Latest / King Dems Podcast | Growth Mindset, Leadership, AI and Business Insights / Growth Mindset Strategies That Transform Leaders ft Yuan Yufeng
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- 0:00Let go of that which no longer serves you and know that what
- 0:03once served you might not serve you right now and might not
- 0:07serve your highest self. I carry things and I use.
- 0:10I used to carry things so much. I was that junior monk man.
- 0:13I wasn't the senior monk, bro. I didn't set the woman down at
- 0:16the river. And one of my bad habits in the
- 0:18past was holding on to things too long.
- 0:20And it's something that I'm working on.
- 0:22And with everything that I'm able to let go of, I'm more
- 0:25free, I'm more happy, got more peaceful.
- 0:27So what I would say to myself is if it's past, if it's in the
- 0:31past, just let it go. If you can make it right, make
- 0:33it right. If you can't or if there's no
- 0:36need to, let it go. Where attention goes, energy
- 0:39flows and reality grows. So focus your energy on what you
- 0:43want to grow, not on what you don't.
- 0:47That's that's what I'd say. Before we dive back into today's
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- 2:00yourself. Welcome to the King Dems
- 2:09podcast, where we share the stories of extraordinary people
- 2:12and dissect hot, relevant topics that shape our world.
- 2:15From visionary leaders to trailblazing creatives, we
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- 2:39We are live, ladies and gentlemen, once again, welcome
- 2:41to the Kingdom's podcast and Diary of the CFO.
- 2:44And today I've got. With me a VVVIP fighting out of
- 2:51Beijing, China by way of California, United States of
- 2:55America. Beck Walker, you are, you fag.
- 3:03Let's go, brother. Adam Ola, thank you bro.
- 3:08I I love the the very passionate.
- 3:10Welcome bro. It's a pleasure to be here bro.
- 3:13Bro I guess you you'd be like. Oh man, man, man.
- 3:17I'm a fighter now. Let's do this.
- 3:20Let's do this. Let's do this.
- 3:23Whoa, you know, I, I love the UFC a lot.
- 3:25And what a lot of people don't know about me is, you know, a
- 3:31lot of people think, oh, he's a finance guy, He's a finance bro,
- 3:34Marty. Martial artists as well.
- 3:37So growing up, growing up in Lagos, Nigeria, I was a skinny
- 3:42kid. A lot of people used to think,
- 3:43oh, we can believe this one and that.
- 3:45That forced me to get into martial arts.
- 3:47So I got into Taekwondo. From Taekwondo I moved to karate
- 3:51and karate, did a bit of judo and ended up with mixed martial
- 3:56arts, mixed martial artists, just everything.
- 3:58That's the best thing in a street fight, you know, you have
- 4:03your striking, your wrestling and the grappling.
- 4:08So that is why I'm very, very, very big on the UFC and the UFC
- 4:13has produced a lot of champion and you are also a champion
- 4:19brother, and that's why I have you here.
- 4:22So sit back and let me give you your flowers.
- 4:26So our champions today we are joined by a man who embodies
- 4:30global legacy leadership at a level uranium, a communicator, A
- 4:35poet, a teacher, a community builder, a linguist, A
- 4:38storyteller, and a connector of millionaire and billionaire
- 4:41mentors to the next generation of change makers.
- 4:44Yuan Yufeng is the founder of Billions of Hooters and the head
- 4:48of community at the School of Mentors, the world's number one
- 4:52entrepreneurship community. He has lived and worked across
- 4:57China, Indonesia, the United States, and beyond.
- 5:00He has taught to, LED, written, performed, coached, and created
- 5:03systems to elevate thousands of entrepreneurs.
- 5:06This episode is a journey through self mastery, identity,
- 5:10communications, leadership, and global citizenship.
- 5:13Joran is the man who sits at the intersection of wisdom and
- 5:16execution. Today pull the curtain back on
- 5:19the mindset, skill set and the tool set that shaped him.
- 5:23Joran, we honour your presence on the Kingdom's Parkas and
- 5:27Diary of the CFO. You are welcome, Rasha.
- 5:30Wow, sure. Thank you Introduction is is a
- 5:36mouthful because you know your. Your journey is a globe fool.
- 5:42Yeah, I appreciate you dedicating the the oxygen to the
- 5:46intro bro. Thank you.
- 5:50Whoa brother, where? Where do we start from?
- 5:52You know, like you love to see. You were made in China but
- 5:56raised in America. You're just like Apple Brother.
- 6:00You're designed in in America, but but made in China.
- 6:04Talk, talk, Talk to us about it, brother.
- 6:08Yeah, so as as Adam Ola said, and as I often say, I was indeed
- 6:14made in China, but the quality is good.
- 6:17I was born 1995 I think I'm dating myself a bit, but I was
- 6:22born 1995 in Wuhan in the Hubei province of China and.
- 6:28Wuhan. In Wuhan, dude.
- 6:33Wuhan. Hey bro.
- 6:38The notorious Wuhan. Before 2020 nobody knew Wuhan.
- 6:43After 2020 everybody knows Wuhan dude.
- 6:46So it is what it is. It is what it is.
- 6:53I'm not going to say anything I don't want.
- 6:57I don't want to get cancelled. I love China.
- 6:59I love China. That's.
- 7:01Funny, dude. So yeah, I was.
- 7:05I was made in China, in Wuhan, and I grew up in Wuhan a little
- 7:10bit in Changsha, another town in China, and then in a small
- 7:14provincial city called Songzhu in the Hubei province.
- 7:19And then I moved to the States at age 6.
- 7:24Yeah. And at the time, it was a huge
- 7:27change, man. I changed my language.
- 7:29I changed my name, my identity. I wasn't able to stay in touch
- 7:35with some of my loved ones who had raised me from birth till
- 7:39age 6. So it was just a time of
- 7:41enormous, enormous change, and it had a massive impact on me
- 7:45moving forward in my life. So yeah, that's that's the
- 7:49origin. Wow, so you live in China,
- 7:53Indonesia, the US and of course you operate across several
- 7:57languages. So when you look back at your
- 8:00early life and global upbringing, what woman planted
- 8:03that seed for self mastery and, you know, positive global
- 8:06change? It's interesting, I think
- 8:10growing up switching languages at age 6 is very difficult.
- 8:15You, you pick it. I, I picked it up pretty
- 8:17quickly, but I always felt like I wasn't able to express myself.
- 8:23You know, I had all these feelings and all these emotions.
- 8:26And when the, the language level is not sufficient to express
- 8:31myself, like there's frustration, there's anger.
- 8:35And also I looked around and I saw like, hey, throughout
- 8:38history, all the greatest leaders have all been amazing
- 8:41communicators. So I really just focused in on
- 8:45that, honed in on that. And I'm not sure I, I think
- 8:51everybody's born into the world with their own unique karma.
- 8:55I'm very grateful to have been born with a more altruistic
- 8:59direction. I like helping people.
- 9:03I like positivity. I want to see a better world for
- 9:06everybody. And that's, that's always been a
- 9:09part of who I am, but I've definitely leaned into that more
- 9:13and more throughout the years. So I wouldn't say that it was,
- 9:16it was one exact moment, but it's definitely been a very
- 9:21intentional honing and elevation of what I'm naturally born with.
- 9:29Natural born leader and it's interesting switching languages
- 9:34at the age of 6. So I, I can't remember where I
- 9:37read this, but I read that kids are, would I say children find
- 9:44it easy to learn multiple different languages, especially
- 9:48before the age of five, but six, OK, Yeah, you're still, you're
- 9:53still pretty much there, right? And I look at myself, for
- 9:57example, I grew up in Nigeria and in Nigeria, we have multiple
- 10:01different ethnic groups, multiple languages.
- 10:04Nigeria is a country of over 220 million people and people don't
- 10:10realise that there are over 250 ethnic languages in Nigeria and
- 10:16my father is from one ethnic group, my mom is from another
- 10:19ethnic group. And that's why I have AI, you
- 10:23know, have a good have a good hybrid.
- 10:26So people who? Understand the demography of
- 10:29Nigeria and the geography of Nigeria would understand that my
- 10:32first name is Adimala. Adimala is a Yoruba name and my
- 10:36middle name is Isima which is and Edo name is an Nishan name,
- 10:41right? So growing up I had to learn
- 10:43Yoruba. I had to learn my mom's
- 10:46language, Nishan. I think that was the first local
- 10:49language I learned. And in Nigeria we also have a
- 10:53Creole called Pigeon English. Right.
- 10:56So it's it's like English scattered.
- 11:01Yeah, I don't know how to explain it, but like you, you
- 11:06would feel like this person speak English, but it's not.
- 11:08English. If you don't understand the
- 11:12semantics, the syntax, the language structure, you'd be.
- 11:16You can't literally get sold. By people speaking something
- 11:20that sounds like. English and also you not even
- 11:22learn the proper English so I had to get master of like 4
- 11:25languages. So I understand like
- 11:33understanding. Four different languages, code
- 11:36switching. You know, sometimes you're
- 11:38speaking to somebody who is speaking one language and you
- 11:42need to switch to another part of your brain.
- 11:44Like, OK, we're not, we're not doing the English right now.
- 11:47We're doing maybe Yoruba, we're doing another language.
- 11:50And you need to flow and express yourself, right?
- 11:55So, but then there's always that primary language.
- 11:58And I tell people, your primary language is that language that
- 12:02you think in. So what language do you think
- 12:06here? Do you think in Chinese?
- 12:08Do you think in English? It's, it's interesting because
- 12:13I've till six I thought in Chinese and then from from 6 to
- 12:20like 29 1/2 I thought in English and now I'm very intentionally
- 12:28thinking in Chinese. So what?
- 12:34What language do you pray in? What language do what?
- 12:38Do you pray in? What language do I pray in both?
- 12:43But recently it's been more and more Chinese and let let me just
- 12:48dive into why, because I mean, that's that's the big question,
- 12:51right? Like why, Adam?
- 12:53I'll, I'll share an incredible experience I had.
- 12:56Dude, I I was working for a start up.
- 12:59It was called Atlas back. It was a posture correction
- 13:02device and I was looking for investors for the company.
- 13:05I walked into a water shop, an alkaline water shop in Thousand
- 13:10Oaks, CA and I met this local physical therapist.
- 13:14His name is Dan Kinney, you can look him up.
- 13:16Dan Kinney physical therapy. And Dan used to work with
- 13:20Olympian athletes, bro, and he focus on posture and posture
- 13:24correction. And me and Dan, we hit it off in
- 13:27this water shop and Dan was collaborating with the owner and
- 13:32doing giving like free posture correction sessions as Li Jen, I
- 13:35think. And he gave me a free posture
- 13:38correction session, bro. And when I stood up from his
- 13:40table, I felt this whoosh, this like primal rush of energy just
- 13:45shoot up my spine. And accompanied with that, there
- 13:49was a voice in my head that started saying my Chinese name
- 13:53you. And you, you phone which I
- 13:55hadn't used since I moved from China to the US So bro, I'm
- 13:59hearing in my head, your new phone, your new phone, your new
- 14:02phone, my Chinese name chanting itself over and over again.
- 14:06And I'm feeling strong, bro. I'm feeling like the strongest
- 14:09I've ever felt in my body. And I'm like, what is this all
- 14:12about? You know, like, why does fixing
- 14:15my posture, why did it activate this energy?
- 14:18Why am I hearing my Chinese name?
- 14:21And I decided to go on a journey to relearn Chinese.
- 14:24After that point, I'm like, there's something here, I need
- 14:27to relearn Chinese. And what I realised is that
- 14:32there was a lot of my power that I am now able to access because
- 14:39I've relearned Chinese, because Chinese was my mother tongue.
- 14:43A lot of people have the mother tongue and they learn extra
- 14:46languages on top of that mother tongue, but they still have the
- 14:49foundation of the mother tongue. For me, my foundation, I had no
- 14:54way to access it when I moved to the States.
- 14:57So a lot of energy and a lot of different patterns were still
- 15:01running. Bro, there was a point in my
- 15:03life where I'd rewired my mind completely in English, but I
- 15:08still wasn't getting the results that I wanted.
- 15:10And I was like, why? And when I started rewiring my
- 15:13mind in Chinese, rewiring some of those thinking patterns,
- 15:18dude, my life changed for the better very quickly.
- 15:21And like it is only getting better the more I think in
- 15:24Chinese and work through some of those old patterns that I wasn't
- 15:28even able to access until I relearned Chinese.
- 15:34You know, you might be of the conversation I was having with a
- 15:36doctor friend of mine, I said a lot of people suffer from
- 15:40identity crisis. How can you understand the
- 15:46environment around you if you don't even understand yourself?
- 15:50How can you know what to do if you don't know who you are?
- 15:54How can you know who you are and if you don't even know where
- 15:57you're coming from? History is a template for people
- 16:05to operate in the present and the future.
- 16:08And that's why it's really, really important for people to
- 16:10know their history and for people to have a deep and rich
- 16:16understanding of their culture. And a very big part of culture
- 16:22is language. You know, language, food, you
- 16:26know, various practises, religion, politics.
- 16:30But language, I think language, food, music are very, very
- 16:36fundamental in the framework, in the fabric of culture and
- 16:44identity. And I love the fact that you're
- 16:48very proud of your boots, you're very proud of your identity.
- 16:53So that journey is a very sacred journey, but a lot of people do
- 17:01not take it very seriously. And during the introduction, I
- 17:06touched on the pack that you were actually for it, right?
- 17:10So your journey crosses poetry, communication studies, acting,
- 17:14community leadership and entrepreneurship.
- 17:18So when did you start to realise that you were actually meant to
- 17:23build people and not just projects?
- 17:29And of course, beating people start to beating yourself.
- 17:33I think the, the more I went into my Buddhist practise, the
- 17:39more the shift went from projects and accomplishments to
- 17:43people because what, what are the achievements for?
- 17:50What are the accomplishments for?
- 17:52They're to get the love and respect and attention of other
- 17:56people. A lot of us operate in that way.
- 17:58And I will say that I operated in that way.
- 18:01And when I loved myself and I realised, hey, I can be the
- 18:05source of everything that I need.
- 18:07And when I felt better and better and better and was able
- 18:10to heal myself and find peace within, I realised one that I'm
- 18:15suffering, I was suffering and a lot of other people are
- 18:19suffering. So by going through my own
- 18:22suffering and transforming it and realising that a lot of
- 18:25other people are also suffering, it's like, hey, no, it's, it's
- 18:29all about people. And at the end of the day, man,
- 18:31like the things that bring us the most joy, at least I can
- 18:34speak for myself, are my relationships with other people.
- 18:38It's how have I impacted this person's life?
- 18:41It's not, it's not like, hey, like what did I accomplish in
- 18:44this business? It's like, no, like how many
- 18:46lives did I touch and to what level did I touch it?
- 18:50How, how much was I able to help this person grow?
- 18:52I think that's really what brings true fulfilment for me
- 18:56personally. And it's a huge aspect of
- 18:59fulfilment for, for humanity, just being able to help other
- 19:02people and add value to other people's lives.
- 19:06I think that's where the joy, the true joy of life lives.
- 19:10Yeah. You know, for people who really
- 19:13follow this podcast, they would have heard me say this most of
- 19:16the times. I'd rather impact a billion
- 19:18lives than make a billion dollars.
- 19:23That's powerful. That's powerful.
- 19:25And you know what? If you impact a billion lives,
- 19:28you will definitely make a billion dollars, I think.
- 19:33Absolutely, as long as you get your monetization for point out
- 19:37correctly, yeah. Hey, you know, they're, they're
- 19:44for me, the framework is balancing being a Buddha and a
- 19:47businessman. And we need to have both, you
- 19:49know, that's the balance right there.
- 19:52And it's, it's OK to be a Buddha and a business person at the
- 19:56same time. You know, it's OK to be rewarded
- 20:00and paid for the good work that we do.
- 20:02That's 100% OK and should be embraced actually.
- 20:08You know, one thing that really drew me to you from the School
- 20:13of Mentors was what I say the impact of your Buddha stories.
- 20:23For me, I'm a Christian, but I respect other religions and I
- 20:27strongly believe that all roads lead to the top of the same
- 20:30mountain. And people have created too many
- 20:33divisions, you know, especially in religion and politics.
- 20:36They're very, very sensitive, you know, areas.
- 20:39But I have learned to respect, you know, every other religion.
