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Emergency Manager: It’s Much WORSE Than They Say, and China May Be Behind It · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. So, obviously, we've all been following the story of the massive disaster of the train that derailed, and then the the authorities lit this thing on fire and are burning this massive chemical mess, which is affecting potentially millions and millions of people right here in my backyard in Ohio. And so joining us today is a man named Don Lauks, who is a he's ex military, served for multiple multiple multiple years and has a lot of experience from that, but he's also someone who's an expert in hazardous materials and someone in Texas, if there is a an emergency FEMA can't get to, he's certified to go address this emergency. So this guy really understands how to take care of an emergency.
• 0:54
  So what are we talking about? What is really happening, what the real effects of this disaster are, how many people it's gonna affect, what the long term effects look like, but also we're gonna be talking about what's the bigger picture here because we're this isn't just the first disaster. I can't remember a time in my life where I've seen our country up in flames like it is. It's like every day there's multiple fires, there's trains crashing, there's food processing plants, other kinds of chemical plants burning up. It feels like our country is under attack.
• 1:25
  And so Don also has a wide range of knowledge of communism and infiltration. And so we're gonna be talking about what the bigger picture here is as well. So before we get started, folks, make sure you're following me on social media. In most places, it's Maninamerica, And on Twitter, it's Maninamericaus. Also, every show is a podcast as well.
• 1:45
  So if you wanna listen instead of watch, just go to your favorite podcast app and search for Man in America, and you'll find me. If you really wanna make me happy, leave a five star review. Alright, folks. Let's jump into this interview. Alright, Don.
• 1:59
  Thank you so very much for joining us today. It's an it's an unfortunate topic, but I'm glad to have an expert here.
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad I'm here. I'm sorry it's under these circumstances. It's a sad thing to have an environmental disaster like that happen, but people need to know both what happened and its consequences and why it happened.
• 2:25
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. So before we dive into the specifics, can you just give us a brief overview of your training and where your knowledge is really at?
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: Sure. I served thirty five years in military service, twenty two years as an Air Force fighter pilot, followed by thirteen more years as a soldier in the Texas State Guard.
• 2:49
  Seth Holehouse: I
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: served on the, Well, you all are worth it. That's what I say when I'm thankful for my service. Served on the congressional staff for Congressman Ron Paul. I've run for office a number of times. I served as a county commissioner here in Bastrop County.
• 3:06
  Also, I've served as a county commissioner also as a firefighter for fifteen years, certified volunteer, also a fire commissioner. I ran for county judge last year, but I stay very attuned to what's going on in the community. And I stay up with emergency management because I am a certified Texas emergency manager and that is a doctorate level certification.
• 3:31
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, incredible. And so certified emergency managers, that means something like say a hurricane coming through or an oil spill in The Gulf? Or is it really anything that kind of falls under that that you'd be, you know how to deal with properly?
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: It's, it's, It means that I am certified to serve in any capacity in managing an emergency disaster. Under the Incident Command System that FEMA has outlined, That's the basis for all emergency management in United States. That would be considered expert certification.
• 4:07
  Seth Holehouse: Okay. And so with the train wreck in East Palestine here in Ohio, and the subsequent burning off of this, I guess I've got a bunch of different questions. But my first question was, was the burning necessary? Was it was it a mistake or was it this rushed or is it seems like the like, because I've seen different maps of the the particle plumes of how far, I mean, I'm seeing stuff people in Canada getting, you know, rainbow colored, you know, snow melting, you know, the chemicals there all the way up into Maine. It just seems like it turned this from a local disaster into a massive disaster.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: This is a national disaster because it has far reaching effects. When dealing with hazardous material, and I served in Texas Department of Public Safety Emergency Management Division, I forgot to mention that, as a hazardous material emergency preparedness specialist. And also as a firefighter, I gained a wealth of knowledge about how to handle things like that. Generally, when you have a tank vehicle, either a tanker truck or a railroad tanker car that has been derailed or overturned, what you want to do is contain what's in it. And you want to get it out of that containment, out of that vessel as safely as possible.
• 5:37
  Now, for an example, locally we had a jet fuel tanker overturn here. We cordoned it off. We called the trucking company. They got a team. They had their team come out.
• 5:50
  I don't remember if it was a state team or their own. And they drained the tank, they drained the jet fuel into another truck and made it safe and then they towed it off. With this situation, the content, the product is what it's called of the tanker was chlorine vinyl chloride. If you looked it up in the ERG, it's a booklet called the Emergency Response Guide. You can get it online and it is in every emergency vehicle in the state.
