: one point two trillion dollar spending package we just passed
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  Speaker 1: yesterday out of the House includes twenty million dollars as
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  Speaker 1: paltry as sum as that might be. I suspect that's
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  Speaker 1: enough money to buy the body cameras that are going
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  Speaker 1: to be worn by Immigrations and Customs officers as well
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  Speaker 1: as border patrol officers. You know what, it's a good
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  Speaker 1: thing because those body cameras quite often, I think, more
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  Speaker 1: times than not, prove the officer was right in doing
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  Speaker 1: what they were doing. Oh my god, that person ran over.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Oh my god, that person was shot in
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  Speaker 1: the head. She wasn't doing anything. Well, you get the
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  Speaker 1: body camera footage from the officer that was standing in
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  Speaker 1: front of the car. Yeah, you too might have felt
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: fearful for your life ending given that a four thousand
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  Speaker 1: plus pound vehicle was accelerating at you. Depends upon your perspective.
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  Speaker 1: How about the instant replaying football games? How many times
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  Speaker 1: you got to look at that in a multiple different
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  Speaker 1: angles before they can finally conclude whether or not the
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  Speaker 1: official on the field called it right. Right. Body cameras
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  Speaker 1: good thing. So I'm looking forward to that, and I
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  Speaker 1: hope the officers out there in the world don't have
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  Speaker 1: any problem wearing them. Again, it's more for your protection
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  Speaker 1: than protection of the American public or the illegal immigrant
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  Speaker 1: community for that matter. Anyway. Arizona's Democratic Attorney General Chris
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  Speaker 1: Mays being interviewed by I guess their twelve news anchor,
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  Speaker 1: a guy named Bram Reznik. We'll just give him Crowdit
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  Speaker 1: happened earlier this week, explaining how and under what circumstances
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  Speaker 1: it might be justified to shoot an ice officer. And
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  Speaker 1: the parameters are pretty damn tight as well as they
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  Speaker 1: should wish as they should be. And these parameters no
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  Speaker 1: different from well, the guy breaking into your house that
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  Speaker 1: isn't an ice officer or a police officer anybody. They said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a kind of recipe for disaster because
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  Speaker 1: you have these masked federal officers with very little identifications,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes no identification, wearing plain clothes and masks. We have
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  Speaker 1: a standiard ground law they do in Arizona. That's stating
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  Speaker 1: a fact if you reasonably believe your life is in
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  Speaker 1: danger and you're in your house or your car or
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  Speaker 1: on your property, that you can defend yourself with lethal force.
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  Speaker 1: I've been saying this. I mean from an attorney's perspective,
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  Speaker 1: the justification for lethal force force is that eminent reasonable.
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  Speaker 1: This is the most important word, I think in the
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  Speaker 1: entire combination package. If you decided whether to use deadly force,
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  Speaker 1: am I reasonably under the belief that my life is
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  Speaker 1: in peril? Put the it's the reasonable man standard. I
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  Speaker 1: guess they call it reasonable person standard now in the
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  Speaker 1: modern parlance, because we of course have to welcome and
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge that there's more than just a man out there. Fine,
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  Speaker 1: but would anybody else in your circumstance also come to
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  Speaker 1: the conclusion that you are in eminent apprehension of grievous
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  Speaker 1: bodily harm or death. That's the basic standard for use
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  Speaker 1: of force. Now, does that say anything about the person
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  Speaker 1: who has placed you in that peril? Does it say
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  Speaker 1: anything about the whether or not that person who is
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  Speaker 1: representing this concern for your life or who's presented this
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  Speaker 1: concern for your life? Does it say anything about unless
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  Speaker 1: they're wearing a police officer's uniform, or unless they are
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  Speaker 1: a member of law enforcement, or unless fill in the black,
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  Speaker 1: unless and less and less come up in your own
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  Speaker 1: list of qualifiers which take away your right to defend
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  Speaker 1: yourself from grievous bodily harm. The point being, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: with them on this, you know, as bad as it
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  Speaker 1: might be, ICE agents need to have proper identification, which
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  Speaker 1: is the protection from people getting all shooty on them.
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  Speaker 1: It would be unreasonable if you are aware that the
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  Speaker 1: person coming at you because they've got a badge on
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  Speaker 1: them and says ICE on their uniform or whatever the
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  Speaker 1: case may be. I'm not suggesting necessarily have to take
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  Speaker 1: a face mask off, but if they are clearly identified
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  Speaker 1: as a law enforcement officer and they have announced that
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  Speaker 1: they are law and I think that quite often happens,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, drop the firearm, or
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  Speaker 1: Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, we're coming in. We have a
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  Speaker 1: warrant immagery. That's the distinction that's going on here. And
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  Speaker 1: the host says, well, I want to be careful with
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  Speaker 1: that and understand what you're saying, because you know how
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  Speaker 1: that could be interpreted right by putting a dangerous headline
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  Speaker 1: up there. Arizona down blasted for encouraging people to shoot
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  Speaker 1: ICE agents, and that's not what she said, said she
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  Speaker 1: was not directly encouraging individuals to shoot the officers, but said,
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  Speaker 1: if law enforcement couldn't be identified that person who is
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  Speaker 1: making this decision about the use of deadly force, you
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  Speaker 1: have taken away an element of that person to make
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  Speaker 1: a more rational choice. Rationally speaking, it would be unreasonable
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  Speaker 1: to interfere with the law enforcement's duties. It would be
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  Speaker 1: unreasonable for you to shoot someone who is exercise their
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  Speaker 1: authority as a law enforcement office, sir. But in order
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  Speaker 1: to know whether they are or not, they need to
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  Speaker 1: be pre identified as such. I don't want any one
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  Speaker 1: of these ICE agents to get shot, which is why
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  Speaker 1: I'm encouraging them to yes, properly don a uniform or
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  Speaker 1: present appropriate ID identification so you don't get shot. Because yes,
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  Speaker 1: Arizona law does allow you to stay on your ground.
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  Speaker 1: It does allow you to use deadly force when deadly
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  Speaker 1: force is reasonable. Now, the host even said if she
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  Speaker 1: asked if the ag was telling Arizonas to shoot agents,
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  Speaker 1: she responded, well, no, but again, if you're being attacked
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  Speaker 1: by someone who is not identified as a peace officer, how.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if somebody comes at me wearing a mask
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I'm a gun owner and I can't
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  Speaker 1: tell whether or not they're a police officer. What am
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  Speaker 1: I supposed to do? She asked, that's a legitimate point,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll give you personal aneidote about this. My son,
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  Speaker 1: when he was a student at the High State Universe,
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  Speaker 1: he mind his own time. He's got his own apartment
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  Speaker 1: with a roommate. Middle of the night, he was sound
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  Speaker 1: asleep in his bed, three o'clock in the morning roughly,
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  Speaker 1: if I recall correctly. He wakes up and there is
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  Speaker 1: a blank and police officer in his room. And he
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  Speaker 1: didn't know as a police officer. Why no badge, no uniform,
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  Speaker 1: plane clothes, had a windbreaker on standing in his bedroom.
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  Speaker 1: No warrant, They just entered the house. Why Apparently the
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  Speaker 1: next they told him the next door neighbor's house got robbed,
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  Speaker 1: and they just sort of guessed that maybe my son
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  Speaker 1: and his roommate might have been involved with it. No,
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  Speaker 1: no probable cause, no warrant, entering a home without the
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  Speaker 1: proper authorization, no announcement ahead of time. Hey it's law enforcement,
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  Speaker 1: we're coming in. Nothing. And I had a conversation with
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  Speaker 1: the police department. I said, are you guys out of
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  Speaker 1: your mind. He's an adult. He could have owned a firearm.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, if it's me waking up in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of night with a at three o'clock in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: with a person standing in the middle of the room
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  Speaker 1: not wearing a badge or a uniform or announcing themselves
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  Speaker 1: of saying, don't don't get out of hand, man, it's
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  Speaker 1: just me. I'm a law enforcement officer, then I would
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  Speaker 1: have shot him because it would have been reasonable for
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  Speaker 1: me to fear for my life. What the hell is
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  Speaker 1: the stranger doing to my bedroom at three o'clock in
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  Speaker 1: the morning. You can balance these interests. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: in this world of reporting, oh my god, the Democratic
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  Speaker 1: Attorney General is telling people to shoot ice officers. No,
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, actually she had a pregush darning a
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  Speaker 1: good job of explaining what the state of the law
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  Speaker 1: is and maybe suggesting the ice Because of the state
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  Speaker 1: of the law, it's extremely important for you to make
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  Speaker 1: yourself known so you don't get hurt and you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to run back into court and make the reasonable argument,
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: you know. And I got to criticize the Republican running
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  Speaker 1: against this maze person. Rodney Glassman wants the age job,
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  Speaker 1: claiming she is openly are you suggesting how to kill
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  Speaker 1: ice officers and avoid prosecution under Arizona stand your ground law? No,
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  Speaker 1: I assure you, if you shoot one of these folks,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna be in court and you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: explain to the judge and the jury why it is
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  Speaker 1: that what you did was reasonable. If that officer was
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  Speaker 1: properly identified, had a uniform on, a badge, on anything
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  Speaker 1: like that, you are no longer in safe territory. You
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  Speaker 1: are in unreasonable land, and you will be prosecuted for it.
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  Speaker 1: and the film New Hampshire Gary. Happy Friday to you, brother.
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  Speaker 1: I just got a I thought it was rather interesting
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  Speaker 1: He's a fellow New Hampshire native and residence. So I
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  Speaker 1: other states in my program. It's just awesome. New Hampshire, Gary,
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  Speaker 5: Well, well, thank you, Brian. No, but welcome. Welcome to
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  Speaker 5: the club there, Kirk.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, let's have a dialogue. He's from Hua.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I live less than ten miles away from Nashville.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe. Yeah, it looks like based on his head gear,
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  Speaker 1: looks like he's a member of the American military or
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  Speaker 5: Know what, we could start the club. I could have
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  Speaker 5: a fellowship up here for following, Brian, have a monthly
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  Speaker 1: That would be great. And you know, only have you
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  Speaker 1: you in New Hampshire. Maybe we can get Mississippi James,
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  Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of displaced Cincinnatians who live in Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 1: quite a few folks down there listening as well. So
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  Speaker 1: I'd shout out to every single one of you. All
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  Speaker 1: right anyway, But getting a Harry eyeball from Joe on time,
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  Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Gary, what is on your mind? What drove
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  Speaker 1: you to call me this morning?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just gonna take you on a little. I
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  Speaker 5: still love you, but I'm still gonna take you on
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  Speaker 5: what I see, what's going on the way you explain
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  Speaker 5: shooting Ice or at least self defense, okay was reasonable
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  Speaker 5: and expected. But what we really see with the attacks
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  Speaker 5: on Ice, we see a bomb and I'm gonna call
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  Speaker 5: him a bomb thrower. But they used to be called breakers,
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  Speaker 5: and they're trying to get confusion and people upset more
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  Speaker 5: so that more people attack Ice.
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  Speaker 1: All this crime. Only attacking Ice is a crime, and
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  Speaker 1: you will get arrested for attacking Ice. And this is
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  Speaker 1: not some sort of you know, justification for engaging in
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  Speaker 1: interference with law enforcement. The point being for me is
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  Speaker 1: if you're a damn ice agent or you're a police officer,
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  Speaker 1: identify yourself and you can't get shot, or if they
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  Speaker 1: do get shot, that person is going to go to
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  Speaker 1: prison for manslaughter at minimum.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. My whole thing is if they would have explained
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  Speaker 5: it that way, then it would have been totally reasonable.
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  Speaker 1: That's what she did. Well, I just quoted her.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think just by throwing this out that
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  Speaker 5: she's trying to throw a bomb and going, hey, you
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  Speaker 5: know people who some of these people are not reasonable.
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  Speaker 5: They're not clearly they're or less useful idiots. Now that
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  Speaker 5: mean that mean way, but they really are. And you
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  Speaker 5: know they're running over ice, their docting ice, they're going
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  Speaker 5: around chasing ice with their cars breaking.
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  Speaker 1: I can't andy into that, Gary, And all of that
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  Speaker 1: is unlawful activity, and none of it involves unidentified ICE officers.
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  Speaker 1: They see them coming a mile away, They know dan
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  Speaker 1: well who the harassing and who they are committing crimes
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  Speaker 1: against while harassing them. It is an isolated specific topic
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  Speaker 1: that this ag was asked about by the interviewer. Under
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  Speaker 1: what circumstances might be castle doctor and or standard ground
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  Speaker 1: law apply and does it apply in the case of
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  Speaker 1: an ice agent. The answer, simply and plainly, although there
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  Speaker 1: were more words used, is if they've identified themselves, if
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  Speaker 1: they if the person who's claiming to be using reasonable
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  Speaker 1: force knew that the person was an ICE officer, then no,
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  Speaker 1: you can't shoot them. That would falls into the category
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  Speaker 1: of unreasonable. That's the state of the law. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: bringing it out because yes, the headline, I'm oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe the ag did this looks like it's
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  Speaker 1: yet another illustration of them stirring the pot. But sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it isn't, and there may be a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: it in there, but at least the law was properly explained,
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  Speaker 1: as I understand. If five twenty seven right now, stick
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  Speaker 1: phone at some point some more predicting snow as much
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  Speaker 1: as what twenty five inches? You know, it depends on
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: which point in the week and which weathersite. Talking to
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  Speaker 1: my poor mom the other day, she was just trying
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: to get a p accurate weather forecast and looking at
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: different apps and everything, and she said every different site
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I went to there was a different temperature and a
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: different expectation for snow. Actually wrote there's local story on
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: that timing adjustments for snowstorm this weekend. It's like one
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: day they say we're going to get one to three inches,
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  Speaker 1: the next day they say we're going to get twenty three.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So anyway, we're somewhere beuteen, I guess still six and
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  Speaker 1: eight and a little bit of movement in the weather
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  Speaker 1: pattern apparently impacts the snowfall dramatically. So say it's the meteorologist.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like alchemy to me, but we'll deal with it. Tom,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show, Tom one. There's Tom two
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: on the phone. Hold on other Tom, welcome back and
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: happy Friday.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, good morning. I'm just I'm pretty sure I'm wanna
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: be able to get home from Indianapolis today.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's gonna a problem.
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: As long as I get home today and we get
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: we get hunkered down, then bring on the snow and
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: then it'd be done. That way I could dig myself
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: out and get back to work next week. Oh really no,
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: but you know, time, as we've discussed, timing is everything.
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: This article, you talk about this, this interview with that
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: person from Arizona. I'm actually the more I listen to this,
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: the more I'm I'm seeing fault with the media person
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: bringing it up the way they did the head though.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: Whoever wrote the headline, Come on, that's where you need
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: to use some common sense. You can't put a headline
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: out there like that because how many people out there actually,
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: oh wait a minute, let me read this article, let
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: me dig into this, let me research this and see
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: what actually was said. No, they just look at the article.
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: We just roll through headlines, you know what I mean.
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: So that was that was definitely irresponsible. I think.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, it's like the headline about the Ice
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: agents nabbing and and and and arresting a five year old.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is insane, this poor five year old.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And you read the headline and ilean Omar goes out
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and tells the entire world that Ice is kicking indoors,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: going after five year olds, and as it turns out, Nope,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it was dad who's the illegal immigrant trying to run
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: away from the ice officers. He left the kid in
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the car, left him, abandoned the five year old the
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: ice age. It was merely holding onto the five year
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: old till a responsible adult could pick them up.