- 20:46And yeah, coming from Nigeria, you know, people practise
- 20:49different religions. I think by default, if you are a
- 20:53learner, educated, enlightened Nigeria, you'd one of the very
- 20:57first, you know, lessons you are taught in your early life is
- 21:03religious tolerance. So for me, I went above the
- 21:08tolerance to appreciation, right.
- 21:11Go study what other people are about because if you don't
- 21:16understand something, you cannot appreciate it.
- 21:19If you don't understand something then you stand under
- 21:21it. So you have like this really,
- 21:30really life changing, life impacting stories, you know,
- 21:37from the Buddha, right? And I'd like for you to share
- 21:43some of these, you know, stories, especially from a
- 21:46mindset skill set, tool set perspective, because that is
- 21:50what we stand for here, the stand for growth mindset and the
- 21:54belief that in order for you to collaborate with anybody, the
- 21:58very first thing you need to evaluate is their mindset,
- 22:02right? But you are very big on self
- 22:04mastery. And there are a lot of these,
- 22:09when I say anecdotes, these stories that connect with the
- 22:16concept of self mastery and self identity.
- 22:20So I'll leave the floor to you to, to to educate us because,
- 22:24you know, the two goals of this broadcast are to educate and to
- 22:27motivate. But you know, let's deal with
- 22:30the education aspect right now. Sounds good bro.
- 22:34I, I appreciate the, the invitation and the respect and
- 22:39know that it is offered Likewise for me, I respect all religions.
- 22:46I respect all faiths and belief systems, and I know that like,
- 22:51these are the foundations upon which people build their lives,
- 22:54you know, So I have massive respect for it.
- 22:56And for me, anything that helps humanity, that helps humans live
- 23:03healthier, happier, more empowered lives, I'm for that.
- 23:07That's what I'm for. I'm against anything that
- 23:10divides us, that weakens us and do.
- 23:13That's a very easy way to tell what to consume and what not to
- 23:17consume. Is this piece of information
- 23:20creating more division? Is it creating more conflict?
- 23:24Is it sowing more discord? Is it saying negative things
- 23:28that are not empowering? Then I just don't listen to it.
- 23:31I don't give it even a cent of my time, bro.
- 23:33Zero of my time, zero of my attention.
- 23:36The best way to kill something is to just not pay it any
- 23:40attention. And with negativity, that's what
- 23:43we got. That's what we got to do.
- 23:45Now for the other side, Anything that unifies anything that
- 23:51empowers, anything that makes humans happier, healthier,
- 23:54stronger, gives us hope. That's what I'm for.
- 23:58So yeah, that's just a quick thing on the consumption of
- 24:02information. Good paradigm to work through
- 24:05that. But back to the Buddhist
- 24:06stories, man, one of my favourites.
- 24:09And the more I study Buddhism out of MOLA, the more I'm
- 24:11feeling that the Buddhist path is the path of learning to let
- 24:15go. And the Buddhist believe that
- 24:19attachment is the root cause of all suffering.
- 24:24And it's usually an attachment to an idea of who we think we
- 24:29are or who we think we have to be in order to survive.
- 24:34There's there's so many subtle attachments in my experience
- 24:39that I had attached to that once I let go, dude, so much of my
- 24:43suffering, I'm able to let it go as well.
- 24:46So let me, let me tell you this, this story about letting go.
- 24:48So this is the story of the two monks with the woman at the
- 24:55river. Now, Buddhist monks, they're not
- 24:58supposed to, to have physical contact with, with ladies.
- 25:03And there was one day there's a a senior monk and a junior monk.
- 25:07They're walking through the forest and they come to this
- 25:10river. It's a very fast flowing river,
- 25:14kind of scary. And there's a, there's a
- 25:16beautiful lady there and she doesn't know how to cross.
- 25:20And she asks the two monks, hey, can you guys help me across this
- 25:23river, please? And without thinking about it,
- 25:27the senior monk just goes over. It's like, yeah, sure, hop on,
- 25:31I'll carry you over. And he picks her up, carries her
- 25:35over the river, sets her down and moves on.
- 25:39Now, at this time, the junior monk is like, dude, what are you
- 25:43doing? You're the senior monk.
- 25:45Like, you're not supposed to have physical contact with
- 25:47women. Like, what are you doing, bro?
- 25:49And he crosses the river after them, but he doesn't say
- 25:53anything at that moment. They keep walking.
- 25:56The senior monk and junior monk continue on their journey.
- 25:58They're walking. And the junior monk, he can't
- 26:00stop thinking about it. He's like, dude, like, why did
- 26:02this guy touch this lady? Like we're really not supposed
- 26:05to do that. And after like a couple, a
- 26:07couple miles, he just couldn't help himself.
- 26:10So he asked the senior monk. He's like, dude, like you're the
- 26:13senior monk. Like, why did you why did you
- 26:15have physical contact with that Lady?
- 26:17And the senior monk says, hey, brother, like, look, I picked
- 26:22her up. I brought her across the river
- 26:25and I set her down. Why are you still carrying her?
- 26:32Why are you still carrying her? And the lesson there, bro, is
- 26:40like, there's so many things that we attached to that we're
- 26:43carrying inside of our hearts, carrying inside of our minds.
- 26:47And for the senior monk, he wasn't attached to the rules per
- 26:52SE. He was more concerned with the
- 26:54human, with helping the human in the moment.
- 26:57And a lot of Buddhists like that, that's the true way to
- 27:01practise, put the human first, you know, like if it breaks the
- 27:04rules, but it benefits the human, do that action.
- 27:08And then this junior monk, he was holding on to convention.
- 27:11He was holding on to the rules and he was carrying the lady
- 27:15inside of his head and inside of his heart.
- 27:17And there's so many things that humans carry for so long that
- 27:22drag us down, hold us down in lower energetic states that if
- 27:27we could just learn to let go like the senior monk, that we
- 27:31would feel so much lighter immediately, bro.
- 27:33So that's the story of the two monks with the woman at the
- 27:37river. Wow.
- 27:40You know, you've actually shared the story on the School of
- 27:43Mentors and really he did touch me.
- 27:49And right now it's sinking in Defran again.
- 27:54Like it's a story that when you hear it or you tell it, it does
- 28:02heat with a new energy every time, letting go.
- 28:10Very, very important. You know, I've said this before,
- 28:12that people are too attached to constructs, to concepts, to
- 28:18ideas, to philosophies. You're not your idea, you're not
- 28:22your philosophy. And you know, for a very long
- 28:27time people believe in things that are wrong, right?
- 28:31And would kill or fight to defend that wrong position,
- 28:37right? And a lot of people don't
- 28:39realise that rules are made for man, not man made for rules.
- 28:47Wow, that's a great perspective. I like that.
- 28:57A lot of people are attached to convention, but you need to
- 29:02think about the greater good. I love that story very much.
- 29:07The woman was in need and you know, he did what he had to do
- 29:11and let her go. And you know, just from that
- 29:15moment where he drops her off, he's off his mind and he's
- 29:21continued on his journey or he's impacted her own journey
- 29:25positively. Yep.
- 29:28And this speaks to even every other religion.
- 29:31In Christianity and Islam, there are people who judge other
- 29:34people. You know, we sometimes we call
- 29:37them cooler than doubt. You know, individuals like, OK,
- 29:41you want to be holy, No problem. You be holy.
- 29:43Leave me. Just leave me alone.
- 29:45Let. Let me do my own thing, right?
- 29:47But why do people want to feel like they are better than the
- 29:51next person? Why do they want to feel like
- 29:56they're better than the next person?
- 29:58They want to feel that way because they're insecure about
- 30:03who they are and like it. It's, it's just a a lack of self
- 30:11love at the end of the day, I think.
- 30:13I mean at any time, any there's any reaching that is external,
- 30:18it's it's a lack of self love I think.
- 30:23And. You know, because if if you
- 30:25truly love yourself, then you'll be confident within yourself.
- 30:29And it also comes with experience because it's only
- 30:34after going through certain stages in life do we understand
- 30:38the experiences of others. If we don't have those
- 30:40experiences and those challenges, we truly cannot
- 30:44understand them. There's no way to imagine your
- 30:47way. You can't imagine, you can't
- 30:49envision. But there's certain things that
- 30:52you have to experience to truly understand it.
- 30:55And the correct way to practise on the path, I believe, is to
- 31:00transform it with compassion. And I think compassion is always
- 31:05the answer, dude. Zen Master tick not on.
- 31:07He said. Compassion is invincible.
- 31:11It is the only thing that is worthy of us.
- 31:14And hatred will not let you face the beast in man, but compassion
- 31:19can. And compassion can help you
- 31:21transform that. So that's my perspective on it.
- 31:30Wow, compassion, they're very important.
- 31:34If you've ever seen my my core values or heard about my core
- 31:37values, my core values to just three of them, kindness,
- 31:40respect, hospitality. You know, compassion is a very,
- 31:45very big part of kindness. I like to tell people I'm a kind
- 31:49guy, but not a nice guy. You know, I I generally care
- 31:53about people's welfare, but I feel like niceness is about
- 31:57seeking people's validation or trying to act like you're kind
- 32:05so that people would say, oh, that's, you know, that person is
- 32:09good. So from that Buddha story, we
- 32:15could see the senior monk is actually a kind guy.
- 32:23He genuinely cares about the human.
- 32:26Yes, right. And that is what kind people do.
- 32:29They don't care about the frameworks, they don't care
- 32:31about the rules. They care about the welfare of
- 32:36the people, Right. And you talk a lot about self
- 32:41mastery. And, you know, self mastery is,
- 32:44you know, a theme of the mind. It's intrinsic.
- 32:48It's about your internal engineering.
- 32:51And in this age of time, people seek validation too much.
- 32:58And you know, I tell people I don't really care about what
- 33:02people say about me or what people try to lead on me.
- 33:06If you said I'm stupid, I'm crazy and whatever, that's,
- 33:11that's, that's on you. Thank you very much.
- 33:14Because I use this analogy. When you take $100 note, right?
- 33:19Take that $100 note. You squeeze it, you, you know,
- 33:22you grumble it, you put it in the mud, you step on it and say,
- 33:26oh, you're not $100, you're $50. OK, no problem.
- 33:29Straighten it out and take that mint one, the fresh one and take
- 33:33it to a shop. The the.
- 33:37The rugged. Rackety 1 you know, and that
- 33:42mint fresh one are going to buy the same exact things.
- 33:46So I tell people my value is not determined by whatever you call
- 33:51it, is determined by what God has, you know, quoted.
- 33:55So it's more like the central bank actually printed this thing
- 33:57and you know, you credit 100, right?
- 34:01So whatever it is you want to try to call it, it doesn't
- 34:06change it. So our value is intrinsic, is
- 34:10determined by God. Until people get to realise the
- 34:12fact that your value is actually predetermined right and cannot
- 34:16be changed by people's validation or people's
- 34:19expressions, they might not take themselves very seriously.
- 34:28Yeah, no, that's a beautiful perspective and I think it's
- 34:31true. I mean, we, I think all humans
- 34:34have inherent value. And I will say too, that that
- 34:39humans are also capable of elevating their own value.
- 34:43That that's that's a beautiful thing.
- 34:44We're all born with inherent value, but we can also learn to
- 34:49increase our value by learning to increase the level at which
- 34:54we can help other people and, and service other people and
- 34:59provide solutions to their problems.
- 35:02It's interesting, 'cause there's, there's like, there's
- 35:05worth and there's value, right? Like inherently, like we all
- 35:11have worth just as human beings, but value is, I'm starting to
- 35:16think of value in terms of like what I can do for other people,
- 35:21the, the pain that I can alleviate, the problems that I
- 35:24can solve. I'm curious about your, your
- 35:26perspective on that, Adamola, because we all have value as
- 35:29human beings, just base basic human respect, you know, And,
- 35:34but what, what's your take on that?
- 35:35The the dichotomy of worth and value or or is there a
- 35:38separation for you? So I'd say in terms of value,
- 35:44I'll link it back to that analogy that I gave, right?
- 35:49What's the value of $100? Note, you can buy certain
- 35:53things, right? And that value is intrinsic.
- 35:57It's not determined by, you know, the aesthetic.
- 36:02So it's, you know. You know what it is, bro?
- 36:05It's determined by our belief in it.
- 36:08That's what it's determined by. Because if nobody believes.
- 36:12You believe in the you believe in that $100 note, right?
- 36:15That is why you're. Going to collect it and give
- 36:16some of the value. Yes, I, I want to bring it back
- 36:22to, to the, to belief. Now, bro, let's, let's talk
- 36:26about belief for a bit. Because what is it that
- 36:29literally gives that $100 bill the power that it has?
- 36:33It's the investment of our belief in it.
- 36:36It's our acceptance of it, but without, without our belief in
- 36:41it. Like if an alien just came to
- 36:43Earth and they didn't know anything about the $100 bill and
- 36:47they didn't believe in it and like it's just me and the alien,
- 36:51just us 2 left in the world. And it's like they don't know
- 36:56what it is, they don't believe in it, then it has no value
- 37:00because they haven't invested their belief in it.
- 37:03And it's the same with people, bro.
- 37:04I think we're valuable to the level that we believe we are
- 37:09valuable. So I think it's belief at the
- 37:12end of the day. I've got a quote.
- 37:15Belief is the catalyst that transforms thoughts into
- 37:20reality. Belief is the catalyst that
- 37:24transforms thoughts into reality.
- 37:29And you know, think about it from this perspective, talk
- 37:33about belief. The reason why somebody's going
- 37:36to accept $100 note is because they believe in that note.
- 37:40I come from Nigeria. We don't spend dollars or spend
- 37:44naira. If you go to some rural areas
- 37:47and you give a local businesswoman give $100 notes,
- 37:52she's never seen $100 in her life.
- 37:54She will not accept it from you. She wants a local currency.
- 38:03Man, this, this is so interesting because now it
- 38:07brings up like, hey, if you have something beautiful to share but
- 38:10people aren't familiar with it, then you have to introduce it to
- 38:14them in a way that feels familiar in order for them to
- 38:17accept it. So like, let's say you have some
- 38:20beautiful Christian messages to share with people, but these are
- 38:23people that have never heard about Christianity or anything
- 38:27like that. I guess a good way to
- 38:29communicate those values would be through adopting them in a
- 38:34format or through subjects that these people are familiar with.
- 38:40So yeah, it's my, my mind is kind of racing with ideas now.
- 38:43So I appreciate you man. You're, you're inspiring, dude.
- 38:46Let's. Know.
- 38:48Modern day business. Philosopher for reason, brother.
- 38:52Let's go, Let's go, the Joe. Letters.
- 38:57Oh, the Joe Rogan of Africa right here with you, brother.
- 39:01We're calling it global. Top 100 Barrister and the
- 39:04barrister in your faces, from your mouth to God's ears, it's.
- 39:08Going to happen, you know. I feel like I was, I was put on
- 39:12this earth. I was born just to be a
- 39:13podcaster. Like everything that I've done
- 39:16in my life is just pointing towards that purpose, OK?
- 39:24I have been viewing this guy to become, you know, a global
- 39:28podcaster, you know. A global elite level.
- 39:32The best in the world. In order to be the best, you
- 39:36have to be to the best, and the best is blessed.
- 39:39You know, we are blessed, brother, We're blessed.
- 39:45It's quite interesting, you know, like, I love the fact that
- 39:48I'm able to connect with the brightest minds of my time.
- 39:54I grew up reading a lot of books in my father's library.
- 39:58Books and philosophy, psychology, sociology, history,
- 40:02geography, political science. And, you know, reading the
- 40:07ancient, you know, Greek philosophers and you know, some
- 40:10Oriental ones as well, lacks of Confucius.
- 40:14I used to think, how wish I could have a conversation with
- 40:16these guys and know what's happening in their head and
- 40:19trade perspectives. And no matter how brilliant you
- 40:24are or how much of A genius you are as a person, connecting with
- 40:30another genius helps you to expand the horizon.
- 40:37There's something I learned in physics, you know the angle of
- 40:42elevation and angle of depression.
- 40:46So it's about your perspective. So your perspective is limited
- 40:53to what you can see, right? And it's based off the angle.
- 40:57So if you, if you have a building, for example, you have
- 41:00this and you're standing here, you're only limited to see what
- 41:06is here. You don't know what's at the
- 41:07back. But if you're standing here, you
- 41:14can see what is down, right? If you're standing here, you can
- 41:17see what is here and you know what is here.
- 41:20So having conversations with people, right?