• 6:25
  You can look up any kind of material that's transported and see what the reaction is, what you can and can't do with it, how to be careful if you need to be careful with it. And you look at vinyl chloride and it says it can explode if heated and it's very flammable. Now if it's not leaking, in the case of this tanker, if it's not leaking, you don't want to make it leak. If it's next to a heat source like another car that's on fire, you want to suppress that fire or you want to cool the tanker cars with the product in it that's volatile. I don't know.
• 7:13
  I wasn't there. I don't know what happened. But that tanker did not explode. They drained product out into a ditch and then set it alight and then I guess it lit off after that. But it just astonished me from both a firefighting and an emergency management point of view how quickly they acted and how they did not evacuate the town and keep it evacuated.
• 7:40
  I think they said, well, you have to leave this area, but you'll be okay over here. They should have evacuated that whole area until it was absolutely clear that there was no more reaction going on, no more fire, no more fumes. The stuff that that vinyl chloride produces is highly toxic, not just from dioxins settling out but also from the gases. And one of the products of burning vinyl chloride is phosgene gas, which really is sort of the reason gas masks were invented because that was used as chemical warfare in World War I. And what it does is it attacks lung tissue, it inflames it and makes it fill with fluid so you're basically ground in your own fluid by pneumonia.
• 8:34
  And from all the things I've seen, I'm really terrified about the consequences of this. You may have noticed that some of the videos in fact, J. D. Vance, your senator, went out and looked at a stream, a creep, and he put a stick in it and moved it around and a sheen appeared on the surface. Now it's important to note this.
• 8:58
  Oil always is on the surface of water because it's lighter than water. What he did is stir it up what was on the bottom of the stream and stir it up so it would come to the surface and then you could see the sheen. That means it's heavier than water. That means it's not oil. And that means it's settled the bed of the stream, bed of the rivers, the bed of the lakes, and it'll be there for a long, long time.
• 9:26
  And that's a dioxin river that should have done that.
• 9:29
  Seth Holehouse: I'll play the video for folks so we can, know, just for the people that are watching, listening so they can see that.
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: Hey guys, so I'm here at Leslie Run and there are dead worms and dead fish all throughout this water. Something I just discovered is that if you scrape the creek bed, it's like chemical is coming out of the ground. Can you show can you come here and and let me just show this to people. I don't know you're gonna see this in the camera, but watch this. Just see that chemical pop out of the creek.
• 9:57
  This is disgusting. And the fact that we have not cleaned up the the train crash, the fact that these chemicals are still seeping in the ground is an insult to the people who live in East Palestine. Do not forget these people. We've got to keep applying pressure. That's how we're gonna fix this problem.
• 10:14
  Thank you.
• 10:15
  Seth Holehouse: It was astounding to see that. And and it's an interesting point actually is that, you know, it was coming, it wasn't just the surface, it was actually what he stirred up below that brought it up. So, and I looked up in, you know, some of the chemicals that were being, you know, carried in some of the chemicals that are produced in this process, you know, vinyl chloride, I mean, these are highly carcinogenic. I mean, look at vinyl chloride as an example. There's a huge list of rare liver cancers, lymphoma, leukemia, brain cancer.
• 10:45
  I mean, it's this is really, really bad stuff. And so how, let's just say that if they would have dealt with it properly, okay, and somehow they drained them off and transported them, how much worse did it make for them to light these on fire and to send that smoke cloud, that plume?
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: I think it was a terrible decision. Norfolk Southern, the railroad on which this derailment occurred has a terrible safety record. And they have been in interviews of employees. They said they've been cutting back, cutting back. This train was 150 cars long.
• 11:28
  That's a very, very long train. Now when that happens, when you have a train that long and if you don't have instrumentation on each of the cars, then you don't know what's going on behind you and it's a mile away from the engine and we no longer have cabooses. Remember the cabooses? They have a Copa on top and side bays. And the crews, the brakeman there, would be able to look out at the train going around curves and see if there's any smoke, any problems with cars.
• 12:01
  Because sometimes a car will run partially derailed and just kind of bounce along the ties and not jump off. I'd like to cover the actual physical malfunction, if you don't mind. The evident cause was what's called a hot box. Train cars have two trucks that the wheels are part of each of them, unless it's a specialized car, there's two axles and then two wheels on each axle. Those carry an incredibly high burden.
