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BONUS: Scheme Roundtable - 4 Questions About The Ohio State Offense · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special bonus episode. We have added
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  Speaker 1: a new Scheme Insider to our team at BuckeyeInsiders.com. His
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  Speaker 1: name is Justin Whitlatch. He joins Ross Fulton and Michael
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  Speaker 1: Pettit on our Scheme Insider team. And one of the
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  Speaker 1: reasons we wanted to bring him in is we wanted
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  Speaker 1: to have more conversations about Scheme because that has been
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  Speaker 1: a very popular topic among our members as well as
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  Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel. And on today's show, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to have Justin and Ross here to talk, just kind
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  Speaker 1: of do a little bit of a roundtable on where
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  Speaker 1: things stand with the Ohio State offense and answer some
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  Speaker 1: questions that people have been asking, some common things that
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  Speaker 1: we're seeing on our board and on Twitter, lots of
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  Speaker 1: discourse around the Ohio State offense. We're going to try
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  Speaker 1: and sort that all out here. We're going to start
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  Speaker 1: with short yardage. That's a spot where all you have
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  Speaker 1: to do is fail once and then it's immediately a crisis. So, Justin,
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  Speaker 1: when you watch Ohio State in short yardage right now,
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  Speaker 1: What do you see? Is it good? Is it bad?
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  Speaker 1: Where do they need to get better? Where are things
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  Speaker 1: going wrong? Or is this not really a problem at all?
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a couple different factors when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to their short yardage. Obviously, they're in a lot heavier
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  Speaker 2: personnel that everyone's been talking about. I think when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to that, you can do that schematically. It's perfectly fine.
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  Speaker 2: But what can your kids execute? And right now, up front,
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  Speaker 2: I think the more defenders and the heavier we get,
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  Speaker 2: I think we struggle to ID the linebackers, A, we're
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  Speaker 2: climbing to, and that we need to take care of
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  Speaker 2: who are the most dangerous linebackers to get to the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And I think we've struggled tight end-wise to understand who
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  Speaker 2: we need to climb to. And there's a clip in
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  Speaker 2: my video where a tight end should have been climbing
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  Speaker 2: to the third backer in the box, but then we're
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  Speaker 2: climbing to the second backer with a tackle. So then
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  Speaker 2: we're leaving a defender unblocked, and they're able to make
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  Speaker 2: the play. So I think scheme-wise, perfectly fine. They've been
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  Speaker 2: even in the box, I think, We've just struggled executing
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  Speaker 2: it from a player standpoint. So if they can't execute it,
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  Speaker 2: then you've got to be able to adjust your calls
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  Speaker 2: and your concepts. And I think that's kind of where
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  Speaker 2: they're at. And so moving forward, I think you will
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  Speaker 2: see a little bit different personnel and formations just to
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  Speaker 2: see if they can clean up the read in the
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  Speaker 2: run game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. At some level, you have to separate.
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  Speaker 4: Short yardage between the twenties and low red zone in particular. Right.
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  Speaker 4: And like, just, just to focus on the low red zone,
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  Speaker 4: it is in general, I mean, it's, it's a tough place, right?
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  Speaker 4: Like it's the field shrunk. You don't have the vertical threat.
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  Speaker 4: And so like you get safeties near the box. And
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  Speaker 4: when you don't have a quarterback run threat, that makes
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  Speaker 4: things even more difficult. And so like, you know, the,
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  Speaker 4: the clip that Justin, you know, showed the other day
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  Speaker 4: in his video, when they tried to run power down there, like, yes,
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  Speaker 4: if they had executed that perfectly, you know, Bo Jackson
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  Speaker 4: would have been one-on-one with that safety and maybe he
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  Speaker 4: would run him over, but you, you do have an
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  Speaker 4: unblocked hat there, even if everything goes according to plan.
