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Speaker 1: What if everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy.
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Speaker 1: We are the breakfast club. Now we are fed up,
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Speaker 1: We're angry, hurt and tired. The country is wounded. The
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Speaker 1: phrase I can't breathe is embedded in our minds forever.
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Speaker 1: The inhumane treatment and senseless murder of George Floyd has
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Speaker 1: to be the final straw. This was not the first time,
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Speaker 1: but this has to be where it stops. For almost
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Speaker 1: ten years, we have been the voice of our community,
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Speaker 1: working to push our culture forward, focusing on educating our
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Speaker 1: listeners on entrepreneurship, real estate, mental health, education, and the
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Speaker 1: importance of being politically engaged and informed. We have always
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Speaker 1: had diverse guests and are open to the tough conversations.
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Speaker 1: In that spirit, today we are having a candid conversation
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Speaker 1: with fellow broadcaster Rush Limbaugh. Why are we having this
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Speaker 1: conversation with someone whose historical viewpoints differ so significantly from
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Speaker 1: ours and who we represent, because the dialogue has to
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Speaker 1: be open beyond who we know or who we talk to.
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Speaker 1: Every morning. Today, Russia's listeners will hear us, probably for
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Speaker 1: the first time ever, what we are witnessing in our
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Speaker 1: nation right now is not normal, and it compels our
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Speaker 1: attention to understand every side and look for ways to
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Speaker 1: bring this country together and stop the senseless killing of
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Speaker 1: our people. So we will start with a conversation that
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Speaker 1: we think might be the first step. Ladies and gentlemen,
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Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh. Every Democrat candidate for president this year has
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Speaker 1: made it their business to appear on the Breakfast Club,
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Speaker 1: and now it's it's my honor to appear on the
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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Excuse me, even though I'm not a Democrat. Now, guys,
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Speaker 1: can I tell you why I wanted to The George
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Speaker 1: Floyd story is being lost right. There are two things
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Speaker 1: happening in America, and it sickens me what happened to him.
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Speaker 1: Legitimate national outrage about a policeman's criminality has been hijacked.
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Speaker 1: And I don't want to forget about George Floyd. What
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Speaker 1: happened to George Floyd sickened me, and I wanted to
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Speaker 1: reach out and tell you all this. I want to
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Speaker 1: make sure you have no doubt, and I'm not the
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Speaker 1: only American who feels this way, the senselessness of it.
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Speaker 1: You know, we're only given one life. We don't get
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Speaker 1: to do over we only get one. We all take
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Speaker 1: it for granted because it just happened. We're born, we
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Speaker 1: don't even remember that. But George Floyd had his taken
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Speaker 1: away from him. He didn't lose it, he had it
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Speaker 1: taken away from him in a stupid way. And I
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Speaker 1: think most Americans are just as angry and sad about
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Speaker 1: this as I am. And I'm also angry to cops
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Speaker 1: that stood around there and didn't do it thing to
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Speaker 1: stop it. It was just I can't tell you how
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Speaker 1: frustrated it is, and I just I just wanted to
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Speaker 1: share the emotion I have with you guys about this
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Speaker 1: and to try to convey to you that I actually
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Speaker 1: think most Americans are just as sickened and outraged by
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Speaker 1: it as I am. Yeah, And you know what, one
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Speaker 1: of the worst things is that I feel like we're
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Speaker 1: so accustomed to being in these situations where we get frustrated,
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Speaker 1: where nothing happens, and these police officers are back out
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Speaker 1: doing the same thing over and over again. And that's
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Speaker 1: part of the frustration is this is not an isolated incident.
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Speaker 1: This is something that's been happening in our community for
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Speaker 1: it hasn't stopped. We don't see when it will stop,
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Speaker 1: and I think people are frustrated, and it's a combination
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Speaker 1: of so many different things. Right now, Well, that's I
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Speaker 1: think absolutely absolutely right. If you look at the the
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Speaker 1: actual circumstance here, you had what happened to him, It's
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Speaker 1: on video. You've got the cop, the cop standing there
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Speaker 1: almost looking like he's bragging or having fun exerting power.
