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DIDDY 30 HOUR 'FORCED SEX MARATHONS' SHAQUILLE, KOBE, MICHAEL JORDAN FETISH · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Dirty Ditty demands thirty straight hours of forced sex marathons
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  Speaker 2: with no sleep. This as we learn Seawan Comb's fetishizes
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  Speaker 2: the NBA greats Shaquille Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant as Dirty
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  Speaker 2: Ditty's defense team attacks the assault victim on the stand
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  Speaker 2: with a designer handbag. Dirty Ditty, what the cook? A
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  Speaker 2: cook by curious, ashamed to have sex with men? This,
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  Speaker 2: according to is X and it is all coming out
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  Speaker 2: on the stand.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grece. This is Crime Stories and I want
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  Speaker 1: to thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: Objection myrari nd he needed to see that Willie Free.
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  Speaker 4: We've heard some bombshells out of the shining.
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  Speaker 1: He beat her the hell in back. He smacks her
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  Speaker 1: in the face again.
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  Speaker 5: Objection my rand That alleged sex assault victim on the
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  Speaker 5: stand undergoing intense cross examination.
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  Speaker 1: Through out the day.
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  Speaker 2: Joining us at the courthouse as the Monahan Federal Courthouse
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  Speaker 2: in downtown Manhattan. Special guest Tisa Tails joining us pop
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  Speaker 2: culture investigator and host Autisa Tales on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: How did she hold up under.
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  Speaker 2: Cross and what does a five thousand dollars Buttega designer bag.
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  Speaker 1: How to do with anything.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, we were in the court and we were wondering
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  Speaker 3: the same thing. But our little sweet bunny rabbit looks
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  Speaker 3: like she sharpened her shink today. And she pushed back
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  Speaker 3: on and one of the more humiliating things for Diddy's
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  Speaker 3: defense team. It started off why she was just going
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  Speaker 3: through mundane questioning have you had this?
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  Speaker 4: Have you had that?
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  Speaker 3: She mentioned you seem to be mad that he took
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  Speaker 3: somebody shopping in Chanelle. She literally said yeah, because all
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  Speaker 3: these other girls were, you know, being sewn off.
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  Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: The defence team thought they could sharpen and go in
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  Speaker 3: and they thought they could actually break her, maybe get
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  Speaker 3: her to feel a little bit ashamed or show how.
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  Speaker 4: Petty she was. And the defense team went on this.
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  Speaker 3: Really odd way of questioning, well, you got a vancle bracelet,
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  Speaker 3: and she said, okay, I did.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I was a little bunny rabbit. She has
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  Speaker 4: a voice like sunshine. Yes I did. Then they asked her,
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  Speaker 4: and you got a book? Taga bag? How much was
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  Speaker 4: a be taga bag calls?
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  Speaker 3: Now, this is a defense attorney and head to toe Chanel,
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  Speaker 3: our little bunny Rabbit sharpened her shank and said, you
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  Speaker 3: have one.
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  Speaker 4: Don't you to push it back? Because again the line
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  Speaker 4: of questioning was so insulting. After she just finished a
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  Speaker 4: day ago.
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  Speaker 3: Telling us how she was an unwilling participant in a
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  Speaker 3: cracked out version of the Shining, they're now trying to
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  Speaker 3: say that somehow a bag and a bracelet somehow made
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  Speaker 3: up for everything.
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  Speaker 4: But however, the.
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  Speaker 3: Defense was a little bit taken aback. She said, well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how much is it fifteen hundred or.
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  Speaker 4: Five thousand, like how much is a botaga bag worth?
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  Speaker 3: And our little bunny rapit said how much is my
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  Speaker 3: body worth? And the whole courtroom was just sitting there
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  Speaker 3: and shock because it was such a beautiful thing to
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  Speaker 3: see that a victim, somebody that Diddy had made full
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  Speaker 3: small broken both mentally and literally physically. Finally, in that moment,
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  Speaker 3: why did he is sitting there looking like she's smirking
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  Speaker 3: at her almost was able to hold her own against
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  Speaker 3: the defense team and pushed back and push the narrative
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  Speaker 3: that my body's worth more, I'm worth more. So it
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  Speaker 3: was a powerful moment in the court.
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  Speaker 2: When you said, Sean Combs aka Diddy, is smirking in
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom. Could you demonstrate that, because that's not a
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  Speaker 2: good look, even if he thinks he's winning, even if
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  Speaker 2: a couple of the jurors thinks he's winning.
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  Speaker 1: For him to smirk, that could backfire. Show me what
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  Speaker 1: he's doing.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So when I say smirk, okay, this is the
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  Speaker 4: best way I could use to describe it. But let
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  Speaker 4: me show you.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, whatever, there are certain witnesses on to me, it
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  Speaker 3: almost like he's trying to get into the witness's head.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Now, the smirk isn't something.
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  Speaker 3: Like h like a marble villain like they've been accusing
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  Speaker 3: him of being. It's something more like his posture gets
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  Speaker 3: almost like he owns the place.