- 41:23So I am here and you're here, for example, so I can tell you
- 41:30about what is here. You can tell me about what's
- 41:31here. I will focus on better
- 41:34individuals. I love it, bro.
- 41:38And like, do you think that that's what happens like let's
- 41:43say when we, when we pass away, right?
- 41:45Like the Buddhist believe that we're just a drop of water
- 41:49returning to the ocean. So what if like when I pass, I'm
- 41:56able to go back with that information and say, hey, here's
- 42:02what I've learned about life. Here's all of these different
- 42:05angles, take it and run. You know, I'm, it's just so
- 42:09cool. I'm thinking about the matrix
- 42:10now. I'm thinking about some very
- 42:12interesting ideas like universal consciousness.
- 42:18But no, I I love it, dude. And I think when great minds get
- 42:23together, I'm not saying that I'm a great mind, but you are a
- 42:25great. You are, you are a great mind,
- 42:27brother. You are a great mind.
- 42:29There's no, there is no argument about it.
- 42:32You know, You know, one thing, one thing I've learned.
- 42:35Is, you know, yeah, it's beautiful, humble, right.
- 42:37But it's also good to accept our privileges.
- 42:43Yeah, we have certain privileges based off our journeys in life,
- 42:48right. So it's it's not your fault that
- 42:50you're a great mind. You just have to accept it.
- 42:53You don't have to be humble about it, right?
- 42:56Yeah, you can be humble about it.
- 42:57Yeah, but. I.
- 42:59I think probably a way to be humble about it is.
- 43:01You know, maybe framing it as I'm grateful.
- 43:04You know, to be one of the great minds.
- 43:05You know of my generation, I think, yeah.
- 43:10What here, here's something that I take pride in is
- 43:13communication. And I think it's even better to
- 43:17have a friend give you the compliment for you.
- 43:20So that's why I deflected it because I do help you out with
- 43:23that bro. So I I appreciate your assist in
- 43:27that dude. Jeff Bezos said something really
- 43:30interesting. He said we can't be proud of our
- 43:33gifts, but we can be proud of our decisions.
- 43:37And. I'm proud of all the decisions
- 43:39that I've made with the cards that I've been dealt, you know,
- 43:43with the cards that I've been dealt.
- 43:45I'm very proud of how I'm showing up.
- 43:48I'm very proud of how I'm allocating my time, energy and
- 43:52attention in the world. And I'm proud that I'm I've
- 43:55chosen to be a good person or do my best to be a good person and
- 43:59make a positive impact in the world.
- 44:00So another thing that you on right there.
- 44:04You know, you talk about Keith's right, the Bible.
- 44:09Actually in the book of Proverbs chapter 18 verse 16, it says a
- 44:13man's gift make up room for him and bring up him before great
- 44:17man. A man's gift make up room for
- 44:24him and bring up him before great man.
- 44:27Think about it. It reminds me of what our
- 44:33director of our higher ticket communities, Rob Fajardo says.
- 44:38Rob has a great networking thing because a lot of people say it's
- 44:42not what you know, it's who you know, right?
- 44:44A lot of people say that. But Rob's spin on that is
- 44:47actually it's what you know that allows you to connect with The
- 44:52Who you knows and allows you to provide the value to them.
- 44:56So it's the what you know that allows you to get in the room
- 44:59and stay in the room. So actually it's our gifts, as
- 45:03the Bible says, and it's the what that allows us access to
- 45:07The Who before we become The Who.
- 45:10So. Yeah.
- 45:13You know, that's something that the Bible says that I really
- 45:17appreciate. It says study to show thyself
- 45:19approved or workmen that need not be ashamed.
- 45:23Study to show thyself, approved a Workman that need not be
- 45:28ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
- 45:35What does that mean to you? That is, we have that
- 45:40responsibility to study. We have that responsibility to
- 45:47study for our self growth, our self development, and that is
- 45:55what's going to make you not to be ashamed.
- 45:59I love it bro because. Rightly dividing the word of
- 46:01truth. That's beautiful.
- 46:04Humans were blessed and humans also a lot of people forget.
- 46:11Maybe, maybe it's just me that forgot, but we're also organic
- 46:15beings. We're not just observers of
- 46:17nature. We are manifestations of nature
- 46:20as well. We're a part of nature and
- 46:22anything in nature that is not growing is dying.
- 46:27A tree is either growing or it's dying.
- 46:30There's no, there's no two ways about it.
- 46:32If the tree is not growing, it is dying.
- 46:34And it's the same with humans, bro.
- 46:36So like every single day, it's good to study, it's good to
- 46:40learn something new, it's good to get new things in variety.
- 46:43It's good to grow every single day because if we're not
- 46:46growing, we're dying. And the Buddhists believe that
- 46:51the the reincarnation as a human is a super, super blessed chance
- 46:57and opportunity to actually dive into the waters of truth, you
- 47:02know, to learn about the nature of reality, to transcend
- 47:06suffering. And just the Buddhist really
- 47:10Revere this opportunity to be human, to have human
- 47:14intelligence and to study every single day, man.
- 47:16So I love that quote from the Bible.
- 47:18Let's go a. Lot of respect.
- 47:21Brother, you know speaking to the full concept of self
- 47:26mastery, right? And that internal engineering
- 47:30that you very, very much appreciate.
- 47:34So you talk about holistic success.
- 47:37So what does self mastery mean to you in a world full of noise
- 47:40and pressure? And how does somebody begin that
- 47:43journey to self mastery? Damn bro that's a great
- 47:49question. I think self mastery, there's
- 47:52there's a lot of different elements to it. 1st it's it's a
- 47:58willingness to take a look at where you are currently and
- 48:04accept that honest with honesty. I think my the biggest turning
- 48:10point in my own self mastery journey was when I decided to be
- 48:14100% honest. OK, honesty will get you super
- 48:18far. It'll get you like 80% of the
- 48:20way there. And here's how it happened for
- 48:22me. In the past, I had a really bad
- 48:25habit of telling little lies to people to get them to like me
- 48:29more. I don't know why, bro.
- 48:30I'll just confess that it was something that I did.
- 48:33And I went to UCLA and I joined a fraternity called Lambda Chi
- 48:38Alpha there. And it was like my rush, my rush
- 48:42term. And we were picking our Big
- 48:43Brothers inside the fraternity to be our mentors, right?
- 48:47And I put these five guys as 54321.
- 48:50But I told number one and #2 that they were both my number
- 48:54one. I still know their names, Bro
- 48:55Austin, Austin Kopp and Adam Hakeem.
- 48:59Those are my two guys. They are my top two guys.
- 49:03And bro, throughout the process of figuring out who is going to
- 49:06be my big bro, this lie came out and it was exposed in front of
- 49:11the whole fraternity dude and I. Had to get.
- 49:14Bro it was terrible. I felt so ashamed, I felt
- 49:18embarrassed. And it really, 'cause we do
- 49:22these, I, I did this instinctively just try trying to
- 49:26survive. I think like everything that
- 49:28somebody does, it's a survival mechanism that we feel we have
- 49:32to do but we don't have to do. But Long story short, man, I had
- 49:36to give an apology in front of the entire fraternity and I had
- 49:40to take a good look at myself, man.
- 49:42And this is life gives us opportunities to take a good
- 49:45look at ourselves and change. And after that I decided, man, I
- 49:50need to be 100% honest and not just to other people, but also
- 49:55with myself. Like how am I feeling?
- 49:58What are my genuine thoughts right now?
- 50:01And then creating space for that.
- 50:04So I think honesty is an incredible first step in self
- 50:10development and self mastery. Honesty.
- 50:13Honesty and the search for truth about ourselves, about the
- 50:18universe. I think those are two very, very
- 50:20good things. Honesty is the first step.
- 50:22Truth is the direction. You know, in, in Nigeria we have
- 50:28we have a saying that's quite popular.
- 50:29They say honesty is the best policy.
- 50:32I agree with that. I agree with that bro, because
- 50:35telling lies is like weaving a spider web that you have to
- 50:39navigate yourself and it'll eventually catch me inside of it
- 50:44if I, if I tell it, you know, it's just, it's not, it's not
- 50:49worth it bro. It's not worth it bro.
- 50:51My, my good friend Akon, he, he's from Ghana, he says
- 50:57anything that cost me my Peace of Mind is too expensive.
- 51:02Anything that's going to cost me my Peace of Mind is too
- 51:04expensive. And I agree 110%, man.
- 51:07So those are my thoughts on that bro.
- 51:11It's interesting you're actually aligning with a proverb from
- 51:15from Nigeria. So I'll say it in Yoruba and Abu
- 51:19translate it so they say T Yoruba lofo Guangdong putito
- 51:24Yoshi buria meaning are if a lie is told and it exists for 1000
- 51:32years, the truth will still eventually conquer it or be
- 51:37revealed. I agree with that 110%.
- 51:42The truth will always come up bro.
- 51:44Because the the experience of life is truth.
- 51:48We're experiencing truth everyday man.
- 51:51Like life itself is truth. And if if I have a misperception
- 51:56or a misconception about how life is, life experiences will
- 52:01show me that I am wrong. Like like there's certain
- 52:04universal principles that are just so true that even if I
- 52:09believe they're not true, my life experiences will prove them
- 52:12true to me over time. So I agree with that.
- 52:16Speaking of universal truths, right?
- 52:21Yeah, I think about how in the past people used to think the
- 52:25world was flat for overtime. Scientific discoveries proof
- 52:31that the world is spherical, so. There are some people who see
- 52:35believe. In the Flat Earth concept where
- 52:38you stand and you know, like how did that concept of changing
- 52:45from the universal Flat Earth concept to the universal
- 52:49spherical concept, like how does that evolution play for you?
- 52:58It's interesting, Adam, I, I only speak about things that I
- 53:02feel I have some level of expertise or skin in the game
- 53:05with. I've never dove in very deep
- 53:07into that conversation. Just off the bat, I'm I'm
- 53:11feeling that the earth is spherical, that that's, that's
- 53:15my take on it. But like for me, I'm, I'm only
- 53:18concerned with the things that will improve human life.
- 53:22That's that's where I put all my energy and attention.
- 53:24I love that. That's just true.
- 53:28It's just true. It's just who I am.
- 53:29But with with things like that, it's like I will support
- 53:36whatever gives you the most Peace of Mind because I care
- 53:42about the human. Like at the end of the day,
- 53:44we're all going to die. And does it matter?
- 53:47Does it matter if it's spherical or if it's flat?
- 53:49Or does it? Matter, I'm telling you, does it
- 53:52really matter? Because some people will fight
- 53:55you to define the concept of the Flat Earth.
- 54:01And I'm like, OK, do you think it's flat?
- 54:03It is very flat. No problem, let's move on.
- 54:08Just there's some Tele facts that are just like suckers of
- 54:12energy that don't need to be there.
- 54:13Like if you have time to talk about Flat Earth or spherical
- 54:17earth like do something about the water problem like purify
- 54:21water on earth. OK go, here's the order bro.
- 54:24First, purify the air. Spend your time purifying air,
- 54:28finding solutions to purify air because without good air we're
- 54:31all dead instantly like 3 minutes.
- 54:34Second, find a good way to purify water.
- 54:37If you have still have time after solving the air problem,
- 54:40solve the water problem 'cause if we don't have water, we die
- 54:43in like 5 to 7 days. Then solve the food problem
- 54:48'cause if we don't have food, good clean, healthy food, we die
- 54:51after like, I don't know, 3-4 weeks, you know?
- 54:54So that's the order that flat versus spherical earthers should
- 54:58take and allocate their energy. That's what I believe.
- 55:03I love that. I love that, you know, water.
- 55:07Food, in the words of Bruce Lee, be like water, my friend.
- 55:12Be like water my friend. Dude.
- 55:14Dude it's the basics man. People have to think like, what
- 55:18is keeping us alive at this moment?
- 55:20It's air. That's the most important thing.
- 55:23We need clean air. What's secondary water?
- 55:26What do we die without the fastest, without water?
- 55:29OK, after water, food. We need to make these three
- 55:32things healthy and good for all of humanity.
- 55:36And then education, because it's food of the mind.
- 55:40With education, bro, we can change the entire world with a
- 55:43single generation. We just need to get one single
- 55:46generation right and humanity is good bro.
- 55:51Very, very important. And that actually reminds me of
- 55:55a philosophy that I have. I said the the capacity of a
- 55:59human being is determined by 4 ease number one, education,
- 56:06number 2 enlightenment #3 experience and #4 exposure.
- 56:11I'll take that again. 4 ease the capacity of a person as an
- 56:15individual is determined by 4 ES.
- 56:18Number one is education #3 is enlightenment #3 it's exposure
- 56:22#4 is experience. So in no particular order,
- 56:25right, those are four ES. I like to take this is.
- 56:31Bro this is beautiful and I I agree.
- 56:33I'll give you some sauce there. Bro I'm I'm, I'm gonna go in.
- 56:38Bro I'm I'm going in, dude. So all right, let me let me
- 56:43organise this and let me go in on this.
- 56:44So First off, exposure, one of our mentors that we had on his
- 56:50name is Will Rivera. He is a became a millionaire at
- 56:5523. He's a great quote.
- 56:56Ma'am, You can only grow to what you've been exposed to.
- 57:03You can only grow to what you've been exposed to.
- 57:06And dude, I I think that's super true.
- 57:09So I think exposure and choosing to expose yourself to the things
- 57:14that you want. Go and see the dream, go and
- 57:17touch the dream, go and taste the dream.
- 57:19Whatever your dream is, that environment is so important.
- 57:23Put yourself in that. You might want to add
- 57:24environment to those ease bro. Environment, yeah.
- 57:28Let's go there. Let's make it 5.
- 57:30I like the. Concept of five.
- 57:32Let's go. Let's go, bro.
- 57:34So yeah, you can only grow to what you've been exposed to.
- 57:37And that education is not just school, bro.
- 57:41Like I think I I want people to not think of education as just
- 57:45school. And that's why we've been
- 57:47enlightenment, Enlightenment. Is education on steroids?
- 57:51I love it. I love it for me for me
- 57:54enlightenment. I do go by more of the Buddhist
- 57:56perspective, which is like. Let me think about how to
- 58:06structure this. It's about seeing the nature of
- 58:11reality as it is and experiencing that for ourselves,
- 58:17because it's the experience of the nature of reality that
- 58:22really frees us. OK, so there's a great example
- 58:26of like a researcher and the Buddha.
- 58:30OK, there's the researcher and the Buddha.
- 58:32They're both researching and experiencing impermanence,
- 58:36right? So the researcher will use his
- 58:39micros or telescope, microglass, whatever it's called,
- 58:42microscope, and he'll look at an atom and he'll see how it
- 58:46fluctuates so much in every single second.
- 58:49It's not the same. It's, it's impermanent.
- 58:51The, the state that it's in, it's always changing.
- 58:55But the researcher will not become enlightened just by
- 58:58looking at impermanence. You know, the Buddha, the
- 59:02purpose of the meditation part of it was actually to experience
- 59:07the reality of impermanence using his own body as the tool.
- 59:13Because when we meditate, we're able to experience, oh, here's
- 59:16this sensation right here, 0 and now it's gone.
- 59:20Here's the sensation right here, 0 and now it's gone.
- 59:23Here's the thought that I'm experiencing 0 And now it's
- 59:25gone. Thoughts are gone as soon as
- 59:28they come, and every single phenomenon in the entire
- 59:32universe is impermanent to varying degrees of impermanence.
- 59:37Speeds that the speed that at which it changes.
- 59:44So I think it's important to have the experience of
- 59:48enlightenment, not just an intellectual understanding of
- 59:51it. Because if we don't experience
- 59:53it first hand, we won't truly know, I think.
- 59:59And you know, in terms of education, a lot of people make
- 1:00:02the mistake of what I say equating education to lead to
- 1:00:07racism, but education is more than just being literate.
- 1:00:12Like for you to speak to that and don't forget our five, our
- 1:00:15five ES enlightenment, education, exposure, experience
- 1:00:21and environment. So.
- 1:00:23You've spoken to, Let me see now, enlightenment.
- 1:00:29So we're talking about education now?
- 1:00:31Yeah. Yeah, I I love that, bro.
- 1:00:34Literacy gives you access to the flow of information.
- 1:00:39That's what literacy does. Literacy is, is, is.
- 1:00:44It's a very beneficial thing to have, but it's not everything.
