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- 0:05Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:08Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, June three, twenty twenty six. Where to now
- 0:14Speaker 1: for Orcus and our defense? As one senior labor figure says,
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- 0:40Speaker 1: Confused about the negative gearing crackdown, You're not alone. Housing
- 0:44Speaker 1: Minister at Claire O'Neill has got herself tangled up about
- 0:47Speaker 1: whether granny flats and other second dwellings on existing properties
- 0:52Speaker 1: will be exempt from the changes. That's as new home
- 0:55Speaker 1: building approvals slumped three point four percent in April. Did
- 1:01Speaker 1: Buckingham Palace cover up for Andrew mount Batton Windsor? A
- 1:05Speaker 1: victim of the convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein has accused senior
- 1:10Speaker 1: figures in the Royal Household of failing to act on
- 1:13Speaker 1: emails she says contained evidence of the former Duke of
- 1:17Speaker 1: York's alleged misconduct in public office, all as mount Baton
- 1:21Speaker 1: Windsor denies any wrongdoing. Associate editor Jenna Clarke is here
- 1:26Speaker 1: in just a moment.
- 1:30Speaker 2: July eighth, nineteen eighty one. I am twenty two years old,
- 1:34Speaker 2: and I'm sitting on the floor of my Brooklyn Brownstone apartment,
- 1:39Speaker 2: just beaming because I am in it and I am
- 1:44Speaker 2: doing it everything I said I was going to do.
- 1:46Speaker 2: I'm a working professional dancer in New York City.
- 1:51Speaker 1: This is a ted X talk given by American woman
- 1:54Speaker 1: Jess Michaels, and.
- 1:57Speaker 2: The very next day, July ninth, nineteen ninety one, I
- 2:04Speaker 2: was raped by Jeffrey Epstein.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Michaels says she was introduced to the disgraced financier by
- 2:13Speaker 1: a roommate whom she says groomed her for two months
- 2:17Speaker 1: before bringing her into Epstein's orbit. She calls it sex trafficking.
- 2:23Speaker 1: One oh one. Epstein died by suicide while awaiting trial
- 2:27Speaker 1: on sex trafficking charges in a Manhattan jail in twenty nineteen.
- 2:32Speaker 1: A trove of documents known as the Epstein Files, detailing
- 2:36Speaker 1: an investigation by the United States Department of Justice into
- 2:40Speaker 1: Epstein's crimes was released in three tranches earlier this year.
- 2:44Speaker 1: It included allegations of widespread criminal offending, but Jess Michael's story,
- 2:50Speaker 1: her statement and an interview given to the FBI wasn't
- 2:54Speaker 1: among them. She considers that a cover up and a
- 2:58Speaker 1: betrayal of survivors, and now she's also accusing Buckingham Palace
- 3:03Speaker 1: of hiding the truth about Andrew Mountbatten Windsor.
- 3:08Speaker 3: She claims Buckingham Palace protected the King's brother when it
- 3:12Speaker 3: failed to act on evidence former Prince Andrew leaked confidential
- 3:16Speaker 3: government information while working as the UK Trade Envoy.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Court documents revealed the Palace was handed a trove of
- 3:24Speaker 1: thirty thousand emails containing allegations of misconduct by Andrew in
- 3:28Speaker 1: public office. The former Prince is the subject of a
- 3:31Speaker 1: police investigation into the misconduct allegations, and he's denied any wrongdoing.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Andrew and his former wife Sarah Ferguson were friends with Epstein.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Like most of Epstein's associates, Andrew says he had no
- 3:45Speaker 1: knowledge of Epstein's offending, and he's always denied sexual offending
- 3:49Speaker 1: against women he met through Epstein, such as the late
- 3:52Speaker 1: Virginia Deufray. Andrew hasn't been charged with anything.
- 4:00Speaker 4: This claimant has said that there's about thirty thousand emails
- 4:03Speaker 4: that are flying around that the Palace knew about all
- 4:06Speaker 4: of these claims that he was being dodgy with Epstein.
