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Episode 63. Human Settings & Levi Ackerman vs. Wall-E (Feat. L.E. Reiner, Author) · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_03: You guys ready to do a show?
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't recorded one of these in like two, three weeks, isn't it?
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_03: I got too much going on.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_03: How am I supposed to contract that shit?
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_03: I just I I sh I make sure that I'm showered on the days you put in the calendar that you're coming over to record this.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_03: That's all I know.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, now everyone knows that we're showered for this.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: So hey everyone, welcome to High and Dry Podcast, the only podcast where we do all of our own stunts.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North, with me as always, James Crosslin.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: James, what's going on, man?
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, things are going okay.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, going really well.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_03: I I've had a have uh had a productive week.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_03: I've uh, you know, getting getting ready with my wife planning our move to to Southern California.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_03: We're pretty excited.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's a big deal, kind of, kinda scary to move.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't been in an apartment for many years, like had to live in an apartment for many years, so that's gonna be a change.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, now I remember your list.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: Remember when I climbed the balcony with you?
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, yes, I do remember.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_03: So that's the that's the time you saw my dick.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: Good times, good times.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: So joining, speaking of no, um, so joining us for the uh for the first time, brand new guest, L.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: E.
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  SPEAKER_01: Rhina, gothic romance and high fantasy writer.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, welcome to the show.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: How's it going?
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for joining us.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much for having me.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_06: I was super flattered when you guys reached out and said that you wanted me on here.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_06: So I'm super psyched to be here, a little nervous, but we're gonna have fun.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, we're gonna have a great time.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_03: Please don't be nervous.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_03: There are absolutely no stakes in this at all.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: No stakes.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_05: I get stakes, right?
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the stakes are they're they're not here to non-existent.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_06: They're literally non-existent.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_06: I'm very happy to be here.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much for inviting me.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_06: This is gonna be good.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_03: Our tens of listeners are gonna love it.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get started.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so uh yeah, so everyone, thank you for joining us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh this week we got uh Levi Ackerman of the Escape of the Uh Attack on Titan.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: Attack on Titan.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't even started drinking yet.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: Versus Wally, the Pixar Wally, the little guy.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but we also got some questions for you.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: We got some fun stuff to do.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: But before we do that, which makes us so special and so great, is first we gotta get a little drunk and we gotta get a little high.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: James, what are you smoking this week?
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_03: Uh this week I've got uh uh uh concentrate that has made an appearance on the podcast a few times.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_03: It is called God's Gift.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_03: And it certainly is a gift.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_03: It it uh chills out your entire body, relaxes your body, but your mind starts going a mile a minute, and uh hopefully that'll lead to some good conversation.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_03: Oh man.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_06: I have ADHD.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know if I could handle that.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I wouldn't, I wouldn't uh wouldn't suggest this one.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'll recommend it.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: Well, uh Ellie, what are you joining us with?
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: You're coming on as a drunk philosopher.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: What are you gonna be drinking?
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_06: So I'm actually not much of a drinker, and I wanted to be sophisticated for you guys and get something really cool, but then my basic side was like double chocolate stout.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what I'm perfect.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_01: Extremely basic.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_06: It's very um, it's very thick.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_06: I'll say that.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's got a great mouthfeel.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: It reminds me of Guinness, where it's like drinking a loaf of bread.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's very similar to that.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_06: It's from London.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: So okay.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's how you know it's good.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: They're known for their double chocolate stuff.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'll be joining you guys with Brothers Bond Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: I decided to treat myself for this one.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's got uh oh, it's got some really delicious notes on there, tobacco and cherry and things like that.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_03: Did you ever learn the vampire diary guy's name?
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I didn't think so.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: No idea.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: I desperately want him on the show.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't know his name.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: So so for people who are listening, and for Ellie, if you're not aware, the Brothers Bond Whiskey.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: One of the vampires, I don't rightly know which one, on Vampire Diaries.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, he created a bourbon, and it's actually really good.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_03: Probably the best bourbon that this show has had.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_03: And he's bought a lot of bottles of alcohol.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_06: That's what you're drinking right now?
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_06: Well, now I want to know.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_06: You peaked my ADHD, and I'm like, who made bourbon from Vampire Diaries?
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_01: I want to say it's almost two of them.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's like the two main vampires.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh tall hair, dark, brooding.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's all of them.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh it's got two signatures on the front of the bottle, but no, but they that's like a doctor's signature.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's totally unreadable.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_03: Paul Paul?
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_03: Is that Paul?
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_06: Paul Wesley and uh Ian Summerholder.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_06: There you go.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's Ian Summerholder?
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_03: That's his signature.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's like four letters.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't know how to spell it.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know how to spell my last name.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: Are you kidding me?
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: I just scribble.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: I act.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: All right, well, so Paul and Ian.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, get on the show, man.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: Let's drink some bourbon today.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_04: It'll be a good time.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: So here's our first toast, first hit, first shot.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: This one goes out to Carl Urban, Cher, and our newest guest, Ellie Reina.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, it's very strong.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_06: It doesn't taste like chocolate.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: I I I didn't imagine it was going to.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: Oh god.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: What will take us there?
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: What's it like?
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: So so I know not to do this.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_06: So it's actually not bad for a stout.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_06: It's really not all that bad.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_06: Um, I mostly liked the can.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_06: I wouldn't try it.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_06: Say that.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_03: That's the way all all alcohol is bought until you taste it.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: And then you have to make a decision.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: We made that mistake with Dead Guy Bourbon.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the dead guy.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he has nice and this nice little dead guy on the top.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_01: He looked really cool, but it's from Dead Guy IPA.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: And their gimmick was that it tastes like an IPA.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: Which isn't really why, especially when you're drinking a bourbon.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: But so yeah, that was a that was a fail on my part.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: And that was 50 bucks.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm never gonna give back.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_06: But I just came to a realization I pick alcohol the same way I pick books based on the cover.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: So the covers are so important.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_06: They are, they really are.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_06: If they don't judge a book based on its cover, and I disagree.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: I think everyone does.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, it it shows you how important, like having a good, how important artists and designers are.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um their skills are often devalued.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you try and get them to work for experience.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: But they're so important.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_06: Like, don't you want to be a part of something big?