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: So yeah, yeah, nobody cares about the details. That just
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: care about as soon as they get a headline that
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: can that can help their side of the story, that's
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: all they cares see.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And that's why I actually was defending what the Democrat
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Attorney General had to say because it was an accurate
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: recitation of the law. Yes, you could find fault with
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the interviewer who brought the whole topic up, and you
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: can find fault with Preston Mizzle from Fox News for
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: creating the headline. But you know what headlines generate clicks.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Clicks are what it's all about, and that's all that
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: matters in this world.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: Well, I am to finish off this phone call. I
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: want to congratulate Joe on thirty years, and I want
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: to congratulate you on twenty years. And of course I
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: have now six years in radio, so six years I'm
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: talking to the voters and pleading with them. Don't vote Democrat.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: Hope everybody survives the weekend. Talk to you.
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  Speaker 1: Monday, and then Tom, I share your sentiment in that
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: regard five two three talking rather than draw Harry Eyeball
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: look from Joe Streker. I'm a ticket early slightly early
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  Speaker 1: break Tom two not to relegate your status to secondary
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: beyond the Friday the prior Tom. I'll take your call
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: as soon as we get back from this.
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  Speaker 6: Brief words fifty five KRC. Now that a new year
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  Speaker 3: Can you play John the Fisherman.
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  Speaker 1: Five point thirty nine Yes, Happy Friday? Five one three, seven,
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  Speaker 1: T phone Brian Thomas right here, looking forward to talking
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  Speaker 1: to folks. Of course, got to stack as stupid in
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: front of me after telephone calls by first.
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  Speaker 4: Nag.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Joe's got it out of his system on a Friday.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Thank you Tom for holding over the break there. Welcome
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: to the Morning Show.
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: Happy Friday, Happy Friday to you too. So I got
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: a question here if you're here on a temporary work
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: visa or student visa, or you've overstayed one and.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: You have up.
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: Celenadies or anything like that.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: Obviously, you probably haven't passed the background check to own
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: a firearm, So I don't see how you could shoot
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: somebody if you're not supposed to have a firearm in
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: the first place.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: You misunderstood the topic, Tommy, misunderstood the topic. I'm talking
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: about a US citizen in their home, in their car,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: on property where they're allowed to use a deadly force
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: to protect from reasonable apprehension of griever's bodily harm. The
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: status of lawful firearm ownership did not come up in
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the conversation with the Attorney General. Now, if you're not
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: lawfully entitled to use a firearm, that may become a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: factor and whether or not it was appropriate to use
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: deadly force. My view of life is if my life
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: is under threat, whether or not it's lawful for me
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to own a firearm. It was like when I lived
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: in Oak Park, Illinois, illegal to own a handgun in
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: ill Oak Park, Illinois? Who owned one? Anyway me? I
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: was willing to face the penalty of whatever was going
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: to befall me if I had got caught with a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: firearm and shot someone who was trying to maybe rape
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: my wife or kill me. You know, it's kind of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a balancing test. There so nothing said about the status
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: of the person squeezing the trigger. It's the circumstances whether
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: or not deadly force is justified. That was the only
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: thing that the ag was discussing. That it that must
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: have been it. Feel free to chime in on the topic.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred, eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred eight two to three dog found five fifty on
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  Speaker 1: eighteen and funds. Let's see here. Well, let's start in Ohio.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: It's quite a delicate article that I got to do
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: with here in the status too. But ohiowoman sentenced the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: thirty years to life behind bars in a case involving
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: bestiality and children. Sean and Mayfield and her husband Justin Mayfield,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: according to reporting from WFMJ, charged with rape, sexual conduct
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: with an animal, pandering, sexual oriented matter involved a minor,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and dangering children. If released, she must register as a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Tier three sex offender. According to a newsletter date of
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: January eighth, Trumbull County Prosecutor's Office said Shawn and Mayfield,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: twenty eight years old, had pleaded guilty in the child
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: rape and pornography beastiality case. Go back to June twenty
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: twenty three investigation involving Warren police acting on a child
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: porn cyber tip given by the Cuyahoga Task Force. Two
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: minor victims age three and seven involved in the sex
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: acts which were videoed, as well as sex ACX with
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a dog. Joe, you better cue up the award here.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine someone more worthy of our award.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Here.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Police also found an illegal marijuana grow operation on the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: premises Wildman, state of the assistant prosecutor Wildman. The state
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: of the defendant has given a proper testimony against the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: co defendant the case, her husband justin Mayfield. It's going
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to be cooperating with a prosecutor testify against him, who
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: is facing similar charges double Winter. This morning, Fishers also
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: satator sentencing. She'd be declared a Tier three sex offenders.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I meant so if she's released from prison after this
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: life sentence, good luck on that woman. Husband pleaded guilty
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to rape and one kind of dissemination of obscene material
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: to minors sentence forty years of life, also must register
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: as a sex offender. During sentencing, Judge Cynthia Westcott Rice
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: quote I find that the victims have suffered serious psychological
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: harm at your hands. You used your relationship with the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: victims to facilitate this offense, Prosecutor's office said. Wildman had
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: said said this case was one of the most egregious
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: he has seen. Instead, there's a mountain of evidence, including
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: statements from others and text messages where the couple allegedly
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: both did about abusing their children. Let them have it,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Joe Jack.
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: Perios, the biggest douche of the universe, in all the galaxy.
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: There's no bigger douche than you. You've reached the top,
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: the pinnacle of doucee. Good going due. Your dreams have
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: come true.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Seventy five year old Rockland County, New York bands arrested
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: after allegedly making inappropriate sexual contact with a SPA worker.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: What seventy five years old officers shut up at about
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: ten till noon on Sunday, January eighteenth of the SPA
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: in Parkridge report of a man who made inappropriate sexual
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: contact with the female victim courd to the Parkridge Police.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Victim report of the man asked what services were offered,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: whether the SPA worker could be fully nude while making
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the inquiry, the man allegedly placed his hand on the
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: breast of the SPA worker without consent. Man asked to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: leave the business and was reluctant to do so before
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: fleeing the scene after the SPA called nine point one.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Witnesses provided New York license plate number, description of the vehicle,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: which is broadcast as surrounding jurisdictions about twenty minutes till
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: one officer Carlos Alicia located the vehicle going northbound. Doesn't
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: matter what road, does it? Kinder karmak if you're keeping tracked.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Ryber identified as seventy five year old David Newman of Monsey,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: New York, taken into custody taking the Parkridge Police Department,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: charged with fourth degree criminal sexual contact. Newman released penning
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: a court appearance scheduled in February. Police emphasize that the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: charge is in accusation and that the defendant is presumed
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Oh it's a he said, she said thing. Do you
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: think he was thinking about a happy ending? Joe, he
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: was in the wrong SPA. Yeah, that was that one
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: down the street. The storefront that looks kind of dilapidated
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and run down. That's where he thought he was. Five
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  Speaker 1: of stupid. Oh Joe told me about that weather report
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: you're reading. If you don't know that it's going to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: be snowing this weekend, you're living under a rock. And
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: guess who's going to be going to Kroger after he
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: gets off the work today. Yes, I have been given
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the assignment. My wife told me yesterday you know you're
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: going to be going to great say she works during
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the day. So I got to Krogger run. You got
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to go to joe Is bread and milk on the list?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Are bread and milk on the list? Yes, of course
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: they are. Madisonville, Kentucky. Wow, these are the times when
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I really wish we had visuals here because you'd love
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the mugshot. Anyway, Madisonville police arrested a man and if
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: they say he was walking down the street completely naked,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: it is Friday, folks. You knew that was coming, claiming
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: he was covered with spiders and that the devil was
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: talking to him. Drugs are made. Yes, I think that's
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: where we are. Joe Jergger Cord of the Poor two
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: thirty eight. In the afternoon Tuesday, officer called for an
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: indecent exposure run. Thanks to a bystander, a man was
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: seen on South Franklin Street and Cardwell Avenue with no
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: clothes on and carrying a pair of denim of blue jeans.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: The man, I was identified James Daniels, no relation to Jack,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: claimed wasn't wearing any clothes and that he was covered
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: with spiders. Daniels also claimed he didn't know where he
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: was because quote the devil had not told him clothes
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: quote Corta Ply. Daniels detained and while in the cruiser,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: he claimed he was on fire and that the devil
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: was yelling in his ear.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: As this tradition.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Check out this conclusion. Thank you, Zach McKnight from the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: tri State homepage. Here's a quote from Zach in the
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: article that I'm doing the reporting. The officer suspected Daniels
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: was under the influence of something. Bold statement. He was
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: taken it to the Hopkins County Jail. Hopkins County Jail
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: on charge with public intoxicate, intoxication and indecent exposure. Fair enough,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: here's a brief one got to Clearfield County Authority say
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: a woman now facing charges that she was reportedly caught
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: aked in public while screaming. January eighth, police called the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: address on Forest Avenue, City of Dubois for an alleged
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the servants caused by a woman named Amanda sullen work.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: She's been accused of threatening the officers repeatedly resisting her
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: ask Authority say home video surveillance shows her screaming and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: yelling explicit language at passing cars as tradition before the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: cops showed up again while naked. I charged with several
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: misdemeanors for terroristic threats, indecent exposure, disorderly conduct. Joe's taking
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: a look up on Facebook right now. He's got to
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: ask her to be a friend. Pittsburgh Go to Pittsburgh, PA.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Man rescued from a river outside Accuser Stadium after allegedly
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: stealing a harp. Yeah like harpo marks the harp the
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: music that they even make harps anymore anyway, stealing a harp,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: getting naked, and then jumping into the river. Pittsburgh EMS,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: River Rescue, Pittsburgh Police, Pittsburgh Your Fire, and the DC
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  Speaker 1: and R Rangers all showed up at this call A
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Point State Park on Wednesday for reports of this man
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: in the water. According to the reports, the man shut
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: up at the park with a thirty thousand dollars harp,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: which they later discovered had been stolen. He then left
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the harp in the park, disrobed and jumped into the water.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Bergency personnel. We're able to rescue the man from the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: water provide medical care before taking him over to the
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Mercy Hospital and stable condition. He was able to locate
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the owner of the harp, which they say was stolen
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: from a residence in the Bethel Park area. Bethel Park
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Police handling the burglary incident while the DC and our
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: rangers are taking care of the receiving stolen property. It's
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: a big heart, meant, he's huge. I see I'm looking
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: at a picture, but I was waiting for that too,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Joe Streker stick around six o'clock hour. We got stuff
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: to talk about between the top and the bottom. And
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: then I hope you know by now appointment listening with
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  Speaker 4: Said, snow, I gotta get the run about like that.
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  Speaker 1: Right out ahead of me heading over to Kroger. Very
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: happy Friday, Brian Thomas right here, glad to be. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I love my Fridays, and I love Fridays even more
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  Speaker 1: so because we get tech Friday every Friday at six
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  Speaker 1: us all about eighth five mark January twenty eighth down,
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  Speaker 1: close attention to the rampant fraud, waste and abuse in
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  Speaker 1: the in the state of Ohio. Did you get your
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: groceries yet? Snow's coming. No, we're not going to get
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: twenty five inches, which is earlier in the week they said.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe still looking like maybe six to ten inches accumulation
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: depending upon where you stand. But all the meteorologists pointing out,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you know, on a moment's notice that as inches could
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: change to well maybe feet or not arrive at all.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Why the word alchemy comes to mind and David, thank
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you very much. Defending the harp from the stack is stupid, Larry,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: hold on one second. I said, an't even know they
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: made harps anymore. So he said, wait a second Creative
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: of Performing Arts, where I taught for thirty years, is
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: a very active harp program. Rich people sometimes like to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: hear harp music at rich people functions. You got to
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: chuck a lot of some naked guy stole a harp
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: and then jumped into a river. So that was the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: genesis of that. If you're just tuning in, I know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Friday and Stack is stupid trying to have some fun.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: So my response, well, I was kind of joking about
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the harps of the Again. I don't think you get
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  Speaker 1: invited to rich people functions, and if that's what goes
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: on at those events, I would not be inclined to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: attend them anyway. Larry, thank you for calling the Morning show,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: and very happy Friday to you, sir.
• 36:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, thank you about that harp story. Part of
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: that you read, part of that you read sound like
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: a country song. It said he left the harp and
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: the park and he jumped in the water.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Larry, I'll tell you what here, I am making your
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: request of joe'st record. Joe Strecker, go to chat ept
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: type that in as the suggested song lyric. Build a
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: song around what Larry just suggested. That's great, Larry, appreciate you. Uh,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you're working with me on the comedy side of a Friday, right, okay?
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: And also, how did County Village not how could that
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: guy nob got charged with he was there, all those
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: shops were barred. Apparently he was there because they arrested.
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: Could you explain to me how something like that could
• 36:59
  Speaker 9: happen to get off like that. You know what I'm
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: talking about.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: She's you know, I really apologize. You're catching me off guard.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: We got all these controversial stories about cases getting dismissed
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: or people getting retrials, and it's all become a factual
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: blur for me. So that's going to be tough for
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: me to to jump on top of that one competently, Larry.
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: So it was back in June. It happened back in June,
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: and he got the charge.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It would drop that was the one that was the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: one that had gone already gone up on appeal and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: come back. And they were talking about suppression of evidence
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: or not produce the prosecutors didn't provide all the evidence
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: over the defense that council. Is that the case you're
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: talking about, I think so, yeah, yeah, Well I will
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: acknowledge it was a pretty complicated matter, and I did
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: scratch my head a little bit considering the disposition from
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: some of the other courts who'd reviewed the case. So
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: it's all I can suggest is it's maybe just a
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: little bit more complicated. Then they just let the guy go.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there was any prosecutory on misconduct.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, they do have an obligation to provide the
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: defense council with anything related to the crime, most notably
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: any evidence that might indicate that the person being prosecuted
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: is innocent of the crime otherwise didn't have anything to
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: do with it. There was a suggestion that some of
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: that evidence was withheld, but the way I read the
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: article that had been reviewed by an Appella court and note,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: there was nothing in the so called withheld evidence that
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: had any relationship to the defendant who was on trial,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the one who was ultimately released. So apologies, Larry, I
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: really can't manage that one. This morning. If I had
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the reporting on it, I probably could refresh my recollection
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and give you more sound advice. So sorry to let
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: you down this morning, Larry. I hate having to do that.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: The harp song is already in my email. Oh that's hilarry, Larry,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: thank you very much for that one. I can't It
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: is Friday. Down on Mill Creek Road, by the water
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: tower light. Friday night was humming neon, buzzing white old Hanks,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: tavern jukebox, crying steel guitar. When a stranger hit the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: doorway like a falling star. He had river in his eyes,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: trouble in his grin. Said I'll trade you all my
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: luck for one more wind. Then the music stopped dead,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: like a screen door slam. He made a beeline for
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the stage and the church golden stand. He stole a harp.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: This is the chorus. I won't read the entire thing,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: but here's the chorus. He stole a harp, Lord stole
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: it clean, slipped past the smoke and the kerosene boots
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: hit the floor. A crowd went wild, Mama crossed herself,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Daddy just smiled. He stripped down to nothing but a
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: rebel shiver, moon on his back, jumped straight in the river. Yeah,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: some folks run, Some folks starve that night a man
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: stole a harp. I'm telling you that anyway, pivoting over
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: to something that I was complaining about. I can't remember
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: how recently it was. It was fairly recently, but it's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: still stinging, and I still feel like I'm kind of
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: walking funny talking about my Duke energy bill. Well, thank God,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and I'll give wcpo's John Matteie credit for reporting on it.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I guess he's come to the conclusion of why my
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: energy bill and so many others and folks that he
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: talked to went through the blanket roof. It's the delivery charge.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Nothing to see here, just the delivery charge, folks. Apparently
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not only the one any rights. While December and
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: January's frigid temperaters have led to increased energy usage, customers
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: are discovering that delivery charges fees that many assumed were
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: fix are also contributing significantly to the monthly bill. He
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: interviewed Kathy Devillis of Mainville. Good morning, Kathy. Her bill
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: tripled in one month. Mine didn't quite triple, but it
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: did jump by about a third or more. Claremont County
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: resident that John interviewed gentleman by the name of Michael
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: said he received a three hundred dollars bill deliver one
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one dollars. He also under the presumption
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: that those delivery fees were fixed, not usage based, but fixed.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Apparently that's not correct. So you have the supply gas
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and electricity that is one component the cost of delivering
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: through the pipes and the wires, and then you got
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: other writers and taxes which all end up being a
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: smaller portion of the bill. But how much energy you
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: use the supply side depends on your provider, right. You
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: get to choose providers, and we get this letter every year.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: You know, Sim's township has decided to go with this one.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: If you like to opt out and go with something else,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. So you can choose,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And there's actually, I guess a site where you can
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: go to do an Apples Apples comparison on the price
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: of the underlying electricity or gas that would be the
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: high public utility commissions Apples to Apple's website. There is
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I guess that's out there. You can search for it
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and find it to find out maybe you can save
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: some money on your provider. But in terms of the delivery,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: it sucks to be you, I guess because Duke says
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: it's based upon usage court to High Public Utilities Commission.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: That's you know, it's contrary to what customers believe, but
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: it's true. So John spoke with Matt Schilling, the spokesman
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: for the for PUCO. Based on distribution rates are also
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: a usage based charge since you're using Duke's wires and
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: pipelines more during cold months. Now, this is where I
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: call foul because I looked at how much I consumed
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: in gas and electricity the same calendar month last year,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: almost identical, So I didn't go off the charge with
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: consumption of more electricity and more gas essentially and apples
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: to apple comparison last year and this year during the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: same billing cycle, How in the hell do my bill
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: go up basically by about a third?
