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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes Tomorrow Morning for Wednesday, October eighteenth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Penn State game is in three days, the game
- 0:07against Michigan in thirty eight days worth the point where I can just do these
- 0:10bikes didn't I didn't even think about it. That's uh, We're getting it.
- 0:14It's about to get real. Tony Gerdaman Bluck guy is about to face
- 0:17one of their biggest challenges, probably the biggest challenge so far this season with
- 0:22the Penn State. Nitney lyons we're inside of what he gays Athletic Center.
- 0:25Just got a chance to talk to Ryan Day and Jim Knowles and Chris Holton,
- 0:29probably mostly going to focus on the first two today. This is it
- 0:33is a pretty significant football game. This is a game where you've got two
- 0:37quarterbacks. You've got Drew Awler, who Ryan Day talked a little bit about
- 0:41recruiting, and you got Tomic Cord, who is Ryan Day's starting quarterback.
- 0:45You got actually a third quarterback because we got to talk about the Devin Brown
- 0:48package too. But this is a game where you got two first year starting
- 0:52quarterbacks in McCord and alur. It just it feels like we are headed for
- 0:58a game that he's gonna be low scoring. And there were four four fair
- 1:03you know, fairly close, and it might very well come down to one
- 1:06of those guys making a play, either a good play or a bad play.
- 1:10Well, we haven't seen Drew ally throw an interception yet this year.
- 1:12They gets twelve touchdowns to no interceptions. So forcing that interception, forcing those
- 1:19turnovers starts with a defensive line and just creating some discomfort there. He's checked
- 1:25down a lot, he's been safe with the ball, and that's that's a
- 1:30tough guy to trap when he's always looking for his outlets. So that's gonna
- 1:34be interesting to watch the penn State quarterback from Ohio. The Ohio State quarterback.
- 1:40Not a lot of people know this. Philadelphia is in Pennsylvania, so
- 1:44it's interesting little sidebar there. Yeah, that is kind of an interesting little
- 1:48spin on spin on things. And Drew Aller was someone who ran date kind
- 1:53of made a run at late in the process from Northeast Ohio. He was
- 1:57someone who sort of came on late in the process and just sort of was
- 2:01rated okay, and then just kind of the more people saw him, the
- 2:06better he was, and the higher he ended up going up the up the
- 2:08ladder. But the Drew Alller story is really kind of a spin off of
- 2:14the Queen Youewers story, Yeah for sure. And the reason Ohio State didn't
- 2:19really recruit Drew Aller is because they had Queen Yours in that same class class
- 2:22of twenty twenty two, and then when quin you Weres reclassified the twenty twenty
- 2:27one, now they needed a quarterback in the twenty twenty two class. So
- 2:30they reached out to Drew Awler, who has already had already been committed to
- 2:32Penn State for a while, and he was like, you know, kind
- 2:36of thanks, but no thanks. I really like it here and I've seen
- 2:39him tell other people that, you know, barring anything unforeseen, he wasn't
- 2:44going to change his mind. And so Ryan Day said, I respected the
- 2:46family, respected the decision, but you had to you had to check.
- 2:51I mean, you don't know unless you ask, and so you shoot your
- 2:53shot and then you get shot down. Yeah, you missed one hundred percent
- 2:57of the quarterback conversations you don't have. And you know, Ohio State ended
- 3:00up coming out of that twenty twenty two class with Devin Brown and Devin Brown
- 3:05is someone who is maybe going to play a bigger role in this game than
- 3:08we would have thought seven days ago, because Devin Brown obviously was involved in
- 3:13that goal line package. And you know, Ryan Day was asked, you
- 3:15know, is that something you're planning on doing this weekend? And shockingly,
- 3:19he did not answer the question directly. That was the one that I was
- 3:23like, boy, I'm not expecting a yes or no answer on this one.
- 3:28But it does sound like that's something they are planning to continue using in
- 3:30the future, whether it's this weekend or after that. Yeah, and not
- 3:35just using what we've seen, but building off of it and doing other things,
- 3:38because that's basically one of the things he talked about. You can't just
- 3:42do that, so you have to do something off of it as well.
