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Full Show Podcast: 25 February 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: Earli Ereditia with one Root Love where you Live News Talks.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be good morning. It is six after five. Great
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  Speaker 2: to have your company on this Wednesday. Why the health
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  Speaker 2: data hacks will just keep on the coming? Gavin Gray
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  Speaker 2: in the UK for us this morning. There's a booze
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  Speaker 2: problem for Takaha Stadium or one in zed Stadium in
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  Speaker 2: christ Church. And we have an update on melanoma drugs
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  Speaker 2: for you this morning, which is good news from Farmak
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  Speaker 2: the agenda hopefully good news from Farmac. Wednesday, the twenty
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  Speaker 2: fifth of February, the rest of the world's marking the
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  Speaker 2: fourth anniversary of the Russia Ukraine War. Heir Zelenski, Today.
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  Speaker 3: We speak about stopping this war. I believe the stopping
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  Speaker 3: put In today and preventing him from occupying Ukraine is
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  Speaker 3: a victory for the whole world because Putting will not
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  Speaker 3: stop at Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: And what does Rutter got to say?
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  Speaker 4: The NATO Rowen needs ammunition today and every day until
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  Speaker 4: the bloodshat stops continues to blunt Russia's aggression. And despite
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  Speaker 4: put In spostering, Russia has failed to meet their ambitions
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  Speaker 4: on the battlefield.
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  Speaker 2: We're certainly giving money Winston Peters's eight million new assistants
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  Speaker 2: plus sanctions for Russia. On the fourth anniversary, Savannah Guthrie,
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  Speaker 2: the US news anchor, offering now one million US dollar
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  Speaker 2: reward to find her mum.
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  Speaker 5: Someone out there knows something that can bring her home.
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  Speaker 6: Somebody knows and we are begging you to please come forward.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: It's day twenty four now and reports you know the
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  Speaker 2: doorbell footage of the masked guy that was at the
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  Speaker 2: front door of Nancy's home. Apparently that was on two
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  Speaker 2: separate days, so the person probably was watching the property
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  Speaker 2: before the suspected abduction took place. Finally, this morning, one
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  Speaker 2: of Disney channe most famous dads, Robert Carradine, is dying
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  Speaker 2: at the age of seventy one, who is best known
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  Speaker 2: for working alongside Hillary Duff as Lizzie McGuire's dad in
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  Speaker 2: the Hits two thousands series. The actor, who lived with
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  Speaker 2: bipolar disorder for nearly two decades, took his own.
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  Speaker 1: Life on your Radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition
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  Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and One roof Love, where You Live
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  Speaker 1: News Talks.
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  Speaker 2: The'd Be nine two ninety two is the number to text.
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  Speaker 2: Would love to hear from you this morning. Labor has
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  Speaker 2: got ninety nine problems, and debt is definitely going to
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  Speaker 2: be one of them. If you've been listening to Hipkins lately,
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  Speaker 2: you've got thirteen billion at least, maybe a little more,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a little I would say north of thirteen billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars for the pay equity deals with the unions. He's
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  Speaker 2: got it pay for that somehow. Doesn't know how the
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  Speaker 2: twenty billion dollars roughly for your Harbor crossing? How's he
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  Speaker 2: going to pay for that? He told us yesterday he's
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  Speaker 2: going to keep the old bridge free. So who will
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  Speaker 2: use the told one? How do you pay for the
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  Speaker 2: new crossing without people using the told one? It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: make any sense anyway. Doesn't really know how that's going
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  Speaker 2: to work either. Hundreds of millions of dollars potentially is
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  Speaker 2: the shortfall from his capital gains tax to pay for
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  Speaker 2: your doctor's visits. Remember your billionaires are going to get
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  Speaker 2: three free visits. Now, what happens if your house prices
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  Speaker 2: stay stable as they are meant to, you may not
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  Speaker 2: get the capital gains you want. There's a shortfall. Ladies
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  Speaker 2: and gentlemen, we have a maths problem, don't we The
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  Speaker 2: real problem really is that none of it seems to
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  Speaker 2: have been thought about yet. He keeps saying so. Whenever
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  Speaker 2: you asked him, he says that we haven't got that
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  Speaker 2: far yet. Well, come on, that should concern us. Remember
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  Speaker 2: Grant Robertson once said in the Wise Woods alongside James Shaw,
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  Speaker 2: by the way from the Greens, that thirty percent debt
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  Speaker 2: to GDP should be your max, that should be your cap.
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  Speaker 2: That would be sensible. Well, Hipkins doesn't know about that yet.