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: And is it?
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And I guess if there an engineer out there can
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: explain to me, please, if I use more electricity during
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: a given month, it's coming through the same transmission wires, right,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I'm paying for the volume of electricity that I'm using.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: But does it put more stress? Does it wear the
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: grid out more? With me using more or is that
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: once built a static cost other than you know, obviously
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: maintenance and upkeep. I would like to think, and it
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: seems logical and reasonable that if you put you know,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty megawatts through something, or you put
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: one hundred megawatts through something, that it's not going to
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: take tear apart the delivery equipment, the transmission lines. I'm
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: not causing additional wear and tear on those component parts,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: which is the only thing in my mind it was
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: justify this sliding scale for the delivery cost. Why isn't
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: it a fixed delivery charge? Don't know, Peace of God,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: but at least they at least offered an opportunity. Thanks
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: John Matterieves for explaining why we're all guarding our loins
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: waiting for the next bill to show up, which I'm
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: sure is going to be outrageous, And don't forget thank
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: you to the Green New Deal and energy policies like that.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: That bill's just going to continue to go up. Laws.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: The supplying demand also impact that. Ask our friends in
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: the northeast part of the country how they like dealing
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: with more demand than there is energy, And you can
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: ask pretty much anybody who's in the European Union the
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: same question, most notably, talk to your German friends about
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: how well that works out? Six sixteen right now, if
• 44:24
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• 44:39
  Speaker 1: snowy weekend, David, Yeah, just Strecker's going to be heading
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: off to Kruger as well. All the fixtures online of
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: empty store shelves is like, I don't know anyhow, uh.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Talking earlier, it's more about sensational ass headlines, and mine
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: was in the context of the Arizona Attorneys General talking
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: about these circumstances which justify the use of deadly force
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: in the context because the interviewer aster of ice enforcement officers. Now,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: they're like anybody else. But as long as they have
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: identified themselves and they are known to the general public
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: to be a member of law enforcement, then that takes
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: away your argument that it's a reasonable use of deadly
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: force if you think your life is in peril because
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: of an ice officer. Now, I was just viewing it
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: from the perspective of maybe an agitator US citizen who
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: might take up armed because someone is approaching them in
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: a well threatening manner. But to the caller who said, well,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: what about an illegal immigrant who's not entitle to have
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: a firearm, I believe that be an independent charge. Deadly
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: force may be justified for that individual based upon the
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: circumstances that offered, But they still would be charged for
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: possession unlawful possession of a firearm. I think one can
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: exist without the other, and that is a legal speculation
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: on my part. But the broader point was, you know,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I believe fully and again I'm proud and happy that
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: our elected officials passed that one point two trillion dollar
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: spending bill yesterday included some money to provide those officers
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: with cameras. I think that's worked out through police officers
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: advantage across this great land of ours. But going back
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: to the sensationalist headline, and that's what you came away with,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, the Attorney General is encouraging people to
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: shoot ice officers. That is not what she said. But
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: going over to this insensationalist headline, yes, read a headline
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: eleon Omar does, and then she just parrots it like
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: it's gospel truth and doesn't bother looking back into the details.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: This five year old boy detained in Minnesota Ice. Oh
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: my god, they're out of control, eleon Omar. A bunch
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: of leftists out there. Outlets including NPR, Star Tribune, Washington
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Post all amplifying the hoax, alleging that ICE detained a
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: five year old child during an arrest operation in minnesot
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: ain't what happened, but it sure makes for great headlines,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't it. Oh my god, he's evil. Ice people. Incident
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: ultimately was proven to involve ICE officers protecting the five
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: year old after his illegal immigrant father abandoned him while
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: fleeing arrest. Officers approached Adrian Alexander konekol Arias, reportedly an
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: illegal alien from Ecuador who had been released in the
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: United States about a Biden administration despite his unlawful status
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: ordered to be deported by a federal judge while driving
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: his five year old son. When the agents attempted to
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: arrest him, instead of complying, he got out and or
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: fled on foot, abandoning his own child in the vehicle.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: For the child safety, ICE officers remained, or at least
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: one remained with him while others apprehended Arius. But of
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: course you can't have something like this sit There's really
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: literally nothing to see here, nothing whatsoever. No one detained
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the five year old. Their obligation is to make sure
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: that that five year old, or anybody else under those
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: circumstances are placed with a responsible guardian and ultimately chosen
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I guess by the parent. Yeah, parents asked if they
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: want to be removed with their children. First, you want
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: your five year old to go with you to your
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: country of origin? No, okay, Then we will pursue into
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the processes in place place the child with the safe
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: person that you designate, and that's consistent with prior administration's
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: immigration enforcement as well. So nobody gave Barack Obama a
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: hard time for deporting literally millions and millions, using the
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: services of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement while doing so. Not
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: a word. What's changed over the past four administrations? Right,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: evil Orange Man is now President Erico. Anything he does,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: even if it was one hundred percent approved, sanction and
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: utilized by a prior administration, Republican or Democrat, it's automatically
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: bad and evil and we need to protest it. This
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: is how crazy Trump arrangement syndrome is six twenty six.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Right now, if you have KRCD talk station, let's get
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: some tech news coming up. Interrust its Dave had it
• 49:11
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  Speaker 1: Intrust dot com is where you find them online. Welcome back,
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  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. And your name came up like eight times
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: yesterday talking to my mom having more struggles with apps.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Mom thinks absolu the answer, and I just said, listen,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: just start for the proposition you are at a technological disadvantage.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: You don't understand the tech. And then couple with the
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: fact that there is a giant cluster of either crime
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: or nefarious types out there that want to try to
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: exploit you one way or another, either by stealing your
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: money or getting your data. That's what apps help them do.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Don't do it, I mean, just don't do it. It's
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: a simple default rule. I said. Unless you can come
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: up with enough pros for downloading the app that negate
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: those two starting points, then it's probably not worth it.
• 50:24
  Speaker 11: Well, first off, as always, thanks for having me on.
• 50:26
  Speaker 11: And the secondarily, you know, I agree with your basic premise.
• 50:30
  Speaker 11: You know, I tell people this all the time, despite
• 50:32
  Speaker 11: thirty years in tech, more than twenty five years as
• 50:35
  Speaker 11: a programmer building software apps. If you will, I have
• 50:39
  Speaker 11: the minimum number of apps on my phone. I have
• 50:41
  Speaker 11: an Apple phone. Apple tends to be more privacy and
• 50:44
  Speaker 11: security friendly than Android, but they're not without their flawos folks.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, it's just it's a.
• 50:49
  Speaker 11: Question of can I get into a more privacy and
• 50:52
  Speaker 11: security friendly situation, And that's primarily driven by their business model.
• 50:56
  Speaker 11: You know, Apple sells hardware and software. Google basically buys
• 51:02
  Speaker 11: and sells your data. As a matter of fact, just
• 51:04
  Speaker 11: to segue, while I was loading something up to get
• 51:06
  Speaker 11: ready for this, I mean Google to pay eight point
• 51:09
  Speaker 11: two five million dollars to settle lawsuit alleging children's privacy violations.
• 51:13
  Speaker 11: There's just a headline for you I happen to see.
• 51:17
  Speaker 11: So back to my phone. I have the apps that
• 51:18
  Speaker 11: came on my Apple phone, and I've probably installed may
• 51:22
  Speaker 11: be six apps that did not come on the phone.
• 51:25
  Speaker 11: Most of them are related to my job, and I
• 51:29
  Speaker 11: have things like LinkedIn which I use on a regular
• 51:31
  Speaker 11: basis primarily related to my job as well.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: So yes, less apps better.
• 51:36
  Speaker 11: Generally speaking for most people, especially if you're not real
• 51:40
  Speaker 11: privacy and tech savvy.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: So thank you very much. Mom. I told you, and
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I knew Dave you double down on that. I'm just
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: trying to keep her out of trouble, that's all. And
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: you know, there's always another source for information out there
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: that doesn't involve loading your phone up with something like
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: a simple Internet search like what's Cincinnati weather going to
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: be like over the next several days Anyway, Artificial intell
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: legins crazy stuff we use chat GPT. This morning, I
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: had Joe churn out a country music song about a
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: guy with a naked guy with a harp that was
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: from the stack of stupid. In about two seconds, he
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: had a three minute song four versus and a chorus.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: It was hilarious. He's going to post it on the
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Morning show page. But we have deep fakes in form
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: of explicit content. They're using these AI programs to create pornography,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: sometimes involving children. And now how lawmakers apparently want to
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: do something about it, Davis, Can they.
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: Well that's a really good question, thank you, So deep
• 52:29
  Speaker 11: deep when it comes to AI, you and I have
• 52:31
  Speaker 11: been talking about deep fakes for a long long time now,
• 52:33
  Speaker 11: because it was really one of the first places where
• 52:37
  Speaker 11: you could see significant potential problems coming from this technology. Right,
• 52:41
  Speaker 11: deep fakes have been around for a long time. It's
• 52:43
  Speaker 11: the idea that I can create a photo, I can
• 52:46
  Speaker 11: create a video, I can create an audio some combination
• 52:49
  Speaker 11: of all of the above that increasingly looks unbelievably real
• 52:52
  Speaker 11: or sounds unbelievably realistic.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 52:55
  Speaker 11: So again, this concept is not new, but as the
• 52:58
  Speaker 11: technology gets better and better and better and again, to
• 53:01
  Speaker 11: kind of segue off into a different, different article here,
• 53:05
  Speaker 11: Whired Dredda ran a story recently. Google and Open AI's
• 53:08
  Speaker 11: chatbots can strip women in photos down to their bikinis.
• 53:11
  Speaker 11: So kind of related, right, because a deep fake can be.
• 53:14
  Speaker 11: I just want to edit one thing in an existing
• 53:16
  Speaker 11: photo to you know, change its context, change its meaning.
• 53:20
  Speaker 11: Like this WCPO story where they show Ohio State Representative
• 53:24
  Speaker 11: Adam Matthews, who's apparently a Republican, standing near a sign
• 53:27
  Speaker 11: that says JD Vance and then AI was manipulated used,
• 53:31
  Speaker 11: it was used to manipulate that photo. And I mean, honestly,
• 53:35
  Speaker 11: looking at the photo, you know now he's standing next
• 53:38
  Speaker 11: to a Harris sign.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 53:41
  Speaker 11: There's no way I would be able to tell the
• 53:43
  Speaker 11: difference between these two photos just looking at it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: How about how lawmakers come up with legislation that's going
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: to allow them to determine what's real and what's not.
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: Well, I don't know, Brian, that's a really good question.
• 53:53
  Speaker 11: I mean, theoretically, you could say that you have to
• 53:58
  Speaker 11: put some kind of watermark in something if you use
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: AI on it. But here's the thing. Bad people, especially
• 54:05
  Speaker 11: bad people, bad actors offshore in other countries that want
• 54:08
  Speaker 11: to sow chaos and dissension in this country aren't going
• 54:11
  Speaker 11: to follow those laws. You know, could you pass a
• 54:14
  Speaker 11: law that says you could be penalized for this? Could
• 54:16
  Speaker 11: you pass a law that tries to hold these companies responsible.
• 54:19
  Speaker 11: I mean, you get into the same kind of situation,
• 54:22
  Speaker 11: you know, with it's a little different because, let's just say, Facebook, TikTok,
• 54:27
  Speaker 11: whatever isn't creating certain content necessarily, it's allowing people to
• 54:32
  Speaker 11: post it, whereas whereas these tools are actually creating things
• 54:36
  Speaker 11: from whole cloth. But offhand, I'm not really sure again,
• 54:42
  Speaker 11: other than requiring some kind of disclaimer, water mark something
• 54:48
  Speaker 11: that would say this came from some AI platform, I
• 54:52
  Speaker 11: don't really know how you would do that.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think we've reached that moment in time
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: We've been talking about day where you know, you're not
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: going to believe your own eyes anymore, you can't believe
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: organize done.
• 55:02
  Speaker 11: We're past that. Yeah, that those days are over. I mean,
• 55:05
  Speaker 11: you can't assume that anything you see or hear at
• 55:07
  Speaker 11: this point hasn't either been altered or created entirely by
• 55:12
  Speaker 11: AI and.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Much well much in the same way you can't control
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: some idiot from putting a headline on a newspaper saying
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: that ice detained a five year old boy in an
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: ice raid when that never even happened. You know, people
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: are gonna make stuff up, and they're gonna do it
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: for their own political interest, nefarious or political or whatever
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: other reason they've got, and just start not believing what
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: you see and quit taking everything for granted that it's real.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: We'll bring Dave Hatter back. Hundreds of millions of audio
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: devices need a pat. Six about KRC de talk station
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas with intrust it dot COM's Dave Hatter, nice figure,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. Joe Striker put up the link for this
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: discussion on the blog pagment you have KRC dot com.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: That's that? That is your figure, isn't.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: It talking about the photo of me? Look? I haven't
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: looked at your blog this.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, I know that I'm taking you on my
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: listening audience. That actually is a real picture of Dave Hatter.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: You can tell anyhow.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: I can't wait to see it. I pull it up
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: here while we're chatting. Yeah.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Also, try to generate traffic over the fifty five KRC
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: dot com page so they check you out and then
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: can hear what you have to say. Anyhow, Sorry to
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: take you down that road. Hundreds of millions of audio
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: devices apparently need a patch. What's this one all about?
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Is this kind of like a bluetooth thing.
• 56:32
  Speaker 11: Yes it is, and really it gets back to the
• 56:35
  Speaker 11: point though to some extent you made about your mom.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: One of the reasons why.