- 1:00:50I think there's education in terms of learning, like what to
- 1:00:56actually consume. That's a key part of education,
- 1:01:00and that's an intuitive thing. It's like as we live our lives,
- 1:01:03we know the things that are beneficial to us and harmful to
- 1:01:06us by experiencing those things, right?
- 1:01:09Like I had to drink this Coca-Cola and this beer to
- 1:01:15understand that the next day I feel like crap and boom, the
- 1:01:19output of drinking too much alcohol is feeling like crap.
- 1:01:23So that's that's experience. And experience is a key part of
- 1:01:29education. It's all interwoven, but
- 1:01:32literacy gives us access to other people's experiences.
- 1:01:40But it's that first hand experience that will convince
- 1:01:43you one way or the other of whether or not to, to take this
- 1:01:47thing or to not take this thing. The fastest way to succeed at
- 1:01:53whatever your chosen pursuit is, is to put yourself in the
- 1:01:57environment where that thing is the norm, where achieving that
- 1:02:01is the norm. So for me right now, my goal is
- 1:02:04to relearn Mandarin Chinese for the reasons that I've told you
- 1:02:08and, and more. And what did I do?
- 1:02:10I decided to come to Beijing. I'm here in the capital of
- 1:02:13China. Immersion, bro, There's
- 1:02:15immersion is the best way to learn in my opinion because it's
- 1:02:21the you're getting the most possible reps in and quality.
- 1:02:25Quantity breeds quality, quantity breeds quality.
- 1:02:29Got to get the reps in and it's all about reps, bro.
- 1:02:33I'm convinced that as long as anybody puts the requisite
- 1:02:38amount of reps in, they're going to succeed at whatever their
- 1:02:41chosen pursuit is. Absolutely. 10,000 hour rule.
- 1:02:45Malcolm Gladwell. Yes.
- 1:02:49I I really appreciate what that guy said about 10,000 hour rules
- 1:02:54and I think that's in his book Outlier.
- 1:02:58Outliers. Yeah, the Outliers.
- 1:03:01I think that guy is reading a couple of books that I really
- 1:03:04appreciate. Outliers.
- 1:03:07David and Goliath. What about the book?
- 1:03:13You know him, right? Malcolm Blaber.
- 1:03:15Yeah, I know. I've heard of him.
- 1:03:18I think T pinpoint as well, like very, very great storyteller.
- 1:03:22I think he is one of the greatest storytellers of our
- 1:03:26generation. Like yeah, to to put some
- 1:03:29respect on his name. He he's one of the greatest and
- 1:03:33the way he analysis, you know, concepts and brings them to when
- 1:03:40I say association with reality, I think, yeah, I, I rated very,
- 1:03:45very highly. He should be on the podcast one
- 1:03:48of these days. Let's get him on board.
- 1:03:52No, still, bro, I'm. I'm speaking it for you, man.
- 1:03:54Malcolm Gladwell's coming on. He's coming.
- 1:03:57On Malcolm. Gladwell, this is an open
- 1:03:59invitation to you. We appreciate your body of work,
- 1:04:01and of course, we'd love to have you on The Kingdom's podcast.
- 1:04:04Yeah, we said he here first. Let's go.
- 1:04:08And Adam all, I wanted to compliment you too, man.
- 1:04:12I think if you read The Tipping Point, which I haven't even
- 1:04:14read, I think you're an amazing maven and an amazing connector.
- 1:04:19So you're an amazing curator of knowledge and you're an amazing
- 1:04:23communicator of and, and connector too, bro.
- 1:04:25So giving you your flowers, Ben. Thank you.
- 1:04:28Thank you very much, Larry. Take the flowers.
- 1:04:31Thank. You I.
- 1:04:33Appreciate it. I appreciate it.
- 1:04:34Thank you. Very much, you know, like in
- 1:04:37this age and time, people are very, very, would I say, stingy
- 1:04:41with compliments, you know, and appreciation.
- 1:04:43And I always say something, gratitude is good attitude.
- 1:04:46When a person shares their time with you, they share their life
- 1:04:48with you because the SI unit for measuring life is time.
- 1:04:51So when you appreciate it for something, it gives you more
- 1:04:57motivation. You know, I don't see validation
- 1:04:59for the truth is we are all human beings.
- 1:05:01When you appreciate it, it gives you more energy, more
- 1:05:04motivation. And I always say, do not go to
- 1:05:06where you're tolerated, go to where you're appreciated.
- 1:05:10I love it, bro. I love it, bro.
- 1:05:12I I love it, dude. Yeah.
- 1:05:14Don't go. Don't go where you're tolerated.
- 1:05:16Go where you're appreciated and celebrated.
- 1:05:19Absolutely. And of course, you know what a
- 1:05:22great way to segue into the next segment.
- 1:05:26I want to talk about communication superpower, you
- 1:05:29know, the linguistic freedom. So you wrote the Diamond Quarter
- 1:05:34Sutra. That is freedom through
- 1:05:37linguistic mastery. So how does language shape
- 1:05:40destiny, and how can the average person use communication to
- 1:05:43elevate their lives? What do you think is the most
- 1:05:48important conversation that we have every day?
- 1:05:53The most important conversation we have every day.
- 1:05:57That has to be the conversation with yourself.
- 1:06:00Absolutely, bro, absolutely. Lao Tzu.
- 1:06:04He has a great quote. Watch your thoughts, They become
- 1:06:08your speech. Watch your speech, they become
- 1:06:11your actions. Watch your actions, they become
- 1:06:15your habits. Watch your habits, they become
- 1:06:18your character. And watch your character because
- 1:06:21it becomes your destiny. And it's so true, man.
- 1:06:26It all begins with thoughts and the way that we think and we
- 1:06:29perceive and the thoughts that we're choosing every single day,
- 1:06:33brother. So there's 3 levels of karma in
- 1:06:36Buddhism and the three levels karma is defined as intentional
- 1:06:42action, anything done with an intent behind it.
- 1:06:44And thinking is also an action. And there's 3 levels of of
- 1:06:48intentional action and the fruits of said action.
- 1:06:52The 1st is thought the fact, the second is speech, and the third
- 1:06:56is physical action. Of the three, which one do you
- 1:06:59think is the most important to control right off the bat, or to
- 1:07:03guide, or to pick? That has to be your thoughts.
- 1:07:08Like, yeah, because that's intrinsic.
- 1:07:11You're right, bro. Thoughts are the seeds of speech
- 1:07:15and physical action. Thoughts are the seeds of both
- 1:07:18speech and physical action. Let me break down manifestation
- 1:07:21real quick for people. This is how manifestation
- 1:07:23happens in the world, bro. We have a thought.
- 1:07:27It's a seed, right? It's the seed of both speech and
- 1:07:31physical action. And when a thought comes into
- 1:07:33our minds, we have two choices. We can either allow it to go, or
- 1:07:38we can choose to act upon the thought.
- 1:07:41If I choose to act upon the thought abstractly,
- 1:07:44metaphorically, I'll plant the seed in the ground, put it
- 1:07:47there, water it, and the plant will grow and the fruit will
- 1:07:50grow. In real life terms, what that
- 1:07:53means is let's say the thought is, hey, I want some pizza.
- 1:07:57Pizza sounds good right now. OK, I plant the seed, I put
- 1:08:00there, I water it. What that means is I'm calling
- 1:08:02up 7 or I'm calling up Pizza Hut.
- 1:08:04Bro, I've taken it to the speech level.
- 1:08:06Hey, I want a double cheese stuffed double sausage pizza.
- 1:08:11Boom, communicate. We went from the thought level
- 1:08:14to the speech level. And then I drive over there, I
- 1:08:17grabbed the physical pizza and I come back, I'm sitting here with
- 1:08:20this physical reality, bro, this physical pizza that began as a
- 1:08:25thought. And look around you, bro.
- 1:08:28Every single thing in your room that you're using, your glasses,
- 1:08:33the sweatshirt that you're choosing to wear right now, all
- 1:08:36of those physical realities began with a thought.
- 1:08:41It began with a decision to whether or not to act upon this
- 1:08:44thought or to let it go. Also, another quick thing I have
- 1:08:47on thoughts. I have a saying, thoughts are
- 1:08:50just like advertisements. They come up all the time, but
- 1:08:54that doesn't mean you have to buy what they're selling.
- 1:08:58And I say that to give people freedom because thoughts come
- 1:09:02and go. As soon as soon as they come up,
- 1:09:04they go. So like, if you don't attach the
- 1:09:07thought, it has no power over you.
- 1:09:10It's our active participation and decision to plant that seed
- 1:09:14that manifests it into reality. So in terms of communication and
- 1:09:22using it to master our lives, the most important conversation
- 1:09:26that we need to master every single day is the communication
- 1:09:29with ourselves. And it's the way that we
- 1:09:32communicate with ourselves that leads to how we communicate with
- 1:09:35other people as well. So mastering the internal
- 1:09:39dialogue is what will help you master the the external dialogue
- 1:09:43as well. Wow.
- 1:09:47The Bible says in the book of Proverbs chapter 23, I think
- 1:09:51verse 7 as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.
- 1:09:56Absolutely, brother. Now here's the beautiful thing.
- 1:09:59The Bible could not be more correct, dude.
- 1:10:02It's not about what we can think in our minds, it's about what we
- 1:10:06believe in our hearts. That's what it is.
- 1:10:09I could think a certain thing with just my mind, but if it's
- 1:10:13not fueled by the engine of my heart, if I don't believe it,
- 1:10:17then it's, it's not going to manifest, dude.
- 1:10:20So I, I love that bro. And I love how you can just
- 1:10:23quote the Bible instantly and know exactly what it is, bro.
- 1:10:27That, that shows a level of mastery that I, I respect a lot.
- 1:10:31Dude. Not a lot of people can actually
- 1:10:32quote the exact proverb and tell me where it's from, dude.
- 1:10:35So kudos to you man. Thank you very much.
- 1:10:39You know, it's as though you knew that I was loading up
- 1:10:42another one for you. Hebrew.
- 1:10:44Chapter Hebrew. Chapter 11 Verse one.
- 1:10:47Faith is the substance of being spoke for, the evidence of
- 1:10:50things not seen. Faith is a subpense of things
- 1:10:55hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
- 1:10:57And that actually leads to that belief of, you know, what you're
- 1:11:04hoping for. Faith is a subpense of things
- 1:11:07hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
- 1:11:09And of course, down in that Chapter 11, it went on to say
- 1:11:16Abraham had faith and he was counted unto him unto
- 1:11:19righteousness. But without faith, it's
- 1:11:23impossible to please God. It's powerful, bro.
- 1:11:29Faith is so I I come from a family of scientists.
- 1:11:35My my dad is a PhD physicist, my mom's APHD chemist, and my
- 1:11:40Chinese dad. My parents split up.
- 1:11:43He, he's got a PhD in, in history and all of them are very
- 1:11:49sceptical, right? It's a, we are very sceptical
- 1:11:52family. So growing up I had a lot of
- 1:11:54Christian friends and the faith element of Christianity was
- 1:11:58always difficult for me, brother, very difficult because
- 1:12:02it asked me to believe without any evidence.
- 1:12:05It's like you just have to have faith in it.
- 1:12:07And it's something I still struggle with.
- 1:12:10Like faith without evidence is very difficult for me.
- 1:12:14But for me, what I've, what I've come to learn is faith, or that
- 1:12:18I can have faith in is the principles that I've tested over
- 1:12:23and over again with my own life experience that hold true no
- 1:12:27matter what situation I'm in. So for now, I have faith in the
- 1:12:33universal principles that I've experienced and I have faith in
- 1:12:36the teachings that hold true no matter what amount of pressure
- 1:12:40is I'm under. But I'd love to hear your
- 1:12:42perspective on faith dude. You know, for anybody who's been
- 1:12:48following the podcast, you know, overtime, and by the way, we're
- 1:12:51recording this on November 18 and the forecast actually
- 1:12:56started November 19, 2023. So it means tomorrow we're going
- 1:13:00to be clocking. Two years in the game.
- 1:13:03And. Let's go.
- 1:13:07Let us go, you know. Thank you very much, brother.
- 1:13:09Thank you very much, brother. You know, I'm grateful two
- 1:13:12years. In other two years we were able
- 1:13:14to climb to global top 2.5%. Like I'm grateful, I'm grateful.
- 1:13:21You know, when put that into perspective, a lot of people who
- 1:13:24are at that global top 2.5% ranking actually started three
- 1:13:28years, four years, five years before me.
- 1:13:31And yeah, we're grateful. You know, while speaking about
- 1:13:34faith, even this podcast has been a brainchild of faith.
- 1:13:40You know, when I was going to start, a lot of people were
- 1:13:45like, oh, why should a finance guy start a broadcast, right?
- 1:13:50You are a finance guy. You're not a communicator.
- 1:13:53You're not, you know, a broadcaster.
- 1:13:56So sit with your finance. Do your finance people like to
- 1:14:00put people in boxes? But I always believed that, you
- 1:14:03know, I would do excellent things.
- 1:14:05I would do great things with this thing.
- 1:14:06So it was just an idea, right? I had the faith that I can, you
- 1:14:13know, tell the stories of ordinary people doing
- 1:14:15extraordinary things and go global with this thing.
- 1:14:19But I think a lot of people did not believe it until, you know,
- 1:14:23they started seeing a lot of great interviews and seeing the
- 1:14:29rankings, the chats, you know, in multiple countries.
- 1:14:32Today we're in 92 countries and you know, started with being
- 1:14:39global top 10%. I think we earlier this year
- 1:14:42around May, and I think that's when some people started
- 1:14:45believing in it and at some point became global top 5%
- 1:14:49people, top 3% people top 2.5%. You know, people start believing
- 1:14:55more that OK, this is no longer a joke, right?
- 1:14:59But when it was just an idea, people could not wrap their
- 1:15:04heads around it, right? So and that comes back to faith
- 1:15:09is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not
- 1:15:13seen. Conceive, believe, achieve.
- 1:15:19You have to conceive it, you have to believe it, then you
- 1:15:25need to strive to thrive before you can achieve it.
- 1:15:28So like you said, everything that we see around us was at
- 1:15:32first of thought. So there's a difference between
- 1:15:37thoughts and thinking. So thoughts are like the
- 1:15:42advertisement and thinking. It's processing those thoughts
- 1:15:48and you can decide to act on it or not act on it.
- 1:15:54So that's why our intentions sometimes are different from our
- 1:15:58actions because it all depends on what you act on.
- 1:16:06So for me, faith is and you know, science.
- 1:16:12I'm also a science person, of course.
- 1:16:14You know, in high school, before the secondary school, I was a
- 1:16:20science student in physics, chemistry, biology.
- 1:16:23So I understand the empirical concept.
- 1:16:26So if you cannot observe A phenomena, right, you cannot
- 1:16:33believe in that phenomenon. That's the empirical concept,
- 1:16:37right? You create laws, you create
- 1:16:40theories around what you've been able to observe, right?
- 1:16:44And it's, it's sometimes a conflict managing being a
- 1:16:49science person and being a person of faith.
- 1:16:53Science is, you know, very rigid about the observation and faith
- 1:16:59is, you know, very deep on believe in what I say blindly,
- 1:17:06right, that actualization. But you know, as you go on to
- 1:17:12study faith more, study science, what you discovered that there
- 1:17:16are actually synchronies, right? There are synchronizations
- 1:17:20between faith and science. You have neuroscience, for
- 1:17:23example, that's the study of the brain.
- 1:17:26I've had a couple of neuroscientists on the broadcast
- 1:17:30this year. We've had Doctor Ben Rain, the
- 1:17:33Stanford University neuroscientist on the broadcast.
- 1:17:36We've had Doctor Anjani Chakala, he's the neuroscientist advisor
- 1:17:42to Think he incorporated. And these guys explain the
- 1:17:47complex concept of the brain and how the brain works with the
- 1:17:51prefrontal cortex, for example. That is like the CEO of the
- 1:17:54brain and the way the neurons are wired.
- 1:18:01You know, the way the brain controls the body, it couldn't
- 1:18:04have been created by God, right? But you know, when you come back
- 1:18:07to that empirical construct, you observe phenomena, for you can
- 1:18:13trust and believe in that phenomena, right?
- 1:18:16And that's why I always say that you cannot force faith on
- 1:18:20people. The reason why I'm a Christian
- 1:18:24is not because my parents are Christians.