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  Speaker 4: He kind of slouches just to the side a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: His head's kind of like cocked just a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: and he's looking at them with a posture like are
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  Speaker 3: you kidding me?
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  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: Now he has wised up, doesn't look like he's playing
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  Speaker 3: to the jury anymore. But when it comes to the witnesses,
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  Speaker 3: we saw this with Jane, we saw this with Mia,
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  Speaker 3: we saw this with Cassie, we saw this wa Bona
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  Speaker 3: and everybody else, he literally still has his attitude, like
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  Speaker 3: he runs the room, and he's literally just looking at
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  Speaker 3: them like are you.
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  Speaker 4: Kidding me again?
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  Speaker 3: I would think that if I was on trial like
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  Speaker 3: that and people were lying on me, I would have
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  Speaker 3: right his anger. I would just just anything, or even
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  Speaker 3: just have a a platonic face and body language where
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  Speaker 3: nothing can be read in So the fact that he's
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  Speaker 3: almost imperceptibly kind of letting them know that he still
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  Speaker 3: runs the room, he still runs the place, it says
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  Speaker 3: something to me about where he is and whether he's
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  Speaker 3: truly repentant.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel.
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  Speaker 2: But I've gotten to go right now, straight to Rob
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  Speaker 2: Sheeter joining us PR guru FORO Sean comes for years
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  Speaker 2: no longer star of Naughty but Nice podcast which is amazing,
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  Speaker 2: and you can find him at Rob Sheeter substack and
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  Speaker 2: that shooter shut er Rob the smirking. It actually gave
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  Speaker 2: me a flashback they Scott Peterson double murder trial where
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  Speaker 2: I would sit there and just watch Scott Peterson stride
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  Speaker 2: into the courtroom and my immediate reaction. Since I got
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  Speaker 2: cut from the girls basketball team and became a cheerleader
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  Speaker 2: as a back up, I would watch the football team
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  Speaker 2: come onto the field and then be coming out all
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  Speaker 2: puffed up like that, but they're thrown back. And I
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  Speaker 2: would watch him walk in like that every day, like
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  Speaker 2: he was totally the cock of the walk right, and
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  Speaker 2: everyone else started watching him, or maybe they were before me,
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  Speaker 2: and we would just watch him walk in. And that
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  Speaker 2: is what I think she's trying to say. It's an attitude.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bad look in front of a jury. But
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  Speaker 2: I want to hear your take on that. I can
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  Speaker 2: just see Sean Combs sweeping into a fancy restaurant or
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  Speaker 2: some other venue. I got to hear the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, first of all, NC, I've seen that look from Puff.
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  Speaker 6: I know that look. I've seen it. I think we
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  Speaker 6: did a really really great job explaining it. He looks
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  Speaker 6: down his nose, he cocks his head back, and he
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  Speaker 6: looks down his nose as if he is the king
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  Speaker 6: of the world. It's a look of arrogance, it's a
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  Speaker 6: look of dominant and it's a look that comes to
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  Speaker 6: him very very easily. And that's the reason, Nancy, that
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  Speaker 6: he's having trouble turning it off shore. And Puffy is
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  Speaker 6: a very smart person. He at the moment is acting
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  Speaker 6: like an idiot. I think that's his natural look.
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  Speaker 4: I thought he.
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  Speaker 6: Would be smart enough, a good enough actor to hide it. However,
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  Speaker 6: that appears not to be the case.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I guess too.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall a psychoanalyst joining us out of la
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  Speaker 2: she has You can see her now on Peacock. She
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  Speaker 2: wrote an incredible book, deal Breaker, on Amazon, and you
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  Speaker 2: can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany King of the World. Okay, what's a cook?
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  Speaker 7: A cook is somebody who wants to see his wife
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  Speaker 7: or partner having sex with other men. The fetishized fantasy
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  Speaker 7: that elicits arousal is the idea that the woman is
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  Speaker 7: cheating on him while he's away, And according to Jane,
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  Speaker 7: one of the sexual fantasies that he wanted to relive
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  Speaker 7: with her was while he was on his private jet,
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  Speaker 7: she was asking one of the male escorts to come
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  Speaker 7: in and have.
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  Speaker 1: Sex with her. So that's called cuckholding.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you're saying, doctor Bethany, a cook ck wants to
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  Speaker 2: watch their partner have sex with somebody else. Why would
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  Speaker 2: you want that? Because you know, my marriage motto is
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  Speaker 2: open marriage, open casket.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't get it. Explain that desire to me, well,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a couple aspects.
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  Speaker 7: One we see with people who have sex addiction and
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  Speaker 7: drug addiction is an impaired reward system where they need
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  Speaker 7: to push the envelope more and more to gain sexual arousal.
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  Speaker 7: But the other is that men who want to be
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  Speaker 7: cuck holded are often by curious and they have fantasies
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  Speaker 7: of having sex with other men, but they're too inhibited
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  Speaker 7: or for whatever reason, they're not going to carry it out,
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  Speaker 7: so they would rather watch their wife or partner have
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  Speaker 7: sex with other men so they can incorporate same sex
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  Speaker 7: attraction and arousal into a heterosexual relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I think I understand what you're saying, doctor Bethany Listen.