• 56:39
  Speaker 11: The less apps you have, the less so called smart
• 56:42
  Speaker 11: devices you have, is the less risk you have by
• 56:45
  Speaker 11: exposure through these kinds of flaws. Okay, so, just as
• 56:48
  Speaker 11: a reminder, folks, an app is nothing but software. A
• 56:51
  Speaker 11: so called smart device has software in it. You know,
• 56:54
  Speaker 11: you've heard me, and if you pay any attention to
• 56:56
  Speaker 11: this sector at all, people like me talk about packing
• 57:00
  Speaker 11: your software over and over and over. Right, the patch
• 57:03
  Speaker 11: Tuesday for Microsoft, all these sort of things. Right, if
• 57:07
  Speaker 11: something has software in it, your car, your doorbell, your refrigerator,
• 57:11
  Speaker 11: your thermostat, whatever, Guaranteed, because human beings wrote that software,
• 57:15
  Speaker 11: it will have bugs.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: It will have flaws.
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: That allow bad guys to potentially exploit the software to
• 57:22
  Speaker 11: attack the device and then potentially other devices. So again,
• 57:26
  Speaker 11: the less of this stuff you have, the less exposure
• 57:29
  Speaker 11: you have to this kind of risk. So in this case,
• 57:31
  Speaker 11: apparently Google, Now, as you know, Brian, I generally try
• 57:34
  Speaker 11: to avoid things from Google, so this isn't really a
• 57:37
  Speaker 11: problem for me. But apparently they created something called fast pair,
• 57:40
  Speaker 11: which is a protocol to allow you to basically with
• 57:43
  Speaker 11: one tap connect to you or Bluetooth devices to Android devices,
• 57:48
  Speaker 11: Chrome books, that sort of thing. Okay, So, and this
• 57:51
  Speaker 11: is the biggest part of this problem in my mind.
• 57:55
  Speaker 11: So much of these things do make your life easier
• 57:58
  Speaker 11: and more convenient to a point, right as you and
• 58:01
  Speaker 11: I discussed. I mean, I've been on this earth for
• 58:03
  Speaker 11: fifty plus years. Most of it I didn't have any
• 58:06
  Speaker 11: of this stuff, and I've done just fine. So I
• 58:09
  Speaker 11: understand the wow factor of some of this stuff. I
• 58:12
  Speaker 11: understand the convenience factor of some of this stuff. And again,
• 58:15
  Speaker 11: you know, do I want to have to go through
• 58:17
  Speaker 11: fifteen steps to hook up my wireless headphones?
• 58:19
  Speaker 12: No?
• 58:19
  Speaker 11: If I can just press one button. But pressing the
• 58:23
  Speaker 11: one button requires more software, more software because it's more guarantees,
• 58:29
  Speaker 11: more bugs, more flaws, more patching, et cetera. And so
• 58:32
  Speaker 11: my bigger point of all of this is again, your ring, doorbell,
• 58:35
  Speaker 11: your nest thermostat, all of these things have sultware in
• 58:38
  Speaker 11: them if you don't know how to configure it correctly,
• 58:41
  Speaker 11: if you don't know how to update it, and probably
• 58:43
  Speaker 11: of equal importance when they stop putting out updates for it.
• 58:46
  Speaker 11: Because they've moved on to a new product. There's risk
• 58:49
  Speaker 11: for you. So this particular case again Google fast Pair.
• 58:54
  Speaker 11: There are millions of devices out there that use this,
• 58:57
  Speaker 11: and apparently there's a fairly significant flaw. Numerous outlets have
• 59:02
  Speaker 11: written about this. So let me just to start the
• 59:04
  Speaker 11: fast pair process. A seeker phone sends a message to
• 59:07
  Speaker 11: the provider and accessory indicating it wants to pair. The
• 59:11
  Speaker 11: fast pair specification states that the accessory is not in
• 59:13
  Speaker 11: pairing mode, it should disregard the message. Some devices fail
• 59:17
  Speaker 11: to check this, allowing on authorises devices to start the
• 59:20
  Speaker 11: pairing process.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: After receiving reply, an.
• 59:23
  Speaker 11: Attacker can finish the fast pair procedure establishing a regular
• 59:26
  Speaker 11: Bluetooth pairing. Now, is this the greatest thing in the
• 59:29
  Speaker 11: world or the greatest flaw in the world. Is a
• 59:31
  Speaker 11: hacker going to be able to sit down the street
• 59:33
  Speaker 11: from you and potentially attack your devices, get to your computer,
• 59:36
  Speaker 11: get into your work environment or your bank, and steal
• 59:38
  Speaker 11: all your money. Probably not, Because Bluetooth has a real
• 59:42
  Speaker 11: You have to be fairly close for a Bluetooth device
• 59:45
  Speaker 11: to work. In most cases, it's around thirty three feet,
• 59:47
  Speaker 11: maybe a little longer, depends on all kinds of environmental conditions.
• 59:51
  Speaker 11: The big thing for me, though, is this is just
• 59:53
  Speaker 11: another example that shows you do you think the average
• 59:56
  Speaker 11: person even knows this is a flaw? And if they do,
• 59:59
  Speaker 11: do you think they know their devices might have it?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: And even if they.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 11: Do, do you think they know how to fix it?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 11: Or will the device even support fixing it? And the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 11: longer you go without fixing a flaw in your devices,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 11: whatever that might be, the more exposure you have because
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 11: more bad actors will learn about the flaw, and depending
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 11: on what it is and how it can be accessed,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 11: it creates risk for you and your family, your business,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 11: your work, et cetera. So if you have Google devices,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 11: I suggest you look into this. It would be good
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 11: to patch these flaws. But again, in many cases this
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 11: is some sort of third party headphones or something. It's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: a tricky one, but it gets to the heart of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 11: what I keep trying to tell people all the time.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 11: All of this stuff does not but it does not
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 11: favor the consumer right. It's speed to market, market share,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 11: ease of use. The stuff goes out of life soon,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 11: meaning it doesn't get updates from the vendor, you don't
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 11: know how to set it up right, you don't know
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 11: how to keep it updated. I don't know when it
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 11: goes into life. The less of this stuff you have
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 11: until the business model changes, the better off you will be.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 11: And this is just yet another of dozens and dozens
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 11: and dozens of these examples. Yeah, why the less so
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: called smart devices, apps, etcetera.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: You have, the better off.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: You are, Amen, underscore in bold underline, Tell your friends
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: and neighbors six forty seven right now, one more with
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: intrust its Dave Hatter. Now we can hear from corner
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: sixty two fifty five Kercity talk station Brian Thomas Woo
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. Interest it dot com is where you find him,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: and also on LinkedIn. You go to LinkedIn dot com
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: just search for Dave Hatter. He has all the articles
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: that he talks about during this segment of the program,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: and that's some that's a worthy endeavor to stay up
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: with him throughout the week as well. Chinese hackers again
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: at Chinese Communist Party up to no good again, Dave Hatter.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know this is a chocker, Brian.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 11: And also you know all this stuff we talk about
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 11: on here, I'm sharing on X two if X is
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 11: easier for people. But you know, I'm trying to throughout
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 11: them week put out as much information about this stuff
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: that I think will be helpful for people, to help
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 11: people understand the risks and hopefully make smarter decisions. Because
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 11: at the end of the day, Brian, if you make
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: a risk informed decision, you understand what you're signing up
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 11: for with all this stuff. You read the terms of service,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 11: the privacy policy, all of which, as you know, will
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 11: be an eighty page legal mumbo jumbo confuse opoly, and
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 11: you decide to proceed. Well, you're an adult, okay, have
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 11: at it exactly right. My issue was all of this
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 11: stuff at the end of the day really is again
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 11: it does not favor the consumer, as I mentioned in
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 11: the last segment, and most people don't really understand the risk,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 11: both the cybersecurity risk or the privacy risk of this stuff.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 11: So with all of that said, yeah, here we are again.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 11: Probably in the last five or six years, you and
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 11: I have discussed this pretty much relentlessly because it just
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 11: keeps hitting the news. Right, So, headline Chinese hackers targeting
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 11: high value North American critical infrastructure, Cisco says for people
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 11: who don't know, you know, Cisco is one of the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 11: largest and oldest major tech companies out there. They make
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 11: a lot of the equipment to powers the Internet and
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 11: the networking infrastructure that makes this work, switches, routers, et cetera.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 11: So you know this these are these are people that
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 11: know what they're talking about, is my point.
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  Speaker 4: Again.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 11: Cisco has been around for a long time, and you know,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 11: in the business from an enterprise grade professional standpoint, they're
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 11: you know, one of the vendors chosen most often by people.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 11: So we've heard DHS warn't about this. We've heard we've
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 11: heard FBI warn't about this, We've heard scission worn about this.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 11: SISS of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, part of DHS.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 11: I have been trying to explain to people for a
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 11: long time. When the Internet was originally designed back in
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 11: the late sixties and early seventies, right, the underlying protocols,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 11: the technologies that make it work, we're not designed with
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 11: security in mind. Right, they were disclad they could make
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 11: it work at all. Over time, as it's expanded and
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 11: people have loaded more and more stuff on the Internet,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 11: and now we've basically live in this digital world, all
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 11: powered by the technology that drives the Internet. I mean,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 11: you don't even really hear people talk about the Internet
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 11: verse se anymore. And internet really just means inter network, right,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 11: a network connected to another network connected to another network.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 11: That's really all it is. All these different networks that
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 11: are connected. They all use the same protocols or rules
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 11: to talk to each other. And all of that stuff
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 11: again was designed back at a time when security was
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 11: not a concern. So you know, fast forward to now
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 11: you've got all this mission critical stuff. Our entile society
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 11: runs off of this. And while you can apply security
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 11: to this, typically you're trying to retro fit it in.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 11: It's creating friction, It creates costs, that causes problems. Right,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 11: So you've got a situation too where as you stack
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 11: more and more stuff on this going back to the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 11: point I made before, more and more software, more and
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 11: more flaws, it creates opportunities for people that really understand
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 11: how this stuff works to try to exploit these flaws,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 11: to try to expl the inherent vulnerabilities in this stuff
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 11: if it's not patched and it's not set up correctly. Right,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 11: And this is just another example. So here from this article,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 11: Chinese hackers successfully breached multiple critical infrastructure organizations in North
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 11: America over the last year using a combination of compromised
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 11: credentials and exploitable servers. Researchers at Cisco Talos found Tellos
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 11: is their security focus group. They research this stuff, they
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 11: look for flaws, they try to help other vendors fix
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 11: these problems. Now there's two key points there. Exploitable servers.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 11: It's not patched, it doesn't have the latest updates, it's
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 11: not set up correctly. It has an inherent flaw that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 11: can't be patched because it's too old and it needs
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 11: to be replaced. But compromise credentials. This gets back to
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 11: people use bad passwords. They use the same bad passwords
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 11: across multiple systems. They don't use multi factor authentication or
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 11: other technologies that can make it more difficult to log in,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 11: hence account takeover attacks. So, even though I talk about
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 11: this stuff colin blue in the face, you know you
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 11: see these examples.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Out in the real world.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 11: Now, is it bad, Brian if hackers do an account takeover,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 11: Because if you have a bad password and no MFA
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 11: get into your company email and eventually steal all your
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 11: money and.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: Put you out of business. Yeah, that's pretty bad. But
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: is it.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 11: Is it even worse when they can get into the
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 11: electrical grid or the water systems, or let's say, uh,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 11: you know some railroads somewhere and cause a train full
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 11: of chlorine gas to derail.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot worse.
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  Speaker 1: You call that a rhetorical question, Dave. We're out of time,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: my friend. You want to sum it up, the critical
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: infrastructure critically.
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  Speaker 4: We got to fix it, Brian gott to fix it.
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  Speaker 1: Priority number one for all elected officials from local to federal.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. Yes, Dave had our intrust it
• 1:06:47
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• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: your business computer needs. Find him at LinkedIn dot com
• 1:06:51
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• 1:06:53
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• 1:06:56
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  Speaker 4: Dave.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Have a great week and stay
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: safe and we'll look forward to next Friday again. Coming
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  Speaker 1: up Corey Bowman with well stuff and thinks seven oh
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: seven Here for you, Bob Karsite talk station. Happy Friday,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas right here. I always enjoy talking to a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: friend that I made during the campaign last year, Corey Bowman.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: He was running from Mayor. I represented a different way
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: of going, not continuing down the same path, doing the
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: as the definition of stupidity. And yet in spite of
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: the fact that a lot of people registered to vote,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: one in four registered voters showed up to vote, and
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: of course, basically across the board, with a couple of
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: notable exceptions like California and Riverside and Sailor Park, everybody
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: went with Mary av to have Purvoll and the current
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: cast characters we have representing the city of Cincinnati to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: the extent they are Welcome back, Corey Bowman Man, it's
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: great to have you on the morning show, and a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: happy Friday to you.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 8: Hey, good morning, Brian, Happy Friday.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Happy to do it, and happy to mention your church,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: the River Church. That's where Corey's pastor over the West End.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: He's got some stuff to talk about what's going on
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: the West End, of course, sobject matter of a lot
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: of discussion, considering the up young people who've gotten their
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: lives taken from them just by hanging out in a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: public park in regular hours. River Church is where you
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: go to see Corey Bowman preside over the congregation. Maybe
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: get you right with the Lord. Don't know King's Arms
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Coffee Roasters as well. Yes, a free plug for your
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: coffee company too. I understand a couple of cops went
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: in there and heard me mention in King's Arms Coffee Roasters.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: So at least you got a couple of cups of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: coffee out of me for the last time you're on Corey.
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  Speaker 1: Happy to do it man, Hey.
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  Speaker 8: I really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we started the church five years ago and you know,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: when we started actually in queens Gate West End area,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: fell in love with community and throughout all that we've
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: been able to distribute groceries and meals, been able to
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: lead people the Lord. But also you know, we also
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 8: see not only a spiritual aspect, that there has to
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 8: be an economic impact for this as well. So we
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: started the coffee shop right in the downtown West End
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: area as well, and you know we've been able to
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: see major progress with that.
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  Speaker 1: That's congratulations, and keep up the great work in the community.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: I know it's a community you really have a deep
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: concern over. You've made a lot of friends there. You'd
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: like to see it a better place. And you've also
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: witnessed the struggles that some developers have had trying to
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: make the area a better place, with the City of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati standing in the standing in the way of development
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: in the name of oh I don't know, connected communities
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: or something. Anyway, impediments to development are impediments to the
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: neighborhood improving. And that was one of the reasons I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: know you ran for for mayor. We'll maybe give it
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: another shot. Thank you very much, Corey Bowman for attaching
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: are you on your your your Facebook page? Yesterday you
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: posted a link to the city council meeting that took
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: place yesterday and the agenda, And I wanted to ask
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: you about this because I've never seen an agenda before,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: never bothered looking, but right there in the meeting caliber
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: all of these action items, and there are, Jeeze Louise,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: sixty of them. A lot of them have to do
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: with appointments. And what I found really weird and I
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: think really personally troubling. I'm entitled to my own opinion,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: is that when you're talking about appointments, so for example,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: appointments submitted by a mayor, I have to have purval
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: I hear by appoint Anita Albi to the City Planning
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Commission as a member of SINCINNY City Council. Appointment submitted
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: City Council. So they're going to vote on that, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: But in every appointment, whether it's to that panel or
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: the Southwest Ohio Regional Transit Board appointment, or any other
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: appointment to any advisory board like Housing Advisory Board, there's
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: a parenthetical which tells you the sex of the individual
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: and the color of their skin. So, in so far
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: as Anita Albi's concerned, perenn female slash white. And it
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: comes to appointing David Roberts, the Housing advisory word perenn
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: male slash white. And then you, of course, I also
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: have others female aa. I don't know what that means
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: male AI. Then they got the gender pronouns put in
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: there the reappointment parvol for keyback whoever that person is
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: speren they slash them slash aa. I guess that's African American.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a reference to a transgender person
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: on here. Bottom line, does that information have any bearing
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: on their qualifications to act in capacity of whatever appointment
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: or reappoinment they're up for Corey.
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  Speaker 8: Well, you know when you mentioned this, this is something
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 8: that it's a very fine line to kind of, you know,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 8: tiptoe around in some aspects. It's a very heated issue.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 8: You know, it is important to recognize certain aspects of
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 8: the community when it comes to race and gender because
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: we've come so far in our country when it comes
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: to civil rights, when it comes to women's rights, when
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: it comes to voting, but we've kind of crossed over
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 8: into this realm to where it's no longer about creating
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 8: equal opportunity for everybody, it's about check marking all of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 8: these different categories just to make sure we meet it
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: quota right. I think that that's taken out the aspect
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 8: of the true value of people when it comes to
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 8: their skill sets, when it comes to what their opinions are,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 8: what comes to their background is. And I believe that
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 8: that's something that really hurts when it comes to not
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 8: only city government, when it comes to businesses, when it
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: comes to careers. We have to be able to look
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: at this, as you know, not everything needs to be
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: a race issue or a gender issue. While it's important
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: to recognize those things when it's appropriate. This line that
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: we're towing right now is creating more division than unity.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Well, that's was my take on it. And also, you know,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: I'm one that still believes in the idea of meritocracy.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: So if here's another one, Van Lee Solivan was appointed
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: to the Environmental Advisor Advisory Board for a three year appointment.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know who this person is. I don't know
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: if they're qualified for the job. That's what really matters.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: What have they done to make them qualify to sit
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: on the Environmental Advisory Board. I don't care that Van
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Lee Sullivan happens to be according to parenthetical here anyway,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: trans non binary slash white. What does that those aspects
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: of his being have to do with competence to perform
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: a job on the Environmental Advisory Board? I mean, I
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: suppose that's something, since it was submitted by Scheryl Long
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: as city manager, that she might have looked into. But
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of a lot of people losing trust
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: in Cheryl Long's ability to make rational decisions anyway, So
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: did Cheryl Long look at his resume? Did Scheryl Long
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: know whether or not he knows anything about being on
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: the Environmental Advisory Board? None of which I know. But
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: I know that's not information that was provided to council.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Council was just provided what sex the person is, what
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: color skin they are, and I don't think that's appropriate.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: Well I will say this though, too, because what I've
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 8: seen is that they have this check mark policy when
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 8: it comes to this. But when those appointees or when
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 8: those people that are in those his positions don't necessarily
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 8: agree with their policies or agreed to play the you know,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 8: play ball with the head administration, they get Ouston, what
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: comes to mind, you know, with me is Michael Washington.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: Michael Washington was a man that grew up in downtown Cincinnati.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 8: He played basketball at Station five Fire Department. He worked
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 8: his way up to being the Cincinnati fire chief. And
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 8: this is a black man that is in the city
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 8: of Cincinnati. And yeah, you can check mark that, you know,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 8: he met the diversity roles. But this man was qualified.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 8: This man had a heart for the city of Cincinnati.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 8: And when I talked to him, and when I talked
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 8: to the firefighters, nobody thinks that there is anybody that
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 8: loves the Cincinnati Fire Department and wants to see it
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 8: succeed more than Michael Washington, Right, So then, but then
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 8: he didn't play ball when it comes to the administration,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 8: and so he gets wrongly fired let go by the
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 8: city manager. Well, now the city's paying for that because
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: the city is now facing the settlement of his lawsuit,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 8: and that's costing taxpayers money. And so what I would
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: say is that why don't we start right off the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 8: bat with people that love the community, with people that
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 8: love Cincinnati, that want to protect and serve or want
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 8: to fulfill these duties properly, And then what you'll find
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: is that the diversity will already be there, because Cincinnati
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 8: is a diverse city, right, But if you based it
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 8: on the qualifications, you're going to get a lot better
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 8: outcome because of it.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: That's my sole point. And if Michael Washington his name
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: was on here, part of the part of the time
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: when they appointed him to be the fire chief, if
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: it said paren mail slash black, I would make the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: same argument. He has demonstrably qualified for the job. He's
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: been around fire department work his entire life. He embraces
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: the fire department. He has worked hard, he's walked, worked
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: himself up through the ranks, eminently qualified. Based upon his
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: man anybody could fill that role, regardless of skin color,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: regardless of sexuality, the point being can they fill the
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: role competently? And isn't that the only thing that we
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: should be vetting them over anyhow, Just a little eye
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: opening for me on that one talk station fifty about
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: KRCD talk station Happy Friday, the former mayor oald candidates
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: still passed her and still a businessman, Corey Bowman, resident
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: of the West End area in the neighborhood that he
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: cares a great deal about trying to make it a
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: better place. We go back to twenty twenty three, eleven
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: year old Dominic Davis got killed in a park right
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: down the street from your church, and then sadly earlier
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: this year because a couple of weeks ago, we got
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: another eleven year old killed there. Queen Irie was her
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: young girl's name, read her last or was her last name.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: And after the initial shooting of that young the eleven
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: year old Dominic Davis, the West End was promised some
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: cameras not going to always, you know, prevent crime, but
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: certainly it deterns to crime. You were promised cameras being
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: stole out of the neighborhood, and apparently that never happened
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: until we had the second eleven year old murdered in
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: the same park, and then we get some action from council.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: What is actually going on now on the ground in
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: the West End as far as law enforcement activities and
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: efforts to prevent crime from happening.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 8: Corey Bowman, Yeah, so I know that you know there's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 8: a big emphasis on the cameras in the West End
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 8: right now. I know that you know they've the officers
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 8: specifically CPD and all the organizations that are involved in
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: this have called business owners in the West End because
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 8: you've got to get permission from like business owners or
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: property owners to put cameras up in certain places. So
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 8: that's something that shows us that they are being they
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 8: are actively pursuing installing these cameras in certain areas, so they're.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: At least asking. Now, do you get any sense from
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood business and property owners whether they're for it
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: or against it? Do you think generally speaking that would
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: be embraced or have you heard some people complain about
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: the idea of a camera being mounted on their property
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: as being bad.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 8: I think when it comes to what we've seen in
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 8: like these public parks and these areas because where the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 8: shooting happened was at Laurel Park, and when you look
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 8: throughout the city, these parks have actually turned into these
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 8: areas that are targeted by gangs in the area, whether
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 8: it be individuals that you know are just over for
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 8: turf or whatever that might be. And so when this happens,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 8: a lot of times there's just no camera footage, there's
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 8: no deterrence, there's no anything that's going on. You know, specifically,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 8: when when I think of certain parks, I think of
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 8: Laurel Park, Grant Park, Fairview Park. These are areas where
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 8: we've seen instances before, and the cameras do deter now,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 8: I think, you know, from a constitutional rising from when
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 8: it comes to monitoring somebody's privacy, you know, there's certain
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 8: areas when it comes to private property that you don't
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: necessarily want to.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: See it there.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 8: But then you know, for me, we have a business
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 8: in the West End and we have cameras that are
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 8: on our building for our security purposes, and that's been
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 8: a huge deterrent for us as well. So I think
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 8: it's got to be a collaborative effort of people working
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 8: together on that. But from what we can tell, there
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 8: is some initiative being taken for installing these cameras, but
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 8: it's not just a camera issue. There are certain other
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 8: things that we've got to put in place for this.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: All right, let's pause and rub it to break. What
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: are those specific things I'm gonna ask Corey Bowman that
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: as we come back from break, and that will be
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: after these first words for plumb type plumbing always plumbing
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: down some thirty eight figuring out Karsiti Talk Station Brian
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Thomas swishing every one a very happy Friday, an extra
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: special return to Corey Bowman. He's got his fingers on
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: the pulse of what's going on in downtown Cincinnati, notably
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: his area of the West End's got a real prime problem.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: We've been dealing with this for years. Corey knows more
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: about it anybody since he lives there, and of course
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: he is a business in a church in the area.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Going back to the couple of shootings in the park
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: down the street from your church business, the cameras are
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: apparently at least coming. I understand your point about installation.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: You got to get property owners approval. I do believe
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: in the concept of private property, and I think it'd
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: be a good thing if the neighborhood would agree that, yes,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: cameras would be a good thing because our neighborhood has
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: a crime problem and that would help moving over. Now,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: that may act as a deterrence, not one hundred percent,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: but it acts as a deterrence certainly an evidence gathering
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: element because you got videotape anyway, But what you were
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: getting ready to talk about? What else you're hoping comes
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: to the West End or maybe any other neighborhood in
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: the city that's struggling with crime. Corey Bauman, what are
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: you looking for?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I go back to the night where Queen
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: Irie was shot that night in the West End. Because
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 8: many people might not know this, but the grandmother of
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 8: the eleven year old girl that was shot several weeks
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 8: ago was a church member of mine, and so I
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: was at the hospital right when it happened and was
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 8: with the family. And then we came back to the
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 8: place where the shoe a shop at Laurel Park because
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 8: grandmother lives right across the street from it. And the
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 8: specific thing I think about was that that night, it's
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 8: almost past the night, we're sitting there and the community
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 8: itself all comes out to grieve, to mourn, to offer condolences,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: and I'm sitting there with the family. We're all outside,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 8: and a couple of things happened. Number One, I was
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 8: hearing people constantly talk about where the cameras. Where are
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 8: the cameras. They were like, we've got two hundred and
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 8: fifty million dollar stadium right there, talking about TQL Stadium,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 8: they said, where are the cameras at? Where the cameras at?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 8: They promised that after dom and so the community cares
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 8: about this also. Whenever they would talk then what would
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 8: happen was is that these cars would be driving by
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 8: very slowly. And when all these cars would drive by
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 8: very slowly with sins of windows, everybody had knee jerk reaction.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 8: They didn't know what was going to happen, whether another
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 8: incident was going to happen with the shooting. So I
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 8: just made call and we got some cruisers to be
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 8: able to come to the park for the protection of
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 8: the family and everybody outside. Well, when those cruisers pulled up,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 8: the initial response was they were a lot of people
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 8: were freaking out because they thought the cruisers were there
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 8: to clear them out, and I just said, no, these
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 8: cruisers are here. To help you, to protect you, and
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 8: that kind of kind of bridge this gap and put
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 8: down these walls. And a lot of people don't see
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 8: it this way, but that there is a huge gap
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 8: between the community of Cincinnatis, between the community of downtown
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 8: and the police officers who want to protect and serve.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 8: And I believe that the elected officials have to do
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 8: everything they can to bridge that gap, to show that
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 8: these officers are on the side of the community. And
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 8: then on top of that, you know, you ask what
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 8: are some practical things that we can do to fight
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 8: this crime? You know, the number one thing right now
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 8: is that we're twenty percent understaffed. We are twenty percent
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 8: understaffed when it comes to these officers. So no matter what,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 8: they're just trying to show up to the worst case
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: scenarios because they're understaff they're trying to get a handle
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 8: on everything. And you look through and we saw I
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 8: believe it was five point four million dollars appropriate toward
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 8: public safety over this year, and I'm looking at the
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 8: efforts and there was one hundred thousand of that that
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 8: was put toward recruitment efforts.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: We are at a.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 8: Point with CPD right now to where if we don't
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 8: get a handle on properly recruiting and getting people through
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 8: lateral hiring, and we're in trouble because you've got some
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 8: people and I'll say this based on what I've heard,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 8: is that you've got anywhere between sixty to eighty officers
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 8: even more than that that this year or next year
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 8: they enter into what's called the drop or possible retirement,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 8: and many of them might actually take that retirement and
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 8: not actually continue on. So then you're talking about possibly
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 8: going from twenty to thirty percent understaff. We have to
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 8: back our police officers, we have to back our law enforcement,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 8: but we have to bridge that gap between them and
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 8: the communities they serve. And so those are just practical
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 8: things that I believe has to be at the forefront
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 8: if we want to fight this crime. Because you can
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 8: put money into initiatives, you can put money into I mean,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 8: out of those appropriate funds, I believe it is eight
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 8: hundred and eighty thousand went toward three CDC's expanded Ambassador program.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 8: And a lot of these expanded ambassador programs involves like
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 8: picking up trash and trying to better the community in
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 8: that way, we've neglected the fact that our police are
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 8: there to protect and serve, not from a militant standpoint,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 8: but from a community involvement standpoint. We've got to bring
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 8: that back well.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: And stability and safety in any given community will lure investment.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Nobody's going to invest in a community where there's a
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: whole lot of crime going on in a city that's
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: not responsive to it. I want to address your lateral
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: higher point here in the allocation you've mentioned one hundred
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. This is needs to be a full scale
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: We'll reimagine Cincinnati marketing approach to rehabilitate the good name
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: of the police department. Otherwise you're not going to get anybody.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: I don't care how much money you hang out there.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Police chair FOP president Ken Kober told me about sad figures.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: They had thirty open spots. If nobody shows up, you
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: can't do lateral hires. Don't go away. Corey Bowman continues
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: seven thirty five. If I've KCD talk station, od O,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: r XIT, that's hitting west and resident business owner and
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: pastor in the West End and the church, I get
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: pivoting over. Of course, yes, more police officers are needed.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody, even the most ardent person who
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: hates the police, except for maybe Iris Roley, doesn't realize
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: we are low on officers. There's you know how many
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: hundreds thousand people in the city of Cincinnati within the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: limits fifty two neighborhoods, and we only have enough officers that,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe when seconds counts, perhaps twenty thirty minutes later,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: there might be one there. You got to allocate reasonable
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: the resources, got to go to the worst calls first,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: meaning some people who may very well be in a jam,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: you know, aren't gonna see a cop come by because
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: they're short. So obvious thing. Let's get more officers on
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  Speaker 1: the job. Now. We can't start with recruits and brand
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  Speaker 1: new classes. They need to be trained to take six
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: months or more to get them out on the street.
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  Speaker 1: So even if you get people to sign up to
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: be a police officer, that's going to take a while.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: How about hiring away police officers from other police departments?
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Great idea. There's a lot of folks out there, maybe
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: in New York City for example, and you may have
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: a wortitude on that, but you know, we have a
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  Speaker 1: better life here. You and I could argue about it
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  Speaker 1: all day long. We can engage in a marketing campaign
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: to explain how much better the city of Cincinnati is
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: in spite of its warts, than a lot of other
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: cities in this country. But you still can't get a
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: cop to come over and sign up for the job
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: knowing that the political structure is against them, and a
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: minimum won't even stand up for police officers or go
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: out and advocate for them like we all know that
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: they need. They need the support of the mayor, the
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: city manager, the supportive count until regular, out loud support
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: stop criticizing the police department. We've made massive improvements in
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: policing in the city Sincinnati, going all the way back
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: to the Collaborative Agreement and all the way to this day,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: things just kept getting better. They're not out to hurt you.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: They're out to help you. They're out to make your
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: neighborhood of crime free place. There's nothing wrong with policing.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: You're going to have to have a marketing campaign to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: rehabilitate counsel and the Mayor's office onto the side of
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: us believing that they actually care about the police. Otherwise
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: you're going to open thirty spots up for lateral hires
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: and you're going to get I think it was seven
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: applicants at least, that's what Ken Kober told me when
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: he was on the program. It just doesn't work saying
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: you're going to do lateral hires. Corey.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, you know, one thing that a lot of
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 8: people might not you know, understand why it comes to
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 8: police officers as well, is that there are accreditation programs,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 8: and there are accreditation organizations that basically qualify or not qualify,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 8: but they basically allow the standards to be enforced if
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 8: you come underneath that covering. So it's kind of like,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 8: you know, if you go to any university, are they accredited?
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 8: You know, is there accreditation that justifies that they are
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 8: qualified to be able to offer those types of services.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 8: So in the state of Ohio, we have something called
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 8: the Ohio Collaborative Law Enforcement Accreditation Program OCLAP. Now, this
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 8: is something that's offered state wide. It's voluntary, but this
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 8: ensures that certain standards are met with the police department
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 8: and with law enforcement agencies, and many agencies all throughout
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 8: the state go into this program. And not only because
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 8: of the standards, but because with lateral hiring, this helps
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 8: because then people throughout the whole state can recognize that
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 8: this department is actually accredited under them, we can trust
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 8: the standards of it, and then we want to work
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 8: for them. Then there's actually a national accreditation called KALIA
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 8: C A L e A. That's this and what that
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 8: offers is national standards. Now here's the thing with these accreditations,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 8: right it offers standards for accountability, for transparency with the officers,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 8: you know, bodytams, making sure that there are no racial issues,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 8: no profile you know, anything, but also that the training
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 8: for the officers is up to par And right now,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 8: the Cincinnai Police Department is not under any of those
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 8: accreditation programs. And we do have something called the Collaborative Agreement,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 8: which is agreement that was needed at the time and
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 8: it is something that enforces these standards. But this is
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 8: what we got to realize is that Cincinnati cannot be
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  Speaker 8: an island unto itself. I've talked with the public safety
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 8: sector of the state when we talk about accepting the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 8: packages for public safety from Ohio State Patrol and getting
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 8: people on the ground to up our complement levels, and
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 8: they say that with Cleveland, with Columbus, with all these
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 8: other cities, they make a massive progress when it comes
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 8: to helping, but when it comes to Cincinnati, they have
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 8: to jump through a lot of hoops because Cincinnati operates
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 8: by like its own standards and that might seem like, oh, yeah,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 8: we we have higher standards. No, it's that we are
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 8: an island unto ourselves. We don't operate underneath Kalia. We
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 8: don't operate under the Ohio state accreditation, and that really
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 8: hinders us, not only when it comes to accepting help
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 8: from the state, but when it comes to things like
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 8: lateral hiring. If we're underneath Kalia accreditation, you would get
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 8: some of the best of the best from NYPD, from
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 8: Chicago PD, from LAPD, you get some of the best
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 8: of the best from all over the nation. Say hey, Cincinnati,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 8: there's a lower cost of living, it's a great city.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 8: We've got all these great things that could go for
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 8: us and raising our family there. And they are underneath
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 8: that Korea that National recognize accreditation to where the standards
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 8: are going to be there and the recruitment would actually
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 8: go up. But CINCINNTI doesn't operate under that right now,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 8: and that's something I think we need to change.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like it's a simple fix Corey. I mean,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: is anything that our police officers here in the city
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: are taught, pursued to the collaborator, a reeman, or their
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: training that is inconsistent or flies in the face of
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: what they are being taught under those larger, broader, widely
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: accepted accreditation programs.
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 8: And that's the thing is that, you know, even though
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 8: the standards underneath these accreditation would still match, Cincinnati just
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 8: kind of fails to work together with state or federal
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 8: when it comes to that. You know, I talked with
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 8: SWAT officers and I would ask them how things going.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 8: They would say, oh, well, we can't even get funding
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 8: for night vision right now. So that's when you know, like,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 8: even if money is being thrown in public safety, it's
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 8: not going toward where it needs to go. This is
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 8: Cincinnati SWAP. This is a local law enforce spent that
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 8: it's in their name that he need tactical gear, and
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 8: they can't even get money for a night vision So
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 8: this is something. But then when I asked him, hey,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 8: couldn't we work with the state or federal to try
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 8: to get more funding for this, he said, No, Cincinnati's
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 8: and island under himself, they won't they don't want to
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 8: work with the state or federal just because of the
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 8: politics of everything.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Let's pausit ring quarterback for one more. We'll first catch
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: ourselves a crime stopper, bad Guy the Week, Tivity, Green Officer,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Greens waiting in the wings. We'll get her first, and
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: we'll finish with Corey and learn about his podcast, among
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: other things some forty seven right now, if you have
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: KC the talk station mortgages now, would you send your
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: kid to the wrong person? Can and good lucky into
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: where you're going Corey Bowman, I understand you have a
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: new podcast, Yes, sir, Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: We've been you know, kind of had it in the
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 8: works for a while, just kind of working with Joe.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 8: And I want to thank Joe Schreker for all the
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 8: work that he does for just not only you know
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 8: y'all show, but for everything that he's got his hand into.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I believe that it's all going to be links,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 8: provided that we'll be sharing weekly and just keeping our
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 8: voice out there because you know a lot of people
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 8: see it as hey, you know, is there another race
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 8: or you know, all this is just kind of a
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 8: one off. But the key aspect of last year and
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 8: continues on this year. Is that we have to keep
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 8: our voices loud when it comes to what's going on
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 8: in our city if we want.
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  Speaker 5: To see real change.
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  Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, you're the man for the job. You're concerned
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: for the city comes through in your passion and in
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: your voice and in your day to day actions working
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: hard to make the West End a better community for everyone.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, I love having you on the show and
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: I will encourage my listeners to find the Corey Bowman
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: podcast or whether they get their podcast yes, produced by
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: my executive producer, Joe Strecker, who will be happy to
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: produce anybody's podcast. Just get in touch with him. He
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: does that. It's a thing. Corey Bowman. Have a great weekend.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: Be careful with the snow, and I hope people don't
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: ditch church because we've got some snow on Sunday.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, no matter what, we're going to be and you know,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 8: we encourage safety with everybody.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 7: But yeah, we'll always remain open and yeah, we're excited
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 7: for a great weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Sure you are have one and best of health and
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: love to you and your entire family. Corey. We'll talk
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: again real soon. I'm sure coming up at the top
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  Speaker 1: of the hour. News Diana tell Us it'll five fifty
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  Speaker 1: five kosit de talxation. Brian Thomas wishing everyone a very
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: happy Friday. I hope you have some indoor plans for
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: the weekend, and there are warming centers in and around
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati the greater Cincinnati area. If you know of
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: an elderly person, a senior person, some with disabilities, please
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: keep an eye on them out. The heat can go
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: out at any time, and of course they are at risk.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Cold can be deadly. So a shout out for that
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  Speaker 1: and a welcome to the fifty five CARSSY Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: Diana tell us, who's with Turning Point USA Cincinnati chapter.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about this before. You access it through empower
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Youamerica dot org. Power you America dot org. My listeners
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: are probably familiar with that. The the regular seminars class
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: us were class work and learning opportunities. A great opportunity
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: to learn there, but pivoting over upper top of the
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: screen an at empower Youoamerica dot or you'll see TPUSA.
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  Speaker 1: Click on that. It takes you right there to the
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: chapter of Turning Point USA. Here in Cincinnati. Thank you,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Diana tell Us for your involvement and getting that off
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: the ground. Welcome to the Morning Show.
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  Speaker 13: Thank you, good morning. Thanks for bringing me on to
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 13: talk about Turning Point. We're super excited. We have been
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 13: on once and we had our semester. We did our best.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 13: We were brand new. We've ironed out some of the kinks.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 13: But our first class is coming up on January the
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 13: twenty eight. So I want to say that we don't
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 13: have the web page for even for Empower used classes
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 13: for this coming spring semester or for Turning Point just
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 13: yet totally firmed up. Were very very close on both
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 13: for both both organizations, for both pieces of it, but
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 13: so the web page will not be as up to date.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 13: But I would say within the next I don't know,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 13: ten days or so, we may have something up there,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 13: especially for Turning Point and empower Youse still kind of
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 13: ironing things out, but we are on our way here
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 13: with Turning Point January twenty eighth, the big deal. I mean,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 13: I reach out to to see if he'll help me
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 13: out and getting the word out, and he's always so generous.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 13: You're so generous to have us on. We've got a
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 13: new day for turning point, a new time and a
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 13: new location. So three things that I think as we
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 13: took a look at how our last semester went, how
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 13: we could better serve our students and our families. Because
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 13: we're our a unique entity, right, We're not associated with
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 13: the school. We're actually considered an activism hub. We serve
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 13: all high schoolers in Greater Cincinnati. I'll take anybody. I'm
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 13: not karting. Anybody who we're not worried about addresses high schoolers. Mostly.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 13: We've even got a few waish graders. And I know
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 13: we're kind of sneaking in. That's completely fine, It's worked
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 13: out fine. I just want to reach students and be
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 13: that place where they can learn about servit of values,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 13: about free markets, about free speech, and be in a
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 13: comfortable place. I hate to use the term safe space,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 13: but a.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Place where they can kind of speak the way they
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: want to speak, right exactly, and you know, we can say, yeah,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: the police are good that using gender pronouns, that these
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: these are kids who've never lived like my son, he's sixteen.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 13: He doesn't even remember a time when we didn't talk
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 13: like that. And that's horrific because it wasn't that long ago.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 13: We didn't have to do this right, So we can
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 13: do that in our group here, and it's a place
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 13: where we can be open well.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm certain your chapter is going to grow, and
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: we'll get the details on the daytime and location changes
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: here in a minute and find out what's going on
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: in the twenty eighth. But I guess this is one
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: of those instances where you know, the Lord really does
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: work in mysterious ways. Charlie Kirk outspoken. He'd been doing
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: this for years. I mean, he spoke truth to power,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: he spoke his mind. He sprung from his religious faith,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: but he held these American values and ideals dear to
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: his heart. He was wonderful at getting the message out
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: about conservative values. And then his life was taken from him.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: But you know, the lemonade that was made from the
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: lemons of that. But the beautiful, you know, the mysterious reality,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: the miracle that came from that is Turning Point USA
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: just blew up in terms of its people recognizing her
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: for what it is. People learn for the first time
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: what Turning Point USA is all about. And then next thing,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: you know, all these new chapters started forming across the
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: whole United States. I mean, you know, maybe a martyr
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: to the cause perhaps, but what a wonderful reality that
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: came out from that tragic, horrific death for.
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  Speaker 13: Sure, for sure, and thank God for him. And when
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 13: you watch his videos, he was phenomenal at what he did,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 13: particularly in these more recent years, which I did notice
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 13: as it was happening. I did notice that, and I
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 13: want to make a point of that with these kids
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 13: that were working with actually are students, the young adults. Really,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 13: they all struggle. We all struggled. There was a time
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 13: when if you use the term GOP with somebody, you've
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 13: already lost them because they don't know all the jargon
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 13: and the terminology. I grew up with it. I was
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 13: forced to listen in Rushlumbo from when I was like
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 13: ten years old on. I get it, but not everybody does, right,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 13: So Charlie Kirk understood it. Was a patriot always probably,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 13: but he also had to polish himself and learn and
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 13: read and educate himself. I think he did the coursework
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 13: at Hillsdale, for example, to learn the things he needed
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 13: to learn. And he knew how to debate and he
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 13: practiced it, and it takes hard work to be a
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 13: Charlie Kirk. So I'd love to say we're turning out
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 13: Charlie kirk sative empower used Turning Points chapter. But we
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 13: can certainly give them the tool so that when they
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 13: go off to college, even if they grew up in
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 13: conservative household. So it's the choir, right, These kids are
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 13: part the choir. They're us right. But I know a
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 13: couple of conservative families who sent kids off to a college,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 13: a big one. I won't say which of the big
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 13: colleges it was that bull kids went there, came back,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 13: you know, unrecognizable, yes, and debated their parents and badgeris
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 13: them for voting for Donald Trump. They knew that their parents,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 13: They felt like their parents were part of it, and
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 13: how could they do that? They were preamewashed. And we
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 13: cannot let our young people. They're not going to get
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 13: at their schools. They've got to get it somewhere. They've
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 13: got to get through somewhere, and that's what we're trying
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 13: to do.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm glad you brought up that the
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: component of you know, some young I've had a year
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: of college. I know what I'm talking about. You don't
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about mom, dad, that badgering that
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: goes on, Well, Charlie Kirk took that kind of criticism,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: that kind of badgering on headlong. Every opportunity that was
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: given to him where someone would come up and criticize
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: him and tell him he was wrong, he grabbed a
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: bull by the horns and met that statement, that argument,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: if it was even an argument, that attack and criticism
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: with facts, with logic, with reason. And I would expect
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: any parent out there to be able to do that.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: If their their nut job left winger came back from
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: a doctrination camp at college, you could take them on
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: if they start down that evil orange man road with
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: the knowledge and the skills that you already have or
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: do more. Adults need to take the bull by the horns,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: learn like Charlie Kirk did, and embrace the idea of
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: rejecting that and go at them full bore with facts
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: and information.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 13: Yeah. And Charlie Kirk taught us that he was coming
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 13: from a place of love.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 13: And I don't know if the Left thought that because
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 13: they felt so bad they took it personally. It's not personal,
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  Speaker 13: it was it was a reality.
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  Speaker 12: It was you know, his pro life stances was he
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  Speaker 12: was unbelievably talented at being an apologist for life and
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  Speaker 12: American values, you know, but he did it from a
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  Speaker 12: place of love.
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  Speaker 13: He wasn't badgering, he wasn't raising his voice, he wasn't
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  Speaker 13: being and he probably would spit on more times than
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  Speaker 13: he could count and then pay the ultimate price. Yeah,
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  Speaker 13: he's a phenomenal example of how to push back against
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  Speaker 13: this craziness.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think young people could benefit
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  Speaker 1: from this beyond the political realm. The idea of being
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  Speaker 1: able to confidentially engage in debate. That's a skill that
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  Speaker 1: lots and lots of young people lack. It's a sorely
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  Speaker 1: missing skill for young people. They don't want to engage.
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  Speaker 1: You want to hide isolated, curl up at a ball,
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  Speaker 1: or just screen expletives at people, which is not debate
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  Speaker 1: and exchange of ideas. It's just name calling. But that's
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  Speaker 1: where we are at a fall positions. So I would think, yes,
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  Speaker 1: this will this turning point USA empower you. Chapter will
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  Speaker 1: encourage them and help them to engage in thoughtful discussion
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  Speaker 1: along politics. But also you can extrapolate a life skill
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  Speaker 1: that they'll bring with that'll take from these courses in
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  Speaker 1: this chapter's work and use it in other areas of
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  Speaker 1: their life.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, for sure, for sure, yes, and I it's been
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  Speaker 13: a joy to have empower use resources to do that
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  Speaker 13: and Dan and it has been very helpfuls Dance for
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  Speaker 13: you know, if these kids aren't going to get this
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  Speaker 13: at their schools, then they have to be able to
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  Speaker 13: get it somewhere. And if we don't have our young
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  Speaker 13: people and we don't bring them along in in in
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  Speaker 13: patriotism and in reason and like touching grass, then if
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  Speaker 13: they're not going to do it in the schools, which
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  Speaker 13: they're clearly not, and I don't see that improving anytime soon,
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  Speaker 13: then we can be out there for these students and
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  Speaker 13: and can help them meet you know, they can put
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  Speaker 13: them together so they meet each other. That was one
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  Speaker 13: of bad goals with so that students, you know, like
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  Speaker 13: minded students could meet each other in a in a
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  Speaker 13: place like this where they had something in common and
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  Speaker 13: they could speak their minds without having to worry. And
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  Speaker 13: in the process our turning point chapter were because of
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  Speaker 13: the nature it kind of looks a little like empower
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  Speaker 13: you where we bring in speakers and some of the
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  Speaker 13: adults have stayed. The parents, so that's another thing. The
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  Speaker 13: parents have stuck around. And I'm not going to tell
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  Speaker 13: parents they have to go away and sit in the car,
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  Speaker 13: but I will say that the students really do like
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  Speaker 13: to have some autonomy in this and in it and
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  Speaker 13: when they're meeting with us, So we want them to talk,
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  Speaker 13: We want them to have discussions. We want them to
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  Speaker 13: be comfortable. And if that means we put the parents
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  Speaker 13: in kind of the back room, then that's what we do.
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  Speaker 13: But they've also been able to listen to reb Gross
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  Speaker 13: was then talking to us, and I asked the parents
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  Speaker 13: to stay, and they really enjoyed that. So there is
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  Speaker 13: some family, you know, togetherness at times with our meeting.
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  Speaker 13: So it's good for everybody, really, all right.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's an important question to ask. Now, Charlie
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  Speaker 1: Kirk's message sprung and was born of his profound faith
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  Speaker 1: in God, I mean the devout and of course some
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  Speaker 1: of his messages sprung from that. And you can extrapolate
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  Speaker 1: a conservative political message, you know, based upon your religious foundations.
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  Speaker 1: Is turning Point usays Chapter through empower You America? Would
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  Speaker 1: you call it a religious organization? Will you be teaching
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  Speaker 1: about you know, like things biblical or are you just
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  Speaker 1: going to let the political message prevail or is it
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  Speaker 1: a combination.
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  Speaker 13: That good question. Yeah, you know, that's a good question
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  Speaker 13: because faith is definitely part of that message. And I
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  Speaker 13: will say this Turning Point has a curriculum for the
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  Speaker 13: high schoolers that they offer up, and it doesn't quite
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  Speaker 13: fit for what we're doing because we're not in a
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  Speaker 13: school and like parents and students both have to drive,
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  Speaker 13: you know, sometimes across town to get to our meeting.
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  Speaker 13: So we do it a little different. It packs a
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  Speaker 13: different kind of punch, if that makes any sense. So
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  Speaker 13: the curriculum that you might do after when you stay
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  Speaker 13: after school with you know, on every Tuesday, or whatever
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  Speaker 13: they do with the high schools, probably not enough high
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  Speaker 13: schools even have a chapter from the looks of the
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  Speaker 13: that's offered. It's fine for that setting, but for ours,
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  Speaker 13: I needed to have it a little more heavy heading.
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  Speaker 13: And as far as faith, it will always bring faith
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  Speaker 13: into the conversation. We had Donna Murphy from Heaven Dane
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  Speaker 13: came in last semester, late last semester, right before Christmas
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  Speaker 13: and talked about the pro life message. And there's plenty
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  Speaker 13: of faith in that I've got a gentleman that I'm
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  Speaker 13: very good friends with. John Kersey is his name, mased
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  Speaker 13: from Cleveland, and he's a professor. He's coming down to
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  Speaker 13: talk to Turning Point on the March eighteenth, actually, and
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  Speaker 13: he's a very faithful man. And he's a journalist and
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  Speaker 13: a professor and a conservative and he's just phenomenal and
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  Speaker 13: he's a great speaker. And I asked him to join
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  Speaker 13: us in Turning Point. And I don't know what message
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  Speaker 13: he's going to give yet, but you can be you
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  Speaker 13: can bet it will be peppered with a message you know,
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  Speaker 13: of faith. So and he could talk on any number
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  Speaker 13: of things, but we'll always be bringing faith into the
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  Speaker 13: conversation for sure, for sure. So yeah, by the way,
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  Speaker 13: he'll be and empower you the following day talking about
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  Speaker 13: Jesse Allens.
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  Speaker 1: The one two times straight. That's good. I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to seeing the semester.
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  Speaker 13: Bring them down. We're going to use them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeats my guess right now with this segment, Diana tell
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  Speaker 1: Us from the Turning Point chapter via empower You America
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  Speaker 1: dot org. You mentioned early on daytime location. Sounded to
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  Speaker 1: me like there's going to be a shift in when
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  Speaker 1: these were going to take place, not the where though,
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  Speaker 1: is it still at uh empower You Studios at Scarlett
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  Speaker 1: Oaks Campus, three hundred Great Oaks Drive, Are you moving venue?
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  Speaker 13: Not there yet? That is still empower You, that's still
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  Speaker 13: empower You meeting space. For sure. We pivoted a little differently.
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  Speaker 13: We did new day, new time, and new location. So
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  Speaker 13: I'm super excited about this. So already Cafe on Reading
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  Speaker 13: Road and Sharonville is hosting us.
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  Speaker 14: We generally will be meeting there on Wednesdays. I want
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  Speaker 14: to say it's every other Wednesday, but we may have
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  Speaker 14: some hops in the calendar where we're not quite following exactly,
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  Speaker 14: but we are going to be meetings there on the
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  Speaker 14: twenty eighth.
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  Speaker 13: It's upstairs. She's got an upstairs space there was very
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  Speaker 13: excited to have us. It's external, like she's not open,
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  Speaker 13: but it's external. So we'll make our way up there.
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  Speaker 13: And there's a really nice, really nice space. It's comfortable
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  Speaker 13: with couches, it's very homeye and we'll be a great
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  Speaker 13: place for the students to We know what size, you
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  Speaker 13: know what we need, and we didn't need that big
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  Speaker 13: studio space that they have over at Grade Oak. So
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  Speaker 13: This is a more comfortable way of doing it, I think,
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  Speaker 13: And there isn't an adult space that they could sit.
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  Speaker 13: The adults could sit down the hall in a smaller
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  Speaker 13: room kind of keep an eye on things if they
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  Speaker 13: want to. But you know a lot of them have
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  Speaker 13: driven around town to get to this meeting, so there
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  Speaker 13: is room for them as well. So the meeting will
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  Speaker 13: start at six point thirty, which is another improvement over
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  Speaker 13: over what we were doing with Empower. You we were
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  Speaker 13: kind of piggybacking on the space we already had. Yeah,
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  Speaker 13: so this is going to be better. And then we
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  Speaker 13: did off for Wednesday so that we could take advantage
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  Speaker 13: of you know, if I ever needed Dan to come
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  Speaker 13: over to work with us at Turning Point, Dan wouldn't
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  Speaker 13: be busy on Thursday, you know, on a Thursday, on
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  Speaker 13: the same night. It just it just made it better.
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  Speaker 13: We could get we could get help in different ways
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  Speaker 13: by changing the day of the week.
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  Speaker 1: I certainly under the understand the reasons for the logistical changes.
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  Speaker 1: So it's going to be six thirty pm. It's taking
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  Speaker 1: place at the already cafe, and the next Turning Point
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  Speaker 1: USA meeting is on the twenty eighth of this month,
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  Speaker 1: But I got all that right.
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  Speaker 13: You got that right.
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  Speaker 1: And then the twenty eight who's going to be speaking
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  Speaker 1: on the twenty eighth, Diana tell us we.
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  Speaker 13: Have got Dusi Khan, who's a local author who will
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  Speaker 13: be talking about her experiences in communist Czechoslovakia and her family.
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  Speaker 13: She was very young, she wrote a book called Like Swans.
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  Speaker 13: So'll be bringing books with her and we will be
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  Speaker 13: giving those away. We've got somebody, we're a lovely ladies
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  Speaker 13: who Hardenberg is donating books for our students and we'll
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  Speaker 13: be looking at that book. The kids will go home
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  Speaker 13: with it, but she'll be talking about for experience. I
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  Speaker 13: really really wanted to hit on early this year. I
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  Speaker 13: wanted to talk about socialism and communism early on because
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  Speaker 13: of New York City and the news and I'm hearing
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  Speaker 13: it too too much that young people feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 13: it's a difficult thing for me to understand that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you kids. The frustration is I understand that
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  Speaker 1: that could My show's built on that kind of frustration.
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  Speaker 1: Did I'm sorry you every day? Well, I thank you,
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  Speaker 1: and we're out of time, but I want to wish
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  Speaker 1: you in the turning point, USA chapter again and Howerreoamerica
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  Speaker 1: dot org. Click on the link up at TPUSA. At
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  Speaker 1: the top, Diana tell us all the best of luck
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  Speaker 1: in the world. I encourage my listeners if you've got
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  Speaker 1: some young people out there that you know of your own,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps your neighbors, you know, high school age roughly, that's
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  Speaker 1: who we need in engaged in this process and turning point. Ussays,
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  Speaker 1: empower your America chapters doing just that. Diana, great work.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome here in the morning show anytime to spread
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  Speaker 1: the word about TPUSA. Here, God bless you have a
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  Speaker 1: wonderful weekend and be safe. Eight twenty two. Right now,
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  Speaker 6: Fifty five krc.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, twenty nine, Here, fifty five KRCD Talk Station. It's Friday.
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  Speaker 1: You can find him on zoom wherever you get your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back and Happy Friday to you. Jack. It's
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  Speaker 1: great seeing your face.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian.
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  Speaker 15: It's an honor to join you and the discerning listeners
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  Speaker 15: of fifty five KRC this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for acknowledging the quality of my listening audience. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it's a tough the smarter your audience, you know this,
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  Speaker 1: the tougher your job is. And I'm always embarrassed when
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  Speaker 1: I cannot adequately cope with in one of the caller's
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  Speaker 1: questions about like, let's say, a case that he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to know about, I'm like, oh, man, I'm lost in
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  Speaker 1: the shuffle of all this information. We know about California,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: we know about Minnesota in terms of fraud and what's
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: been revealed so far. How about how does Ohio compared
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  Speaker 1: to those two states, Jack Windsor, That's.
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  Speaker 15: A great question, great, great question. So I want to
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  Speaker 15: take you back and then bring you back to the present.
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  Speaker 15: You'll remember Ohio's pandemic era unemployment system experienced significant failures,
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  Speaker 15: resulting in about three point eight billion in improper payments now,
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  Speaker 15: further exacerbating Ohio's challenges. You'll remember State Representative Mike de
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  Speaker 15: Villa's twenty twenty five investigation into Medicaid right into the
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  Speaker 15: wheelhouse of your caller, revealed preliminary findings of at least
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  Speaker 15: six billion annually flowing without adequate checks potentially too ineligible recipients,
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  Speaker 15: obviously emphasizing the critical imperative for rigorous eligibility verification to
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  Speaker 15: stem substantial drain on state resources as well as federal
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  Speaker 15: resources that combine with those state resources in Medicaid. Now
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  Speaker 15: flash forward to now twenty twenty six. Ohio's Department of
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  Speaker 15: Children and Youth Programs I found out last week from
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  Speaker 15: a lawmaker from auditor at Keith Faber, has identified two
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  Speaker 15: million dollars in improper distributions to childcare centers. However, here's
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  Speaker 15: the asterisk. Brian, my independent scrutiny in Columbus in one
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  Speaker 15: day alone uncovered what appears to be six and a
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  Speaker 15: half million in questionable payments to entities like Somali Education
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  Speaker 15: Resource Center. With ongoing investigations in my world, I think
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  Speaker 15: we will reveal additional instances of waste fraud and abuse.
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  Speaker 15: That really will, I think, further compel the legislative process.
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  Speaker 15: There are a couple of bills already drafted that are
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  Speaker 15: in play, and I think that we should start looking
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  Speaker 15: for prosecutorial action. One of the bills would give the
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  Speaker 15: Ohio Attorney General authority to prosecute these cases, because one
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  Speaker 15: of the challenges, Brian, is that sometimes local prosecutors are
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  Speaker 15: maybe they're well intended, but they're not prosecuting crimes. So
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  Speaker 15: Ohio has a significant issue. And my big heartburn on
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  Speaker 15: all of it is there appear to.
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  Speaker 3: Be systemic issues.
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  Speaker 15: And when you have a governor sitting in the governor's
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  Speaker 15: chair who says, well, it's just the cost of doing business,
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  Speaker 15: we have a problem. And I think that we're going
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  Speaker 15: to uncover we have a significant, significant, systemic issue here
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  Speaker 15: in the Buckeye State.
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  Speaker 1: Well I'm a little, i guess troubled by the reality.
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  Speaker 1: And apparently AG does not have the authority to go
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  Speaker 1: after these and you know, you may be deleicate and
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  Speaker 1: with your wording on local prosecutors and their desires to
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  Speaker 1: go after fraud, waste, and abuse in among the illegal
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  Speaker 1: immigrant community or anywhere else for that matter. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: there are very politically active left wing prosecutors who wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: touch it with a ten foot poll for political reasons.
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  Speaker 1: So we can't count on our own criminal justice system
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  Speaker 1: to look out for Republican Democrat, communists, socialists, whoever's paying
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  Speaker 1: taxes dollars. This transcends politics, Jack Windsor, this is not
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  Speaker 1: about politics. It's about fraud, waste and abuse.
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  Speaker 15: It is about fraud, waste and abuse, and it is
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  Speaker 15: an absolute crying shame when you have aiders and a
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  Speaker 15: betters who are pretending to be judges and prosecutors that
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  Speaker 15: seem to be cut in on the deals.
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  Speaker 12: Right.
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  Speaker 15: That's why I always say elections matter, elections matter, elections
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  Speaker 15: matter well.
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  Speaker 1: And then they go out and they enter this this
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  Speaker 1: it's like a child, a petulant child holding his ears
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  Speaker 1: and putting his hands over is a you know, closing
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  Speaker 1: his eyes and going l. I don't want to hear it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: hear it. It happened on your watch. The buck stops
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  Speaker 1: at your desk, governor, whoever that's our money, do something
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  Speaker 1: about it. You mentioned this one giving the Attorney general
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  Speaker 1: authority to do these prosecutions. That's great. Again, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize we even need to go through this step. But
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  Speaker 1: what are the other bills that are being discussed and
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  Speaker 1: who would possibly be against them?
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  Speaker 15: Jack, Great, great question. Well, there is a bill from
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  Speaker 15: Phil Plummer from the Dayton area, and his bill has
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 15: the prosecutorial power going over to the attorney general. But
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  Speaker 15: also Lawmaker Josh Williams up there in the Toledo area, who,
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  Speaker 15: by the way, is also running for Congress in District nine.
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  Speaker 15: If he wins the Republican nomination, he will square off
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  Speaker 15: against fixture in DC, Marcy Captor, who's been a Democrat
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  Speaker 15: lawmaker as long as I've been alive, it seems.
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  Speaker 3: But I digress.
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  Speaker 15: Williams bill actually is one that would require as well,
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  Speaker 15: real time video cameras in these daycare centers. Now, there
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 15: are people who have a penchant for privacy who are saying,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 15: wait a minute, that might be over the line. And
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 15: what Williams is saying. He was on my show earlier
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  Speaker 15: this week he said, well, look, we already do this
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  Speaker 15: in places like the YMCA.
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  Speaker 3: As long as we have proper guardrails.
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  Speaker 15: We should be able to see into those daycare centers
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  Speaker 15: to make sure, h here's a great idea, there are
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  Speaker 15: actually students in those daycare centers if they are receiving
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  Speaker 15: public funds. And so it appears that both of those
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  Speaker 15: bills have Republican support, although I would guess that Josh
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  Speaker 15: Williams bill might get some pushback because there are people
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  Speaker 15: who go, well, what do you go, what kind of
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  Speaker 15: images are you going to take of Johnny? And how
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  Speaker 15: do I know that somebody's not going to misuse them?
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  Speaker 15: And I remind people we do have to put safeguards
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  Speaker 15: in place, but this thing is as old as time.
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  Speaker 3: Brian.
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  Speaker 15: There's a proverb that says the borrower is servant to
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  Speaker 15: the lender. When you take tax dollars. Guess what you
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  Speaker 15: are servant to the people who give you those tax dollars.
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  Speaker 15: And you ought to expect that there is proper oversight
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  Speaker 15: to make sure that the dollars are being used for
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  Speaker 15: the things that you promised they would be used for.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've kind of advocated that in the past for
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  Speaker 1: a public school class rooms for parents only, not evil
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  Speaker 1: perverts out there who might want to just voyeuristically watch children,
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  Speaker 1: but for parents to have secure access so they can
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  Speaker 1: at least hear what their children are being taught in classroom? Right,
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  Speaker 1: what's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 3: It kind of makes sense, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But here's the other thing.
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  Speaker 15: There are some independents, there are some people who are
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  Speaker 15: on the conservative right who would go, oh, this is
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  Speaker 15: a surveillance state.
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  Speaker 3: This is surveillance state.
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  Speaker 15: I remind them that when you carry this thing around,
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  Speaker 15: you can't see me on the video I'm holding up
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  Speaker 15: my smartphone.
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  Speaker 3: Guess what, You're already being surveilled.
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  Speaker 15: Say something today and just watch if the product that
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  Speaker 15: you mentioned doesn't show up on your Facebook or x feeed,
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  Speaker 15: we're already being surveilled.
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  Speaker 1: We are. And that's something I've had to come to
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  Speaker 1: grips with myself because I probably would have been in
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  Speaker 1: the camp about no surveillance date because I call myself
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  Speaker 1: a little il libertarian and I don't like state you know,
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  Speaker 1: or welly in action. But we're talking about children here.
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  Speaker 1: In the case of the schools, many cases, these centers
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about, whether they're leering or learning, there are
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  Speaker 1: young people. They need to have constant attention by parents
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  Speaker 1: who really, really truly care pivoting over it's our taxpayer
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  Speaker 1: money that that is even open as a place to
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  Speaker 1: send children. There's another reason for us to know whether
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  Speaker 1: there's anything even going on in the building. Not a
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  Speaker 1: very big road to ho there. Jack Winsor will bring
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  Speaker 6: Stick around fifty five KRC from fifty.
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  Speaker 1: Five KRC the talk station. Hey, forty one fifty five
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  Speaker 1: the show, and we got a braack right now through
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: the close of the show. A couple more segments with Jack.
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  Speaker 1: You can find them online the Ohio Pressnetwork dot com
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  Speaker 1: and also find his podcast or his his zoom thing
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  Speaker 1: going on at the Windsor Report. I think we missed well.
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  Speaker 1: I did a real quick search, Jack wins they're talking
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  Speaker 1: about you mentioned the six billion dollars of medicaid fraud
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  Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio alone. I just looked
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  Speaker 1: up how much Ohio collection property taxes. Obviously a real
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  Speaker 1: problem for ohioan's property taxes, and they're trying to do
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  Speaker 1: legislative fixes, and we know that they're on it. We
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  Speaker 1: think there's going to be a petition now to maybe
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  Speaker 1: put a eradication of Ohio property taxes on the in
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  Speaker 1: the constitution. Chaos kind of thing, it will ensue, at
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  Speaker 1: least we learned that from our elected officials. But twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two calendar year nineteen and a half billion collected
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  Speaker 1: six billion dollars just in medicaid fraud that you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: in the last segment, that's twenty five percent of the
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  Speaker 1: entire property tax and that's just one program. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if they if they went out and ferreted out all
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  Speaker 1: the fraud wasted abuse cer he did a great job
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  Speaker 1: of cracking down. Let's say they got ninety percent of
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  Speaker 1: what's currently being stolen. It seems like that would go
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  Speaker 1: a long way to solving our property tax problem. Jack right.
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  Speaker 15: I mean, one of the things I really appreciate, appreciate
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  Speaker 15: about State Representative Mike Tavilla, who is the guy who
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  Speaker 15: did the deep dive into Ohio Medicaid and by the way,
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  Speaker 15: the auditor is still looking into that.
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  Speaker 3: More reports will come out. But he is also the
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  Speaker 3: guy who has.
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  Speaker 15: Introduced this zero based budget idea, saying that every decade
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  Speaker 15: we go back to zero.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're a.
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  Speaker 15: State agency, you have to prove one that you should exist,
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  Speaker 15: and two you have to account for why you need
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  Speaker 15: every penny that the General Assembly would hand over to you.
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  Speaker 15: I think that's the type of rigor that we need
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  Speaker 15: in the system, because again, you have a governor and
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  Speaker 15: maybe even a Republican party that for decades has gone, Wow,
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  Speaker 15: that's just kind of the cost of doing business hogwash,
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  Speaker 15: because if you can collect, I mean, it's kind of
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  Speaker 15: like Jesus using, you know, five loaves and two fish
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  Speaker 15: to feed everybody, right, Imagine if we just picked up
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  Speaker 15: the crumbs once in a while, we'd have enough twelve
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  Speaker 15: baskets to go feed everybody. I mean, we've got to
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  Speaker 15: stop treating taxpayer dollars as if they don't matter, because
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  Speaker 15: at the end of.
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  Speaker 1: The day, they do, absolutely do. And again, I view
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  Speaker 1: this as totally non partisan. Totally non partisan, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll just pivot work because I do it all
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  Speaker 1: the time. But I need the opportunity to get it
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  Speaker 1: out of my system. When I think about it, I
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  Speaker 1: viewed school choice as totally non partisan. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: if you're in a commedy house, why wouldn't you want
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to send your kids to wherever the hell
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  Speaker 1: you want. You know what is political about that? The
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: only people it might harm are the teachers union because
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  Speaker 1: it's going to force them to learn how to compete
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  Speaker 1: with the higher performing schools that they're competing with. For
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: a change, God, what's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 15: Now, let me peeve everybody off by saying what I'm
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  Speaker 15: about to say.
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  Speaker 3: I just am amazed.
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  Speaker 15: I'm in awe at how often progressives stumble out of
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  Speaker 15: the gate. I always think about a racehorse track, you know,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 15: the horses come out of the shoot. These guys trip
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  Speaker 15: like the first two steps. Let me give you an example.
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  Speaker 15: They're all about choice, man. If they want an abortion,
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  Speaker 15: it's my body, my choice. But when it was COVID,
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  Speaker 15: it was your body and my choice that you need
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 15: to mask and get a mandated vaccine. And now they're saying, well,
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  Speaker 15: it's your student, it's my choice. I don't think you
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  Speaker 15: should have it.
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  Speaker 3: These people are so bast awkwards man, that's the problem.
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  Speaker 15: But yeah, I think we should all love liberty to
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  Speaker 15: the point that we actually trust the adults in the
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  Speaker 15: room if they can be adults. And at the end
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  Speaker 15: of the day, if you come from a COMMI house
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  Speaker 15: go look for a Kami school to send your kid.
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  Speaker 15: I should be able to send my kid to a
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  Speaker 15: school that teaches reading, writing, arithmetic.
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  Speaker 1: Classical education is exactly what I would choose for my
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  Speaker 1: children if we do it all over again, although fortunately
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  Speaker 1: I got them through the public schools before they went
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: full on far left woke bent. We can continue our
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: conversation with Jack Windsor. The Ohio Teachers Union apparently has
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: made a stance on ice continuing an education theme. Plus,
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: he interviewed vvk Ramaswaman the other day and I have
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: done that as well. Great guy, next governor of the
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  Speaker 1: state of Ohio. We'll find out what Jack learned from
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  Speaker 1: v VAK after these Don't Go Away eight fifty five
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• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: those working hard to bring these matters to our attention
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: and of course to speak truth to power, pivoting over
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: to the Teachers' union itself, I guess pardon me, wants
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  Speaker 1: to understand why they would even take a stance on ICE,
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: given that they're supposed to be educators. But they did,
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  Speaker 1: I suppose Jack windsor what's the story here with the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio Teachers Union.
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  Speaker 15: The Ohio Education Association represents about one hundred thousand educators,
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  Speaker 15: and they've issued some directives opposing ICE enforcement as it
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  Speaker 15: would relate to resisting warrants if they're not signed by judges,
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  Speaker 15: so administrative warrants, and to refer federal agents to administrators. Now,
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  Speaker 15: to be real, frank, that all makes sense legally and logistically.
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  Speaker 3: However, where THEE.
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  Speaker 15: Went off the proverbial cliff was when their president, Jeff
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  Speaker 15: Wensingh said OEA opposes ICE enforcement in or near schools.
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  Speaker 15: That's the first red flag. And then he framed schools
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  Speaker 15: as so called safe zones. So what he's saying without
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  Speaker 15: saying it is ICE makes the schools unsafe. And then
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  Speaker 15: the third thing that he said was, well, look, we
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  Speaker 15: prize the opportunity to educate all kids, and the people
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  Speaker 15: who support that go, well, he's just following the letter
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  Speaker 15: of the law and giving resources. And there are some
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  Speaker 15: school districts Columbus Hilliard have condemned ICE activities, citing fear
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 15: among immigrant communities and vowing to protect all students. But
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  Speaker 15: here's the issue. Far from fostering unity, this resistance to
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  Speaker 15: me erodes the foundational principle of law and order, which
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  Speaker 15: is what we should be reflecting in our schools and
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 15: that schools should instill in every student. And it's prioritizing
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  Speaker 15: the accommodation of illegal immigration over accountability and citizenship. And
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 15: here's the bottom line. We have unlimited ones and limited resources.
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  Speaker 15: So you have a certain amount of time and a
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  Speaker 15: certain amount of money, and that time and that money
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  Speaker 15: ought to be devoted to the students who are there legally.
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  Speaker 15: That's one of the challenges that many people have with this.
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  Speaker 15: And by the way, the same people who are clamoring
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  Speaker 15: and want the people who are there illegally to be
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  Speaker 15: educated are also the people that will tell you there
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  Speaker 15: aren't enough funds in our school system.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe going back to fraud, waste and abuse, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: we got like six billion dollars we could round up
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  Speaker 1: for medicaid. Hey, why not use that or whatever, considering
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: your point a very valid one finite amount of dollars
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  Speaker 1: and an infant number of needs and demands on government
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  Speaker 1: to use that money for all. Right, This sounds to me, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: if I was in front of a classroom, if I
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  Speaker 1: was an educator, this topic sounds like a wonderful civics
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  Speaker 1: lesson opportunity. You can explain the concept of federal laws
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  Speaker 1: and federal supremacy. You can talk about the concept of
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: the laws that are on the books regarding who is
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: lawfully in our country and who is not. Now, then
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: you subset and say we can have a disagreement on
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: the state of the law. We could argue about whether
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: that's a good law or a bad law, and we
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: can make decisions in a democratic society representative form of government,
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  Speaker 1: of course, giving an opportunity to talk about that, to
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  Speaker 1: elect people who will either abide by that because we
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: like it, or change it because we don't. This is
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  Speaker 1: how it works. Though the Feds are allowed to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I am maybe personally against it, but it is lawful.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great civics lesson.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it would be a great you should teach that.
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  Speaker 3: You should teach that because at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I've been screaming for weeks.
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  Speaker 15: You have the legislative branch that makes laws, the executive
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 15: branch that enforces laws, and the judicial branch that handles
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 15: the squabbles. These guys, these agents are actually going out
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  Speaker 15: and enforcing the law. That's their constitutional prerogative. That these
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  Speaker 15: are laws that have been enacted by Congress. And so
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  Speaker 15: we can squabble over a warrant signed by a judge
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  Speaker 15: versus a warrant signed by an administrator. But at the
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  Speaker 15: end of the day, even the courts have said, if
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  Speaker 15: it is a you know, final pickup, they have the authority,
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  Speaker 15: even with an administrative warrant, to go in and do that.
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  Speaker 15: And I'm going to remind people, Brian, I didn't think
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  Speaker 15: I was going to go down this alley, but I will.
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  Speaker 15: The number one issue when we talk about the bad
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  Speaker 15: people being here are gang members, right MS thirteen trendy Arragua. Well,
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  Speaker 15: guess what the wheelhouse for those gang members ages fifteen
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  Speaker 15: to twenty three. And I will remind you we picked
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  Speaker 15: up a twenty three year old gang member in Perry'sburg,
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  Speaker 15: Ohio who was posing as a sixteen year old student
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  Speaker 15: in the school. So to pretend like we're going after
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  Speaker 15: innocent children is not the full story. Sometimes there are
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  Speaker 15: gang members in the school, and shame on the schools
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  Speaker 15: for not doing their due diligence to make sure that
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  Speaker 15: the student enrolled is the actual student.
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  Speaker 1: Jeez, Louiz, you know here I was thinking, maybe they
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  Speaker 1: were just going into schools to get educators who are
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  Speaker 1: unlawfully in our country who may have been convict that
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: of child molestation or something. You got adults going to
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: your high school. Isn't that something political stripe, regardless that
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: you don't want to have happening. I would think most
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: people logically and reasonably would say yeah, But we don't
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: live in a logical and reasonable time, Jack windsor pivoting
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: over the man. I have been impressed by vvik Ramaswami
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: ever since I interviewed him at his book Woke Incorporated.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: Brilliant Man. He is demonstrably successful, proven businessman, has solutions,
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: has answers, knows how business works, knows where the problems
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: are that we all face, the struggles with the regulatory structure,
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. So not a proven political candidate,
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: but a proven demonstrably competent man who can manage conversation too. Boy,
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: he is brilliant when it comes to conversation. Jack, you
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: interviewed him the other day. What was your takeaway?
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  Speaker 15: My takeaway, there's an old proverb that comes to mind,
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 15: where there is no vision, that people will perish, and
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 15: vivik Ramaswami has a vision. He has a vision for
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 15: bold change and many people are attracted to that vision.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 15: One of the things we talked about in the interview
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 15: yesterday is his gubernatorial fundraising records nine point eight million
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  Speaker 15: in the second half of twenty twenty five, pushing the
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 15: total for the year to nearly twenty million dollars heading
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 15: into twenty twenty six. That is a boatload of money.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 15: And then to your point about him being a political outsider,
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 15: I asked him, why did you choose Senate President Rob
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 15: McCully as your running mate? And he said, Senate President
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  Speaker 15: McCully is a strong leader who's well respected by the
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  Speaker 15: members of the General Assembly. He knows Ohio and not
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 15: only brings geographical balance, but he has the ability to
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 15: go to lawmakers and make the changes on the lawbooks
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  Speaker 15: that we'll need so that we're not just implementing changes
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  Speaker 15: by executive order.
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  Speaker 1: And last time I talked to it's kind of funny
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: you brought that element up. Jack is because I said, so,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: he knows the sausage making process, right, Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I've been outsider. He's been through this whole time.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: He's a well oiled machine to get the stuff run through.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be a great one two punch, and I embrace
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: him for that, Jack Windsor keep up the great work, man.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: I check out your site all the time for my
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: listeners again, the Ohio pres Network. Joe Strec will put
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Joe Strek will put a link up to
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: that on my blog page fifty five KC dot com
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: along with link to this conversation. Jack, I welcome the
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: opportunity to have you back on the fifty five Casceny
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: Morning Show. So have a great week, have a great weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Be safe out there, try to stay off the road,
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  Speaker 1: stay warm, and we will talk very soon.