Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Domani Harris Talks 'Forever Lasting Tape,' Family Ties To Music; His Passion & Fan Base, T.I. & 50 Cent Beef + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Every day up weak, click your ass up the Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 1: I'm finished for y'all.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Dumb morning everybody.
- 0:07Speaker 3: It's the j en Vy, just hilarious, charlamage the guy.
- 0:10Speaker 3: We are the breakfast Club. Longla Roses here as well.
- 0:13Speaker 3: We got a special guest.
- 0:14Speaker 2: In the building. Yes, indeed, the many Arras welcome. How
- 0:17Speaker 2: you feeling. How you're feeling, my brother? You're good?
- 0:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Should I ask you about the candles again? Yeah? Damn
- 0:26Speaker 2: you make candles too.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Man, I make candles, bro, Yeah, I'm making I'm selling
- 0:30Speaker 1: them all natural coconut sore. It's pretty good.
- 0:34Speaker 2: What don't you do your dad said you the creative
- 0:36Speaker 2: directed tech guy at the house. He's anything in that related,
- 0:38Speaker 2: he asked you. Yeah, content related.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Content, Man, I don't know. I just I just dive
- 0:45Speaker 1: into it. I got a vision and want to see
- 0:46Speaker 1: it through.
- 0:47Speaker 2: I just want you to know we did all of
- 0:49Speaker 2: that prior. But to redo that. He's good. The money,
- 0:53Speaker 2: know what you're doing.
- 0:54Speaker 4: That You got a new EP out right now?
- 0:56Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 0:57Speaker 3: Forever lasting tape. Yeah, talking about that seems like this
- 1:00Speaker 3: this there's there's a beta. You're talking to it something
- 1:04Speaker 3: that you're talking about.
- 1:06Speaker 1: That's what they want to know. Absolutely, Yeah, it's really Uh,
- 1:09Speaker 1: it's an extension from the song Forever Last and that
- 1:12Speaker 1: I put out and it went crazy. I ended up
- 1:15Speaker 1: put my phone number on.
- 1:16Speaker 4: It and people that's a real number.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Yeah number, but that it's been going crazy and people
- 1:23Speaker 1: been one like different people on the song and the
- 1:26Speaker 1: whole project from that vibe right there, and then I
- 1:29Speaker 1: just gave the people what they wanted. So that's what
- 1:30Speaker 1: that is.
- 1:31Speaker 2: That was given number taking Nah.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Nah, it's not unbearable.
- 1:37Speaker 5: Is it a burner phone or is it like your
- 1:39Speaker 5: real personal number?
- 1:40Speaker 1: Because that's my it's my number, it's my real phone.
- 1:43Speaker 6: But I feel like, I mean, so it's your real number,
- 1:46Speaker 6: but like how are you using it to like, because
- 1:48Speaker 6: now you're pushing out the second project because everything that
- 1:50Speaker 6: you do, even before this project, feels like you're always
- 1:53Speaker 6: talking directly right to us as like fans. So was
- 1:55Speaker 6: that the reason for putting your number there so people
- 1:57Speaker 6: could Yeah?
- 1:58Speaker 1: So it's really it really wasn't the reason. It's just
- 2:02Speaker 1: when I'm writing, I'm always like talking to someone, like
- 2:05Speaker 1: you said, and it's just like naturally I would say,
- 2:08Speaker 1: what's going on? What we're doing. Okay, let's exchange information
- 2:11Speaker 1: before we leave. That's what the whole situation was. And
- 2:14Speaker 1: I just actually said my real number.
- 2:16Speaker 6: So on this tape, I know, I mean, obviously you're
- 2:19Speaker 6: talking about a woman throughout the whole tape, but also
- 2:22Speaker 6: it feels like you're also writing a letter to like
- 2:24Speaker 6: you chasing your dreams a bit. Put the two of
- 2:27Speaker 6: those together for me and talk about your love for
- 2:29Speaker 6: whoever this lady is and how she supports you and what.
- 2:32Speaker 7: You're doing right now.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we need that, man and me
- 2:37Speaker 1: just having a child and more understanding that balance of
- 2:41Speaker 1: being there and being a father and knowing that I
- 2:45Speaker 1: got to be a way to really like provide at
- 2:47Speaker 1: the same time. So that's very important. That's just my life, man,
- 2:52Speaker 1: That's just what I've been into. That's what I've been seeing,
- 2:56Speaker 1: and it just naturally spills into the music. Sometimes I
- 2:59Speaker 1: don't even know the p sure that I'm paying until
- 3:01Speaker 1: I sit back and I and I listened to it
- 3:03Speaker 1: or I look at it. So so yeah, that was
- 3:05Speaker 1: a great question.
- 3:06Speaker 3: Though I want to I want to go back if
- 3:07Speaker 3: you don't mind. Right, the first time that we were
- 3:09Speaker 3: seeing you was the Family Hustle, right, family reality show?
- 3:13Speaker 3: What made you want to jump into music?
- 3:15Speaker 5: Right?
- 3:16Speaker 4: Because I remember one time on the Family House.
- 3:17Speaker 3: Your dad didn't want really any of y'all to go
- 3:19Speaker 3: into music, didn't want y'all in the entertainment industry.
- 3:21Speaker 4: But what put you in music? And when did you
- 3:22Speaker 4: realize you were good at music?
