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- 0:00Speaker 1: I Am all in again.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Oh, I am all in again with Scott Patterson and
- 0:20Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Podcast.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one
- 0:25Speaker 1: eleven productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast Season three, Episode nine,
- 0:31Speaker 1: A deep fried Korean Thanksgiving air date November twenty six,
- 0:35Speaker 1: two thousand and two. So long ago. We very special
- 0:38Speaker 1: guest who needs no introduction. Beloved in the Gilmour universe.
- 0:44Speaker 1: You know our next guest as the perfect best friend
- 0:48Speaker 1: to Rory as Lane Kim Keiko againa joins us to
- 0:51Speaker 1: recap an iconic, extremely iconic Gilmore Girls episode. Keiko, welcome,
- 0:58Speaker 1: Nice to see you again.
- 0:59Speaker 2: How Hi, Nice to see you too, Scott. It's good
- 1:03Speaker 2: to be back.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Good to be back. Great episode synopsis is a Laurel
- 1:09Speaker 1: I is shocked to learn Rory has applied to Yale,
- 1:14Speaker 1: and they have a memorable Thanksgiving when they end up
- 1:18Speaker 1: forcing down four celebratory meals, including a formal dinner party
- 1:23Speaker 1: with Richard and Emily, directed by the Great Kenny Ortega
- 1:29Speaker 1: and written by the greater Dan Palladino. Before we get
- 1:33Speaker 1: into it, Kiko, what do you remember about filming this,
- 1:37Speaker 1: this iconic Thanksgiving episode?
- 1:41Speaker 2: That's a good question. How about you? What do you
- 1:44Speaker 2: remember I was gonna throw that potato back into your hands.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Well, then let's just get right into it. Prepping for Thanksgiving,
- 1:55Speaker 1: Loreal I has been avoiding Emily's calls, hasn't attended to
- 1:59Speaker 1: Friday Night dinners. Emily drops by at the end to
- 2:02Speaker 1: tell Laura I she expects her at Rory's Thanksgiving. You
- 2:07Speaker 1: know this is complicated for Rory and and and Laurel.
- 2:12Speaker 1: I Keiko, have you ever been to multiple Thanksgivings?
- 2:18Speaker 3: Oh?
- 2:18Speaker 2: Sure, in that same day. I mean, I'm going to
- 2:21Speaker 2: friends giving tonight after I stop by. Hear, but I
- 2:29Speaker 2: wonder if I've done it in the same day. Probably
- 2:35Speaker 2: because our family is kind of spread out, it's sort
- 2:37Speaker 2: of inevitable. And then we also have those same type
- 2:41Speaker 2: of things as what is what happened in the show
- 2:43Speaker 2: is that you have you have work relationships, you have
- 2:46Speaker 2: friend relationships, you have potential romantic relationships that you have
- 2:50Speaker 2: to juggle all at the same time.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Well, Thanksgiving Day, they first go to missus Kim, Rory
- 2:58Speaker 1: and Laura, and she's serving tofurky. David Galski's there, hired
- 3:05Speaker 1: by your mom as a Christian guitar player so that
- 3:10Speaker 1: they can lay the groundwork of Lane dating him. This
- 3:16Speaker 1: is such a great storyline. It's just so and so funny.
- 3:22Speaker 1: And the one thing I enjoyed so much is that
- 3:25Speaker 1: when we first well, you know, Dave comes in in
- 3:29Speaker 1: the prior episodes, right, and he's so on it and
- 3:33Speaker 1: he's so and you're so pleased with how he's handling
- 3:37Speaker 1: your mother that you just the beaming smile when he says, well,
- 3:41Speaker 1: my parents are in church now and they're going to
- 3:44Speaker 1: get out in like twenty minutes, and it's like code
- 3:49Speaker 1: to you to meet him in three and she doesn't
- 3:52Speaker 1: get it, you get it. It's just so great the
- 3:55Speaker 1: way this begins. What do you remember about out working
- 4:00Speaker 1: with Adam? Oh, because it seems like you guys have
- 4:05Speaker 1: this tremendous chemistry.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Adam is such a special performer. I
- 4:14Speaker 2: mean he's he's a very nice, charming guy in real life.
- 4:18Speaker 2: I mean, Adam is very easy to get along with,
- 4:21Speaker 2: and he's a he's a smart guy and a funny guy.
- 4:24Speaker 2: So it's it's fun. I think that he was happy
- 4:28Speaker 2: to have this little storyline as well, because it gives
- 4:32Speaker 2: him a chance to do all of the charming things
- 4:35Speaker 2: that he's able to do, and that's such a great character.
- 4:39Speaker 2: I mean, you have the obstacle of missus Kim and
- 4:43Speaker 2: then all of the shenanigans that need to happen to
- 4:47Speaker 2: to make this little budding romance occur.
- 4:53Speaker 1: And this was really kind of This wasn't the first
- 4:56Speaker 1: thing he'd ever done, but this was kind of his
- 4:59Speaker 1: a little bit of his breakthrough role, was it?
- 5:01Speaker 2: As you recall, I don't I don't remember what other
- 5:05Speaker 2: things he had done before that, but this, But I
- 5:07Speaker 2: think this is before he you know, he's a series
- 5:10Speaker 2: regular on a show. I'm assuming that recurring on a
- 5:13Speaker 2: television show is is great because you can really establish
- 5:17Speaker 2: a character and develop a fan base and things like that.
- 5:20Speaker 1: This is before the OC. So then he does this
- 5:24Speaker 1: for a year or two and then OC and then
- 5:29Speaker 1: Bubble And we have so.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Many people on our you know, whenever they do those
- 5:32Speaker 2: long lists of all the people that have been on
- 5:34Speaker 2: Gilmour Girls, like, I forgot that Matt Jones, who is
- 5:37Speaker 2: an incredible He's gone on to do a lot of things.