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  Speaker 8: Jane says the hotel nights often involved cheating roleplay with
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  Speaker 8: Combs and the entertainer. Colmbs expected her to pretend he
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  Speaker 8: was away on a trip and she was sneaking the
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  Speaker 8: entertainer into her home behind his back. This roleplay would
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  Speaker 8: begin over digital communications when booking a hotel night with
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  Speaker 8: an entertainer familiar to them, with Combs.
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  Speaker 1: Directing her to ask for explicit.
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  Speaker 8: Videos and images from the entertainer and respond with flirting
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  Speaker 8: messages like I can't wait to get you alone, Jane says.
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  Speaker 8: After the entertainer left, Colmbs liked to watch his recordings
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  Speaker 8: of the hotel night while they had sex for a replay.
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  Speaker 2: Straight back out to Tisa Tale standing by at the courthouse,
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  Speaker 2: pop culture investigator and star off Tasa Tails.
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  Speaker 1: On YouTube Tisa Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They would play back the video of the hotel night
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  Speaker 2: aka free cough aka sex session, rape torment like a
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  Speaker 2: football game, like a replay, like.
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  Speaker 3: The worst Netflix until in the world it gets.
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  Speaker 4: Deeper than that.
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  Speaker 3: He would literally mirror his phone onto the television screen,
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  Speaker 3: so she was forced to do that. She was doing
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  Speaker 3: everything she could to get out of the next free call,
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  Speaker 3: and she suddenly saw him texting an escort.
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  Speaker 4: Offer her phone, Hey, why don't you call one.
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  Speaker 3: What they described in court was something that again, I
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  Speaker 3: get the cold cold, but then I wouldn't I researched it.
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  Speaker 3: I said, Okay, but I don't see crackhead in the
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  Speaker 3: definition of cold colds.
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  Speaker 4: I don't see grain gums. I don't see.
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  Speaker 3: Dressed as a burker from the neck up and deck
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  Speaker 3: up from the neck down.
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  Speaker 4: I don't see that in a definition of a cold cold.
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  Speaker 4: The defense is trying to run with this. They want
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  Speaker 4: to say that's all it was.
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  Speaker 3: But again, hold, I never thought I would say this,
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  Speaker 3: But I think that Sean Diddy Colms gave cut Holding
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  Speaker 3: a bad name, if that's possible to do. But we
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  Speaker 3: were shocked in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me.
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  Speaker 2: Understand the whole by curious claim by the girlfriend on
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  Speaker 2: the stand, and we're talking about Jane, not her real name.
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  Speaker 2: Now she has testimony that is intrinsic to her, that
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  Speaker 2: is unique from the other witnesses testimony. However, I believe
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  Speaker 2: that she and others such as Mia are there largely
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  Speaker 2: to buttress or corroborate Cassie Venturira, the state star witness.
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  Speaker 2: The Jane testimony is taking on a life of its own.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me about the bisexual claim.
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  Speaker 3: So the bisexual claim, it's very interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, she didn't know what was going on.
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  Speaker 3: Keep in mind, we're still in the early parts of
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  Speaker 3: this Romeo.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna so her this Romeo situation.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, he's introducing her into this life of darkness. So
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  Speaker 3: he's starting off slow. So she's trying to make sense
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  Speaker 3: of what's going on? Why does he want all these
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  Speaker 3: disgusting things? And they even played audio where you can
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  Speaker 3: see her literally it was so embarrassing and humiliating for Diddy,
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  Speaker 3: where you can clearly see this woman is doing everything
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  Speaker 3: she can to get out of the next free goll Again,
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  Speaker 3: it hasn't descended into violence and pure debauchery, but so she's.
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  Speaker 4: Googling what's going on? Why does he like to see
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  Speaker 4: other men?
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  Speaker 3: Why does he stand in the corner and diddle with himself?
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  Speaker 4: What is going on?
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  Speaker 3: So that's when she said, I think he's by curious. However,
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  Speaker 3: she did say this was early on. Again, the defense
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  Speaker 3: really didn't know what to do with her because they
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  Speaker 3: thought they could get her on the stand and bully
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  Speaker 3: her around, but she started literally saying, he's a cuck hole,
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  Speaker 3: he's by, he has gray teeth, shaking hands, he looks
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  Speaker 3: like a crackhead.
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  Speaker 4: And they really didn't know what to do with that.
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  Speaker 3: And they just focus on both Tega bags and even
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  Speaker 3: that kind of blue up in their face.
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  Speaker 4: So it was puzzling. But again the buye was the
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  Speaker 4: beginning to Sidney.
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  Speaker 2: Sun was joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter Sydney. This
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  Speaker 2: fits in hand in hand with many of the civil
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  Speaker 2: claims filed by male alleged victims.