- 3:25Speaker 1: Mmm? So I would say I wanted to do it
- 3:27Speaker 1: because it was definitely just around me, and I felt like,
- 3:31Speaker 1: uh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I felt like, probably like
- 3:37Speaker 1: how a lot of kids feel they see a rapper
- 3:40Speaker 1: or artist or a celebrity on TV and they see
- 3:42Speaker 1: the lifestyle and what it looks like. Of course that's
- 3:45Speaker 1: what naturally caught my attention, and then being so close
- 3:48Speaker 1: to it seeing my father, I already look up to
- 3:50Speaker 1: my father. So I would say that's where the spark
- 3:53Speaker 1: came from, and that's where the image of me wanting
- 3:55Speaker 1: to do music. But when I like learned more about
- 3:59Speaker 1: it and really found myself and knew what I wanted
- 4:01Speaker 1: to do, it is when I started to tell my
- 4:03Speaker 1: story and really express myself and the question started answering
- 4:08Speaker 1: some of the questions that I had in my head
- 4:10Speaker 1: through the music. And then people would come to tell
- 4:11Speaker 1: me like it helped them as well. I was like, yeah,
- 4:15Speaker 1: it's definitely what I want to do.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Did you have a chase in an identity issue? Because like,
- 4:19Speaker 3: your dad is so street right and you grew up
- 4:22Speaker 3: listening to that, and they said, you know, some of
- 4:24Speaker 3: the people you loved as whole is Kendrick is one
- 4:27Speaker 3: hundred three thousand, but you're not from that same place.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Did you ever have that say like, damn, I love
- 4:32Speaker 3: this music, but I'm not that well they love that
- 4:35Speaker 3: the people that loved my dad.
- 4:36Speaker 4: Did you ever have that issue or identity I.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Really don't think I did. Man, It's never been difficult
- 4:42Speaker 1: for me to really like know who I am and
- 4:47Speaker 1: and just just be free and feel comfortable to speak
- 4:51Speaker 1: about that. Like I knew the way that I grew
- 4:53Speaker 1: up and the way my father grew up was completely different,
- 4:56Speaker 1: Thank God, right, But yeah, but yeah, I definitely knew
- 5:03Speaker 1: that was completely different. And it wasn't that I was
- 5:07Speaker 1: into different stuff. Man. I was creative. I was drawing
- 5:10Speaker 1: paying buildings stuff like. I was distracted with stuff like that.
- 5:15Speaker 1: So I wasn't even worried about that.
- 5:17Speaker 5: Was there ever any pressure for you to sound like
- 5:20Speaker 5: Atlanta will sound like your dad, you know what I mean?
- 5:23Speaker 5: In music? When you first got into music, do people
- 5:26Speaker 5: want to hear little tip?
- 5:30Speaker 1: I was so young, I probably didn't even think about
- 5:32Speaker 1: it like that.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Really.
- 5:33Speaker 1: It wasn't until I got older to really understand and
- 5:36Speaker 1: sit back and look at it from that perspective to
- 5:38Speaker 1: realize ding people probably did want me to come like this,
- 5:42Speaker 1: but I was already established in my own situation. So
- 5:46Speaker 1: it's just just me being young and just the love
- 5:49Speaker 1: for music and creating driving that.
- 5:51Speaker 2: So yeah, you know a lot of artists nowad they
- 5:54Speaker 2: chase going viralble. When I listen to your music, it
- 5:56Speaker 2: always feels introspective, right, Like do you ever feel like
- 5:59Speaker 2: you know your substance is fighting fighting the algorithm?
- 6:05Speaker 1: Nah? Nah, not finding an algorithm. It's just about how
- 6:08Speaker 1: you package it, man, you could because everyone, we y'all
- 6:11Speaker 1: got the same questions a lot of times, and we
- 6:13Speaker 1: y'all want to know the same thing. We go through
- 6:15Speaker 1: the same thing. But it's just about how can you
- 6:17Speaker 1: package it to where it could be. It could be
- 6:21Speaker 1: like good on the eye to people, more entertaining, digestible, digestible,
- 6:26Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. So even if something seems
- 6:29Speaker 1: like it's not working for me, I just try to
- 6:31Speaker 1: figure out a different angle to package it.
- 6:33Speaker 6: And I feel like to what he's saying, your stuff
- 6:37Speaker 6: does that, even though it's not like the super like tiktoki,
- 6:41Speaker 6: like it's a vibe you have to catch it. But
- 6:43Speaker 6: I remember one of your songs I heard for the
- 6:45Speaker 6: first time. It was all over TikTok because people just
- 6:47Speaker 6: it was such an energy, especially with the ladies. So
- 6:51Speaker 6: you have those moments naturally anyway, So you do. I
- 6:54Speaker 6: don't think there's no struggle there, really like it's happening already.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Yeah, then it's I'm really just always talking to I
- 7:02Speaker 1: don't think I ever give off like I'm trying to
- 7:04Speaker 1: be mainstream or just trying to just blow up. I'm
- 7:08Speaker 1: really just having a conversation a lot of times, and
- 7:12Speaker 1: I'm talking to like one person.
- 7:15Speaker 6: So in twenty seventeen, you did the constellation, and then
- 7:19Speaker 6: now we're all all these years later, what's the conversation
- 7:22Speaker 6: you were having with yourself? Then that's so different now
- 7:25Speaker 6: when you're putting out music.
- 7:28Speaker 1: M I think I was. I mean, I'm still figuring
- 7:32Speaker 1: it out now, but I was definitely figuring it out.
- 7:35Speaker 1: And man, I was doing everything I would say to
- 7:41Speaker 1: get away from my father, to get away from my
- 7:45Speaker 1: last name, or just that idea in general. And that's
- 7:50Speaker 1: just I was just hard hitted. But it worked, like
- 7:53Speaker 1: I mean, it pushed me to learn different things about
- 7:57Speaker 1: myself and music, and it helped me figure out my
- 8:00Speaker 1: own stuff. And that's the first thing I'm saying this
- 8:02Speaker 1: because that's the first thing that popped my head when
- 8:04Speaker 1: you ask me that question. Now I feel like I'm like,
- 8:08Speaker 1: I'm I'm around my family. I don't feel like it
- 8:10Speaker 1: will hinder my career, like and that's a that's a
- 8:14Speaker 1: beautiful thing. So I can say that's what I learned,
- 8:18Speaker 1: and that's the difference.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Now, It's interesting that every single one of y'all have
- 8:21Speaker 2: your own distinct identities. You your hip brother King was
- 8:27Speaker 2: Buddy King, like all of y'all. But it's totally different,
- 8:30Speaker 2: totally different, totally even from even different from what your
- 8:33Speaker 2: father is doing.
- 8:34Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy.
