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- 0:01Did you know that 90 % of the world's millionaires
- 0:05invest in real estate? Well, I'm Angel with the
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- 1:00joining us here today. Now I agree like the house
- 1:05we have in Lubbock we bought it in 2003 and I
- 1:08don't even know we got it for 55 or 65 ,000 it
- 1:11was a hill it was built in the 1970s. It's a
- 1:14322 it had a huge backyard right outside the
- 1:18loop which in Lubbock if you're inside the loop
- 1:20I guess it's more ideal than if you're outside
- 1:22the loop there's all these little weird nuances
- 1:24there but um it's been a good house. And last
- 1:28I heard the tax value on it was well over a hundred
- 1:30thousand now. And yes, we've had it 20 years,
- 1:33but still. We didn't do anything really. Um,
- 1:38we lived in it when it still had shag carpet
- 1:40and all sorts of atrocities. Um, after the make
- 1:44ready, it was nicer than it ever was when we
- 1:46lived in it. That's great. There's been some
- 1:49updates like to some, it's, um, the bigger, thicker
- 1:52commercial tile we put. Throughout the kitchen
- 1:55and the entryway and I think we've done some
- 1:57LVP in the bedrooms. Um, so we've, we've been
- 2:01continually upgrading it over the 20 years, but
- 2:04not 50, 60 ,000 worth. Um, and so it's appreciated
- 2:09over time and we've cash out refied it. I don't
- 2:12know, three or four times. That's awesome. So,
- 2:16no, that's, I don't, I don't know that we'll
- 2:17get rid of it. You know, there's no, there's
- 2:20no paying points, no reason to, you know what,
- 2:22just, um, And that cashflow pays for, you know,
- 2:27someone's college or, you know, it pays for your
- 2:30retirement, you know, so passive income is always,
- 2:34uh, always a positive in my eyes for sure. Well,
- 2:37and we always figure like if our girls decide
- 2:40to go to Texas tech, it's, it's a three bedroom
- 2:42home. They can live on the master suite side
- 2:46and rent out the other two, the other two bedrooms.
- 2:49Um, so. there's already a house there and I really
- 2:53feel like wherever they choose to go to college
- 2:55if they choose to go to college for us it makes
- 2:57more sense to buy a house there and or even a
- 3:02duplex tri or quad and have them live in one
- 3:05unit and rent out the other ones or live on one
- 3:07side of the house and rent out the other sides
- 3:09of the house I mean it's are they the rooms there's
- 3:11a lot of options there and for us it makes sense
- 3:14and if the girls at that point in time have money
- 3:17to invest on their own they can put their own
- 3:20money in the house and get to see how that return
- 3:22works for them so it's um yeah it's a work in
- 3:27progress but the houses we have here in which
- 3:30fall falls we've had for a long time too no that's
- 3:32great that's a great yeah i think it is too and
- 3:37like for the ones here i think we've had two
- 3:40for like i don't know over 10 years and then
- 3:43the last two we've had a couple of years now
- 3:46but the last two came in a portfolio and we'd
- 3:49never done a portfolio purchase. And that was
- 3:52neat. It started out five houses, but the guy
- 3:55kept selling them out from under us. And we were
- 3:58like, dang it, quit selling the houses. We wanted
- 4:00to buy all five. And we wound up getting two
- 4:04for like 110 ,000. And so the mortgage on them
- 4:09is super low and they cashflow amazing. That's
- 4:12great. So those are our youngest two investments,
- 4:15I guess. You know what, that's great. The things
- 4:19I invest in, I wish I could say everything's
- 4:22100 units and up. It's not. I mean, it's all
- 4:26relative and sometimes you just got to take what
- 4:28the market's giving you. And if it's a house
- 4:31that makes sense and it doesn't take a lot of
- 4:34your time away from your main focus, why not?
- 4:39So I think, I think it's all relative of the
- 4:41size. I mean, I don't think everything has to
- 4:43be 150 units or 350 units. I think you could,
- 4:47you know, in my last couple of purchases were
- 4:5013, 20, 12, you know, so would I like bigger?
- 5:00Yeah, you know, I would. And, but they're sort
- 5:02of in the location of some other properties I
- 5:04own. So it just makes sense. You know, we've
- 5:07got, we've got some economy. economies of scale
- 5:09with management. So that works fine. And, you
- 5:13know, it works. And that's sort of one of the
- 5:17things I've been working on this year, actually
- 5:21last year, this year, is I'm really looking for
- 5:23strategic partners in areas that I'm not in.