- 5:40Speaker 2: As I was rewatching this episode, I was like, oh
- 5:41Speaker 2: my god, Matt Jones is on there I actually do
- 5:44Speaker 2: improv with him very rarely, but sometimes I get a chance.
- 5:47Speaker 2: He's phenomenal funny. But he has a little bit at
- 5:50Speaker 2: Suki and at the deep fried part of the deep
- 5:54Speaker 2: product Thanksgiving, all these people, you know, kind of pop up.
- 5:59Speaker 2: They were on that show, they were on our show too.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so we're gonna come back of this,
- 6:06Speaker 1: but we're gonna head to Suki's now and and talk
- 6:10Speaker 1: about Jackson and his deep frying a turkey. I mean,
- 6:15Speaker 1: the setup for this is just so hysterically funny. I mean,
- 6:18Speaker 1: what a contrast, you know, you go from from missus
- 6:22Speaker 1: Kim's quite stayed uh Thanksgiving celebration to go into like
- 6:31Speaker 1: the you know, the the rock, the rock and roll
- 6:35Speaker 1: version of of what a Thanksgiving could be. I mean,
- 6:38Speaker 1: it was just so much fun.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Right, And I love watching Melissa in that scene, both
- 6:44Speaker 2: both at the very beginning when you see her and
- 6:45Speaker 2: then when you wrap up when you come back to
- 6:47Speaker 2: her later on. But she's just so she plays frazzled
- 6:51Speaker 2: so well, Like at the very beginning, we see her
- 6:53Speaker 2: just uh manic and you know, uh, but her her discos.
- 7:00Speaker 2: It's fun to watch certain people be uncomfortable and She
- 7:02Speaker 2: just makes it so funny that how displeased she is
- 7:05Speaker 2: with everything that's going on and behind her.
- 7:07Speaker 1: You know, all all she would need to do on
- 7:10Speaker 1: an acting reel is put that first scene and then
- 7:13Speaker 1: that drunk scene, and there you go. It shows the
- 7:16Speaker 1: full range. Yeah, basically the full range of what she's
- 7:20Speaker 1: capable of doing. I mean, it's it's it's she's so good.
- 7:24Speaker 2: She is so good.
- 7:25Speaker 1: She's so hard to play drunk. It's so hard to
- 7:29Speaker 1: do it. You did it very well as.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Well, maybe, Schmid.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Yes, no, no, no, you did a very good job
- 7:37Speaker 1: in that. You know that when they had that big
- 7:38Speaker 1: fight scene. There was a huge fight scene with right
- 7:41Speaker 1: Dean and Jess, And then you had that scene where
- 7:44Speaker 1: you were calling home, right right right, we're calling your
- 7:48Speaker 1: mother and you were hammered.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Uh huh?
- 7:53Speaker 1: Is that is that? What is that who you were calling?
- 7:56Speaker 2: Yes? I think I was calling you.
- 7:59Speaker 1: The guts called your mother while you were drunk.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Well doesn't isn't that how it happens? Though? Don't we
- 8:05Speaker 2: make all sorts of decisions when drunk. We many times regret,
- 8:12Speaker 2: you know, or conversations that need to be had, that
- 8:15Speaker 2: need that little extra juice in order to make them happen.
- 8:19Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never been drunk. I would not.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm kidding.
- 8:25Speaker 2: I was gonna say I never.
- 8:27Speaker 1: I've never been drunk called my parents, that's for sure.
- 8:30Speaker 1: But all right, so lots of fun there. Suki is
- 8:35Speaker 1: getting a little unnerved by, you know, just the the
- 8:42Speaker 1: vibe that's been created there with all of these raucous individuals,
- 8:47Speaker 1: and then Jackson's playing into it. He comes out with
- 8:50Speaker 1: a face mask and a and a bib and gloves
- 8:54Speaker 1: and he said, let's rock. Uh, And then they and
- 9:02Speaker 1: then they dip the turkey into the boiling oil and
- 9:08Speaker 1: the place explodes. I mean, the whole These guys just
- 9:12Speaker 1: oh man, they were tailgating. They were basically tail they
- 9:16Speaker 1: were tailgating. A Thanksgi family Thanksgiving fantastic. Then we see
- 9:21Speaker 1: uh uh and they had the Lukes, yeah, on their
- 9:27Speaker 1: quasi eating death march and they eat their male with
- 9:32Speaker 1: Jess and and and Luke, who's a little disappointed that
- 9:37Speaker 1: they couldn't come. And then Laureli does the nice thing
- 9:39Speaker 1: and says, well, we're gonna make it rory and just kissed.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. Let's talk about this kiss thing,
- 9:48Speaker 1: did you find it? Why is Jess so determined instead
- 9:56Speaker 1: of just being in love and focused on on this
- 10:00Speaker 1: budding relationship, right, Why does he risk, you know, appearing
- 10:06Speaker 1: manipulative or maybe he's just out of control, completely out
- 10:11Speaker 1: of control and almost demanding that it's not good enough
- 10:17Speaker 1: for him just to have won the battle and the
- 10:21Speaker 1: war with getting rory. You know, he's got to take
- 10:25Speaker 1: it to this level where he, let's rub it in
- 10:29Speaker 1: Dean's face, let's do this in front of Dozie. So
- 10:33Speaker 1: it kind of becomes about that. And when she calls
- 10:36Speaker 1: him on it and says, no, this is you know,
- 10:41Speaker 1: and he does, he's not pleased, and he just kind
- 10:44Speaker 1: of gives her a peck on sulks away. So, yeah,
- 10:49Speaker 1: that disturbed me. Did it disturb Yeah?