- 1:18:27The reason why I believe in God is not because my parents
- 1:18:29believe in God is because I've been able to observe God come
- 1:18:33through for me personally. I've been able to experience God
- 1:18:36personally. You know when you pray and God
- 1:18:38comes through for you, you've been in difficult situations and
- 1:18:42you express yourself with God and finds a way where there's no
- 1:18:47being. You know the Bible says he
- 1:18:51created streams in deserts, right?
- 1:18:54So if you're able to get on your faith journey and experience God
- 1:19:02for yourself, that would help you to achieve a good balance
- 1:19:05between science and faith because you've been able to
- 1:19:09observe on your own God doing things for you, God, you know,
- 1:19:18making things real for you. So that way you don't need any
- 1:19:25more proof to prove that God really exists.
- 1:19:31And I think that's what makes faith stronger.
- 1:19:34So that balance of faith and science is actually very, very
- 1:19:38much, you know, needed. But a person cannot achieve or
- 1:19:42unlock a higher level of faith if they've not been able to
- 1:19:47observe, you know, in their own personal journey, but coming
- 1:19:53through for them. So it comes back to our own
- 1:19:58lived experience, right? I love that.
- 1:20:07And I'm definitely open. I'm definitely open.
- 1:20:09You know, I think I'm open with everything.
- 1:20:13And one thought that I had about science real quick was science
- 1:20:17should not be used to define the boundaries.
- 1:20:20Science should be used to explore.
- 1:20:22I don't think science should be definitory.
- 1:20:25I think science should be exploratory and science that is
- 1:20:29used to set the boundaries is is not creative enough, I think.
- 1:20:37But yeah, just some thoughts on that.
- 1:20:39And it's interesting 'cause let's go back to linguistics,
- 1:20:44right? There's, there's a higher level
- 1:20:47cause the, the way that I see the human journey of self
- 1:20:50mastery is you go from potentially having, having some
- 1:20:54negative right? And then you transcend all of
- 1:20:58that. You rewire the mind.
- 1:21:00All your minds has become positive and now you're on the
- 1:21:03positive. But there's something even
- 1:21:06beyond that. And that's transcending positive
- 1:21:08and negative that, that duality. It's going beyond the yin and
- 1:21:13the Yang. And at the end of the day, it's
- 1:21:15going beyond all of language all together, because let me ask you
- 1:21:20this first. What?
- 1:21:21What came first, humans or human language?
- 1:21:24What came first It? Has to be humans.
- 1:21:29It has to be humans. Exactly.
- 1:21:32So every single word is just a sound, right?
- 1:21:38It's a sound that we've been taught to connect this sound
- 1:21:44with this image. Like when I say cup cup, you
- 1:21:47hear that sound? We both have this right?
- 1:21:52But Adam Allah, brother, if me and you are the last two humans
- 1:21:57on earth and we decided to call this a watermelon, could we?
- 1:22:03Let's call it a mug. Well, people call it a mug, but
- 1:22:07let what? What if we called it a beanie?
- 1:22:10Could we call it a beanie? Could we?
- 1:22:14It is whatever it is you call it.
- 1:22:17Exactly. So the truth of The thing is not
- 1:22:21in the name, right? So the truth of God is not in
- 1:22:25the name itself, or else it would only be God.
- 1:22:31That activation phrase, that combination of phonetics that
- 1:22:36would give it power. But Chinese people call it Shen.
- 1:22:40It's that's God as well. It's the same concept.
- 1:22:43So back to the language thing, man.
- 1:22:46It's like all words are just empty, Empty sounds that we've
- 1:22:52empowered with our belief and we've been conditioned.
- 1:22:55It's like a, it's a spell essentially in Harry Potter that
- 1:22:59creates an output of an image, an energy, and all of our
- 1:23:08emotional attachments to that word.
- 1:23:11But all of these can be rewired. So what is left after we've
- 1:23:16destroyed all of that conditioning, after we've let go
- 1:23:20of all words? Because all words are human
- 1:23:23creations. They're relative truths.
- 1:23:26They we use them to communicate, but they don't actually contain
- 1:23:30the truth. Let me give another example.
- 1:23:32Let's take the example of a flower, right?
- 1:23:36We call it a flower, but is is it truly a flower?
- 1:23:40First off, let's look at the physical phenomenon of the
- 1:23:43flower, the material aspect of it.
- 1:23:45Bro, if you look deeply in the heart of a flower, you can see
- 1:23:49that the flower is only made of non flower components.
- 1:23:54It's made of the soil, it's made of the seed, it's made of the
- 1:23:58rain, it's made of the sunshine that that nurtured it right?
- 1:24:02And if I took away the rain, could this flower be no flower?
- 1:24:11Is there rain or sorry, no rain? If there's no rain, is there a
- 1:24:15flower? Yes or no?
- 1:24:18If there's no rain, definitely there's no flower because you
- 1:24:21know, whichever way you want to process it, water is, you know,
- 1:24:26is important for that equation. So let's let's take rain as
- 1:24:31water. So it's impossible.
- 1:24:34Exactly. And then for the rain to be, we
- 1:24:38need the clouds, right? For the clouds to be, we need
- 1:24:43the whole atmosphere of Earth. For the atmosphere of Earth, we
- 1:24:48need the perfect alignment of everything in the entire
- 1:24:50universe to be exactly where it is, to have the right
- 1:24:53temperature, to have our atmosphere.
- 1:24:56If the sun was a bit closer, it'd be too hot, no atmosphere.
- 1:25:00If the sun was a bit further away, it'd be too cold, no
- 1:25:02atmosphere. That's why there's a phrase like
- 1:25:05you can see the entire universe inside of a single flower.
- 1:25:09You can see the Buddha inside of a single leaf.
- 1:25:13And that's the physical dimension, right?
- 1:25:15So all phenomena are only made of things that are not that
- 1:25:19phenomena. And that goes for flour, that
- 1:25:23goes for organic things, that goes for inorganic things.
- 1:25:27But let's take it to the linguistic level.
- 1:25:29Even flour FLOWER, it's composed of these letters, right?
- 1:25:35But if we took away the R at the end, take away the R at the end
- 1:25:40of flower, what is it? Flow.
- 1:25:44Flow. Flow flowy.
- 1:25:46What is it that that doesn't that doesn't evoke the same
- 1:25:49concept? It doesn't evoke the same image
- 1:25:53and the same feelings as flower, right?
- 1:25:58So we can see that all of all of our conditioned responses are
- 1:26:03just that. They're just conditioned
- 1:26:05responses to certain sounds that we've codified into different
- 1:26:10languages. Bro.
- 1:26:11So language is the magic of humanity.
- 1:26:15It's what we used to communicate, but it's it's not
- 1:26:18what we should anchor our identities in.
- 1:26:21That's why in my book, I say that we need to transform our
- 1:26:25relationship with language from an anchor of identity to a tool
- 1:26:30with utility. And it's been very important for
- 1:26:34me on my journey because I was born this name, Yuen Yu Fong.
- 1:26:39And then growing up, my friends and family called me Kai.
- 1:26:42Kai. That was my nickname.
- 1:26:44Then when I went to the States, they chopped off one of the
- 1:26:47Kai's and left out the tone. They just called me Kai.
- 1:26:50That's my English name. Cobra Kai.
- 1:26:53Cobra Kai, man. And at that time, bro, I
- 1:26:57remember feeling like an actor. I was like, who's Kai?
- 1:27:00Like I don't know who Kai is. So I became like a chameleon,
- 1:27:04like an actor almost bro, like method acting.
- 1:27:06This identity of Kai and these names that we have, they're one
- 1:27:12of our strongest attachments. And now I'm realising that my
- 1:27:16whole entire life I'm able to see it from a different
- 1:27:20perspective. I'm not seeing it as a victim.
- 1:27:22I'm seeing it as, hey, this helps me understand these
- 1:27:26Buddhist truths and these universal truths and an even
- 1:27:29deeper level so that I can help people at a higher level.
- 1:27:34So that's how I'm choosing to transform it.
- 1:27:37There's a great Buddhist concept, no mud, no Lotus, no
- 1:27:42mud, no Lotus. This beautiful Lotus flower can
- 1:27:46only grow out of mud. And it's the same with humans.
- 1:27:50If we're able to transform all of our challenges, transform all
- 1:27:53of our sufferings, then we're able to create beauty and truth
- 1:27:57from what we're we're able to create beauty and no truth from
- 1:28:02that. And when we know the truth, the
- 1:28:04truth will set us free. Know the truth and the truth
- 1:28:08just that Use me. Wow, you talk about language for
- 1:28:15utility and it made me remember the fact that you are a poet.
- 1:28:21I feel like you. The language for poetry is a
- 1:28:25form of utility. And I, I, I love to, when I say,
- 1:28:31get a deep dive into any one of your poems, especially one that
- 1:28:36relates to the concept of mindset.
- 1:28:42Let me, let me do you one better bro.
- 1:28:46First go, I'll, I'll, I'll sing you 2 songs.
- 1:28:49I'll sing you 2 songs because. Wow, I love music.
- 1:28:53By the way, did you know? I did not know.
- 1:28:57But no, you know. Let's go.
- 1:29:00There was you don't know. Now you know.
- 1:29:02Now I know, dude. So I think music is some poetry.
- 1:29:09That's what I believe it is. Music is poetry that is some and
- 1:29:13the first song, it is first song I wanted to sing for you is to
- 1:29:18commemorate your podcast, bro. I want to I want to sing you my
- 1:29:23way by Frank Sinatra. So let's do it, bro.
- 1:29:27Let me get some water first. Let me, let me top up my my my
- 1:29:33mug. Sounds good.
- 1:29:38Jesus Christ. Cheers bro, I'm topping up mine
- 1:29:42too. Don't copy me, don't copy me.
- 1:29:46I'm not your role model. You know it's a Nigerian joke by
- 1:29:53the way, you see, you not copy me.
- 1:29:55I am not your role model. I am not your what?
- 1:29:59I am not your role model. Role model.
- 1:30:02Got it. I'm not.
- 1:30:03Your role model? Yeah.
- 1:30:06How about don't copy me make your own Jol of rice?
- 1:30:10Whoa, you know about Jolof Rice, right?
- 1:30:13Wow. That, that, that's.
- 1:30:16Great Jolof rice is Jolof rice is our national meal.
- 1:30:21That's that's, that's, that's the most famous thing from
- 1:30:23Nigeria. Basically, you know.
- 1:30:26Yeah, I have done that. I had a a friend who's Ghanaian
- 1:30:29and a Co worker who's Nigerian and they always argued about who
- 1:30:33had the better Jolf Rice man. Oh, not yeah, That's that's
- 1:30:38that's the. Rivalry between Nigeria and
- 1:30:39Ghana, but Jolof. We call it the Jolof War, yeah.
- 1:30:46Dude, it's so funny, dude. Yeah, that's funny, right?
- 1:30:49We we call it the Jolof War like always.
- 1:30:51Arguing about who has the better Jolof Rice.
- 1:30:55I love it. It's it's a nice playful banter.
- 1:30:58It's it's crazy, right? Who's got the better to law
- 1:31:01Price but. Do you know who even?
- 1:31:05Has the best to law prices. It's not Nigerite, it's not
- 1:31:08Ghana, that's The funny thing. It's actually Senegal.
- 1:31:12Senegal, OK. Yeah, of course that is where
- 1:31:19that is where to law price basically originated from or
- 1:31:23because Nigeria is a very big country, 220 million plus
- 1:31:27people. So they just snatched the the
- 1:31:31meal and made it their own. Got it, Got it.
- 1:31:43I'm refilling my pop. You mean your watermelon?
- 1:31:48Yeah, my watermelon. There you go.
- 1:32:03Let's go. Oh, I think we have about 30
- 1:32:07minutes left. Cheers bro.
- 1:32:09Yeah. Whoa.
- 1:32:11Cheers, man. Cheers.
- 1:32:12Cheers. Wow.
- 1:32:14Hey, so now I'm in a good place to listen to a song.
- 1:32:17All right, let's do it. No2 Song.
- 1:32:22Alright, I haven't done this for a while, give my best shot and
- 1:32:29now the end is near. And so I'll face the final
- 1:32:39curtain, my friend. I'll say it clear, I'll stay in
- 1:32:48my case, of which I'm certain I've lived the life that's for.
- 1:33:00I've travelled each and every highway.
- 1:33:07And more. Much more.
- 1:33:10Than this you did it your way. My guy.
- 1:33:20Woo, love and respect. Very, very, very much
- 1:33:27appreciated brother. Wow, you did it your way.
- 1:33:31OK, OK, OK. Respect to you man.
- 1:33:37A top 2.5% podcast and going going even higher, 1% top 0.1%.
- 1:33:44That ain't easy man, so celebrate.
- 1:33:46That is a goal. That is a goal, brother.
- 1:33:50Whoa now. Now I'm curious.
- 1:33:51What is the? What is the next one?
- 1:33:53What is the next? 1.
- 1:33:55The next one, you asked about one of my poems, so I will
- 1:33:59actually share with you one of my songs that I wrote.
- 1:34:04You know what? I have my guitar.
- 1:34:05I'll play it for you. Let's go, Let us go.
- 1:34:17Actually this is my upstairs neighbour guitar, so shout out
- 1:34:20to Sue Hung upstairs. Shout out to Sue Warren, God
- 1:34:25bless. Yes.
- 1:34:27Can you hear that? I love the guitar.
- 1:34:34I love the guitar that is acoustic.
- 1:34:36Hold on. Let me tune this thing.
- 1:35:32Can you hear that? All right, Cool.
- 1:35:36This song is called the song is. It was actually inspired by the
- 1:35:41the flower example that I shared with you and I call it the
- 1:35:46flower of you the. Flower of you, Yeah, sounds
- 1:35:51amazing. Let's go.
- 1:36:13seem like just a flower. Yeah, but I see the sun.
- 1:36:19I see the moon. It is their light within her
- 1:36:24bloom. A flower may seem like just a
- 1:36:31flower. Yeah, but I see the sun.
- 1:36:36I see the bees. It is their kiss that makes them
- 1:36:41breathe. but I see.
- 1:37:53I haven't played this for a while bro, I can't remember what
- 1:37:55it is. Let me think.
- 1:38:00Sorry man. I see the flower.
- 1:38:05But the, the message is, you know, we're, we're all like that
- 1:38:11flower with there's so much more to us than just our name than to
- 1:38:17anything that is contained within the name.
- 1:38:20So the, the lyrics, let me try to remember it.
- 1:38:22Let me put this guitar down 1st. OK, I had actually kind of
- 1:38:36paused my musical journey for a while because the Buddha said
- 1:38:41the Buddha advised practitioners that because if there's still
- 1:38:48desire within someone, music will fan the flames of that
- 1:38:53desire. So he advised practitioners to
- 1:38:56avoid a certain sensual stimuli, to focus more on the path.
- 1:39:03But I also think that music can be a vehicle of truth and that's
- 1:39:08that's my intention for it. So the lyrics of this go a
- 1:39:14flower may seem like just a flower, but I see this.
- 1:39:19Hold on, let me think. But I see the sun.
- 1:39:25I see the moon. It is their light within her
- 1:39:30bloom, so you can see the light of the sun and the moon in the
- 1:39:35blooming of the flower, in the flower itself, just like the
- 1:39:39rain without the sun, there is no flower, man.
- 1:39:42It's just without that nourishment from the sun, there
- 1:39:45is no flower. And it's the same with us, man.
- 1:39:49Everybody's just like this flower without this water, this
- 1:39:53tea, like without the liquids that we consume every day.
- 1:39:57It just goes to show that we are not islands.
- 1:40:00And that we have to be really careful about what we consume,
- 1:40:04what we allow in, because all of it is actually going in and it
- 1:40:09will create a corresponding output.
- 1:40:11And it's also the song. My hope is to show people that
- 1:40:14we are so much more than anything that we can be called.
- 1:40:18And to know that you are beyond what language can express.
- 1:40:23And it's beautiful. Beautiful, absolutely beautiful.
- 1:40:28And of course, Speaking of languages, you are a global
- 1:40:31citizen. You speak English?
- 1:40:34Chinese. I guess that's Mandarin,
- 1:40:37Indonesian, Japanese, Korean. Just a tiny bit.
- 1:40:42Just a tiny. Bit you know, very levels.
- 1:40:46Keyword very levels. So how deep operating across
- 1:40:50cultures and languages change the way you see humanity and
- 1:40:54leadership? Wow, man.