- 3:46And so it'll be interesting when do they show the off of it? When
- 3:49do they show the tangent against US is against Penn State. And one of
- 3:53the questions we had was why do it? Why show it against Purdue?
- 3:58And then he talked about a little bit about that just wanting to see it
- 4:00and action you do it, You grab to see it and action against Purdue
- 4:05to know if you should even break it out against Penn State, because if
- 4:08it doesn't work at all against Purdue, you're like, well, I guess
- 4:10the names is our question. Yeah, that reminds me of two thousand and
- 4:15eight when Terrell Pryor, another quarterback from Pennsylvania, came into the game and
- 4:20against Penn State. He was the starter for Ohio State games at home.
- 4:25This was a primetime game, probably about the same time of the year,
- 4:28and Terrell Prior had one mistake, He had a fumble near midfield and boy,
- 4:31that was it. They'd lost the game, I think ten to six.
- 4:34So, yeah, this is a very high stakes game. You want
- 4:36to I kind of got the idea when he was talking about it, just
- 4:41you break it out in a little bit of a lower stake situation, and
- 4:46at Purdue is a little bit more of a there's a little more tolerance for
- 4:48mistakes or you know, if you're concerned about a potential mistake there, then
- 4:53there will be this Saturday against Penn State. Someone else we saw a bunch
- 4:56last week that he was asked, are we going to see more this weekend?
- 5:00Is Delan Hayden, And you know, he went into a little more
- 5:03detail about the why in terms of Whydlan Hayden has not necessarily taken on the
- 5:09role that ink lot of Ohio State fans would like to see him have.
- 5:13But also, you know, he didn't sound like it wasn't. It definitely
- 5:17was not. Yeah, and now he's RB one, no for sure,
- 5:21and they are still going to explore the red shirting situation. They said that's
- 5:27a decision they don't have to make right now. They might have to make
- 5:30it in a couple of weeks, so that'll be something to watch. But
- 5:33you know, it's not been ball control, it's not been fumbling the ball
- 5:36in practice that has kept him off the field. Sounds more like some pass
- 5:41protection issues going on, even though I don't know that rand A specifically,
- 5:46you know said that, But you have to read between the lot of listen
- 5:49between the words hear the notes that the coach doesn't say well, and you
- 5:55can also you can find on the huddle board at Buckey huddle dot com.
- 6:00I've already recorded the two shows with Ross Fulton for this week. Uh,
- 6:03those will be going up on you know in it one day for the offense,
- 6:06in two days for the defense. They're already posted on our huddle board.
- 6:11The offense show, the Defense show go up a little later on today,
- 6:15but I want to I asked Ross about that. I said, you
- 6:16know, I was kind of getting the vibe from Ryan Day's postgame press conference
- 6:20that it was maybe a Blitz pickup pass pro kind of situation, and he
- 6:26said he does. You know, he has seen some of that as a
- 6:28potential issue. Hiden, just not quite. You know, he's not as
- 6:30big as Chip training, so you're you know, if you've got a defensive
- 6:32lineman, you would rather have a chip trainum size running back there. And
- 6:36so then it just becomes a matter of sort of risk tolerance and balancing.
- 6:40Because Ryan Day did say when he's got the ball in his hands, he's
- 6:44doing he's doing great stuff. And you know, he looks best with the
- 6:46football in his hands. So I'm sure there are a lot of people saying,
- 6:49well, then, you know what you should put in his hands more
- 6:51on Saturday. But at that board, yes, that's that is the reason
- 6:56why that may may or may not happen. Uh. Speaking of other things
- 6:59that may or may not happen, let's talk about the status of all of
- 7:01the injured Buck Eyes, Denzel Berg, Trey Bion, Henderson, and Mecca,
- 7:06Abuca, Mia and Williams. Am I missing anyone? Uh No?
