Latest / I Do, Part 2 / Love Island: How NOT To Say I’m Sorry #Alannah
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Monday, June twenty ninth, and
- 0:06Speaker 1: if you want a lesson in how to not issue
- 0:10Speaker 1: a public apology, look no further than Alana Kaiser, the
- 0:15Speaker 1: recently booted Love Islander, And with that, welcome to this
- 0:18Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ Rober. I don't want to
- 0:20Speaker 1: be too hard on this young lady. She's young, and
- 0:23Speaker 1: she hasn't been doing this. Maybe it's in terms of
- 0:26Speaker 1: public scrutiny and apologies as much as we have, but
- 0:32Speaker 1: this one didn't win her any fans.
- 0:35Speaker 2: No, because look, we all know Alana Kaiser. I think
- 0:39Speaker 2: at this point, if you're listening to this, you know
- 0:41Speaker 2: she came on as a bombshell at Casa Amore. And
- 0:45Speaker 2: just as she was coming on, so did an old video.
- 0:49Speaker 2: It resurfaced, showed up online and you see an even
- 0:54Speaker 2: younger Alana Kaiser singing along to a song and she
- 0:58Speaker 2: sings the N word.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Yeah, first time we've seen something like this, including on
- 1:02Speaker 1: this show.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Yes, she is one of many now the second this season,
- 1:07Speaker 2: and there were two others last season, so.
- 1:10Speaker 3: We're at four now.
- 1:11Speaker 2: I believe, at least in the last two seasons where
- 1:14Speaker 2: there has been some sort of racial slur said on
- 1:18Speaker 2: a video posted that resurfaces once folks find out who
- 1:23Speaker 2: is on the show.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Yeah, but right now it's three in words and one
- 1:28Speaker 1: Asian slur.
- 1:29Speaker 3: Right where we are is leading the past.
- 1:32Speaker 1: We are. We're up three to one right now. Nobody's
- 1:36Speaker 1: gonna catch us on this one. Probably videos keep coming,
- 1:40Speaker 1: but yes, that catches it up. We've been waiting to
- 1:43Speaker 1: hear from this young lady because we know these folks
- 1:45Speaker 1: do not get their phones. She has no idea that
- 1:47Speaker 1: the whole world was talking about her while she was
- 1:49Speaker 1: in there. She finally gets booted, she's out, she's off.
- 1:52Speaker 1: She issues Robes a and we're gonna let you hear
- 1:55Speaker 1: the whole thing. She put out. It's a one minute video. Yeah, Robes,
- 1:59Speaker 1: there's some you're editing. What's the cutting of the getting.
- 2:02Speaker 2: So, first of all, before you actually listen to it,
- 2:05Speaker 2: and we'll play it and dissect it a bit, but
- 2:08Speaker 2: if you actually watch it. She put it on TikTok,
- 2:10Speaker 2: and it is heavily edited where it's almost as if
- 2:15Speaker 2: she has all of these prepared statements she wants to read.
