Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / Iran war widens as Egypt & Saudi Arabia get pulled in
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The last twenty four hours have seen the war widen,
- 0:03Speaker 1: this time to Egypt, where a drone hit the port
- 0:05Speaker 1: of Damieta, setting two ships there on fire. It's the
- 0:08Speaker 1: first time that country has been targeted in the war.
- 0:11Speaker 1: No one has claimed responsibility, and today Iran's Foreign ministry
- 0:16Speaker 1: urged vigilance against what it called false flag operations designed
- 0:20Speaker 1: to undermine regional peace. The foreign minister also warned Cyprus
- 0:25Speaker 1: and Bulgaria against allowing the US to use their basis
- 0:28Speaker 1: to launch attacks on Iran. In another sign of expanding hostilities,
- 0:32Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, for the first time in this war joined
- 0:36Speaker 1: the US in a strike against Iranian backed militias inside Iraq.
- 0:41Speaker 2: How big is this.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Getting bigger and bigger, and it's moving almost inexorably toward
- 0:50Speaker 3: the west. Think of Western Front. We talked about that
- 0:54Speaker 3: in World War Two. Here it is the Red Sea,
- 0:57Speaker 3: the Suez Canal owned and operated by Egypt. Strikes on Jordan,
- 1:03Speaker 3: and the Iranians are also threatening NATO partners, saying, whatever
- 1:10Speaker 3: you do, NATO partners, don't allow your bases to be
- 1:14Speaker 3: used for strikes against US. So we're seeing a kind
- 1:18Speaker 3: of inexorable movement to the west here Vianna, and it's
- 1:22Speaker 3: very worrisome. Here's the play. The Iranians are pulling in
- 1:28Speaker 3: as many of the Arab states as they can, hoping
- 1:30Speaker 3: that they the Arab States will turn around put pressure
- 1:34Speaker 3: on the US to pull out. I think it's going
- 1:37Speaker 3: to backfire on them. And I'll close with this. I
- 1:40Speaker 3: am seeing pretty credible reporting that the Saudis are trying
- 1:45Speaker 3: to put together a coalition of Arab states in order
- 1:50Speaker 3: to push back on this red sea challenge they're facing.
- 1:54Speaker 3: So I don't think this is going to work for Iran,
- 1:56Speaker 3: but that's the game they're plan.
- 1:58Speaker 2: And you all and SO are looking at Moran reiterating
- 2:04Speaker 2: the Straight of Hormuz is going to remain closed. You
- 2:06Speaker 2: have fourteen mostly regional countries backing that maritime defense alliance
- 2:11Speaker 2: that's supposed to protect the shipping routes the global trade.
- 2:15Speaker 2: What does the future of global shipping through all of
- 2:18Speaker 2: these regional waterways look like in your view?
- 2:23Speaker 3: You've put your finger on why all this matters beyond
- 2:26Speaker 3: the pretty obvious day to day impact on the global
- 2:30Speaker 3: economy of shutting down a major strait. Why it really
- 2:34Speaker 3: matters is, broadly speaking, are we going to preserve freedom
- 2:38Speaker 3: of the high seas. Are we going to preserve transit
- 2:41Speaker 3: rights through straits around the world. Are we going to
- 2:44Speaker 3: protect our Suez Canal, Panama Canal and other areas of
- 2:49Speaker 3: the oceans that are so crucial to trade. So I
- 2:52Speaker 3: think again, you're going to see Iran's efforts here backfire.
- 2:57Speaker 3: It'll lead to the coal that you and I just
- 3:01Speaker 3: talked about of Arab states. But what I'm hoping for,
- 3:04Speaker 3: Brianna is the Europeans, who, after the United States and
- 3:08Speaker 3: perhaps China, had the third most powerful combination of worships.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Will the Europeans come into this alongside the US to
- 3:17Speaker 3: reopen this strait. I'm hoping that is what happens, and
- 3:22Speaker 3: that would be in that case, a real strategic mistake
- 3:26Speaker 3: by the Iranians to broaden this conflict.