- 10:52Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think it's one of those things
- 10:54Speaker 2: where I think that, you know, because he's young, he's
- 10:58Speaker 2: a young person and he has a lot of maturing
- 11:00Speaker 2: to do. I think that's the thing that we yearn
- 11:03Speaker 2: for Jess to go through that kind of change. But
- 11:05Speaker 2: I think that that's a great example of not really
- 11:11Speaker 2: not valuing your partner's discomfort high enough and whatever it
- 11:18Speaker 2: is that you think is fair or or or right
- 11:20Speaker 2: or justified that you can never bulldoze. The bulldozing is
- 11:24Speaker 2: what's what's really uncomfortable. It's that if the if your
- 11:28Speaker 2: partner is uncomfortable, that's it's like, okay, let's hold on,
- 11:33Speaker 2: let's find out why it's a valuable, important thing.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a conversation that she's going to have to
- 11:40Speaker 1: have with him, like whoa. And if it happened again
- 11:45Speaker 1: where he just really insisted on it, then you've got
- 11:48Speaker 1: to reevaluate the whole relationship, right, I mean that's yeah, yeah,
- 11:53Speaker 1: that's well, we'll see what happens weaponizing a right right, right,
- 12:02Speaker 1: and then they finally head to their their last stop
- 12:07Speaker 1: Emily and Richards, right. And I don't know this, this
- 12:13Speaker 1: might be my all time favorite inside the Gilmour House
- 12:18Speaker 1: rep Parte.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Oh nice. Wow, that's saying a lot.
- 12:21Speaker 1: I mean, you just had the great lines flying around
- 12:26Speaker 1: the mile a minute. There was so much conflict there.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
- 12:37Speaker 1: It's necessary fuel. It's necessary tension, and it's a necessary
- 12:44Speaker 1: anxiety that that Laurel is having for you. Keiko. Is
- 12:51Speaker 1: Laurel I being selfish? Here? Is she making it about
- 12:56Speaker 1: her her feelings, or her contra or her parents, or
- 13:04Speaker 1: is it really Emily and Richard's total lack of respect
- 13:09Speaker 1: or total lack of recognition of the boundaries here and
- 13:15Speaker 1: respecting laurel I's you know, authority, respecting her relationship with
- 13:24Speaker 1: her own daughter. And you know that Richard and Emily
- 13:28Speaker 1: had these conversations before they went to I don't believe
- 13:32Speaker 1: Emily for a minute that she says I knew nothing
- 13:35Speaker 1: about this. Of course she did. They talked about it,
- 13:39Speaker 1: you know, they had to them. So what are your
- 13:43Speaker 1: thoughts on that, Laurle I really really really getting super
- 13:47Speaker 1: upset a couple of years.
- 13:50Speaker 2: I think that's what makes this relationship so good is
- 13:55Speaker 2: that Lorala I has such a sensitive spot there. You
- 14:02Speaker 2: know that the very like a light breeze will just
- 14:06Speaker 2: you know, hurt her. But it's believable. And I think
- 14:12Speaker 2: that's why we keep coming back to that, is that
- 14:14Speaker 2: it's just true people. We as people have those deep injuries,
- 14:20Speaker 2: and Lorala has this injury that she has never fully
- 14:24Speaker 2: recovered from. It's just this sensitive sore spot where she
- 14:28Speaker 2: feels like she's not she's not in control of her
- 14:33Speaker 2: own life, or wasn't in the past, and she feels
- 14:36Speaker 2: like Rory is an extension of her, and so to
- 14:38Speaker 2: feel when whenever she has that tiny little sense that
- 14:42Speaker 2: she's losing control of her of her autonomy, she it's
- 14:48Speaker 2: just inflamed. It's like it's like everything is just as
- 14:51Speaker 2: fresh as it was, you know, when she was a
- 14:54Speaker 2: child and she couldn't she had no real control over
- 14:58Speaker 2: her life and that and that's that's what I love.
- 15:01Speaker 2: That's why I think you have a series that could
- 15:03Speaker 2: last so long, is that Lauren was great at making
- 15:08Speaker 2: it believable in that moment that, yes, it's it's not
- 15:13Speaker 2: sensical how she's acting, but you believe that that's just
- 15:16Speaker 2: her trying to deal with her to get a handle
- 15:20Speaker 2: on her emotions.
- 15:21Speaker 1: Right, And I'm glad she's acknowledged that, you know, in
- 15:25Speaker 1: her little speech to Rory. Yes, the end of the episode,
- 15:28Speaker 1: you know, I understand in my mind, I wish my
- 15:32Speaker 1: mind could have a meeting with my body and tell
- 15:35Speaker 1: it like this is the rational approach. Of Course, you
- 15:38Speaker 1: want a backup plan. Of course, Yale would be a
- 15:41Speaker 1: great place in you coming out on the other side
- 15:44Speaker 1: of any of these Ivy League schools would be a
- 15:47Speaker 1: great thing. For you. Yeah, she just can't. It's it's
- 15:53Speaker 1: got to be impossible to deal with the meddling, right.
- 15:59Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and you can feel it in her, in
- 16:01Speaker 2: her whole I think. Yeah, so interesting about how she
- 16:05Speaker 2: talks about time, because that's also that's also her brain
- 16:09Speaker 2: trying to regain some sense of control. She's like, I
- 16:13Speaker 2: have a plan. It's going to be two hours. I
- 16:16Speaker 2: can I can manage this. She's just trying to put
- 16:19Speaker 2: all of these tools in place for herself to feel
- 16:22Speaker 2: like she's still in control, because she's barely hanging on.
- 16:28Speaker 2: And we believe her that she she needs all of
- 16:31Speaker 2: these different mental games that she plays with herself in
- 16:34Speaker 2: order to get a sense that she's in control of
- 16:37Speaker 2: this situation. Right. Yeah, it's fun. It is terrible to watch,
- 16:44Speaker 2: but fun also, right.