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  Speaker 9: Explain well, Nancy, nearly half of the civil lawsuits filed
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  Speaker 9: against Sean Colmes have come from men. And we heard
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  Speaker 9: this at the very beginning. Just after Cassie Ventura. Robbie Jones,
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  Speaker 9: the music producer, was the next person to file a
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  Speaker 9: very explosive lawsuit and he claims that Shawan Colmes was
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  Speaker 9: bisexual and was in our relationships with many male black celebrity.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I don't care. I don't care who
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  Speaker 1: sleeps with who as long as it's not my husband.
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  Speaker 2: It's not my business until it becomes a felony.
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  Speaker 1: Up until then, don't care.
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  Speaker 2: But to Rob Shooter joining me former are your fortune comes?
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  Speaker 2: How will they buy curious allegation play in the rap world?
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  Speaker 1: Not well at all.
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  Speaker 6: This is still one area of the music business, of
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  Speaker 6: the entertainment business, that has been very, very slow to
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  Speaker 6: embrace LGPTQ people. It has been a problem. I've been
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  Speaker 6: to several big events where it really is, the homophobia
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  Speaker 6: is there. It's tried to be sort of kept under wraps,
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  Speaker 6: but fans don't like it. If you listen to rap music,
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  Speaker 6: particularly rap music that's on the charts and the most
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  Speaker 6: successful rap music, it is not unusual to find a misogynistic,
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  Speaker 6: a homophobic lyric thrown around as if it is just
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  Speaker 6: everyday talk. So this will not go over well. And
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  Speaker 6: this is probably one of the reasons that if Diddy
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  Speaker 6: is indeed bisexual, it's something that he will definitely want
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  Speaker 6: to keep hush hush under the covers.
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  Speaker 2: Day twenty one in the courthouse had standing by outside
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  Speaker 2: the Mona Hound Building is Tisa tells Tisa, thank you
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  Speaker 2: for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: I want to quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Go to Eric Fattus, joining me, jumping off something Tisa
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  Speaker 2: has just reported. Eric Fattus is a veteran trial lawyer,
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  Speaker 2: TV legal analyst founding partner Varner Fattest Elite Legal.
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  Speaker 1: Eric.
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  Speaker 2: This also brings back another daymare flashback of Oorenthal James Simpson.
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  Speaker 1: While all this horrible.
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  Speaker 2: Testimony is coming in and they put up a picture
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  Speaker 2: of Nicole Brown with her face just swollen and black
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  Speaker 2: on one side, everybody's looking at him.
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  Speaker 1: You know what he's doing. He's Professor Simpson taking notes.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, all the notes said I did it? How
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  Speaker 1: do I get out of this?
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  Speaker 2: But what can you do when you're hearing about being
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  Speaker 2: a cook and you're hearing about being naked from the
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  Speaker 2: neck down in a burka from the neck up and
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  Speaker 2: the gray gums and blood? What can he do besides
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  Speaker 2: take notes and squint at a screen.
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  Speaker 10: That's the thing. I mean, he's been sitting in this
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  Speaker 10: child hearing on godly accusations against him, and hey.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the oldest texts.
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  Speaker 10: Well is that.
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  Speaker 2: Why is he in the courtroom? Why is his ass
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  Speaker 2: and a sling that's on him? He finds himself in
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom. It's like he woke up like Alice in
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  Speaker 2: Wonderland and went where am I?
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  Speaker 1: That's not what went down? Man?
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  Speaker 10: Is he in the courtroom because there's substantial evidence against him?
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  Speaker 10: Or is this the government trying to assassinate his character
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  Speaker 10: because they don't have the goods to bring it. Look,
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  Speaker 10: they're talking about cuck cold and gray teeth, his body
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  Speaker 10: role play by curious. All of that seems like inflammatory
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  Speaker 10: tactics that are trying to compensate for a possible lack
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  Speaker 10: of actual evidence. And so yeah, they can assassinate his
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  Speaker 10: character all he wants, But at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 10: You know, we know how the OJ trial ended up,
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  Speaker 10: and this one could be going in that direction.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, you sit back and keep on
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  Speaker 2: saying that. Just live in your dream land. Because Tasa
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  Speaker 2: Tail's joining us. I'm about to go to Shannon Henry
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  Speaker 2: joining us, who fights sex assaults and sex trafficking on
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  Speaker 2: girls and women.
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  Speaker 1: Tasa Tales, could you refresh Eric.
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  Speaker 2: Fattis's recollection about the beatings that Jane took.
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  Speaker 1: The four doors that were torn.
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  Speaker 2: Down bare handed by Shawn Come so he could get
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  Speaker 2: at her to beat her.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, But since I want to say, if there's anybody
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  Speaker 3: trying to assassinate the character, this came out when did.
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  Speaker 4: He stuff fence team, So maybe he needs to look
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  Speaker 4: to see that if somebody's a paid.