- 7:11I think that's those are the ones he got asked directly about. Yeah,
- 7:15and Tony, why don't you fill us in on all of the news that
- 7:16we learned of those guys? According to Ryan Day, he hopes that they'll
- 7:20all be back, so great. I think the bigger news would be if
- 7:25the coach says, well, I hope they're not back. Yeah, yeah,
- 7:29yeah, So very very little information, very little, nuanced, very
- 7:35much coach speak, one oh one. But I don't know that. I
- 7:42mean, I don't think we've heard that any of these things are significant or
- 7:46severe. And he's normally told us if it was. But I don't know
- 7:50that he's ever going to be very open prior to a Penn State game or
- 7:54a Michigan game. Right. This is one of those things where you know,
- 7:58why why did you show the Devin On package the week before? While
- 8:01there's a reason why why would he tell us? Yeah? Where you know,
- 8:05make them, make you know, make Penn State prepare for something else,
- 8:09make Penn State wonder are you gonna have a mecha book? Are you
- 8:13gonna have tre Van Henderson? Are you gonna have Jim train him, or
- 8:15are you're gonna have Miyane Williams, I mean all the Denzel Bert. These
- 8:18are all potentially very consequential players for how this Saturday's game shakes out. So
- 8:24make make Penn State wonder until the last possible mind. Well, yeah,
- 8:26and if you'd say yeah, a Mecca is gonna be back, that means
- 8:31the defensive staff doesn't necessarily have to go look at Brandon Edis And how far
- 8:35back do you have to go to find stuff on Brandon it is? So
- 8:37it's just it's the wasting of time, yeah, situation that coaches love to
- 8:41make other coaches do. For being a fraternity in a brotherhood, the coaching
- 8:45brotherhood, they really like to give each other dog work. No one in
- 8:48a fraternity has ever wasted time before Tony. It's like, it's very much
- 8:54one of these things. I had to do it when I was, you
- 8:56know, kind of up. I had to do it as a coach or
- 8:58paternity brother would, so of course pass it on to anybody else in the
- 9:03same professional college football coaching hazing. Yeah, on the other side of the
- 9:07ball, defensive side of the ball, got Jim Knowles, and you know
- 9:13He was asked first of all about the Penn State offense and the fact that
- 9:18the Penn State offense is very good, but they're not they're not explosive.
- 9:24This is Jim Knowles came into this year talking over and over, but hey,
- 9:28you got a limited explosives and they've done a great job of that.
- 9:31And now you're playing a Penn State team that's in the like one twenties in
- 9:35terms of twenty yard plays and thirty yard plays and forty yard plays that you
- 9:41know, he he was asked about the running backs and the lack of big
- 9:43plays in the grounds. But you know that doesn't sound like something he's just
- 9:48kind of banking on, like, well, they haven't done it before,
- 9:50so I'm sure we'll be fine on Saturday. Yeah, he said, he
- 9:52doesn't look at the stats. He looks at the film and he sees two
- 9:54good running backs, which we've seen, We've seen them be very good running
- 9:58backs. They're still the same running backs, but they're just not running for
- 10:01as many yards this year as they did a year ago. And so he
- 10:05when you examine all of this, you look the potential the players at their
- 10:09best, because you need to prepare to play players at their best. But
- 10:15talking about the big play offense that Penn State does not have, he said,
- 10:18he knows it's there, so you just have to prepare for all of
- 10:22the possibilities you can't prepare for. They haven't done it yet, so I'm
- 10:26sure it'll be fine. One are the odds something goes wrong. Now,
- 10:31you know, this is also a Penn State team that has not played a
- 10:33lot of close games, so they probably have not had to show a lot.
- 10:35You go back to last year and these same running backs were ripping off.
- 10:39I mean, I remember some long runs against Auburton, for example,
- 10:43down down in Jordan Hare, but you know they have hit big plays in
- 10:48the passes, not that they're incapable. This doesn't really happened this year.