- 16:45Speaker 1: But it's you know, the absolute spine of this entire
- 16:49Speaker 1: piece is this relationship. Yes, it is this this fracture,
- 16:55Speaker 1: and you know, will it heal? Will they ever get
- 16:58Speaker 1: close to parody? Will they ever for distonte? You know?
- 17:01Speaker 1: And and it always seems they get a little they
- 17:06Speaker 1: get close sometimes and there's these little moments where there's
- 17:10Speaker 1: mutual respect and some love maybe you know, the light
- 17:13Speaker 1: shining a little brighter, and then Bubbo. There's so many
- 17:16Speaker 1: things that make it collapse and collapse fast because there's
- 17:21Speaker 1: such lack of trust. It's like it's like the two
- 17:24Speaker 1: sides do not trust each other. Yes, yes, so nobody,
- 17:29Speaker 1: nobody's getting the benefit of the doubts. She's not giving
- 17:32Speaker 1: them the benefit of doubt the same way. It's coming
- 17:34Speaker 1: back the other way.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Oh no, not at all, because I think for Emily, certainly,
- 17:39Speaker 2: what Laura did to her was the the worst pain
- 17:43Speaker 2: that she's ever felt, I'm sure you know, And so
- 17:46Speaker 2: she's dealing she's so wounded by this deep betrayal of
- 17:52Speaker 2: her daughter in that fierce rejection, that everything, everything that
- 17:57Speaker 2: she every time she speaks, it's loaded. You just even
- 18:01Speaker 2: feel how heavy because that guilt is always the guilt
- 18:11Speaker 2: that she's trying to enforce and impose on Laura. Lai
- 18:14Speaker 2: is always just behind her words because she's still nursing
- 18:19Speaker 2: that huge pain at rejection.
- 18:32Speaker 1: The question that's oft asked but to all of us
- 18:36Speaker 1: by the press and by fans, you know, why is
- 18:40Speaker 1: this show so enduring? Why does it hit people on
- 18:43Speaker 1: such a deep level. I think what we're discussing now
- 18:45Speaker 1: really addresses that it's because of this, this very anchored
- 18:53Speaker 1: and ancient pain that these two have for one another
- 18:58Speaker 1: or against, you know, Laura versus Emily and Richard. It's
- 19:04Speaker 1: it's it's so relatable, it's so universal, it's so deep,
- 19:10Speaker 1: and everything springs from that. And that's really the essence
- 19:13Speaker 1: of in a way, to one degree or another, all families.
- 19:21Speaker 1: M There isn't a family that hasn't experienced a touch
- 19:27Speaker 1: of this. There's families that have more strife than this,
- 19:31Speaker 1: But I mean this is the most universal, the most relatable.
- 19:36Speaker 1: I mean, what a great setup for a show. Yeah,
- 19:39Speaker 1: I mean what it's just a beautiful setup for a show.
- 19:42Speaker 1: I mean, it couldn't fail, yeah, right.
- 19:46Speaker 2: I think also something that that has kind of come
- 19:49Speaker 2: to me in more recent interviews is this thought that
- 19:54Speaker 2: I think perhaps something that special about Gilmourborls is that
- 19:59Speaker 2: you have people that disagree, but you know that they
- 20:05Speaker 2: love each other. You know that they love each other,
- 20:09Speaker 2: and so to be able to see people who do
- 20:13Speaker 2: not agree about anything, who have different philosophies, but you
- 20:20Speaker 2: know that the love is underneath. That's with Emily and Lorelei,
- 20:26Speaker 2: that's with missus Kimmon lane that comes up. It's a
- 20:29Speaker 2: you know, Taylor and Luke, I mean they are like
- 20:33Speaker 2: there are a lot of these different forces, but you
- 20:36Speaker 2: never doubt that everybody in this in this little bubble
- 20:40Speaker 2: of this world stars Hollow or the Gilmore Girls as
- 20:43Speaker 2: a whole that people love and need each other.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a love story.
- 20:49Speaker 2: It is a love story.
- 20:50Speaker 1: It's it's ultimately a love story. It's a it's a
- 20:52Speaker 1: dysfunctional family, yes, background, but at the forefront it's positive.
- 20:58Speaker 1: It's it's it's moving towards love. Yes, it's it's it's
- 21:03Speaker 1: just so remarkable. The setup is so good. Yeah, man,
- 21:08Speaker 1: that's why so many people right in the business, writers
- 21:13Speaker 1: have attempted to write something. It inspired a lot of
- 21:19Speaker 1: TV shows.
- 21:21Speaker 2: I yes, I think so. And it's interesting because you
- 21:25Speaker 2: think there are a lot of different aspects of the
- 21:28Speaker 2: show that you can pull from. Certainly the fast paced
- 21:33Speaker 2: dialogue and the uh uh not social commentary, but the
- 21:42Speaker 2: the oh my gosh, it's escaping me. But like the
- 21:47Speaker 2: where where you're naming a bunch of different references, right,
- 21:52Speaker 2: But I think one of the things that would be
- 21:54Speaker 2: I would love to see more of is a kind
- 21:59Speaker 2: of is a kind of positivity. That's it. That's the positivity,
- 22:07Speaker 2: but that you're not shying away from challenging, challenging emotions.
- 22:12Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe that's a show that I would
- 22:14Speaker 2: love to.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Right, And that's the message here right with Gilmore girls.
- 22:19Speaker 1: It's keep striving, keep the faith. It's going to get better. Yeah,
- 22:26Speaker 1: we keep loving each other, we keep trying, We're going
- 22:28Speaker 1: to know it is. It's it's it's moving forward. It's
- 22:32Speaker 1: it's moving us forward. It's it's it's a show that's
- 22:37Speaker 1: so full of hope. Yeah, by showing the uh, sometimes
- 22:42Speaker 1: the seamy side of the family dynamic. All right, m
- 22:50Speaker 1: Kirk and his cat Kirk.