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  Speaker 2: Green's happy to go north of fifty percent. Look, national's
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  Speaker 2: not great because we are still north of forty. But
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  Speaker 2: at least they want to get it down. But if
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  Speaker 2: you're a landlord this morning, look how I reckon they're
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  Speaker 2: coming for you again. I asked them about this. You
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  Speaker 2: know the interest deductibility. If you're a landlord, you will
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  Speaker 2: know about it. I asked them about it yesterday. Landlords,
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  Speaker 2: they should they expect that they will have to help
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  Speaker 2: fund some of this. Will you take away the interest
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  Speaker 2: deductibility as the previous government did that you were part of.
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  Speaker 7: I've been listening to feedback from landlords about that and
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  Speaker 7: removing one hundred percent of interest deductibility was I think
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  Speaker 7: something that we're unlikely to do in that same way again.
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  Speaker 7: But we will set that out again when we set
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  Speaker 7: out our fiscool plan.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, So look out. I mean that's as much of
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  Speaker 2: a warning as you're going to get. I think there
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  Speaker 2: are about one hundred and ninety thousand private landlords in
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand. Most just owned one or two homes, so
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  Speaker 2: mum and dad, investors, nest egg for retirement, all that
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  Speaker 2: sort of stuff, and removing the interest deductibility put them
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  Speaker 2: into serious stress. You remember this because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: them were basically not covering themselves, couldn't make it work.
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  Speaker 2: Voted for Actor National on that basis. Plus, when they
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  Speaker 2: remove the interest deductibility, rents were going up. Since it's
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  Speaker 2: been reinstated, rents are going down. So this is not
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  Speaker 2: about making rents cheaper. Let's just be real about that.
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  Speaker 2: It is not about making rents cheaper. We have proof
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  Speaker 2: that it doesn't. It's about revenue to paper over some
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  Speaker 2: cracks in their budget with a handy scapegoat that they
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  Speaker 2: think the public hates. Bryan Bridge nine two ninety two
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  Speaker 2: is the number to text. Five to eleven is the
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  Speaker 2: time we'll talk kafarmac and this melanoma funding. Next Newstalk stb.
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  Speaker 1: Views and Views you Trust to start your day. It's
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Bryan Bridge and one roofe Love Where
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  Speaker 1: You Live.
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  Speaker 2: News Talks B five thirteen. Good morning, Ryan, says Paul.
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  Speaker 2: This is not necessarily a labor issue. This math problem
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  Speaker 2: that you're talking about, it's just a government issue. Nicola
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  Speaker 2: Willis seems to have the same one equating one plus
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  Speaker 2: one equals three. It's a problem whenever any party gets
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  Speaker 2: into power. I suppose you have a point there. It's
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  Speaker 2: just degrees of you know, one is maybe a little
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  Speaker 2: worse than the other, and that's it's the lesser of
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  Speaker 2: two evils, maybe, isn't it. Hey very quickly on that
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  Speaker 2: price of oil, we were talking about this yesterday, so
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  Speaker 2: they now reached to seven month high. This is over
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  Speaker 2: fares of US and Iran conflict. You basically, traders are
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  Speaker 2: pricing in the risk of a disruption. They don't really
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  Speaker 2: know what that might be yet, because we still haven't
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  Speaker 2: even got to the point where anyone's firing any missiles.
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  Speaker 2: US crude futures up to sixty seven twenty eight a
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  Speaker 2: barrel Brent crude highest level since July at seventy two
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  Speaker 2: fifty overnight that has just fallen back in the last
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  Speaker 2: few minutes to seventy and fifty US cents and bread
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  Speaker 2: Rich Farmac's looking at funding two new melanoma drugs though
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  Speaker 2: benefit patients with late stage melanoma, saving the health system
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  Speaker 2: around one thousand infusion hours a year. They are out
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  Speaker 2: for consultation. Doctor Gareth Rivland is with usta coloncologist and
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  Speaker 2: melanoma specialist. Good morning, very much, good to have you here.
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  Speaker 2: What did these drugs do.
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  Speaker 8: So over the last fifteen years or so, Not that
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  Speaker 8: we don't want to take you back too far, but
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  Speaker 8: there's been a real change in the way we treat melanomas.
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  Speaker 8: So we don't use traditional chemotherapies. What we use are
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  Speaker 8: these immunotherapy drugs where we try to get the patient's
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  Speaker 8: own immune system to recognize the cancer cells and attack them.
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  Speaker 8: And so these two drugs are in that group, and
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  Speaker 8: one of them effectively unmasked the cancer to allow the
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  Speaker 8: immune system to see it, and the other drug effectively
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  Speaker 8: cuts the excem immune system if you like, to allow
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  Speaker 8: it to run a lot harder, faster. Earlier in treatment.
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  Speaker 8: And so these two medications have been around for a while,
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  Speaker 8: but the real change for us now we can use
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  Speaker 8: them before someone has surgery to allow the immune system
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  Speaker 8: to see these cancer cells really early to kill them
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  Speaker 8: off even before the surgeons get there.
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  Speaker 2: And they must be used. Therefore, they must be used together.