- 1:41:00Every language carries with it its own unique energy and its
- 1:41:04own unique concepts. And I think part of part of the
- 1:41:09longevity of China, part of the reason why it's lasted for so
- 1:41:12long, is because within the language itself and in the
- 1:41:16culture itself. Like if I if I were to see an
- 1:41:19older gentleman on the street I could call him uncle.
- 1:41:23Like we do that. Like we literally just say uncle
- 1:41:25to any people dude on the street.
- 1:41:27Is. That Shifu.
- 1:41:28It's not Shifu. Is that shifu?
- 1:41:33Yeah, shushu, Shushu. And there's AI and there's gugu
- 1:41:38Mei Mei, these concepts of like you, you can call anybody a Big
- 1:41:42Brother, anybody a little sister, anybody an auntie,
- 1:41:45anybody an uncle. And it's through that lens, I
- 1:41:48think that the language determines the energy and the
- 1:41:54longevity of the culture. I kind of feel.
- 1:41:57And like with Japanese, there's some incredibly beautiful
- 1:42:01concepts that guide how they live.
- 1:42:03There's a concept called Kai Zen.
- 1:42:05Have you heard of it? Yeah, I've heard of Kai Zen.
- 1:42:09I've heard of our that's that's one.
- 1:42:12It's a haiku. Yeah, Hikigai, Hikigai origami.
- 1:42:18That's the art with your papers. But then haiku haiku, the poem
- 1:42:23the. Haiku is.
- 1:42:24The poem. The 17 syllables.
- 1:42:27Yep, I think so. Faraguchi.
- 1:42:33What's Faraguchi again? I'm not sure about that.
- 1:42:37Yeah, yeah. Just like different concepts.
- 1:42:39But like, the samurai culture is something that like really,
- 1:42:44really would, I say is amazing to me.
- 1:42:49The samurai culture Death before the sauna.
- 1:42:54It's like. Man, these people view life from
- 1:42:57a different land. They do and it's it's very
- 1:43:01powerful to learn from every single culture, from every
- 1:43:05single country with from every single language.
- 1:43:07I think there's merit and there's beauty and there's truth
- 1:43:11and all of it. The concept of Kai Zen is the
- 1:43:15art of continuous improvement. That's what it means.
- 1:43:18It's essentially the 1% better. 1% better every day.
- 1:43:22I love it. I think that's what I do, you
- 1:43:25know, just 1% every day, hey. I'm more interested.
- 1:43:29I think you're doing at least 2.5% every day.
- 1:43:36Thank you very much brother. That's why we're global top 2.5%
- 1:43:40right now. Let's go. 2.5% every day.
- 1:43:45Whoa, brother, you know, let's talk about community leadership.
- 1:43:49And you are at the heart of building the world's number one
- 1:43:54entrepreneurship community in the world.
- 1:43:57That is number one. I've, I've been privileged to
- 1:44:00have people that are #1 in the world awarded you on this
- 1:44:04broadcast. For example, I've had Brett
- 1:44:06King, right? Brett King is the founder of the
- 1:44:10world's first diesel bank, right?
- 1:44:14More than so before we had the likes of Beverly Monzo, you
- 1:44:18know, we had Morgan and Breaking is the host of the world's
- 1:44:24number one ranked fintech podcast, which is Breaking
- 1:44:27banks. We've had guys from Money 2020,
- 1:44:32for example, Zach Pettit. Money 2020 is the world's
- 1:44:37largest fintech conference. So number one in the world is
- 1:44:43not a joke. In order to be the best, you
- 1:44:46have to beat the best and the best is blessed.
- 1:44:50So you need that number one school of entrepreneurship in
- 1:44:56the world, right? What does it take to build
- 1:44:59trust? The longing momentum at scale
- 1:45:02for over 5000 entrepreneurs. Yeah, we're, we're, I think
- 1:45:09we're at like 6700 now brother and and growing.
- 1:45:13Yeah, that's what I said. Over over 5K, you know, that's
- 1:45:16the milestone that I decided to, to, to eat the milestone.
- 1:45:20No, I, I appreciate it, man. I appreciate it.
- 1:45:23I, I say it because I want to. I want to really celebrate my
- 1:45:26team. I want to celebrate the school
- 1:45:29of Hard Knocks guys, Jack, James and Josh.
- 1:45:32They've put incredible work to build this.
- 1:45:35Amazing, amazing, amazing individuals.
- 1:45:37Amazing. Shout out to them.
- 1:45:39Shout out to them and for those who don't know that the School
- 1:45:42of Mentors is the entrepreneurial community that
- 1:45:46they founded based off of the School of Hard Knocks and I
- 1:45:51think 1. Yeah, and they have their own
- 1:45:53podcast as well. They have their own.
- 1:45:55Podcast as well. Like they do.
- 1:45:56Their podcast is so great that I have recommended it on my own
- 1:45:59platform. Like, I appreciate their work,
- 1:46:01you know, Shout out to Jack James.
- 1:46:03Yeah, we should have James Doc on the podcast as well.
- 1:46:06Yeah, I think I. I, I'm going to reach out to
- 1:46:08James like I really appreciate. You know, his philosophies and
- 1:46:12what he's building, you know, big shout out to him.
- 1:46:16Up next, James, this is the second person we have
- 1:46:19manifested. Right.
- 1:46:20James, see you soon on the podcast.
- 1:46:23Let's go, let's go, bro. Yeah, bro.
- 1:46:26I would definitely include Jack and Josh too.
- 1:46:28The Co founders are incredibly sharp guys.
- 1:46:30Yeah. Bro bro bro Yeah.
- 1:46:34Include Open invitation. JJJ, Jack.
- 1:46:38JJ. James, we won the three JS on
- 1:46:41this podcast. See you guys soon.
- 1:46:45See you guys soon. The interesting thing is, you
- 1:46:48know, anytime you hear me quote the Bible, I'm always.
- 1:46:51Quoting in King James Version because that was what I grew up
- 1:46:55region. That's cool, man.
- 1:46:57Yeah, I so yeah, I won. Huge shout out to the guys, the
- 1:47:06energy of the school of Hard Knocks and the people that they
- 1:47:09tend to attract. I want to just say like are some
- 1:47:12of the kindest, most positive, most empowered, most, most
- 1:47:16growth oriented people in the world.
- 1:47:19And it's really my pleasure to to head that kind of community
- 1:47:23with those kinds of people. Now in terms of leadership, I
- 1:47:26think what's beautiful is it's, it's about creating space for
- 1:47:33people. I think of course we have the,
- 1:47:36the weekly calls with millionaire and billionaire
- 1:47:39mentors. We got billionaire day coming up
- 1:47:41like in an hour and 15 minutes, we got 3 billionaires coming on.
- 1:47:45And the level of mentorship that people get access to inside the
- 1:47:49school of mentors for the price point that we offered at is
- 1:47:53absolutely unparalleled, bro. It's unparalleled.
- 1:47:57And, and dude, we're building, we're building 1 of the greatest
- 1:48:02curriculums for entrepreneurs at every phase of the
- 1:48:05entrepreneurial journey. I'm heading that project.
- 1:48:08I'm incredibly proud of it. And basically the mentorship
- 1:48:12calls with the millionaires and billionaires, those live calls
- 1:48:15are what you want. But the self development
- 1:48:18contained within the curriculum is what you need to succeed and
- 1:48:22to continue putting in the hard work to actually make it, to
- 1:48:26make it work and to be successful.
- 1:48:29But all of that aside, aside from those incredible resources,
- 1:48:33I think the key to our success has been the culture that we've
- 1:48:38created inside of the community. We've created a go giving
- 1:48:42culture. This is taken from the book The
- 1:48:44Go Giver by the great John David Mann, and it switches up that
- 1:48:49classic go getter paradigm with the go giver paradigm.
- 1:48:53So let's take the example of a pie, right?
- 1:48:57Everybody looks at this pie and the go getter is like, hey, how
- 1:49:00can I go and get my slice of that pie?
- 1:49:02It's good to be a go getter. You know, in life, sometimes you
- 1:49:05got to be a go getter. But the go giver thinks, hey,
- 1:49:08how can I make this pie even bigger for everybody else?
- 1:49:12How can I contribute more value to this pie?
- 1:49:15And the go giver is someone that always leads with value 1st.
- 1:49:19And we've created a beautiful culture of go giving inside the
- 1:49:23community where we lead. And we give as much as we can so
- 1:49:27that everybody can level up as much as they can as quickly as
- 1:49:30possible. And we've built that culture.
- 1:49:33And thankfully, we have amazing members who like yourself, are
- 1:49:37giving opportunities, are giving platforms, are sharing insights,
- 1:49:41takeaways, knowledge. And the momentum is just
- 1:49:44building and building and building and building.
- 1:49:47And I think another amazing book to draw upon for creating
- 1:49:52community is called The Culture Code.
- 1:49:54The Culture Code, I think his name is Daniel Coyle.
- 1:49:57Yeah, amazing guy. And what Daniel says that it's
- 1:50:01really important to create what is called a vulnerability loop.
- 1:50:05OK, what is a vulnerability loop?
- 1:50:08It's a loop created by the first two people.
- 1:50:11There's a leader that starts the loop that opens up the realm of
- 1:50:15vulnerability by sharing maybe their own doubts, their own
- 1:50:19securities, their own challenges.
- 1:50:21And then the the second person is also key in continuing that
- 1:50:25loop. First they accept and then they
- 1:50:27start sharing their own vulnerabilities as well.
- 1:50:30And with those first two leaders, you've created what is
- 1:50:33called a vulnerability loop. A loop and a space where people
- 1:50:37feel safe enough to drop their guard, where they can be
- 1:50:41themselves, where they can breathe inside the space where
- 1:50:44they feel safe enough to contribute from their own unique
- 1:50:48experiences. And that is the online community
- 1:50:51that we built. And it's something that I'm
- 1:50:53super proud of. And for me, one of my key core
- 1:50:56values is include inclusivity, inclusion and compassion and
- 1:51:01creating space and also listening.
- 1:51:04That's a key component of it. Learning to listen with the
- 1:51:08intention. Exactly.
- 1:51:10Brother and Zen master take not Han.
- 1:51:14I go to him a lot. He's one of my spiritual
- 1:51:16fathers. He's the founder of Plum Plum
- 1:51:19Village, a monastery in France, and he's basically the godfather
- 1:51:25of mindfulness. He brought mindfulness in
- 1:51:27Buddhism to the West. And one of his quotes that is
- 1:51:30like the foundation of my life is understanding is the
- 1:51:36foundation of love. In fact, it is Love's other
- 1:51:41name, understanding. And that's a core principle that
- 1:51:46I operate with and that I teach my team to operate with, which
- 1:51:50is come with the intention to understand, come and understand
- 1:51:54the client, Come and understand our members.
- 1:51:56What are their pain points? What do they actually need?
- 1:51:59And then listen and communicate in such a way that makes them
- 1:52:03feel heard, that makes them feel understood.
- 1:52:06And then also deliver the tactical thing that can actually
- 1:52:09help them. If you can do that, bro, you've
- 1:52:11covered the mindset, the skill set and the tool set and you're
- 1:52:14good. Wow.
- 1:52:16You know, you talk about love, right?
- 1:52:20And about what love is about. It's interesting that the Bible
- 1:52:28actually aligns with that philosophy.
- 1:52:31First Corinthians chapter 14 verse 4 says love suffers long
- 1:52:37and is kind. Love does not envy.
- 1:52:40Love does not parade itself. It's not puffed up, does not
- 1:52:45behave really, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no
- 1:52:49evil, does not rejoice in iniquity or rejoices in the
- 1:52:54truth, hears all things, believes all things, hopes all
- 1:52:58things, and hears all things. That's beautiful.
- 1:53:04But love is. That's beautiful and the by bro,
- 1:53:08as as a Buddhist practitioner, I literally could not agree with
- 1:53:12the Bible more right now like that is that is such a beautiful
- 1:53:18essence that it's that it's communicating and it's it's
- 1:53:22very, very true. It's very, very true.
- 1:53:27Wow, you know, I love the fact that you you aligned with my
- 1:53:31philosophy of mindset skill sets.
- 1:53:33Also, you know, and your career has actually spanned teaching,
- 1:53:37acting, teacher, being songwriting, marketing research,
- 1:53:40leadership. For what skill would you say has
- 1:53:44given you the greatest return on investment and why?
- 1:53:49It's communication, man. That's.
- 1:53:50I was expecting that I was that as well.
- 1:53:54You don't disappoint me. Bro, it it is, it is what it is
- 1:54:00and it's why I'm here and it's why you're here.
- 1:54:03And let's, let's go back to Malcolm Gladwell, the tipping
- 1:54:07point, right? There's people who are mavens
- 1:54:10and people who are connectors and they're salesman, the maven
- 1:54:13and the connector archetypes. The maven is someone who is an
- 1:54:16amazing curator of knowledge and can communicate that and can
- 1:54:21teach that, and the connector connects people together.
- 1:54:25Now, I think if you have a very high level of skill and
- 1:54:28communication, all of these things that you pick up, you're
- 1:54:32able to share with other people at a very high level in order
- 1:54:37that they can understand it as easily as possible.
- 1:54:40For me, I optimise my communication for
- 1:54:45understandability. I want to make it as easy as
- 1:54:48possible to understand. I think that's the sign of true
- 1:54:50mastery. It's not.
- 1:54:52Hey, how many SAT words can I pull out of my, my, you know, to
- 1:54:56impress somebody? No, because my, my intention is
- 1:55:00not to impress you. My intention is to communicate
- 1:55:05things that are truly valuable, that can actually help you move
- 1:55:08forward in your own life's journey.
- 1:55:11And in order to reach the maximum amount, amount of
- 1:55:13people, communicating with simplicity is the best way to do
- 1:55:17that. So the number one ROI thing for
- 1:55:21me is definitely communication. And it goes beyond, of course,
- 1:55:26communicating with others. Like we go back to the
- 1:55:28importance, what is the most important conversation we're all
- 1:55:31having every single day? It's the one with ourselves.
- 1:55:35And if we can learn to communicate with ourselves, with
- 1:55:38love, with patience, with peace, with compassion, then we can
- 1:55:43learn to do that for the others, for, for the world and for for
- 1:55:47others in the world. And Adam Olem, everybody, a lot
- 1:55:52of people are focusing on collective change, right?
- 1:55:54Let's get collective change. But dude, collective change is
- 1:55:58just the aggregate of individual change on a big scale.
- 1:56:03So dude, I really believe these kinds of conversations that
- 1:56:07we're having right here, this kind of education, this kind of
- 1:56:11sharing, this is the most important thing that we can be
- 1:56:14doing to help move humanity in a better direction.
- 1:56:17It's sharing valuable consciousness, bro.
- 1:56:20So I think communication is absolutely key.
- 1:56:23And it's also important for personal relationships as well.
- 1:56:28Like there can be so much love. Like, but if I'm unable to
- 1:56:33express my love, then the other person won't feel my love, you
- 1:56:38know? And I think mastering
- 1:56:40communication allows your love to be felt at the maximum
- 1:56:45impact, which I think is a worthy motivation for pursuing
- 1:56:50and mastering the art of communication.
- 1:56:54Wow, so scaling people, not just platforms, actually involves
- 1:57:00communication? So you are responsible for
- 1:57:04hiring, for training, for onboarding, you know, for the
- 1:57:07curriculum, for customer success and communication.
- 1:57:11So what systems or frameworks do you use to keep the community
- 1:57:15engaged, aligned and to continue to grow?
- 1:57:22Yeah, there's, there's two ways to help people grow that I
- 1:57:28focused on. I I used to be a teacher in
- 1:57:30China. I taught English in a city
- 1:57:33called Yuyang in the Hunan province.
- 1:57:35It's a Tier 3 city, relatively smaller, still like a million
- 1:57:39people. So that's a that's a small city
- 1:57:41in China. And I learned from from teaching
- 1:57:44kids aged 4 to 15 that the power of praise and the power of
- 1:57:50challenge cannot be understated. And there's a saying that goes,
- 1:57:55the feminine grows through praise and the masculine grows
- 1:57:59through challenge. The feminine grows through
- 1:58:02praise and the masculine grows through challenge.
- 1:58:04So for me, praise is a huge key aspect of me helping people
- 1:58:10grow, as is challenge. So anytime anyone does something
- 1:58:14that I know to be good for themselves, for their own
- 1:58:18personal development, like showing up to a call, doing an
- 1:58:21exercise, bro, I, I heap abundant praise on that person
- 1:58:26because it takes a lot of courage to reach that point.