- 8:35Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you know, even with that, it's
- 8:37Speaker 3: always straight to especially in our community, that I feel
- 8:39Speaker 3: like the kids and the juniors run away from their
- 8:43Speaker 3: family's name, like they want to create their own identity.
- 8:45Speaker 3: But when you look at some other culture sometimes it's
- 8:47Speaker 3: like they take it more like, yeah, that's my dad. Yeah,
- 8:50Speaker 3: but why is that you feel like people would judge you,
- 8:53Speaker 3: they would listen to your music. Why was that that
- 8:55Speaker 3: you wanted to run away from that name?
- 8:56Speaker 1: At first? It's the environment, I would say. I don't
- 9:00Speaker 1: think that's a natural feeling, like you should. A kid
- 9:03Speaker 1: should want to be like their parents, look like their parents,
- 9:07Speaker 1: be like doing the same thing. I think it's the environment.
- 9:11Speaker 7: Man.
- 9:11Speaker 1: I don't think we I don't think we embraced that enough.
- 9:14Speaker 1: We don't make it feel like it's a positive thing.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Make it feel like you don't deserve that that didn't
- 9:19Speaker 1: come from you, that came from them. Really that's how
- 9:22Speaker 1: it's supposed to be.
- 9:23Speaker 2: So yeah, but you're still your own man. I mean
- 9:25Speaker 2: it's like if I sat down in the interview, regardless,
- 9:28Speaker 2: that's my father not. I don't want to be asked
- 9:30Speaker 2: twenty minutes of questions about my father, you know what, I'm.
- 9:34Speaker 8: Regardless though it's just for a while, Yes, for a while, yeah, absolutely,
- 9:38Speaker 8: Like give what you're saying to with the forever lasting tape, right,
- 9:41Speaker 8: Like we live in this era where music just disappears
- 9:44Speaker 8: like it comes in goals, right, Like what makes something forever?
- 9:47Speaker 2: Now? Is it the art or the impact the art?
- 9:49Speaker 1: Mat I would say both. It's the art, the impact
- 9:55Speaker 1: and the connection that the connection that it had on
- 10:00Speaker 1: the people. Like like I said, my phone numbers on it,
- 10:04Speaker 1: So it's not it's a little bit more three D
- 10:07Speaker 1: like it's not just one dimensional. Or there have been
- 10:11Speaker 1: times where it's not out writing, it's not out anymore,
- 10:14Speaker 1: but I put an address out somewhere and it's like
- 10:17Speaker 1: stuff like that, whereas it's just bigger than the music.
- 10:21Speaker 1: It's uh, it definitely makes it last forever. And then
- 10:26Speaker 1: the substance too though.
- 10:28Speaker 5: I love that yo, because growing up I thought I
- 10:30Speaker 5: was really calling my Jones, I thought, and the still
- 10:35Speaker 5: remember the number, Yes, And it was a wrong ass number,
- 10:38Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying it was.
- 10:39Speaker 1: It wasn't.
- 10:40Speaker 5: I wasn't calling Mike Jones, you know what I mean.
- 10:43Speaker 5: But now that I can know I can call you,
- 10:45Speaker 5: that's good. Yeah, that's good because this is the truth.
- 10:48Speaker 5: This is your real.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Number, and it's been good calls. Man, I don't get
- 10:51Speaker 1: nothing negative. I think that's what a lot of people
- 10:54Speaker 1: be asking what's the craziest thing. People don't say it,
- 10:57Speaker 1: I'll be having good, good vibes on my end.
- 10:59Speaker 5: Man, is it weird?
- 11:01Speaker 1: Though?
- 11:01Speaker 5: Even if it's not negative, you have to get a
- 11:02Speaker 5: weird call or person that just keep calling you, like
- 11:05Speaker 5: keep the same number.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I do for sure. It's Uh it's young and
- 11:11Speaker 1: she don't know that. Every time she called, I know
- 11:14Speaker 1: her voice, even if I don't say her number or
- 11:17Speaker 1: she changed her nuber, I know her voice. She keeps
- 11:18Speaker 1: saying this. Now, I said, I know, now, what's up?
- 11:21Speaker 1: She she gonna keep I really have a real relationship,
- 11:25Speaker 1: and I'd be locking numbers in and letting people know. Uh,
- 11:29Speaker 1: like if I if I remember and I tell them,
- 11:31Speaker 1: I'll let you know what I'm in the city, if
- 11:32Speaker 1: I got something going on, even I'm if I'm just chilling.
- 11:35Speaker 1: I got a real relationship with him.
- 11:37Speaker 2: What do you think the energetic connection is with with
- 11:39Speaker 2: somebody likes you know, Like, how do you just the
- 11:40Speaker 2: fact that you remember her like that, like gonna call
- 11:43Speaker 2: every day? What do you think it is?
- 11:47Speaker 1: What do I think it is that caused her to
- 11:50Speaker 1: like what.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Just just the fact that you even remember her and
- 11:52Speaker 2: you know you said the boys. But whatever have you had,
- 11:54Speaker 2: like conversation, Yeah, conversations. We'll have conversations just regular way
- 12:00Speaker 2: we remember people. Man, she might tell me where's she
- 12:02Speaker 2: from or where she did. And definitely her continuing to
- 12:06Speaker 2: call and that's having more conversations helped as well.
- 12:10Speaker 5: I think it's dope because it's a real human connection.
- 12:12Speaker 5: You don't really that's what I feel like is lost now.
- 12:15Speaker 5: Everything is just it's not it's no human connection, right,
- 12:19Speaker 5: So what are the conversations like without you know, obviously
- 12:23Speaker 5: telling somebody business, But is it more like enlightenment that
- 12:26Speaker 5: you're giving them or you know what I mean? People
- 12:28Speaker 5: call it you stressed out, you know, when you're just
- 12:31Speaker 5: providing clarity for where they going in life.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Like it'll be some of that too. Mainly they really
- 12:36Speaker 1: just shocked and want to see if the number is real.
- 12:39Speaker 1: That's majority of the cause. It's like, oh, I was
- 12:42Speaker 1: just trying to see if there's real man, I respect man, I.
