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Finding Our True Home in the Absolute: Experiencing Intimacy with Everything, with A. H. Almaas · Deep Transformation

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  Dear,
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  Dear
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  listener,
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  hi,
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  this
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  want
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  it,
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  could
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  you
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  please
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  help
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  us
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  by
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  going
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  to
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  wherever
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  write
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  a
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  review
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  that
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  would
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  really
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  help
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  us
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  to
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  get
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  this
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  out.
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  We
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  really
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  believe
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  in
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  what
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  we're
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  doing
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  and
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  we're
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  really
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  praying
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  and
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  hoping
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  this
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  is
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  helping
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  people
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  and
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  being
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  part
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  of
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  the
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  solution.
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  So
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  if
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  you
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  could
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  do
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  that,
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  it
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  would
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  be
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  greatly
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  appreciated
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  by
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  Roger,
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  myself
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  and
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  our
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  team.
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  God
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  bless.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  part
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  two
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  of
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  our
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  16th
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  dialogue
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  in
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  the
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  wisdom
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  series
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  with
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  A.
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  H.
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  Almaas
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  where
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  we
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  continue
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  our
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  journey
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  to
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  the
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  Absolute
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  and
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  answer
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  the
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  question
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  what
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  is
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  the
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  ultimate
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  true
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  nature
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  of
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  ourselves
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  and
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  the
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  all.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  Deep
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  Transformation:
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  Self,
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  Society,
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  Spirit,
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  life
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  enhancing,
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  paradigm
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  rattling
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  conversations
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  with
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  cloud,
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  cutting
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  edge
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  thinkers,
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  contemplatives
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  and
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  activists
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  with
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  Dr.
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  John
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  Dupuy.
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  And
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  this
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  also
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  points
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  to
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  another
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  very
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  important
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  thing
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  you
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  emphasize,
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  Hameed,
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  and
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  that
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  is
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  that
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  there's
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  this
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  mysterious
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  paradox
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  that
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  the
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  absolute
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  is
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  the
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  unmanifest,
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  radically
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  radical
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  non
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  being.
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  And
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  yet
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  it
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  has
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  an
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  unbounded
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  potential
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  for
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  manifestation.
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  The
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  universe,
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  everything
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  comes
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  out
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  of
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  it.
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  I
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  think
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  of
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  Stan
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  Grof's
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  term
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  the
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  plenum
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  void,
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  the
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  full
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  void.
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  Yes,
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  that's
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  true.
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  It
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  is
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  a
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  plenum
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  void.
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  That's
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  a
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  good
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  way
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  of
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  saying
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  it.
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  And
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  there's
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  a
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  void
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  sometimes
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  called
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  the
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  void.
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  And
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  the
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  thing
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  about
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  the
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  void
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  is
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  that
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  it
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  is
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  not
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  like
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  void
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  of
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  outer
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  space.
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  It
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  is
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  really
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  beyond
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  space.
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  It's
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  a
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  void
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  of
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  even
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  space.
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  You
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  know,
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  it's
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  like
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  you
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  can't
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  catch
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  it.
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  You
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  can't.
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  If
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  you
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  really
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  just
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  look
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  at
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  it
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  and
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  nothing
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  else,
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  you
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  don't
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  see
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  anything.
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  If
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  you
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  really
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  touch
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  it,
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  you
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  can't
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  touch
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  anything.
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  Your
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  hand
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  disappears,
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  dissolves.
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  If
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  you
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  look
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  at
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  it,
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  the
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  consciousness
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  of
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  your
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  soul,
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  it
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  melts
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  away.
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  But
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  it
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  is
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  also
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  a
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  place
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  of
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  non
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  duality.
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  This
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  emptiness
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  is
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  non
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  dual
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  with
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  consciousness
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  or
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  awareness
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  or
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  beingness.
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  There
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  are
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  two
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  sides
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  of
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  the
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  same
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  thing.
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  And
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  in
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  beingness
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  everything
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  is
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  not
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  separate
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  from
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  anything
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  else.
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  The
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  whole
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  universe
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  appears
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  as
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  a
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  unity,
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  as
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  one
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  tapestry
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  is
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  non
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  dual
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  in
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  many
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  senses.
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  Not
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  all
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  non
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  dual
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  teachings
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  teachers
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  talk
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  about
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  the
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  absolute
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  or
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  the
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  non
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  beingness.
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  Many
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  of
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  our
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  modern
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  western
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  non
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  dual
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  teachers
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  don't
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  talk
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  about
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  non
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  beingness,
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  especially
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  in
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  Advaita
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  Vedanta,
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  although
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  Nisargadatta
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  talked
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  about
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  it.
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  And
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  that's
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  I
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  wonder
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  why
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  those
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  teachers
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  don't
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  mention
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  teaching
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  about
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  that.
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  I
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  assume
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  they
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  didn't
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  get
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  it
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  when
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  they
• 3:20
  read
• 3:20
  it.
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  But
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  it
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  is,
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  you
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  know,
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  some
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  teachers,
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  some
• 3:24
  teachings
• 3:24
  refer
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  to
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  it
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  directly,
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  some
• 3:26
  teaching
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  don't.
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  And
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  you
• 3:28
  know,
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  some
• 3:28
  know
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  it,
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  some
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  don't
• 3:30
  know
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  it.
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  That's
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  why
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  they
• 3:31
  don't.
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  Because
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  you
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  don't
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  have
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  to
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  be.
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  You
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  have
• 3:34
  to,
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  don't
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  have
• 3:34
  to
• 3:34
  experience
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  the
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  absolute
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  to
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  know
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  non
• 3:36
  duality.
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  Non
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  duality
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  can
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  be
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  just
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  pure
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  consciousness
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  or
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  pure
• 3:40
  presence,
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  you
• 3:41
  know.
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  Yes,
• 3:42
  non
• 3:43
  dual.
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  So
• 3:44
  non
• 3:44
  duality.
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  That's
• 3:45
  why
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  I
• 3:45
  have
• 3:46
  many
• 3:46
  dimensions,
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  each
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  dimension
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  with
• 3:48
  non
• 3:48
  dual.
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  But
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  Absolute
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  is
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  sort
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  of
• 3:52
  inner
• 3:52
  nature
• 3:52
  of
• 3:53
  all
• 3:53
  non
• 3:53
  duals.
• 3:54
  You're
• 3:54
  making
• 3:54
  a
• 3:55
  very
• 3:55
  important
• 3:55
  point
• 3:56
  there
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  which
• 3:56
  seems
• 3:56
  to
• 3:56
  be
• 3:57
  overlooked
• 3:57
  so
• 3:57
  often.
• 3:58
  Non
• 3:59
  duality
• 3:59
  is
• 3:59
  one
• 3:59
  of
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  the
• 4:00
  buzzwords
• 4:00
  in
• 4:01
  the
• 4:01
  spiritual
• 4:01
  world
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  these
• 4:02
  days.
• 4:03
  It's
• 4:03
  kind
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  like
• 4:04
  quantum
• 4:04
  physics
• 4:05
  was
• 4:05
  30
• 4:06
  years
• 4:06
  ago.
• 4:08
  But
• 4:08
  people
• 4:09
  rarely
• 4:10
  seem
• 4:11
  to
• 4:11
  appreciate
• 4:12
  the
• 4:12
  point
• 4:12
  you're
• 4:13
  making
• 4:13
  that
• 4:13
  there
• 4:14
  are
• 4:14
  many
• 4:14
  kinds
• 4:14
  of
• 4:14
  non
• 4:15
  duality.
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  And
• 4:17
  that
• 4:17
  can
• 4:17
  be
• 4:17
  a
• 4:18
  non
• 4:18
  dual,
• 4:19
  non
• 4:19
  duality
• 4:19
  with,
• 4:20
  for
• 4:20
  example,
• 4:21
  each
• 4:21
  of
• 4:21
  the
• 4:22
  five
• 4:23
  boundless
• 4:23
  dimensions.
• 4:25
  Yeah.
• 4:25
  And
• 4:25
  all
• 4:26
  these
• 4:26
  days,
• 4:26
  I
• 4:27
  think
• 4:27
  many
• 4:27
  people
• 4:27
  use
• 4:28
  the
• 4:28
  word
• 4:28
  non
• 4:28
  dual
• 4:29
  to
• 4:29
  me.
• 4:29
  Spiritual
• 4:30
  almost.
• 4:31
  Yeah.
• 4:31
  Deep
• 4:32
  spirituality
• 4:33
  is
• 4:33
  non
• 4:34
  duality
• 4:34
  is
• 4:34
  non.
• 4:34
  Dual,
• 4:35
  which
• 4:36
  is
• 4:36
  really
• 4:37
  not
• 4:38
  accurate.
• 4:38
  I
• 4:39
  mean,
• 4:39
  non
• 4:39
  dual
• 4:40
  is
• 4:40
  deep
• 4:40
  spirituality.
• 4:41
  But
• 4:41
  there
• 4:41
  are
• 4:41
  other
• 4:42
  kinds
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  deep
• 4:42
  spirituality
• 4:43
  that
• 4:44
  have
• 4:44
  nothing
• 4:45
  to
• 4:45
  do
• 4:45
  with
• 4:45
  dual
• 4:45
  and
• 4:46
  non
• 4:46
  dual.
• 4:47
  But
• 4:47
  we're
• 4:47
  talking
• 4:48
  about
• 4:48
  the
• 4:48
  non
• 4:48
  dual
• 4:48
  here.
• 4:49
  Yeah,
• 4:50
  yeah.
• 4:51
  And
• 4:52
  you
• 4:52
  also
• 4:53
  emphasize
• 4:53
  me
• 4:54
  that
• 4:54
  with
• 4:55
  the
• 4:55
  experience
• 4:56
  in
• 4:56
  Absolute,
• 4:57
  since
• 4:57
  it's
• 4:58
  radically
• 4:59
  empty,
• 5:00
  devoid
• 5:00
  of,
• 5:01
  for
• 5:01
  example,
• 5:01
  sensation,
• 5:02
  movement,
• 5:03
  that
• 5:03
  of
• 5:04
  course
• 5:04
  the
• 5:05
  egoic
• 5:05
  self
• 5:06
  sense
• 5:07
  which
• 5:07
  is
• 5:08
  built
• 5:08
  on
• 5:08
  such
• 5:09
  experiences,
• 5:11
  necessarily
• 5:11
  dissolves.
• 5:12
  So
• 5:13
  there's
• 5:13
  a
• 5:13
  radical
• 5:14
  selflessness
• 5:15
  to
• 5:15
  the
• 5:16
  absolute.
• 5:16
  Very
• 5:17
  true.
• 5:17
  Yeah.
• 5:18
  That
• 5:18
  is
• 5:18
  an
• 5:18
  interesting
• 5:19
  point
• 5:19
  here.
• 5:21
  First
• 5:21
  of
• 5:21
  all,
• 5:22
  being
• 5:22
  the
• 5:23
  Absolute,
• 5:24
  you
• 5:24
  feel
• 5:25
  there's
• 5:25
  no
• 5:25
  manifestation
• 5:26
  of
• 5:26
  selfishness
• 5:27
  or
• 5:28
  self
• 5:28
  centeredness,
• 5:29
  no
• 5:29
  sense
• 5:29
  of
• 5:30
  an
• 5:30
  individual
• 5:31
  self
• 5:31
  or
• 5:32
  an
• 5:32
  entity
• 5:33
  that
• 5:33
  has
• 5:34
  interests
• 5:34
  or
• 5:35
  preferences
• 5:35
  or
• 5:36
  any
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  that.
• 5:36
  It
• 5:37
  is
• 5:37
  just
• 5:38
  no
• 5:38
  self
• 5:39
  that
• 5:39
  way.
• 5:40
  But
• 5:40
  also
• 5:41
  at
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  same
• 5:42
  time,
• 5:43
  some
• 5:43
  teaching
• 5:44
  take
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  Absolute
• 5:45
  as
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  ultimate
• 5:45
  self.
• 5:46
  It's
• 5:47
  the
• 5:47
  Parabrahman
• 5:48
  of
• 5:49
  Vedanta.
• 5:50
  They
• 5:51
  call
• 5:51
  it
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  Self,
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  ultimate
• 5:52
  self.
• 5:53
  So
• 5:53
  you
• 5:53
  can
• 5:54
  experience
• 5:54
  it
• 5:54
  that
• 5:54
  way
• 5:55
  as
• 5:55
  the
• 5:55
  ultimate
• 5:55
  self,
• 5:56
  as
• 5:56
  I
• 5:56
  am
• 5:56
  the
• 5:57
  self
• 5:57
  self
• 5:57
  of
• 5:58
  everything.
• 5:58
  But
• 5:59
  it's
• 5:59
  not
• 5:59
  what
• 6:00
  most
• 6:00
  people
• 6:00
  call
• 6:01
  self.
• 6:01
  It's
• 6:02
  definitely
• 6:02
  selflessness
• 6:04
  and
• 6:04
  selflessness.
• 6:05
  Not
• 6:05
  just
• 6:05
  in
• 6:06
  the
• 6:06
  moral
• 6:06
  sense.
• 6:06
  And
• 6:07
  as
• 6:07
  I'm
• 6:07
  not
• 6:08
  selfish
• 6:08
  and
• 6:09
  not
• 6:09
  generous,
• 6:10
  but
• 6:10
  meaning
• 6:11
  there's
• 6:11
  no
• 6:12
  center
• 6:12
  that's
• 6:12
  called
• 6:13
  self.
• 6:14
  Yeah.
• 6:16
  In
• 6:16
  fact,
• 6:17
  at
• 6:17
  this
• 6:17
  point,
• 6:18
  the
• 6:18
  very
• 6:19
  term
• 6:20
  kind
• 6:20
  of
• 6:20
  ceases
• 6:21
  to
• 6:21
  be
• 6:22
  meaningful
• 6:23
  in
• 6:23
  a
• 6:23
  way.
• 6:24
  What
• 6:25
  self?
• 6:26
  Yeah,
• 6:26
  it
• 6:26
  feels
• 6:27
  like
• 6:27
  self.
• 6:27
  Non
• 6:28
  self
• 6:29
  kind
• 6:29
  of
• 6:29
  dissolves
• 6:31
  at
• 6:31
  this
• 6:31
  point.
• 6:33
  Yeah.
• 6:33
  I
• 6:34
  find
• 6:34
  it
• 6:34
  interesting
• 6:35
  that
• 6:35
  different
• 6:35
  teachings
• 6:37
  use
• 6:38
  different
• 6:39
  terminology.
• 6:40
  And
• 6:40
  the
• 6:41
  Buddhist
• 6:41
  in
• 6:42
  lexiton
• 6:43
  and
• 6:44
  non
• 6:44
  dual
• 6:44
  teaching
• 6:45
  of
• 6:45
  Buddhism,
• 6:46
  they
• 6:47
  don't
• 6:47
  refer
• 6:47
  to
• 6:47
  it
• 6:47
  as
• 6:48
  self.
• 6:49
  It's
• 6:49
  definitely
• 6:50
  selflessness,
• 6:52
  you
• 6:52
  know,
• 6:53
  no
• 6:53
  self,
• 6:53
  because
• 6:54
  self
• 6:54
  is
• 6:54
  a
• 6:54
  big
• 6:54
  deal.
• 6:55
  And
• 6:55
  Buddhism,
• 6:56
  the
• 6:56
  illumination
• 6:57
  of
• 6:57
  self.