- 1:58:28You know, it takes a lot of momentum and I never, I didn't
- 1:58:32get as much praise as I would have benefited from potentially.
- 1:58:36So I know that like, hey, that's something that I wish I would
- 1:58:39have had. So I try to give as much praise
- 1:58:42as I can and I do it specifically.
- 1:58:45Like I, I do my best to connect. It's not a general praise.
- 1:58:48It's like, hey, like I really want to celebrate your amazing
- 1:58:51communication skills. I'll praise something specific
- 1:58:55and praise them in public. You know, if there's a conflict,
- 1:58:59address it privately. If there's something you're
- 1:59:02dissatisfied with, train that privately, privately, sorry.
- 1:59:07Anytime like you see potential for improvement in somebody like
- 1:59:12never have that conversation publicly.
- 1:59:14Have it privately as as often as you can and praise publicly.
- 1:59:19And then issuing challenges, brother, is a great way to help
- 1:59:23people grow as well. It's not a challenge in that I
- 1:59:26want conflict. No, it's a challenge in that I
- 1:59:28believe in your potential and let's set a time frame for you
- 1:59:31to achieve this. So like a challenge might be
- 1:59:35brother, like I challenge you to breakthrough the top 1% in the
- 1:59:39next three months, you know? That's a goal.
- 1:59:43And and boom, it becomes a goal, right?
- 1:59:46So the power of praise and the power of challenge, those, those
- 1:59:49are essential and making people feel appreciated for the work
- 1:59:54that they do, man, for everything that they contribute.
- 1:59:57It's, it's, it's key. It's people want to be people
- 2:00:00want to feel seen, they want to feel heard and they want to feel
- 2:00:04appreciated. So anytime someone contributes
- 2:00:08to the community, I always do my best.
- 2:00:10I train my team to, you know, appreciate to accept and to
- 2:00:17connect on that thing and to encourage and to praise and to
- 2:00:21challenge. And those are.
- 2:00:23Kind of the tools that I use to help people in their personal
- 2:00:27development, to help the community continue growing
- 2:00:30because the community is just a bunch of people coming together.
- 2:00:34So if I focus on the people inside the community, then I'm
- 2:00:37going to help the community itself.
- 2:00:42Wow, so Speaking of mindset, the Buddha within, we founded
- 2:00:48billions of Buddhas. What does it really mean?
- 2:00:52Thank you for asking, brother. So the dream of billions of
- 2:00:55Buddhas. Buddhism believes that everybody
- 2:00:58has their own inner Buddha. Every human being, every, all
- 2:01:02life has an inner Buddha. Now it's not trying to convert
- 2:01:07people to Buddhism, it's helping them tap into their own inner
- 2:01:11Buddha, that centre of peace within them, that peaceful
- 2:01:16stillness, that joyfulness. And I just see so much in the
- 2:01:19world. There's so much chaos and the
- 2:01:21chaos is growing and the world is accelerating and people are
- 2:01:24stressed out and depressed and anxious.
- 2:01:27And I know that I was like that too.
- 2:01:30And now that I found a system for peace, I want to help share
- 2:01:33that system of inner peace with everybody so that they can enjoy
- 2:01:37that peace, so that they can live life at their own pace.
- 2:01:40And even if life is moving fast, they have an eye of the storm
- 2:01:45that they can abide from and operate from.
- 2:01:48Because that's the truth. Like once, once you see the
- 2:01:52truth of how reality is and how our universe is designed, peace
- 2:01:58just washes over you. That's been my own personal
- 2:02:00experience. So for me, it's my wish for
- 2:02:03peace for the world. Put into 3 words billions of
- 2:02:08Buddhas and I also think, hey man, 1 Buddha did so much good
- 2:02:13one Jesus did so much good. What if we had billions of
- 2:02:17Buddhas? What if what if we had billions
- 2:02:19of Jesus's man And the what why I say that is I, I don't think
- 2:02:24it's possible to become Jesus in, in Christianity.
- 2:02:27I think that's sacrilege. There's Christ consciousness
- 2:02:30that we can embody. I've done my own research into
- 2:02:32Christianity and I definitely believe in that.
- 2:02:36But in Buddhism, the belief is that the, the, it is a
- 2:02:42possibility within human potential to actually become a
- 2:02:46Buddha like that is within human potential.
- 2:02:48I, I can't become Jesus because that'd be sacrilegious, but I
- 2:02:52can bring my level of self development and self mastery to
- 2:02:57the level of a Buddha. And I am fascinated by that
- 2:03:00potential man. And I think that's what we need.
- 2:03:04And I just think that's what is good for the world.
- 2:03:07So that's the direction that I'm, I've dedicated my life to.
- 2:03:11Did you want to know an interesting parallel to what
- 2:03:14you're saying about Buddhism and Christianity?
- 2:03:18So it's pretty much the same thing.
- 2:03:21In Christianity, the word Christian actually means Christ
- 2:03:24to like. That is you should be Christ
- 2:03:28like like Christ. So that's also the intention.
- 2:03:32If you can have multiple billions of Christ unlike
- 2:03:36individuals on earth, it would be a better place.
- 2:03:40It'd be heaven on earth. And in in many ways it already
- 2:03:45is, depending on your perspective.
- 2:03:47Like right now, brother, sharing this beautiful conversation with
- 2:03:51you. I think we're already in heaven
- 2:03:53on earth. I think we're already in
- 2:03:54Nirvana. We're already in enlightenment.
- 2:03:57In that experience. It's because I'm grateful.
- 2:03:59You know, as you said, time is life.
- 2:04:02Our life is just composed of time and I appreciate you
- 2:04:05sharing your time and your life with me man, so thank you.
- 2:04:09Absolutely, you're welcome and you know when you think about
- 2:04:11it, I said something if you don't understand something, you
- 2:04:14stand under it and study to show myself a Workman that need not
- 2:04:20be ashamed, quietly divided the word of truth.
- 2:04:23So the problem with a lot of Christians is they are not even
- 2:04:27studied treating even more Christianities.
- 2:04:30Many Christians don't even know that the meaning of the word
- 2:04:33Christian means Christ. Like when the purpose of
- 2:04:38something is unknown, abuse is inevitable.
- 2:04:43So you need to understand what you're practising. 100%, bro, I
- 2:04:51think there's immense beauty in, in the Christian path, There's
- 2:04:55immense beauty in the Buddhist path.
- 2:04:57And anyone that really dives into the truth of their
- 2:05:00tradition will find truth. They'll find peace, they'll find
- 2:05:04love within and without and above and below.
- 2:05:08And I, I love what you said about understanding, bro, that
- 2:05:11if you don't understand, you're, you're standing beneath, you're
- 2:05:13standing under it. It makes me think because
- 2:05:17there's there's two paths for Buddhist practitioners, right?
- 2:05:20You can go the monastic path and become a monk or a nun, or you
- 2:05:25can go the lay lay path become just a secular practitioner.
- 2:05:30And the Buddha said for the secular practitioner, there's
- 2:05:33only one thing to focus on and that is all-encompassing
- 2:05:38understanding. If you live with the intention
- 2:05:41to understand all, you will attain enlightenment as a
- 2:05:44secular practitioner. And brother, like if, if, if we
- 2:05:49come into the conversation with our own ideas set, then there's
- 2:05:53no point in having the conversation.
- 2:05:55And if if we both come in with open minds and a willingness to
- 2:06:00change and a willingness to understand, which is the
- 2:06:03willingness to love, then we're already there then because there
- 2:06:07is no like path to love. Love itself is the path.
- 2:06:13There is no way to peace. Peace itself is the path, and
- 2:06:17it's in every decision that we're choosing right now.
- 2:06:20So choose. Choose it, don't chase it.
- 2:06:24Absolutely and you know, and that's what a book mindset is
- 2:06:27about, right, Deciding to learn, you know, so, so for me, I love
- 2:06:37to learn. I love the pathway of being a
- 2:06:43student for life. The day, you know, there's a
- 2:06:46proverb where I come from, it says the day we die is the day
- 2:06:51we stop learning. Oh, that's good, man.
- 2:06:56The day we die. The day we stop learning.
- 2:06:59I agree. And of course, you know,
- 2:07:02Speaking of learning, you went from the school of Hard Knocks
- 2:07:05to the school of mentors, right? Literally.
- 2:07:08So what was the hardest season of your life and how did it
- 2:07:11shape the person that you are today?
- 2:07:16Oh man, man, we're getting deep, OK.
- 2:07:21The hardest season of my life was was during COVID for sure.
- 2:07:25And. Wuhan.
- 2:07:29Wuhan So a lot of people don't know this.
- 2:07:33I've only shared this with a few people, but I'll, I'll share it
- 2:07:35here publicly for like kind of the first time on your podcast,
- 2:07:39man. I actually went to, I actually
- 2:07:43went to gaol for five days and it was, it was an accident.
- 2:07:49I had done something with a good intent, but I did it under the
- 2:07:53influence of marijuana and the, the outcome turned out bad.
- 2:07:57So what, what happened was it was like the middle of COVID.
- 2:08:02I just had a fight with my mom and I went out with my buddy
- 2:08:05Chris to go and, and smoke some marijuana to try to relax a bit
- 2:08:09and chill. And this was the time where I
- 2:08:12had just seen a lot of like that Jeffrey Epstein stuff and like
- 2:08:17child abuse and like, like, I had just dug into the child
- 2:08:21trafficking issue globally. And it's, it's really
- 2:08:24terrifying. It's really terrible.
- 2:08:26And I was chilling with my friend at the park and we were
- 2:08:30just meditating there, bro. Like, he drove his car.
- 2:08:33He took us with his car. And then I saw this, this mother
- 2:08:38and her child walking into the park, man.
- 2:08:40And the child was shirtless and I saw her take the child and
- 2:08:45pose the child against the tree and start taking pictures of the
- 2:08:48kid. And it just didn't look right to
- 2:08:50me. Dude.
- 2:08:51I don't know. Just this woman taking pictures
- 2:08:53of a of a shirtless kid at the park.
- 2:08:56I was like, what is going on? And my mind was kind of primed
- 2:08:59with all that Epstein stuff, dude.
- 2:09:01So I told my buddy, I'm like, dude, that doesn't look right.
- 2:09:03I'm going to go check that out, make sure that kids.
- 2:09:05OK. So I go over and I ask, hey,
- 2:09:09excuse me, is this your child? And the mother says yes, it is.
- 2:09:13But she shook her head no at me when she said it.
- 2:09:15So she said yes, it is. And I was kind of confused.
- 2:09:19So I looked at the kid. I'm like, excuse me?
- 2:09:21Like, do you need any help? And I thought I saw him give me
- 2:09:25a little bit of a nod. So I'm like, OK, like, I don't
- 2:09:28know what's going on here. Let me call the police.
- 2:09:32I called the police, bro, 911. I called it like, hey, I don't
- 2:09:36know what the situation is. Like there's a mom here with a
- 2:09:39kid, I think. But like, it looks potentially
- 2:09:42be some child abuse. Can you guys come and check it
- 2:09:44out? And it might, it might have been
- 2:09:48like, you know, I was under the influence of marijuana.
- 2:09:51Maybe I didn't sound completely sober.
- 2:09:54But nobody came. They didn't send anybody.
- 2:09:56I don't think they believed me. And I was kind of, I talked to
- 2:10:00the police for like 6 to 9 minutes, bro.
- 2:10:02It's on their record. And by this point, the mother
- 2:10:08and the child were leaving the park.
- 2:10:09And I was really worried for the kid.
- 2:10:12And I was kind of starting to panic.
- 2:10:13I'm like, what is going on? Like, is this child abuse?
- 2:10:15Like what is happening? Am I going to just let this
- 2:10:17happen in front of my eyes? And I, I decided to spur the
- 2:10:21moment. Instinct just kind of took over.
- 2:10:23And I ran over there and I tried to get the kid away from her
- 2:10:26just to figure out the situation.
- 2:10:28But in the States, if you move anyone's kid from point A to
- 2:10:33point B without their express permission, that's.
- 2:10:36Technically, he'd not. Been exactly bro.
- 2:10:41So just this whole situation played out and I was arrested
- 2:10:46for kidnapping. I, I, I moved the kid like, I
- 2:10:50don't know, like 10 feet and yeah.
- 2:10:55And it just like it was the, the, IT was terrible because in
- 2:10:59that moment, I'd spent my entire life trying to be a good person,
- 2:11:03you know? And in that moment I was still
- 2:11:05trying to be a good person. But I could see this, the movie
- 2:11:08of my life flipped from hero to villain in that instant.
- 2:11:12And it broke my heart, bro. And then went to gaol, had crazy
- 2:11:18experiences in gaol, like still on marijuana.
- 2:11:22And I think from the shock of the event that had just
- 2:11:26happened, my mind kind of just lost it, dude.
- 2:11:29Like I was hallucinating. I saw things on the walls and
- 2:11:33like it was, it was a terrifying 5 days in gaol.
- 2:11:38But I did have a beautiful moment of peace.
- 2:11:45My friend Cyrus, he had introduced this concept of the
- 2:11:48God spot to me. He was making a joke.
- 2:11:51He's like, yo what? What's the G spot?
- 2:11:54And I was like, dude, what are you talking about?
- 2:11:56And he said, dude, it's, it's, it's actually not the, it's the
- 2:11:59God spot. And in my hallucinations, bro, I
- 2:12:03saw this, this G on the ground of my, of my gaol cell.
- 2:12:08And I decided to put my head on this G.
- 2:12:10I'm like, oh, this is the God spot.
- 2:12:11Let me just put my head on this God spot.
- 2:12:14And when I did, dude, and I laid down on it, bro, I felt just, I
- 2:12:20think I had an ego death experience where I just
- 2:12:22completely let go of my idea of who I was.
- 2:12:27And I was in amazing bliss just feeling connected because I had
- 2:12:32set down the concept of myself and I had fully believed in the
- 2:12:35complete immersion and unity with God.
- 2:12:39And I found great peace in gaol. But then the aftermath of that
- 2:12:45were very difficult. You know, I had to go through, I
- 2:12:48think it was a A2 year, like probationary period because they
- 2:12:54saw my case. They were like this guy tried to
- 2:12:56do something good. The law is like the letter that
- 2:12:59it's iron. We can't change it.
- 2:13:02But if you go through this mental health recovery
- 2:13:04programme, we can get this completely off your record.
- 2:13:09And it's completely off my record now.
- 2:13:11But hey, it's my story. So I decided to share it here
- 2:13:14with you. I'm not ashamed of it, but I, I
- 2:13:21do believe now that one don't, don't act under the influence,
- 2:13:26right? And even even if there's good
- 2:13:29intention, we have to execute at a very high level of skill or
- 2:13:34else it can turn out bad. Even the most beautiful
- 2:13:36intention can turn out poorly if there's no skill behind it.
- 2:13:40And in that moment, yeah, it was, it was a difficult call,
- 2:13:46man, it was a difficult call. And I'm being very vulnerable
- 2:13:49right now, but I thought I'd share it.
- 2:13:52And that was the most difficult time of my life.
- 2:13:55But one beautiful thing that I learned too was that we are
- 2:13:59protected by our good intent. Even at the hardest times.
- 2:14:03I, I knew in my heart that I did it with good intention and that
- 2:14:09that is what saved me. You know, like just knowing that
- 2:14:14I acted with good intent. And then that process also
- 2:14:18taught me patience. You know, two years is a long
- 2:14:21time. And patience is a virtue.
- 2:14:24Patience is at a great virtue. So I learned patience through
- 2:14:27that. I learned compassion, I learned
- 2:14:29radical acceptance 'cause there was a part of me that was still
- 2:14:33clinging to like, hey, like, I know I'm right.
- 2:14:35I know what I saw, but hey, I was under the influence, man,
- 2:14:38I'm, I'm not certain now. Maybe I saw it incorrectly and,
- 2:14:42and it's, there's a high probability that I saw it
- 2:14:46incorrectly. So it's a hard lesson, but yeah,
- 2:14:50that was the hardest time of my life.
- 2:14:52That was my rock bottom. I had broken my shoulder in gaol
- 2:14:55as well. And I guess I'll just say I'm
- 2:15:00very glad I'm past it and I'm I'm grateful for the lessons.
- 2:15:04I wish it hadn't been as hard of a knock as it was.