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  Speaker 4: And so I, you know, I think it's going to be,
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  Speaker 4: it's a challenge so long as they don't have a
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  Speaker 4: run threat of quarterback to reequate numbers. And I think they,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they have a couple options they can do.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I thought like if you looked at the
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  Speaker 4: chiefs on Sunday night, for instance, like they really still
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  Speaker 4: spread out in the low red zone. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and still use RPOs. So that's, that's a way they
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  Speaker 4: could try to go. I mean, you can do wildcat things.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think day has ever really shown much interest
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  Speaker 4: in that, but you, you do see it or, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna have to execute. Well, I would point out though,
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  Speaker 4: they do keep, um, iterating and trying different things. Like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Justin and I both pointed out, they ran
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  Speaker 4: down G on Saturday. We both really liked that as
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  Speaker 4: a short yardage play. I like particularly in the low
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  Speaker 4: red zone, better than power. they showed that one formation
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  Speaker 4: where they had Jeremiah Smith as sort of the backside
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  Speaker 4: tight end. I think you'll see them run some play
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  Speaker 4: action and do different things off of that with him
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  Speaker 4: in that position. So I don't think it's for lack
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  Speaker 4: of trying right now in terms of trying different things scheme-wise.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely agree with that. When you get down inside
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  Speaker 2: the five, it really comes down to can you win
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  Speaker 2: your one-on-ones? because the box is going to be such
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  Speaker 2: a count where you're going to be even and you've
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  Speaker 2: got to win those one-on-ones. And that's, I think, we're
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  Speaker 2: also falling into some of those issues where we're getting
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  Speaker 2: beat up front in those one-on-ones. So then how do
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  Speaker 2: you adjust? To me, and like Ross pointed out, what
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  Speaker 2: does Julian do well skill set-wise? He throws the RPO
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  Speaker 2: and the quick game really well, in my opinion. He
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  Speaker 2: also throws some of those three-step, like the levels concepts
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  Speaker 2: they run, the flood game, the curl flat, some of
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  Speaker 2: those three- to five-step concepts he throws well. So if
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  Speaker 2: he throws the RPO well, then I think they should
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  Speaker 2: start to evolve what they're doing inside the five with
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  Speaker 2: those RPOs. You can have man-beater RPOs inside the five.
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  Speaker 2: So like your double slants, your replace routes, your glance
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  Speaker 2: route that they love to run to Jeremiah, you can
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  Speaker 2: just run a shorter version of that and still be
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  Speaker 2: able to read defenders to take away some of those
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  Speaker 2: guys in the box. So I definitely think there's stuff
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  Speaker 2: that they can definitely start to adjust to. I think
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  Speaker 2: they've got to play to their player strengths a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So earlier this week, there was a lot of question
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  Speaker 1: about the Ohio State tight ends. And that's something that
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  Speaker 1: has come up in some of the videos you guys
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  Speaker 1: have done this week that there are guys who maybe
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  Speaker 1: aren't hitting the right blocks or not making the right decisions.
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  Speaker 1: And so there's sort of this natural inclination, I think,
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  Speaker 1: for Ohio State fans to look at, well, the wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver room has typically been very good and the tight
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  Speaker 1: ends aren't playing particularly well right now. So, okay, should
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  Speaker 1: they have more wide receivers on the field and fewer
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  Speaker 1: tight ends on the field? And Ryan Day was asked
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  Speaker 1: about that on Tuesday. Talked about all the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: we always talk about when this comes up on our
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  Speaker 1: listener question shows and blocking surfaces and all those kind
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  Speaker 1: of fun things and changing the angles in the run
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  Speaker 1: game and all that. But there was a question about
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  Speaker 1: 10 personnel, which is, of course, one running back, zero
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  Speaker 1: tight ends, four wide receivers. And I know Ross has
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  Speaker 1: lots of thoughts on 10 personnel. We'll let him answer
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  Speaker 1: this in a minute. So let's let Justin go first
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  Speaker 1: on should Ohio State be running more 10 personnel this year?