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  Speaker 3: Assassin on his own defense team, because they did a
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  Speaker 3: good job of putting their client's character the dirt. But again,
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  Speaker 3: this is coming on the heels of him being literally
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: reenacting the shining kicking through doors, her running through the house,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: locking doors, kicking through heavy wooden doors, literally putting her
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: up in a choke hole, or her little toes are
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: dangling off her fleeing in a dark California neighborhood, barefoot,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: hiding for two hours outside of her house, coming back
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: being mercilessly beating him, humiliating her by calling the woman
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: that he's seeing while she hears all this happening, then
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: going after.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: She is black and blue with knots holl over her head.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: She goes into the shower to kind of disassociate, and
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: he snacks her three times and knocks her to the
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: ground with the shower, then demands she cover up those bruises,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: ice the two golf ball Sills knocks on her heads
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: and ice and literally cover up her bruises, and she
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: is forced to take this effing pill because she's not
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: going to ruin his fan night. Drugs are force down
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: her throat, and then she is forced to perform a
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: freak golf If you think that Greg gums in any
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: way overshadows the horror movie we heard yesterday, I don't
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: know what to say, but I think Diddy should hire
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: you on his team to make him feel good, because
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: he needs someone to sit with him in his land
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: of delusion, you.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Know, joining me.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Shannon Henry, President, Founder SASS Surviving Assault Standing Strong is
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: a nonprofit which means a lot to me. She's not
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: in it for the money, obviously, trying to eradicate abuse,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: sex assault, and trafficking on women and girls. People don't
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: get it. It's not their fault.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: They shouldn't get it, Shannon Henry.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Why should regular people that are not in the world
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: of crime like we are, know about what the battered
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: women's syndrome is about, what sex traffic victims endear, why.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: They stay in it.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Could you school Eric Faddest he needs it badly?
• 20:01
  Speaker 11: Of course, Nancy. I think you know, we do a
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: disservice to people in a way that they don't understand
• 20:08
  Speaker 11: that human trafficking is sexual and physical violence on top
• 20:12
  Speaker 11: of stalking on steroids, and the women that endure it
• 20:16
  Speaker 11: have lives that are much shorter than women who don't. So,
• 20:19
  Speaker 11: of course the general public doesn't understand this. They don't
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: know how it all plays out, but we do. And
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: let's start with the obvious.
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: When you take.
• 20:28
  Speaker 11: Women and you beat them, and you get them high,
• 20:31
  Speaker 11: and you coerce them into having sex.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, look at your monitor, Shannon.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: That is a knife one of the alleged victims.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Put in her door because she is so afraid of
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Sean comes. That's Cassie Ventira had a knife.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And the door.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Well, you hear about people afraid and they sleep with
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a knife or gun under their pillow. She kept a
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: knife by the door, and I find that interesting. Shannon
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Henry after the door testimony from Jane not her real name,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that Shawn Combs beat down four doors and the jury
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: saw pictures and maybe even video of that in the courtroom.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Then they look over at Sean Combs. What could you explain?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Why is there a knife being kept in the door.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Explain that to fattest.
• 21:35
  Speaker 11: Let's start with this. I've trained so many thousands of
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: women in self defense across the world, and one of
• 21:42
  Speaker 11: the things that I can tell you is when you
• 21:44
  Speaker 11: train men in self defense, they're ready to fight in
• 21:47
  Speaker 11: the parking lot. When you train women in self defense.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: They're cautious.
• 21:51
  Speaker 11: They don't really want to use it, and the only
• 21:54
  Speaker 11: time they really want to use it is to protect
• 21:56
  Speaker 11: somebody else. The fact that you are looking at a
• 21:59
  Speaker 11: knife in the door me she was so afraid for
• 22:01
  Speaker 11: her life that she was willing to use a knife
• 22:05
  Speaker 11: to make sure that she was safe. That's how much
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: she understood, how her life hung in the balance. That
• 22:11
  Speaker 11: is human trafficking.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: There is no question to Eric Fattus, veteran trial lawyer
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: joining us founding partner of Varner FATA's elite legal the
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: defense has tried their best throughout the day to tear
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: this witness down. They've used everything from money that Sean
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: comes through at her to buy her silence to a
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: designer bag.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: But I want you to hear what Sidney.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Sumner has learned Crime Story's investigative reporter. Isn't it true,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Sidney Sumner that this witness, Jane met extensively with the defense.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: They knew what was going to happen.
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: Right exactly, Nancy Jane said on the sand first thing
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: that she said with defense attorney Tenny Garrigos was hey,
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: how are you. They knew each other very well. She
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: met with them all the way through April twenty twenty five,
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: just a few months ago.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: So his defense team.
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: Was fully prepared for what Jane was going to say
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: on the stand, and they still had nothing to counter it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, Eric Fattus, when you have to use somebody's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: designer bag, I don't have one, A I don't carry pocketbook.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I learned that trumping the housing projects hands free.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: But when I did.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Have a pocketbook, it was a Frauda, a fake Prada,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: So I don't know anything about Botega bags.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: You'd have to ask doctor Bethny Marshall about that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: But if you're to the point where you have to
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: assault the victim on the stand with claims of a
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: designer handbag, you're digging deep.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: You're at the bottom of the barrel.