• 6:58
  In
• 6:59
  the
• 6:59
  Hindu
• 7:00
  tradition,
• 7:00
  it
• 7:01
  is
• 7:01
  self,
• 7:02
  but
• 7:02
  it's
• 7:03
  seen
• 7:03
  as
• 7:03
  the
• 7:03
  final
• 7:04
  alternate
• 7:05
  self.
• 7:05
  Atman.
• 7:06
  Yeah,
• 7:06
  Atman.
• 7:07
  Atman
• 7:08
  is
• 7:08
  Brahman,
• 7:08
  Brahman.
• 7:09
  Yeah.
• 7:09
  But
• 7:10
  Atman
• 7:10
  is
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  individual
• 7:11
  sense
• 7:12
  of
• 7:13
  pure
• 7:13
  self
• 7:14
  moving
• 7:15
  into
• 7:15
  the
• 7:16
  universal
• 7:17
  pure
• 7:18
  self,
• 7:18
  which
• 7:18
  is
• 7:18
  in
• 7:19
  this
• 7:19
  case,
• 7:19
  the
• 7:20
  Brahman
• 7:20
  or
• 7:21
  para
• 7:21
  Brahman,
• 7:21
  which
• 7:22
  is
• 7:22
  sort
• 7:22
  of
• 7:22
  like
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  Absolute.
• 7:24
  It
• 7:24
  is
• 7:25
  also
• 7:25
  in
• 7:26
  Kashmiri
• 7:26
  Shaivism.
• 7:27
  Kashmiri
• 7:28
  Shaivism.
• 7:28
  Remember
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  origin
• 7:29
  of
• 7:30
  it,
• 7:31
  the
• 7:32
  apex
• 7:32
  of
• 7:32
  the
• 7:33
  path,
• 7:33
  or
• 7:33
  the
• 7:34
  deepest
• 7:35
  verization
• 7:36
  of
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  path
• 7:37
  is
• 7:37
  the
• 7:38
  Shakti.
• 7:39
  Shakti
• 7:39
  Shiva.
• 7:41
  Shivan.
• 7:41
  Shakti.
• 7:42
  Shiva
• 7:43
  is
• 7:43
  the
• 7:44
  unmovable,
• 7:44
  immovable,
• 7:46
  ultimate,
• 7:48
  pure,
• 7:48
  peace,
• 7:48
  stillness,
• 7:49
  all
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  that.
• 7:50
  And
• 7:50
  Shakti
• 7:51
  is
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  energy,
• 7:52
  the
• 7:52
  dynamism,
• 7:53
  the
• 7:53
  creative
• 7:53
  force.
• 7:54
  Logos.
• 7:55
  Logos,
• 7:56
  right.
• 7:57
  So
• 7:57
  they
• 7:57
  do
• 7:57
  have
• 7:57
  Shiv
• 7:58
  Ego.
• 7:58
  Shiva.
• 8:02
  So
• 8:02
  you
• 8:02
  guys
• 8:03
  are
• 8:03
  all
• 8:03
  talking
• 8:03
  about
• 8:03
  the
• 8:04
  same
• 8:04
  thing,
• 8:04
  just
• 8:05
  different
• 8:06
  aspects.
• 8:06
  And
• 8:07
  just.
• 8:08
  It
• 8:08
  doesn't
• 8:08
  seem
• 8:08
  that
• 8:08
  any
• 8:09
  tradition
• 8:09
  can
• 8:10
  contain
• 8:10
  it
• 8:11
  all.
• 8:12
  But
• 8:12
  that's
• 8:14
  why
• 8:14
  many
• 8:16
  people,
• 8:16
  many
• 8:17
  intellectual
• 8:19
  philosophers
• 8:20
  or
• 8:20
  historian
• 8:21
  of
• 8:21
  spirituality
• 8:23
  coined
• 8:25
  perennial
• 8:26
  philosophy.
• 8:27
  They're
• 8:27
  all
• 8:27
  talking
• 8:27
  about
• 8:28
  the
• 8:28
  same
• 8:28
  thing,
• 8:28
  but
• 8:29
  different
• 8:29
  ways.
• 8:30
  Yeah,
• 8:30
  you
• 8:31
  look
• 8:31
  at
• 8:31
  it
• 8:31
  that
• 8:31
  way
• 8:31
  every.
• 8:32
  They're
• 8:32
  all
• 8:32
  talking
• 8:33
  about
• 8:33
  the
• 8:33
  same
• 8:33
  thing.
• 8:34
  However,
• 8:34
  if
• 8:34
  you
• 8:35
  go
• 8:35
  to
• 8:35
  other
• 8:35
  teachings,
• 8:36
  they're
• 8:36
  not
• 8:36
  talking
• 8:36
  about
• 8:36
  the
• 8:37
  Absolute.
• 8:40
  When
• 8:40
  Dogen,
• 8:41
  Zen
• 8:41
  master,
• 8:42
  talks
• 8:43
  about
• 8:45
  realization,
• 8:45
  for
• 8:46
  him
• 8:46
  talk
• 8:46
  about
• 8:46
  suchness,
• 8:47
  he's
• 8:47
  not
• 8:47
  talking
• 8:48
  about
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  Absolute.
• 8:48
  It's
• 8:49
  a
• 8:49
  whole
• 8:49
  other
• 8:49
  different
• 8:50
  kind
• 8:50
  of
• 8:50
  realization.
• 8:51
  So
• 8:52
  we
• 8:53
  don't
• 8:53
  want
• 8:53
  to
• 8:53
  say
• 8:53
  that
• 8:54
  all
• 8:54
  teachings
• 8:55
  have
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  Absolute
• 8:56
  as
• 8:57
  their.
• 8:57
  Realization,
• 8:59
  all
• 8:59
  deep
• 9:00
  teachings.
• 9:00
  How
• 9:00
  would
• 9:01
  you
• 9:01
  say
• 9:01
  that?
• 9:01
  I
• 9:02
  have
• 9:02
  to
• 9:02
  deal
• 9:02
  with
• 9:02
  that
• 9:02
  at
• 9:02
  some
• 9:03
  point.
• 9:03
  I
• 9:03
  don't
• 9:03
  think
• 9:03
  you're
• 9:04
  going
• 9:04
  to
• 9:04
  hear
• 9:04
  it
• 9:04
  at
• 9:04
  the
• 9:04
  First
• 9:04
  Baptist
• 9:05
  Church
• 9:05
  on
• 9:05
  the
• 9:05
  corner,
• 9:06
  but
• 9:07
  in.
• 9:07
  In
• 9:07
  all
• 9:07
  the
• 9:07
  great
• 9:08
  traditions,
• 9:08
  it's
• 9:08
  like,
• 9:09
  yeah,
• 9:10
  it's
• 9:10
  there.
• 9:10
  This
• 9:11
  is
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  most
• 9:12
  common,
• 9:12
  you
• 9:13
  know,
• 9:14
  deepest
• 9:15
  teaching
• 9:15
  in
• 9:15
  many
• 9:16
  of
• 9:16
  the
• 9:16
  teaching.
• 9:17
  Yeah.
• 9:18
  And
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  think
• 9:19
  you're
• 9:20
  pointing
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  a
• 9:20
  really
• 9:21
  important
• 9:22
  point
• 9:22
  both
• 9:22
  of
• 9:23
  you
• 9:23
  here,
• 9:23
  and
• 9:23
  that
• 9:23
  is
• 9:24
  that
• 9:24
  there
• 9:25
  are
• 9:25
  commonalities.
• 9:26
  There
• 9:26
  are
• 9:26
  some
• 9:27
  common
• 9:27
  realizations.
• 9:28
  But
• 9:28
  the
• 9:29
  generalization
• 9:29
  which
• 9:30
  was
• 9:30
  at
• 9:30
  the
• 9:30
  heart
• 9:30
  of
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  perennial
• 9:31
  philosophy,
• 9:32
  that
• 9:33
  all
• 9:34
  traditions
• 9:34
  are
• 9:35
  different
• 9:35
  paths
• 9:36
  up
• 9:36
  the
• 9:36
  same
• 9:37
  mountain
• 9:37
  to
• 9:37
  the
• 9:37
  same
• 9:37
  peak,
• 9:38
  is
• 9:39
  clearly
• 9:40
  not
• 9:40
  substantiated
• 9:41
  by
• 9:41
  comparative
• 9:43
  analysis.
• 9:44
  Yeah.
• 9:44
  So
• 9:44
  it's
• 9:45
  now
• 9:45
  history.
• 9:45
  Yeah,
• 9:46
  yeah.
• 9:47
  Moving
• 9:48
  to
• 9:49
  a
• 9:49
  further
• 9:49
  implication
• 9:50
  of
• 9:50
  the
• 9:50
  Absolute,
• 9:51
  I
• 9:51
  need.
• 9:51
  And
• 9:52
  this
• 9:53
  gets.
• 9:54
  I'm
• 9:54
  wanting
• 9:55
  to
• 9:55
  get
• 9:55
  you
• 9:56
  into
• 9:56
  a
• 9:56
  discussion
• 9:57
  about
• 9:58
  what
• 9:58
  you
• 9:59
  call
• 9:59
  emptiness.
• 10:00
  We
• 10:00
  talked
• 10:00
  about
• 10:00
  the
• 10:01
  absolute
• 10:02
  as
• 10:02
  the
• 10:02
  fundamental
• 10:04
  round,
• 10:05
  for
• 10:05
  want
• 10:05
  of
• 10:06
  a
• 10:06
  better
• 10:06
  word,
• 10:07
  of
• 10:08
  manifestation
• 10:08
  of
• 10:09
  reality.
• 10:09
  But
• 10:10
  now
• 10:10
  you
• 10:10
  move
• 10:11
  into
• 10:13
  a
• 10:13
  description
• 10:14
  of.
• 10:15
  With
• 10:16
  the
• 10:16
  return
• 10:17
  of
• 10:17
  experience
• 10:19
  and
• 10:20
  manifestation
• 10:21
  of
• 10:21
  phenomena,
• 10:22
  that
• 10:23
  all
• 10:23
  phenomena
• 10:24
  are
• 10:24
  now
• 10:25
  seen
• 10:25
  in
• 10:25
  a
• 10:25
  very
• 10:26
  different
• 10:26
  way,
• 10:27
  where
• 10:27
  it's
• 10:28
  possible
• 10:28
  to
• 10:29
  appreciate,
• 10:30
  perceive
• 10:31
  both
• 10:32
  their
• 10:32
  appearance,
• 10:33
  they
• 10:33
  appear,
• 10:34
  and
• 10:34
  yet
• 10:36
  their
• 10:36
  fundamental
• 10:37
  nature
• 10:38
  is
• 10:38
  this
• 10:38
  absolute,
• 10:39
  which
• 10:39
  gives
• 10:40
  them
• 10:40
  a
• 10:40
  kind
• 10:40
  of,
• 10:41
  again,
• 10:42
  words
• 10:42
  fail,
• 10:42
  but
• 10:43
  an
• 10:43
  ontological
• 10:44
  transparency,
• 10:46
  an
• 10:47
  emptiness
• 10:47
  of
• 10:47
  the
• 10:48
  solidity
• 10:48
  and
• 10:49
  apparently
• 10:49
  finality
• 10:50
  and
• 10:50
  reality
• 10:51
  that
• 10:51
  we
• 10:52
  previously
• 10:53
  projected
• 10:54
  onto
• 10:54
  them.
• 10:55
  This
• 10:55
  is
• 10:56
  deep
• 10:56
  stuff.
• 10:56
  And
• 10:57
  I
• 10:57
  have
• 10:57
  to
• 10:57
  say
• 10:57
  that
• 10:58
  I've
• 10:58
  been
• 10:58
  trying
• 10:59
  to
• 10:59
  make
• 10:59
  sense
• 10:59
  of
• 10:59
  emptiness
• 11:00
  in
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  Buddhist
• 11:00
  tradition
• 11:01
  for
• 11:01
  decades,
• 11:01
  but
• 11:01
  this
• 11:02
  was
• 11:02
  really
• 11:02
  clarifying.
• 11:03
  So
• 11:03
  please,
• 11:03
  I'm
• 11:04
  saying
• 11:04
  a
• 11:04
  lot.
• 11:04
  I
• 11:05
  want
• 11:05
  to
• 11:05
  turn
• 11:05
  it
• 11:05
  over
• 11:06
  to
• 11:06
  you.
• 11:06
  Yeah,
• 11:07
  well,
• 11:07
  it.
• 11:08
  A
• 11:08
  big
• 11:08
  part
• 11:09
  of
• 11:09
  understanding
• 11:10
  the
• 11:10
  absolute
• 11:11
  is
• 11:11
  that
• 11:11
  the
• 11:11
  nature,
• 11:13
  when
• 11:13
  you
• 11:13
  really
• 11:13
  experience
• 11:14
  what's
• 11:14
  at
• 11:14
  the
• 11:15
  heart
• 11:15
  of
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  absolute,
• 11:16
  it's
• 11:17
  pure
• 11:17
  emptiness,
• 11:18
  which
• 11:18
  means
• 11:19
  the
• 11:19
  non
• 11:20
  existent,
• 11:20
  non
• 11:20
  existence,
• 11:21
  non
• 11:22
  being.
• 11:23
  And
• 11:23
  it
• 11:24
  is
• 11:24
  when
• 11:24
  you
• 11:25
  recognize,
• 11:26
  even
• 11:26
  as
• 11:26
  everything
• 11:27
  emerge
• 11:27
  and
• 11:27
  appear
• 11:28
  as
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  glittering
• 11:29
  light,
• 11:29
  whatever,
• 11:30
  none
• 11:30
  of
• 11:30
  it
• 11:31
  has
• 11:31
  substantial
• 11:32
  existence
• 11:33
  because
• 11:34
  its
• 11:34
  nature
• 11:35
  is
• 11:35
  non
• 11:36
  existence.
• 11:37
  And
• 11:37
  this
• 11:38
  non
• 11:38
  existence,
• 11:38
  I
• 11:38
  call
• 11:39
  it
• 11:39
  non
• 11:39
  being
• 11:39
  because
• 11:40
  the
• 11:41
  thing
• 11:42
  manifests
• 11:42
  as
• 11:42
  pure
• 11:44
  presence
• 11:44
  of
• 11:44
  light
• 11:45
  or
• 11:46
  manifestation.
• 11:48
  And
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  absolute
• 11:49
  nature
• 11:50
  is.
• 11:50
  I
• 11:51
  call
• 11:51
  absence.
• 11:52
  To
• 11:52
  contrast
• 11:53
  it
• 11:53
  with
• 11:53
  presence,
• 11:55
  presence
• 11:56
  is
• 11:56
  absence
• 11:57
  is
• 11:57
  being
• 11:57
  is
• 11:58
  non
• 11:58
  being.
• 11:58
  That's
• 11:59
  good.
• 12:00
  The
• 12:00
  same
• 12:00
  thing.
• 12:01
  So
• 12:01
  I
• 12:02
  referred
• 12:02
  to
• 12:02
  as
• 12:02
  absence
• 12:03
  because
• 12:03
  when
• 12:03
  you
• 12:04
  look
• 12:04
  for
• 12:04
  it,
• 12:04
  you
• 12:04
  don't
• 12:05
  find
• 12:05
  anything.