- 12:45Speaker 5: Have a go right, because they nervous, the don't know
- 12:48Speaker 5: what to say.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of times they are called I say
- 12:50Speaker 1: hey and they hang up. They just they just really
- 12:54Speaker 1: trying to see the number. Really, But few people that
- 12:58Speaker 1: actually have a conversation with a positive what.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Some of the hardest internal battles you gotta face when
- 13:04Speaker 2: you're making music, especially this tape.
- 13:09Speaker 1: I would say, just being honest, being honest because I
- 13:12Speaker 1: be having real questions and it seemed like I don't
- 13:15Speaker 1: know that I got these questions until I hear the
- 13:17Speaker 1: right beat, you know what I'm saying, And then I
- 13:20Speaker 1: really asked myself the question, and I give me some
- 13:22Speaker 1: time to really give a give a real answer, I
- 13:26Speaker 1: would say that, and then being fearless or comfortable enough
- 13:31Speaker 1: to be vulnerable to have that conversation no one, no
- 13:34Speaker 1: matter who's in the room.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Do you have to have answers at your age? Do
- 13:38Speaker 2: not even just at your age period like you always
- 13:41Speaker 2: have to have answers.
- 13:43Speaker 1: That's a crazy question, I mean because even the answers
- 13:46Speaker 1: may not be the answer that's right. So it's like
- 13:49Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's healthy to to poke
- 13:52Speaker 1: and try to try to see what's what I think
- 13:54Speaker 1: we learned when we when we ask questions. But yeah,
- 13:58Speaker 1: the answers may not be the answers.
- 14:00Speaker 3: You know, with all of your family members pretty much
- 14:02Speaker 3: inclined to music, do y'all bounce ideas off each other
- 14:05Speaker 3: all the time? Do y'all play each other's records? I
- 14:07Speaker 3: seen one video with King. He was trying to get
- 14:09Speaker 3: you on the record, and you was you was curving them,
- 14:12Speaker 3: curving them.
- 14:13Speaker 4: Did you ever get that record? By the way, damn.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Now we uh see the record is done? Okay, That
- 14:23Speaker 1: whole thing was. We was really just hanging out, man,
- 14:27Speaker 1: And you know we've grown now, we got kids. So
- 14:31Speaker 1: it's like the only time we really see each other
- 14:34Speaker 1: is at the studio and a lot of times surrounding
- 14:37Speaker 1: the music, sounding like him hanging around me a little
- 14:41Speaker 1: bit more just because he thinks that that's what is
- 14:44Speaker 1: gonna get the first the verses done, the song is done.
- 14:47Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, what we want to do.
- 14:49Speaker 1: But we were just really just enjoying each other's time.
- 14:51Speaker 1: That's how I was looking at it. Like we was
- 14:54Speaker 1: We went to wrestle Mania, w w E thing, we
- 14:57Speaker 1: went to the Hearts game. We were just kicking it.
- 14:59Speaker 1: He thinking like I'm telling him, yeah, man, I'm just
- 15:03Speaker 1: trying to get inspired. Man, were just hanging out.
- 15:07Speaker 5: What's up with Major? I feel like he don't want
- 15:11Speaker 5: us out the way. We don't really see him like that.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Yeah, he's out the way for sure. He but that's
- 15:16Speaker 1: the that's just him, man. But right now he's he's
- 15:19Speaker 1: acting and he's doing uh, he's doing plays right now.
- 15:22Speaker 5: So he not into the music at all.
- 15:24Speaker 1: I don't want to not right now, gotch.
- 15:27Speaker 6: I saw your dad talk about how like the studio
- 15:30Speaker 6: has always been y'alls home, and I hear you say that,
- 15:32Speaker 6: y'all just be chilling in the studio. So when you
- 15:35Speaker 6: guys are in the studio and something like that happens,
- 15:37Speaker 6: where like y'all want to create a song or like
- 15:38Speaker 6: whatever the case may be, when you don't want to
- 15:41Speaker 6: put a verse on something. So say, if you were like, no,
- 15:44Speaker 6: I don't want to do this, I know y'all big brother,
- 15:46Speaker 6: little brother, Like, is it an issue when you're like,
- 15:48Speaker 6: I don't want to be on this record?
- 15:52Speaker 1: No, I really feel like we were We understand each other.
- 15:56Speaker 1: We understand each other, and we know we don't know you.
- 16:00Speaker 1: I mean no harm, we don't got no bad intentions.
- 16:02Speaker 1: It's not like we really just probably don't feel it.
- 16:05Speaker 1: And it just be like that sometimes and it's not
- 16:08Speaker 1: wrong with that mm hmm. And it's always gonna be
- 16:12Speaker 1: some more music in another time. But no, we're not like,
- 16:15Speaker 1: why you're not doing it? You'll do it for other people.
- 16:19Speaker 1: We're not like that because I tell other people no too. Though.
- 16:23Speaker 2: What makes you say no.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Vibe? Damn king, no.
- 16:30Speaker 7: King like a king?
- 16:31Speaker 1: Right?
- 16:32Speaker 2: No? I mean like because you didn't he did the record,
- 16:34Speaker 2: so he didn't do it at first.
- 16:36Speaker 1: I think he thought I didn't do it at first.
- 16:40Speaker 1: We're just hanging out because I'm like, nah, man, this
- 16:42Speaker 1: is how I get my inspiration.
- 16:43Speaker 7: Yeah, but you just want to spend time, it seems like.
- 16:45Speaker 6: And the reason why I asked you that is because
- 16:47Speaker 6: we've watched all of you guys, like on television literally
- 16:50Speaker 6: in your relationships developed and stuff like that. So I
- 16:53Speaker 6: don't know, it seemed like there was a lesson in
- 16:54Speaker 6: there that you were trying to teach him about just
- 16:56Speaker 6: spending time or something that where.
- 16:58Speaker 1: The real inspiration comes from.