- 2:19Speaker 2: But maybe she didn't have it memorized, or maybe she
- 2:22Speaker 2: was reading it off to the right. It kind of
- 2:24Speaker 2: almost looked like she was reading something to me, because
- 2:27Speaker 2: you want to know why, I think she was reading something,
- 2:29Speaker 2: because she comes off extremely robotic, and sometimes when you're
- 2:34Speaker 2: not used to reading a teleprompter or reading a script,
- 2:37Speaker 2: you come off robotic. It didn't feel authentic. It didn't
- 2:41Speaker 2: feel like it was coming from her. It felt like
- 2:43Speaker 2: it was prepared and so in order. I think this
- 2:46Speaker 2: is ohso ironic to have it be exactly the way
- 2:49Speaker 2: she wanted it to be, to be presented in the
- 2:51Speaker 2: words she chose. She actually just did it in little
- 2:55Speaker 2: bursts and then edited them together. But it actually looks
- 2:59Speaker 2: it makes it look so inauthentic and so stiff and
- 3:03Speaker 2: so prepared and so edited that it actually does her
- 3:07Speaker 2: a disservice. Just forget what she said or the words
- 3:09Speaker 2: she chose. Just in general, the feeling of the video
- 3:13Speaker 2: is not one where you are She's not bringing you
- 3:17Speaker 2: along with her, she's not explaining who she is. She's
- 3:19Speaker 2: just robotically doing what she's told she has to do
- 3:22Speaker 2: to survive this.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Okay, and that's probably a okay, I'm not gonna who
- 3:28Speaker 1: am I to say when apologies should and shouldn't be issued,
- 3:31Speaker 1: and how I've screwed mine up by not putting one out,
- 3:36Speaker 1: but the one she decides to put out Robes. This
- 3:38Speaker 1: could have been done on paper, like she could have
- 3:40Speaker 1: just issued a statement. Reading it, it does take away
- 3:44Speaker 1: from something she was trying to say. But Robes, she
- 3:47Speaker 1: did what she was supposed to, and maybe she does
- 3:50Speaker 1: think every neat little word needs to be said the
- 3:53Speaker 1: exact same or the exact right way. The problem is there, Robes,
- 3:56Speaker 1: I could have forgiven a little if she made a
- 3:59Speaker 1: couple of flubs as she was going through it. These
- 4:02Speaker 1: were seemed like very much thought out mistakes in here Rope.
- 4:08Speaker 1: She said the wrong things in some places. I don't
- 4:11Speaker 1: know how else to say that.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Yeah, and because they were so prepared and deliberate. It's
- 4:16Speaker 2: concerning because as you were saying, and she was just
- 4:18Speaker 2: talking off the cuff and maybe flubbed up or said
- 4:21Speaker 2: something maybe in a way she didn't mean to, you
- 4:23Speaker 2: would almost be like, I get it. She was just
- 4:24Speaker 2: speaking from the heart and it came out that way.
- 4:27Speaker 2: This seemed very manicured and curated. And look, I think
- 4:33Speaker 2: part of what people love about TikTok is that it's
- 4:35Speaker 2: not curated. Yes, they do editing and it's fun, little
- 4:38Speaker 2: dance moves, all of that, and she's got that all
- 4:40Speaker 2: over her TikTok. I did happen to check it out.
- 4:42Speaker 2: But a lot of people go to TikTok to get
- 4:45Speaker 2: that authentic first person video thing where you're just laying
- 4:48Speaker 2: in your bed and saying what you think or just
- 4:51Speaker 2: shooting shooting from the hip, and that authenticity is what
- 4:54Speaker 2: brings people to TikTok and makes a lot of folks
- 4:57Speaker 2: TikTok stars because they're just unvarnished. She didn't do that
- 5:01Speaker 2: in this video, and what she chose to say was concerning.
- 5:04Speaker 1: All right, let's let you listen now to what she
- 5:06Speaker 1: chose to say. We're going to start and stop at ropes.
- 5:09Speaker 1: It's only a minute long. I'm not sure exactly how
- 5:11Speaker 1: I'll handle this, but here she is Alana Kaiser about
- 5:16Speaker 1: a one minute video she put on TikTok.
- 5:18Speaker 4: Take listen, Hi, everyone, I'm coming on here to address
- 5:22Speaker 4: some things that have been circulating online. I do want
- 5:25Speaker 4: to begin by addressing the video of me singing along
- 5:28Speaker 4: to a Roddy Rich song that contains a racial slur.
- 5:32Speaker 4: I'm sorry to whoever seen that video and has been
- 5:34Speaker 4: offended by it.
- 5:37Speaker 2: There's no emotion in her voice whatsoever. And it's look,
- 5:41Speaker 2: she might just be nervous, she might be angry.
- 5:44Speaker 3: Yeah, she seemed like she was a little annoyed that
- 5:46Speaker 3: she had to make this video.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Ropes. There was nothing coming from her emotion. There was
- 5:51Speaker 1: no emotion, and some would tell you that's how it's
- 5:53Speaker 1: supposed to be, how it should be. She did a
- 5:55Speaker 1: good job. Fine, My issue there is ropes. It happens
- 5:58Speaker 1: every single time. I am sorry if you were offended.