- 22:58Speaker 2: But you know Sean hadcat too.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Did he really in real life?
- 23:03Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 23:04Speaker 1: Really? Yeah?
- 23:08Speaker 2: Yeah, so who knows.
- 23:11Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that maybe the funniest speech ever
- 23:16Speaker 1: written for him, Yeah, may have occurred in this episode
- 23:19Speaker 1: when he's describing in the diner the Thanksgiving, when the Thanksgiving,
- 23:24Speaker 1: when he's describing how the cat he how he hid
- 23:28Speaker 1: naked in his bathtub, knowing that cats have an aversion
- 23:33Speaker 1: to water, but not this cat, it seemed to empower. Yeah,
- 23:40Speaker 1: just the image of a crazed cat going at a
- 23:44Speaker 1: naked Kirk.
- 23:45Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, man, the Kirk Runners, you know, having that,
- 23:52Speaker 2: having that him be able to come in and just
- 23:54Speaker 2: pop in multiple times during an episode, and this is
- 23:57Speaker 2: a this is a classic one.
- 23:59Speaker 1: This is and uh, he's sustaining some pretty pretty serious
- 24:04Speaker 1: injuries and ultimately he uh he ended up sleeping on
- 24:11Speaker 1: the yes in the gazebo.
- 24:15Speaker 2: In the gazebo.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Oh my god, I tell you what a miracle that
- 24:21Speaker 1: character is. No, I know it, it's it's it's you know.
- 24:26Speaker 1: You get asked. I get asked this a lot. What
- 24:28Speaker 1: other character would you want to play in the show?
- 24:30Speaker 1: I always say Kirk. I'd love a shot it, Like,
- 24:33Speaker 1: I don't know if the entire run of the series,
- 24:35Speaker 1: I'd love to hit a couple of episodes is Kirk. Oh,
- 24:39Speaker 1: just to try to pull it off? Oh yeah, if
- 24:43Speaker 1: you could be that funny?
- 24:44Speaker 2: Oh, I know. And he got such great storylines too,
- 24:49Speaker 2: My goodness, what fun things he gets to play.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Then he must have had a blast writing for him.
- 24:54Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure, you know.
- 24:56Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. Yeah, one of the there were
- 24:59Speaker 1: a couple of really great moments. And we're bouncing around
- 25:02Speaker 1: a little bit, but that's okay. When he started playing
- 25:07Speaker 1: when you when you asked your mom, can Adam have
- 25:10Speaker 1: a break, and she says no, he's we hired him
- 25:16Speaker 1: to play. He gets no breaks, and he continues to
- 25:18Speaker 1: play softly, and then she starts walking away and he
- 25:21Speaker 1: starts riffing on with that Nirvana song. Yeah but and
- 25:24Speaker 1: she stops and turns like, what the heck?
- 25:29Speaker 2: Yes this morning when I was because I was doing
- 25:32Speaker 2: my rewatch early this morning. I think I got up
- 25:34Speaker 2: at like six point thirty this morning before I dropped
- 25:36Speaker 2: my husband off of the airport, and he was watching
- 25:39Speaker 2: that and we both burst out laughing because he's a
- 25:41Speaker 2: musician too, so that riff came up so good.
- 25:45Speaker 1: And then we get that beautiful call back after he
- 25:49Speaker 1: kisses you, oh yeah, and then he leaves and you're
- 25:56Speaker 1: just you just have this look on your face and
- 25:58Speaker 1: you're kind of like wavering a little. It's just kind
- 26:01Speaker 1: of like in La La Land. It was so great
- 26:04Speaker 1: that moment, and then we then the actual song called
- 26:09Speaker 1: I Don't Thinking Boy. That must have cost him a
- 26:10Speaker 1: pretty petty true right, Yeah, yeah, it was still fresher,
- 26:17Speaker 1: but probably not. I mean today it would be more,
- 26:19Speaker 1: but back then it was still but what a great moment.
- 26:23Speaker 2: They they love their music. The Palladinos. Oh yeah, yeah,
- 26:28Speaker 2: mm hmmm.
- 26:29Speaker 1: So great. Not a big Luke Laurelye show. It was really,
- 26:35Speaker 1: it was really the It was really the Keiko Missus,
- 26:40Speaker 1: Kim Dave Rgalski Show, and the Emily uh and the
- 26:45Speaker 1: Emily Richard Laurel Eye Show.
- 26:49Speaker 2: But you know what I thought was so nice, and
- 26:51Speaker 2: I meant to mention it when we're actually talking about
- 26:53Speaker 2: that scene, was that I love when shows do this
- 26:57Speaker 2: where they say, oh, he looked disappointed, you know, because
- 27:01Speaker 2: what you did was so subtle. And I love when
- 27:04Speaker 2: when and that because that shows what it really shows
- 27:08Speaker 2: to me is how well they know you right right?
- 27:11Speaker 2: You know. That's always my favorite thing because it actually
- 27:15Speaker 2: shows in a very quick way you get a feeling
- 27:18Speaker 2: of how characters are are related to each other when
- 27:23Speaker 2: they're so affected by a small gesture, right. And I
- 27:28Speaker 2: thought that was such a great I thought that was
- 27:30Speaker 2: just such a great way to show those complicated emotions.
- 27:34Speaker 2: And and how many times, you know, Luke said, oh,
- 27:37Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal.
- 27:39Speaker 2: But we knew, we knew that, you know, we know.