- 17:01Speaker 2: You think it ever gets like that. That's very interesting
- 17:03Speaker 2: what you're saying. You ever think it gets like that
- 17:05Speaker 2: with siblings and family where you start looking at each
- 17:08Speaker 2: other like the artists as opposed to being like, you know,
- 17:11Speaker 2: you're my brother, like let's just kick it. Don't look
- 17:13Speaker 2: at me as a as an artist you just want
- 17:15Speaker 2: a feature from.
- 17:17Speaker 1: I don't think we. I've never looked at us like that.
- 17:22Speaker 1: It's hard to do. Man, we didn't grow up we
- 17:24Speaker 1: like real siblings. It's tough to have that. Like, unless
- 17:29Speaker 1: we've just been away for a long time, maybe I
- 17:31Speaker 1: could see that, but man, that's tough. We really, man,
- 17:34Speaker 1: we're really close, so I don't see that happening.
- 17:38Speaker 2: And it's interesting. Man, Like your generation grew up watching
- 17:41Speaker 2: the internet judge everything in real time, So how do
- 17:44Speaker 2: you stay creative when every opinion is instantly in your face?
- 17:51Speaker 1: Time you gotta put the phone down. But damn, it's
- 17:53Speaker 1: like just knowing, no, staying focused, man, staying focused, and
- 17:58Speaker 1: the love for whatever you do gotta be more powerful
- 18:02Speaker 1: than everything else. And uh, I feel like once you
- 18:06Speaker 1: know what you love to do, the actions will show
- 18:09Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hard to get thrown off for real,
- 18:12Speaker 1: for real.
- 18:12Speaker 2: How much how much of the feedback do you taking
- 18:15Speaker 2: from just social media?
- 18:17Speaker 1: That's a great question. That's a great question because in
- 18:22Speaker 1: the music business it's like you you are of service.
- 18:26Speaker 1: But at the same time, you gotta make sure that
- 18:30Speaker 1: the best art comes from a real place, from you.
- 18:33Speaker 1: So I like to separate the two. And like I
- 18:37Speaker 1: was talking about packaging earlier, I think about whatever I
- 18:41Speaker 1: want to do creatively, I don't think about no one else.
- 18:44Speaker 1: That's me and how I want to package it, how
- 18:46Speaker 1: I want to package it and deliver it. The people
- 18:49Speaker 1: could tell me how they best like to to digest it.
- 18:53Speaker 1: But when I'm creating, that's one hundred percent of me.
- 18:56Speaker 1: And I think that balances has been work. I think
- 19:01Speaker 1: that's that's that's a great balance for just creating and
- 19:03Speaker 1: selling art in general.
- 19:05Speaker 6: You know, I think a lot of people, especially young people,
- 19:08Speaker 6: like it's hard for us to figure out that balance
- 19:10Speaker 6: of like it's authenticity, but then it's also adding the art,
- 19:13Speaker 6: but also knowing kind of what people want to hear,
- 19:16Speaker 6: but not really caring what they want to hear either.
- 19:18Speaker 6: So like when so, like when Miss Jackson, when that dropped, right,
- 19:22Speaker 6: there's a lot of people I feel like who were
- 19:24Speaker 6: having a conversation with me about you, and I'm like, y'all,
- 19:26Speaker 6: didn't Ben know he's like that, He's been dope like that.
- 19:29Speaker 6: But I think because at the time everything that was
- 19:32Speaker 6: going on with your family was so big, it made
- 19:34Speaker 6: people go down this rabbit hole of the money. So
- 19:37Speaker 6: there was the balance there of like it's art, it's creative,
- 19:39Speaker 6: it's from a real place, but like it's also dope,
- 19:41Speaker 6: like the flips that you did in there, and like
- 19:43Speaker 6: everything like that, and a lot of.
- 19:44Speaker 7: People can't do that.
- 19:46Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
- 19:47Speaker 7: Do you feel like that? Did you feel that?
- 19:49Speaker 2: Though?
- 19:49Speaker 6: Like some there were people who were discovering you in
- 19:51Speaker 6: real time again from that dis yet I.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Was seeing people say that and it just like you said,
- 19:58Speaker 1: it was also saying people respond of like, nah, he
- 20:00Speaker 1: been doing this, that's what he's been doing. And sometimes
- 20:04Speaker 1: it takes sometimes you don't know where the blessings come from. Man,
- 20:07Speaker 1: sometimes it takes some stuff you never thought of to
- 20:11Speaker 1: have you in a better position. But you know, all
- 20:14Speaker 1: we do is make best use of what we got
- 20:18Speaker 1: and hope for the best.
- 20:19Speaker 3: I think I think the record opened them up to
- 20:21Speaker 3: people that might not have known.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Who he was, right because it's it's.
- 20:24Speaker 4: Like anything else. The first time you talked about the
- 20:27Speaker 4: money was that record, you know what I mean? And
- 20:29Speaker 4: the same thing with.
- 20:29Speaker 3: Media and press, so it gave people a light to
- 20:31Speaker 3: who he was. And once you go down the rabbit hole,
- 20:33Speaker 3: you be like, oh.
- 20:34Speaker 2: This depends you got somebody like Nila who always been
- 20:37Speaker 2: talking about it, but that's your age group.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Cool, she got a good she got a good type
- 20:45Speaker 1: of music.
- 20:46Speaker 2: When you when you when do you protect? What do
- 20:49Speaker 2: you do to protect your piece? In a in the
- 20:51Speaker 2: industry that just profits off off chaos?
- 20:57Speaker 1: Stay focused, stay focused, and uh, stay around family, have
- 21:02Speaker 1: a have a strong circle around you. It's hard to
- 21:04Speaker 1: like I'm keep saying, it's hard to get thrown off. Man.
- 21:07Speaker 1: When you when you focus on what you love to do,
- 21:09Speaker 1: you gotta you got a good team run, So just
- 21:12Speaker 1: stay focused. Whenever you confuse man, write about it or
- 21:16Speaker 1: stay focused.
- 21:18Speaker 2: What confuses you more? Is it the expectations people may
- 21:22Speaker 2: have you because of your last name? Are criticism from
- 21:25Speaker 2: social media? Are actual success?