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: Fattest Well, Nancy not sure about that. So one person's
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: financial control might be another person's financial support. I think
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: what defense is trying to argue is like, hey, look,
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: she benefited from this relationship. It was mutually consensual and anticipatory.
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: She got some benefits out of it. She wanted to
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: keep seeing him. On cross examination, they talk about that
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: she enjoyed aspects of the freak gosts and in fact
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: that they ended early at times when she expressed discomfort.
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: That doesn't sound like overcoming someone's will. This sounds like
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: a mutually beneficial relationship at least that's how defense is
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: going to style it, and that this was a willing
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: participant who also got something out. That's what they're going
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: to argue.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: The defense trying their best to skewer a witness on
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the stand, a former girlfriend of Sean Combs, only known
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: as Jane to Tisa Tale standing by at the courthouse
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: store of Tisa Tales on YouTube, Tisa, did they crack her?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And wait, Tisa, have you ever.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Seen, for instance, a horror movie or one of those
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: satanic movies where they throw holy water on the possessed
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: person or the demon.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: And they ooh and it burns them. That's what Jane
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: is to Ditty. That's what's happening.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: She's the holy water being thrown on Ditty, right, and
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: he's cringing and they are trying to stab her through
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: the heart with a wooden steak. That's what's happening. All
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: day long, they went at it. Did it work? Did
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: they crack her?
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Judging from the sentiment in the courtroom, it does not
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: look like she they cracked her. She stayed strong and
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: this is the best they could do. When she's in
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: the early years of the relationship. She hasn't gotten to
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: the part where he literally ripped his mask off. You know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: they didn't crack her because what they were claiming is ridiculous.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty thousand over three years, you can
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: make fifty thousand a year. I believe working a little
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: bit of overtime. Again, it is it's always a choose
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: your own adventure. But it's laughable to believe. And Jane
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: did a good job of driving it home, like she's said,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: and it literally after that, we went immediately to a
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: break where she said, well, how much is my body worth?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Did He's team was taken aback and flat footed, because
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: what do you say to something like that, because to
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: give a number it proves everything we think about Diddy.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: But again, it was.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: A powerful moment and Jane the little bunny rabbit. She
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: is sharpening her shake and she is in there fending
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: off So I definitely think she did agreed.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Okay to send me some of our crime stories. Investigative reporter.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Do I understand this correctly? That Shawn Combs aka Diddy
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: fetishized Shaquille O'Neil. Okay, have you ever met him? He's
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: as tall as a door, right, I would not mess
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: with him. I wonder how he feels finding out he's
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: been fetishized by Shawn Combs. Okay, that's neither here nor there.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Plus Michael Jordan and Kobe what well.
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: That aligns with previous testimony that we've heard that Shawn
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: Home specifically wanted to see entertainers Genitalia before they were
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: invited for a freak off because he wanted it to
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: be as big as possible and not plays into this sadism.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: He's mad.
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: Doctor Marshall is brought up.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: WHOA what?
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: What?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Please call me? What did you say?
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: Tisa Tel told us this a few days ago.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: What did you say about Shaq's genitalia?
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: I would have to assume that Shaq, being the person
• 27:28
  Speaker 9: that he is, is a very large person in every aspect. Nancy.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, see here, Sydney, we talk about murder, serial murder, rape, arson,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: childless station.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Drug lords.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I don't have time for euphemisms.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yesterday you you, Tisa Tails, kept talking to me about
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: how Sean Comes, one of the sex workers.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Would be quote well and dowbt.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're making it sound like, as I said, a
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: trust fund at Harvard University, when you're actually talking about
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: the physicality and I'm trying to put it delicately so
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: we don't get thrown off the air of the sex workers.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Is that correct? That's a yes, no, tase of tales.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes and listen. Okay, that's just.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: A yes, just a yes.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, Sidney Sumner, don't put perfume on the pig.
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: Tell it well, Nancy. It appears that Sean Combs wanted
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: an entertainer that could make up for his good feel
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: So we know that Shawn Colms, according to the civil lawsuit,
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: is not well endowed, so we think that he hired
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: entertainers that were much more so. And this could either
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: just be a personal insecurity or maybe it is this
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: satism idea that doctor Bethany Marshall has brought up several
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: times that he wanted the women who participated in these
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: hotel nights to feel some level of pain every single
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: time that they participated. And I wanted to resid eric earlier.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, because I want to hear that.
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: So Sata said that the defense seeing that comes ended
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: these hotel nights early as Jane expressed being uncomfortable. But
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: she pushed back on that idea and said, no, no, no,
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: that was not out of sympathy for me. That was
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: not for my protection. That was because Sean Combs didn't
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: want to waste time on a bad hotel night when
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: it was clear I didn't have chemistry with this entertainer.