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_06: And it's like, no.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_03: I want my fuck you, pay me.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_03: I want to do art and live my life.
• 7:22
  unknown: Right.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, God.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that brings us into our second toast, second hit.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: This one goes out to our newest listeners.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: These ones are from Schleinbach, Austria.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Austria.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't had an Austria before, so here's to Austria.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers, everybody.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
• 7:40
  unknown: Cheers.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_03: Good luck on fighting your your author your rise of authoritarian nationalism in Austria.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: It goes out to everyone, really.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: The flavor on this one's so good.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: What's interesting about the Brothers Bond is it hits your tongue with so much flavor, and then there's like no it vanishes in the back of your throat, and then you feel it again as it gets to your heart.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: So smooth.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, very yeah, I think they call that smooth.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just a slight burning once it reaches the normally we joke when we say smooth because it's swill.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but surprisingly.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_03: No, it's really good.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: Really good.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_03: We're not being paid by them at all.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_03: We're just really bad at advertising.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so Ian and Paul, consider this your build.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: This is you being built.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're gonna send a check for$10,000.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_03: So for others thought.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so that brings us into our third toast, third hit.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: This is guests toast.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: Ellie, what's it too?
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my god, I was not prepared to make a toast.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_06: Um to all the artists out there, independent artists who are trying to make it on their own, gather support along the way.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_06: We're all here for each other.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_06: I applaud you over all others.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_06: Your strength and your courage, because it takes a lot of courage.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: Here's to them.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: What's nice?
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Vampire Diaries.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_06: Did you ever watch that show?
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, uh, you know, I was forced once in a while, you know.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, you we all know you try a vampire media at least once.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm sure you watched one episode of Vampire Diaries at some point before that.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I probably did a fuck this nonsense.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, I I see what they're going for, and I appreciate the audience, and you know, I see it.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: You're not the target.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not the target.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not the target.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_06: That is just the greatest response to anything you just don't drive with.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_06: Just I see what they're going for, you know, it's fair.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_06: I see it.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel you.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just not your target, man.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, for anyone uh who's out there aging and quarry querying your novels, they hear that a lot.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I see what you're going for.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: You wrote that thing.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: That was 90,000 words.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's just, you know, it's just not me.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_03: Just not anybody.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_03: Take it and put it in the trash.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, so heartbreaking.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so it's time to get into this show.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: So how this works is first, you know, we got a philosophical question.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna break down to that fist fight.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um and the question I have for you guys, uh it's enjoyable.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't even know where I saw this.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think I I have no idea where it came from.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: But here's the premise.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: So you gotta take yourself there.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: You're hanging out and you're going at your ear with a Q-tip, like they tell you not to, you know, but you do it anyway.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: And uh all of a sudden you hear a little click, and in your vision, it shows human settings.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um and there's like a little debug.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: What do you start playing with, or what do you change?
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: What do you do in your human settings?
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Guests first, Ellie, what do you think?
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: What do you have?
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: What you just turned on your settings with a Q-tip.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: What do you adjust?
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_06: In my human settings, oh man.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_06: Um I don't know if you guys have ever heard that sound bite that's been going around on like TikTok and reels and stuff, but it's like this song, and then this voice comes on, it just says, turn it off, and then that person like drops every like emotional, like, you know, thing that they have.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_06: That's what I would do.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_06: I would turn all the emotions off and just do you imagine how much you could accomplish in life if you didn't feel anything.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_03: You would certainly accomplish a lot.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, just much like Hitler and Pol Pot accomplished very much.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: What did uh Gandalf, not Gandalf, uh the the other wizard that was ripped up, Harry Potter's wizard.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, Baldwin.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: He says he did great things.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_03: He did great and terrible things.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: Great and terrible things.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna flip on sociopath.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, I would though.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_06: I would.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_06: I would turn the emotions off.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_03: You know, that that's very fitting because you're the one who picked one of our combatants today.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like you are attempting to emulate perhaps a bit of his personality as well.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_06: Levi Ackerman, yes, my love.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I see that as like I see that.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, this is something that I've noticed.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh there is this, it starts, I think it started a lot with Death Note.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that there was like this, um, there was this kind of uh lionizing of sociopaths.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's been it's been kind of like this rising thing of people with no uh this like making making them seem very cool and like very capable, and not not really showing how in how in reality that is often reflected.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_06: So I love that you just mentioned Death Note because White Yagami is the perfect example of the charming sociopath who can get away with everything.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_06: I don't think Levi Ackerman's necessarily a sociopath, he does care about his comrades.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_06: But it's dangerous.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: But I felt uh see my thing with him, he he was always so unfocused.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like you have that book, you can you can start changing the world.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_03: Thank God he was unfocused, is all I have to say.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_06: I would say one flaw, and it was ADHD.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_06: Thank God.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_06: You know what?
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: You know what?
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_03: Here's yes, go on.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: So so let's make uh let's make a uh a pact here.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: Let's let's come to a compromise.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_03: Every sociopath also has to have ADHD, and then we're good, and we're good to go.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_06: And I also have ADHD, so there, maybe I'm trying to do my comment.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: So you're good to go.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_03: Not gonna accomplish anything, just now I'm you know random, random sporadic emotional.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_06: Well, I'm super curious to know what you would pick.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_06: I feel like that was like a rational pick.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, James, uh, you just uh you you stuffed a Q-tip a little too far.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's why they tell you not to do it when you turned on your human settings.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um Are there any other loadouts?