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  Speaker 2: You need to fund them both.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, this is where the state of the art is.
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  Speaker 8: Really this is the best combination. So this is what
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  Speaker 8: we'd say as the global gold standard treatment. So when
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  Speaker 8: you use this combination, you can do two treatment cycles
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  Speaker 8: before surgery, so that's six weeks of treatment and about
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  Speaker 8: sixty percent of people will have the cancer completely killed.
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  Speaker 9: Off before before surgery.
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  Speaker 8: So this is quite a change and it really is
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  Speaker 8: better than any other combination or any other single drug
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  Speaker 8: that has been tested around the world.
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  Speaker 2: Do they still need surgery?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, well that's where we're going next, you know, that's
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  Speaker 8: where the trials are heading at the moment. We need
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  Speaker 8: the surgery to be able to tell how well the
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  Speaker 8: treatments work. So, as I said, sixty percent of people
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  Speaker 8: in these trials look like that have what we call
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  Speaker 8: a complete pathologic response. That means that when the pathologists
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  Speaker 8: look at the slides, there's no cancer cells left, but
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  Speaker 8: it does leave forty percent who don't get that sort
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  Speaker 8: of response, and we need that understanding of what's happened
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  Speaker 8: on the microscopic level to decide what sort of treatment
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  Speaker 8: they might need after surgery.
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  Speaker 2: I had a look at this this morning. It looked
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  Speaker 2: to me like these are being funded in Australia since
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  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. Is that? I mean, it sounds like revolutionary here,
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  Speaker 2: but is that true?
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  Speaker 8: Well, the original trials where we were looking at doing
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  Speaker 8: treatment around surgery was in twenty eighteen. The treatment prior
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  Speaker 8: to surgery, where effectively you leave the tumor in place
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  Speaker 8: to know what you're is allowing the immune system to
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  Speaker 8: see these cancer cells really early. That's a later development.
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  Speaker 8: They probably had that treatment in Australia only over the
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  Speaker 8: last two or three years. And this combination, as I say,
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  Speaker 8: which is the state of the art and was funded
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  Speaker 8: in August last year in Australia, and in fact it
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  Speaker 8: isn't funded in the UK or Canada. I think are
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  Speaker 8: in the process of rolling it out, but it's not
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  Speaker 8: quite there. Actually, we're a little ahead of the curve
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  Speaker 8: on this one, which is unusual for farmac.
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  Speaker 2: First first time I've ever heard any doctor tell me that, Gareth,
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate your time this morning, doctor Gareth Rivilland who's
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  Speaker 2: a medical oncologist and melanoma's specialist. Hopefully they get that funded.
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  Speaker 2: As I say, consultation out ends in March five eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: You're on News Talk ZB next will go to Takaha Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: That's one in Zed Stadium in christ Church and their
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  Speaker 2: booth problem for opening night.
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  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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  Speaker 1: analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Room Love
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  Speaker 1: where You Live.
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  Speaker 2: News Talks at B twenty after five, News Talks B
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  Speaker 2: tray over in the UK Trade Minister Chris Brian and
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  Speaker 2: the House of Commons having a crack at Andrew. This
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  Speaker 2: is former Prince Andrew. Have a listen.
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  Speaker 5: Colleagues and many civil servants have told me their own
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  Speaker 5: stories of their interactions with mister mount Batten Windsor, and they.
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  Speaker 2: All betray the same pattern.
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  Speaker 5: A man on a constant self aggrandizing and self enriching hustle,
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  Speaker 5: A rude, arrogant and entitled man who could not distinguish
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  Speaker 5: between the public interest which he said he served at
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  Speaker 5: his own private interest.
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  Speaker 2: And he didn't stop there. The rest for you later.
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  Speaker 2: Plus Kevin Gray out of the UK at quarter two
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  Speaker 2: Bryan Bred another liquor licensing rule. Would we call it dumb?
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  Speaker 2: Causing upset anyway? In christ Church for bar owners, the
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  Speaker 2: brand new Takahau Stadium will host its first major sports match,
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  Speaker 2: the Super Rugby Round weekend of April twenty four. Problem
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  Speaker 2: the next day's ANZAC Day, so no alcohol allowed to
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  Speaker 2: be served past midnight. Jeremy Stevens, Hospitality in z Candiby
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  Speaker 2: branch president joins me this morning, morning, Jeremy, good morning,
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  Speaker 2: how are you doing good? Thank you? So this is
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  Speaker 2: not great for bar owners? Is it? Because midnight stroke
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  Speaker 2: of midnight everyone has to go home?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, it's very unfortunate. Obviously opening up this stadium is
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  Speaker 6: a massive event for Zen, for us Yhich. It's been
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  Speaker 6: fourteen years in the waiting. It's a massive investment from
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  Speaker 6: the govern Council and taxpayers and having a Super Rugby
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  Speaker 6: round in christ which is amazing. We'd have more people
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  Speaker 6: here than we've seen in a very long time. And
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  Speaker 6: as you just mentioned, yeah, there for the night at
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  Speaker 6: the stadium, all the bars have to shit at midnight
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  Speaker 6: because Ansak Day falls on Saturday this year.