- 5:26And, you know, you can't be everywhere, but I'd
- 5:28like to have some boots on the ground in an area
- 5:30that I like the you know, the fundamentals of
- 5:35it, you know, the job growth and diversification
- 5:39and, you know, people moving in state and all
- 5:41that good stuff. Unfortunately, Illinois is not
- 5:43one of those. So which is where I live right
- 5:45outside of Chicago. So I'm looking in the Midwest,
- 5:48I'm looking in the Southeast for opportunities
- 5:52that that makes sense. And, you know, if you
- 5:54have a partner there or if you got boots on the
- 5:56ground, you know, they've got skin in the game.
- 5:58And, you know, it's I think it's a win -win.
- 6:01And that's one of the things I'm mainly I'm really
- 6:03focusing on right now. Yeah, absolutely. And
- 6:07to kind of move a little bit here, I'm really
- 6:11glad that we have the residential experience
- 6:13that we have because one of our big overwhelming
- 6:18why is really our son and with him having a rare
- 6:21genetic condition and then our daughters who
- 6:24are typical that will one day have to take over
- 6:27care of their brother. And so There's a lot of
- 6:31moving parts within that also, but should Anson
- 6:35ever reach a point of independence where he could
- 6:38live in a group home setting, we want to own
- 6:41the home. And so like we've got the residential
- 6:45experience. We know how to buy a single family
- 6:47home. We know how to look for the things it needs
- 6:50to have. We know how to get the property management
- 6:52in there. But when you add that group home part,
- 6:56it adds like this whole different level. So it
- 7:00makes it almost like a multifamily because you've
- 7:03got like a business in there too, except that
- 7:05you're also adding in like medical and insurance.
- 7:08And you know, you might need a CNA. So that's
- 7:11like your certified nursing assistant, or you
- 7:13might need an LVN. So your vocational nurse or
- 7:16even an RN, those are your registered nurses.
- 7:19So there's all of these layers of what can get
- 7:21involved. And I know that you've done something
- 7:23similar to that. For your why, do you want to
- 7:28talk about that? Sure. My why is my oldest son,
- 7:33Ethan. And I get emotional as I'm even talking
- 7:37about it, but Ethan also has a genetic disorder.
- 7:42And Ethan just turned 30, so he is definitely
- 7:48an adult. My wife and I are guardians for Ethan.
- 7:54And our worry forever has been what happens when
- 7:58we're not here. So my wife and I, we looked around
- 8:04the country for various programs that work with
- 8:09adults with special needs. And let me say this.
- 8:17Ethan did go to some camps and he went to some
- 8:19summer programs and did some school out state.
- 8:23in Massachusetts when he was in his late teens.
- 8:27So we did have sort of a background of what this
- 8:31looks like, but more from a school aspect. And
- 8:33then after school, when one turns 22, it's called
- 8:37like the cliff that the government is not responsible.
- 8:40They don't have to give you any more school related
- 8:48help or programs. you're sort of on your own.
- 8:52There is disability that one could get at that
- 8:54age, but, you know, it's tough. So when our son
- 8:59turned 22, we had things in order of looking
- 9:05for a place for him to live, to thrive. And we
- 9:10bought an eight unit apartment building a couple
- 9:13of miles from our house. And right now we've
- 9:16got nine young adults living there with special
- 9:18needs. My wife, I'll give her the credit, because
- 9:24I'm more the real estate side of it, but she
- 9:28looked at programs all over the country. I went
- 9:31to some as well. And we tried to take the best
- 9:33of the best features from these programs and
- 9:35tried to put that in our home. And we do call
- 9:43it home because our young adults, who we still
- 9:46call them kids, think it is their home. they
- 9:50literally do. So we worked with an organization,
- 9:54a local organization who works with the special
- 9:56needs population who prior to six, seven years
- 10:01ago was more like camps and day programs and
- 10:05we were the first residential program and so
- 10:10they help us with social recreational, social
- 10:17recreation, job coaching, transportation, food
- 10:23preparation for our kids. And it's worked out
- 10:29great. I mean, nothing is perfect, but it's worked
- 10:31out real well. My son, Ethan loves where he lives.
- 10:35He's been there for six years. Our apartment
- 10:38building, it's eight apartments. All two bedroom,
- 10:43one and a half bath. And we've got a couple of
- 10:47typical renters there as well. So it's not all
- 10:49just our group. Some of our participants, our
- 10:55residents, there's two to an apartment. Some
- 10:59we just have one. It just depends on the situation.
- 11:03And we do have... Our staff, it's a company called
- 11:07Keshet, they're in Northbrook, Illinois. They
- 11:11oversee it and it's worked out real well. It
- 11:16helps with their independence. All our kids either
- 11:21work or volunteer from like mid -morning till
- 11:24early afternoon, whether it's working at Home
- 11:29Depot or working at local grocery stores. Some
- 11:34of them volunteer at the library or at other,
- 11:38you know, other, you know, they volunteer their
- 11:43time in other ways for the community. So it works
- 11:45out well. So, but on the time they're not there,
- 11:48which is about five hours a day, we do have,
- 11:51we do have staff there because our, you know,
- 11:54our kids, their challenges, there's a wide range
- 11:57of their needs. But it works out well. It's been
- 12:02working out real well. And my wife and I are
- 12:04happy to talk to anybody to explain what we've
- 12:07done. Because we're trying to make the world
- 12:10a better place. And fortunately or unfortunately,
- 12:14some of us, some of our family members and friends
- 12:17have some challenges that need that extra help.