- 4:10Speaker 4: There was questions raised around his trade envoy role. Jenna
- 4:14Speaker 4: Clarke is an associate editor with The Australian, So it
- 4:18Speaker 4: really once again puts the spotlight on what people knew
- 4:21Speaker 4: and when, So it's not just the former Prince. This
- 4:25Speaker 4: has a mushroom like effect and it's tainting nearly everyone
- 4:28Speaker 4: in its midst.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Those emails allegedly contain allegations that Andrew was doing the
- 4:35Speaker 1: activities that he's actually being investigated for by the police,
- 4:38Speaker 1: and that is Malfeasan's in public office sharing information from
- 4:42Speaker 1: his time as a trade envoy with other people, including
- 4:46Speaker 1: allegedly a banker friend of his. What's happening with the
- 4:50Speaker 1: charges though against Andrew, if there are going to be any.
- 4:53Speaker 4: They seem to have really stalled at this point in
- 4:56Speaker 4: time because I think the most easy reply is what
- 4:59Speaker 4: the IFI can give when questions are asked by journalists
- 5:02Speaker 4: around what's going on with Andrew and this seemingly bigger
- 5:05Speaker 4: case that keeps mounting against him, is that well, it's
- 5:08Speaker 4: before the courts, so we cannot comment any further, So
- 5:12Speaker 4: no one really knows when this could ever potentially go
- 5:14Speaker 4: to trial. And you have to really ask the question
- 5:17Speaker 4: not what are the lawyers even working on now? Because
- 5:20Speaker 4: the mountain of evidence continues to go bigger than Everest.
- 5:25Speaker 1: It's a difficult situation for the Royal family at the moment,
- 5:27Speaker 1: isn't it. This is the normal progress of a criminal
- 5:30Speaker 1: investigation where someone is brought in for questioning, as Andrew
- 5:33Speaker 1: was earlier this year, and then there's generally a very
- 5:35Speaker 1: long gap before anything actually happens, before charges are laid,
- 5:39Speaker 1: or before there's any kind of announcement that an investigation
- 5:42Speaker 1: has wrapped up. How does the Royal family navigate their
- 5:45Speaker 1: way through these months when nothing really seems to be
- 5:48Speaker 1: happening in public?
- 5:50Speaker 4: I think the really interesting thing is we're going into summer, obviously,
- 5:53Speaker 4: so this is where all of the garden parties take place.
- 5:56Speaker 4: We're heading to Royal Ascot soon, so all eyes will
- 5:58Speaker 4: be on what was the Princess of Wales will be
- 6:01Speaker 4: wearing there, So there's nice little distractions, but also thankfully
- 6:06Speaker 4: the government in the UK is an absolute shambles.
- 6:09Speaker 5: Reform emerging on top with labour losing more than fourteen
- 6:13Speaker 5: hundred counselors. These are really tough results.
- 6:17Speaker 4: I'm not going to sugarcoat it.
- 6:19Speaker 5: Klear Starmer fights his colleagues attempts to topple him. There
- 6:22Speaker 5: have been caused from more than eighty labor MPs now
- 6:25Speaker 5: for him to quit, but he is refusing to make
- 6:27Speaker 5: it easy, daring his opponents to stand up and formally
- 6:31Speaker 5: challenge him, something they've all avoided so far.
- 6:35Speaker 4: So it probably helps the fact that the Royals may
- 6:37Speaker 4: be brought in to help clean up their mess, whether
- 6:40Speaker 4: it's like we saw with King Charles having to head
- 6:42Speaker 4: over the pond to the White House to Donald Trump.
- 6:48Speaker 6: As a president. First Lady, my wife and I are
- 6:52Speaker 6: most grateful to you for your generous hospitality as the
- 6:57Speaker 6: United States celebrates this very special anniversary year of the
- 7:00Speaker 6: Declaration of Independence, or.
- 7:04Speaker 4: Even just cleaning up sair Keios Darma's mess in the Commons.
- 7:08Speaker 7: My government will respond to this world with strength and
- 7:12Speaker 7: aim to create a country that is fair for all.
- 7:17Speaker 7: My ministers will take decisions that protect the energy, defense
- 7:21Speaker 7: and economic security of the United Kingdom for the long term.