- 21:31Speaker 1: Maybe success? I can say success, especially if you see
- 21:35Speaker 1: success come from something you didn't expect, Like you know, well,
- 21:39Speaker 1: from an artists standpoint, it'll be times where we pour
- 21:43Speaker 1: so much into one song or one project and it
- 21:46Speaker 1: doesn't translate well and then it's throwaway, just some stuff
- 21:49Speaker 1: I was playing around which just blows up. It's like, dang,
- 21:52Speaker 1: so do I need to just not take any of
- 21:54Speaker 1: this series and just play around the whole time. It's
- 21:56Speaker 1: like that could confuse you. But that's when it's important
- 22:01Speaker 1: to just stay focused.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Man.
- 22:03Speaker 1: He keep doing that and find how to have fun
- 22:05Speaker 1: at the same time.
- 22:06Speaker 6: What was an example of that? Because all your songs
- 22:08Speaker 6: feel very intentional, So what like, what was it? What
- 22:11Speaker 6: do you think was like a throwaway and it went crazy?
- 22:14Speaker 6: But then there was something you like spent so much
- 22:15Speaker 6: time on, believe it.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Or not, Forever Lasting, Forever forever Lasting and Henny and crystals,
- 22:20Speaker 1: but forever Lasting that wasn't playing. We just that was
- 22:24Speaker 1: the first beat we heard that night. We was all right,
- 22:26Speaker 1: pull it up, said he went in the booth. That
- 22:29Speaker 1: was the first thing he said. We was just having
- 22:32Speaker 1: a good time. It was a real vibe that I
- 22:34Speaker 1: ran into DC that same time we was recording the song,
- 22:39Speaker 1: and it was just like it wasn't thought about it
- 22:41Speaker 1: at all, even me putting the phone number. It honestly
- 22:44Speaker 1: was not thought about it at all. I didn't think he
- 22:46Speaker 1: was gonna just winna drive everything. Nah. So compared to
- 22:52Speaker 1: some things where it took me weeks months, you know,
- 22:55Speaker 1: I mean maybe plus to write to really pour a
- 22:59Speaker 1: lot into too, It's like that didn't get as it's
- 23:03Speaker 1: near as much success as this. That just took a day,
- 23:06Speaker 1: so that could be confusing.
- 23:08Speaker 7: Was like a fast one too.
- 23:09Speaker 1: And Christmas was fast too, man, that was.
- 23:11Speaker 7: A big moment for you. Even have a candle named
- 23:13Speaker 7: after Yeah proj.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Yeah and the Christmas fast same same thing for real.
- 23:19Speaker 1: I was in the studio my friends was we was
- 23:21Speaker 1: joking talking about so I'm into crystals and stuff like that,
- 23:26Speaker 1: and every time a girl mentioned something about a zodiac
- 23:29Speaker 1: or got a bracelet or crystal loan, but she liked crystals,
- 23:35Speaker 1: So then I just naturally was like she like AI
- 23:37Speaker 1: and crystals because she drank and she liked and she
- 23:41Speaker 1: liked this, and it just I finished that song that night.
- 23:44Speaker 2: So is it easier to write when you're you're inspired
- 23:48Speaker 2: or like I guess, I don't know if you're overthinking
- 23:50Speaker 2: something like what's it easier like like when it hits
- 23:52Speaker 2: you in that moment or when you spend a week.
- 23:55Speaker 1: Or two or something easier when when I'm inspired and
- 23:59Speaker 1: you hit that flow state. Mm hm. When you inspire,
- 24:01Speaker 1: you hit that flow state. Man, it's like words just
- 24:03Speaker 1: falling place and it's it's a magical, beautiful moment, and
- 24:08Speaker 1: that's what happens a lot of times. Man. When you
- 24:11Speaker 1: catch that, then that's crazy. And then when people come
- 24:14Speaker 1: and ask me like, where did you just come from?
- 24:16Speaker 1: And I'd be really wanting to give them a real answer,
- 24:18Speaker 1: but I'm like, bro, I really don't know, you know
- 24:21Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like some stuff just fall in place
- 24:23Speaker 1: and I could feel something and want to want to
- 24:28Speaker 1: get it across, and the worst just come together like that.
- 24:31Speaker 2: So it's crazy because earlier in the interview you said
- 24:34Speaker 2: you still trying to figure it, figure things out, like
- 24:36Speaker 2: you sound like you got it all figure album.
- 24:38Speaker 6: So surprised to hear you say that because I apologize
- 24:40Speaker 6: for that.
- 24:43Speaker 1: I got to figure out.
- 24:45Speaker 6: So I mean that's the honest feeling to feel like that.
- 24:47Speaker 6: But from a viewers perspective, I because even when they
- 24:50Speaker 6: were asking you, like have you ever been confused about
- 24:52Speaker 6: your sound, I feel like you've always been like you
- 24:54Speaker 6: something you are, yeah, like and I think that that's
- 24:57Speaker 6: what's so and I think that's why it resonates with
- 24:59Speaker 6: people too, because it's so different than what you know
- 25:02Speaker 6: TI has done or whatever, but you're very sure you're
- 25:04Speaker 6: also really good at it.
- 25:05Speaker 1: So yeah, I appreciate that. I don't want to sound
- 25:08Speaker 1: like I got it all figured out. Definitely don't want
- 25:12Speaker 1: to sound like that. I think I'm just open and
- 25:16Speaker 1: I ask enough questions to want to figure it out.
- 25:19Speaker 1: And I guess I seem like I want to figure
- 25:21Speaker 1: it out. Yeah. No, me asking the questions is because
- 25:25Speaker 1: I know I don't know, though?
- 25:27Speaker 6: Does it because now people are having conversations about you
- 25:30Speaker 6: and you being like kind of like where j Cole
- 25:33Speaker 6: was and being like the new version of that.
- 25:36Speaker 7: Does that conversation bother you? Do you care for it?
- 25:39Speaker 4: Do you like that comparison?