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Speaker 1: How stupid is the cop? Can the cop not be
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Speaker 1: aware of what we in this country are going through
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Speaker 1: precisely because of what he's doing at that moment? How
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Speaker 1: can anybody be that in sense? So they've or stupid.
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Speaker 1: It's beyond me to understand. It almost felt like that
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Speaker 1: the more that people were telling him that he was
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Speaker 1: killing him and that it was blood coming out of
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Speaker 1: his nose and that he was lifeless, but he really
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Speaker 1: felt like just looking at his face, I think that
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Speaker 1: was probably the closest thing to a devil that I've
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Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. It was his ego that
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Speaker 1: just allowed him to keep applying pressure and applying pressure
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Speaker 1: and taking that man's life. I can't let me answer
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Speaker 1: your question, Russ Charlomagne talking, We've seen numerous police killings
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Speaker 1: of one armed black people in this country. Why is
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Speaker 1: the George Floyd's situation the one that's making you say,
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Speaker 1: enough is enough and this needs to stop. Why why
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Speaker 1: is this situation in particular because I'm fed up with
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I mean, I'm not tolerant of any
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Speaker 1: of them, but I'm I'm just I'm fed up with it. Charlomagne,
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Speaker 1: none of this to me, And I know, I know
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Speaker 1: that you're going to disagree with me on this. To me,
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Speaker 1: this is not America. It's a it's a it's a
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Speaker 1: it's a sad. Oh no, it's definitely America. Well, I see,
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Speaker 1: but it's it's not what we can be. It's not
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Speaker 1: what we have been. We're the greatest nation of history
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Speaker 1: of the world, and we haven't achieved that on the
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Speaker 1: basis of mood over us or not. I think I
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Speaker 1: think that. I think it's easy for you to say
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Speaker 1: because you're you're a white male and that comes with
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Speaker 1: a different level of privilege. And I do think America
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Speaker 1: does work, but it works for the people that it
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Speaker 1: was designed to work for. It doesn't work for everybody
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Speaker 1: else the way it works for you. Well, it can,
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Speaker 1: that's the point of America. It can for anybody who
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Speaker 1: wants to adapt to it, for anybody who wants to
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Speaker 1: try to take advantage of the unique opportunities that exist
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Speaker 1: in the United States. We're the only nation that's ever
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Speaker 1: enshrined the concept of individual liberty and freedom and are
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Speaker 1: founding documents. We're the only country that's ever created a
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Speaker 1: document to govern ourselves by that limits government. Now, Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's it's you know, I look, but George Floyd wasn't
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Speaker 1: doing anything wrong. Brianna Taylor got killed in her house.
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Speaker 1: She wasn't doing anything wrong. And so it's not that
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Speaker 1: people haven't adapted to things. It's just that we get
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Speaker 1: targeted and then there's no punishment when the police officers
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Speaker 1: commit these crimes against us. No, no, we talked about
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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to conflate that George Floyd could have
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Speaker 1: stopped what was going to happen to him. I don't misunderstand.
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Speaker 1: George Floyd is the essence of innocence. But what I'm
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Speaker 1: saying is is that America is a place with robust
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Speaker 1: opportunity if you want to go out and look for
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Speaker 1: it and find it. Now, the people ripping up the
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Speaker 1: streets today and last night, the Antifa types. They don't
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Speaker 1: care to find the they disagree with the whole constructive about. Well, no,
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Speaker 1: I gotta push back on you with that too. It's
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Speaker 1: not just the antif for types. You know what I'm saying, Like,
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Speaker 1: like you see all these white folks out there protesting
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Speaker 1: luten raising. Hell, you know what I'm saying, Let's not
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Speaker 1: act like there isn't forty million people who have filed
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Speaker 1: for unemployment in America. Folksmen sitting around the last three
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Speaker 1: months waiting on stimulus checks. Than forty four percent of
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Speaker 1: those people who have been denied unemployment checks are still
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Speaker 1: waiting on them to come. People of all races are broke.