- 6:04Speaker 1: I'm sorry to whoever might be offended. We hear this
- 6:07Speaker 1: so many times, and apologies when you do that. You're
- 6:09Speaker 1: not apologizing for what you did. You're just sorry somebody
- 6:13Speaker 1: got pissed about it. That language robes immediately when I
- 6:17Speaker 1: hear that, m It's like, you know you could do
- 6:20Speaker 1: this in your own relationships. Well, I'm sorry you got
- 6:22Speaker 1: upset about what I know.
- 6:24Speaker 3: I'm sorry if I upset you. I'm sorry if that
- 6:27Speaker 3: upset you.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry for what I did. So that's one
- 6:30Speaker 1: oh one with apologies. Robe. Let's keep listening.
- 6:33Speaker 4: That was never my intention. The video is from six
- 6:36Speaker 4: years ago, and that word is just not in my
- 6:38Speaker 4: vocabulary anymore.
- 6:40Speaker 3: Huh anymore? Huh anymore? But it was before?
- 6:44Speaker 1: Huh.
- 6:45Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's one thing to sing along with,
- 6:48Speaker 2: and it's obviously not okay to.
- 6:50Speaker 3: A great point long with a song landed.
- 6:53Speaker 2: But if she says that's not in her vocabulary anymore,
- 6:56Speaker 2: it means that it was in her vocabulary at one point.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Robes, no one ever accused her. We weren't accusing her.
- 7:04Speaker 1: We were accusing her of not being mindful of what
- 7:06Speaker 1: she was singing and then posting it. She has come
- 7:08Speaker 1: out and told us, now.
- 7:10Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to say the N word.
- 7:11Speaker 1: What And this was the curated written yes.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Look.
- 7:16Speaker 2: She could have said, look, I slipped up when I
- 7:18Speaker 2: was singing. I should never have repeated that word. I'm
- 7:21Speaker 2: so embarrassed that I did. I would never do that now.
- 7:24Speaker 2: But she said something different, Robes, that word is not
- 7:29Speaker 2: in my vocabulary anymore.
- 7:32Speaker 1: So I guess she doesn't listen to rap anymore. See
- 7:35Speaker 1: that's just me being sarcastic. This is me, Robes. When
- 7:37Speaker 1: we first saw this story, we gave her grace. We
- 7:42Speaker 1: gave her grace for being young, for doing something stupid.
- 7:44Speaker 1: She shouldn't end her life, all these things, Robes, we
- 7:47Speaker 1: gave her grace. I'm backing off on the grace now
- 7:50Speaker 1: that I've seen this apology, and that's weird. That's poor girl.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Like I'm saying that this poor girl who screwed up
- 7:58Speaker 1: and screwed up bad is now getting some bad advice
- 8:01Speaker 1: or no advice at all. This is a tough one, babe,
- 8:04Speaker 1: This is a tough she continues.
- 8:06Speaker 4: I'd also like to address the screenshots that have been
- 8:08Speaker 4: going around online that have been falsified. What has been
- 8:11Speaker 4: shared does not reflect the truth.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Huh okay.
- 8:15Speaker 2: That also is very vague and confusing to follow. And look,
- 8:18Speaker 2: if she said I never wrote that those were not
- 8:22Speaker 2: my comments. Someone did that using ai yep, I don't
- 8:28Speaker 2: type those words.
- 8:29Speaker 3: I don't communicate using that word. That was not me.
- 8:32Speaker 2: I would get that. No, that's not what she said.
- 8:36Speaker 2: She said that it was all passive. It had been.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Falsified, misrepresented. She never said, Robes that she didn't that.
- 8:45Speaker 1: That was an easy one. Now, this was the one.