- 12:19And we like to help others. Wow. And that's,
- 12:25I think it's really important because I think
- 12:27what a lot of the typical population doesn't
- 12:29understand is that 22 year old drop. Um, and
- 12:34I think it, I think it's nationwide cause it's
- 12:36the same here in Texas. Um, up until Anson's
- 12:4022nd birthday, he'll have services. He can go
- 12:43to school, um, after he graduates. So after his
- 12:47senior year, cause he's an eighth grader right
- 12:48now, which blows my mind. Um, After he graduates,
- 12:53he can continue going. And I think it's still
- 12:55with the high school event. Um, he'll continue
- 12:58going to school and his birthday is August 1st.
- 13:02So he'll go through his 21st year. Um, and it's,
- 13:07it's hard because like you had someone basically
- 13:11keeping your kid. with life skills and making
- 13:15sure that your child is understanding like how
- 13:17they're going to interact in the community and
- 13:19all of those things and then all of a sudden
- 13:21it's gone and maybe you're lucky enough to have
- 13:25an arc in your community maybe you don't and
- 13:28by arc i mean the organization not like noah
- 13:31yeah i got it so i mean there's the the arc like
- 13:36right now the arc has stepped in and they give
- 13:39transportation to our son because um Jason and
- 13:42I are teaching math at our girls school two days
- 13:46a week in the morning from like eight to nine
- 13:48twenty um and so the arc now comes and picks
- 13:51him up from the school and it's so funny because
- 13:53he just sits in the chair and I have my kids
- 13:56doing like a bell ringer and then we put him
- 13:58in the van to go to school and then I come back
- 14:00in and we go to a different room and do the lessons
- 14:02um But it's just funny because we have to pay
- 14:06for that. And it's kind of wild because the school
- 14:13system really should be providing the transportation,
- 14:17but they will only provide transportation from
- 14:20home to school and school to home. But it used
- 14:24to be that they would supply the transportation
- 14:26from Spectrum to the school. And we just had
- 14:30to get Anson and Spectrum his ABA. So we just
- 14:32had to get him to ABA and then the rest of the
- 14:34day was fine. And then his ABA therapy moved
- 14:37to a different building and transportation was
- 14:39no longer offered. And then the pandemic hit
- 14:42and we were fighting it. We had a lawyer from
- 14:44disabilities rights that was helping us fight
- 14:46it. And then the pandemic hit and somewhere it
- 14:49got scooped under the rug and we signed something
- 14:51and that was a done deal. But we're fortunate
- 14:55enough to have an arc here and they are providing
- 14:59transport daily they come and pick him up from
- 15:02either the house or the high school of my daughter
- 15:05where we are teaching at and then they take him
- 15:08from his school um they take him from spectrum
- 15:12to his school and then the bus brings him home
- 15:14because again the school will provide transportation
- 15:17between home and school but it's um it's just
- 15:21really frustrating that the needs aren't thought
- 15:25of um because there's not If you're not choosing
- 15:30to stay in a poverty, like in a cycle of poverty
- 15:33yourself, you've, you're going to have a job.
- 15:38And so you're not going to be at home. And the
- 15:42other thing that happens with transportation
- 15:44in the special needs community is you may say
- 15:47you're going to be there at eight 30 or eight
- 15:4915, but if another person on the schedule is
- 15:53having a meltdown or is having some kind of an
- 15:57episode. whether it be epileptic or OCD or whatever
- 16:00it is, anxiety, if something's happening, then
- 16:04the schedule is going to be modified. And so
- 16:08being on a schedule where all of the people that
- 16:12are involved in the transportation, other than
- 16:14like the driver and the assistant are in this
- 16:18special needs community, nothing can really even
- 16:21be set in stone. And so it's just like, holy
- 16:25moly, it's hard. the people affected by special
- 16:30needs and the families affected by special needs
- 16:32in the United States is it's no small number.
- 16:36There's a lot of families affected. And so it's
- 16:40going to take people like you and people like
- 16:42us and people out there that are speaking out
- 16:45and providing services and providing residential
- 16:49opportunities for people to really start to understand
- 16:53that this isn't just one or two kids out there
- 16:57in an entire state, it's full populations. And
- 17:00we don't hide them in institutions anymore. They're
- 17:05a part of the family and they're active parts
- 17:06of the family. So there have been big changes
- 17:10in the last 75 years.