• 12:06
  So
• 12:06
  absence
• 12:06
  is
• 12:07
  my
• 12:07
  word
• 12:07
  I
• 12:07
  use.
• 12:08
  I
• 12:08
  didn't
• 12:09
  borrow
• 12:09
  it
• 12:09
  from
• 12:09
  anywhere.
• 12:10
  Meaning
• 12:10
  it's
• 12:10
  the
• 12:11
  absence
• 12:11
  of
• 12:11
  everything,
• 12:12
  including
• 12:14
  space,
• 12:15
  including
• 12:16
  essence,
• 12:17
  including.
• 12:19
  So
• 12:19
  absence
• 12:20
  is
• 12:20
  like
• 12:20
  you
• 12:21
  look
• 12:21
  for.
• 12:21
  You
• 12:21
  don't
• 12:21
  find
• 12:22
  anything,
• 12:22
  basically.
• 12:23
  And
• 12:23
  you're
• 12:24
  completely
• 12:24
  cleared
• 12:25
  out
• 12:25
  in
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  process
• 12:26
  of
• 12:26
  trying
• 12:27
  to
• 12:27
  find
• 12:27
  it,
• 12:28
  you
• 12:28
  are
• 12:29
  erased
• 12:30
  of
• 12:30
  everything.
• 12:31
  So
• 12:31
  there's
• 12:31
  no
• 12:32
  substance,
• 12:33
  no
• 12:33
  presence,
• 12:34
  no
• 12:34
  being,
• 12:35
  no
• 12:35
  existence,
• 12:36
  no
• 12:37
  appearance
• 12:37
  in
• 12:37
  it,
• 12:38
  no
• 12:38
  color.
• 12:38
  That's
• 12:39
  why
• 12:39
  it's
• 12:39
  black.
• 12:39
  Black
• 12:40
  would
• 12:40
  mean
• 12:40
  no
• 12:40
  color.
• 12:41
  I
• 12:41
  see
• 12:41
  that
• 12:42
  black.
• 12:42
  Many
• 12:42
  teachings
• 12:43
  don't
• 12:43
  refer
• 12:43
  to
• 12:43
  the
• 12:44
  blackness
• 12:44
  of
• 12:44
  it.
• 12:45
  That's
• 12:45
  what
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  notice.
• 12:46
  And
• 12:46
  when
• 12:47
  I
• 12:47
  have
• 12:47
  to
• 12:48
  talk
• 12:48
  to
• 12:49
  some
• 12:49
  Buddhist
• 12:49
  scholars
• 12:50
  who
• 12:51
  know
• 12:51
  about
• 12:51
  Buddhism
• 12:52
  a
• 12:52
  lot
• 12:52
  for
• 12:53
  them
• 12:53
  to
• 12:53
  tell
• 12:53
  me,
• 12:53
  oh,
• 12:54
  yeah,
• 12:54
  they
• 12:54
  do
• 12:54
  have,
• 12:55
  you
• 12:55
  know,
• 12:55
  gray
• 12:56
  or
• 12:56
  black,
• 12:56
  but
• 12:56
  they
• 12:57
  don't
• 12:57
  talk
• 12:57
  about
• 12:57
  it.
• 12:59
  So
• 12:59
  we're
• 12:59
  dealing
• 13:00
  with
• 13:00
  maybe
• 13:01
  the
• 13:01
  ultimate
• 13:01
  mystery
• 13:01
  of
• 13:02
  mysteries.
• 13:02
  How
• 13:03
  everything
• 13:03
  comes
• 13:04
  from
• 13:04
  nothing.
• 13:05
  Yeah,
• 13:05
  it
• 13:05
  is
• 13:06
  the
• 13:06
  mystery.
• 13:06
  And
• 13:06
  that's
• 13:07
  one
• 13:07
  of
• 13:07
  the
• 13:08
  words
• 13:08
  I
• 13:09
  use
• 13:09
  for
• 13:09
  it
• 13:09
  is
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  mystery.
• 13:11
  In
• 13:12
  fact,
• 13:12
  it
• 13:12
  is
• 13:12
  the
• 13:13
  essence
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  mystery.
• 13:14
  It's
• 13:14
  mystery
• 13:15
  because
• 13:16
  regardless
• 13:16
  how
• 13:17
  much
• 13:17
  we
• 13:17
  know
• 13:17
  it,
• 13:19
  you
• 13:19
  can't
• 13:19
  say
• 13:19
  you
• 13:20
  really
• 13:21
  completely
• 13:21
  got
• 13:21
  it
• 13:22
  because
• 13:22
  there's
• 13:22
  nothing
• 13:23
  there
• 13:23
  to
• 13:23
  get.
• 13:26
  Love
• 13:26
  that.
• 13:28
  Yes,
• 13:28
  that
• 13:29
  does
• 13:29
  make
• 13:29
  it
• 13:29
  a
• 13:29
  little
• 13:30
  challenging.
• 13:31
  Yeah,
• 13:31
  challenging
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  mind.
• 13:32
  The
• 13:32
  mind
• 13:32
  wants
• 13:33
  to
• 13:33
  know
• 13:33
  them.
• 13:34
  The
• 13:34
  mind
• 13:34
  disappears,
• 13:35
  pieces
• 13:35
  tries
• 13:35
  to
• 13:36
  know
• 13:36
  that.
• 13:37
  You
• 13:37
  could
• 13:38
  say
• 13:38
  I
• 13:38
  got
• 13:38
  it.
• 13:39
  Think
• 13:39
  it's
• 13:40
  oh,
• 13:40
  it's
• 13:40
  emptiness
• 13:41
  head.
• 13:41
  Oh
• 13:42
  it
• 13:42
  is
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  elimination
• 13:43
  is
• 13:43
  dissolving
• 13:45
  and
• 13:45
  then
• 13:45
  before
• 13:46
  you
• 13:46
  know
• 13:46
  it,
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  mind
• 13:47
  is
• 13:47
  gone.
• 13:50
  Well,
• 13:50
  that
• 13:50
  could
• 13:50
  be
• 13:50
  a
• 13:51
  relief
• 13:53
  usually.
• 13:57
  But
• 13:57
  you
• 13:57
  also
• 13:58
  point
• 13:58
  out
• 13:59
  something
• 13:59
  here
• 13:59
  which
• 13:59
  I,
• 14:00
  I'd
• 14:00
  never
• 14:00
  seen
• 14:01
  before.
• 14:01
  I
• 14:01
  mean
• 14:02
  was
• 14:02
  absolutely
• 14:02
  intriguing.
• 14:03
  That
• 14:03
  is
• 14:04
  that
• 14:04
  the
• 14:06
  way
• 14:06
  we
• 14:06
  experience
• 14:07
  phenomena,
• 14:08
  for
• 14:08
  example,
• 14:09
  their
• 14:10
  solidity
• 14:11
  or
• 14:11
  quotes
• 14:12
  reality
• 14:13
  are
• 14:14
  actually
• 14:14
  projections
• 14:15
  onto
• 14:16
  them,
• 14:16
  onto
• 14:17
  phenomena.
• 14:18
  And
• 14:19
  that
• 14:20
  when
• 14:20
  we
• 14:20
  are
• 14:21
  able
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  get
• 14:21
  below
• 14:21
  that
• 14:22
  to
• 14:22
  experience
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  all
• 14:24
  phenomena
• 14:24
  as
• 14:24
  expressions
• 14:25
  of
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  absolute,
• 14:26
  then
• 14:26
  these
• 14:27
  projections
• 14:28
  dissolve.
• 14:29
  Yeah,
• 14:30
  that's
• 14:30
  true.
• 14:30
  And
• 14:31
  that
• 14:32
  everything
• 14:32
  seems
• 14:33
  to
• 14:33
  be
• 14:33
  empty
• 14:34
  for
• 14:34
  anything,
• 14:35
  any
• 14:35
  substantiality.
• 14:37
  That's
• 14:37
  why
• 14:37
  everything's
• 14:38
  so
• 14:38
  transparent,
• 14:39
  so
• 14:39
  feel
• 14:40
  like
• 14:40
  bubbles,
• 14:40
  like
• 14:41
  almost
• 14:41
  like
• 14:42
  like
• 14:42
  hologram,
• 14:43
  you
• 14:43
  know,
• 14:44
  hologram,
• 14:45
  empty
• 14:46
  subsets,
• 14:46
  just
• 14:47
  light,
• 14:47
  just
• 14:47
  colors,
• 14:48
  you
• 14:48
  know,
• 14:49
  the
• 14:50
  whole
• 14:50
  universe
• 14:51
  looks
• 14:51
  like
• 14:51
  a
• 14:51
  hologram.
• 14:52
  Now
• 14:52
  in
• 14:53
  physics
• 14:53
  they
• 14:53
  talk
• 14:53
  about
• 14:54
  the
• 14:54
  holographic
• 14:55
  hologramic
• 14:56
  universe.
• 14:56
  They
• 14:57
  think
• 14:57
  of
• 14:57
  the
• 14:57
  universe
• 14:57
  as
• 14:58
  a
• 14:58
  hologram.
• 14:59
  Do
• 14:59
  you
• 14:59
  think
• 15:00
  that
• 15:00
  is
• 15:00
  accurate
• 15:01
  in
• 15:01
  some
• 15:01
  sense?
• 15:01
  I
• 15:02
  mean,
• 15:02
  I
• 15:02
  guess
• 15:02
  you
• 15:02
  do
• 15:03
  because
• 15:03
  you
• 15:03
  just
• 15:03
  said
• 15:04
  it.
• 15:05
  Not
• 15:05
  in
• 15:06
  the
• 15:06
  way
• 15:06
  they
• 15:06
  think
• 15:06
  about
• 15:07
  it.
• 15:07
  Okay,
• 15:08
  yeah,
• 15:09
  they
• 15:09
  don't
• 15:09
  mean
• 15:09
  hologram
• 15:10
  the
• 15:10
  way
• 15:10
  we
• 15:11
  talking
• 15:11
  about
• 15:11
  it,
• 15:11
  but
• 15:12
  they
• 15:12
  could.
• 15:12
  Holographic
• 15:13
  universe.
• 15:14
  But
• 15:14
  they
• 15:14
  wonder
• 15:15
  where
• 15:15
  is
• 15:15
  it
• 15:16
  projected
• 15:16
  from.
• 15:17
  They
• 15:17
  talk
• 15:17
  about
• 15:18
  it's
• 15:18
  projected
• 15:19
  from
• 15:19
  the
• 15:19
  periphery,
• 15:21
  from
• 15:21
  outside
• 15:21
  and
• 15:22
  which
• 15:23
  is
• 15:23
  sort
• 15:23
  of
• 15:23
  from
• 15:24
  the
• 15:24
  absolute
• 15:24
  nose
• 15:25
  and
• 15:25
  inside
• 15:25
  out.
• 15:28
  Inside,
• 15:28
  outside.
• 15:29
  What
• 15:29
  the
• 15:29
  heck.
• 15:30
  Anyway,
• 15:31
  I
• 15:31
  don't
• 15:31
  know
• 15:32
  if
• 15:32
  I
• 15:32
  buy
• 15:32
  the
• 15:33
  holographic
• 15:34
  theory
• 15:34
  in
• 15:34
  physics,
• 15:35
  but
• 15:35
  it
• 15:35
  is
• 15:35
  a
• 15:35
  big
• 15:36
  part
• 15:36
  of
• 15:37
  these
• 15:37
  days,
• 15:37
  one
• 15:37
  of
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  big
• 15:38
  theories,
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  quantum
• 15:39
  theory.
• 15:40
  And
• 15:40
  you
• 15:41
  come
• 15:41
  to
• 15:41
  a
• 15:41
  kind
• 15:42
  of
• 15:42
  conclusion
• 15:43
  here
• 15:43
  about
• 15:43
  the
• 15:44
  experience
• 15:45
  of
• 15:46
  phenomena,
• 15:46
  in
• 15:47
  fact
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
  experience
• 15:47
  of
• 15:48
  everything
• 15:48
  that
• 15:49
  is
• 15:49
  that
• 15:50
  it
• 15:50
  is
• 15:50
  that
• 15:51
  they
• 15:51
  are
• 15:52
  a
• 15:52
  combination
• 15:53
  of
• 15:53
  appearance
• 15:54
  and
• 15:55
  emptiness
• 15:56
  both.
• 15:57
  Yeah,
• 15:57
  yeah.
• 15:58
  Things
• 15:58
  appear
• 15:59
  and
• 16:00
  appear
• 16:00
  sometimes
• 16:01
  to
• 16:01
  have
• 16:01
  substantial,
• 16:02
  you
• 16:02
  can
• 16:02
  experience
• 16:03
  them
• 16:03
  as
• 16:03
  substantial.
• 16:05
  But
• 16:05
  if
• 16:06
  you
• 16:06
  feel
• 16:07
  inside
• 16:07
  them
• 16:07
  there
• 16:08
  is
• 16:08
  nothing
• 16:08
  there,
• 16:10
  nothing
• 16:10
  that
• 16:11
  can
• 16:11
  be
• 16:11
  sensed
• 16:12
  or
• 16:12
  seen.
• 16:13
  That's
• 16:13
  such
• 16:14
  a
• 16:14
  radical
• 16:15
  view.
• 16:15
  And
• 16:15
  I
• 16:16
  think
• 16:16
  one
• 16:16
  of
• 16:16
  my
• 16:16
  all
• 16:17
  time
• 16:17
  favorite
• 16:17
  historical
• 16:18
  heroes
• 16:19
  is
• 16:19
  Long
• 16:19
  Chinpa.
• 16:20
  And
• 16:21
  he
• 16:21
  practically
• 16:21
  goes
• 16:22
  hoarse
• 16:22
  talking
• 16:22
  about
• 16:24
  the
• 16:25
  inseparability
• 16:26
  of
• 16:26
  appearance
• 16:27
  and
• 16:27
  emptiness.
• 16:28
  Right?
• 16:29
  Yeah,
• 16:29
  that's
• 16:30
  a
• 16:30
  big
• 16:30
  basic
• 16:31
  tenet
• 16:31
  of
• 16:32
  Zogyang
• 16:33
  Champa.
• 16:34
  He
• 16:34
  went
• 16:34
  to
• 16:35
  great
• 16:35
  details
• 16:36
  discussing.
• 16:37
  I
• 16:37
  read
• 16:37
  a
• 16:37
  lot
• 16:37
  of
• 16:38
  his
• 16:38
  books.
• 16:39
  Oh,
• 16:39
  me
• 16:39
  too.
• 16:40
  I
• 16:40
  learned
• 16:40
  a
• 16:40
  lot
• 16:41
  from
• 16:41
  him.
• 16:42
  He
• 16:42
  probably
• 16:43
  knew
• 16:43
  it
• 16:43
  better
• 16:43
  than
• 16:44
  me.
• 16:46
  I
• 16:46
  don't
• 16:46
  know.
• 16:46
  But
• 16:47
  he
• 16:47
  was
• 16:47
  up
• 16:47
  there.
• 16:49
  He
• 16:49
  wrote
• 16:49
  lots
• 16:49
  of
• 16:49
  books.
• 16:50
  He
• 16:50
  spent
• 16:50
  his
• 16:50
  life
• 16:51
  studying
• 16:51
  it.