• 12:33
  And the axles are lubricated in a reservoir box at each end of the axle on the outside. And that nomenclature hot box comes from a long time ago at Railroad Talk. And that is when if the lubrication fails or the bearing fails, it gets hot because you have steel on steel contact, steel on steel friction. And what it's basically trying to do is weld itself together. I saw videos this morning of surveillance videos near the railroad that showed a car going by with sparks and flames coming out of the right rear truck on the right side.
• 13:13
  The showering is going down the tracks. Now no one saw it or no one reported it. There was supposedly two infrared heat sensors along that route. One was, I think, 25 miles from East Palestine and another one closer. Evidently, either it malfunctioned or it was ignored, the first one, because the sparks were visible for many, many miles before the actual derailment happened.
• 13:42
  And the end result is the wheels come off. It just the truck disassembles and then everything behind it comes off the wheels. So Norfolk Southern has a lot answer to. Now speaking about Norfolk Southern, the hauler is responsible for emergency management for hazardous material spills that they cause. So on this case, Norfolk Seldin is responsible for that.
• 14:16
  Now the ones who ordered that set on fire. The EPA is now saying, Oh no, we couldn't do anything because that's their responsibility. Then if that's the case, why do we have the Environmental Protection Agency if they're telling all of us what we can do, they don't want us to use gas stoves, but it's okay for a railroad company to burn extremely toxic chemicals without any kind of federal oversight. It's insane.
• 14:48
  Seth Holehouse: It absolutely is. Yeah, especially like they have the they have the ability to say, Well, you can't drive this car. You've got, you can say California saying, Oh, we're gonna ban gas powered cars and only use battery and they have all this control, right, especially at the federal level. But then to say, Well, sorry, you know, this, this, you know, private company can do whatever they want to. That just opens up a whole can of worms.
• 15:11
  And so, with, so, okay, so as far as I understand this, there's really there's two kind of negative byproducts of this process. One is the burning, which is releasing chemicals into the air, and the other is just this substance seeping into the ground, into the water, into the streams. And you told me before we started recording that Cincinnati is now no longer taking water for their city water out of the Ohio River, right? So how, like, what is the effect this is going to have on the Ohio River Basin and really, I mean, because it flows into Mississippi. So how serious is that?
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: It is incredibly serious. The entire Ohio River Valley is likely contaminated with these toxic materials. And the material, dioxins they're called dioxins, it's one of the byproducts. Dioxins are so, as you mentioned in the pre show, they're so toxic that a thousandth of a grain of salt is the size material. That small size is the maximum exposure or ingestion of dioxin for a lifetime for a human.
• 16:33
  I don't even think that's safe. But that's a small amount. Now these people have been breathing this precipitate and the gases from that fire for a wide margin, for a wide area. Keep in mind this went up in a cloud and when it goes up in a cloud it travels with the wind. It goes great distances.
• 16:57
  If it condenses and turns into rain, it enters the ground. And people who have shallow wells eventually will get this precipitated toxin in their drinking water. It's a terrible thing. And it carries all over. I don't know the wind plume where the wind plume took that.
• 17:20
  One of the primary things we would do on a hazmat fire like that is know which way the wind is blowing, how strong it's blowing, and do an evacuation. It's dealing with a forest fire like we had in Bastrop in 2011. You get people out of the way of the fire, get people out of the way of the hazardous gases and material. And that was botched. Governor DeWine actually joked about it, made light of it at a press conference.
• 17:48
  Tucker Carlson had that on his show a few nights ago. I was appalled at that. I mean, it's so cavalier. The attitude of the governor and evidently the people handling this from Norfolk Southern and if there were state officials involved was cavalier and arrogant. And the result was they made it easy for Norfolk Southern to clear the roadbed and put new tracks down so they could haul more stuff.
• 18:16
  And that question, if they did it for that reason, that must be addressed and it should be addressed in Congress.
• 18:26
  Seth Holehouse: How many so two questions. First off is, what does what do the long term effects look like? Obviously, this isn't, you know, it's not nerve gas where people breathe in and they fall over and they die within a couple of days, right? So what is the, you know, if someone has their drinking water poisoned by this, or if they're in an area where they had, you know, say they're 30 miles down downwind, and they had that wind blowing through there. What are the long term effects of that?
