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- 0:00Do not F with Bitcoin. Defend the network.
- 0:04Don't F with the network. Make sure the network is
- 0:07healthy. Don't introduce risks,
- 0:12unnecessary risks to the network that might infect it with with
- 0:16the disease. It appears Michael Saylor has
- 0:19just drawn a line in the sand and has joined the spam wars
- 0:24debate. Now this clip we're about to
- 0:26watch and react to today is from a 2024 interview on what Bitcoin
- 0:31did. Actually think we did do
- 0:33something on this last year, but what makes it timely now today
- 0:38is a guy on X Bitcoin Anon did this edit, and it just so
- 0:43happens that Michael Saylor retweeted it, giving a subtle
- 0:47nod to knots and a possible blasting at what developers are
- 0:50doing in Core 30. But there's more in here.
- 0:54Did Michael Saylor hint that what Core 30 is doing could
- 0:58bring about the dumping of their Bitcoin holdings and bankruptcy
- 1:03for strategy? And hypothetically, what could
- 1:06that mean for BlackRock? Is Bitcoin Core 30 on the brink
- 1:10of collapse? Let's go, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:13we have a big one today. Sailor enters the spam wars.
- 1:22There's like a new guard of Bitcoin developers and an old
- 1:26guard of Bitcoin developers. The old guard's very
- 1:29conservative and the new guard is wanting, wanting to move out
- 1:33of the way because I want to do things.
- 1:34I want to build things. If you were to ask me my opinion
- 1:36on Bitcoin development, I would say consider it and
- 1:41conservative. And I think ossification is a
- 1:43straw man put forth by people that have a progressive
- 1:46proposal. And if someone says hold it now
- 1:48let's think about it, right? Like I say, well, you just, you
- 1:52just don't want to change anything.
- 1:54Well, I mean, the truth is I I think it's a mistake to presume
- 2:00that you have to change the protocol in order for Bitcoin to
- 2:03be successful. Right.
- 2:05OK. So you could almost like
- 2:07partition this between what is codes and expansion of what the
- 2:12protocol to do can do versus when like you said, integrity
- 2:17and security, protection of the network from catastrophic
- 2:20failures, attacks, hacks. Are you seeing?
- 2:25Those are two different things. Defend the network.
- 2:27Don't F with the network. Make sure the network is
- 2:31healthy. Don't introduce risks,
- 2:35unnecessary risks to the network that might infect it with with
- 2:39the disease. Let let me just make a point
- 2:42about philosophy though. The Bitcoin protocol is the
- 2:45essential governance. It's the government of Bitcoin,
- 2:50the nation if Bitcoin was a nation.
- 2:52The protocol is the body of laws that govern the nation, and the
- 2:56protocol has no statute of limitation.
- 3:00So for all practical purposes, when you put something in the
- 3:03protocol, it's like writing a law that might very well last
- 3:061000 years. So that being the case, if you
- 3:10ask me what is my philosophy about politics, I'm in favor of
- 3:15small government, not big government.
- 3:18I'm in favor of less, not more. I'm in favor of free markets,
- 3:23not government mandated agencies.
- 3:25If there's a choice between should the government do it or
- 3:28should a corporation or a free actor do it, I think the
- 3:31government should stay out of it.
- 3:33And in the same way I'm not in favor of big protocol, I'm in
- 3:37favor of small protocol. I'm in favor of do the minimum
- 3:43if if you believe the government should do the minimum to control
- 3:46your life, you believe that the protocol should do the minimum.
- 3:51Because it's very hard, you know, to reverse this.
- 3:53And if you look at the history of civilization, every empire
- 3:58starts small and struggling. It's the underdog and you're
- 4:03trying to struggle to live. And then at some point they win.
- 4:08And when they win, they conclude that they're they're the most
- 4:11virtuous. And then they get rich.
- 4:14And then when they get rich, they start creating more laws.
- 4:18And those laws get to be ridiculous and they create
- 4:22inflation. And I think most people in the
- 4:25Bitcoin community are against inflation and I think we're
- 4:27against regulation. And the whole, the whole irony
- 4:30is Bitcoin is a technology to escape oppression of inflation
- 4:35and regulation. So why would we want to
- 4:38encourage inflation in the protocol?
- 4:40Is it not absolute hubris to hold this belief that you have
- 4:45to change Bitcoin in order for Bitcoin to be successful?
- 4:49It seems to be a common trope. You know, among shit corners,
- 4:53NBC's small blockers, and all the other bullshit.