- 3:28Speaker 2: And speaking of Europe, Iron's foreign minister actually worn to
- 3:32Speaker 2: European countries Cyprus and Bulgaria against allowing the US military
- 3:37Speaker 2: to use their basis. How much ability does Iron have
- 3:39Speaker 2: to back up those kind of warnings.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Limited but not completely benign, meaning if you look at
- 3:50Speaker 3: the ranges of their maximalist ballistic missiles, in theory they
- 3:55Speaker 3: could reach all the way to Eastern Europe Bulgaria, or
- 3:59Speaker 3: into the East Mediterranean, where the nation of Cyprus, not
- 4:03Speaker 3: a NATO member by the way, but a European Union
- 4:06Speaker 3: member sits. So again, Iran is pushing at the Arab
- 4:11Speaker 3: world to the west. Now we're seeing them push toward
- 4:14Speaker 3: the European world even further. Ultimately, I think this will
- 4:18Speaker 3: backfire on the mulas in Tehran. I hope it does.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Today, China's foreign minister dismissed reports from Reuters the Beijing
- 4:27Speaker 2: ascending three to four hundred shoulder fired air defense missile
- 4:30Speaker 2: launchers to Iran. That's according to the country's state run
- 4:33Speaker 2: news agency. US Intel had indicated that China was preparing
- 4:37Speaker 2: to deliver new air defense systems to Iran. So I
- 4:40Speaker 2: think that there was this expectation of that. That's what
- 4:42Speaker 2: CNN's reporting has been. What kind of concerns does this
- 4:47Speaker 2: raise for you? What does this look like.
- 4:51Speaker 3: It's not just the package of potential shoulder fired missiles,
- 4:56Speaker 3: whether that's a good piece of intel or assured, but
- 5:01Speaker 3: what it ought to worry all of us is if
- 5:05Speaker 3: China is going to line up alongside Iran to the
- 5:09Speaker 3: degree of providing military great hardware or even Briana components
- 5:17Speaker 3: that go into it. That's extremely worrisome because it gives
- 5:22Speaker 3: Tehran a lifeline. It's the phone of friend concept. They've
- 5:26Speaker 3: already Tehran worked closely with Russia. If Beijing starts to
- 5:31Speaker 3: step in alongside Russia supporting Tehran will have a bigger
- 5:36Speaker 3: problem that could final thought bleed over into the Pacific
- 5:42Speaker 3: as well.
- 5:43Speaker 4: What the President could do is what he might be
- 5:45Speaker 4: uncomfortable doing, and that's asking for help. If you have
- 5:49Speaker 4: those age allies that need the Strait to be open,
- 5:52Speaker 4: you have Europe partially dependent on Middle East oil, you
- 5:56Speaker 4: have all the Gulf states that play here as well
- 5:59Speaker 4: as Israel a major coalition to do two things. To
- 6:03Speaker 4: pressure the Iranians diplomatically with one full throated voice, but
- 6:07Speaker 4: also to exact economic sanctions on the Radians because we
- 6:10Speaker 4: know their pressure point. Maybe not so much as their military,
- 6:14Speaker 4: it's their economy that has to happen. But Jim, I
- 6:18Speaker 4: think ultimately this as general person says, this is going
- 6:21Speaker 4: to be a war of attrition. We're going to have
- 6:23Speaker 4: to grind down their military, but they're not going to
- 6:26Speaker 4: give in anytime soon.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Well, Ambassador, there's another credibility question too, because deals with
- 6:32Speaker 1: this president, I think one could reasonably say, don't always
- 6:35Speaker 1: hold up. Ask the Saudi's about the nuclear deal. Ask
- 6:39Speaker 1: for the president seems to be raising questions about his
- 6:42Speaker 1: promise to allow Ukraine to build interceptors under license. Ask
- 6:48Speaker 1: any US trading partner about trade deals negotiated in the
- 6:51Speaker 1: last months and several years. Why would Iran calculate rationally
- 6:57Speaker 1: that if it negotiates with this president that any deal
- 7:00Speaker 1: will hold well.
- 7:03Speaker 4: I think General Gibson is right. The Iranians are going
- 7:06Speaker 4: to wait us out. They think they're tougher and more
- 7:09Speaker 4: resilient than we are, and they don't have mid term
- 7:11Speaker 4: elections and public opinion to contend with, so I think
- 7:15Speaker 4: that's a factor here. That's why I think Jim your
- 7:18Speaker 4: question is a good one. I don't think the Iranians
- 7:20Speaker 4: are going to trust commitments made by Steve Whitkoff or
- 7:24Speaker 4: Jared Kushner or President Trump himself. It's why you need
- 7:28Speaker 4: to internationalize this conflict a bit to get other countries
- 7:32Speaker 4: that the Iranians do care about to come in with
- 7:35Speaker 4: the economic sections. The Saudis have this idea just floated
- 7:39Speaker 4: today of a coalition to try to secure shipping channels
- 7:43Speaker 4: in the Red Sea. The British and French have been
- 7:46Speaker 4: talking for well more than a year about a coalition
- 7:49Speaker 4: of countries that would come in to the Four Moves
- 7:52Speaker 4: eventually if there is a permanencyase fire or a durable
- 7:55Speaker 4: one to escort ships through the strait. So the US
- 8:00Speaker 4: cannot succeed on its own, it needs help from the
- 8:03Speaker 4: allies that the President has spent a lot of time
- 8:06Speaker 4: demeaning recently,