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_05: That's such a good question when I didn't ask.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_03: Can I can I get a different thing?
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_03: Can I be like octopus for a while?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you could do whatever you want, man.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_03: These are your settings, man.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_03: Gone to octopus settings.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_03: Pretty sweet.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like, don't change anything.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's octopus.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, my body's still my body.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_03: I just think I'm an octopus.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_03: Change nothing else.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_03: Drowning, dry drowning.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: Why did I do this?
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um, let's see.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_03: The things I would change.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_03: Well, physical settings, of course.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: I would play around with that.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'd make myself much fatter.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_03: The fat the fat the world's fattest man.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_03: That was the very first thing I'd do.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh no, I I'd like to scold my scold myself physically, you know, and then give myself you know, max health, you know, make sure I have like infinite health.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_03: I can fall off a building and I'm like, oh, it's okay.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_03: I'm only about half health.
• 15:45
  unknown: Yeah, I can do that.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh, human settings.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_03: What's the height of humanity?
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_03: You know, max out that run speed, that jump, that jump height, vertical, vertical.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, you just start fucking with your stats.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_03: And then I and then after I did that, I'd go all the way down and I'd see what that's like.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like just like having a really tough time.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: I I think it would that at least would help me gain empathy.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, to keep you humble when you go to the max again.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because I'm not staying there forever.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_03: It is the it is my privilege to be able to leave that whenever I want.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: A privilege I intend unutilizing.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_01: All right, all right.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: So just go full board.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Play around.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, play around, have a good time.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, for me, so you turn on the human settings.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, let's see here.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um let's see.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: So we got a sociopath, we got the god mode.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: I think you both are heading towards sociopaths being sociopath.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: Umath god mode.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um let's see.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we start playing with this settings.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'll um I mean, I guess I'd turn off I'd start turning off like physical needs.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like I would turn off sleeping and eating, you know, those sorts of things.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_03: But what about eating for fun?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, fair point.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, then I I guess I lose that.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_03: You could just roll it around in your mouth and spit it out.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like a like a lime tasting disgust people at my local Apple booth.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's alright, they're going out of business.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um I I would uh yeah, I would turn off like some needs, you know, some of those boring needs.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then I would, I guess, um, I I would uh I would go in there and I would tweak um like I guess certain I mean I guess in the same regard, I would try and tweak certain emotional tendencies, um you know, various negative habits that were put into me by you know like my parents and stuff like that.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I would turn those off so I don't have to fight those anymore.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, any sign of you know codependency or toxic masculinity or max out confidence, turn off self-awareness.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'd make myself a squid.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're all hanging out, so sociopathic squid people.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be a blast.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_03: We're we're just go hang out in real life with with Cthulhu, chill.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um or I or I would just pick out, you know, I would just start adjusting so I could I yeah, no, I'm going the same route, you guys.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna turn on superpowers and become a sociopath.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: There's two answers, I think.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: I guess we also none of us were like, no, I wouldn't change anything.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_03: This is one of those instances where I'm like, no, I'd want to fuck around.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm definitely fucking around.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, so Ellie, back to you.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh final thoughts on it.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: So you still got that Q-tip in your ear.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: You're still fucking around in the settings.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: Anything you want to change now?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: Anything you want to add?
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_06: I like your contribution about shutting off like the basic human needs, like sleep.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_06: There are so many times throughout the week where I'm like, if I didn't need to sleep, I would have like met so many deadlines by now.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I can take over the world.
• 19:19
  unknown: Yeah, exactly.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_03: Thank God you have ADHD.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_06: Honestly, yes, because I would have been too powerful without it.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_06: So thank God.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, no, I was it was weird.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: I was looking at a it was like an infograph today of um just dictators and their their body counts and the countries they took over, and you see Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Hitler, and there's Ellie.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: She was on a she was on a podcast once.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: You remember that, James?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: As we're like cutting rocks.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_06: So I would, if I were to be a sociopath, I would want to be a sociopath like Levi Ackerman.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_06: I know right from wrong.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_03: A sociopath for good.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: So like I'm not for good.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's exactly what I believe to be good.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: But we just we just have to trust you.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_06: I've got my Yagami.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_06: I believe I Ackerman.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_06: There's a difference.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, James, final thoughts?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, yeah, I really think, you know, it's it's an interesting question.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um it really asks you uh the thing, the only thing I think this really points out is the people who are like very content or scared of change.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_03: You know, those are the two people who would say, you know, I'd change nothing, or I'd only change very small things.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: I've never met that guy.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: You've never met someone who who's like fearful of change.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: I've oh fearful of change, yes.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: I've never met the guy who's content.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_06: Uh uh, I have to say, toxic positivity people, they're they're like uh it toxicity is a thing and it's disguise.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, for sure, for sure.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_03: So so yeah, so those people who are like who are insecure and and fearful of change or or or like you know, toxically self-empowered, like you said, though it really points out those people.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, I'd I'd change a whole bunch of shit because I'd love to get new perspectives on things.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh um yeah, I don't know.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: Play around with everything because I I want to understand that the human experience is like so incredibly broad.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: You can't you can't from your narrow perspective ever understand, you know, what another person's life was like.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_03: We're we're we have all such unique experiences that I'd love to try out.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: Give me all the perspectives, help me be a more complete person, please.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, especially if like you're playing with the settings and all of a sudden like you could go to sex, race, and you can just start screwing around in there, age.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um I what would it be like to grow up?