- 7:27Speaker 1: As you say, those documents were allegedly forwarded to the
- 7:30Speaker 1: Lord Chamberlain, who's a senior official in bucking Past, essentially
- 7:33Speaker 1: the person who runs the household, a labor in peop
- 7:36Speaker 1: called Rachel Maskel is saying that this shows that the
- 7:39Speaker 1: system built around the Royal household has to be reviewed,
- 7:43Speaker 1: that there's unaccountable power in this institution. This is not
- 7:47Speaker 1: dissimilar from the allegations being raised by Prince Harry and
- 7:50Speaker 1: Meghan Markel are they? I mean, not necessarily their colorful
- 7:54Speaker 1: claims about people being racist and so on, and people
- 7:57Speaker 1: being mean about flesh colored pante hoose, but more that
- 8:01Speaker 1: there's a class of gray men who run the royal
- 8:04Speaker 1: household who use and maybe ignore information at their will.
- 8:09Speaker 1: It's pretty dark allegation, isn't it totally?
- 8:12Speaker 4: And we have to think that given everything that we're
- 8:15Speaker 4: learning that's coming out in the public eye now. Because
- 8:18Speaker 4: they say light is the best type of disinfectant, it
- 8:20Speaker 4: goes to show that there could be some credence to
- 8:22Speaker 4: some of these claims for both the Labour MP and
- 8:25Speaker 4: potentially Harry and Meghan, Because I feel it's really interesting
- 8:28Speaker 4: now that the way that the public relations war is
- 8:30Speaker 4: playing out is that they're sending out clean skins. Being
- 8:34Speaker 4: the Princess of Wales, she's doing her own solo trips
- 8:37Speaker 4: around the world at this point in time because weirdly
- 8:40Speaker 4: she's married into the royal family, so she's not really
- 8:42Speaker 4: one of them. She seems to be the most popular
- 8:45Speaker 4: public face and the most acceptable at this point in time.
- 8:50Speaker 3: A rock star welcome for Princess Keith that she makes
- 8:53Speaker 3: her come back on the international stage, thousands turning up
- 8:57Speaker 3: to see Chow.
- 9:00Speaker 1: The institution seems to be stronger than effort, doesn't it,
- 9:03Speaker 1: despite these horrendous scandals, two bouts of cancer, the departure
- 9:06Speaker 1: of Harry and Meghan. This is not really where I
- 9:09Speaker 1: thought King Charles the Third would be being his right.
- 9:12Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really interesting because I think what we're seeing
- 9:15Speaker 4: is Kate and William Pty Limited really leaning in to
- 9:20Speaker 4: really shape this public narrative of the new slim down Royals.
- 9:25Speaker 4: We saw William at the football a couple of days ago,
- 9:29Speaker 4: really celebrating Auston's win. Part of the people really blowkey
- 9:33Speaker 4: blokey with everyone at the match there as we previously
- 9:36Speaker 4: talked about the Princess of Wales went to Italy for
- 9:38Speaker 4: a solo tour, the first that she's done since the
- 9:41Speaker 4: cancer diagnosis, and then they're talking about the Duchy of Cornwall,
- 9:45Speaker 4: which is this incredible thing that the then Prince Charles created,
- 9:49Speaker 4: which is basically, if you look at it on paper,
- 9:52Speaker 4: it's kind of like Andrew Twiggy Forests Cream Dream because
- 9:56Speaker 4: it's all about sustainability and moving forward natural five and
- 10:00Speaker 4: had it to plate Ethos and William and him are
- 10:03Speaker 4: really focusing on channeling all of the money that is
- 10:06Speaker 4: earned from the Duchy back into the communities of which
- 10:09Speaker 4: the Duchy surrounds. The Duchy is a network of landholdings
- 10:13Speaker 4: that has sort of moved through the House of Windsor
- 10:16Speaker 4: for generations and it's gone from Prince Charles now to
- 10:20Speaker 4: Prince William, and William, being the very savvy operator when
- 10:25Speaker 4: it comes to public optics and things like that, has
- 10:28Speaker 4: decided to really open it up to encourage more community
- 10:31Speaker 4: involvement and see a more circular environment when it comes
- 10:34Speaker 4: to the funds going back into the general public.
- 10:37Speaker 1: He really wants to be a good landlord, doesn't he,
- 10:40Speaker 1: as well as being a good king in the future.
- 10:43Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think it's going to be really interesting
- 10:45Speaker 4: to see what those modern royals do with the monarchy
- 10:49Speaker 4: moving forward. And I think you have to take your
- 10:52Speaker 4: hat off to King Charles and also Camilla because they
- 10:56Speaker 4: seem to also be following in that footprint.