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Speaker 1: They don't know where their next meal from. Their savings
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Speaker 1: are exhausted if they had any, They don't know how
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Speaker 1: they're gonna pay bills. So of course they're gonna go
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Speaker 1: out there in loot. Of course they're angry and frustrating.
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Speaker 1: It turns out unnecessarily, there's no reason to shut down
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Speaker 1: the country, and there's no reason to lock everybody. Of course,
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Speaker 1: you put forty million people out of work and tell them,
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Speaker 1: you know, you penalize them when they do try to
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Speaker 1: open their businesses. You're gonna create a powder keg. A
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Speaker 1: powder keg has been created. But that's right, That's why
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Speaker 1: I can't. That's why I can't. That's why I can't
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Speaker 1: allow you to say that it's just Antifa out there,
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Speaker 1: because it is a lot of white people who are fair.
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Speaker 1: But the anti people, the Antifa people, are the violent ones.
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Speaker 1: The Antifa people are the ones that are trying to
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Speaker 1: capitalize on it. There's, of course, there's some legitimate, heartfelt
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Speaker 1: people out there peacefully protesting. But look you guys, let
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Speaker 1: me tell you, you are a testament to the opportunity
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Speaker 1: available in America. Look at you. How did you do it?
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Speaker 1: Why did you have to overcome to become a breakfast
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Speaker 1: club and why did you have to overcome become dominant
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Speaker 1: in morning drive in American radio? Who held you back
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Speaker 1: or what were you able to overcome in order to
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Speaker 1: do it? The opportunity is there is the only thing
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Right. But you know, you talk about peacefully,
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Speaker 1: you talk about peacefully protests, right, And you were very
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Speaker 1: opinionated about Colin Kaepernick, and he was peacefully protesting, right.
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Speaker 1: And now what people are saying, oh, they're not peacefully protesting.
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Speaker 1: This is the same thing Colin Kaepernick was kneeling for
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Speaker 1: that the world was so upset about and the world said,
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Speaker 1: he's taking it too far and he doesn't know what
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Speaker 1: he's talking about. This is exactly the reason why he
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Speaker 1: was kneeling in protesting the fact that an unarmed African
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Speaker 1: American man was doing nothing. They still don't even know
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Speaker 1: if he had a fake ten twenty dollar bill and not.
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Speaker 1: He and that man kneeled on George Floyd for damned
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Speaker 1: in nine minutes and killed that man, murdered that man
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Speaker 1: and looked at us like, yeah, I'm doing it, and
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Speaker 1: what you guys, I'm trying to tell you, I'm all
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Speaker 1: with you. I'm one thousand percent with you on This
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Speaker 1: is why I wanted to talk to you because I
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Speaker 1: know that that there are you know, we all have
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Speaker 1: preconceptions that we live under and biases that we live under,
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Speaker 1: and I wanted to reach out to you guys, specifically me.
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Speaker 1: You were you were the ones that I was told
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Speaker 1: to speak to that that this is intolerable. I'm happy
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Speaker 1: to have the conversation and I'm glad you're having it
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Speaker 1: because I think your audience needs to hear it. And
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Speaker 1: you know, you said something a little while ago, and
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Speaker 1: I want to just, you know, talk about that. You know,
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Speaker 1: this is this is a country America that denies you know,
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Speaker 1: black people justice and just playing decency. And then they
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Speaker 1: act like we're just supposed to be happy to be
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Speaker 1: here because it allows a few of us. To me,
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Speaker 1: did I say, majority of us out here catch what
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Speaker 1: you said? You said? You said, you know, you guys
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Speaker 1: made it. Y'all are successful, you know what I'm saying, like,
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Speaker 1: But but the rest of us are catching hell out here?
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Speaker 1: All right? George Floyd and isolated and Charlotte Man, you're
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Speaker 1: adding things to my mouth that I did and say
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Speaker 1: you're adding syllables I have not uttered. I was trying
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Speaker 1: to be complimentary of you, and I'm trying to illustrate
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Speaker 1: that you are an example to others that want to
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Speaker 1: try you can succeed. Let me ask a question. If
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings had announced two nights in combing they
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Speaker 1: were gonna hire Colin Kaepernick, would the riots have stopped? No?