- 8:47Speaker 1: She could have just lied to me, and I would
- 8:50Speaker 1: have bought the lie, because we do know things can
- 8:52Speaker 1: be manipulated, and the screenshots that were used, it didn't
- 8:56Speaker 1: show an extensive conversation or something. It was just like
- 8:59Speaker 1: her name and something she said that was at least
- 9:01Speaker 1: two of them, and maybe even three that were out
- 9:03Speaker 1: there in which she flat out said the N word
- 9:05Speaker 1: ropes her. This young lady, she's things we didn't even
- 9:11Speaker 1: accuse her of. She is now making herself look a
- 9:14Speaker 1: little more suspicious. That word is not in my back
- 9:17Speaker 1: vocabulary anymore. And this thing, it's misrepresenting my words. It
- 9:22Speaker 1: doesn't really falsifying.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Maybe it was so vague and this girl, I don't
- 9:29Speaker 2: really know what she's saying. What's been manipulated? Was it
- 9:33Speaker 2: taken out of context? Was it actually a completely made
- 9:39Speaker 2: up post that she never commented on, Like, I don't
- 9:43Speaker 2: know what she's even saying.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Is it possible she forgot she said it? Is it
- 9:50Speaker 1: possible it was such a frequent part of her vocabulary
- 9:53Speaker 1: that is not a big deal.
- 9:54Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know. I mean, that's the thing.
- 9:56Speaker 2: And the thing is, if she wanted us to know,
- 9:58Speaker 2: if she wanted to clear it up, if she had
- 9:59Speaker 2: a real defense that she did not.
- 10:03Speaker 3: Type that word in a comment, then she could just
- 10:06Speaker 3: have said that.
- 10:07Speaker 2: So I just feel like by her ambiguity that there
- 10:11Speaker 2: is some The truth is in there somewhere, I just
- 10:14Speaker 2: don't know where it is.
- 10:15Speaker 1: All right, what else you got for as Alana?
- 10:17Speaker 4: And it's never been in my character to discriminate against
- 10:20Speaker 4: anybody's skin color. I do want to say directly that
- 10:23Speaker 4: I do not support racism or discrimination of any kind.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think anyone supports racism. So that was
- 10:30Speaker 2: an interesting choice.
- 10:32Speaker 1: She might make me nervous. I don't know what's happening
- 10:35Speaker 1: she read this.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't support racism.
- 10:38Speaker 1: That's a weird thing, you know what. That might be
- 10:40Speaker 1: a young thing, maybe, Well, if she didn't get help,
- 10:43Speaker 1: she's twenty one. She did not get help. That sounds
- 10:46Speaker 1: like anyone with any experience of any kind in life,
- 10:50Speaker 1: and certainly in public life, would not let her get
- 10:53Speaker 1: in front of a camera and say that. If she
- 10:55Speaker 1: would have let somebody read see it after she taped it,
- 10:58Speaker 1: they would say, hey, get a couple of problems here. Well,
- 11:01Speaker 1: either one of us, dear lady, don't say this.
- 11:03Speaker 2: I'm surprised she didn't have any help from a crisis manager,
- 11:06Speaker 2: because look, they're out there, we know, And it seems
- 11:10Speaker 2: as though the other folks who have had this similar issue.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Have done really well, have done a really good job
- 11:15Speaker 2: at apologizing owning it.
- 11:17Speaker 3: It's never acceptable. I own what I did.
- 11:20Speaker 2: I apologize for what I did and for hurting people
- 11:23Speaker 2: with my insensitive racist language, like people the other That
- 11:29Speaker 2: is my recollection that Look, you can't ever unsay something,
- 11:32Speaker 2: but you can make amends. And I feel like the
- 11:34Speaker 2: other contestants did a significantly better job.
- 11:37Speaker 1: And maybe she's flapping in the wind out there on
- 11:39Speaker 1: her own and can't find a friend, maybe people aren't
- 11:42Speaker 1: calling and rushing to help her out of this situation.
- 11:45Speaker 1: But what a weird line. I do not support racism
- 11:48Speaker 1: of any kind. That's one thing. You just don't have
- 11:51Speaker 1: to say that it's in a sumpthing I don't support.