- 25:40Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 25:40Speaker 1: I was about to say that's crazy because you say
- 25:42Speaker 1: where he was? I feel like he's one of the
- 25:45Speaker 1: dopest writers right now, He's he got one of the
- 25:47Speaker 1: craziest parents right now to this day. You said, how
- 25:51Speaker 1: do I feel about that comparison? I feel like it's
- 25:53Speaker 1: a compliment because that's how I feel about him, and
- 25:57Speaker 1: if people compare me to that, I'm like, yeah, that's
- 26:00Speaker 1: that's the one of the greatest compliments. For sure.
- 26:03Speaker 2: You think authenticity still wins or you got to be
- 26:05Speaker 2: like a character actor.
- 26:10Speaker 1: It's really like the perfect package and you just got
- 26:12Speaker 1: to have the perfect packageing. Man, It's like a lot
- 26:15Speaker 1: of times the stuff we buy in the store like
- 26:17Speaker 1: may not be actual good quality products, but the way
- 26:21Speaker 1: that is packaged, Yeah, it's very right with the level
- 26:26Speaker 1: of the shelf. It's on the commercial you're seeing who
- 26:28Speaker 1: you heard talk about it. So all that play a
- 26:31Speaker 1: part because you maybe think.
- 26:32Speaker 2: About it with the Cold thing, right, because everybody felt
- 26:34Speaker 2: like Cold was being performative. Not everybody, but there was
- 26:37Speaker 2: people who felt like Cole was being performative driving around
- 26:40Speaker 2: in the hand Oh, but I'm like, if your album
- 26:42Speaker 2: dropped and you're out there promoting, promoting it to be
- 26:46Speaker 2: a level of performance whatever it is you're doing.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Man, that's genuinely him.
- 26:53Speaker 5: The money the car broke down because he was driving it.
- 26:58Speaker 7: They made the video at auto he did.
- 27:02Speaker 1: Yeah, that genuinely him to He's really not He's not
- 27:05Speaker 1: putting this is my I'm not that close. This is
- 27:09Speaker 1: what I take from it. He's not putting too much
- 27:11Speaker 1: thought on it. He's just going with the flow. Even
- 27:14Speaker 1: when he came to Atlanta, like he was trying to
- 27:18Speaker 1: figure out what to do that day. It's not like
- 27:21Speaker 1: he's playing that mapped out. No, I was like, shoot,
- 27:24Speaker 1: you can, you can go here.
- 27:25Speaker 7: You he called you like, hey, what should I not
- 27:28Speaker 7: him personally out there?
- 27:30Speaker 1: Well not we got we communicate, but that time he
- 27:32Speaker 1: didn't call me personally. Got you. But yeah, he just
- 27:36Speaker 1: putting together and just doing exactly what he I guess
- 27:40Speaker 1: what he feels like he always wanted to do. But yeah,
- 27:44Speaker 1: he really just chilling.
- 27:45Speaker 6: I just think it's a big nod to like your pin.
- 27:47Speaker 6: But also you talk about packaging, how you put things together,
- 27:50Speaker 6: because it's like you get people there and then they
- 27:53Speaker 6: get to really get engulfed in, like how lyrical you are.
- 27:56Speaker 6: And people always have the conversation about whether conscious music
- 27:58Speaker 6: works into day, especially across the mainstream. So to see
- 28:02Speaker 6: you as a new artist breakthrough, how it's beginning to happen,
- 28:05Speaker 6: I just think it's fire.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Appreciate that. I really don't think about it like that
- 28:09Speaker 1: for real. I'm not even like the conscience. I don't
- 28:12Speaker 1: even know what that is, you know what I'm saying,
- 28:15Speaker 1: the conscious music. But I appreciate. I appreciate everything, Like
- 28:21Speaker 1: I understand that when people make those comparisons like Ja
- 28:24Speaker 1: cole Andre, etcetera, then I understand, Okay, but I get
- 28:28Speaker 1: it now. But Yeah, man, I'm just grateful.
- 28:33Speaker 2: I know somebody had to put you on the old,
- 28:35Speaker 2: old organized noise like the Good and the old Outcast albums.
- 28:39Speaker 2: You ever did a deep dive on all that?
- 28:41Speaker 1: Yeah, Hops, Hops gave me all the He gave me
- 28:45Speaker 1: all the people he felt like I should listen to. Yeah.
- 28:48Speaker 1: I dove into it, man, just because I just loved music.
- 28:53Speaker 1: I could have ignored him, but nah, I dove into it,
- 28:58Speaker 1: and I under stood it. I understood it, and I
- 29:01Speaker 1: just it wasn't so talented bro, and I took a
- 29:05Speaker 1: lot from it.
- 29:06Speaker 2: I feel like you and U, Jed and Marco plus
- 29:09Speaker 2: would make some amazing music together.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Yea, in the studio together, not altogether. Me and Marco
- 29:15Speaker 1: we got some music, though we need some more. I
- 29:17Speaker 1: don't have none with Jed, but I feel like it's
- 29:19Speaker 1: on the way. Yeah, that's some tough people don't know.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Machael Marcao is phenomenal. He's phenomenal. I saw to y'all
- 29:27Speaker 2: talking about how he didn't want you. He basically didn't
- 29:30Speaker 2: want you jumping into beef so to speak right and
- 29:35Speaker 2: yes and king as well, and talking about Fifty's mom.
- 29:38Speaker 2: What do you what was those conversations like.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Now, we didn't really have a conversation. You ain't even
- 29:44Speaker 1: ask him why, because he probably would have told he
- 29:48Speaker 1: probably would have had some input. Then I would have
- 29:51Speaker 1: to choose to ignore him or go my own wrap.
- 29:54Speaker 1: I just put it out just because I felt like
- 29:58Speaker 1: somebody told me, like they this is too good, Like
- 30:01Speaker 1: this is too good to not put out. I just
- 30:03Speaker 1: do it because this is how I felt. This was
- 30:06Speaker 1: on my mind. That's how I expressed myself. And it
- 30:08Speaker 1: could just be like that and it could just stay
- 30:10Speaker 1: on the hard drive. I don't even got to hear
- 30:12Speaker 1: it again. I just needed to get it out. But
- 30:16Speaker 1: he was telling me like, yeah, you need to put
- 30:18Speaker 1: that out that I don't need to just stay on
- 30:20Speaker 1: the drive. And I just listened to them honestly.