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Speaker 1: I want to go about that. What I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: you guys Kaepernick, his name is Kaepernick, and the reason
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Speaker 1: I brought him up to do and I'm just asking
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Speaker 1: if the Vikings had signed him, would that would the
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Speaker 1: people have been this, Oh good, Okay, it's got a gang.
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Speaker 1: You know, we're not gonna protest because that's not gonna
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Speaker 1: stop white supremacy. That's not gonna stop racism. Okay, we
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Speaker 1: gotta all right, Peter, George Floyd. But this that was
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Speaker 1: not an Isola incident. This is a regular occurrence. Let
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Speaker 1: me add black people in this country. How do you
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Speaker 1: how that? Being don't want to change the system, how
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Speaker 1: do you A question for you? You? I want to
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Speaker 1: know if how are you going to use your privilege
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Speaker 1: of the white male to combat this prejudice? You you
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Speaker 1: gotta do side. I don't. I don't buy in no way.
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Speaker 1: I don't buy the notion of white privilege. See. I
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Speaker 1: think that's a liberal that's a liberal political constract right
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Speaker 1: along the lines of political correctness, is designed to intimidate
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Speaker 1: and get people shut up and admit they're guilty of
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Speaker 1: doing things they haven't done. No, I don't have I
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Speaker 1: don't have any No. You know what white privilege is.
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Speaker 1: White privilege is that what would happen to George Floyd
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Speaker 1: would not have happened to a white man. Right if
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Speaker 1: if if what happened to George Floyd had happened to
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Speaker 1: a white man, we probably wouldn't even have heard about it. Huh.
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Speaker 1: You definitely would have heard about it. You definitely would
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Speaker 1: have been you definitely would you definitely George. People get
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Speaker 1: killed by if George. There's a lot of instances where
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Speaker 1: this does happen and we don't hear about it. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of times that there's no video that exists,
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Speaker 1: and then people are police officers lie and they say
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Speaker 1: this is what happened, just like we've seen it happen
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Speaker 1: so many different times where fortunately there was video. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of cases that won't make it that he
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Speaker 1: about virus. You never hear about that, never make it
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Speaker 1: the TV, that never make it to social media. Because
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Speaker 1: I know what I said, guys, I said, if George
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Speaker 1: Floyd were white, we wouldn't have heard of this, And
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Speaker 1: if the same thing had happened him, we wouldn't have
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Speaker 1: heard about it. It wouldn't have been you would you
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Speaker 1: You'd be just right, you probably wouldn't hear about it.
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Speaker 1: And you know why because that guy would have been arrested,
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Speaker 1: he would have been a fired, he'd been charged with
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Speaker 1: murder long time before all of this, immediately before before
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Speaker 1: the video hit it the social media, he would have
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Speaker 1: been charged, fired, arrested, locked up in all that. If
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Speaker 1: George Floyd was white. There's a there's a Muslim. I
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Speaker 1: think there's a Muslim officer in Minneapolis now doing twelve
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Speaker 1: and a half years because he accidentally killed a white
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Speaker 1: woman and on duty. So I mean, I don't, I don't,
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Speaker 1: I don't get it, But let me ask a question.
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Speaker 1: It was because I remember in twenty fourteen you criticized
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Speaker 1: President Obama and you said he should do more to
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Speaker 1: ease racial tensions in the wake of the grand jury
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Speaker 1: decisions to not indict the white police officers in Ferguson.
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Speaker 1: You said, if he wants to, he can inspire, and
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Speaker 1: I think it's called for in this situation. Shouldn't that
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Speaker 1: same advice apply to President Trump right now? Absolutely? I
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Speaker 1: think it applies to all presidents. Absolutely, no, no question.