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  Speaker 2: Do you I mean the distrest Licensing Committee. I've had
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  Speaker 2: a look at that. Their hands are tired here, aren't they.
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  Speaker 2: You basically need a law change from Parliament.
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  Speaker 6: There are This is something we've been working on behind
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  Speaker 6: the scenes for a few months now with council counselors
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  Speaker 6: and the mayor who are all in support of trying
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  Speaker 6: to make this work so then you can trade as usual.
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  Speaker 6: The issue we have it keeps falling back on, is
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  Speaker 6: it it is legislation. The hands are tied. We have
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  Speaker 6: tried to look at could we do a blanket city
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  Speaker 6: wide blanket special license to get across the line. That
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  Speaker 6: appears that's not an option under the current law.
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  Speaker 2: So your best hope is Karen Mcinolti's bill, isn't it
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  Speaker 2: because these two members that hit this is his private
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  Speaker 2: members bill two members days before then that hopefully it
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  Speaker 2: could pass and but I mean fingers.
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  Speaker 6: Crossed, it's yeah, I think that's very unlucky. It'll passing time.
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  Speaker 6: But having that bill in place and getting to this
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  Speaker 6: stage does prove that this this law is probably not
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  Speaker 6: suitable for purpose anymore. It is quite chaic. It affects
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  Speaker 6: us not Andy, not so much. But the biggest, biggest
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  Speaker 6: effect is Easter having that Friday and Sunday, but bars
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  Speaker 6: have to close at midnight on Thursday. You can't trade
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  Speaker 6: Friday unless it's for the purpose of dining. Same on Sunday.
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  Speaker 6: See bars have to shut up midnight on Saturday and
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  Speaker 6: the public holiday and Monday means it's a very expensive
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  Speaker 6: weekend to run hospitality time and a half every two
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  Speaker 6: days and we are staff that are eager to work
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  Speaker 6: those days, not forcing them to, but it's a massive
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  Speaker 6: effect on our trade and mass effect on tourism.
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  Speaker 2: Plus you got the lunch you're got to feed every
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  Speaker 2: one to HIV and your appreciate your time this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy Stephens Hospitality in Zed Canterbury Bryan Bridge by twenty
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  Speaker 2: four are genuinely interested in how people feel about that,
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  Speaker 2: because the ANZACs and the trenches probably weren't worrying about
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  Speaker 2: a drink where they Do you think that we should
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  Speaker 2: change the rules? Are you on board with Karen mcinnolty's bill.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably going to pass by the sounds of it,
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  Speaker 2: although not in time for the opening weekend in April
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, after five News Talk SEB will have more
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  Speaker 2: on that data breach for your health centers next.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition for all the show podcast on iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: how It by News Talks V.
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  Speaker 2: Five twenty six News Talk said b this government has
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  Speaker 2: made fast track a bit of a buzzword, and after
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  Speaker 2: we get another massive hack of private information on Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: it needs to put that buzzword into action, sharpen up
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  Speaker 2: our privacy laws like yesterday, especially if we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: your health information getting stolen then potentially posted online by
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  Speaker 2: hackers for a ransom. The hackers, it seems to me,
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  Speaker 2: are pretty much a mystery and never going to be caught.
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  Speaker 2: That ship has sailed and we can, at least for
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  Speaker 2: now put that in the too hard basket. But the
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  Speaker 2: folks we can find, which we currently don't, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: are the businesses asking for our information and not doing
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  Speaker 2: enough to protect it in the first place. If ever,
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  Speaker 2: there was a need for better regulation and harsher penalties,
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  Speaker 2: it's with cases like this what should be your private data?
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  Speaker 2: In New Zealand, Consumer says there is no express penalty
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  Speaker 2: or fine for a breach. No fine. The Privacy Commissioner
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  Speaker 2: has the powder issue a fine of wait for it,
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  Speaker 2: ten grand, yeah, ten thousand dollars. And that's only if
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  Speaker 2: a company doesn't report a breach or tries to hide
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  Speaker 2: it the Aussies, they'll whack you with a fine of
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  Speaker 2: up to fifty million Australian dollars. That makes ours look
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  Speaker 2: like a bit of a slap with a wet bus ticket,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it. Companies should be scared to ask for your
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  Speaker 2: private information because the risk of it being necked is
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  Speaker 2: evidently quite high, isn't it. This is not a funny thing,
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  Speaker 2: it's outrageous. In two months, we've had the largest ever
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  Speaker 2: hack in our history through Manage my Health, and now
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  Speaker 2: this many map. One last week, I went shopping it
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  Speaker 2: Books myself some new clothes because I've basically worn through them.