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  Speaker 2: Again, as a coach... what are your player strengths and
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  Speaker 2: how do you evolve your offense? If you come to
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  Speaker 2: the situation where you're just trying to run, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's a menu of personnels and concepts. You got to
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  Speaker 2: be able to evolve what your base is. I don't
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  Speaker 2: really think they've determined yet what their base is going
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  Speaker 2: to be because I think they're struggling ID wise in
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  Speaker 2: the box. So I think you got to first start with,
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  Speaker 2: are you, are you going to be able to be explosive?
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  Speaker 2: Can you move the ball? And then can you have
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  Speaker 2: a starting base and scheme and then improve upon that?
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  Speaker 2: I think, in terms of player strengths this year and
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  Speaker 2: what they have in that tight end room, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's probably a good call to start going into turn
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  Speaker 2: personnel and just to see what do you have from it. Again,
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  Speaker 2: like we just talked about, Julian can throw the RP
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  Speaker 2: on the quick game. Well, if you're in two by two,
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  Speaker 2: three by one, you've got four receivers being able to
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  Speaker 2: attack defenses. You have more options for your quarterback. You
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  Speaker 2: also force defenses to be lighter. So they're going to
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  Speaker 2: be a more nickel and dime personnel. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that plays in favor to, to the running game, which
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  Speaker 2: we always talk about them being, They don't have their
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  Speaker 2: explosive in the running game as well. If you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be able to lighten the box and you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be able to go against nickel and dime personnel,
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  Speaker 2: you should have more success in the box because you're
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  Speaker 2: going to lighter bodies and your offensive linemen will have
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  Speaker 2: less guys in the box to worry about. So conceptually,
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  Speaker 2: just to think of it in my mind, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's probably a good move just to see what you
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  Speaker 2: got moving forward. But I don't want them also to
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  Speaker 2: get stuck in. We're trying all these different things. We
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  Speaker 2: don't have a base. We have a menu of plays.
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  Speaker 2: What can we hang our hat on? What can we
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  Speaker 2: do to move forward when we're hanging our hat on?
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  Speaker 2: So I don't want them to get stuck there, but
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  Speaker 2: I do think trying to, I don't know, run 10
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  Speaker 2: to 12 plays of it on Saturday, just kind of
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  Speaker 2: see what you got, I think is a good move.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's ironic the question was asked because this is
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  Speaker 4: the first year that I can remember under Ryan Day
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  Speaker 4: that they've ever used 10 personnel. I highlighted with you, Tom,
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  Speaker 4: you know, after the Texas game, that one third and
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  Speaker 4: long play when they were in 10. You know, I just,
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  Speaker 4: I find 10 personnel in general to be pretty limiting.
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  Speaker 4: Like you can do the things that Justin said, but
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  Speaker 4: in the run game, you're basically limited to inside zone
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  Speaker 4: or even like sort of base blocking. You can only
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  Speaker 4: use five man protection schemes. You know, like Justin is the, the,
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  Speaker 4: the pass pro expert for sure relative to me, but like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you're pretty limited. So you're, it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be all what he just said, like your quick games,
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  Speaker 4: your RPOs third down, you're basically, you know, using, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just trying to get the football out. And so I
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  Speaker 4: think that there is like the, the, back to the
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  Speaker 4: previous question, like some of the short yardage issues have
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  Speaker 4: led to, I think even more focus on the, like,
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  Speaker 4: I do think it's correct that people are finally focused
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  Speaker 4: on the tight end blocking. Cause I do think the
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  Speaker 4: tight end block, you know, Ohio state has been pretty
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  Speaker 4: subpar overall with maybe the exception of Will Kazmarek for
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  Speaker 4: like the last five years. And I, you know, it
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  Speaker 4: always frustrated me that the offensive line took the blame
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  Speaker 4: when it was at times the tight ends and like
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  Speaker 4: the CD gap that Brian days talked about, but like, again,
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  Speaker 4: I do think, you know, like if you look at
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  Speaker 4: Buck Davis's numbers right now, they're like 65 plus percent,
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  Speaker 4: 11 personnel at the moment, like 20 to 25%, 12 personnel.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have too much of a problem with that.