- 11:54Speaker 1: It's a weird way to write that sentence. Baby, it
- 11:57Speaker 1: just seems really young.
- 11:58Speaker 2: I would say, call me crazy, but I would even
- 12:02Speaker 2: argue that a lot of racists don't think they're racist,
- 12:07Speaker 2: and they would say they don't support racism.
- 12:09Speaker 3: So, like you know what I'm saying.
- 12:11Speaker 2: It's one of those strange things where I don't know
- 12:14Speaker 2: of anyone who supports racism vocally and I but they
- 12:21Speaker 2: don't think they are, and they certainly don't support it,
- 12:25Speaker 2: but they are so I.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Just this whole apology was deeply confusing to me.
- 12:30Speaker 1: I let her wrap it up for us here, and.
- 12:32Speaker 4: I never have When I first found out that these
- 12:35Speaker 4: things were going around online, it really broke my heart
- 12:38Speaker 4: and I couldn't do anything about it. But this has
- 12:41Speaker 4: definitely been a learning lesson for me, and it sucks
- 12:44Speaker 4: that I didn't get a chance to really show my
- 12:47Speaker 4: personality and who I am.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Hi everyone, she starts over again.
- 12:53Speaker 1: I have spoken about her situation with more heart and
- 12:56Speaker 1: passion than she just did.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Yes, it was robot. That was the other thing.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Just in its entirety, it did not feel genuine, It
- 13:05Speaker 2: did not feel heartfelt.
- 13:08Speaker 3: It wasn't let's be honest, it wasn't.
- 13:10Speaker 1: I guess I want to leave space robes that. Maybe
- 13:12Speaker 1: it just she wasn't a good performer. Maybe her heart
- 13:15Speaker 1: is in the right place, Maybe she has learned something.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Maybe she doesn't have to do anything else in the
- 13:19Speaker 1: public view except go back to college and this will
- 13:22Speaker 1: all go away. So maybe she's not thinking about a
- 13:25Speaker 1: long term career. Why I need to change my public
- 13:28Speaker 1: standing up. Maybe she's not thinking that bro she said
- 13:30Speaker 1: what she needed to say, she thinks, but I just ah,
- 13:34Speaker 1: she needed some advice, she needed some help. It really
- 13:37Speaker 1: does feel like this young lady needs some guidance of
- 13:40Speaker 1: some kind. And I don't know. I just hate to
- 13:44Speaker 1: dismiss or throw someone away like that because of a
- 13:47Speaker 1: mistake she made. But when you start compounding this didn't help.
- 13:51Speaker 3: It didn't.
- 13:51Speaker 2: And when we come back, let's talk about what she
- 13:54Speaker 2: didn't talk about. I wanted to hear her address the
- 13:58Speaker 2: very public display of.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Rejecting men of color and.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ
- 14:16Speaker 2: were going into one of the many scandals unfortunately for
- 14:20Speaker 2: the Love Island franchise, but this latest one, twenty one
- 14:24Speaker 2: year old Alana Kaiser.
- 14:25Speaker 3: She was kicked out.
- 14:27Speaker 2: She now has issued an apology video, which hasn't really
- 14:31Speaker 2: cleared much up and if anything, has caused some more
- 14:35Speaker 2: confusion and I have some more questions. But look, she
- 14:38Speaker 2: robotically somewhat apologized. Let everyone know she doesn't support racism
- 14:44Speaker 2: and the N word is no longer in her vocabulary.
- 14:47Speaker 2: But she didn't address and you know, she has probably
- 14:51Speaker 2: read a lot of what is being said online. And
- 14:54Speaker 2: one of the biggest complaints fans had was not just
- 14:58Speaker 2: obviously about the surface video or even these screenshots that
- 15:02Speaker 2: were purportedly from her, but her actions on the show
- 15:07Speaker 2: when she was introduced.