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Speaker 1: But that's one of their roles is to calm circumstances
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Speaker 1: and situations like this. But look, can I ask you,
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Speaker 1: you keep harping on white privilege and racism, would you
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Speaker 1: tell me how to end it? What? What can we do?
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Speaker 1: To end this so that you are not frustrated and
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Speaker 1: angry and feeling like whatever you feel like, because I
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Speaker 1: hate you guys as that you're angry all the time.
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Speaker 1: So what can we do to stop the racism? Here's
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Speaker 1: the thing, right, Um, as long as they as a
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Speaker 1: system of white supremacy, you know, they will always be
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Speaker 1: these type of situations. You know, it doesn't matter who's
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Speaker 1: in the White House. If that person is not willing
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Speaker 1: to dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy, if that person
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Speaker 1: is not willing to change legislation that disproportionately impacts black folks,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, you know what I'm saying, Like, we've
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Speaker 1: seen this a million times. Tell me what happened. You
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Speaker 1: had four years of Barack Obama. You had you had Americans,
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Speaker 1: white Americans voting for Obama because they wanted to say,
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Speaker 1: we're not racist, We're not a racist country. You had
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Speaker 1: people electing the first African American president in our history.
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Speaker 1: He sure for eight years. Why isn't there anything to
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Speaker 1: show for it that makes you less angry than you were? Then,
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Speaker 1: once again, it doesn't matter who's in the White House,
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Speaker 1: if that person is not willing to dismantle the mechanism
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Speaker 1: of white sumon. Guys, the elections don't matter now. I
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Speaker 1: think that when you when you, when we got to
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Speaker 1: stop acting like white supremacy isn't done by design. The
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Speaker 1: whole function of systemic racism is to marginalize black people.
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Speaker 1: And it's very hard to get any damn near eighty
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Speaker 1: year old white man to change his system that's been
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Speaker 1: working for him in his family for years. I don't
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Speaker 1: care if it's Biden art Trump. So once again, we
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Speaker 1: need people that are willing to dismantle the mechanism of
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Speaker 1: white supremacy. Okay, let me let me ask you, guys,
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Speaker 1: why do you still vote Democrat? I vote for whoever
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Speaker 1: I think is the best candidate because Democrat has been
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Speaker 1: promising to fix your grievances for fifty years, and you
15:29
Speaker 1: have the same grievances, you have the same complaints. They
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Speaker 1: haven't done a damn thing for you. They haven't even
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Speaker 1: punished the people that you think are responsible for the
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Speaker 1: racism and bigotry being done to you. Why do you
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Speaker 1: keep supporting them? And you know I don't disagree with you,
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Speaker 1: and I don't That's why I'm not letting nobody politicize
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Speaker 1: black pain and tell us that this is one person's
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Speaker 1: fault just because they are trying to win an election
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Speaker 1: in November. This is America's fault. And the war on drugs,
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Speaker 1: mass and conceration, said aggregation, slavery, all of those things
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Speaker 1: are and have been the proverbial knee on the back
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Speaker 1: of black folks neck and tell somebody is willing to
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Speaker 1: dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy, nothing is going to change. Well, Russ,
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Speaker 1: I also don't want to lose check of what we're
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Speaker 1: talking about here, because I know we're trying to focus
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Speaker 1: on George Floyd and what's happening with him and how
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Speaker 1: can we take some actionable steps to move forward and
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Speaker 1: what can be done right. So on your end, what
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Speaker 1: are some things that you feel like cops should be
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Speaker 1: charged with first degree murder? And I think that the
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Speaker 1: guys standing around ought to be charged. The other cops
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Speaker 1: that we're standing around, I think it's it's time to
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Speaker 1: end this. Look, we we are all aware of police brutality.
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Speaker 1: We're all aware of the actions that some wrong cops take,
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Speaker 1: and it's way too many of them against African American men,
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Speaker 1: and it's time to stop. And you know, I'm not
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Speaker 1: a policeman, I'm not an executive in a police department,
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Speaker 1: but it seems to me that if those people end
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Speaker 1: up being charged and instead of shielded when they commit murder,
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Speaker 1: it shouldn't be the illegalized murder, and that would be
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Speaker 1: one way to at least get a start on making
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Speaker 1: sure it doesn't happen. This. George Floyd was, for everything
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Speaker 1: I've been able to tell, was a good guy. He
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Speaker 1: was a nice guy, had a family, and said did
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Speaker 1: not even come close to deserving having his life taken
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Speaker 1: from him, like, not at all, not at all. Now,
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Speaker 1: do you agree with the way that the media's portraying
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Speaker 1: everything You're in media, and you know media's white media,
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Speaker 1: of course, do you do you agree with how they
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Speaker 1: portraying everything that's going on right now? Oh? God, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't think we've gotten the truth out of most
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Speaker 1: media in three or four years. I don't know. And
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Speaker 1: I think that's another reason why people are mad. You guys,
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Speaker 1: they know they've been lied to. They were lied about
17:48
Speaker 1: so many things for two three four years now, and
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Speaker 1: so now they don't know what to belief coming out
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Speaker 1: of the media, and I don't care what it is Fox, CNN,
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Speaker 1: New York Times, Washington Post. There doesn't seem to be
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Speaker 1: anywhere in our culture that people have trust in an
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Speaker 1: institution or series of institutions that provide a backstop and
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Speaker 1: reliability when something like this happens. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: creating or contributing the even more of the unrest that's
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Speaker 1: happening out there. Rush, How would you advise Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: to handle this situation? Because I see that he's having
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Speaker 1: some issues. He's calling people thugs, he's talking about sticking
18:24
Speaker 1: the dogs on people if they try to come into
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Speaker 1: the White House. But then you see how he treats
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Speaker 1: people who are protesting to stay at home order and
18:30
Speaker 1: they have guns, and they're white people, and they're fine people.
18:33
Speaker 1: So I just want to know what advice would you
18:34
Speaker 1: give to the president right now to say, this is
18:37
Speaker 1: what we need to do, and this is how you
18:38
Speaker 1: should handle it, because I don't think that he's handling
18:40
Speaker 1: it properly with his verbiage. I think what the president
18:44
Speaker 1: ought to do is use the God given humility that
18:49
Speaker 1: he has that and don't doubt me that he does.
18:52
Speaker 1: He has. He has a lot of human nothing humble
18:54
Speaker 1: about the president come out now there is even and
18:57
Speaker 1: every rally you will see his ego, his appreciation the
19:02
Speaker 1: people that show up. But it's it's simple matter of
19:10
Speaker 1: understanding he's president of everybody here and trying to quell
19:15
Speaker 1: these moments of unrest is something that would be really,
19:21
Speaker 1: really to his advantage. I think what you said about
19:24
Speaker 1: Obama in twenty fourteen applies when when you said if
19:26
Speaker 1: he wants to, he can inspire, and I think he's
19:29
Speaker 1: called for in his situation. But I look at the inspire,
19:33
Speaker 1: I think he wants to insight. Okay, first, I do
19:37
Speaker 1: agree with you about the inspiration. I think I think
19:39
Speaker 1: he can. I think he should. I think all presidents
19:43
Speaker 1: should in terms of Trump and sighting. Look, the guy
19:47
Speaker 1: has had everybody and their uncle telling lies and falsehoods
19:52
Speaker 1: about him for three and a half four years now,
19:54
Speaker 1: and he's probably a little fed up with it. Before
19:58
Speaker 1: the shutdown happened, look at what black unemployment was, it
20:01
Speaker 1: was a record low. The number of African Americans have
20:04
Speaker 1: had jobs, the wages that were going up, and then
20:07
Speaker 1: this virus comes along and the bottom has pulled out
20:09
Speaker 1: from it. He's got to be frustrated. As as he
20:12
Speaker 1: can be. And I'm not trying to carry his water.
20:15
Speaker 1: But the black black unemployment rate started going down under Obama, touto.
20:19
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's one thing that Trump takes credit for.
20:21
Speaker 1: It had actually started under President Obama it did. Okay,
20:25
Speaker 1: Well that's then cast you a question to Russ. Yeah,
20:32
Speaker 1: moving forward, all right, because you know the cops. Say,
20:35
Speaker 1: let's say the cops get arrested, the cop gets charge,
20:38
Speaker 1: you go to jail. Great, how do we dismantle white
20:41
Speaker 1: supremacy as a whole moving forward? Well, that's another show, guys,
20:46
Speaker 1: Because A I don't, I don't. You'd have to define
20:49
Speaker 1: what it means to you? What what? Because I don't.
20:52
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I am a white supremacist, and
20:55
Speaker 1: I don't think there's much white supremacy going on out there.
20:59
Speaker 1: But I need to have your define. See, this is
21:01
Speaker 1: one of the divides. I'll tell you. I'll tell you that.
21:04
Speaker 1: To me once again, this system is designed to work
21:07
Speaker 1: for the people that it was built by, and that's
21:09
Speaker 1: white folks, particularly all white men. And now that people
21:12
Speaker 1: have had enough because those white folks I spoke about earlier,
21:15
Speaker 1: who are out there, you know who really love black
21:17
Speaker 1: people as much as they love black culture, and they're
21:19
Speaker 1: out there standing with black folks and they want to
21:21
Speaker 1: fight with us. I think this is the tipping point,
21:24
Speaker 1: and we right now are at a point where we
21:25
Speaker 1: can finally force America to live up to his grand
21:28
Speaker 1: promises of liberty and justice for all and not just
21:31
Speaker 1: liberty and justice for white folks. It has that's my
21:35
Speaker 1: back to the beginning of it has. It's out there.
21:39
Speaker 1: You guys have done it. Look we're out of time here,
21:42
Speaker 1: but would you guys like to do this again where
21:44
Speaker 1: we pick it up right from this point and make
21:46
Speaker 1: it maybe make a white supremacy, not if we're just
21:51
Speaker 1: gonna dance the whole time, if you if you're gonna
21:53
Speaker 1: have some honest conversation with us and stop telling us
21:55
Speaker 1: things like white privilege, sharks and you don't know what
21:59
Speaker 1: white supremacy is. If we could do that, yes, well, Rash,
22:03
Speaker 1: I'm very into having with having these into having these
22:06
Speaker 1: conversations because I do think it is important for white
22:09
Speaker 1: people to acknowledge the heart that they've inflicted on the
22:12
Speaker 1: African American community and to be able to come forward
22:15
Speaker 1: and admit that we can't even move forward until that happens. Yeah,
22:19
Speaker 1: I was attempting to do here with all of you
22:22
Speaker 1: today on the white supremacy thing. I'm not in any
22:25
Speaker 1: kind of denial. I just know that it's a politically
22:28
Speaker 1: charged element of the Democrat Party's politics and liberalism. And
22:32
Speaker 1: I do not cave or compromise or give one iotas
22:37
Speaker 1: of an inch to liberalism no matter what. So white
22:41
Speaker 1: white supremacy or white privilege is a construct of today's
22:45
Speaker 1: Democrat Party, and I'm not going to agree with any
22:48
Speaker 1: aspect of it as they put it forth. I'm not
22:51
Speaker 1: denying that there are certain individuals out there I think
22:54
Speaker 1: they're better than other people, but structurally, institutionally white supremacy. See,
23:00
Speaker 1: that's it's don't You can't see You can't see how
23:03
Speaker 1: white people are just treated better in this country and
23:06
Speaker 1: even just as fire as how many people get pulled
23:08
Speaker 1: over and by them. We don't have these conversations, but
23:12
Speaker 1: we gotta be honest with each other, like you gotta
23:16
Speaker 1: people proportionally they're getting shot by the car. You set
23:20
Speaker 1: these things up. You have no idea how if and
23:23
Speaker 1: I can imagine what you're gonna say. If I sit
23:25
Speaker 1: here and say you have no idea. How I have
23:28
Speaker 1: been mistreated by various elements, various groups, various companies, various individuals,
23:33
Speaker 1: my whole life. It's called wife, and it happens, and
23:38
Speaker 1: we're all mistreated. I've been fired nine times in my career.
23:43
Speaker 1: But have you ever got don done out your car
23:45
Speaker 1: because you were driving a nice car? I got just
23:48
Speaker 1: pat it down just for being black. I've had my
23:51
Speaker 1: car kid, I've had my tires blown up for I'm
23:55
Speaker 1: talking about throwing out your call by a police officer
23:57
Speaker 1: because you're black, driving a nice car, or walking down
24:00
Speaker 1: the street in Queen's the Air where you're from, and
24:02
Speaker 1: the police pulling you over and patting you down. Has
24:04
Speaker 1: these things happened to you? Don't talk about I didn't
24:07
Speaker 1: got shot at, they didn't shout out my car. Don't
24:09
Speaker 1: talk about keying a car and popping attire. I'm talking
24:12
Speaker 1: about ouse. You're blacke nothing. I'm a hermit and the
24:17
Speaker 1: reck close and I don't. I don't go out and
24:18
Speaker 1: do all that kind of stuff. No, that's kind of
24:20
Speaker 1: stuff that's never happened to me. I'll grant you. I
24:22
Speaker 1: want to ask you one more question before we get
24:23
Speaker 1: out of here. However, I've never had the cops assumed
24:26
Speaker 1: that I have. Well, I actually know that isn't true.
24:29
Speaker 1: I haven't rush stop. I have not pursued by the
24:33
Speaker 1: cop so I was pursued, but absolutely I have. But look, guys,
24:37
Speaker 1: let me thank you again forget no, no, let me
24:39
Speaker 1: thank you again for giving me the time today and
24:41
Speaker 1: I having access to you and at least the chance
24:44
Speaker 1: to talk to you. I do appreciate it, and maybe
24:47
Speaker 1: we can do it again. I look forward to it.
24:49
Speaker 1: Thank thank you, Rushing. I didn't want to know why
24:51
Speaker 1: you think rest in peace? That's right. All those white
24:55
Speaker 1: kids out there on the front lines protesting and fighting
24:57
Speaker 1: with black people, I salute them, But why do you
25:00
Speaker 1: Why do you think they're out there, Russ Because they're
25:02
Speaker 1: fed up with what happened to George Floyd. They're fed
25:05
Speaker 1: up with this situation that will not stop, that caused
25:08
Speaker 1: all this and provided the opportunity for all this to happen,
25:11
Speaker 1: meet the opportunity to protest and riot. There are more
25:13
Speaker 1: Americans fed up with it than you know. That's my point.
25:17
Speaker 1: What about America? Though? You don't think that the fact
25:19
Speaker 1: that there's forty million people who file for unemployment the largest,
25:24
Speaker 1: the largest unemployment rate since the Depression era. You don't
25:27
Speaker 1: think that they're fed up about that too? Well, I
25:29
Speaker 1: already acknowledged that earlier in the conversation. You can't put
25:33
Speaker 1: forty million people out of work. But I'm telling you
25:36
Speaker 1: that you have a lot of sympatico people out there.
25:38
Speaker 1: White people were marching in the sixties with Doctor King.
25:41
Speaker 1: They were. In fact, Doctor King's death did not cause
25:45
Speaker 1: this kind of strife in this country. King Jia is
25:49
Speaker 1: dead because of racism and white supremacy. Uh well, okay,
25:55
Speaker 1: if that's your answer to everything, then I don't know
25:58
Speaker 1: how we're we're going is he's dead because he was
26:02
Speaker 1: fighting against racism in white supremacy. Thank you for the conversation. Now,
26:10
Speaker 1: this was a serious conversation, at times, an uncomfortable conversation,
26:15
Speaker 1: even though we have vastly different viewpoints from Rush. It
26:18
Speaker 1: was an open conversation to have because the dialogue must
26:20
Speaker 1: be open beyond just our community if we are ever
26:23
Speaker 1: going to get a real change from all people. This
26:26
Speaker 1: is the breakfast Club