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: And that's why Jane says that she had a hand
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: in hiring entertainers, because there were certain people that she
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: at least knew and was comfortable with and wasn't so
• 29:50
  Speaker 9: freaked out by the fact that she was having sex
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: with a sex worker without a condom or a very
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: sweaty man. As Titha told us, so, the only reason
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: she about a hand in setting these up was to
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: protect herself, and Shawn Combs never canceled anything for her comfort.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: It was because he didn't want to waste his time
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: and money on a bad hotel night.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Tisa Tails.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Joining me at the courthouse and I'm gearing up to
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: go to rob Shooter Bethany Marshall and Eric Fattis. Isn't
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: it true, Tissa Tels, let me jog your memory that
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Shawn Comb's aka Diddy wanted to role play where he
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: comes was Michael Jordan and Jane.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Was Kobe Bryant. So let me get this straight.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Boy, do I need a shrink and a drink? But again,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I'm a teatailer, so I'll have to settle for just
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: a shrink. So in his mind it's Shawn Combs and Jane,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: but it's really Shawn Combs and a sex worker with Jane,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and Jane is supposed to be Kobe, and the escort
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: is supposed to be Shack and Diddy is supposed to
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: be Michael Jordan. I'm sure they're all three happy to
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: hear about this. So his fantasy is his girlfriend with
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: a sex worker, and there's a fantasy on a fantasy
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: where in his mind is three basketball greats having sex together.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Poor Kobe is all I can say. How did that play?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, and I'll get back to Bethany on Itdy Biddy Diddy?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: But how did that play? In the courtroom? Tissa tales
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: In the.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Courtroom, the courtroom was everybody was looking saying what in
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the world. People were glancing at themselves like did we
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: hear that right? It went over like a lead balloon.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: It played comical, it played humiliating, but also it really
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: played to the point that people are really starting to say,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: there is something seriously wrong with that man. Passes the poverty,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: past the cruelty, there is something seriously wrong with that man.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: And you look forward, and what did you see?
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Did he do, like you said, eagerly looking at his screen,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: acting like he was reading the manifest Destiny on his
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: computer screen.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Hold about day, Marshall.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I'm saying what Tasa Tails is telling us a million
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: times in the courtroom, where the defendant starts like taking
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: notes and looking at his fingernails, in other words, playing
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: over and over in his head. This isn't happening. This
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: is not happening. This is not happening. But okay, you
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: see me.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Looking off camera.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: It's because I had to make a flow chart. So
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Sean Comes wants the sex worker to be in the
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: words of Sidney Sumner and tasted Tails well in doubt. Again,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: this ain't a trust fund at Harvard University.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: That's not what we're talking about. Does this have anything
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: to do with that?
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: Well, not only is Diddy the diddler on the down low,
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: but he is compensating for his small penis, and I
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: do think that he has I think, I would say
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: in all seriousness, poly perverse meaning a perversion technically is
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: when somebody cannot achieve orgasm through a relationship with another person.
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: They can only achieve orgasm through some fetishized experience like
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: looking at a penis, maybe a high heel, a whip,
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: a chain, something that just stimulates their fantasies, but it
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: has nothing to do with the person there in front
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: of And a common one is sadism. We talked about
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: this yesterday after the courtroom day wrapped. Is that is
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: inflicting pain and cruel and humiliation on another person in
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: order to achieve sexual arousal, but in this case identifying
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: with Kobe, Bryant and Shaquille. I think that this fantasy
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: is of being at the center of attention, the king
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: of the world, somebody who has great capabilities, and maybe
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: the fact is he's compensating for his small appendage.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: But one thing I don't get, doctor Bethany Marshall.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: It's like a fantasy on a fantasy and they're all weird.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let me look at my flow chart.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: It's a role play where Sean Combs is Michael Jordan, Okay,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the paid escort male escort has a shack attack.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: He's shack Shaquille.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: O'Neil, and Jane is Kobe. So it's a fantasy on
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: top of a fantasy.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: What is there a name for that?
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: You know, Nancy. I in my clinical practice I often
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: explore people's sexual fantasies to try to get to the
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: bottom of what their character logical issues are. And this
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: one would take six months of psychoanalysis. Let me tell you.
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think there's this identification with these greats right,
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: that he wants to be like them. That's his resondaetra
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: in life. I think he wants to be penetrated by them,
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: so the idea that he's the recipient of a sex act.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: But you know, you can't just call up Shack and
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: say can we Netflix and chill?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: You can't do that, or can I take you out
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: for a drink? So what are you going to do?