• 18:56
  And then second question is how many people do you think could be possibly affected by this single incident?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Nerve gas, I think it's called VX for my military training, is a quick kill. With very small amounts, it would make you sick for a while. This kind of toxin, if you're very close, you'll have immediate effects. And the effects that have been reported are skin rash, breathing, coughing, coughing up blood, headaches, just general illness. The toxicity of this has a half life of anywhere from fifty to five hundred years.
• 19:42
  And once it's in place, I don't know of a means to chemically neutralize it. So it has the potential to affect millions of people, millions of acres of land and untold numbers of livestock. You may have the old thing about a canary in a coal mine. Canaries were taken into coal mines before ventilation was really made efficient. And the reason is that when there was methane gas, the canary would fall off the perch dead.
• 20:21
  And that was a warning because birds have a high metabolism and if something deprives them of oxygen, it's over for them. And that was a warning to get out. The day after that, or actually the night of that happening, people's chickens started dying the same day. And they still are. And now more and more animals are being found dead.
• 20:46
  But the birds were the first ones, chickens and ducks, and it'll get worse. And they also are there are birds that they're finding more and more dead birds in the plume area that there's no, there's no, I mean, it's not logical, they just happen to die.
• 21:07
  Seth Holehouse: What you, what do you recommend people do? Let's say that so for me, for instance, we're about a little over a hundred miles about two hours, but we're, you know, upwind. So we're not downwind, but we're downstream, I guess you could say some of the river systems near us do come from that area. We've got a deep well, 200 foot well we just dug recently. But for people that are, you know, say in, I think it's Pittsburgh or other areas where they may be a hundred miles downwind, where it's certainly, you know, you know, kind of cross those areas, or people that are living within 30 miles or so, what would your, what would your advice to them be?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there are test kits to determine the presence of dioxins. I will research that. But if there are, that's what they should do. They should also contact their local sheriff's department or their police department if they're in the municipality. Their county government asks them what they're doing about this, They should be on top of it.
• 22:14
  They should be seeking ways of determining contamination levels. That's critical. They have to know if there actually is dioxin in their area or the other byproducts of the combustion of that material. But there's a lesson here too. Be able to bug out if you need to.
• 22:36
  Have a bug out bag. Have a bag or bags of the family, have things prepared that you need to get out of town and get as far away as you can safely, as far away from the hazard as necessary. And that means clothing, some non perishable food, tools, flashlights, first aid weapons if you can carry them to protect yourself. You have to
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: be able to move out of
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the way or something like that. Being stuck in a place like that and not being able to go anywhere is not a good situation.
• 23:10
  Seth Holehouse: No, it really isn't. And I think there's a lot of people, as I mentioned, I first saw you in Mike Adams, and he's someone that's been talking about prepping for as long as I can remember. And it's something that I talk about as well. And this is the this is the reality of it, right? Whether it's, you know, having some storeable food or some MRE set aside or having a bug out bag or, you know, even, you know, going through the disaster plan with your family.
• 23:34
  Like, if this happens, here's what we do. Here's where we meet, etcetera. I mean, it's it's it's important and there's been a lot of other fires and factories burning down, whether it's food processing processing plants or chemicals, some big fires in in Florida. I mean, it just, you know, it seems like there's something bigger happening. I I can't remember in my life a time where I've looked around and seen so much of our country just really in flames.
• 24:04
  It's very strange. I mean, you noticed that as well?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Food processing plants having airplanes flying into them, poultry farm, egg farms with a hundred thousand chickens go up in flames. No, there's too many things happening that aren't right. Absolutely. Food supply, I mean, as military officer, strategy wise, if you want to, you have to find weaknesses of your enemy. If we have an enemy, we have enemies.
• 24:42
  We have China as our chief competitor now and they hate America. They want us to be subjugated or destroyed. They don't care either way. So here I wrote a newspaper column for eight or nine years and four or five years ago I wrote a column about how to kill Americans. And it was just have China import fentanyl and precursor drugs to fentanyl and make it and send it out here to kill kids.
• 25:14
  And guess what's happening? Thousands of Americans are dying from that. We have an open border. We are unsecure. And now we have all these disasters with our food.
• 25:26
  It's really like this latest one in Ohio and the farms and the processing plants, that's an attack on our food supply. There's no question about it. If we have a lack of diesel fuel, folks everything moves with diesel fuel, everything. And if that stops, if that shut off, we'll be in very, very tough situations. But one thing I wanted to mention about bugging out and preparation for your family: you can be as prepared as you think you are.