- 27:41Speaker 2: The opposite is true and just I love Also, I
- 27:45Speaker 2: love at the point where as soon as they sat down,
- 27:48Speaker 2: like all the plates are just fully dressed, you know,
- 27:50Speaker 2: like they all been sitting under the warmer, you know,
- 27:54Speaker 2: the whole time, just and they came as basically as
- 27:57Speaker 2: soon as they sat down, they're all like full right.
- 28:01Speaker 2: So it just tells so much with so little.
- 28:04Speaker 1: And I also like that she took the marshmallows off
- 28:06Speaker 1: his plate while he was getting Yes, more marshmallows for her.
- 28:11Speaker 2: Yes.
- 28:11Speaker 1: It just shows a closeness, you know, I really I
- 28:15Speaker 1: love that. But you're right, it's like this writing is
- 28:18Speaker 1: so good that the challenge is really how small can
- 28:24Speaker 1: I be?
- 28:25Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 28:26Speaker 1: And it really does give you that opportunity because that's
- 28:29Speaker 1: really where you want to live, in the small and
- 28:32Speaker 1: the smallness of it, because then it's so big, right
- 28:34Speaker 1: and you don't need and gosh, man, it's like acting
- 28:40Speaker 1: Police Central. So many times I have beg for another
- 28:45Speaker 1: take and I said, well why, It's like I just
- 28:47Speaker 1: thought it was too big and it was too showy,
- 28:49Speaker 1: and I got it, just I don't need to do that,
- 28:52Speaker 1: and they're like, uh okay, and then I'm like, thank.
- 28:55Speaker 2: God, oh nice, I didn't know that.
- 28:57Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, because you just don't need to do much. Yeah,
- 29:03Speaker 1: and that's that's the discipline with this writing, you know.
- 29:06Speaker 2: Well, I think it's also I mean, I think also
- 29:09Speaker 2: your character was one that had to be restrained because
- 29:13Speaker 2: it was all about restraint. You know, if you did
- 29:16Speaker 2: too much, and I'm sure whoever else was auditioning at
- 29:20Speaker 2: the time, you know, probably did it, probably did too much.
- 29:25Speaker 1: The supreme challenge of that role. Yeah, so many times
- 29:30Speaker 1: I just wanted to go bigger. And that's like, no, don't, please,
- 29:34Speaker 1: don't do that.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Right because if you kind of once you once you
- 29:38Speaker 2: go too far, it's hard to pull it back because
- 29:41Speaker 2: you are you already established it as a different type
- 29:44Speaker 2: of person. Yeah, it can't like you can't like rein it.
- 29:48Speaker 2: You can't put it back in the barn or whatever that.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Thing, right, horse horse out of the barn. Yeah. I
- 29:55Speaker 1: like those kind of roles. Yeah. Yeah, they're very challenging.
- 29:59Speaker 1: But gosh, man, you actually can do a lot. You
- 30:03Speaker 1: can do a lot on top of that. There's a
- 30:06Speaker 1: lot to do to cover. Yeah, there isn't nothing to do. Yeah, yeah, yes,
- 30:11Speaker 1: there's a lot you can do on top of it
- 30:14Speaker 1: without being obvious about it, and that's fun. It's fun
- 30:17Speaker 1: discovering that stuff. Oh man, I got do you miss
- 30:20Speaker 1: this show? Do you miss doing this dialogue? You miss
- 30:24Speaker 1: these situations that they put you in? I do you know?
- 30:27Speaker 2: What I did? Was when I was watching it. It's
- 30:30Speaker 2: so funny and actors are so such funny creatures or
- 30:34Speaker 2: artists or everything. I'm watching it going, oh, I wish
- 30:36Speaker 2: I could do that scene again. I think I would.
- 30:40Speaker 2: Do you know, you're always You're always like I'm always
- 30:43Speaker 2: recalibrating me like hypercritical a little differently if I had
- 30:48Speaker 2: another shot at it, right, But it's so you know
- 30:52Speaker 2: what else I thought though when I was watching it
- 30:54Speaker 2: and I was telling my husband after as well as like, damn,
- 30:59Speaker 2: it was well, it was well cast. You know. I'm
- 31:01Speaker 2: looking especially at like especially at Alexis and just thinking like,
- 31:07Speaker 2: she's she's she's an anomaly, and that she also talk
- 31:12Speaker 2: about restraints because you she's not out there like pushing
- 31:18Speaker 2: her acting on you. She's out there being and because
- 31:22Speaker 2: she is so the shyness and the reserve that you feel,
- 31:28Speaker 2: you just know as an audience member, you just feel
- 31:30Speaker 2: the sense of her. It's that other people can go
- 31:35Speaker 2: and be more extreme. And it's because you're reserved that
- 31:40Speaker 2: Lorala can be so extreme, you know. It's why Paris
- 31:44Speaker 2: works off of off of Alexis, do you know, because
- 31:48Speaker 2: she's so she's so still and people can be so
- 31:53Speaker 2: big around or when it worked as well, I don't think.
- 31:58Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't put to people like that together. Yea
- 32:02Speaker 1: as the core. You know, if you have two people
- 32:04Speaker 1: that are going off like the fourth of July at
- 32:06Speaker 1: all times, it gets a little exhausting. Yeah, she's smooth,
- 32:13Speaker 1: and but again she's working really small, yes, and she's
- 32:19Speaker 1: really good at it. Her instincts are really great. I'm
- 32:23Speaker 1: marvel at what she does for somebody who had like
- 32:28Speaker 1: very little acting experience if any. Yeah, right, I mean
- 32:32Speaker 1: she's just like coming at a was she even taking
- 32:35Speaker 1: acting classes and then she walks into this audition and
- 32:41Speaker 1: she was a freshman at NY she was like she
- 32:44Speaker 1: was like going to film school, right.