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  Speaker 4: Um, I think the, like the 11 personnel, like, especially like,
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  Speaker 4: I do think they're going to lean more into it,
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  Speaker 4: like how they opened, um, against Kent state. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: cause as I agree with Justin, like Julian's at his
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  Speaker 4: best at the quick game, RPOs getting the football out. Um,
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  Speaker 4: I just think that if you, the 12 personnel does
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  Speaker 4: give you some options in terms of different protection schemes,
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  Speaker 4: counter and power, you know, I mean, yes, you can
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  Speaker 4: run counter from, you can't really run power from 11 personnel.
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  Speaker 4: You can run counter, but you're like sort of opening
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback up and like some heavy play action stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't think, you know, I do agree that
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  Speaker 4: they should use some 10 and limited circumstances, but you obviously,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you can make that your primary.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: And in my opinion, while you have Jeremiah, I think
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  Speaker 2: you utilize it. And I always say this on our
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  Speaker 2: group texts with Ross and Kyle and all those guys
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  Speaker 2: that the more you spread these guys out. So like,
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  Speaker 2: think of having your formation outside the hash outside the
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  Speaker 2: numbers and forcing defenses a to be a nickel and
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  Speaker 2: dime and to they have to play out there you
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  Speaker 2: have to adjust to a guy like jeremiah so if
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  Speaker 2: if you're having these wide formations just as tennessee does
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  Speaker 2: and you're able to get some of these guys out
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  Speaker 2: of the box i think that cleans the box up
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  Speaker 2: in the run game no that can't be your base
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  Speaker 2: of what you do but i think it could definitely
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  Speaker 2: be a good change up a curveball um and then
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  Speaker 2: in terms of protection when it comes to if you're
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  Speaker 2: in 10 personnel yeah a lot of it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a lot of five-man protection and that six defender
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  Speaker 2: is going to be on julian i'm In my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: I think he handles that fairly well. So if they're
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  Speaker 2: going to pressure Julian in that five-man pass, bro, I
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  Speaker 2: would trust him to be able to throw into the pressure.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's something that they should start to
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  Speaker 2: at least tinker with. And if you're getting something out
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  Speaker 2: of it, great. Continue using it because then you force
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  Speaker 2: defensive coordinators. I got to prepare for 10, 11, 12.
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  Speaker 2: And again, 10 doesn't have to be our base, but
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  Speaker 2: then you just add another element to the offense. If
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  Speaker 2: you add another element, you've got Jeremiah, you utilize him,
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  Speaker 2: put him out as far as possible. and force defenses
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  Speaker 2: to play nickel, force them to be out of the box.
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  Speaker 2: Because the box has gotten so muddy this year. Again,
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  Speaker 2: like we keep saying, they're mis-IDing in the run game.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're able to at least wind those guys out,
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  Speaker 2: that's how Tennessee hits their explosives. As they're so wide,
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  Speaker 2: there's four guys in the box. One guy misses a tackle,
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  Speaker 2: you're off to the races. So I think it's something
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  Speaker 2: they can tinker with a little bit, obviously not make
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  Speaker 2: their base. But I definitely think there is cause to
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 1: And it feels like if you spread people out like that,
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  Speaker 1: and Tennessee is always kind of the classic example where
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  Speaker 1: they would have receivers outside the numbers, which is crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but it feels like at that point you kind of
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  Speaker 1: have to commit. It makes it harder to disguise what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing as a defense where you can't have, you know, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to bluff pressure and then I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: drop into coverage. Like if the receiver's outside the numbers,
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  Speaker 1: like congratulations, you're not getting within 10 yards of that guy.