- 4:57I agree with Giga Chad, you don't with the network.
- 5:01We have one shot at this. Bitcoin or slavery is not
- 5:05entirely hyperbole. Jpeg's and stable coins do not
- 5:09empower individuals, they don't end the Fed and there are
- 5:12distractions to keep people poor and to extract value from people
- 5:17to then enrich themselves. It's the same old game.
- 5:23Basically. Bitcoin Core are like the pigs
- 5:25and animal farm. Some animals are equal but some
- 5:28are more equal than others. Bow before us.
- 5:32Well how about you shove your stupid rainbow shit coining flip
- 5:36flops up your corn holes? Now let's see what else Sailor
- 5:39had to say about inflation at the protocol level and what that
- 5:43can lead to. If I dump another million lines
- 5:46of code that does another when I'm adding functionality and
- 5:50performance and scalability via the features and I'm writing all
- 5:53this code, I'm in creating inflationary dynamics and the
- 5:57protocol, what is inflation? I'm I'm devaluing something
- 6:02else, whatever that else is. I might be undermining the
- 6:06security. I might be undermining the
- 6:08simplicity. I might be in the protocol is
- 6:11encroaching on the free market and code is law, right?
- 6:16When you write code, you're just writing a law in cyberspace,
- 6:19right? I mean, software developers are
- 6:22the lawyers of cyberspace. When they write law and you
- 6:27write code for your application like Cash App, it's a layer 3
- 6:32app. You're risking your shareholders
- 6:34money and your corporate credibility, but you're not
- 6:38going to crash the Bitcoin network.
- 6:40When you write code for layer 2, you've got to be a bit more more
- 6:43consensus driven because now there's 100 or 1000 other
- 6:46companies that have to work with your Lightning or work with your
- 6:48whatever and you have to go 100 times slower.
- 6:52But when you write code for Layer 1, the protocol today, we
- 6:56have $1.4 trillion and we are in the third stage.
- 7:01I think the second stage was like the block size wars around
- 7:05then where there was something very valuable and there was some
- 7:08serious issues to be worked out and you had multiple camps and
- 7:12the protocol did suffer inflation.
- 7:14SegWit was inflation and Christ, it took the block from one MB to
- 7:194 megabytes, right? So you could do things with a
- 7:24SegWit that you couldn't do before.
- 7:27It wasn't necessarily good for the Bitcoin miners, right?
- 7:30The point is if you increase the block size and and you change
- 7:33that dynamic, it's not clear you didn't bankrupt a bunch of
- 7:36Bitcoin miners that would still be in Business Today.
- 7:39So you know, we can go back and forth, but it stands to reason
- 7:43that when you add functionality or scalability or performance,
- 7:48you're actually depriving someone else in the ecosystem of
- 7:52their property rights of their opportunity.
- 7:54So that is inflationary and it inflates.
- 7:59If you, it'd be obvious if you just took 21 million to
- 8:0442,000,000, that's that's first order inflation.
- 8:07But when you increase the bandwidth from one MB blocks to
- 8:10four MB blocks, that's second order inflation.
- 8:13If I take the transaction bandwidth up by a factor of 100,
- 8:18that's hyperinflation of the bandwidth in the second order.
- 8:22That would bankrupt all the Bitcoin miners.
- 8:25And so if you bankrupt all the Bitcoin miners, you know,
- 8:28there's an ethical lapse, there's an economic lapse, and
- 8:30there's also a thermodynamic or a security lapse.
- 8:34And not only are you depriving the Bitcoin miners of their
- 8:37property, you're also depriving the Bitcoin holders of their
- 8:41security. And you're undermining the
- 8:43political stability, the economic stability of the
- 8:45holders as well as the miners. And you're doing it maybe to
- 8:50create fast blocks or more bandwidth.
- 8:53I accepted the risks of the protocol.
- 8:57When someone changes the the protocol so as to bankrupt me,
- 9:02right? They have actually deprived me
- 9:05of my economic rights and introduced a risk I didn't sign
- 9:07up for. Now that was a doozy.
- 9:09Risks that I didn't sign up for. That would eliminate his and
- 9:14Minnie's faith and trust in the stewards of the network, and
- 9:18possibly in the network itself. Kind of like this.
- 9:21Sacrificing sound money for Jpegs and arbitrage data is like
- 9:26going to proof of stake or the Purge or the Surge and the
- 9:29splurge and all the turds that come springing out of the mother
- 9:34of all shit coins. Ethereum.