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely turn off age.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's gone.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's done.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, fuck age.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's yeah, that's gone.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'd go back to like one and a half, and I'd be the smartest ball fucking trick.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Could you imagine?
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so put yourself in your parents' shoes, right?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: And you got you got baby James in the um, you know, fucking the high chair.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, he just goes, Father, I'm I'm concerned with some habits that you're forming right now.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm 33, you understand?
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I see that you're utilizing habits that were useful to you in your youth but are no longer useful, and it's just causing you harm.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's also causing me harm as the person who's causing me learning from you.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: I I I cannot defend myself against your physical strength.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_06: That'd be terrifying.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my goodness.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: Imagine a baby explaining, I can't defend myself when you try and strike me or put out your cigarettes on me.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, imagine could there because there, you know, the thing is, the reason it would be terrifying, I think, is because all of us have like incredibly bad habits.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: And to have your fucking baby pointing them out to you.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_06: Is it weird that I was like thinking in terms of I'm I'm the baby and I would be scared to see my parents at that point?
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_06: Like, I don't like I'm scared on behalf of babies.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, that is like a crazy concept.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: Just because I mean, when you're a kid, all you know is to trust this person, and you have to trust that they took care of their mental health.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: And and that's not true.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: We're all of similar age.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_05: I know they didn't.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're all of similar age here, and we know that that generation did not.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Certainly didn't.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: And to now have the knowledge we have, the the self-care, the self-correction that we put into ourselves to suddenly go back and trying to explain to this adult who's obviously going to turn to physical force when you outsmart them.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_06: And let's think, we always outsmart that, and that's just our generation.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, I'm sorry, large human.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_03: We can cooperate on this.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: You don't, we don't have to be at odds.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: You are stronger than me.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: I understand that.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um I am terrified.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_04: I am terrified.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: That is what you want.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just to now look at your parents and say, like, hey, you know, I made that mistake when I was your age.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know, maybe rethink yourself, get some therapy.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um what are we talking about?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_06: My psychiatrist told me he was proud of me the other day, so I'm winning at therapy, everyone.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, congratulations.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, no, I I'm a huge proponent of therapy.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: I I think it's like brushing your teeth, man.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: If you if you don't go to a professional every once in a while to get yourself sorted out, you're just building those habits that are gonna compound, you know.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I think it's just self-care.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's why I don't that's why I don't brush my teeth because I'd be a hypocrite because I don't go to therapy.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna no maintenance.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_06: Honestly, spite is a huge like driving factor in my life.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_06: So out of spite, I went to therapy.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_06: And out of spite, I made myself a better person.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, well, then it worked out.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: You're doing better than your parents did.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna let it drive my entire being.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: No, man, we were talking about this before the show, even.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm thinking of uh, you know, some parents I know.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, just getting into their you know 50s and 60s now.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, hey man, when are you when are you gonna start working on yourself?
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_06: I think they're incapable.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_06: I think that age is incapable.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not really sure.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_03: There's this there's this sweet new thing that's been around for a long time called personal growth.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, my dad, my father taught me that personal growth is wrong.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_06: All right, then's for the week.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: And sorry, see you in next Christmas, I guess.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Why don't you want to talk to me?
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, this next one because that's all parents listening now.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so well, there you have it, folks.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: There's human settings.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's time to move into the second portion of this podcast.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: We gotta fight for you.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's Levi Ackerman versus Wally.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_03: This podcast is so dumb.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: But before we do that, it's time to get a little more drunk and it's time to get a little more high.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: So shit.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, did you hear that nice?
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I hooked up.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I did.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: Is that beer number two?
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't bring my weed in here.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: So you take your shot, then I'll take your shot.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: So James is joining us now.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna be doing a crossfaded fight with some brothers bond.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I forgot.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: Ian Sambisman and Paul, whatever.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_06: Ian somewhere older.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: Paul Paul Burler.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: I I just wrote, I just read it off of their signatures.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: So Ian and Paul was Paul Horm.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_06: I have to imagine that if your last name was that long, you would want to shorthand it, right?
• 27:24
  unknown: Yeah.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I guess so.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_03: I scribble.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_03: I I don't want anyone to be to know my name from my signature.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_03: How dare you uh expect to know my name at any given time?
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: This is my mark, accept it.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, here's to human settings, here's to our fighters.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh cheers.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_06: Cheers.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_06: I did have a thought when we were speaking of sociopaths.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_06: Do you think they ever wonder what it's like to feel things?
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um well, I think self-awareness is.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: But see that that's a that's an interesting interesting thing because there's that there's actually a movement of individuals.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um and when I was young, you know, when I was uh you know late teenager and early 20-something, you know, I'm I could count myself among them.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: But you have individuals who are so desperate on a world of eight billion people to find any sort of individualism that they convince themselves that they have some sort of Oh, I forgot about Tyler Durden.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_06: That happened.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you have the Tyler Durdons.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_06: Fight Club.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_06: I love that book.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_03: Do you see a trend among these characters?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm texting my therapist.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: Chill the fuck out.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_06: I just called the guy, okay?
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_06: I'm thinking fine.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: You're fine.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_06: You said I was doing good, okay?
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um but but you have that group of people, and you know, you just especially when you're trying to figure yourself out, you have um, like we were just talking about, mentorship figures who don't have the answers for you because they never took the time to get them.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: And you're so desperate to find those answers, you're so desperate for individualism that you're like, you know, you see start kind of gravitating towards, well, I guess I'm a sociopath.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: I guess I'm a Tyler Durton.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's only me.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm he has sweet abs.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know?
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess I do too.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_03: First first change in the human settings.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_03: Sweet abs.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_06: No, that's actually a very interesting point because I've noticed that a lot these days with women specifically.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_06: And I think it's an attempt to prove that we're not just driven by emotion, which is true because we're we're not, obviously, we're human beings, we're driven by the same things as anyone else.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_06: But sometimes I think that some people take it a little far and they like to pronounce that they're psychopaths or they're sociopaths or they don't feel anything.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_06: And it's like it's like a badge of honor, and it's like that's not good to not feel stuff.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what's what's interesting too is that if you meet an actual honest god psychopath, don't really give too much of a shit about what you think or that badge of honor.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_03: They're certainly projecting this thing upon the world because of probably emotions.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, absolutely, I feel like is what it is.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_03: Me think thou doth protest too much.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: He was actually talking about a sociopath, he meant.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody, I'm a sociopath.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_03: I don't care about anything.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's weird that you bring that up.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, interesting, interesting stuff there.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, every once in a while there's a glimmer of the profound.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_01: On this on this show.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: So speaking of profound, it's time to jump into our fight.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so this week we have Attack on Titans, Levi Ackerman versus Pixar's Wally.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: Abandoned, cute, adorable little robot.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, how does he fare against the sociopath?
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we're about to find out.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to High and Dry, y'all.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so how we do this, it's a three-round method proven to get you guaranteed results for those burning questions of who would win in Wally versus Attack on Titan.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we have three rounds.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: First round, we enter into a legally distinct fight club bar seated in an Applebee's because they can't sue us anymore.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: They're going out of business.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um where these two characters just punch each other to death.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: They don't get anything extra.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: We strip them down, we make sure that there's nothing hidden anywhere, and they just on Wally.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: We had to like disassemble and reassemble.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: It was a huge pain in the ass.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: We would have had Val Kilmer do it, but he died three episodes ago.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: He got murdered by the Velociraptor from Jurassic Park.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_01: We have our own universe.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: Eventually, someone will write a book about us.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be like a thousand years from now when they discover, you know, Buzz Sprout broadcast hosting service.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, so then we jump into round two where we zoom out into a city view, and these characters get everything that makes them them, and they can just go buy a shotgun.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: They have a world they can interact with, they can use everything, and they have 24 hours to kill the other one.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then we jump into round three, which is the same thing as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: So descending the stairs of the Applebee's basement, leaving behind the employees who wish who, for some reason, aren't making a livable wage.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um Tyler Durden now played by I don't know.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um fuck.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_06: Ian Summerholder.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Ian Summerholder is now playing Tyler Durden.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um gave him an excuse to work on his abs.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: He had to stop drinking bourbon, obviously.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um and he's now sizing them up, he's getting them ready.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, Carl Urban and Cher have been seated upstairs for another fight on High and Dry Podcast.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: Followed, of course, by the High and Dry philosophers joined this week, Ellie Rhina.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: So, pound for pound, punch for punch, what's gonna go down?
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_01: Ellie, what do you think?
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_06: So, this first round, I think, honestly, I hate to say it because he's the love of my life, but I think I think Levi's toast because Wally's a robot, and how are you gonna beat a robot punching?
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_04: Can't really kick.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like you can inflict so much pain on him, but he is he is a robot, and Levi's more than 5'5.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_03: Something like that, yeah.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: Used to using swords mostly.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_06: But he doesn't have his swords right now, right?
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_06: He does nothing.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_06: So I think Wally takes it.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, how can you win in a fist fight with a robot?
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: He's looking at uh Ethan, he's like, dude, what the fuck?
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: And he's and he's points at Cher.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: Cher will commit ultraviolence if you don't participate.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so yeah, I agree.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_03: I think that uh I think that Wally is incredibly maneuverable.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_03: We see how fast and nimble he is.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_01: And he's got heart.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and you know, that's the thing about human opposition of Levi.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's gonna come up again.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's gonna come up again.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_06: I think that will, actually.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think in this round it actually makes much of a difference.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_03: I do think it is important that uh that Levi has a heart that has to continuously pump blood and will tire.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, for me, I I see a situation here where Wally goes into his settings, turns off those emotions, and then like pulls out his blowtorch and like does some sick shit.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_06: More like Wally than Levi.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like he just like burns him slowly.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my god.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, oh yeah, no, even vampire diaries guys like, oh god.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, and he would have to go into a settings, but they did that in the movie, so that's not that far-fetched, you know.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I see a situation.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so take yourselves there.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: We're in the box seats of Applebee's Flight Club, right?
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and uh you gotta order on the secret menu for that.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, Wally runs over his legs, and you think, all right, that's gonna be it.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: He's just gonna like toothpaste him.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: But then he backs up and then starts like burning him.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_06: Um Levi.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_03: That's my prediction.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_03: He starts taking chunks of him and putting them in his little compactor and spitting out Levi cubes.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's like some fatality shit.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_05: This guy's really morbid.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's my bold prediction.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm I'm for it.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I yeah, I think uh I think we're all on the same page here.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um round one goes to Wally.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations, Wally.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so moving into round two, we've zoomed out into that apartment, that apartment view.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: We've zoomed out into that city view where both characters receive a manila envelope beneath their apartment doors.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, in the case of Wally, it's a trash heap.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: That instructs him that he needs to commit murder.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: At this point, parents are leaving the theater pissed off.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what do we think is gonna happen?
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, Ellie, moving to you.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_01: Guests first.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, how is this gonna go down?
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: 24 hours, they got everything that makes them them.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_01: He's the captain now.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he's the captain now.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_06: So that that changes things.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_06: Captain Levi's kind of a badass with his mobility gear and his parry blades.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_06: I think he might I think he might give Wally a run for his money.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_06: I guess that just depends on can those what is Wally even made of?
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_06: Steel?
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_06: Can that pure can his blades pour?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, so he survives in the vacuum with no problem.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's true.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_06: Honestly, I feel like this round might be like a stalemate because Wally can go into like the little box mode that he does, you know, and survive like the rocket blasts and everything.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_03: So well, let's break it down a little bit.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_03: So you're the Levi expert.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_03: Tell us a little bit about what Levi has accomplished throughout the series, like physically in fights.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_03: Let's hear some of his if you could go through some of his greatest hits really quick, that might give us an idea.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_06: I've been waiting for this question my whole life.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_06: So Levi Ackerman, known as humanity's strongest soldier, he his mobility alone is insane.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_06: If you've ever seen him maneuvering with his mobility gear in the tree lines or like wherever in the buildings of, you know, the walled city, wherever they're at, he's able to do like what the fans have referred to as bay blading.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_06: So he like spins like a freaking top with his hairy knives and he slices through Titans that are just 12 meters high, and it's like nothing to him.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_06: Like he has never lost a fight in all of Attack on Titan.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_06: He's just always been, even in the fights where he got like blown to shit, he still won.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_06: So I mean Yeah.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: But he's never been attacked by Wally.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_03: He's never fought a robot, right?
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_03: Or anything.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_06: No, but he's fought Titans.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_06: So like a tank?
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Wally hasn't fought.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_06: They refer to the the Titans as flesh mechas.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_06: That's what that's what they're known as.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_01: I am so glad that they don't make the Titans like completely anatomically correct.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: Because I mean, if everything was in proportion, there'd be a lot of swing songs.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, it would be like knocking church bells down, and you know, it would be like Can I just say one thing about that?
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_06: This is a little off topic, but I'm just gonna say it because there was a moment in a tag on Titan that I was really annoyed.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_06: They obviously didn't make the anatomical, like, you know, whatever on the Titans because for reasons that you just said, yeah.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_06: However, when the female Titan shows up, it's totally normal for her to have tits, right?
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, it's fine now.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's fine now.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was about to say, I was like, there are tits though.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_03: I was thinking that.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_06: Why does she have breasts?
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and they sure swing around.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's because they're amazing.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: Anyone has ever watched Japanese porn, and I know no one here has.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: But from what I understand, the only thing that's not blurry is breasts.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's true.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, okay, fair.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: That's a good that's a really good point to get around obscenity laws in Japan.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's total, that's totally that makes amazing sense.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: I was just gonna say the male gaze, because that's honestly all it is.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_06: Like, let's be honest.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_06: Because if you're the they're saying that the titans don't reproduce, obviously they can't.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_06: Then what are the breasts?
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: Well, so if the tits for giant giant tits.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what it what if I'm hearing this correctly, what I'm understanding here is that Ellie Rhino wanted to see Dick.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yes!
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_03: Either I want to see Dick or no tits, one or the other.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_03: I want to know.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you can't objectify one like gender and go.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: All or nothing.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_03: I want to see some balls, really right down to the knee, just taking out apartments.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_05: Just that dude standing in his apartment bed.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: Just that guy who's standing there looking out the window in the morning with his coffee and just inside out balls drag across his apartment.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_03: I want to see, I want to see one person with a bow and arrow just get like a really lucky shot and clip the Titan's balls just real slightly, and then the Titan goes down and just drop me.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_06: It's a colossal Titan, can you imagine?
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, just aim for the balls, boys.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's what Wally's gonna do.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_06: That one I think is gonna be a stalemate, guys, but I'd love to hear your opinions.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so moving away from Dick, James, thoughts.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: I can't anymore.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's just all Dick now.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um inside out, too.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just yeah.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_03: What would that even look like?
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_03: What would that be?
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my god.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, well.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_03: So I uh I think that in this case, it's really interesting.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think that in in this case, Wally can't really uh uh uh wear tire out uh Levi like he normally would.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um because uh Wally isn't particularly aggressive, you know, he doesn't particularly have this fighting instinct.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_03: If he had to do it to survive, he he would, right?
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_03: He he often does things to survive that he is morally objected to in the movie.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_03: You know, he thinks about it and he's like, ooh, this seems wrong, but also or someone I care about, or I have to survive.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_03: Wally actually has a lot of moral quandaries in it uh that the character has to face.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but uh but he's not aggressive, and uh Levi is.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that uh in this case that might give Levi the advantage of just like not not second thinking about destroying this robot, you know?
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, um that's a great point because Levi's been known in situations like that to not give up, like he doesn't let up, it's attack after attack after attack, like he his agility and like his stamina is like maxed out.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, here's what I'm thinking then.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: I I think the themes of the two characters here.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: See, Wally, you have a theme of none of us are an island, we need others, you know, in love and all that sort of thing.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, you have the captain.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_01: His theme is more never giving up when the cards are against you, all that sort of so I think in round two, when it's just one-on-one, yeah, I think his theme overcomes a theme of Wally's that requires like he eventually you know met, you know, the lady robot and all that kind of stuff.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I I then I think you just have pure anime syndrome coming at him with a katana, and I think that's uh that's a wrap.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_03: I'm kinda on that page also.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, well, well, uh Ellie, final thoughts and a vote.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: Final thoughts and a vote.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, I honestly yeah, I think if anything, Levi takes it for the second round because of that drive that you know he doesn't like you guys just said, physical attributes aside, the personality, Levi would win just in a bra.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he has he has a motivation to do harm uh that isn't isn't about them being confined in a in in an amorphous space where they have where one of them has to die, you know.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah in this in this in this case, Wally I think would try to run and because he doesn't want to fight.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that'd be such a sad movie.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_06: I know that really Wally being hunted by Levi.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_06: That's the only thing that made me hate him.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: You son of a bitch.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: You're a threat to humanity.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um all right, well, uh Jace.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: No, Levi.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_01: Levi's gonna do that.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh god, it'd be so sad.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, yeah.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I will I will add that so of all the the character versus character media out there, every other media I see that it's just pound for pound.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: And everything.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: We're the only ones who come up with a theme.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm not saying that we're, you know, superior.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm superior, but uh I'm not not saying it either.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_06: I'll say it.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_06: I'm superior.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: Just gotta flip off that that that self-awareness now.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_06: Well, and actually, I do write about the art of combat in one of my books, because I took Krab Magah for two years, so I know about fighting, but I also know it's not they teach you in Krab Magah specifically, because that's for women to learn self-defense.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_06: Then they teach you it's not about your opponent being bigger, it's not about them being stronger, it's about your technique and it's about your drive, and it's about your will to survive.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_06: And that's really what it comes down to.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_01: Your will to act immediately.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: No, and if you see his inside out testicles, you fucking pick them.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you grab them, you grab them, squeeze them.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_02: You twist the old grab and twist.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, round three, same thing as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: Guest first, Ellie, who are they bringing?