• 16:51
  Yeah,
• 16:52
  yeah,
• 16:53
  One
• 16:53
  of
• 16:53
  my
• 16:54
  favorite
• 16:54
  occupations
• 16:55
  these
• 16:55
  days,
• 16:55
  just
• 16:55
  to
• 16:56
  lie
• 16:56
  on
• 16:56
  my
• 16:56
  bed
• 16:56
  and
• 16:56
  listen
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  readings
• 16:58
  of
• 16:59
  Longchampa.
• 17:00
  This
• 17:00
  beautiful
• 17:01
  set
• 17:01
  of
• 17:01
  readings
• 17:02
  by
• 17:02
  actually
• 17:02
  one
• 17:02
  of
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  guests
• 17:03
  we
• 17:03
  had
• 17:04
  on
• 17:04
  the
• 17:04
  podcast
• 17:04
  Anon
• 17:05
  Jayasara
• 17:06
  Samaneri,
• 17:06
  who
• 17:07
  has
• 17:07
  a
• 17:07
  beautiful
• 17:07
  series
• 17:08
  on
• 17:08
  YouTube
• 17:08
  called
• 17:09
  the
• 17:09
  Wisdom
• 17:09
  of
• 17:09
  the
• 17:09
  Masters.
• 17:10
  Oh,
• 17:11
  that's
• 17:11
  nice.
• 17:11
  You
• 17:12
  can
• 17:12
  listen
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  it
• 17:13
  and
• 17:13
  start
• 17:13
  reading
• 17:13
  it.
• 17:14
  I
• 17:14
  like
• 17:14
  that.
• 17:15
  Yeah,
• 17:16
  maybe
• 17:16
  I'll
• 17:16
  get
• 17:16
  that.
• 17:17
  I
• 17:17
  like
• 17:17
  to
• 17:17
  listen
• 17:18
  these
• 17:18
  days
• 17:18
  instead
• 17:18
  of
• 17:18
  reading.
• 17:19
  Yeah,
• 17:20
  I've
• 17:20
  almost
• 17:20
  stopped
• 17:21
  reading
• 17:21
  Longchenpo,
• 17:22
  which
• 17:22
  was.
• 17:22
  Is
• 17:23
  quite
• 17:23
  saying
• 17:23
  something
• 17:24
  because
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  just.
• 17:24
  It.
• 17:25
  Once
• 17:25
  you
• 17:25
  hear
• 17:26
  it,
• 17:26
  it's
• 17:27
  as
• 17:27
  with
• 17:28
  a
• 17:28
  number
• 17:28
  of
• 17:28
  profound
• 17:29
  teachings,
• 17:29
  it's
• 17:30
  clear
• 17:30
  that
• 17:30
  it's
• 17:31
  designed
• 17:31
  to
• 17:31
  be
• 17:32
  heard.
• 17:32
  It's
• 17:32
  kind
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  poetry.
• 17:33
  So.
• 17:34
  Yeah,
• 17:34
  I'll
• 17:35
  send
• 17:35
  you
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  link.
• 17:35
  We'll
• 17:36
  post
• 17:36
  the
• 17:36
  link
• 17:36
  to
• 17:37
  JSR
• 17:37
  Seminary's
• 17:38
  readings
• 17:39
  of
• 17:39
  Longchamparamna.
• 17:40
  Well,
• 17:41
  many
• 17:41
  teachings
• 17:42
  really
• 17:42
  gave
• 17:42
  detail
• 17:43
  understanding
• 17:44
  or
• 17:44
  elucidation
• 17:45
  of
• 17:46
  the
• 17:46
  Absolute
• 17:47
  and
• 17:47
  its
• 17:48
  emptiness.
• 17:49
  And
• 17:50
  it's
• 17:51
  mysteriousness,
• 17:53
  it's
• 17:53
  mystery
• 17:54
  in
• 17:54
  some
• 17:54
  sense.
• 17:55
  And
• 17:55
  I'm
• 17:56
  calling
• 17:56
  it
• 17:56
  the
• 17:56
  Unmanifest.
• 17:58
  It's
• 17:58
  a
• 17:59
  funny
• 17:59
  thing,
• 17:59
  the
• 18:00
  word
• 18:00
  unmanifest
• 18:01
  to
• 18:02
  say
• 18:02
  unmanifest.
• 18:02
  But
• 18:03
  we
• 18:03
  experience
• 18:03
  it,
• 18:04
  so
• 18:04
  how
• 18:04
  can
• 18:04
  it
• 18:05
  be
• 18:05
  unmanifest?
• 18:06
  Because
• 18:07
  this
• 18:07
  is
• 18:07
  the
• 18:07
  source
• 18:07
  of
• 18:07
  all
• 18:08
  manifestation.
• 18:08
  We
• 18:09
  call
• 18:09
  it
• 18:09
  Unmanifest.
• 18:10
  However,
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  way
• 18:11
  I
• 18:11
  look
• 18:12
  at
• 18:12
  it
• 18:12
  myself
• 18:13
  and
• 18:13
  my
• 18:14
  later
• 18:14
  understanding,
• 18:15
  when
• 18:15
  I
• 18:16
  was
• 18:16
  in
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  middle
• 18:16
  of
• 18:16
  it,
• 18:17
  I
• 18:17
  called
• 18:17
  it
• 18:17
  the
• 18:17
  Unmanifest.
• 18:18
  But
• 18:19
  later,
• 18:19
  upon
• 18:20
  reflection
• 18:20
  and
• 18:20
  having
• 18:21
  different
• 18:21
  kind
• 18:21
  of
• 18:21
  realization,
• 18:22
  I
• 18:22
  said,
• 18:22
  well,
• 18:23
  the
• 18:23
  Absolute
• 18:25
  is
• 18:25
  the
• 18:26
  dimension
• 18:26
  that
• 18:27
  shows
• 18:27
  that
• 18:27
  true
• 18:28
  nature
• 18:28
  is
• 18:28
  unmanifest.
• 18:29
  Doesn't
• 18:30
  mean
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  Absolute
• 18:30
  is
• 18:31
  unmanifest.
• 18:31
  The
• 18:32
  true
• 18:32
  nature,
• 18:32
  fundamentally
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  Unmanifest.
• 18:34
  And
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  Absolute
• 18:35
  reveals
• 18:36
  that.
• 18:37
  So
• 18:38
  it
• 18:38
  is
• 18:38
  the
• 18:38
  Unmanifest
• 18:39
  that
• 18:39
  way.
• 18:41
  And.
• 18:41
  But
• 18:41
  everything
• 18:41
  that's
• 18:42
  manifest
• 18:42
  is
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  Absolute
• 18:44
  also.
• 18:45
  Yeah,
• 18:45
  then,
• 18:46
  yeah,
• 18:47
  because
• 18:47
  everything
• 18:48
  is.
• 18:48
  Yeah,
• 18:49
  everything
• 18:49
  is
• 18:49
  just
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  appearance
• 18:50
  of
• 18:50
  the
• 18:51
  Absolute.
• 18:51
  I
• 18:51
  mean,
• 18:52
  that's
• 18:52
  one
• 18:52
  of
• 18:52
  the.
• 18:53
  My.
• 18:53
  I
• 18:54
  used
• 18:54
  to
• 18:54
  write
• 18:54
  poetry
• 18:55
  about
• 18:55
  this,
• 18:55
  that
• 18:56
  the
• 18:56
  universe
• 18:57
  is
• 18:57
  the
• 18:57
  rope,
• 18:58
  that
• 18:58
  the
• 18:58
  Absolute
• 18:58
  words,
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  glittering
• 19:01
  rope,
• 19:02
  the
• 19:02
  apparel
• 19:03
  of
• 19:03
  God.
• 19:04
  Yeah,
• 19:04
  some
• 19:05
  poets
• 19:05
  might
• 19:05
  say,
• 19:05
  exactly.
• 19:06
  Yeah.
• 19:07
  And
• 19:08
  one
• 19:08
  of
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  things
• 19:08
  you've
• 19:09
  been
• 19:09
  emphasizing
• 19:09
  several
• 19:10
  times
• 19:10
  during
• 19:11
  this
• 19:11
  conversation
• 19:12
  amid
• 19:12
  is
• 19:13
  that
• 19:13
  is
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  fundamentally
• 19:16
  mysterious
• 19:17
  nature
• 19:18
  of
• 19:18
  the
• 19:19
  Absolute.
• 19:19
  And
• 19:19
  you
• 19:20
  keep
• 19:20
  coming
• 19:20
  back
• 19:20
  to
• 19:21
  that.
• 19:21
  Actually.
• 19:22
  You
• 19:22
  have,
• 19:22
  I
• 19:23
  think,
• 19:23
  four
• 19:23
  pages
• 19:24
  on
• 19:24
  the
• 19:24
  Absolute.
• 19:24
  And
• 19:25
  usually
• 19:26
  John
• 19:26
  and
• 19:26
  I
• 19:26
  have
• 19:27
  about
• 19:27
  almost
• 19:27
  as
• 19:28
  many
• 19:28
  pages
• 19:28
  of
• 19:29
  notes
• 19:29
  or
• 19:29
  probably
• 19:29
  even
• 19:29
  some
• 19:30
  kind
• 19:30
  more
• 19:31
  for
• 19:32
  each
• 19:32
  page
• 19:32
  of
• 19:32
  your
• 19:32
  book.
• 19:33
  But
• 19:33
  this
• 19:33
  one,
• 19:34
  I
• 19:35
  didn't.
• 19:35
  I
• 19:35
  didn't
• 19:36
  take
• 19:36
  notes
• 19:36
  because
• 19:37
  it
• 19:37
  was
• 19:37
  like,
• 19:39
  what
• 19:39
  can
• 19:39
  I
• 19:40
  say
• 19:40
  about
• 19:41
  mystery?
• 19:41
  But
• 19:41
  you
• 19:42
  managed
• 19:42
  to
• 19:42
  say
• 19:42
  four
• 19:42
  pages
• 19:43
  worth.
• 19:43
  So
• 19:44
  say
• 19:44
  something.
• 19:45
  Yeah.
• 19:46
  It's,
• 19:46
  it's,
• 19:47
  you
• 19:47
  know,
• 19:48
  first
• 19:48
  we
• 19:49
  think
• 19:50
  that
• 19:50
  it's
• 19:51
  mystery
• 19:51
  because
• 19:51
  I
• 19:52
  don't
• 19:52
  know
• 19:52
  it.
• 19:53
  Mystery
• 19:54
  is
• 19:55
  mystery
• 19:56
  novels,
• 19:56
  you
• 19:56
  know,
• 19:57
  until
• 19:58
  you
• 19:58
  solve
• 19:58
  the
• 19:59
  mystery
• 19:59
  and
• 20:00
  you
• 20:00
  know
• 20:01
  and
• 20:01
  the
• 20:02
  absolutely
• 20:02
  shows
• 20:03
  that
• 20:04
  the
• 20:04
  mystery
• 20:05
  is
• 20:05
  not
• 20:06
  like
• 20:06
  it
• 20:06
  is
• 20:07
  not
• 20:07
  experience,
• 20:08
  but
• 20:09
  it
• 20:09
  is
• 20:10
  essentially
• 20:10
  mystery.
• 20:11
  It
• 20:12
  is
• 20:12
  the
• 20:14
  experience
• 20:14
  of
• 20:14
  the
• 20:15
  mystery
• 20:16
  that
• 20:16
  mystery
• 20:17
  is
• 20:17
  its
• 20:18
  nature.
• 20:19
  It's
• 20:19
  not
• 20:20
  that
• 20:20
  it's
• 20:20
  mystery
• 20:21
  because
• 20:21
  it
• 20:22
  haven't
• 20:22
  glimpsed
• 20:23
  it
• 20:23
  yet.
• 20:23
  No,
• 20:24
  when
• 20:24
  you
• 20:24
  glimpse
• 20:24
  it,
• 20:24
  you
• 20:25
  recognize
• 20:25
  it
• 20:25
  is
• 20:26
  the
• 20:26
  mystery.
• 20:26
  It's
• 20:27
  known
• 20:27
  mystery,
• 20:28
  but
• 20:28
  it's
• 20:28
  still
• 20:28
  mystery.
• 20:29
  It
• 20:29
  is
• 20:29
  mystery,
• 20:30
  but
• 20:30
  it's
• 20:30
  known
• 20:30
  as
• 20:31
  mystery
• 20:31
  because
• 20:31
  it
• 20:32
  is
• 20:32
  mystery.
• 20:33
  Because
• 20:33
  you
• 20:33
  can
• 20:33
  never
• 20:34
  plummet
• 20:35
  depth
• 20:35
  completely.
• 20:38
  There's
• 20:38
  always
• 20:39
  something
• 20:39
  you
• 20:40
  don't
• 20:40
  know
• 20:41
  and
• 20:41
  you
• 20:41
  point
• 20:41
  out.
• 20:42
  We
• 20:42
  can
• 20:42
  say
• 20:42
  many
• 20:42
  things
• 20:43
  about
• 20:43
  it,
• 20:43
  but
• 20:44
  nothing
• 20:46
  even
• 20:46
  approach
• 20:46
  is
• 20:47
  exhausting.
• 20:48
  Yeah,
• 20:48
  the
• 20:49
  thing
• 20:50
  you
• 20:51
  use
• 20:51
  the
• 20:51
  word
• 20:51
  about
• 20:52
  it.
• 20:53
  It's
• 20:53
  not
• 20:53
  an
• 20:53
  it.
• 20:54
  There's
• 20:54
  nothing
• 20:54
  there.
• 20:57
  Yeah,
• 20:58
  it
• 20:58
  refers
• 20:59
  to
• 20:59
  an
• 20:59
  object.
• 21:00
  I
• 21:00
  mean
• 21:01
  it's
• 21:01
  language.
• 21:02
  We
• 21:02
  have
• 21:02
  to
• 21:02
  use
• 21:02
  language.
• 21:03
  But
• 21:03
  it's
• 21:04
  really
• 21:04
  the
• 21:04
  absolute
• 21:05
  is
• 21:05
  really
• 21:06
  the
• 21:06
  elimination,
• 21:07
  the
• 21:07
  annihilation
• 21:08
  and
• 21:08
  the
• 21:08
  cessation
• 21:09
  of
• 21:10
  all
• 21:10
  things.
• 21:11
  And
• 21:11
  it
• 21:11
  is
• 21:11
  really.
• 21:12
  And
• 21:12
  it
• 21:13
  is
• 21:13
  odd,
• 21:14
  you
• 21:14
  know
• 21:14
  that
• 21:15
  that's
• 21:15
  the
• 21:15
  source
• 21:16
  of
• 21:16
  everything
• 21:17
  is
• 21:17
  a.
• 21:18
  Oh,
• 21:19
  it's
• 21:19
  the
• 21:19
  understatement
• 21:20
  of
• 21:20
  the
• 21:20
  day.
• 21:21
  But
• 21:21
  Taoism
• 21:22
  makes
• 21:23
  that
• 21:23
  point.
• 21:23
  You
• 21:24
  know,
• 21:24
  the
• 21:25
  non
• 21:25
  existence
• 21:26
  is
• 21:26
  the
• 21:27
  source
• 21:27
  of
• 21:27
  existence.
• 21:28
  And
• 21:28
  I
• 21:29
  think
• 21:29
  the
• 21:29
  Greeks
• 21:29
  understood
• 21:30
  that
• 21:30
  some
• 21:31
  had
• 21:31
  some
• 21:31
  non
• 21:32
  understanding,
• 21:33
  non
• 21:33
  being
• 21:33
  and
• 21:34
  being.