- 9:38May it, may it rot in hell. But ironically a lot of these
- 9:43shit coining degenerates at course seem to admire Mr.
- 9:47Vitalik Buterin. Maybe it's the rainbow flip
- 9:49flops, but it probably explains their desire to well, act
- 9:54against consensus. Now we got to get to this clip,
- 9:57but before we do, and before you tell me to GFY in the comments,
- 10:01look at our likes 3 or 4 times. Maybe I pumped those numbers up.
- 10:05Those are rookie numbers in this racket.
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- 10:57first loan. That's that's the ethical
- 11:00distinction, which converts something in some cases from a
- 11:03commodity to a security. I'm a lawyer.
- 11:06I go to London, I lobby a politician to pass law making it
- 11:12illegal for soccer clubs to operate in Bedford.
- 11:14And in response, the lawyer passes the law because I gave
- 11:17him a campaign donation and I explained how I wanted to turn
- 11:20Bedford into the next Disney World and it's going to bring
- 11:24jobs at Disney. And I think that you would be
- 11:26irate if someone, if, if a lawyer or a lobbyist was
- 11:32lobbying for laws that impact your family, your business, your
- 11:36friends. And, and I would be like, oh,
- 11:38it's just the free market. OK, I went to DC and I got a law
- 11:42passed that made the pipeline illegal.
- 11:45Oh, who paid me to get the law passed?
- 11:46The other pipeline. So there's one guy that's got
- 11:49$50 billion because he's got the only pipeline and the and the
- 11:53second pipeline, pipeline was shut down by some lobbying in
- 11:57DCI view that as corruption. And so I think that if you're
- 12:03able to deprive some economic actor in your nation or your
- 12:08network of billions of dollars or millions or hundreds of
- 12:12thousands or trillions of dollars of economic property
- 12:16rights by lobbying to actually change the law, right?
- 12:21I think that that that introduces moral hazard.
- 12:24And so I think that I think that protocol changes, for example,
- 12:29proof of work to proof of stake, it destroyed the Ethereum
- 12:32miners. It was a very targeted protocol
- 12:36change that basically deprived, you know, what's it worth to
- 12:40basically do Ethereum mining? Well, it would have been worth
- 12:42$100 billion. What's it worth today?
- 12:450 Bitcoin would be a lot better if the protocol was stable.
- 12:50If you sacrifice the performance and the stability of the network
- 12:55to introduce altcoin crypto, you know shit coin features into the
- 13:00network, right? You've deprived people of their
- 13:03rights. If you hijack the Bitcoin mining
- 13:06net hardware in order to do other applications other than
- 13:11Shaw 256 hashing to defend Bitcoin, you've undermined the
- 13:15security of the Bitcoin holders. You have destabilized the
- 13:21network. You may have introduced all
- 13:23sorts of attack vectors for hackers and also also legal
- 13:29risks, regulatory risk and nation state attack vectors.
- 13:33And so there are lots of protocol changes that actually
- 13:38destabilize the network or they deprive some participants of the
- 13:43network of their rights to the benefit of others.
- 13:46And my position is I just don't think we should deprive people
- 13:51of their rights and I don't think we should use code in
- 13:56order to advantage 11 special interest group to the
- 14:01disadvantage of everybody else. Now a couple things that stood
- 14:08out to me in that one that would that would be the two words
- 14:11moral hazard, moral money, crypto.
- 14:15What does that have to morals in that?
- 14:16What the does that have to do with this stuff?
- 14:18Well, actually sound money has integrity, it has value.
- 14:23It enables and empowers individuals.
- 14:26It protects them from the most insidious creature entity on the
- 14:32planet in the central banks that have stolen time, wealth, energy
- 14:36from the public at in medium, especially since 1913,
- 14:41temporarily went off the gold standard to to fund World War
- 14:44One. And of course we had Woodrow
- 14:46Wilson, the worst president in history.
- 14:47All these things couldn't live with sound money because he
- 14:50didn't have integrity and value. You see how this works.
- 14:54And then you see how when when you start to degrade the money,
- 14:58when the money loses integrity and value, what happens to
- 15:01society like hell, obvious is it?
- 15:04This is what happens. Possibly not saying this, this
- 15:08in and of itself, but this sets a pathway towards something.