• 26:00
  If you don't practice, you're not ready. You have to practice. It's like a fire drill. Okay, we've got fifteen minutes. We're doing a bug out drill.
• 26:09
  And everybody gets their stuff, gets in the car and uses stopwatch and whoever's late, you make corrective action so that they can fix that and not have it happen again.
• 26:21
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, that's a really good point as well. So this is, you know, it's hard to know for sure. But are there any signs with this particular disaster that indicate some sort of malicious intent, whether it's a, you know, a foreign actor or, you know, something, you know, a terrorist cell or because this is I mean, look, if if you're ISIS and you want to harm America, and this is the golden opportunity. This is an amazing thing to do. You know, this is they would dream about being able to do something like this.
• 26:53
  And so are there any indicators that you've seen in in looking at this that show that there could be some malicious intent?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: The fact that the hotbox was present for over 20 miles, in other words, it was sparking and dropping sparks and flaming, is obviously very hot, for over 20 miles and not detected and not reacted on. I'm sure people saw it and maybe called in and called 911 if the emergency operations center discarded it. It needs to be checked out to see if anything was reported. But the fact that it did pass an infrared heat sensor whose sole purpose in life is to detect hot boxes, That's kind of a warning to me. Now if it didn't detect it, that's one thing.
• 27:43
  If it was damaged, if it was disconnected or if it was ignored, which was it? We need to know that. Also, this train did not have emergency ECP brakes. That's a type of emergency brake. It didn't have that.
• 27:58
  It had air brakes. And as I understand it, they failed. When you disconnect the hoses that run between the train cars, it should automatically apply the brakes. That didn't happen and everything just kept going. In other words, when it derailed, the cars behind the derailment just kept piling up.
• 28:19
  There's nothing to stop them. So that has to be researched. The NTSB, the National Transportation Safety Board, will investigate this accident. But now it's getting to the point where who do you trust anymore?
• 28:33
  Seth Holehouse: I know.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: We've been lied to so much about so many things, primarily about COVID and the so called vaccine, which I call an experimental drug. We've been lied to so much about it, it's hard to trust anything the government says now. So I've been involved in government for a long time. I understand how it works, I understand how Congress works, and here in the local government I'm getting the word out and making sure that people understand what to do in case of an emergency.
• 29:06
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, I mean it does. If you take a step back and you look at all these things together, it does feel like we're attack, but also being softened up for something. Know, I've been studying China for quite some time and really understand the level of threat that's at our door with them. And, you know, I there's part of my mind that goes to the fact of thinking, gosh, is this are they just getting ready? Are they just working on weakening our infrastructure and, you know, weakening the core things that we need, you know, food supply, etcetera.
• 29:41
  Is that all part of it so they can, you know, when they do want to come in that we're so scrambled up and so weak and just a mess that it's gonna be like, you know, the movies where there's the Viking camp and they're all drunk and they've all kind of fallen asleep and they're everywhere. And the enemy force is waiting for the opportune moment when they're just not expecting it and they're at their worst to come in and strike.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Well, everyone, military or not, should read a book called On War by the Chinese warlord Sheng Shu. Read it. You'll understand what's going on because some of the tenets in that is if you are weak, appear strong to your enemy. If you're strong, appear weak to your enemy. That's really logical.
• 30:36
  And there are other things too, is that you use your enemy's strengths against them. In the case of The United States, we have, and I think we have a decaying society, we have a political movement in this country to destroy the authority of local police in the hopes of establishing a national police force like, oh, what was it? What was it? Oh, 1930s Germany. That's what it was.
• 31:07
  The brown shirts had created all kinds of mayhem. At the same time, the government did they also defiance the police. They didn't have city police, and they had basically like county police or state police in Germany until the people said, please help us. And that was when Hitler got into power and he established the national police force known as the Gestapo. And it follows the same pattern.
• 31:43
  If you want to see the pattern of the communists are doing or what this political movement in The United States is passing, digressing slightly from hazardous material other than for your mind, is you read Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Antonio Gramsci, the Italian communist, and Sololinsky. And then you can get in touch with some of the new guys. But Sololinsky codified that in The United States, how to break it down. The whole point is what's going on, if this is a movement, if this is coordinated, this is to weaken The United States so that it can be taken over either internally or externally. Probably both, considering how many politicians have benefited from Chinese money.