• 21:34
  I
• 21:34
  mean
• 21:35
  in
• 21:35
  philosophy
• 21:36
  non
• 21:36
  being
• 21:37
  is
• 21:37
  used
• 21:37
  that
• 21:38
  expression
• 21:38
  non
• 21:39
  being.
• 21:39
  And
• 21:40
  they
• 21:40
  don't
• 21:40
  mean
• 21:40
  it
• 21:41
  just
• 21:42
  there's
• 21:42
  nothing
• 21:43
  there.
• 21:43
  You
• 21:43
  know,
• 21:44
  it
• 21:44
  can
• 21:44
  be
• 21:45
  something
• 21:45
  there,
• 21:45
  but
• 21:46
  it's
• 21:46
  nature's
• 21:47
  non
• 21:47
  being.
• 21:48
  Yeah.
• 21:48
  Which
• 21:48
  is
• 21:49
  sort
• 21:49
  of
• 21:49
  a
• 21:50
  contradiction
• 21:51
  in
• 21:52
  ordinary
• 21:52
  language.
• 21:54
  How
• 21:54
  can
• 21:54
  something
• 21:55
  is
• 21:55
  but
• 21:55
  its
• 21:56
  nature
• 21:56
  non
• 21:57
  being
• 21:59
  so
• 22:00
  and
• 22:00
  so
• 22:00
  it's
• 22:01
  paradoxical.
• 22:02
  Experience
• 22:02
  of
• 22:02
  the
• 22:02
  absolute
• 22:03
  is
• 22:03
  for
• 22:04
  the.
• 22:04
  Mind
• 22:04
  is
• 22:04
  paradoxical
• 22:06
  and
• 22:06
  we
• 22:06
  have
• 22:07
  to
• 22:07
  accept
• 22:07
  the
• 22:07
  paradox.
• 22:08
  But
• 22:08
  in
• 22:09
  the
• 22:09
  realization
• 22:10
  it
• 22:10
  is
• 22:10
  known
• 22:11
  beyond
• 22:12
  concepts,
• 22:12
  which
• 22:13
  is
• 22:13
  what
• 22:13
  we're
• 22:13
  trying
• 22:13
  to
• 22:13
  deal
• 22:14
  with
• 22:14
  here.
• 22:14
  I
• 22:14
  mean
• 22:14
  we
• 22:14
  are
• 22:15
  walking
• 22:15
  all
• 22:15
  around
• 22:16
  it
• 22:16
  and
• 22:16
  I
• 22:16
  think
• 22:16
  it's
• 22:17
  been
• 22:17
  an
• 22:17
  amazing
• 22:18
  conversation
• 22:18
  thus
• 22:19
  far.
• 22:19
  But
• 22:21
  we're
• 22:21
  kind
• 22:21
  of
• 22:21
  walking
• 22:21
  around
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  edges
• 22:22
  and
• 22:22
  exploring
• 22:23
  the
• 22:23
  mystery.
• 22:23
  The
• 22:24
  more
• 22:24
  we
• 22:24
  get
• 22:24
  into
• 22:24
  it,
• 22:25
  the
• 22:25
  more
• 22:25
  it
• 22:26
  sort
• 22:26
  of
• 22:27
  dissolves,
• 22:28
  eats
• 22:28
  out
• 22:29
  everything
• 22:30
  from
• 22:30
  inside
• 22:30
  out.
• 22:32
  Like
• 22:33
  you,
• 22:33
  you
• 22:33
  are
• 22:34
  sort
• 22:34
  of
• 22:35
  annihilated
• 22:36
  from
• 22:36
  the
• 22:36
  inside
• 22:37
  out
• 22:38
  until
• 22:39
  the
• 22:40
  outside
• 22:40
  is
• 22:41
  becomes
• 22:41
  even
• 22:42
  the
• 22:42
  universe
• 22:42
  at
• 22:43
  life.
• 22:43
  Yes.
• 22:45
  Yeah.
• 22:46
  And
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  Gospel
• 22:47
  of
• 22:47
  Thomas,
• 22:47
  Jesus,
• 22:48
  that's
• 22:48
  the
• 22:48
  one
• 22:48
  they
• 22:48
  found
• 22:48
  a
• 22:49
  few
• 22:49
  years
• 22:49
  back.
• 22:49
  Jesus
• 22:50
  said
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  the
• 22:51
  kingdom
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  God
• 22:51
  is
• 22:51
  within
• 22:52
  you
• 22:52
  and
• 22:53
  without
• 22:53
  you,
• 22:54
  which
• 22:54
  it
• 22:55
  doesn't
• 22:55
  say
• 22:55
  in
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  accepted
• 22:56
  gospel.
• 22:56
  So
• 22:57
  it
• 22:58
  starts
• 22:58
  Inside
• 22:58
  you,
• 22:58
  but
• 22:59
  then
• 22:59
  it's,
• 23:00
  it's
• 23:00
  outside
• 23:00
  you.
• 23:01
  It's
• 23:01
  everything
• 23:01
  else.
• 23:02
  Not
• 23:02
  else.
• 23:02
  It's
• 23:02
  just
• 23:03
  everything
• 23:03
  from
• 23:04
  a
• 23:04
  perspective.
• 23:04
  Absolute
• 23:05
  everything
• 23:06
  in
• 23:06
  the
• 23:06
  kingdom
• 23:06
  of
• 23:06
  God.
• 23:07
  That's
• 23:08
  right.
• 23:08
  Everything
• 23:09
  is
• 23:09
  a
• 23:09
  beauty.
• 23:10
  Everything
• 23:10
  is
• 23:10
  majesty,
• 23:11
  Everything
• 23:11
  is
• 23:12
  pure.
• 23:12
  Although
• 23:13
  on
• 23:13
  the
• 23:14
  ordinary
• 23:15
  level,
• 23:15
  there's
• 23:15
  impurity,
• 23:17
  aggression
• 23:17
  and,
• 23:18
  you
• 23:18
  know,
• 23:19
  tyranny,
• 23:20
  inequality,
• 23:22
  all
• 23:22
  of
• 23:22
  that.
• 23:22
  But
• 23:23
  from
• 23:23
  the
• 23:24
  deeper
• 23:24
  level
• 23:24
  of
• 23:24
  the
• 23:24
  absolute,
• 23:25
  everything
• 23:26
  is.
• 23:26
  Nature
• 23:26
  is
• 23:27
  completely
• 23:27
  pure,
• 23:28
  100%
• 23:29
  pure.
• 23:29
  Because
• 23:29
  there's
• 23:30
  nothing
• 23:30
  there.
• 23:31
  Yeah,
• 23:32
  it's
• 23:32
  the,
• 23:33
  the
• 23:33
  extreme
• 23:34
  limit
• 23:34
  of
• 23:34
  purity.
• 23:35
  Yes.
• 23:36
  It's
• 23:36
  so
• 23:37
  pure
• 23:37
  because
• 23:37
  there's
• 23:38
  nothing
• 23:38
  there
• 23:39
  completely.
• 23:39
  You
• 23:40
  remove
• 23:40
  impurities,
• 23:41
  you
• 23:41
  remove
• 23:42
  impurity
• 23:42
  until
• 23:42
  there's
• 23:43
  nothing
• 23:43
  there
• 23:43
  to
• 23:43
  remove.
• 23:44
  And
• 23:44
  it's
• 23:45
  like
• 23:46
  even
• 23:47
  being,
• 23:47
  even
• 23:48
  existence,
• 23:49
  even
• 23:49
  awareness,
• 23:49
  even
• 23:50
  consciousness,
• 23:50
  even
• 23:51
  soul,
• 23:51
  even
• 23:52
  everything
• 23:52
  is
• 23:52
  gone.
• 23:53
  Jesus
• 23:54
  said,
• 23:54
  blessed
• 23:55
  are
• 23:55
  the
• 23:55
  pure
• 23:55
  in
• 23:55
  heart,
• 23:56
  for
• 23:56
  they
• 23:56
  shall
• 23:56
  see
• 23:57
  God.
• 23:58
  Pure
• 23:58
  of
• 23:59
  heart,
• 23:59
  mean
• 23:59
  heart
• 24:00
  that
• 24:00
  is
• 24:00
  empty
• 24:02
  of
• 24:02
  everything
• 24:03
  except
• 24:03
  the
• 24:03
  love
• 24:04
  of
• 24:04
  God.
• 24:05
  Anita,
• 24:07
  I
• 24:07
  couldn't
• 24:08
  take
• 24:08
  notes
• 24:09
  on
• 24:09
  this
• 24:09
  section,
• 24:10
  but
• 24:10
  it
• 24:11
  did
• 24:11
  bring
• 24:11
  to
• 24:11
  mind
• 24:12
  a
• 24:12
  couple
• 24:12
  of
• 24:12
  my
• 24:13
  all
• 24:13
  time
• 24:13
  favorite
• 24:14
  quotes.
• 24:15
  One
• 24:15
  by
• 24:16
  Houston
• 24:17
  Smith,
• 24:17
  the
• 24:18
  great
• 24:18
  religious
• 24:19
  scholar.
• 24:19
  Yeah.
• 24:20
  And
• 24:20
  you
• 24:20
  were
• 24:20
  still
• 24:20
  young.
• 24:21
  Yeah.
• 24:22
  Yes,
• 24:22
  he
• 24:22
  was
• 24:22
  a
• 24:23
  dear
• 24:24
  friend
• 24:24
  and
• 24:24
  mentor
• 24:25
  for
• 24:25
  me.
• 24:25
  He
• 24:26
  used
• 24:26
  to
• 24:26
  be
• 24:26
  our
• 24:26
  neighbor
• 24:27
  two
• 24:27
  blocks
• 24:27
  away.
• 24:28
  Ah,
• 24:28
  okay.
• 24:29
  Well,
• 24:30
  I've
• 24:30
  been
• 24:30
  past
• 24:30
  your
• 24:31
  place
• 24:31
  many
• 24:31
  times
• 24:31
  then.
• 24:33
  And
• 24:33
  he
• 24:33
  published
• 24:33
  his
• 24:34
  autobiography
• 24:35
  on
• 24:35
  his
• 24:35
  90th
• 24:35
  birthday,
• 24:36
  which
• 24:36
  is
• 24:36
  probably
• 24:36
  a
• 24:37
  great
• 24:37
  time
• 24:37
  to
• 24:37
  publish
• 24:38
  one's
• 24:38
  autobiography.
• 24:41
  And
• 24:41
  the
• 24:41
  last
• 24:42
  lines
• 24:42
  of
• 24:42
  this,
• 24:43
  his
• 24:43
  autobiography,
• 24:44
  here's
• 24:44
  one
• 24:44
  of
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  great
• 24:46
  masters
• 24:46
  of
• 24:47
  the
• 24:47
  world's
• 24:47
  wisdom.
• 24:48
  Yeah.
• 24:48
  The
• 24:49
  last
• 24:49
  sentences
• 24:50
  of
• 24:50
  his
• 24:50
  autobiography
• 24:51
  are,
• 24:52
  we
• 24:52
  are
• 24:53
  born
• 24:53
  in
• 24:53
  mystery,
• 24:54
  we
• 24:54
  live
• 24:54
  in
• 24:54
  mystery,
• 24:55
  and
• 24:55
  we
• 24:55
  die
• 24:56
  in
• 24:56
  mystery.
• 24:57
  I
• 24:58
  think.
• 24:58
  Very
• 24:58
  true.
• 24:58
  Yeah.
• 24:59
  One
• 25:00
  thing
• 25:00
  about
• 25:01
  mystery,
• 25:02
  mystery
• 25:02
  is
• 25:02
  the
• 25:03
  fundamental
• 25:03
  nature
• 25:04
  of
• 25:04
  everything,
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  underlying
• 25:05
  nature.
• 25:06
  But
• 25:07
  also
• 25:08
  mystery
• 25:09
  is
• 25:10
  like
• 25:11
  we
• 25:12
  live
• 25:12
  in
• 25:12
  an
• 25:12
  ocean
• 25:12
  of
• 25:13
  mystery
• 25:14
  and
• 25:14
  what
• 25:14
  we
• 25:15
  know
• 25:15
  are
• 25:16
  little
• 25:17
  islands.
• 25:18
  You
• 25:19
  know,
• 25:21
  most
• 25:21
  people,
• 25:21
  their
• 25:22
  mind
• 25:22
  is
• 25:22
  full
• 25:22
  of
• 25:22
  knowing,
• 25:23
  information,
• 25:24
  misinformation,
• 25:25
  all
• 25:25
  of
• 25:25
  that.
• 25:26
  I
• 25:26
  mean,
• 25:26
  they
• 25:26
  think
• 25:26
  they
• 25:26
  know
• 25:27
  and
• 25:27
  most
• 25:27
  people
• 25:28
  think
• 25:28
  they
• 25:28
  know
• 25:28
  where
• 25:29
  it's
• 25:29
  at,
• 25:29
  what's
• 25:30
  happening,
• 25:30
  what
• 25:30
  life
• 25:30
  is
• 25:31
  about.
• 25:32
  It's
• 25:32
  actually
• 25:33
  miniscule.
• 25:35
  It's
• 25:35
  a
• 25:35
  little
• 25:36
  island
• 25:37
  in
• 25:37
  darkness
• 25:38
  or
• 25:38
  complete
• 25:39
  mystery,
• 25:40
  you
• 25:40
  know,
• 25:41
  but
• 25:41
  that
• 25:42
  doesn't
• 25:42
  mean
• 25:42
  there's
• 25:43
  something
• 25:43
  wrong
• 25:43
  with,
• 25:44
  you
• 25:44
  know,
• 25:45
  that
• 25:45
  there's
• 25:46
  mystery.
• 25:46
  No,
• 25:46
  mystery
• 25:47
  is
• 25:47
  the
• 25:47
  nature
• 25:47
  of
• 25:47
  things,
• 25:48
  the
• 25:48
  nature
• 25:48
  of
• 25:48
  reality.
• 25:50
  You
• 25:50
  know,
• 25:51
  it
• 25:51
  cannot
• 25:51
  be
• 25:51
  eliminated.
• 25:53
  It's
• 25:53
  not
• 25:54
  like
• 25:54
  we're
• 25:54
  gonna
• 25:54
  know.
• 25:56
  At
• 25:56
  some
• 25:56
  point.
• 25:57
  Humanity
• 25:57
  will
• 25:58
  know
• 25:58
  everything.
• 25:58
  There'll
• 25:59
  be
• 25:59
  no
• 25:59
  mystery.
• 26:00
  No,
• 26:00
  mystery
• 26:01
  is
• 26:01
  fundamental.
• 26:04
  Yeah.
• 26:04
  That
• 26:04
  was
• 26:05
  a
• 26:05
  very
• 26:05
  important
• 26:06
  moment
• 26:06
  for
• 26:06
  me.
• 26:07
  I
• 26:07
  mean,
• 26:07
  I
• 26:07
  still
• 26:07
  remember
• 26:08
  being
• 26:08
  in
• 26:08
  my.