- 32:46Speaker 2: I think at the beginning she was even more interested
- 32:48Speaker 2: in directing or something like that. Yeah, film interested necessarily. Ye.
- 32:54Speaker 1: And she's got all of these instincts and it's just
- 33:00Speaker 1: marvel at it. Me too, I'm marvel at what she
- 33:03Speaker 1: was capable of doing. The more I watch this, I'm
- 33:06Speaker 1: just like, wow, me too. You know that's where I'm
- 33:09Speaker 1: trying to get to. Damn it. It's it's that easy.
- 33:18Speaker 2: You know, give us another decade and a half. Well,
- 33:22Speaker 2: it'll be.
- 33:22Speaker 1: Fine to get there one day.
- 33:24Speaker 2: We're going We're getting close.
- 33:26Speaker 1: We're getting there, We're getting there, all right. This closing scene, this, uh,
- 33:43Speaker 1: you know, Suki's brilliance, Melissa McCarthy's brilliance on full display
- 33:47Speaker 1: here doing an incredibly like if we were to compare
- 33:51Speaker 1: this to like the ten meter platform diving competition, this
- 33:57Speaker 1: would be a very degree of difficult on. This dive
- 34:02Speaker 1: is like through the roof. And she kind of did
- 34:07Speaker 1: it with ease.
- 34:09Speaker 2: Yes, it looks very easy.
- 34:11Speaker 1: And it and it and it and she the comedy
- 34:14Speaker 1: was there, She nailed all everything. Everything was perfect. That
- 34:22Speaker 1: that performance right there, the way she laid it down
- 34:25Speaker 1: was perfection. Now a detail left out?
- 34:30Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you say at ease? That's a great word. Yes,
- 34:34Speaker 2: she just let it flow.
- 34:36Speaker 1: Man. Man, I rewound that scene four times and watched it,
- 34:43Speaker 1: and it's just the woman is a miracle, a miracle.
- 34:49Speaker 1: Uh so really just just fantastic work. And and then
- 34:55Speaker 1: we have the final scene, the closing well, well not
- 35:01Speaker 1: the final scene. This is the penultimate scene where Rory
- 35:06Speaker 1: and just kiss She kisses him in front of the diner,
- 35:11Speaker 1: making a statement, making a big statement like we're doing
- 35:15Speaker 1: this in front of Luke and Laura l I and
- 35:19Speaker 1: here I go, I'm gonna smoot cheru right in front
- 35:22Speaker 1: of the window here right, And uh, it just makes
- 35:27Speaker 1: me like her even more because she's just trying to
- 35:30Speaker 1: make the guy feel better, you know, and she probably
- 35:35Speaker 1: wants to kiss him too.
- 35:37Speaker 2: Yeah, And she's trying to she's trying to grow up
- 35:42Speaker 2: in this town where everyone knows who she is. She's
- 35:46Speaker 2: kind of like she's kind of like this a celebrity.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Well it's a small town, so everyone knows who who
- 35:55Speaker 2: who everyone is. But but Rory, it's it's she is
- 35:59Speaker 2: like every one loves her, you know, everyone feels a
- 36:02Speaker 2: certain way of protective about her or and she and
- 36:06Speaker 2: and have known her since she was a child, and
- 36:09Speaker 2: so how does how does she establish herself as as
- 36:15Speaker 2: not a child anymore?
- 36:18Speaker 1: Ye? Growing pains? We're watching it, yeah, beautiful. Uh. And
- 36:23Speaker 1: then this this final confrontation scene between Jeane and Desk,
- 36:29Speaker 1: Gene and Dess Jess and Dean. Well, Dean's character takes
- 36:37Speaker 1: a step into the spotlight, doesn't he It's like, this
- 36:41Speaker 1: ain't over, buddy. The chickens are coming home to roost.
- 36:44Speaker 2: Now.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Uh, that was quite something. That was real drama. That
- 36:50Speaker 1: was that was a beautiful setup for what's to come
- 36:53Speaker 1: or what could come. And uh, you know, if I
- 36:56Speaker 1: got a six foot four dude who's angry and has
- 37:01Speaker 1: a real bond to pick, that's like Jess was looking
- 37:05Speaker 1: pretty small in that scene. Whunny. I mean you you
- 37:08Speaker 1: really notice the height difference there, and and and an
- 37:11Speaker 1: angry six foot four is much different from a from
- 37:14Speaker 1: a kind of a mousey guy who's just sort of
- 37:16Speaker 1: taking it on the chin all the time.
- 37:19Speaker 2: And we noticed that, we noticed that who do they
- 37:25Speaker 2: give the leather jacket to this time? It's I was like, oh,
- 37:31Speaker 2: they're establishing something. Who's the bad boy? Dean's wearing a
- 37:35Speaker 2: leather jacket, yes, has this nice blue sweater on. So
- 37:41Speaker 2: it's also one of those subtle things where you're like, oh, somebody,
- 37:45Speaker 2: somebody's getting tough.
- 37:47Speaker 1: Yeah, man, man, what's gonna happen? What's gonna happen? Overall?
- 37:55Speaker 1: I gotta say so far, and this keeps changing for you.
- 37:59Speaker 1: But this is my favorite episode so far.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Are you sure you don't say that all the time.
- 38:05Speaker 1: I don't say it all the time. I don't say
- 38:08Speaker 1: it all the time. This is about I thought, I,
- 38:11Speaker 1: you know, two on two prior occasions, I had favorite episodes,
- 38:14Speaker 1: like I didn't think anything could knock it off this.
- 38:18Speaker 2: Wow, Oh wow, wow, that's saying a lot.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Yeah, this this was my There just wasn't a flaw.
- 38:26Speaker 1: There was so much in it.
- 38:29Speaker 2: There are a lot of they stuffed it like they
- 38:31Speaker 2: stuffed the turkey.