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: What happens?
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_01: Take us there.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_06: So I've thought long and hard about this, and I don't know if it's just like I just suck at making decisions or what.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_06: Wally would obviously bring Eve because that's his girl.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_06: And she's Eva.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_04: So much.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_06: He would bring Eve, and Eve, as we know, is super overpowered.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_06: She would destroy Levi Ackerman in a second, however.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_06: Levi would bring Aaron Yeager in his Titan form.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_06: That's the Jaw Titan, actually.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_06: Sorry if that's a good one.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you have to keep in mind that in the high and dry universe, we see his testicles.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, absolutely we do.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_06: But will that be a point of weakness?
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_06: Um with with the jaw titan on his side.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_06: That Titan can tear through anything, you know what I mean?
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_06: So I mean he's bit through tanks and like trains, and I think Levi gets this one, y'all.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_06: If he has the jaw titan, I think he gets this one.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_03: So you well, I think that you might be right if he's bringing Ava, but but Eve, she she's she's really powerful.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_03: She can like she can she can she can fly through things.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um we've seen her fly through material is gore chest.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she might she might be able to explode this titan from the inside before it's before it even realizes what she's doing.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um but maybe not.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, tough call, tough call.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, do you agree with who's coming then?
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_01: Is that are you adding anything to that maybe?
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_03: I think that maybe Wally would not bring Eve.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_03: I think that he I think that Wally, I don't know if you remember, uh Wally uh certainly reprogrammed the Axiom, which is the ship that the giant ship that controls all the people.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um Wally might bring the ship.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_05: He's bringing the Axiom O plate.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_03: And if that's the environment that they end up fighting on, because uh because we have to have an environment that they share, even if it's on the ground, uh once they get in that ship, uh the axiom is incredibly powerful.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's got a it's got an army of robots that it can extend its consciousness through.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, I think the axiom's pr a pretty powerful opponent.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_01: Also a very strong case.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I am gonna make the wild one, as always.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um I I agree entirely with Ellie's statement on who the captain's bringing.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_01: I I think that's clear who the fuck else are you gonna bring.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um emotional support, he doesn't need it.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um The only other thing I would say is so Wally was based off of the robot from Short Circuit.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um of the most powerful robots in all of existence.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_06: Obviously.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: The 1986 film Short Circuit.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: Which uh, you know, and if he brought Short Circuit, he's bringing 1980s kid power.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we're talking E.T., we're talking about I would also like to bring up another 1980s robot, Robocop.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: You think that he um and if we're talking Robocop, Ellie said something earlier that the captain is the ultimate soldier.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_01: And if we're in the 1980s, Jean-Claude Van Damme was the universal soldier.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_03: No, you're reaching too far.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I see happening.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: You've gone too far.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: Excuse me.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: And and if not, I think Wally's gonna bring you know his great-grandad fucking short circuit.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_01: And he's gonna fire like VHS tapes at him, and he's gonna win through the power of childhood.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: Untapped childhood.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be a wacky mistake that uh that sort of that they win.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_01: The captain trips over his like a log and breaks his neck.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um falls on him.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: But if we're playing inside of those themes, I think that uh the captain might bring light.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_04: Um shit.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_01: And he's gonna have a death note on his friend's side.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: But he's gonna be so fucking unfocused.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know, we need to talk to Ryuk, Ryuke.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: What was his name?
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Ryuk.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: Ryuke.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: Can can he kill inanimate objects?
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_06: No, you can't.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_06: You can't.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_06: I I don't imagine writing Wally's name in the death note would be successful.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and he's like, look, there's a lot of legal things here.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: You're talking, you're you want me to go up against Pixar?
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_06: Also, I don't that's copyright infringement, man.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_06: I don't think we're gonna win.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_02: Are you out of your fucking mind right now?
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_02: I I may be a demon, but Pixar is owned by Disney, and they're fucking demons.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_02: Have you met Michael Eisen?
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um I uh uh you want Dreamworks to hurt me again?