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: You're going to substitute some poor woman. You're sex trafficking
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: in your fantasy life for Shaquille O'Neil, or you're actually
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: she substitutes free.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I've got to go to the pr guru on this,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Rob Sheeter joining us Naughty but Nice and you can
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: find him at Rob Sheeter's Daily news letter on substack.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Rob Sheeter Daily Newsletter on Substack.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Who knew about this fascination with the NBA greats?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Now? I think I recall.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Seeing Comb's front line on the on the court at
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: professional basketball games with various women. But he knew he
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: wasn't watching the scoreboard.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: That's not what he was doing.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: I think people around him knew that he had a
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: fascination with powerful people. When I was working with them,
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: he had a very unusual, interesting fascination.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: What are you saying. What are you saying.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: We're not talking about Gandhi or the president, famous people,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: famous people, private parts.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Why are you saying.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: He was obsessed with famous people, because from what I understand, this.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Is what he's interested in a set of these thoughts.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know if I have thought about that, but
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: I do have thoughts about the great than that. I
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: don't know, Nancy, I'm not I'm not the biggest sports
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: fan in the world. I don't know quite where to
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: say what to say about this one here. I think
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Puffy is saying it or for us, But I also
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: think too, this witness is amazing, This Jane do.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: The ropes.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Puffy is a force. I don't even know what that means.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Puffy is a force. Let's go back to your your
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: safe place. What did you mean he's obsessed with famous people?
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: He was really obsessed with Prince Harry and William. When
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: I worked with him, he had photographs of the young princes,
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: they're about eighteen or nineteen years old. He wanted that
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: touch of royalty to come to his parties. He would
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: always ask me what was going on with them. Puff
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: also to love the weekly magazines. Most people think the
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: weekly magazines come out on a Friday.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: They don't.
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  Speaker 6: They come out on a Wednesday. In New York. Puff
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: was the first person a new stand or. He sent
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: an assistant to go through the weekly magazines. He would
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: circle people that he wanted to be famous around him.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: Ashton Kutcher was somebody that he had a really unusual
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: obsession with. And so Puff being obsessed with people that
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: are powerful, successful, I think that has gone on a
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: really long time.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: So Rob Shooter, you wouldn't touch a pair of these
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: with a ten foot pole, right, Well, I won't talk
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: about it, but you hear the bizarre role play that
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: he insisted on with Jane and I got to tell
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: you something. There's a point in the courtroom where you
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: have to be confident enough in your case and in
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: yourself to say no further questions because you're making it worse,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: the defense is digging their own grave with their teeth,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: talking and talking and trying and trying to massage Jane's
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: testimony all day long on cross exam has backfired spectacularly.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: You're right, Nan, see no further questions.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: You've got me. You know, it's one thing to be
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: talking about tittsy rolls and basketball stars, but can we
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: get down to the brass tacks about what's happening in
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: the courtroom.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I want to know the dynamic.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Between the jurors and Jane on the stand. I can
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: tell what tsa Tails thinks, but how is the jury
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: responding to her?
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Tisa The jury is responding with so much respect and
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: so much compassion. They are locked in, they are sitting up,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: they are taking notes, They were hanging off of every word.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: And to your point about what exactly the defense is doing.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Imagine the jury looking at compassion, still remembering the brutality
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: that she just testified the day before, and now they're
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: besod with images.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Of Diddy Kobe.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: But you know, literally they're in a room and it's
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: like good ready for a shack attack. The jury still
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: remembers how when did he with this role play? They
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: were not allowed to remix or freestyle. He was in
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: control of everything, so he was literally directing them like
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: they were puppets. This ascertainty, this is what the jury
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: is taking notes on. I can't imagine what's in their minds,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: but the fact that they are keeping such straight faces
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: but leaned in and taking notes again, the more incredible
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: and the more preposterate comes. They're just leaning in more
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: and giving Jane so much compassion, so much breath. And again,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: it can't be understated enough that that was this is
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: not the strongest day for the defense. We'll see if
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: it comes.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: What can you tell me about Shawn Combs's mother cozying
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: up to the sketch artist after Shawnkhmes complained that the
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: sketch artist was making him look like a koala and
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: he didn't want to look like a koala bear, and
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: he wanted her to change the way she was depicting him.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Now I understand Shawncambs's mother as for her own sketch
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: in court.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Don't they have better things to think about?
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Lessen Nancy audacity must be hereditary.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: That's all I see in the court room. First of all,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: the court sketch artist was so kind.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Because I actually she actually made Sean Collins looks better
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: than he's looked in a long time, at least when
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: his smile.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: His gums are pink like they should be. However, the mother, the.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Fact that the audacity that she's allegedly approaching the sketch
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: artists asking for things they still think and this goes
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: to this overwhelming confidence that at one time helped them
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: read such dizzying heights.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: This audacity that even in the height of this they have.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: The ability to ask for something, to demand something that
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: other people don't get and to the point of other
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: people shit and't want. How seriously are you taking this
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: where you might not see your son again. This is
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: the last time you might see your son without being
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: behind bars, and you're literally making sketch artists as if
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: they're just local street paparazzi. Again, it's the audacity and
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: it is the goal, you know. But the mom is
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: just sitting there, the family sitting there. They're locked in
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: on the witness. We'll see what happens.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: We stop and remember an American hero police officer, Kyle Hicks,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: just thirty two, shot and killed in the line of duty,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: leaving behind a grieving wife Cassie and children Riley, Katie,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Amelia and Tucker. Four children sentenced to life without their father,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: American hero police officer Kyle Fix. Nancy Gray signing off
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: goodbye's