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  Speaker 1: So you kind of have to commit, which you know,
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  Speaker 1: there has been plenty of discourse this year as well
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  Speaker 1: about how Julian Sane is seeing the field and is
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  Speaker 1: he seeing everything that's out there? That would certainly, you
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  Speaker 1: would assume, help with that. But Ross, in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the discourse about Julian Sane right now, and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he missed Brandon Innes in the end zone. And so
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  Speaker 1: this is just another example of Julian Sane doesn't see
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  Speaker 1: the field. You know, what is your level of concern
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  Speaker 1: with Julian Sane? Is there a level of concern with
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  Speaker 1: Julian Sane? Or is that just kind of, That was
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  Speaker 1: a bad play, but it was, you know, that he
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  Speaker 1: didn't get his feet around, as Ryan Day said on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Or is, you know, is that like an undue concern
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  Speaker 1: from Ohio State fans?
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  Speaker 4: I think there are certainly plays that I can point
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  Speaker 4: to where, like, I would, you know, if you're Julian Sand,
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  Speaker 4: you would want them back this year, right? Like against Texas,
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  Speaker 4: the McEwen throw, the Bo Jackson screen pass.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he rushed it.
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  Speaker 4: Um, that, that play to Ennis, um, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: the throw to Jeremiah Smith in that game as well
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  Speaker 4: on fourth down a lot of that. And I, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I defer to Justin on some of this in terms
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  Speaker 4: of footwork, but like it, a lot of it is like,
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  Speaker 4: to me, his feet aren't set either. He feels sped
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  Speaker 4: up or he, um, is, you know, rushing things, uh,
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  Speaker 4: for whatever reason. Um, and you know, he doesn't get his,
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  Speaker 4: he's throwing off his back foot, his mechanics breakdown. So,
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  Speaker 4: I think Julian Sand, by contrast, as we just referred
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  Speaker 4: to earlier, he's so accurate on the RPO, the quick game,
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  Speaker 4: anything intermediate, that we take it for granted. I can't
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  Speaker 4: say that I break down other college football quarterbacks like
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  Speaker 4: I watch Julian Sand, but yes, guys can make plays
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  Speaker 4: out of structure that he cannot, but you just see
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  Speaker 4: so many guys miss throws in in structure, in rhythm
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  Speaker 4: that like people just take those like levels, you know, like,
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  Speaker 4: like Justin referred to, like that sales sale concept, like
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  Speaker 4: hitting that 15 yard out for granted. And like, that's,
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  Speaker 4: it's a hard throw and you see guys miss it
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  Speaker 4: all the time. So like no one's perfect. I remember
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  Speaker 4: watching CJ Stroud and we had some of these same
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  Speaker 4: discussions about Stroud. Cause he also couldn't make plays out
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  Speaker 4: of structure until maybe that Georgia game. And like he
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  Speaker 4: missed throws against cover two and whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I would still put Julian Sand right up
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  Speaker 4: there with any college quarterback. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Quarterbacks cannot be perfect. And I know Julian gets a
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  Speaker 2: lot of flack. But to me, his strength is, we've
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  Speaker 2: already talked about it, the quick game RPO. He's really
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  Speaker 2: good when they max protect. If they put six to
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  Speaker 2: seven guys in protection, his confidence level rises. And you
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  Speaker 2: can see it. When he's in more of the six-man
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  Speaker 2: pass pro three to five step where he's got to
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  Speaker 2: be able to sidestep, move in the pocket, he knows that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's when he crumbles. which is not a
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  Speaker 2: good look for NFL GMs right now. But I do
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  Speaker 2: think if he feels good in protection, he's one of
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  Speaker 2: the better quarterbacks in college football. When he doesn't feel
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  Speaker 2: as he's protected well enough, that's when the technique starts
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  Speaker 2: to dwindle. That's when his feet aren't tied to his eyes.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Because as Ross and Day have said, his eyes and
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: feet have not been really tied together when he feels
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: that pressure. So I think If they have a good
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: pressure plan, if he feels protected, I think, again, he's
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: one of the better quarterbacks in college football. But you've
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: got to be able to do that consistently with him.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: And if you watch quarterbacks in college football, it's hard.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: It's really hard to play quarterback nowadays. And to be
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: able to hit from hash to the sideline, that's really
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: hard to do. Julian can do it. So there's definitely–
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: you can build an offense with him. I think they've
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: just got to keep building it, and they'll be perfectly fine.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think one missed opportunity against Texas in the
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: second half was using more like seven man pass pro
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: because Texas, like I actually think like the O-line, like,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, there certainly were mistakes. I thought
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: they held up well enough, but Texas, you know, to
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: try to get back in that game was throwing every