- 30:23Speaker 6: So once he heard it, he calls you and then
- 30:26Speaker 6: are y all together when he hears it like how
- 30:28Speaker 6: he heard it, like how we heard it?
- 30:30Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't be doing that. You cannot be doing it.
- 30:35Speaker 1: I know.
- 30:36Speaker 2: He was like, that is not protocol.
- 30:37Speaker 7: It was not put out though it was.
- 30:39Speaker 1: It was really how he did it.
- 30:41Speaker 6: But what does dad like as not as TI music
- 30:43Speaker 6: as dad? What does he call you? And say, you know,
- 30:46Speaker 6: men to men at.
- 30:47Speaker 1: This point mm hmm. Man, he's a father, so I
- 30:52Speaker 1: understand now, I understand it, and I understand why he
- 30:56Speaker 1: he picks and choose when and what to say, how
- 31:00Speaker 1: much to say, because he don't want to have too
- 31:03Speaker 1: much impact or push push his child in the direction
- 31:05Speaker 1: that I naturally wouldn't want to go into. So he
- 31:10Speaker 1: really don't say much. But I hear people tell me
- 31:15Speaker 1: what he say. You know what I'm saying. But yeah,
- 31:20Speaker 1: it was I know for a fact he said, yeah,
- 31:24Speaker 1: I don't gotta do it's over with now. I was like, okay, bet,
- 31:28Speaker 1: let's do it.
- 31:29Speaker 6: And so your mom say she feels like she gave
- 31:30Speaker 6: birth to her own, like Jackson five because of how
- 31:33Speaker 6: y'all came and everybody had such talented versus and stuff.
- 31:36Speaker 1: Like that, and you know time my step mom.
- 31:39Speaker 7: I'm sorry I didn't Okay, Yeah.
- 31:42Speaker 1: But yeah that is true. Man, I've heard that before
- 31:46Speaker 1: because we are so talented and just really just the beginner.
- 31:49Speaker 2: So yeah, when you talk about forever lasting, right, are
- 31:53Speaker 2: you talking about music that age as well or a
- 31:57Speaker 2: mindset that survives industry? Because I feel like you for
- 32:00Speaker 2: what's on mindset a lot or a love mm hmm love.
- 32:03Speaker 4: What the songs seem like you're talking about.
- 32:09Speaker 2: Music.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Yeah, well, in that in that case, the song is
- 32:16Speaker 1: about making the love last forever.
- 32:20Speaker 2: You were saying, I'm talking about music. Yeah, you were saying,
- 32:22Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, are you talking about music that age
- 32:24Speaker 2: as well? Our mindset that that that it will help
- 32:28Speaker 2: you survive forever.
- 32:31Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really just about just making timeless, timeless art.
- 32:36Speaker 1: You're saying, what do I feel like makes art timeless?
- 32:40Speaker 1: The substance, the authenticity, just uh, the impact mm hmm. Yeah,
- 32:49Speaker 1: I believe that's those are that's the combination to make
- 32:54Speaker 1: art last forever for sure?
- 32:56Speaker 2: Do you have those?
- 32:57Speaker 1: Now?
- 32:57Speaker 2: Those are the kind of conversations I see you having
- 32:59Speaker 2: with you because he's been around a long time.
- 33:02Speaker 1: By asking him, Yeah, how do you how do you stay?
- 33:05Speaker 2: I don't even know if there's a form you know,
- 33:06Speaker 2: if you can even ask that question, how do you
- 33:07Speaker 2: you can ask it? How do you stay around forever?
- 33:09Speaker 2: But it won't be the.
- 33:09Speaker 1: Same area, but yeah, you're right, it won't be the
- 33:14Speaker 1: same for everybody. But some stuff fizzle out way faster
- 33:19Speaker 1: than others. So it's so it's definitely a real thing
- 33:23Speaker 1: for sure?
- 33:24Speaker 2: What does whatever look like for you?
- 33:26Speaker 1: When I'm going, Uh, the memories, the stories about me
- 33:31Speaker 1: and and the things that I've done will still be
- 33:35Speaker 1: impacting people positively. That's forever.
- 33:39Speaker 4: All right, Well, the monic, we appreciate you for joining us.
- 33:42Speaker 2: Man a whisper because he whispered. Man just felt like.
- 33:57Speaker 7: Record about where they can get the candle since we
- 33:59Speaker 7: talked much about it.
- 34:00Speaker 1: What you want to play on the EP to no,
- 34:01Speaker 1: because I thinking cause they did just say speak up
- 34:04Speaker 1: loud and you can't help it.
- 34:05Speaker 2: That's who you are. I just don't know why he
- 34:07Speaker 2: did that.
- 34:11Speaker 7: You're trying to master the vibe.
- 34:12Speaker 1: That's right and what you want?
- 34:13Speaker 2: Have down bro?
- 34:15Speaker 1: The song let's do Let's do Dreaming, uh featuring key Clock.
- 34:21Speaker 4: Okay, here we go. It's Dreaming feature and key Clock.
- 34:23Speaker 3: Don't forget picked up the well I was gonna say,
- 34:25Speaker 3: pick it up and check out the e P Forever
- 34:26Speaker 3: Lasting tap and.
- 34:27Speaker 1: The candles the money forever dot Com or you can
- 34:30Speaker 1: just go on my social media asked me where to
- 34:32Speaker 1: get the candles. I'm a DM you the link I want.
- 34:35Speaker 5: To call you the candles, Yeah, because I got you
- 34:39Speaker 5: numbing there there you go.
- 34:41Speaker 2: This is a silly question, but I always think about
- 34:43Speaker 2: this right when t I did it ain't about the money.
- 34:45Speaker 2: Did you ever walk about around the house and your
- 34:48Speaker 2: siblings like if it ain't about the money.
- 34:50Speaker 1: No, it's the breakfast club.
- 35:00Speaker 2: Every day, a wake up, click your ass up, the
- 35:02Speaker 2: breakfast Club. You're finish, y'all done,