- 15:09Speaker 1: And wasn't this a matter we saw this before we
- 15:13Speaker 1: saw the videos, correct, before we had any inkling about
- 15:16Speaker 1: anything having to do with the N word or her
- 15:18Speaker 1: being accused of being a racist of any kind rope.
- 15:20Speaker 1: She comes out and we watch her plainly, clearly go
- 15:23Speaker 1: through kiss the first what two three guys? She made
- 15:27Speaker 1: a point and skipped over the brothers. She didn't kiss Corbyn,
- 15:31Speaker 1: she didn't kiss case she didn't kiss Sincere, and she
- 15:34Speaker 1: almost was stopped by them and was dismissive and kept moving.
- 15:38Speaker 2: Yet she didn't even get close to Sincere. I don't
- 15:41Speaker 2: even think she touched him. And she was making out
- 15:44Speaker 2: like crazy with Bryce, with Zach and with who am
- 15:50Speaker 2: I forgetting Caleb? So folks noticed this robe before this
- 15:56Speaker 2: video resurface.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Because it wasn't just a matter if she kissed those
- 15:59Speaker 1: three and didn't kiss those three she made points like
- 16:02Speaker 1: she seemed really stand off fish and rejected those Maybe
- 16:05Speaker 1: she's not in the black guys.
- 16:06Speaker 2: I was trying to give her space in that one
- 16:08Speaker 2: because Casey did inappropriately slap her butt, and so I
- 16:11Speaker 2: could see she got annoyed, and she said, that's all
- 16:14Speaker 2: you're getting, But then why are you going to Maybe
- 16:17Speaker 2: she was so rattled or so annoyed that she just
- 16:20Speaker 2: skipped over the last two because she didn't want to
- 16:22Speaker 2: put herself in that position. But regardless, the optics were terrible,
- 16:26Speaker 2: and I do think if that was the case, she
- 16:29Speaker 2: should have said and I also want to address my
- 16:31Speaker 2: behavior on the show and just explain maybe what was
- 16:33Speaker 2: going on in her head. I know that it looked
- 16:36Speaker 2: one way, but I want you to know what was
- 16:38Speaker 2: really happening. She said she was disappointed that she didn't
- 16:40Speaker 2: get to show her personality. We saw her personality, and
- 16:43Speaker 2: what we saw people had some questions, and she didn't
- 16:46Speaker 2: address that. I think that was a choice. She has
- 16:49Speaker 2: to know that that's a huge part of what people
- 16:51Speaker 2: are saying about her seeming racist behavior.
- 16:55Speaker 1: I just wonder if people if she thinks or this
- 16:57Speaker 1: was enough. But okay, I did it, this worked out.
- 17:01Speaker 1: She's seeing the blowback now, babe.
- 17:03Speaker 3: I mean it looked like she was It looked like
- 17:04Speaker 3: a hostage video.
- 17:05Speaker 1: It did she was, Yeah, it was emotionless, completely devoid
- 17:08Speaker 1: of any you know what, you don't need emotion, you
- 17:11Speaker 1: don't need anger, you don't have to. You just have
- 17:12Speaker 1: to show somebody your care. And the way you do
- 17:14Speaker 1: that Robes is not robotically reading a statement.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Like she did that's heavily edited.
- 17:19Speaker 1: I hope she's okay, man, I hope she's gonna be okay.
- 17:21Speaker 1: I hope she does learn a lesson. I hope we
- 17:22Speaker 1: can all learn a lesson from this. I just this
- 17:25Speaker 1: didn't help.
- 17:25Speaker 2: You.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Think we'll hear from her again.
- 17:29Speaker 3: I hope not for a while.
- 17:30Speaker 2: And look, I really do think this might be a
- 17:32Speaker 2: case study in how not to apologize.
- 17:34Speaker 3: Just it's worth that much.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Anyone in any relationship who has to say they're sorry,
- 17:40Speaker 2: don't be like a lota. And with that, everyone, we
- 17:44Speaker 2: always appreciate you listening to us. I made robot alongside
- 17:47Speaker 2: DJ Holmes.
- 17:47Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon.