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- 0:04Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:07Speaker 1: It's Friday, February seven. The White House is scrambling to
- 0:13Speaker 1: deal with the fallout from President Donald Trump's big plan
- 0:16Speaker 1: to take control of the Gaza Strip. Secretary of State
- 0:19Speaker 1: Marco Rubio says any relocations of Palestinians would be temporary
- 0:23Speaker 1: while Gaza is rebuilt. The brother of missing woman Bromwyn
- 0:28Speaker 1: Winfield has called on a coroner to investigate a Sydney
- 0:31Speaker 1: home where he says her body may be hidden. A
- 0:34Speaker 1: new episode of the Australians chart topping investigative podcast Bromwin
- 0:39Speaker 1: is out now at Bromwyn podcast dot com. Donald Trump
- 0:46Speaker 1: is on our gender policy blitz. He signed an executive
- 0:49Speaker 1: order banning transgender athletes from women's competitions. So what does
- 0:54Speaker 1: it mean for the future of sport?
- 0:56Speaker 2: That's today's episode.
- 1:19Speaker 1: At the Paris Olympics, Algerian welterweight boxer Imman Kalif put
- 1:24Speaker 1: on a phenomenal display of strength and speed.
- 1:28Speaker 3: The International Olympic Committee is playing defense a day after
- 1:31Speaker 3: an Algerian boxer deemed a biological male, faced off against
- 1:36Speaker 3: an Italian opponent who has hit so hard she stopped
- 1:38Speaker 3: the fight.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Italian Angela Karini could take no more, feeling unfairly overpowered
- 1:44Speaker 1: by Imanhalif.
- 1:45Speaker 4: Remember the crowd is absolutely roaring inside here at Sene
- 1:49Speaker 4: Court at Roland Garros Stadium, fifteen thousand fans and really
- 1:55Speaker 4: started the conversation at poured petrol on this issue of
- 2:00Speaker 4: x Y athletes and trans athletes being able to participate
- 2:04Speaker 4: at the Olympics.
- 2:06Speaker 1: That's our chief sports writer Jess Halleran, who was in
- 2:09Speaker 1: Paris for the Games. Khalif isn't trans. She declared she
- 2:13Speaker 1: was born a woman and she's recognized as female on
- 2:15Speaker 1: her passport. But this is twenty twenty five and politics
- 2:19Speaker 1: is less about the nuance and all about the heat
- 2:22Speaker 1: and light.
- 2:23Speaker 5: With this executive order, the war on women's sports is over.
- 2:29Speaker 1: At the White House, surrounded by a crowd of beaming women,
- 2:32Speaker 1: Trump invoked that boxing match and demand Khalif's subsequent gold
- 2:37Speaker 1: medal as one of the reasons he's banning transgender athletes
- 2:41Speaker 1: from women's sport.
- 2:42Speaker 5: And who could forget last year's Paris Olympics, where a
- 2:45Speaker 5: male boxer stole the women's gold medal after brutalizing his
- 2:49Speaker 5: female opponents so viciously that she had to forfeit just
- 2:53Speaker 5: after forty six seconds. And she was a championship fighter.
- 2:56Speaker 5: And actually they had two women or two people that transition,
- 3:00Speaker 5: and both of them won gold medals, and they won
- 3:04Speaker 5: them very convincingly.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Trump signed an executive order stripping federal funding from schools
- 3:12Speaker 1: and universities that allow transgender women and girls to compete
- 3:16Speaker 1: in female sports.
- 3:18Speaker 5: And this doesn't have to be long. It's just all
- 3:20Speaker 5: about common sense. Doesn't have to be long. In a
- 3:24Speaker 5: few moments, I'll sign a historic executive order to ban
- 3:29Speaker 5: men from competing in women's sports.
- 3:31Speaker 1: It's about that. The order is called keeping Men out
- 3:36Speaker 1: of Women's Sports, and it's an interpretation of something called
- 3:40Speaker 1: Title nine, that's a fifty year old federal law banning
- 3:44Speaker 1: sex discrimination in education.
- 3:47Speaker 5: Under the Trump administration, we will defend the proud tradition
- 3:52Speaker 5: of female athletes, and we will not allow men to
- 3:55Speaker 5: beat up, injure and cheat our women and our girls.
- 3:59Speaker 5: From now on, women in sports will be only for women.
- 4:07Speaker 1: As Trump spoke, bureaucrats and officials across government, from health
- 4:11Speaker 1: care to defense and the criminal justice system, we're adjusting
- 4:15Speaker 1: to the new mood. They're concerned they'll lose federal funding
- 4:18Speaker 1: if they continue operating in the ways they have been.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Public servants have been ordered to remove pronouns from their
- 4:26Speaker 1: email signatures. In the health system, references to gender diversity,
- 4:30Speaker 1: and even the acronym LGBT have been scrubbed from government websites.
- 4:35Speaker 1: The military has halted recruitment of transgender personnel, placed trans
- 4:40Speaker 1: service members on administrative leave, and limited access to spaces
- 4:44Speaker 1: like bathrooms on base. Trump says that's led directly to
- 4:50Speaker 1: an optic in recruitment.
- 4:52Speaker 5: Every single day, nearly three hundred and fifty new soldiers
- 4:55Speaker 5: enlisted to defend our nation, and they're very, very happy
- 5:00Speaker 5: to have done so. They just said there's a spirit
- 5:02Speaker 5: about our country that they haven't seen in many, many years,
- 5:06Speaker 5: and I happen to agree with that.
- 5:12Speaker 1: In hospitals, patients receiving gender related treatment have found their
- 5:16Speaker 1: prescriptions aren't being filled and their surgery is canceled. Transgender
- 5:20Speaker 1: inmates held in the nation's prisons are being transferred between
- 5:24Speaker 1: facilities transgender women to men's prisons and vice versa, and
- 5:29Speaker 1: the distribution of many millions of dollars in aight. It
- 5:31Speaker 1: has been stopped following claims it was funding diversity, equity
- 5:35Speaker 1: and inclusion initiatives abroad. DEI is the Trump administration's forbidden acronym.
- 5:42Speaker 1: It's prompted a wave of legal action from trans military
- 5:45Speaker 1: recruits and prisoner advocates who say vulnerable people are being
- 5:49Speaker 1: discriminated against and put at risk.
- 5:55Speaker 5: So in recent years, the radical left has waged an
- 5:58Speaker 5: all out campaign to erase the very concept of biological
- 6:01Speaker 5: sex and replace it with a militant transgender ideology. You've
- 6:06Speaker 5: heard a little bit about this, haven't you anna just
- 6:08Speaker 5: a little bit? Does anybody agree with them?
- 6:13Speaker 4: It would be not a good.
- 6:14Speaker 5: Thing to say yes. Radio female athletes have been forced
- 6:18Speaker 5: onto the front lines, and men claiming to be girls
- 6:22Speaker 5: have stolen more than three thousand, five hundred victories that's
- 6:25Speaker 5: a lot, and invaded more than eleven thousand competitions designed
- 6:30Speaker 5: for women.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Coming on what now for women's sport? Don't forget. We're
- 6:38Speaker 1: hosting a very special live event at the Art Gallery
- 6:41Speaker 1: of New South Wales in Sydney later this month. Join
- 6:44Speaker 1: Broman creator Headley Thomas, as well as National Crime correspondent
- 6:48Speaker 1: David Murray, senior writer Matthew Condon and me on February
- 6:51Speaker 1: twenty seven for an exciting live discussion of all things
- 6:55Speaker 1: true crime podcasting. It's open to the public and you
- 6:58Speaker 1: can get your tickets right now at the Australian Plus
- 7:01Speaker 1: dot com dot a U. That's the Australian p l
- 7:04Speaker 1: US dot com dot a U. The other case that
- 7:26Speaker 1: many people would remember is the swimmer Leah Thomas, someone
- 7:29Speaker 1: who has gone through mal puberty but who is a
- 7:32Speaker 1: trans woman.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Thomas wins the NCAA Championship.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Hated a very tell me about the Lea Thomas case.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Why was that so controversial?