• 26:09
  Sitting
• 26:09
  on
• 26:09
  the
• 26:09
  couch
• 26:09
  in
• 26:10
  the
• 26:10
  living
• 26:10
  room
• 26:11
  and
• 26:11
  this
• 26:12
  being
• 26:12
  aware
• 26:13
  of
• 26:13
  this
• 26:13
  vague
• 26:14
  unease
• 26:15
  and
• 26:15
  recognizing
• 26:16
  it
• 26:16
  was
• 26:16
  around,
• 26:16
  but
• 26:17
  it
• 26:17
  was
• 26:17
  centered
• 26:18
  on
• 26:18
  the
• 26:18
  fact
• 26:18
  that
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  didn't
• 26:19
  seem
• 26:19
  to
• 26:19
  understand
• 26:19
  anything.
• 26:20
  Then
• 26:21
  the
• 26:21
  next
• 26:21
  moment
• 26:21
  I
• 26:22
  realized,
• 26:22
  oh,
• 26:23
  that's
• 26:23
  not
• 26:23
  a
• 26:24
  problem.
• 26:24
  That's
• 26:24
  the
• 26:24
  way
• 26:24
  it
• 26:25
  is.
• 26:26
  That
• 26:26
  was
• 26:26
  such
• 26:26
  a
• 26:26
  relief.
• 26:31
  Yeah,
• 26:32
  it's
• 26:32
  true.
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  mean,
• 26:33
  we
• 26:33
  talk
• 26:34
  about.
• 26:34
  People
• 26:34
  are
• 26:35
  ignorant
• 26:36
  in
• 26:36
  general
• 26:37
  when
• 26:37
  they
• 26:37
  don't
• 26:38
  know
• 26:38
  about
• 26:38
  realization
• 26:39
  or
• 26:39
  spiritual
• 26:40
  truth.
• 26:41
  But
• 26:41
  even
• 26:42
  the
• 26:42
  ones
• 26:42
  who
• 26:42
  know.
• 26:43
  And
• 26:44
  then
• 26:44
  knowledge
• 26:44
  is
• 26:45
  minuscule.
• 26:47
  Well,
• 26:47
  what
• 26:47
  you
• 26:48
  just
• 26:48
  said
• 26:48
  a
• 26:48
  few
• 26:48
  minutes
• 26:49
  ago
• 26:49
  just
• 26:49
  really
• 26:50
  got
• 26:50
  to
• 26:50
  me.
• 26:51
  Like
• 26:51
  words
• 26:52
  fail
• 26:52
  me.
• 26:52
  But
• 26:52
  you
• 26:52
  said
• 26:52
  everything
• 26:53
  is
• 26:53
  absent
• 26:54
  except
• 26:54
  love.
• 26:55
  Yeah.
• 26:55
  In
• 26:56
  the
• 26:56
  heart.
• 26:56
  Yeah.
• 26:57
  Yeah.
• 26:57
  So
• 26:58
  in
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  heart
• 26:58
  and
• 26:59
  the
• 26:59
  movement
• 26:59
  or
• 26:59
  the
• 27:00
  absolute,
• 27:00
  everything,
• 27:01
  the
• 27:01
  absence.
• 27:01
  Because
• 27:02
  all
• 27:02
  other
• 27:02
  beloved,
• 27:03
  everything
• 27:03
  else
• 27:04
  we
• 27:04
  care
• 27:04
  about
• 27:04
  is
• 27:05
  gone,
• 27:06
  but
• 27:06
  remains
• 27:07
  only
• 27:08
  the
• 27:08
  passionate
• 27:09
  love
• 27:10
  for
• 27:10
  the
• 27:10
  beloved,
• 27:11
  which
• 27:11
  we
• 27:11
  don't
• 27:12
  know
• 27:12
  what
• 27:12
  it
• 27:12
  is
• 27:12
  until
• 27:13
  finally,
• 27:14
  when
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  heart
• 27:14
  is
• 27:15
  completely
• 27:15
  pure,
• 27:16
  it
• 27:17
  appears
• 27:19
  and
• 27:19
  occupies
• 27:20
  its
• 27:20
  place.
• 27:22
  The
• 27:22
  heart
• 27:23
  becomes
• 27:23
  like
• 27:23
  the
• 27:24
  throne
• 27:24
  upon
• 27:24
  which
• 27:25
  the
• 27:25
  majesty
• 27:26
  sits.
• 27:27
  What
• 27:28
  a
• 27:28
  beautiful
• 27:28
  description.
• 27:31
  Another
• 27:32
  thing,
• 27:32
  you
• 27:32
  know,
• 27:32
  important
• 27:33
  to
• 27:33
  mention
• 27:34
  in
• 27:34
  relation
• 27:34
  to
• 27:35
  the
• 27:35
  Absolute.
• 27:36
  Why
• 27:36
  it
• 27:36
  is
• 27:36
  the
• 27:37
  sort
• 27:37
  of
• 27:38
  acme
• 27:39
  of
• 27:39
  this,
• 27:40
  the
• 27:40
  apex
• 27:41
  of
• 27:41
  all
• 27:42
  spiritual
• 27:42
  teaching
• 27:43
  is
• 27:44
  that
• 27:45
  in
• 27:46
  the
• 27:46
  Absolute,
• 27:47
  the
• 27:47
  search
• 27:48
  ends.
• 27:50
  We.
• 27:51
  I
• 27:51
  don't
• 27:51
  mean
• 27:51
  search
• 27:52
  and
• 27:53
  meaning.
• 27:53
  You
• 27:53
  believe.
• 27:54
  Oh,
• 27:54
  I
• 27:54
  got
• 27:54
  it.
• 27:55
  So
• 27:56
  I
• 27:56
  don't
• 27:56
  need
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  search
• 27:57
  anymore.
• 27:57
  No.
• 27:58
  The
• 27:58
  energy
• 27:59
  of
• 27:59
  search
• 27:59
  disappears,
• 28:01
  ceases.
• 28:02
  The
• 28:02
  absolute
• 28:02
  annihilates
• 28:03
  the
• 28:04
  energy
• 28:05
  because
• 28:05
  the
• 28:05
  search
• 28:06
  was
• 28:06
  nothing.
• 28:07
  But
• 28:07
  the
• 28:07
  distance
• 28:07
  from
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  absolute
• 28:08
  makes
• 28:09
  me
• 28:09
  want
• 28:09
  to
• 28:09
  go
• 28:10
  look
• 28:11
  for
• 28:11
  it.
• 28:11
  When
• 28:12
  you're
• 28:12
  there,
• 28:13
  there's
• 28:14
  no
• 28:14
  energy
• 28:14
  to
• 28:15
  search.
• 28:15
  So
• 28:16
  the
• 28:16
  search
• 28:17
  end.
• 28:17
  And
• 28:18
  from
• 28:18
  then
• 28:19
  on,
• 28:19
  whatever
• 28:20
  happens
• 28:21
  after
• 28:21
  that,
• 28:21
  there's
• 28:21
  no
• 28:22
  search.
• 28:22
  Things
• 28:22
  happen
• 28:23
  on
• 28:23
  their
• 28:23
  own.
• 28:24
  At
• 28:24
  the
• 28:24
  end
• 28:24
  of
• 28:24
  this
• 28:25
  chapter,
• 28:25
  you
• 28:25
  talk
• 28:25
  about
• 28:26
  coming
• 28:26
  home.
• 28:28
  Yeah,
• 28:28
  that's
• 28:28
  what
• 28:28
  you
• 28:28
  were
• 28:29
  saying.
• 28:29
  Yes.
• 28:30
  Like
• 28:31
  from
• 28:31
  the
• 28:32
  perspective
• 28:32
  of
• 28:32
  the
• 28:32
  soul,
• 28:33
  that
• 28:33
  is
• 28:34
  its
• 28:34
  final
• 28:35
  resting
• 28:35
  place.
• 28:37
  Like
• 28:37
  how
• 28:37
  when
• 28:38
  we
• 28:38
  get
• 28:38
  home,
• 28:38
  we
• 28:39
  feel
• 28:39
  well,
• 28:39
  we
• 28:39
  are
• 28:39
  at
• 28:40
  rest,
• 28:40
  we
• 28:40
  can
• 28:40
  relax,
• 28:41
  we
• 28:41
  take
• 28:41
  it
• 28:41
  easy.
• 28:43
  That's
• 28:44
  for
• 28:44
  the
• 28:44
  soul.
• 28:44
  That
• 28:45
  is
• 28:45
  the
• 28:45
  home.
• 28:46
  I
• 28:46
  mean,
• 28:46
  you
• 28:47
  realize
• 28:47
  that
• 28:48
  the
• 28:48
  word
• 28:48
  home
• 28:49
  actually
• 28:50
  means
• 28:51
  something
• 28:51
  deep.
• 28:52
  You
• 28:52
  know,
• 28:53
  home
• 28:53
  is
• 28:53
  not
• 28:53
  just
• 28:54
  a
• 28:54
  house.
• 28:55
  Home
• 28:55
  is
• 28:56
  the
• 28:56
  place
• 28:56
  of
• 28:57
  no
• 28:57
  worry,
• 28:57
  no
• 28:57
  concern,
• 28:59
  complete
• 28:59
  safety,
• 29:00
  complete
• 29:01
  trust
• 29:01
  and
• 29:01
  relaxation.
• 29:02
  It's
• 29:03
  all
• 29:03
  okay.
• 29:03
  It's
• 29:03
  all
• 29:04
  okay.
• 29:04
  All
• 29:05
  okay
• 29:05
  and
• 29:06
  all
• 29:06
  good
• 29:06
  and
• 29:07
  all.
• 29:08
  No
• 29:08
  effort
• 29:09
  need
• 29:09
  to
• 29:09
  be
• 29:09
  made.
• 29:10
  And,
• 29:11
  you
• 29:11
  know,
• 29:12
  so
• 29:12
  it
• 29:12
  is
• 29:13
  the
• 29:13
  true
• 29:13
  home.
• 29:14
  I
• 29:14
  think
• 29:14
  that
• 29:15
  it's
• 29:16
  the
• 29:16
  essence
• 29:16
  of
• 29:16
  the
• 29:17
  meaning
• 29:17
  of
• 29:17
  home.
• 29:18
  When
• 29:18
  you
• 29:18
  feel
• 29:19
  it,
• 29:19
  when
• 29:19
  we
• 29:19
  are
• 29:19
  at
• 29:19
  home,
• 29:20
  you
• 29:20
  have
• 29:20
  a
• 29:20
  feeling
• 29:20
  I'm
• 29:21
  at
• 29:21
  home.
• 29:21
  What
• 29:21
  does
• 29:21
  that
• 29:21
  mean?
• 29:22
  Yes,
• 29:23
  because
• 29:23
  home
• 29:23
  is
• 29:24
  not
• 29:24
  equated
• 29:25
  with
• 29:25
  a
• 29:25
  house.
• 29:25
  When
• 29:25
  you
• 29:26
  feel
• 29:26
  I'm
• 29:26
  at
• 29:26
  home,
• 29:26
  what
• 29:27
  does
• 29:27
  that
• 29:27
  mean?
• 29:28
  Doesn't
• 29:28
  mean
• 29:28
  I'm
• 29:28
  at
• 29:29
  house
• 29:29
  or
• 29:30
  my
• 29:30
  apartment,
• 29:30
  no
• 29:31
  feeling
• 29:32
  I
• 29:32
  am
• 29:32
  at
• 29:32
  home.
• 29:33
  And
• 29:33
  that
• 29:33
  comes
• 29:34
  from
• 29:34
  the
• 29:34
  absolute.
• 29:35
  And
• 29:35
  you
• 29:36
  make
• 29:36
  the
• 29:36
  point
• 29:36
  amid
• 29:37
  that,
• 29:38
  with
• 29:38
  that
• 29:38
  realization
• 29:39
  of
• 29:40
  being
• 29:40
  at
• 29:40
  home
• 29:40
  and
• 29:41
  the
• 29:41
  utter
• 29:42
  fullness,
• 29:42
  satisfaction,
• 29:44
  well,
• 29:44
  being
• 29:45
  that
• 29:45
  goes
• 29:45
  with
• 29:46
  it.
• 29:46
  There's
• 29:47
  the
• 29:47
  realization
• 29:48
  that
• 29:48
  one's
• 29:48
  entire
• 29:49
  life
• 29:49
  up
• 29:49
  till
• 29:50
  that
• 29:50
  point
• 29:50
  has
• 29:50
  been
• 29:51
  a
• 29:52
  search
• 29:52
  for
• 29:53
  that
• 29:53
  even
• 29:53
  though
• 29:54
  we
• 29:55
  didn't
• 29:55
  realize
• 29:55
  it,
• 29:56
  everything
• 29:56
  was
• 29:56
  at
• 29:57
  some
• 29:57
  level
• 29:57
  powered
• 29:58
  by
• 29:58
  the
• 29:59
  desire
• 30:00
  to
• 30:00
  find
• 30:00
  this
• 30:01
  home.
• 30:01
  Yeah,
• 30:03
  very
• 30:03
  good.
• 30:04
  That
• 30:04
  what
• 30:05
  many
• 30:05
  teachings
• 30:06
  also
• 30:06
  say
• 30:07
  and
• 30:07
  that
• 30:08
  all
• 30:08
  humans
• 30:09
  are
• 30:09
  searching
• 30:09
  for
• 30:09
  it.
• 30:11
  All
• 30:11
  living
• 30:12
  being
• 30:12
  are
• 30:12
  searching
• 30:13
  for
• 30:13
  their
• 30:14
  true
• 30:14
  home.
• 30:15
  But
• 30:15
  they
• 30:15
  don't
• 30:15
  know.
• 30:16
  They
• 30:16
  search
• 30:16
  in
• 30:16
  many
• 30:17
  other
• 30:17
  many
• 30:17
  places.
• 30:19
  No,
• 30:19
  they
• 30:19
  search,
• 30:20
  search
• 30:21
  and
• 30:21
  outer
• 30:22
  satisfaction.
• 30:23
  Search
• 30:24
  and
• 30:25
  riches
• 30:26
  and
• 30:27
  comfort
• 30:28
  and
• 30:28
  pleasure
• 30:29
  and
• 30:30
  fame
• 30:31
  and
• 30:31
  this
• 30:32
  and
• 30:32
  that.
• 30:33
  And
• 30:33
  I
• 30:34
  mean
• 30:34
  there's
• 30:34
  so
• 30:34
  many
• 30:34
  stories
• 30:35
  how
• 30:35
  people
• 30:35
  get
• 30:36
  disappointed
• 30:36
  doesn't
• 30:37
  do
• 30:37
  it
• 30:37
  and
• 30:38
  that.
• 30:39
  And
• 30:40
  you
• 30:41
  ever
• 30:41
  hear
• 30:41
  somebody
• 30:42
  who's
• 30:42
  a
• 30:42
  billionaire
• 30:42
  who
• 30:43
  says
• 30:43
  I
• 30:44
  am
• 30:44
  completely
• 30:45
  fulfilled.
• 30:46
  Well,
• 30:46
  I
• 30:46
  need
• 30:46
  another
• 30:46
  billion.
• 30:49
  They
• 30:49
  might
• 30:49
  think
• 30:50
  that
• 30:52
  if
• 30:52
  I
• 30:52
  get
• 30:52
  a
• 30:52
  trillion,
• 30:53
  maybe
• 30:54
  I'll
• 30:54
  be
• 30:54
  completely
• 30:55
  fulfilled.
• 30:58
  That's
• 30:58
  why
• 30:58
  the
• 30:59
  spiritual
• 30:59
  teaching
• 30:59
  says,
• 31:00
  yeah,
• 31:00
  good,
• 31:01
  be
• 31:01
  fulfilled.