• 32:27
  And we're just to dip the bomb of that. But getting back to the hazardous material, if you are in the plume of that, and I'm going to reiterate this, contact your local government and ask them if they have testing kits for toxicity in their area. That's the first thing you should do. And then whatever comes up later, you know, make your decisions on how you want to handle it. Because that's the point we're at right now.
• 32:56
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, I would also tell people, and this is not legal advice, but I would be very wary of signing anything or taking some money. You know, they say, here's a thousand dollars, I saw reports of that happening, they're going around, people are getting payments. What you're doing is you're signing away your ability to go after this company, right? Because these have been, if this gets, you know, justice, you know, kind of comes to the situation, we're talking billion, you know, multi billion dollar, you know, class action lawsuit potentially. I mean, this is such a significant, you know, lawsuit, You know, it could be millions of people that are having their that develop cancer or who knows what.
• 33:37
  And so just, you know, just, you know, for folks that are watching and say, don't again, I'm not a lawyer, but if it was me, I would not sign anything they put in front of me.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: If you take money in settlement with damages that you incur or even have not incurred, you're basically waiving your rights to sue because that is what you're going to sign. You're going to sign a waiver accepting money. And I would not advise doing that unless you have your own legal counsel and have them look at it because people are in a rush. They may
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: be out of money. They may be
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: out of a job now, too. They may be having to leave their homes. So be very wary of that. That's a very good point. I'm glad you brought that up.
• 34:19
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Well, Don, thank you for taking the time to speak with us today. And it's unfortunate, but there's been a lot of misinformation about this. And I think in a lot of ways, the mainstream media has ignored a lot of this information. So these kinds of interviews are really important.
• 34:35
  And so for the folks that are watching or listening, you please share this with your friends or family because we have to let more people understand the seriousness of this. Because this is, you know, this this could be looked back on in the past, we look forward and say, look, this is a Chernobyl level event. Like, I think that it could have those ramifications.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: This isn't a plug, but if you want to find out more, there is an app called NFPA 2020. This is the book that's published every four years. It's coming out again in 2024. But you get the app and everything in the book itself, the physical book, is in the app. I just updated mine today.
• 35:20
  And that's where I found the characteristics of vinyl chloride. And you can do a search and find it exactly right. You see all those little placards on the sides of vehicles, the hazmat placards. You can drive by a vehicle, go look in your app and know exactly what's in it. So thank you for the opportunity to present to your audience.
• 35:40
  I really appreciate it. I'll stay on top of this and I'll update you with anything I can do.
• 35:44
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you so much. Thank you. Alright, folks. In closing, I have one final message for you and that is make sure that you are prepared. Look, don't want to be a fear monger, but the reality is, is that there are a lot of very strange things happening, just like we just talked about in this interview.
• 36:02
  And unfortunately, I think that we could see things get pretty bad in this country. And we don't want to be in a situation where we're not prepared for that. One of the biggest things you need be prepared with is your food supply. And ask yourself, if you could no longer go to the grocery store right now to buy food because of diesel running out or an EMP or some sort of attack, how long would your family last? How long would you go for?
• 36:23
  Would it be a month, two months, three months? My personal recommendation is at least three months worth of food should be set aside, if not six months or even a year is much better. And look, if you have access, then you can help your neighbors in time of need. What a great thing to do. But there's a lot of companies that are selling the storable food and a lot of them what they're doing is they're trying to jam as much calories as they can to make it cheaper for you.
• 36:47
  So they're gonna be filled with sugary drinks and all kinds of things that aren't gonna be good for you. And that's why I'm so pleased to recommend Heaven's Harvest for your storable food. So let me pull this up for you folks. So this is Heaven's Harvest, which is heavensharvest.com. They have extremely high quality storable food.
• 37:05
  You can get everything from like a meat package to fruits and vegetables. It lasts up to twenty five years. So this is something you buy, you set it aside, you put it in the basement somewhere, you forget about it. Hopefully, you don't have to use it, but if worse comes to worse and you have to use it, it's there for you. They also sell very good quality heirloom seeds, so that way if you have to, you can grow your own food to help supplement your eating.
• 37:31
  And so that way, you're not just living off your stored food. So please go today to heavensharvest.com. And you're also gonna save 15% when you use the promo code Seth. That's s e t h, promo code Seth at heavens harvest dot com. Folks, we don't wanna have something bad happen and not be prepared for it.
• 37:52
  And now is the time.