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: kind of pressure package they had at them. And I
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: think that got in his head and the offensive lines
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: had a little bit. And I think they could have
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: like tried to slow things down for all of them
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: by just full slide seven man pass pro.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, a hundred percent. It, And that's what moving forward
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: is defenses are going to see that on film, like
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: how Texas prepared or how Texas attacked and then how
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: our own line fell apart. So if they can have
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: pressure plans moving forward and be able to be on
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: the same page, he'll feel more comfortable that way. But yeah,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: like when they used to take the shot, like think
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: of the shot last year versus Texas when they had
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: seven man pass pro and we hit the shot going
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: in the end zone. I think it was that too.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Carno.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Now a seven man pass pro, you could tell his
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: feet and eyes were tied and he was able to
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: launch it and he'd be able to use his body
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: into the throw. Those are the type of shot plays
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: that we're mentioning here. And I think you can build
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: off moving forward.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: But yeah.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to let you guys go on this
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: and just need an answer. One position group from each
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: of you guys could be the same position group. What
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: is the biggest question or the biggest potential limiting factor
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: on this year's Ohio State offense? Because it feels like
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: we've talked about, you know, Well, the quarterback could be
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: better here. The running backs, do they have an elite
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: running back this year? Do they have a wide receiver
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: other than Jeremiah Smith who's that good? The blocking at
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the tight end position, the offensive line and some of
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: the ID there. What's the biggest question mark to each
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: of you guys on the offense right now? And how
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: confident are you that that's something that can get fixed?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Or is it something that you just kind of shrug
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: your shoulders and go, well, they got to just sort
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: of work around that. So we'll let Ross go first here.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Um, I mean, I, I, I tight end is the
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: obvious answer to me. I think that they, you know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: I think that they outside of Jeremiah and Julian have
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: a lot of good players on offense. Like, you know,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that Bo Jackson is great, you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: or the running backs. I wouldn't, you know, I think
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: McHugh and it's like, aren't at the Cornell Tate level or,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: or Mecca Buka level, but I think you can win
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: with all those guys.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: And I would say the same thing about the offensive line.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I think if they, they all need to work together
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: and play cleaner tight ends, the one position where like, I,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, Nate Roberts is still young. I
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: think Mason Williams is doing okay. I just think they're
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: going to be at best sort of like replacement level there.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: And so I guess, and that gets back to our
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: conversation about personnel packages and you got to work around
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: it and you can't put your, you know, critical fourth
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: and two play on, you know, blocking duo and the
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: C and controlling the C and D gaps and leaving
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: them singled up because they, I don't, you're, they're not
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: going to win enough.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I was going to say tight ends,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: but feeding off of that, I noticed a lot in
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: the film when our running backs get into these one-on-one situations,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: either it's versus safety or a corner or a DB.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: We're not winning a lot of those one-on-ones. And I
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: know Dave mentioned that and it's press for this, this week,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: if they want their guys to win those one-on-ones when
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you can, that takes your offense to the next step.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: And that's what they need.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: If they can hit some of those explosives in the
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: run game, They can build play auction off of those
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: same concepts they're hitting explosives on because you're going to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: force defense to adjust. You can hit those explosives. They're
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: going to adjust to the run game. So I think
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: running backs would be my pick. I think they're doing
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: pretty good in pass pro, to be honest. I think
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: they're doing their job soundly. It's just now in the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: running game. Take that next step. Make a DB miss
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: a tackle because every run game concept is drawn for
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: you to get one-on-one with the safety and or a DB.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: And we're getting that at times, and we're just not
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: winning at the running back position. So I think if
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: we can start to move past some of those, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: think the offense can really open up. All right, there
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: you go.
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