- 7:41Speaker 4: It was controversial because Leah Thomas was actually a member
- 7:46Speaker 4: of the University of Pennsylvania's men's swim team for a
- 7:50Speaker 4: long time, and she then went on to transition to
- 7:56Speaker 4: become a woman, and in March twenty twenty two she
- 8:00Speaker 4: won an nc double A first division title in freestyle,
- 8:05Speaker 4: and she also did this incredible interview with Sports Illustrated
- 8:09Speaker 4: where she said she wanted to swim at the parents'
- 8:11Speaker 4: Olympic Games and from that it triggered change. It really
- 8:16Speaker 4: set world aquatics into a bit of a spin about
- 8:19Speaker 4: what to do around their policies and what happened in
- 8:22Speaker 4: the end that World Aquatics made the decision to effectively
- 8:26Speaker 4: ban trans women from competing in female categories at an
- 8:32Speaker 4: Olympic and world level.
- 8:37Speaker 1: That's at World swimming at odds with the International Olympic Committee,
- 8:40Speaker 1: which was more open to including trans athletes in women's competitions.
- 8:46Speaker 1: You cover a lot of sports, Jess, from athletics to
- 8:49Speaker 1: rugby league to sports like swimming. What do you hear
- 8:53Speaker 1: from athletes female athletes about what they want to happen
- 8:57Speaker 1: in relation to this issue.
- 8:59Speaker 4: I think they want a fair playing field. I think
- 9:03Speaker 4: women have had to fight very hard for attention in
- 9:06Speaker 4: this space, to be treated fairly, to get adequate training facilities.
- 9:11Speaker 4: Even to this day, you look at say female football clubs,
- 9:15Speaker 4: women are using the gym after the men have done
- 9:19Speaker 4: their time in the gym. They're always second to the
- 9:22Speaker 4: men's teams. It's never really even because it hasn't been
- 9:27Speaker 4: a level playing field yet. What they're saying privately is
- 9:32Speaker 4: that many female athletes are outraged that this has been allowed.
- 9:36Speaker 4: It's created a huge debate and a lot of stress
- 9:39Speaker 4: for women at times. But they've also been very afraid
- 9:43Speaker 4: of publicly saying so, like it is deemed to be
- 9:47Speaker 4: stepping out of line or not being seen as being
- 9:51Speaker 4: accepting of all people if you push back against elite
- 9:54Speaker 4: female trans athletes. A lot of.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Institutions have had to deal with the the idea that
- 10:00Speaker 1: people want to change gender, the military, the criminal justice system, education,
- 10:06Speaker 1: But it's really sport where it's the most visible and
- 10:09Speaker 1: where some people like Martina and Evradelover have spoken out
- 10:12Speaker 1: very publicly. How do you think sport has handled it
- 10:16Speaker 1: and what difference will it make that Donald Trump is
- 10:19Speaker 1: now being so very clear and forceful about imposing his view.
- 10:24Speaker 4: I think hopefully it will bring sporting bodies into line
- 10:27Speaker 4: with what should be, especially at an elite level, just
- 10:31Speaker 4: really fair. I think once you get to that elite level,
- 10:34Speaker 4: it's not about feelings anymore. You're seeing a new generation
- 10:38Speaker 4: of leaders rise. The people lighting up to replace Olympic
- 10:42Speaker 4: President Thomas Bark. The likes of Christi Coventry and Sebastian
- 10:46Speaker 4: co are two figures in world sport who are really
- 10:51Speaker 4: making it clear that they're going to push back against
- 10:56Speaker 4: trans women competing in the elite female sports.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Jessica Hallerin is The Australian's chief sports writer. You can
- 11:08Speaker 1: get your head around the first weeks of the new
- 11:11Speaker 1: Trump administration. Anytime at the Australian dot com dot au