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think uh and so uh what what I see what what I see happening here when when they all go full bore and Wally has the option of friends, whether it's short circuit, whether it's you know, whoever the hell he decides.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just realizing you put forward a premise that sociopaths stick together something like that.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's not enough.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_04: That's not true.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I think now that so in in the previous round, I think Wally wasn't able to really pull it off because you know he he didn't have anyone.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I think now he has someone, and whether it's Jean-Claude Van Damme, whether it's it could be a plant.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, whether it's yeah, it's a plant.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: Happening all over again, the vice for and you'll see this scene where you know the the other Titan is coming, getting ready to destroy Jean-Claude, getting ready to destroy a house plant, any of those things, and Wally is gonna make that final B line for family.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's where you know we see round one happen again.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_01: And that's my thoughts.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's my thoughts.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_06: Wally prevails.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we we've seen that a lot.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_03: We've seen that a lot with like John Wick.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_03: John Wick, all his friends die.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you don't have any friends.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well, uh, well, Eli uh Ellie, um, final thoughts and a vote.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_06: It's weird because when I originally pitched these ideas, I was like, oh, Levi's totally gonna win because it's Wally.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_06: But after hearing these very convincing arguments, I mean, I think I think Wally stands a pretty good chance.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, yeah, I think actually Wally takes the first round, second round, Matt, third round, yeah.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_06: I give it to my boy Wally.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_06: Poor Natalie.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_03: All right, all right, James.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_03: Man, I'm torn just because like it's just like Natalie and Brullio.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_03: I'm crying naked right now, just I can't make this fucking decision.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's actually a really tough one because there's the raw power of of having a giant.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um like for for a thousand years, people people who don't know anything about the world have been afraid of giants.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_03: We still have people online who are like, there were giants, terrifying giants.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_03: Look it up, people really believe it.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, so uh I don't know.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_03: Having a giant like and they're titans are kind of fast too, right?
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_03: I would say they're they're fairly fast.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_06: Um the jaw titan, especially, is very agile.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say I don't know.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna I'm abstaining.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting stance.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um Wow, okay.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna Switzerland it.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, alright, alright.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um I gosh.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_01: I so alright.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm looking at it.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking this may be the hardest fight.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_02: Wally the hardest fight we've ever encountered.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, I stumped ya.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: I may have to take another little swig here.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, James, would you like another little swig?
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: No, no?
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm gonna have to say.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_01: So Wally is gonna bring in you know, the fucking um, no, no.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna bring in the robot from Rocky III.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_01: And um then you can bring in Big Hero Six.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_05: He's gonna bring in Chappie, too.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_01: The Chappie.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I mean, he's got he's got all of Pixar behind him.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_05: And fucking Pixar, man.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: So listen, we'll just start with what we have.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, let's not go too deep.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I'm gonna have to vote here for a tie.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that means Wally takes it.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_03: Because Ellie said Wally.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, Lee.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_01: So our so our opinions don't matter.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_01: We all agree.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we all agree.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_01: Wally was gonna take that one.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um so congratulations, Mr.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_01: E.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: You have taken it.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, does he identify that way?
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: I um I don't think he has it.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_03: He doesn't have I think his gender is up to him, but they certainly f they certainly, in my mind, feminized Eve, right?
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, they really did, yeah.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_03: They feminized Eve, which makes me think that Wally is intended as a male, but it they don't really they don't really well.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_01: I think if you're sitting there in the movie theaters getting pissed off over two robots' genders, that you have other things that you have to worry about.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_06: Seriously, right.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_06: Like it could be either way.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_06: They could oversexualize Eve, I want to say.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, that was like way too much, but Wally could be either gender.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: We need it to be clear that she is a woman.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they really made sure you knew Eve was yeah.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, someone in the writer's room was super attracted to that robot.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_06: Well, I'm super attracted to that robot.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_06: Have you heard her voice?
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: Essentially anything that can sexualize.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh god, the the the longing in that voice.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, real 31.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, when she goes, when she goes, Wally, and he goes, I'm like, oh you, you got me.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh you you seductive robot white egg with a face.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_06: Oh god, that feminizes it even more, doesn't it?
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's it and like holding holding holding new life in her in her component.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_06: Holy shit! I never even thought about that.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, dude.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_06: She has it in her like most of the time.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_06: That's nuts.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna have to watch that movie again.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_01: And this is this is the kind of stuff you only get in the last five minutes of an hour-long podcast.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_01: We did it.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_01: We went way too deep into some material.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're changing culture, uh, one listener at a time.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so there you have it, folks.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_01: So there you have it, folks.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Wally takes it, whatever the pronouns are there.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations, Wally.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and thank you so much.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's Ellie Rina, um, uh gothic romance high fantasy writer.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Ellie, thank you so much for being on here.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_01: Where can we find you?
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_06: Um, like online.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_01: Or like in general, I don't know.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is your question.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_01: You can answer however you want.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_06: You can so um I'm on Instagram mostly.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_06: Um, I do have books available on Barnes Noble and Amazon.com.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_06: I am the author of the Divine Beings series, which is a high fantasy series, as well as The House of Mad, which is a gothic romance, and I will be published in an anthology later this year.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_06: So nice.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_04: Woo!
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_06: It's a seven deadly sins anthology.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_06: Guess which sin I'm writing, can you guess?
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_03: Hold on, what are you doing?
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um see, I'm gonna so alright.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, so it's been an hour here.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_01: All right, we talked about uh there's a desire for sociopathy.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there was a sexualization of social media.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: It could be wrath, it could be um she's drinking chocolate beer, it could be sloth.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_02: Gluttony.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um she just sits there while these two o's just rip apart her personality.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say wrath.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_06: You're gonna say wrath?
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's actually sloth.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_01: So you were oh dang! There's the chocolate beer.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_06: This type of story is called The Master of Nothing, and it'll be in the anthology of Fate and Fury in June.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_01: Nice very cool.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_01: Out for people, it thank you so much for coming on the podcast.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_01: People listening, this was entirely her fight.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: We had no input.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_06: And thank you for debating it with me.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_06: That was so much fun.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah, we're so glad to have you on.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, if you listen to this, you uh know where to find high and dry podcasts.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for listening.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: Bye.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: Bye, miss the stuff.