- 2:15:07But hey, man, we're we're past it and that we made it through.
- 2:15:11So that's that it's. A hard knock life.
- 2:15:15You know, you talked about mental health recovery and this
- 2:15:20podcast stands family and strongly on the side of mental
- 2:15:25health. You know, our major sponsor is
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- 2:15:44importance of mental health and the resources of tools like
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- 2:15:56Dude, mental health determines everything.
- 2:15:58I mean, I think what happens in our society is that if kids are
- 2:16:03too sheltered, that leads to mental weakness.
- 2:16:09So there's mental weakness and there's mental strength.
- 2:16:12And when those kids that are mentally weak go out into
- 2:16:15society, they can't cope. And then we diagnose it as
- 2:16:19mental health, mental illness where it's actually mental
- 2:16:23weakness, I believe. And if we see it as mental
- 2:16:26weakness, that's something that we can actually work on.
- 2:16:30Of course, that it, it does go into mental illness at a certain
- 2:16:34point. But I, I, I do think that mental
- 2:16:37health is absolutely vital to success, is vital to living a
- 2:16:43good life. And when I was at my lowest,
- 2:16:47man, I just did one small action every day to start building
- 2:16:52momentum. I hit the treadmill every day.
- 2:16:54I, I just had to dude. And that small win every single
- 2:16:59day started rebuilding my confidence.
- 2:17:02It started rebuilding my confidence.
- 2:17:04And because I had acted with good intent, I could lean into
- 2:17:09that aspect of it as well and just know that like, hey, like
- 2:17:12you're dealt a hard hand, but you acted with good intent.
- 2:17:16So at least I know that you're this kind of person that will do
- 2:17:20the right thing, that you believe is the right thing under
- 2:17:24pressure. But make sure I do it correctly
- 2:17:26next time and make sure that I'm not under the influence.
- 2:17:29Make sure that I'm perceiving it correctly.
- 2:17:31But at least I knew that I had the courage to act.
- 2:17:34But brother, mental health is so important.
- 2:17:37And I think mental health can be diagnosed by the contents of our
- 2:17:41thoughts, by the way that we're talking to ourselves, by our
- 2:17:44internal communication. That's easily diagnosable.
- 2:17:49And what I learned is that I don't think that we should label
- 2:17:56people. I don't think that people should
- 2:17:58accept labels as identities because once we accept something
- 2:18:03as our identity, the identity is the most powerful manifestation
- 2:18:07concept that we have. Who we think we are is what we
- 2:18:10attract. Who we think we are is the
- 2:18:12lifestyle that we build. And if we accept an identity of
- 2:18:16I am depressed, I am a depressed person like I'm an anxious
- 2:18:21person like that, It's it's going to be very hard to climb
- 2:18:24out of that loop because once you attach to an identity, this
- 2:18:30is my personal opinion, by the way.
- 2:18:32But once I bought into an identity that perpetuates that
- 2:18:35loop, that cycle. Instead of doing that, I
- 2:18:39advocate for people going to the gym, get moving.
- 2:18:43You have to change something. I believe that the feeling of
- 2:18:47depression is evidence that you're not living the life that
- 2:18:50you want to live. I don't think there's anything
- 2:18:53wrong with people. I think all emotions come up for
- 2:18:57a reason, and I think depression is there to tell you that, or it
- 2:19:01was there to tell me that, hey, I'm not living the life that I
- 2:19:04want to live. Let me change something because
- 2:19:07insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting
- 2:19:12different results. Now I, I've created a, a
- 2:19:16philosophy out of all of this, which is curation is the cure.
- 2:19:22Curation is the cure. So a curator is the person in
- 2:19:27the museum that gets to decide the art that gets to go into the
- 2:19:30museum. So you curated your entire
- 2:19:33background right there. You're the curator of your home
- 2:19:36and we're all the curators of our, of our lives.
- 2:19:39And if something is going wrong in our lives, it's because we've
- 2:19:45curated something, we've allowed something in that is creating
- 2:19:49that non optimal output, or we're missing something that we
- 2:19:53need to have in order to be healthy.
- 2:19:56So I believe humans need movement.
- 2:19:59Movement is medicine and movement is what helped me climb
- 2:20:03out of rock bottom. We need extreme ownership.
- 2:20:08Shout out Jocko Wheeling. We need to take responsibility
- 2:20:10for our own lives. Growing up, I was kind of
- 2:20:13entitled, and there was a lot in my life that I wasn't used to
- 2:20:16having responsibility for. So coming out of college and
- 2:20:21having to be responsible for my own life, it was a tough
- 2:20:24transition. So I always advocate for parents
- 2:20:27giving more and more responsibility to their kids as
- 2:20:29times as time goes, Even financial responsibility, give
- 2:20:34that to your kids earlier so that they can feel the weight of
- 2:20:37it and they can get accustomed to the weight of it.
- 2:20:40But yeah, movements and we, we need to remove every negative
- 2:20:45thing that we're consuming. If you think about it, what is
- 2:20:49the point of consuming negative news?
- 2:20:51What's the point of consuming news?
- 2:20:53I mean, like there's a point in educating ourselves on how
- 2:20:58global events are playing out. Consuming good news, yes, but
- 2:21:04the negative news that is portrayed and there's a lot of
- 2:21:07it, there's no point in consuming it because one, it's
- 2:21:10already in the past. You can't influence it.
- 2:21:15You have no influence over it. So why are you giving it your
- 2:21:18time, attention and energy? What we consume, it grows within
- 2:21:22us and it's what we will produce.
- 2:21:25You know, as the seed is, so too is the fruit.
- 2:21:28So remove the negative, add the positive, keep the momentum
- 2:21:33going. That's kind of the three steps.
- 2:21:35Remove all negative things, curate out all negative things,
- 2:21:39negative self talk. Stop doing that brain rot stuff.
- 2:21:44Stop consuming that negative news.
- 2:21:46Stop consuming that crappy food. Stop eating it crappy beverages.
- 2:21:52Stop it, you know, and then move in the direction of health.
- 2:21:56Add all the positive add in movement, add in exercise, add
- 2:22:01in millionaire and billionaire consciousness.
- 2:22:04Add in the Kingdom's podcast. Add in, you know, add in the
- 2:22:09diary of ACFO, dude, add consume positivity and you will become
- 2:22:13positive. We are what we eat, bro.
- 2:22:16And then there's certain ways to keep the momentum going because
- 2:22:21momentum is created by reminding ourselves that we're making
- 2:22:24progress. I think so.
- 2:22:25I have all these mantras, which is like every little bit counts,
- 2:22:29you know, every step is one step closer.
- 2:22:32Gratitude is its own reward. And the the attitude of
- 2:22:36gratitude will take you so far, dude, because gratitude for the
- 2:22:40good attracts more of the good back to us.
- 2:22:43Gratitude magnifies the good. And I can prove it because if
- 2:22:47I'm grateful for this cup, right, I cultivate gratitude for
- 2:22:51it. I will take better care of the
- 2:22:53cup or the watermelon as we had established, and I will attract,
- 2:22:59you know, I'll, I'll make sure that it's in in good condition
- 2:23:02because I'm grateful for it. That shows that will invest care
- 2:23:06into the upkeep of it. If we are grateful for the money
- 2:23:09that we have, we'll care for that money.
- 2:23:12We'll take care of that money. We'll invest it wisely.
- 2:23:15So gratitude for the good attracts more of the good to
- 2:23:17you. And gratitude for the challenges
- 2:23:20immediately shifts you out of victim mentality and into that
- 2:23:23growth mentality that we were talking about.
- 2:23:26Hey, I just got out of gaol. What can I learn from this?
- 2:23:30You know, hey, I tried to do something good.
- 2:23:32I tried to help this kid. I misjudged it.
- 2:23:35What can I learn from it? Well, bro, don't smoke marijuana
- 2:23:39if it's not, if it's going to have those effects on you, you
- 2:23:41know, like, like just don't do it.
- 2:23:43So gratitude, man. It's, it's an invincible frame
- 2:23:47of mind. And what I've seen out of Mullah
- 2:23:50with all of the millionaires and billionaires that come to the
- 2:23:53school of mentors, they all have invincible frames of mind that
- 2:23:58allows them to perceive life in a way that is always beneficial
- 2:24:03to them no matter what the situation is.
- 2:24:05And gratitude is one of those invincible mindsets.
- 2:24:09You know, that's something I always see on the podcast every
- 2:24:13time. Gratitude is good attitude.
- 2:24:16And when a person shares the time with you, they share their
- 2:24:18life with you. Because inside, you know, for
- 2:24:20measuring life is time. You know, I'm really, really
- 2:24:23grateful having you on the show today.
- 2:24:25There's a lot we, you know, have spoken about, and there's a lot
- 2:24:29we should speak about in part, too.
- 2:24:32I know you have very limited time today because it's
- 2:24:37Billionaires Day today, right on School of Mentors and you need
- 2:24:40to run pretty soon. So I'll take you through the big
- 2:24:42fire ground and guys, expect the Part 2 and of course expect the
- 2:24:48three J's on the podcast pretty soon.
- 2:24:50That is Jack, Josh and King James.
- 2:24:55So Are you ready to rumble? Yes, yes and yes.
- 2:25:01Let's go. Okay, okay, So what is 1 habit
- 2:25:06that has changed your life forever?
- 2:25:08The Pasana meditation bro, that is the top habit.
- 2:25:12The Pasana meditation translates to insight meditation.
- 2:25:17They offer free retreats internationally.
- 2:25:20Go to a Vipassa meditation. It will change your life.
- 2:25:24It's one of the top skills that any human can acquire.
- 2:25:27It will sharpen your mind. It will de stress you.
- 2:25:30It will elevate your stress tolerance.
- 2:25:32It will give you great self-awareness.
- 2:25:34It'll help you understand yourself and understand the
- 2:25:37nature of reality. It'll make you happy and
- 2:25:39peaceful. Vipassana meditation.
- 2:25:42Interesting. So what language do you want to
- 2:25:45master next and why? Still, Mandarin Chinese, man,
- 2:25:49because I realised manifest in your mother tongue, that's the
- 2:25:53most powerful way to manifest. And my programming language for
- 2:25:57the first six years of my life was Mandarin Chinese.
- 2:26:00And when I use Mandarin Chinese, I feel more powerful.
- 2:26:03I feel more rooted. I feel because it allows me to
- 2:26:07connect with that sense of safety that that language gave
- 2:26:11me because my caretakers from zero to 6 used it with me at
- 2:26:15that pivotal age. So Mandarin Chinese.
- 2:26:19Fantastic. What is one book everyone should
- 2:26:23read before the 10:30? I'll give you 3 How to love by
- 2:26:30Zen Master TIC, not Hong. It will teach you love in the
- 2:26:33truest sense of the word. It'll help you love yourself and
- 2:26:36love others. How to win friends and influence
- 2:26:38people. It's the Bible on communication.
- 2:26:40Dale Kanegy. Dale Kanegy.
- 2:26:42That was the first book I ever bought.
- 2:26:44In my life. Let's go, brother.
- 2:26:46Hey, we're, we're connected on that.
- 2:26:48So how to win friends and influence people?
- 2:26:50It will take you so far because people will take you places that
- 2:26:53money cannot. People will take you places that
- 2:26:56money cannot. Third book mastery by Robert
- 2:27:00Greene. Think with the goal of mastery
- 2:27:05and you will become the top 1%. You will be able to achieve your
- 2:27:09potential and you'll be able to move mountains Because Robert
- 2:27:13Greene says once you've attained mastery in one specific
- 2:27:16discipline, the entire world opens up to you.
- 2:27:19And we've seen it happen again and again and again.
- 2:27:21So Mastery by Robert Greene is my third recommendation.
- 2:27:26So what do you think is the most underrated life skill?
- 2:27:32Most underrated life skill? Who most underrated life skill?
- 2:27:41The ability to rest. So a lot of people, they don't
- 2:27:46know how to rest. They literally don't know how to
- 2:27:49stop. Like people think that watching
- 2:27:52the TV is resting, but no, it takes processing power still in
- 2:27:56your brain to actually watch and process the TV show.
- 2:28:00That's still stress that you're taking on.
- 2:28:02The most underrated skill is resting.
- 2:28:05Go to a park, lay on your bed, don't go on your phone, just lay
- 2:28:09down there and be with yourself, be in your body.
- 2:28:13The body's always, the body is all it always wants to heal you.
- 2:28:18It always wants to heal. And with every breath that we
- 2:28:22take, it's always rejuvenating. And if we can learn to rest and
- 2:28:26stop and relax without consuming 24/7, man, like everybody's
- 2:28:32going to be so much happier, so much more peaceful.
- 2:28:35So resting is the number one most underrated skill.
- 2:28:38Rest and recovery very, very, very important.
- 2:28:41I think athletes actually do understand that better because
- 2:28:45they have to perform with the body.
- 2:28:48So if you could give your younger self one sentence of
- 2:28:53advice about, what would it be? Let go of that which no longer
- 2:29:07serves you and know that what once served you might not serve
- 2:29:13you right now and might not serve your highest self.
- 2:29:18I carry things and I used, I used to carry things so much.
- 2:29:23I was that junior monk man. I wasn't the senior monk, bro.
- 2:29:26I didn't set the woman down at the river.
- 2:29:28And one of my bad habits in the past was holding on to things
- 2:29:32too long. And it's something that I'm
- 2:29:33working on. And with everything that I'm
- 2:29:36able to let go of, I'm more free, I'm more happy, I'm more
- 2:29:41peaceful. So what I would say to myself
- 2:29:44is, man, if it's past, if it's in the past, just let it go.
- 2:29:48If you can make it right, make it right.
- 2:29:51If you can't or if there's no need to, let it go.
- 2:29:55And where attention goes, energy flows and reality grows.
- 2:30:00So focus your energy on what you want to grow, not on what you
- 2:30:05don't. That's that's what I'd say.
- 2:30:09I think that's powerful. Reminds me of a private
- 2:30:12conversation is having with my Co host and Co founder a couple
- 2:30:16of days ago. And he said I don't want to grow
- 2:30:19older. I know grow wiser.
- 2:30:22That will be a very, very big shame.
- 2:30:25And you know, one thing I've learned this year as I grow
- 2:30:29older and grow wiser is the importance of letting go and
- 2:30:34letting God let go and let God add a deal.
- 2:30:41That's powerful, man. That's that faith, right?
- 2:30:43That's that trust. And I think when I'm able to let
- 2:30:48go of cause for me, the, the Buddhist practise, what I'm
- 2:30:52working on right now is letting go of my attachment to all
- 2:30:55language and all the concepts that we cling to 'cause we had
- 2:30:59already established that language there.
- 2:31:02It's, it's all just sounds right that we've conditioned the
- 2:31:06response. So for me, I'm, I'm learning to
- 2:31:09let go. And I think trusting what comes
- 2:31:15intuitively without strategizing, trusting and
- 2:31:19leaning into that faith is the letting God aspect of what I'm
- 2:31:23working on right now, dude. So I appreciate that.
- 2:31:26And I know James loves that too. Let go and let God.
- 2:31:29Oh wow. Really interesting, great minds
- 2:31:32thinking like wow. So thank you very much once
- 2:31:35again. And of course, to the audience,
- 2:31:38always go for something in your lives, conceive, believe, start
- 2:31:43to thrive and of course, achieve, say it will come your
- 2:31:47way next. It's love and respect.
- 2:31:51And of course, a very, very big thank you to you and your fan.
- 2:31:56Wow. See you in Part 2.
- 2:31:59Let go of that which no longer serves you and know that what
- 2:32:03once served you might not serve you right now and might not
- 2:32:07serve your highest self. I carry things and I use.
- 2:32:10I used to carry things so much. I was that junior monk man.
- 2:32:13I wasn't the senior monk, bro. I didn't set the woman down at
- 2:32:16the river. And one of my bad habits in the
- 2:32:18past was holding on to things too long.
- 2:32:20And it's something that I'm working on.
- 2:32:22And with everything that I'm able to let go of, I'm more
- 2:32:25free, I'm more happy, got more peaceful.
- 2:32:27So what I would say to myself is if it's past, if it's in the
- 2:32:31past, just let it go. If you can make it right, make
- 2:32:33it right. If you can't or if there's no
- 2:32:36need to, let it go. Where attention goes, energy
- 2:32:39flows and reality grows. So focus your energy on what you
- 2:32:43want to grow, not on what you don't.
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