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  Speaker 2: So went out to buy just a couple of T
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  Speaker 2: shirts and shorts, and I was asked for my name
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  Speaker 2: and email address and my postal address, not that I
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  Speaker 2: was sending the clothes to myself. I walked out the
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  Speaker 2: shop with them in a bag. Why because they want
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  Speaker 2: you on a mailing list. Probably I didn't have to
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  Speaker 2: provide this data, but if I did, I would get
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  Speaker 2: ten percent off the clothes I paid the full price,
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  Speaker 2: but I couldn't leave with a receipt unless I hand
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  Speaker 2: it over my email. Now that annoys me, and they
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  Speaker 2: should be scared to ask for it. Businesses want our
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  Speaker 2: information because they can sell us more stuff for share
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  Speaker 2: it with a third party, whatever, But it should be
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  Speaker 2: either illegal to ask for it. It should actually be
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  Speaker 2: illegal to ask for it unless the law requires it.
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  Speaker 2: And if the data they do have get stolen, that
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  Speaker 2: should be their problem under the law. The fines ought
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  Speaker 2: to reflect how serious the breach is. With health well
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  Speaker 2: that ought to be millions. Surely they should be scared,
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  Speaker 2: like with health and safety laws, to even ask for it.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like this problem has suddenly sailed into port.
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  Speaker 2: That's why the legislation should be fast tracked. It should
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  Speaker 2: be bipartisan and it should be tough as nails. Otherwise
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  Speaker 2: we can all look forward to another data breach coming
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  Speaker 2: to a town near you soon. News Talk said B
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  Speaker 2: We're live to the UK next.
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  Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early
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  Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and one Route Love where you live?
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  Speaker 1: News Talk said B twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Four away from sixties Topsy'd be coming up well Hester
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  Speaker 2: Gavin Graham the UK in a few minutes time. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about your health data break. Another day, another health
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  Speaker 2: data breach as well. Ryan, good morning. This is on
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  Speaker 2: the issue to Kaha Stadium and the booze over Anzac weekend. Ryan,
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  Speaker 2: why don't they just open the place on a different night,
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  Speaker 2: away from Anzac Day. That would make more sense than
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  Speaker 2: changing the alcohol laws. Kirsten says, sorry, but the alcohol
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  Speaker 2: rules affect very few days a year, so I can't
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  Speaker 2: see the issue. Why is it so hard for us
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  Speaker 2: to remember and pay respect to the Anzac memory? Another
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  Speaker 2: here said from Nick morning Neck. The Anzac's fought for freedom.
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  Speaker 2: The banning of drinking past midnight is not freedom. Very good, Nick,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for that. Hey, very quickly. Trump's going to
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  Speaker 2: give a State of the Union address today. It'll happened
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  Speaker 2: later today our time. A CNN poll out this morning
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  Speaker 2: not great for him. Approval with independence and you need
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  Speaker 2: the independence to win at a new low twenty six percent.
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  Speaker 2: Only thirty two percent of the public generally think he
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  Speaker 2: has his priorities in the right order, sixty one percent
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  Speaker 2: moving the country in the wrong direction. So this speech
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  Speaker 2: has a lot hanging on it. Brian Bred our reporters,
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  Speaker 2: We start with Claire and christ Church clear, good morning,
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  Speaker 2: good morning. You've got fraud at this rugby club and
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  Speaker 2: the person who was allegedly responsible for it fleeing overseas.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Nikola Flint's become a name very well known around christ
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  Speaker 10: Church circles for some time now. She allegedly defrauded the
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  Speaker 10: christ Church Football Club by more than one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 10: dollars with false invoices and the likes. Then there was
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  Speaker 10: this terrible situation where it was emerged that she had
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  Speaker 10: faked a terminal cancer diagnosis. She had used medical documents
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  Speaker 10: that she appeared to have docted herself on word using
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: Google searches for logos and the like. She is accused
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  Speaker 10: of tricking A and Z her employer into paying more
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  Speaker 10: than eighty thousand dollars for her medical retirement. Forty nine
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  Speaker 10: year old was under investigation here in christ Church by police,
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  Speaker 10: but she fled to the UK before the charges were
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  Speaker 10: laid and was a no show in court here. She
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  Speaker 10: has just yesterday been arrested living in Wales. Flint's friend
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  Speaker 10: Joe Scott has told The Heralds a Moment in Crime
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  Speaker 10: podcast that she thinks police should have sort of investigated
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  Speaker 10: the emotional manipulation much earlier. She says the only reason
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  Speaker 10: she can see that someone would fake something like cancer
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  Speaker 10: would be to manipulate others, and that should be a crime.
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  Speaker 10: Scott believes that Flint did have some sort of health scare,
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  Speaker 10: but it's likely that the lying began after that. There
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  Speaker 10: are still some questions around whether Flint will be returned
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  Speaker 10: to christ Church to face the charges that have been
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  Speaker 10: laid against her.