- 15:12And I think that line that he talked about destabilize the
- 15:15network. That's that's an interesting
- 15:17line because I've always kind of thought if there was, there was
- 15:20no, there would be no way. Like Bitcoin in and of itself
- 15:23can't be with unwithable money. The only thing that could slow
- 15:27down, deter, do something stupid would be to introduce some sort
- 15:31of social attack to get people to act not in their own best
- 15:35interest, either out of fear, coercion or just, you know, sly,
- 15:40roundabout ways. And this kind of feels like that
- 15:42kind of a little bit from both sides, going a little over the
- 15:45top. But maybe that's the purpose of
- 15:48it. But we'll get to more of that in
- 15:49just a second. Because guess who else signed up
- 15:51for Sound money? Uncle Larry.
- 15:54And guess who orange pilled him? Michael Saylor.
- 15:57And we used to bring in all these different people who were
- 16:01big believers in it, like Michael Saylor from
- 16:05Microstrategies. I mean, Michael came to her
- 16:07office with his with the stock was in the teens, but he was a
- 16:11huge believer that transformed his company.
- 16:13I mean, I could just say all these different people came in
- 16:15and talked and then we became, you know, we, we became a leader
- 16:20in working with the SEC and, and try and try to move forward in
- 16:25this and Fast forward out a little more than 18 months when
- 16:30we first started creating a Bitcoin ETF.
- 16:34Today it's I bid is $86 billion. Now we think about it, Gigachad
- 16:39is near what, like 700,000 Bitcoin?
- 16:42Larry Fink and the ETF's have gobbled up a million.
- 16:46If there were a way or means to or an excuse to dump on the
- 16:51public, something like this might be something that they
- 16:54would use possibly hypothetically.
- 16:57I'm just thinking, I'm brainstorming out here, but
- 16:59listening to what Gigachad said, knowing his ties with Larry and
- 17:03those things. Now, does that stop Bitcoin?
- 17:05No, but it would set it back for a long quite some time to to
- 17:10recover would be absolutely insane.
- 17:13Plus the hornet's nest that would come from that Bitcoin
- 17:16would continue. But as far as the path to the
- 17:19the world reserve currency, that would be definitely set back
- 17:22like a decade or two if something like that were to
- 17:25happen. Now, I don't think this does,
- 17:27but I do believe in the slippery slope when people act against
- 17:31consensus when that when they dish guard the network to
- 17:34implement things that don't provide value to the monetary
- 17:39network for which it was based and built to end central banks.
- 17:44It is, it is, it is base level money.
- 17:46It is the soundest form of money we've ever discovered or created
- 17:50and that's not something to be with.
- 17:53What I do think happens from here is that inadvertently they
- 17:56created a new free market when it comes to these clients.
- 17:58There may be different things that come from that in the
- 18:01future, but people will have alternatives and people will
- 18:04have alternative mining pools. Just like ocean is being
- 18:08introduced and now we have datum and stratum and people able to
- 18:11build their own templates. There may be markets for certain
- 18:14transactions there and all of this could just blow all over in
- 18:18the end. But when you have something
- 18:20precious, you want to protect it.
- 18:22And it's not because it's so much precious for us, it's for
- 18:25this future that we have an opportunity yet and we are in
- 18:28the midst of building altogether.
- 18:30Like I think even people like call BTC, we may disagree on
- 18:34some of this, but the dude is incredible.
- 18:36You see what he did with bit chat and this new iMessage app.
- 18:40You know, people are doing great things and we can't get lost in
- 18:42the weeds or allow something to turn into some sort of social
- 18:47attack or that gets others afraid of competition entering
- 18:52the market or understanding that your actions may have
- 18:55ramifications. And that's what happens when you
- 18:58lose trust. It's going to be very hard to
- 19:00gain back. And that's where knots has come
- 19:02in, people not running Core 30 or there's also a Libbit coin
- 19:07under development. So the free market is kind of
- 19:09blossoming from this. And I think the the what if it
- 19:13was all a psyop to get more people running notes, you know,
- 19:17at the end of the day, what if that was brilliant?
- 19:19But either way, let me know what you think below.
- 19:22And me and Sophie of each come out with an episode on the core
- 19:26versus knots in that. So we'll leave that at the end.
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- 19:51Oh and yeah, we just found out me and Opti are speaking so hell
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- 19:56Hey, hope you guys enjoyed this one.
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- 20:03You daily. Hey, I love you guys.
- 20:05Keep your head on the swivel, Sophie Dante.
- 20:07Oceans, heaters, bangers coming your way and well shit, I'll see
- 20:12you guys next time. Love you.
- 20:14If you prefer to go down with the ship.
- 20:17You.