- 10:50And that's a little bit weird because this is one of the better, if
- 10:54not the best, Penn State offensive line we've seen out of this team over
- 10:58the past decade or so. For years, that was the thing you just
- 11:01sort of pointed to and went, well, yeah, the skill talent's fine,
- 11:03but with that line, they're never going anywhere, and that has largely
- 11:07borne itself out this year. They have a you know, they have a
- 11:13legit NFL tackle and they've got you know they but they've also had some injuries.
- 11:16So you know, what is Jim Knowles expecting in terms of the Penn
- 11:20State offensive line, Well, he said it's right up there with Notre Dame's
- 11:24offensive line. And we know that was the defensive line took a beating game
- 11:28of beating, but you know it was a physical game. This will be
- 11:31the same. You just prepare for them to be at their best and try
- 11:37to create situations which puts them puts them at their worst. Some conflicts in
- 11:41there, and the way the defensive line is playing right now, I think
- 11:45the expectations are high there for Jim Knowles, but this is gonna be I
- 11:48mean, this is going to be a physical fight for four quarters and field
- 11:56position. It's gonna all every every cliche you've ever talked about with big with
- 12:00big ten, field position, you know, turnovers, all of the stuff
- 12:03that you've grown up with is going to be on display in this one.
- 12:09And you might even get a little big ten weather that was you know last
- 12:13last Saturday, it was kind of fifty degrees or so and cloudy and then
- 12:16raining. You might get something similar to forecast has changed a little bit off
- 12:22and on. But Ryan Day talked about the fact that they you know,
- 12:24they know that's just the reality of life in the Big Ten, speaking of
- 12:28things that have been true in the Big Ten for thirty years, and you
- 12:31know they just kind of have to prepare accordingly. Yeah, global warming has
- 12:35not yet reached the Midwest, but you know, it's one of those things
- 12:39Ryan Day talks about, Well, if everybody has to deal with it,
- 12:41we're all on the same page. But they have practiced outside in the rain
- 12:46a few times this fall, so it's they practiced on grass last week to
- 12:50prepare for Purdue. So they'll they'll try to match the environment of the climate
- 12:56that they'll find and you don't have to work too hard or you know,
- 12:58bring its prey. Clare's to practice in rain in October and Columbus, so
- 13:03they'll be prepared for whatever they face. And they've shown that they could throw
- 13:07the ball in the rain pretty well, so I don't think that concerns them
- 13:11too much. It's always gonna be the wind versus the rain. It is
- 13:15the bigger factor. Yeah, it's not snowing sideways, it's not incredibly windy,
- 13:20so you know it should be. It should be not necessarily an ideal
- 13:24day. We'll see how the forecast shakes out. It's always exactly right three
- 13:28days, so I'm sure we can plan everything around what it says right now.
- 13:31But yeah, it'll be. It should be regardless of the weather,
- 13:35it should be a very very I'm expecting a close, very entertaining, not
- 13:39necessarily high scoring, but very very dramatic football game on Saturday. We will
- 13:45be there. We will have full coverage in the lead up to the game.
- 13:48We'll be back on Wednesday with player interviews as we talk to talk to
- 13:52the bout guys about their expectations going into that game. Then we'll have our
- 13:58usual Bold Predictions episode of Buckeye Weekly. We'll have our game preview show.
- 14:01We'll have all that stuff coming up. And it's a big recruiting weekend as
- 14:05well. Mark Kivler just dropped a skull session column on the huddleboard oftpucke huddle
- 14:09dot Com looking at what the rest of this twenty twenty four cycle might look
- 14:13like for the Buckeyes's gonna be a very very big recruiting weekend. A lot
- 14:16of big names, both current commits and potential targets, for twenty twenty four
- 14:20to twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, and beyond in the Horseshoe on
- 14:24Saturday. So it's gonna be a lot of stuff to talk about. You
- 14:26can talk about it all at bucke huddle dot com and at YouTube dot com
- 14:28slash Buckeyehuddle. That will do it for today. Thank you guys all for
- 14:31joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.