- 38:32Speaker 1: Yes, Thanksgiving and it's a big it's probably a sweeps week.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Oh that's true, you know, thanksgiv big Thanksgiving episode. And
- 38:41Speaker 1: after I was done watching, you know, my wife came
- 38:45Speaker 1: in and we were watching the second half together and
- 38:50Speaker 1: I turned to when I said, this show is never
- 38:54Speaker 1: going to go away. She goes, you're just beginning to
- 38:57Speaker 1: realize that now, I said, But this doesn't age. This
- 39:05Speaker 1: is so good, I said, how is anybody ever going
- 39:09Speaker 1: to match this? Yeah? This is extraordinary. This show is extraordinary.
- 39:16Speaker 1: You know, we didn't even ask you any questions. You
- 39:19Speaker 1: narrated Christine Eckert's book Meet Me at Lukes. I did
- 39:27Speaker 1: about the life and love lessons of Gilmore Girls. You
- 39:33Speaker 1: narrated Meet Me at Lukes. You narrated it.
- 39:36Speaker 2: I did so the audio if you buy the audio book,
- 39:40Speaker 2: it's my voice, but it's really Christine's story. So a
- 39:45Speaker 2: lot of the book is a lot about her personal life,
- 39:48Speaker 2: which very interesting, and then also lessons that can be
- 39:52Speaker 2: learned from Gilmore Girls.
- 39:55Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, great, Okay.
- 39:57Speaker 2: I get that for a few for few days and
- 40:00Speaker 2: got to got to spend time with it and got
- 40:05Speaker 2: reminded also a lot about all of the different scenes
- 40:08Speaker 2: that are in Gilmo Girls. She kind of spans the
- 40:12Speaker 2: whole series.
- 40:13Speaker 1: In a way. Okay, cool, and something you're doing now,
- 40:17Speaker 1: you're starring in Breaking Bread and improv improvised family dinner
- 40:22Speaker 1: at the outside in theater every Saturday until Christmas. This
- 40:28Speaker 1: is an unscripted show. How's that going?
- 40:30Speaker 2: Yes? Oh, I love it. We just had our first one.
- 40:33Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm filling in and I'm adding a show
- 40:37Speaker 2: with them this Saturday because we have a cast that's
- 40:40Speaker 2: changing because it's improv But outside In is a new space.
- 40:46Speaker 2: It's Tamlintimita, who I've known for a long time, and
- 40:49Speaker 2: her husband, Daniel Blinkoff, and they do scripted and unscripted,
- 40:55Speaker 2: but the unscripted is as a result of a lot
- 40:59Speaker 2: of soul though together. So we get to know each
- 41:02Speaker 2: other as improvisers really well in this mt and then
- 41:06Speaker 2: this one is a holiday show, so we actually eat food.
- 41:09Speaker 2: We all bring. I bring mac and cheese. It's very good.
- 41:12Speaker 2: People love it. I know it's weird to brag about
- 41:16Speaker 2: mac and cheese, but I'm telling you it's really good.
- 41:18Speaker 2: If you had it, it's really good. And so we
- 41:21Speaker 2: bring it and we improvise the first half and then
- 41:24Speaker 2: the second part of the show after intermission we actually
- 41:28Speaker 2: eat and it's a family dinner. That's speaking of underlying
- 41:32Speaker 2: tensions within family. Things start kind of exploding and having
- 41:39Speaker 2: ramifications of all of the secrets that have sort of
- 41:42Speaker 2: built up over the.
- 41:43Speaker 1: That's fun, all right. It's super fun breaking bread and
- 41:46Speaker 1: improvised family dinner at the outside in theater every Saturday
- 41:50Speaker 1: until Christmas. Where's the outside in theater? Is it downtown
- 41:53Speaker 1: Highland Park Park?
- 41:55Speaker 2: It's new. Yeah, it's gorgeous town. I've I've loved her forever,
- 42:01Speaker 2: but she has like impeccable taste and in clothing and everything.
- 42:05Speaker 2: She always looks fantastic and she has brought that to
- 42:08Speaker 2: this space, so it just looks gorgeous. They have a
- 42:11Speaker 2: skylight that is like a stained glass skylight that is phenomenal.
- 42:20Speaker 1: All right, go check it out, everybody. Thank you again
- 42:25Speaker 1: for spending some time with us. It's always a pleasure
- 42:29Speaker 1: breaking down these episodes.
- 42:30Speaker 2: With you, and thank you.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not announcing anything, but maybe maybe maybe we'll
- 42:39Speaker 1: see over the holidays. I don't know. Perhaps perhaps maybe
- 42:44Speaker 1: we'll see it holidays made here. I don't know. I'm
- 42:47Speaker 1: not saying anything. Maybe we'll see you. I'm doing a residency.
- 42:51Speaker 1: I'm doing a seventeen day residency, so.
- 42:55Speaker 2: Sort of you are putting in the hours.
- 42:57Speaker 1: My friend, I'm gonna be there every day.
- 43:00Speaker 2: You're You're gonna need to drink your own coffee and
- 43:02Speaker 2: get there and have the energy.
- 43:10Speaker 1: Always enjoy, good luck with your new show and the
- 43:15Speaker 1: success of Meet Me Luke's and and remember, best fans
- 43:21Speaker 1: on the planet watching the best show on the planet.
- 43:24Speaker 1: And maybe that has ever been. The more I watch it,
- 43:27Speaker 1: the more I am convinced of that it's not just opinion,
- 43:31Speaker 1: it's becoming fact. It's becoming fact and keep the cards
- 43:37Speaker 1: and letters coming. And we really appreciate the communicas and
- 43:42Speaker 1: remember where you lead, we will follow.
- 43:44Speaker 3: Stay safe everyone, Hey, everybody to forget.
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- 44:19Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com