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  Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather?
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: Claire should be fine today. Gusty northeasterlies and twenty one degrees.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. We're apologies. We can't seem to raise Dunedin
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  Speaker 2: at the moment. We'll go to Max toll and Wellington. Max.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, morning Andrew little were we raising him?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 11: Okay, so Leaver's Aschevell. She the Labor Parties Wellington Issues spokesperson.
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  Speaker 11: She quite rightly called out Wellington Water here in the
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  Speaker 11: studio for not answering questions about more point, for refusing
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  Speaker 11: to respond to media queries, for only posting updates on
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  Speaker 11: its own terms, updates that don't really answer actually anything
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  Speaker 11: at all. And so we do understand that decision was
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  Speaker 11: actually meyor Andrew Little's call clearly fancying himself as something
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  Speaker 11: of a disaster or crisis response manager. I can tell
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  Speaker 11: you as soon as more point happened and ad went
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  Speaker 11: up advertising for a crisis strategic communications manager to work
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  Speaker 11: with Wellington Water or something of that. Ilk veryl says
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  Speaker 11: most Wellingtonians feel like we don't have enough information, We're
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  Speaker 11: not getting the answers we want. But this is what
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  Speaker 11: tends to happen, isn't it, And working in communications becomes
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  Speaker 11: something of an oxymoron. Andrew Little doesn't think Veryl's comments
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  Speaker 11: are there and says stuff is getting out there and
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  Speaker 11: no crisis response is perfect. This review is going to
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  Speaker 11: take months. We're not getting answers to our questions and
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  Speaker 11: in the meantime it's we, the Wellingtonians who suffer.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely And the answer is about as clear as your
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  Speaker 2: water max. How exactly your weather today?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, well it's fine today with northerleast twenty two the Hey,
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  Speaker 11: all right, have a good.
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  Speaker 2: Day, good morning, never good morning. What's this about students
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  Speaker 2: and discounts?
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  Speaker 12: Yes, now, look there's the student groups asking for increased
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  Speaker 12: discounts to public transport. Now this is months after the
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  Speaker 12: tertiary discount was doubled. So this was doubled from twenty
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  Speaker 12: to forty percent late last year. So the Auckland University
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  Speaker 12: Students Association now they made a presentation to Auckland Council
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  Speaker 12: about its ideas around public transport. Now the president that's
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  Speaker 12: namesh Milan Sing. He says that the cost of public
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  Speaker 12: transport's making it very difficult for many of them to
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  Speaker 12: get to classes. So he's ultimately wanting it to be free.
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  Speaker 12: Of course they want it to be free, but would
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  Speaker 12: advocate for a fifty cent ride model like they do
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  Speaker 12: in Queensland. So when he put this forward to the council,
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  Speaker 12: apparently they proposed alternative funding ideas, even discussed the idea
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  Speaker 12: of central government footing part of the bill to ensure
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  Speaker 12: that the policy stays.
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  Speaker 2: Oh fantastic, So.
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  Speaker 12: Let's see what happens there. At least they had some ideas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean are they ideas or they just
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  Speaker 2: ask putting their handout and asking for free things. How's
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  Speaker 2: that weather? Fine?
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  Speaker 12: Apart from some afternoon cloud twenty six twenty six is
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  Speaker 12: the high today here in Auckland.
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  Speaker 2: Back up and the hate thanks Neva. It is nineteen
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  Speaker 2: total kitty, the total amount of levies that the Trump
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  Speaker 2: administration has taken as one hundred and seventy five billion
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  Speaker 2: US dollars. So FedEx wants a cut, they want a
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  Speaker 2: full refund, thank you very much for all the illegal
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  Speaker 2: tariffs that were collected thus far. Because taxes and tariffs
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  Speaker 2: Let's go back to the Trade Minister in the UK,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Chris Bryant having a real crack at the former Prince Andrew.
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  Speaker 5: I remember him coming to visit the secredets in Tona Pandi.
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  Speaker 5: They were absolutely delighted and excited to meet a member
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  Speaker 5: of the royal family. But he insisted on coming by
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  Speaker 5: helicopter Uni like his mother who came twice to the
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  Speaker 5: Ronda and always came by car. He left early and
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  Speaker 5: he showed next to note interest in the young people.
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  Speaker 5: That is, of course, mister speaker, not a crime, nor
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  Speaker 5: is arrogance. Fortunately.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose let's go to Gavin Gray at UK Chorus
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  Speaker 2: Bond and Kevin, good morning.
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  Speaker 13: Hi there, Ryan, yep. It's certainly been one of those days.