• 31:02
  Other,
• 31:02
  but
• 31:03
  you're
• 31:03
  not
• 31:03
  going
• 31:04
  to
• 31:04
  be
• 31:04
  complete.
• 31:05
  Move
• 31:05
  inward.
• 31:06
  Yeah,
• 31:07
  well,
• 31:08
  it
• 31:08
  seems
• 31:08
  like
• 31:09
  you
• 31:09
  can
• 31:09
  never
• 31:09
  get
• 31:09
  enough
• 31:10
  of
• 31:10
  what
• 31:10
  you
• 31:10
  don't
• 31:10
  really
• 31:11
  want.
• 31:11
  But
• 31:11
  you
• 31:12
  can
• 31:12
  certainly
• 31:12
  ruin
• 31:12
  your
• 31:13
  life
• 31:13
  and
• 31:13
  the
• 31:13
  planet.
• 31:14
  Try
• 31:15
  you
• 31:15
  can.
• 31:16
  Yes,
• 31:16
  that's
• 31:16
  what's
• 31:17
  happening.
• 31:18
  Yeah,
• 31:18
  yeah.
• 31:19
  I
• 31:19
  love
• 31:20
  what
• 31:20
  you
• 31:20
  said
• 31:20
  about
• 31:20
  home.
• 31:21
  That's
• 31:21
  so
• 31:22
  powerful
• 31:22
  for
• 31:22
  me
• 31:23
  because
• 31:23
  I've
• 31:23
  been
• 31:23
  at
• 31:23
  a
• 31:23
  time
• 31:24
  where
• 31:24
  I
• 31:24
  thought
• 31:24
  I
• 31:24
  lost
• 31:24
  my
• 31:25
  home
• 31:25
  and
• 31:26
  it
• 31:26
  was
• 31:26
  a
• 31:26
  place.
• 31:27
  But
• 31:28
  yeah,
• 31:28
  when
• 31:29
  I.
• 31:29
  When
• 31:29
  I
• 31:29
  think
• 31:29
  of
• 31:30
  home
• 31:30
  as
• 31:30
  being
• 31:31
  inside
• 31:33
  and
• 31:33
  hence
• 31:34
  everywhere,
• 31:35
  I'm
• 31:36
  at
• 31:36
  home.
• 31:36
  And
• 31:37
  that
• 31:37
  is.
• 31:37
  This
• 31:38
  is
• 31:38
  very
• 31:38
  beautiful,
• 31:38
  very
• 31:39
  powerful,
• 31:39
  very
• 31:39
  comforting.
• 31:40
  It's
• 31:41
  very
• 31:41
  comfortable
• 31:41
  and
• 31:42
  many
• 31:42
  people
• 31:43
  know
• 31:43
  that
• 31:44
  somewhat.
• 31:46
  But
• 31:46
  they
• 31:47
  don't
• 31:47
  like
• 31:47
  if
• 31:47
  their
• 31:48
  house
• 31:49
  is
• 31:49
  burnt.
• 31:49
  Whatever
• 31:50
  they
• 31:50
  feel
• 31:50
  they
• 31:50
  lost
• 31:51
  their
• 31:51
  home
• 31:51
  and
• 31:52
  they
• 31:52
  think
• 31:52
  of
• 31:52
  it
• 31:52
  as
• 31:53
  the
• 31:53
  loss
• 31:54
  of
• 31:54
  their
• 31:54
  memory,
• 31:54
  Libya
• 31:55
  and
• 31:55
  their
• 31:56
  history,
• 31:56
  their
• 31:57
  objects,
• 31:58
  their
• 31:59
  precious
• 31:59
  thing,
• 31:59
  their
• 32:00
  photos,
• 32:01
  whatever.
• 32:01
  They
• 32:02
  think
• 32:02
  that's
• 32:02
  what
• 32:02
  their
• 32:03
  history
• 32:03
  that
• 32:03
  they're
• 32:04
  living
• 32:04
  there.
• 32:04
  They
• 32:05
  think
• 32:05
  that's
• 32:05
  what
• 32:05
  makes
• 32:05
  it
• 32:06
  home.
• 32:07
  But
• 32:07
  home,
• 32:08
  really
• 32:08
  the
• 32:08
  feeling
• 32:09
  of
• 32:09
  home
• 32:09
  comes
• 32:09
  from
• 32:10
  something
• 32:10
  much
• 32:10
  deeper.
• 32:12
  That's
• 32:12
  what
• 32:12
  we
• 32:12
  see
• 32:13
  here,
• 32:13
  that
• 32:13
  home
• 32:13
  is
• 32:14
  everywhere.
• 32:15
  If
• 32:15
  you
• 32:15
  are
• 32:15
  in
• 32:15
  touch
• 32:16
  with
• 32:16
  the
• 32:16
  absolute
• 32:17
  nature
• 32:19
  you
• 32:19
  take
• 32:19
  home
• 32:20
  with
• 32:20
  you
• 32:20
  wherever
• 32:20
  you
• 32:21
  go.
• 32:22
  Home
• 32:22
  is
• 32:22
  in
• 32:22
  the
• 32:22
  heart.
• 32:23
  Almost
• 32:24
  everyone
• 32:25
  that
• 32:25
  depth
• 32:26
  of
• 32:26
  the
• 32:26
  heart.
• 32:26
  At
• 32:26
  home
• 32:28
  you
• 32:29
  make
• 32:29
  a
• 32:29
  point
• 32:29
  which
• 32:31
  is,
• 32:32
  I
• 32:32
  don't
• 32:33
  doubt,
• 32:33
  but
• 32:33
  I
• 32:33
  also
• 32:34
  have
• 32:34
  trouble
• 32:34
  wrapping
• 32:35
  my
• 32:35
  head
• 32:35
  around.
• 32:35
  And
• 32:36
  that
• 32:36
  is
• 32:36
  that
• 32:37
  everything,
• 32:39
  every
• 32:39
  pleasure
• 32:40
  and
• 32:41
  satisfaction
• 32:42
  that
• 32:43
  we
• 32:44
  find
• 32:44
  through
• 32:45
  manifest
• 32:46
  phenomena
• 32:46
  through
• 32:47
  things,
• 32:47
  whether
• 32:47
  it's
• 32:48
  money,
• 32:48
  power,
• 32:48
  whatever
• 32:49
  it
• 32:49
  Is
• 32:50
  in
• 32:50
  some
• 32:51
  way
• 32:52
  the
• 32:52
  satisfaction
• 32:53
  comes
• 32:53
  from
• 32:54
  it
• 32:55
  being
• 32:55
  a
• 32:56
  reflection
• 32:57
  or
• 32:57
  a
• 32:58
  taste
• 32:59
  of
• 32:59
  the
• 32:59
  absolute
• 33:00
  love.
• 33:01
  To
• 33:01
  hear
• 33:01
  you
• 33:01
  explain
• 33:02
  that.
• 33:02
  Yeah.
• 33:02
  I
• 33:03
  mean
• 33:03
  many
• 33:03
  of
• 33:03
  the
• 33:03
  things
• 33:04
  we
• 33:04
  find
• 33:04
  in
• 33:04
  the
• 33:04
  world
• 33:05
  they
• 33:05
  are
• 33:05
  reflection
• 33:06
  of
• 33:06
  some
• 33:07
  sense.
• 33:08
  You
• 33:08
  know,
• 33:09
  like
• 33:10
  when
• 33:10
  we
• 33:10
  are
• 33:11
  in
• 33:11
  love,
• 33:11
  we
• 33:11
  love
• 33:12
  somebody
• 33:12
  and
• 33:12
  we
• 33:12
  feel
• 33:13
  sort
• 33:13
  of
• 33:13
  contented
• 33:14
  and
• 33:15
  happy
• 33:15
  to
• 33:16
  be
• 33:16
  with
• 33:16
  them.
• 33:17
  We're
• 33:17
  really
• 33:18
  seeing
• 33:19
  the
• 33:19
  inner
• 33:20
  beloved,
• 33:21
  but
• 33:22
  not
• 33:22
  directly
• 33:23
  we're
• 33:23
  seeing
• 33:23
  an
• 33:23
  expression
• 33:24
  of
• 33:24
  it.
• 33:24
  But
• 33:25
  that
• 33:25
  brings
• 33:25
  us
• 33:26
  closer
• 33:26
  that
• 33:26
  oh
• 33:27
  it's
• 33:27
  so
• 33:27
  perfect,
• 33:27
  so
• 33:28
  beautiful.
• 33:29
  Well,
• 33:29
  I
• 33:29
  mean
• 33:30
  most
• 33:30
  people
• 33:30
  look
• 33:30
  at
• 33:30
  that
• 33:31
  person,
• 33:31
  they
• 33:31
  don't
• 33:31
  think
• 33:32
  so.
• 33:36
  You
• 33:37
  see
• 33:37
  what
• 33:38
  are
• 33:38
  you
• 33:38
  seeing
• 33:38
  when
• 33:38
  you.
• 33:39
  You
• 33:40
  really
• 33:40
  see,
• 33:41
  but
• 33:41
  you
• 33:41
  don't
• 33:41
  know
• 33:42
  you're
• 33:42
  seeing.
• 33:42
  Liber.
• 33:45
  You
• 33:46
  talk
• 33:46
  about
• 33:46
  the
• 33:47
  end
• 33:47
  of
• 33:47
  the
• 33:47
  search
• 33:48
  here
• 33:48
  as
• 33:49
  you
• 33:49
  give
• 33:49
  the
• 33:49
  technical
• 33:50
  term
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  personalization
• 33:52
  of
• 33:52
  the
• 33:53
  Absolute.
• 33:53
  Saying
• 33:54
  and
• 33:54
  talking
• 33:55
  about.
• 33:57
  And
• 33:57
  you
• 33:57
  described.
• 33:57
  It's
• 33:58
  a
• 33:58
  very
• 33:58
  rare
• 33:59
  realization
• 34:00
  where
• 34:00
  the
• 34:01
  vastness
• 34:01
  of
• 34:02
  the
• 34:02
  mystery,
• 34:02
  the
• 34:02
  Absolute
• 34:03
  find
• 34:04
  itself
• 34:04
  walking
• 34:05
  around
• 34:06
  in
• 34:07
  and
• 34:08
  through
• 34:09
  a
• 34:09
  body.
• 34:10
  Yeah.
• 34:12
  Yeah.
• 34:12
  The
• 34:12
  Absolute
• 34:13
  can
• 34:14
  pour
• 34:14
  itself
• 34:15
  into
• 34:16
  as
• 34:16
  an
• 34:16
  individual
• 34:18
  like
• 34:19
  in
• 34:20
  absolute
• 34:20
  become
• 34:20
  like
• 34:21
  manifest
• 34:22
  being
• 34:23
  that
• 34:23
  flows
• 34:24
  and
• 34:24
  pours
• 34:24
  itself
• 34:25
  as
• 34:25
  an
• 34:26
  individual
• 34:26
  being
• 34:27
  that
• 34:27
  is
• 34:28
  expressing
• 34:29
  itself
• 34:29
  in
• 34:29
  the
• 34:29
  world.
• 34:30
  That
• 34:30
  is
• 34:31
  in
• 34:31
  fact
• 34:31
  that's
• 34:32
  why
• 34:32
  the
• 34:32
  Absolute
• 34:33
  need
• 34:33
  humans
• 34:34
  to
• 34:34
  live
• 34:34
  in
• 34:35
  the
• 34:35
  world.
• 34:35
  The
• 34:35
  Absolute
• 34:36
  doesn't
• 34:36
  just
• 34:36
  want
• 34:37
  to
• 34:37
  stay
• 34:37
  absolute
• 34:38
  and
• 34:38
  stay
• 34:39
  unconscious
• 34:39
  of
• 34:40
  itself.
• 34:40
  Only
• 34:41
  become
• 34:41
  conscious,
• 34:42
  want
• 34:43
  to
• 34:43
  be
• 34:43
  known,
• 34:44
  knows
• 34:44
  itself
• 34:45
  and
• 34:45
  it
• 34:46
  is
• 34:46
  its
• 34:46
  nature
• 34:47
  to
• 34:47
  express
• 34:47
  itself
• 34:49
  with
• 34:49
  all
• 34:50
  its
• 34:50
  qualities
• 34:51
  and
• 34:52
  living
• 34:52
  a
• 34:53
  personal
• 34:54
  life
• 34:55
  that
• 34:55
  expresses
• 34:56
  all
• 34:56
  the
• 34:56
  majesty
• 34:57
  and
• 34:57
  beauty
• 34:57
  of
• 34:58
  the
• 34:58
  Absolute
• 34:59
  and
• 34:59
  individual
• 35:00
  life.
• 35:01
  Roger.
• 35:02
  We
• 35:02
  still
• 35:02
  have
• 35:02
  some
• 35:03
  homework
• 35:03
  to
• 35:03
  do.
• 35:04
  I'm
• 35:04
  getting.
• 35:04
  Yeah.
• 35:06
  That
• 35:06
  is
• 35:07
  more
• 35:07
  difficult.
• 35:07
  That's
• 35:08
  what
• 35:08
  I
• 35:08
  call
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  actualization
• 35:09
  beyond
• 35:09
  realization.
• 35:11
  Absolutely.
• 35:12
  But
• 35:12
  then
• 35:12
  how
• 35:12
  to
• 35:13
  express
• 35:13
  it
• 35:13
  in
• 35:13
  the
• 35:14
  world.
• 35:14
  Yes.
• 35:16
  Not
• 35:17
  just
• 35:17
  being
• 35:17
  a
• 35:17
  guru,
• 35:18
  sitting
• 35:18
  and
• 35:18
  being
• 35:18
  carried
• 35:19
  around.
• 35:19
  No.
• 35:20
  Live
• 35:20
  a
• 35:20
  normal
• 35:21
  life.
• 35:22
  Yeah.
• 35:23
  And
• 35:23
  you
• 35:23
  point
• 35:24
  out
• 35:24
  to
• 35:24
  me
• 35:24
  that
• 35:25
  there's
• 35:25
  a
• 35:27
  process
• 35:27
  here
• 35:28
  that
• 35:28
  with
• 35:28
  this
• 35:29
  profound
• 35:30
  realization
• 35:31
  of
• 35:31
  the
• 35:32
  Absolute
• 35:32
  manifesting
• 35:33
  in
• 35:33
  and
• 35:33
  through
• 35:34
  the
• 35:35
  individual
• 35:36
  that
• 35:37
  at
• 35:37
  first
• 35:37
  there's
• 35:38
  this
• 35:38
  sense
• 35:38
  of
• 35:39
  wow.
• 35:39
  A
• 35:40
  kind
• 35:40
  of
• 35:40
  eureka.
• 35:41
  Excitement
• 35:42
  about
• 35:42
  it.
• 35:42
  But
• 35:43
  even
• 35:43
  that
• 35:44
  excitement
• 35:44
  fades
• 35:45
  over
• 35:45
  time
• 35:46
  into
• 35:48
  a
• 35:48
  sense
• 35:48
  of
• 35:49
  just
• 35:50
  where
• 35:50
  it
• 35:51
  is
• 35:51
  or
• 35:51
  the
• 35:52
  almost
• 35:52
  an
• 35:53
  ordinariness
• 35:53
  to
• 35:54
  this
• 35:54
  extraordinarily
• 35:56
  profound
• 35:57
  realization.