- 10:58Speaker 1: What do you think is the outcome that Charles and
- 11:00Speaker 1: Camilla and the rest of the Royals would be hoping
- 11:02Speaker 1: for now? Is it that he is charged, that he
- 11:04Speaker 1: goes through a criminal process, or is it that the
- 11:07Speaker 1: Crown Prosecution Service announces there's nothing to see here and
- 11:10Speaker 1: they're not going to charge him with anything. I mean
- 11:11Speaker 1: to me, that would seem like almost the worst outcome
- 11:14Speaker 1: because it would feed this idea of a conspiracy.
- 11:17Speaker 4: Definitely. I think they probably as a brother, you would
- 11:21Speaker 4: probably want the latter, but for the future of the firm,
- 11:26Speaker 4: they have to take the fest.
- 11:32Speaker 1: In February, Andrew mount Baton Windsor was evicted from Royal
- 11:35Speaker 1: Lodge on the Windsor estate by his brother, King Charles.
- 11:39Speaker 1: He's since moved to another house on the royal family's
- 11:42Speaker 1: Sandringham estate. Andrew had lived at Royal Lodge for more
- 11:46Speaker 1: than two decades with his ex wife Sarah Ferguson, an
- 11:50Speaker 1: arrangement they kept after their divorce in nineteen ninety six.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Andrew of course denies any wrongdoing, so does Sarah Ferguson.
- 11:59Speaker 1: What's she been up to since all this started happening.
- 12:01Speaker 4: Oh, she's really gone to ground until the Sun newspaper
- 12:04Speaker 4: did find her Claire a couple of weeks ago. I
- 12:07Speaker 4: think she's been enjoying or been taking hostage in a
- 12:11Speaker 4: spa in Spain. We have followed the story of Fergie
- 12:16Speaker 4: so closely since the eighties. It completely checks out. Yeah, totally. Yeah.
- 12:21Speaker 1: If I were her, I'd be off at the day
- 12:23Speaker 1: spa as well, or maybe the night spar There are allegations, though,
- 12:26Speaker 1: being raised about Sarah Ferguson's behavior herself.
- 12:29Speaker 4: What do they Yeah, there's an interesting new book out
- 12:32Speaker 4: called The House of York, which I devoured in probably
- 12:35Speaker 4: about two hours because it's just delicious investigative work into
- 12:39Speaker 4: the most colorful royals that we've seen in quite some time.
- 12:42Speaker 4: And basically an unnamed former executive assistant to the former
- 12:46Speaker 4: Duchess made claims that whereas she went, she failed to
- 12:50Speaker 4: pick up the tab she asked her daughters to pay
- 12:53Speaker 4: for things, and she then requested that her private staff
- 12:56Speaker 4: pay for very expensive items on their personal credit card,
- 13:00Speaker 4: which once again, it kind of checks out when you
- 13:05Speaker 4: consider Fergie's track record.
- 13:06Speaker 1: The long suffering daughterism, and your heart really goes out
- 13:09Speaker 1: to those two. Princess Eugeney is pregnant again with her
- 13:14Speaker 1: third child. They've been quite dignified, I think, haven't they,
- 13:17Speaker 1: in the way they've just kind of tried to let
- 13:19Speaker 1: their parents alleged bad behavior roll past them.
- 13:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:23Speaker 4: I do really feel sorry for them because they have
- 13:25Speaker 4: conducted themselves very well in public life because they were
- 13:29Speaker 4: the two royals that were born without the royal title,
- 13:32Speaker 4: so they kind of had to go out there and
- 13:34Speaker 4: earn their own keep, as if that's a crass way
- 13:37Speaker 4: of saying it. But they've gone out and they've carved
- 13:39Speaker 4: their own path in the world. They've married lovely gentlemen
- 13:43Speaker 4: and building their own families at the moment, and people
- 13:46Speaker 4: that you speak to that work in that NGO and
- 13:49Speaker 4: charity space that have dealings with them say that they
- 13:52Speaker 4: are just incredibly polite, incredibly professional, cannot do enough for you,
- 13:56Speaker 4: but definitely prefer the private spaces. Maybe that uber wealthy
- 14:01Speaker 4: and those aristocrats do occupy these days.
- 14:05Speaker 1: Jenna Clark, thank you very much, Thanks Clay. Jenna Clark
- 14:11Speaker 1: is an associate editor with The Australian. You can read
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