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  Speaker 13: Andrew Man Batan Windsor described as rude, arrogant and entitled
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  Speaker 13: in the Commons, and in the last half hour MPs
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  Speaker 13: have now back to motion calling for the release of
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  Speaker 13: all the documents on how Andrew Maunt Batman Winsor was
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  Speaker 13: appointed as a UK Trade Envoy, of course when he
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: was Prince Andrew. And this is particularly interesting because it's
• 26:26
  Speaker 13: been reported that there are documents which say that Lord
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  Speaker 13: Peter Mandelson, who used to be the UK Ambassador to
• 26:33
  Speaker 13: America until the Epstein files got him sacked, there are
• 26:37
  Speaker 13: suggestions that he another friend of Epstein, also was weighing
• 26:43
  Speaker 13: in saying, oh no, Andrew's a really good trade envoy.
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  Speaker 13: You need to keep him when questions were being asked
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  Speaker 13: about how useful he was as a trade end boy.
• 26:51
  Speaker 13: So two friends of Epstein, Prince Andrews he was and
• 26:55
  Speaker 13: now Lord Manilson, both arrested, both accused of misconduct and
• 27:00
  Speaker 13: public office, and both now arrested but released, and they
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: are effectively now awaiting further investigations about what's going on.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So Mandelssohn potentially backing up Andrew in the face of
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: a becklash. What about those charges you mentioned that both
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: being arrested obviously, But have we had any any update
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: on charges.
• 27:22
  Speaker 13: No, not at the moment. And indeed the police are
• 27:24
  Speaker 13: still searching Andrew Mountbatten's Windsor's former home in Windsor. It
• 27:29
  Speaker 13: is such a large place and that's like day four,
• 27:33
  Speaker 13: day five of that investigation. But the arrest of Lord
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  Speaker 13: Peter Mandelsson yesterday, a man twice who had to resign
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  Speaker 13: from cabinet over different scandals, the man who propelled an
• 27:44
  Speaker 13: unknown Tony Blair not just to the leader of the
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: Labor Party but to the Prime Minister. Lord Mandelson has
• 27:51
  Speaker 13: once again found himself in the news. He went back
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: home at two am after police released him from that arrest.
• 27:57
  Speaker 13: But yeah, both men Andrew and Lord Peter Mandelson still
• 28:02
  Speaker 13: under investigation for this misconduct in public office, which basically
• 28:06
  Speaker 13: means that they are alleged to have given information that
• 28:09
  Speaker 13: was private and confidential from the government to Jeffrey Epstein.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Kevin gray are UK Europe corresponding eleven away from six
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  Speaker 2: ra Bridge nurses at aged care facilities going back to
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  Speaker 2: the old school, paper based prescriptions for medicines after this
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: latest data breach. MADI map is used by sixty percent
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of care facilities that was hacked. Patients details would change
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: some from a life to dead for goodness sakes, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: this is only just after the Manage My Health ransom hack.
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  Speaker 2: Rob Campbell, former health ENZ share with me this morning, Rob,
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 9: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Right, A general question for you do you trust after
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  Speaker 2: all of these hacks? Do you trust the data with
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  Speaker 2: the health agencies?
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  Speaker 9: Not completely, But that's more I think caution and wisdom
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  Speaker 9: than just risky behavior. People don't have a lot of
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  Speaker 9: choice about this, and you know there are lots of
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  Speaker 9: points of vulnerability in the data systems in the health sector,
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  Speaker 9: but no, I don't think there's a cause to immediately
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  Speaker 9: distrust all the data.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a difference between the private operators who seem
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  Speaker 2: to be getting hacked and the public. When you helped
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand, did they have more robust systems?
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  Speaker 9: Some were, some weren't. There were issues. It's like a
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  Speaker 9: lot of things in our society. This has been known
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  Speaker 9: about for some time. The vulnerabilities are not new. The
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: warnings have been issued. Some people have responded to the warnings,
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  Speaker 9: some people haven't. Some have responded adequately, some haven't. We're
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: finding some points of vulnerability now in the health system
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  Speaker 9: that are very concerning, but should indeed have been addressed
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  Speaker 9: much earlier, because, as I say, the knowledge that we
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: had vulnerabilities is not new.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you think they haven't been fixed?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I think it's like again a lot of other
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: vulnerabilities in our society. It's expensive, it can be complex.
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  Speaker 9: It's not headline grabbing stuff. So it's the sort of
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  Speaker 9: thing that people do put off. And there is no
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  Speaker 9: absolute data security assurance that you can give, so it's
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: a matter of constant vigilance. It's a matter of cost,
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  Speaker 9: and you know, people do make tradeoffs in these things,
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: particularly systems and operators that are under pressure do make tradeoffs,
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: and sometimes those tradeoffs payoffs. Sometimes they don't, and we're
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: finding too many, certainly in the health system that don't.