• 35:58
  Yeah.
• 35:59
  Become
• 35:59
  a
• 35:59
  simplicity.
• 36:00
  Because
• 36:01
  Absolute
• 36:01
  is
• 36:02
  the
• 36:02
  essence
• 36:02
  of
• 36:02
  simplicity.
• 36:03
  There's
• 36:03
  nothing
• 36:03
  there.
• 36:04
  So
• 36:04
  so
• 36:04
  much
• 36:05
  nothing
• 36:05
  there.
• 36:05
  It's
• 36:05
  so
• 36:05
  simple.
• 36:07
  And
• 36:08
  that
• 36:08
  appears
• 36:08
  in
• 36:09
  our
• 36:09
  life.
• 36:10
  That
• 36:10
  was
• 36:10
  simple,
• 36:11
  ordinary.
• 36:12
  Even
• 36:13
  though
• 36:13
  there's
• 36:13
  a
• 36:13
  profundity.
• 36:17
  I
• 36:17
  think
• 36:17
  you.
• 36:18
  I
• 36:18
  don't
• 36:18
  know
• 36:18
  whether
• 36:18
  you
• 36:19
  draw
• 36:19
  the
• 36:19
  comparison.
• 36:19
  I
• 36:20
  think
• 36:20
  you
• 36:20
  do.
• 36:20
  But
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  in
• 36:21
  your
• 36:21
  foot
• 36:21
  endnotes
• 36:22
  to
• 36:23
  the
• 36:24
  xenox
• 36:25
  herding
• 36:25
  pictures
• 36:25
  that
• 36:26
  wonderful
• 36:26
  10
• 36:27
  pictures
• 36:27
  which
• 36:28
  portray
• 36:28
  the
• 36:28
  spiritual
• 36:29
  path
• 36:29
  from
• 36:29
  beginning
• 36:30
  to
• 36:30
  end.
• 36:30
  And
• 36:31
  the
• 36:31
  final
• 36:31
  picture
• 36:32
  being
• 36:32
  the
• 36:33
  returning
• 36:33
  to
• 36:33
  the
• 36:34
  marketplace
• 36:34
  with
• 36:34
  help,
• 36:35
  sewing
• 36:35
  hands.
• 36:36
  That
• 36:36
  and
• 36:37
  the
• 36:37
  picture
• 36:37
  before
• 36:37
  that
• 36:38
  is
• 36:38
  a
• 36:38
  empty
• 36:39
  circle,
• 36:39
  the
• 36:39
  emptiness.
• 36:40
  That's
• 36:40
  right,
• 36:40
  that's
• 36:41
  right.
• 36:41
  Yeah.
• 36:42
  And
• 36:42
  then
• 36:43
  you,
• 36:43
  marketplace,
• 36:44
  even
• 36:44
  ordinary,
• 36:45
  you're
• 36:46
  shopping
• 36:46
  and
• 36:46
  talking
• 36:47
  and
• 36:47
  all
• 36:47
  that.
• 36:47
  Yeah.
• 36:49
  And
• 36:50
  the
• 36:50
  next,
• 36:50
  the
• 36:50
  next
• 36:50
  term,
• 36:50
  the
• 36:51
  next
• 36:51
  chapter
• 36:51
  of
• 36:51
  the
• 36:51
  book
• 36:52
  that
• 36:52
  we're
• 36:52
  going
• 36:52
  to
• 36:52
  start
• 36:52
  getting
• 36:52
  into
• 36:53
  is
• 36:53
  about
• 36:54
  actualization,
• 36:55
  about
• 36:55
  coming
• 36:55
  home,
• 36:56
  about
• 36:56
  expressing
• 36:56
  it,
• 36:57
  about
• 36:57
  being
• 36:57
  it,
• 36:57
  about
• 36:58
  living
• 36:58
  it
• 36:58
  in
• 36:59
  human
• 36:59
  form.
• 37:00
  So
• 37:00
  we
• 37:00
  call
• 37:00
  the
• 37:00
  Generative
• 37:01
  Descent.
• 37:03
  Yeah,
• 37:03
  yeah,
• 37:04
  that's
• 37:04
  good.
• 37:04
  That'd
• 37:05
  be
• 37:05
  nice
• 37:05
  to
• 37:05
  explore.
• 37:06
  Yeah,
• 37:06
  yeah.
• 37:07
  I
• 37:07
  mean
• 37:08
  this
• 37:08
  has
• 37:08
  been
• 37:08
  extraordinary.
• 37:09
  As
• 37:09
  I
• 37:09
  said
• 37:10
  note
• 37:10
  at
• 37:10
  the
• 37:11
  front
• 37:11
  of,
• 37:11
  at
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  top
• 37:12
  of
• 37:12
  this
• 37:12
  chapter.
• 37:12
  This
• 37:13
  is
• 37:13
  my
• 37:13
  favorite
• 37:13
  chapter
• 37:14
  and
• 37:15
  it's
• 37:15
  truly,
• 37:16
  it's
• 37:16
  just
• 37:16
  a,
• 37:17
  it's
• 37:17
  quite
• 37:17
  remarkable.
• 37:18
  It
• 37:18
  has
• 37:18
  opened
• 37:19
  up
• 37:19
  for
• 37:19
  me
• 37:20
  and
• 37:21
  made
• 37:21
  sense
• 37:21
  of
• 37:21
  some
• 37:22
  issues
• 37:23
  I've
• 37:23
  been
• 37:23
  trying
• 37:24
  to
• 37:24
  make
• 37:24
  sense
• 37:24
  of
• 37:25
  for
• 37:25
  a
• 37:25
  long,
• 37:26
  long
• 37:26
  time.
• 37:26
  Of
• 37:27
  course,
• 37:27
  it's
• 37:27
  a
• 37:27
  never
• 37:27
  ending
• 37:28
  process.
• 37:28
  In
• 37:28
  fact,
• 37:29
  maybe
• 37:29
  just
• 37:30
  before
• 37:30
  we'll
• 37:30
  end,
• 37:30
  I'll,
• 37:31
  I'll
• 37:31
  share
• 37:32
  the
• 37:32
  other
• 37:32
  quote
• 37:32
  I
• 37:32
  was
• 37:33
  thinking
• 37:33
  of
• 37:33
  sharing
• 37:34
  about
• 37:34
  the
• 37:34
  mystery,
• 37:35
  which
• 37:35
  is
• 37:36
  one
• 37:36
  of
• 37:36
  my
• 37:36
  all
• 37:36
  time
• 37:36
  favorite
• 37:37
  quotes.
• 37:37
  It's
• 37:37
  by
• 37:38
  Newton,
• 37:38
  who,
• 37:39
  you
• 37:39
  know,
• 37:40
  perhaps
• 37:40
  the
• 37:41
  greatest
• 37:41
  scientist
• 37:41
  who
• 37:42
  ever
• 37:42
  lived.
• 37:42
  And
• 37:42
  at
• 37:43
  the
• 37:43
  end
• 37:43
  of
• 37:43
  his
• 37:43
  life
• 37:44
  he
• 37:44
  said,
• 37:45
  I
• 37:45
  do
• 37:45
  not
• 37:45
  know
• 37:45
  how
• 37:46
  I
• 37:46
  may
• 37:46
  appear
• 37:46
  to
• 37:47
  others,
• 37:47
  but
• 37:48
  to
• 37:48
  myself
• 37:48
  I
• 37:48
  have
• 37:49
  been
• 37:49
  as
• 37:49
  a
• 37:49
  little
• 37:49
  boy
• 37:50
  playing
• 37:51
  on
• 37:51
  the
• 37:51
  seashore
• 37:52
  every
• 37:52
  now
• 37:53
  and
• 37:53
  then
• 37:53
  finding
• 37:53
  a
• 37:53
  brighter
• 37:54
  pebble
• 37:54
  or
• 37:55
  a
• 37:55
  prettier
• 37:55
  shell,
• 37:56
  while
• 37:56
  all
• 37:57
  around
• 37:57
  me
• 37:57
  the
• 37:57
  great
• 37:57
  ocean
• 37:58
  of
• 37:58
  truth
• 37:59
  lay
• 37:59
  undiscovered.
• 38:01
  It's
• 38:01
  your
• 38:01
  favorite
• 38:02
  because
• 38:03
  that
• 38:03
  means
• 38:03
  you
• 38:03
  love
• 38:03
  yourself.
• 38:05
  That's
• 38:06
  what
• 38:06
  you
• 38:06
  are.
• 38:09
  Bless
• 38:10
  you
• 38:10
  amid
• 38:10
  for
• 38:11
  showing
• 38:11
  that
• 38:12
  to
• 38:12
  all
• 38:12
  of
• 38:12
  us.
• 38:13
  As
• 38:13
  always,
• 38:13
  it's
• 38:14
  a
• 38:14
  priceless
• 38:15
  gift
• 38:15
  to.
• 38:15
  Have
• 38:16
  these
• 38:16
  conversations
• 38:17
  and
• 38:17
  hopefully
• 38:18
  many
• 38:18
  of
• 38:18
  our
• 38:18
  listeners
• 38:20
  can
• 38:21
  get
• 38:21
  some
• 38:21
  whiff
• 38:22
  of
• 38:22
  this
• 38:23
  gift.
• 38:24
  Indeed.
• 38:25
  Is
• 38:25
  there
• 38:25
  anything
• 38:25
  you'd
• 38:26
  like
• 38:26
  to
• 38:26
  say
• 38:26
  before
• 38:26
  we
• 38:27
  end,
• 38:27
  honey?
• 38:28
  Yeah,
• 38:28
  I
• 38:29
  mean,
• 38:29
  I
• 38:29
  think
• 38:29
  the
• 38:29
  important
• 38:29
  thing,
• 38:30
  the
• 38:30
  sense
• 38:30
  of
• 38:30
  home
• 38:31
  and
• 38:31
  the
• 38:31
  other
• 38:31
  thing
• 38:32
  we
• 38:32
  didn't
• 38:32
  mention,
• 38:32
  the
• 38:33
  sense
• 38:33
  of
• 38:33
  total
• 38:34
  intimacy.
• 38:36
  Sense
• 38:36
  of
• 38:37
  intimacy
• 38:37
  in
• 38:37
  it.
• 38:38
  Like
• 38:38
  true,
• 38:39
  everything
• 38:39
  manifests
• 38:40
  out
• 38:40
  of
• 38:40
  it,
• 38:41
  but
• 38:41
  we
• 38:41
  feel
• 38:41
  we
• 38:41
  are
• 38:42
  intimate
• 38:42
  with
• 38:42
  everything
• 38:43
  that's
• 38:44
  very,
• 38:44
  very
• 38:44
  deep.
• 38:45
  Any
• 38:46
  part
• 38:46
  of
• 38:46
  everything.
• 38:48
  Beautiful.
• 38:50
  Total
• 38:50
  intimacy.
• 38:51
  That's
• 38:51
  where
• 38:51
  the
• 38:51
  word
• 38:52
  intimacy
• 38:52
  comes
• 38:52
  from,
• 38:53
  I
• 38:53
  think.
• 38:59
  See
• 38:59
  you
• 38:59
  next
• 39:00
  time.
• 39:00
  God
• 39:00
  bless
• 39:00
  you.
• 39:01
  Thank
• 39:01
  you.
• 39:01
  It's
• 39:01
  been
• 39:01
  absolutely
• 39:02
  great.
• 39:03
  You're
• 39:03
  so
• 39:04
  appreciated
• 39:04
  discussion.
• 39:05
  I
• 39:05
  appreciate,
• 39:06
  you
• 39:06
  know,
• 39:07
  us
• 39:07
  discussing
• 39:08
  these
• 39:08
  mysteries
• 39:09
  of
• 39:10
  reality.
• 39:11
  Indeed.
• 39:12
  Thanks
• 39:12
  so
• 39:12
  much,
• 39:12
  Hameed.
• 39:15
  Thank
• 39:15
  you
• 39:15
  very
• 39:16
  much
• 39:16
  for
• 39:16
  being
• 39:17
  a
• 39:17
  part
• 39:17
  of
• 39:17
  this
• 39:17
  conversation.
• 39:18
  We
• 39:18
  hope
• 39:19
  that
• 39:19
  you
• 39:19
  were
• 39:19
  moved,
• 39:20
  as
• 39:20
  we
• 39:20
  are
• 39:20
  moved
• 39:21
  being
• 39:21
  part
• 39:21
  of
• 39:21
  it
• 39:22
  ourselves.
• 39:22
  We'd
• 39:23
  also
• 39:23
  like
• 39:23
  to
• 39:23
  say
• 39:24
  that
• 39:24
  this
• 39:24
  is
• 39:24
  being
• 39:25
  funded
• 39:25
  by
• 39:25
  Roger
• 39:26
  and
• 39:26
  myself.
• 39:26
  It
• 39:26
  comes
• 39:26
  out
• 39:27
  of
• 39:27
  our
• 39:27
  pockets.
• 39:27
  So
• 39:28
  if
• 39:28
  you
• 39:28
  would
• 39:28
  like
• 39:28
  to
• 39:28
  help
• 39:29
  us
• 39:29
  to.
• 39:30
  Mainly
• 39:30
  to
• 39:30
  get
• 39:30
  this
• 39:31
  podcast
• 39:31
  out
• 39:31
  to
• 39:32
  more
• 39:32
  people,
• 39:32
  because
• 39:32
  the
• 39:33
  bigger
• 39:33
  audience
• 39:33
  have,
• 39:33
  which
• 39:34
  is
• 39:34
  steadily
• 39:34
  growing,
• 39:34
  but
• 39:35
  the
• 39:35
  more
• 39:35
  people
• 39:35
  we
• 39:36
  can
• 39:36
  reach
• 39:36
  and
• 39:36
  the
• 39:36
  more
• 39:36
  marketing
• 39:37
  we
• 39:37
  can
• 39:37
  do,
• 39:37
  the
• 39:38
  more
• 39:38
  positive
• 39:38
  effect
• 39:39
  we
• 39:39
  can
• 39:39
  have
• 39:39
  on
• 39:39
  the
• 39:40
  world.
• 39:40
  So
• 39:40
  we've
• 39:41
  done
• 39:41
  that
• 39:41
  a
• 39:41
  couple
• 39:41
  of
• 39:41
  ways.
• 39:41
  But
• 39:42
  we'd
• 39:42
  like
• 39:42
  you
• 39:42
  to
• 39:42
  buy
• 39:43
  us
• 39:43
  a
• 39:43
  cup
• 39:43
  of
• 39:43
  coffee.
• 39:44
  Very
• 39:44
  simple.
• 39:44
  And
• 39:45
  I
• 39:45
  do
• 39:45
  that
• 39:45
  with
• 39:45
  podcasts
• 39:46
  that
• 39:46
  I
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  support,
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  and
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  I
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  find
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  it's
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  very
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  satisfying.
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  So
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  thank
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  you
• 39:50
  for
• 39:50
  your
• 39:50
  help,
• 39:51
  thank
• 39:51
  you
• 39:51
  for
• 39:51
  your
• 39:51
  presence,
• 39:52
  and
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  thank
• 39:52
  you
• 39:52
  for
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  all
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  you
• 39:53
  are
• 39:53
  and
• 39:54
  all
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  you
• 39:54
  do.
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  We
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  love
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  you.