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: So there are vulnerabilities at the point of the individual user,
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: the individual company or business that they're using in, but
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: across the health sector as a whole. I think there
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: are issues about governance from both the Ministry of Health
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  Speaker 9: and Health New Zealand as to what level of attention
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  Speaker 9: is required of people who are spending public funds or
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: providing public services, even if they may be private operators.
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  Speaker 2: Rob appreciate that. Thank you. Rob Campbell, former health Ended
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  Speaker 2: Shared Time is nine away from six Bryans Health inded
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  Speaker 2: by the way basically washing their hands of saying it's
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  Speaker 2: a private company and it's their responsibility to fix. If
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: you weren't listening earlier. The fine in New Zealand for
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: a private company having a breach like this is maximum
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  Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars and that's not even forgetting the data stolen.
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  Speaker 2: That's if they don't tell us about it or try
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  Speaker 2: and cover it up. News Talk said b.
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  Speaker 2: It's the six News Talk, said b Mike in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. Great to see you Ryan and to
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  Speaker 2: see you great. Yeah, what's in your show today?
• 31:36
  Speaker 14: Well, I'm going to do the medi map thing.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Ah, you and I don't know how because I don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: mean to sound bored.
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  Speaker 14: No, I'm looking on board with I say, Look, I
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  Speaker 14: don't have anything in my medical past that I'd be
• 31:47
  Speaker 14: bothered about it because I was involved in the manage
• 31:50
  Speaker 14: my health thing. Well you got you know, I wasn't
• 31:53
  Speaker 14: as apparently I managed my I was with managed my
• 31:55
  Speaker 14: health and they had to write to me to tell
• 31:57
  Speaker 14: me I wasn't one of the unlucky people. But at
• 31:59
  Speaker 14: the time, I thought, do I care if I am?
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  Speaker 14: And I came to the conclusion I didn't. You know, really,
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  Speaker 14: I couldn't kill less? Yeah, grubby details. You know, it's
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  Speaker 14: one of those ethereal things. Where's it actually going?
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  Speaker 2: Well? The dark were did a dark web? Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: someone like you make you don't want people knowing where
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  Speaker 2: you've had a rational I don't mean I don't I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't care less.
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  Speaker 14: Really, No, it doesn't, it doesn't. I mean if I
• 32:21
  Speaker 14: had something I don't know, I suppose embarrassing in my past.
• 32:25
  Speaker 14: I guess, you know, I can understand some people, you know,
• 32:28
  Speaker 14: medtal health issues.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I guess for some people would be in a genuine issue.
• 32:31
  Speaker 14: But I came to the conclusion that, you know, if
• 32:33
  Speaker 14: it all got blown out, I couldn't care less.
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  Speaker 2: There was a woman's funny you say, mental health of
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: woman in Finland and there, you know, the electronic record
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: keeping for the shrinks got hacked. She had been abused,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: she'd had the alcohol problem, stuff, she hadn't told her family.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: All that got put on the.
• 32:49
  Speaker 14: Into those scenarios, of course, But the point being, now,
• 32:53
  Speaker 14: are we at a point where you know, because of
• 32:55
  Speaker 14: course they've gone back to bits of paper, you know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 14: and so how oh the irony and whether you've got
• 33:02
  Speaker 14: some sort of activism here, and because you've got it's
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: not really ransom this time around. It's Charlie Kirk and politicians'
• 33:08
  Speaker 14: names and all that sort of stuff. Anyway, we'll talk
• 33:10
  Speaker 14: about that. Mitch Barnette, you upset about that. No, Mitch
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: Barnett is the I can tell you don't know what
• 33:15
  Speaker 14: I'm talking about. Mitch Barnett is the co captain of
• 33:17
  Speaker 14: the Warriors and the Warriors a rugby Warriors are a rugby
• 33:22
  Speaker 14: league team. I'm glad you figured out when I don't
• 33:27
  Speaker 14: know what about I'm just going to now play game.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to bring do this every day anyway. Don't
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: pretend that this is not one of your games, Mike. Okay,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: you're coming here. You're throwing some random if one name.
• 33:39
  Speaker 14: And I'm absolutely anyway, Mitch Barnett, we haven't even kicked off,
• 33:46
  Speaker 14: by the way, you realize the season.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Was chatting to Shawn Johnson yesterday.
• 33:50
  Speaker 14: Actually, Neil is he a likable guy.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: He's lovely. Yeah, I agree, got a second season for
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: his show apparently too. Well, that's good.
• 33:58
  Speaker 14: He's got a major part in this season's coverage, this
• 34:02
  Speaker 14: kind of coverage of the day.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: And so anyway, did he know who you were? Yes,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: he's all good, because that's embarrassing. I should have had
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: to ask who he was though, of course exactly.
• 34:11
  Speaker 14: Anyway, Mitch Barnett's going home. So we've lost them before
• 34:14
  Speaker 14: the start of the season, all right, look forward to.
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  Speaker 2: That, Mike. Next News Talks ZMB.
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