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- 0:00The 2027 Worldview Matters Conference will take place April 30th and May 1st at the Tundra Lodge Resort, Water Park and Conference Center in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
- 0:10Speakers include Andy Woods, Brandon Holthouse, Nathan Jones, Matthew Mayer,
- 0:18Hadia Miramati Falco, Pete Garcia, Brian Thomas, Steve Smotherman, J.B. Hickson, Mark Henry, Brianna Claussen, Alex Newman, Mark and Amber Archer.
- 0:35To register, go to davidfiorazzo.com or worldviewmattersconference.com.
- 0:46Welcome to Worldview Matters.
- 0:48Discussing controversial issues.
- 0:51Discerning current events.
- 0:53Defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:56No topic.
- 0:57Off limits.
- 0:59And now, here's your host, David Fiorazzo.
- 1:03Family in Christ, brothers and sisters, we decided to put that promo up first because we've got one of the speakers that's coming to Green Bay all the way from California.
- 1:12She is with ResurrectMinistry.com.
- 1:16We've had her on the podcast before, Hadea Miramadi Falco.
- 1:20Welcome, sister.
- 1:21Appreciate your time today.
- 1:23Thank you so much for having me.
- 1:24Always a pleasure.
- 1:25Thank you.
- 1:25Yep, and thank you for accepting our invitation to come to Green Bay, Wisconsin, and rally the remnant of true Bible-believing Christians, and hopefully wake up more of the sleepy church or professing Christians, and maybe even convert some people, I don't know, to Christianity or conservatism.
- 1:45But we've got to wake up a lot of people.
- 1:46Go ahead.
- 1:48I wanted to give you some props because I was in St. Louis, Missouri, and somebody came up to me and goes, you're going to be at the Worldview Conference.
- 1:56And I was like, wow, how did you know that?
- 1:58So apparently she's a huge fan and she's going to be there too.
- 2:01So it's reached outside of the States and that's fantastic.
- 2:05Super excited about it.
- 2:06Yes, I'm excited, too.
- 2:08And we're growing and it's not me.
- 2:09It's the guests, I really believe.
- 2:11I think it's the, you know, Jeff, the people behind the scenes that make this thing run and and get out there to people.
- 2:20And it's it's reaching more and more.
- 2:22So I'm very thankful.
- 2:23But I want to quote you and then dive into the first article that I want to talk about when I talk about the spread of Islam.
- 2:30talk about the No Sharia Act and so many things that are important to kind of wake people up.
- 2:36Because I think now that we're seeing radicals, radical Islamists, Muslims, Marxists,
- 2:42be elected in America, I think people are going, whoa.
- 2:47So we weren't exaggerating, those of us who were trying to warn, and you're an expert on this.
- 2:51But you say, you write, before we ask what has happened to America, we should be willing to ask what has happened to the church?
- 3:01America's crisis is not merely political.
- 3:04A culture cannot be politically restored to virtues.
- 3:08Its people have spiritually abandoned.
- 3:11Government can restrain evil.
- 3:13It can protect borders, punish crime, defend religious liberty, and preserve public order.
- 3:19It cannot create holiness.
- 3:21It cannot regenerate the human heart.
- 3:23Our hope is that a revived Christianity can once again transform people, families, and ultimately the culture around them.
- 3:33And that's from your article over at the Christian Post.
- 3:41For Islam.
- 3:43So this is not just a sensational, provocative, attention-getting headline that's going to be about something else.
- 3:50No, this is what you're writing about and warning about.
- 3:54You're answering that question.
- 3:55So let's just start right there, Hadiyah.
- 3:59I'm disappointed that we have to talk about this, but it's an important subject.
- 4:04So go ahead and just start on the article first.
- 4:07Well, it's the reason I wrote the article is because I was in St. Louis and I'm talking about the thousands of Christians that leave the faith for Islam every year.
- 4:19And I speak to dozens of families around the country who have lost their kids to Islam.
- 4:25Child grew up in the church, read the Bible, was, they believed, saved, and then walked away and turned to Islam.
- 4:33And the response I got overwhelmingly was, it's something like good riddance.
- 4:38You know, they were never believers or they never could have left.
- 4:41Now, there is a theological truth attached to that, absolutely.
- 4:45But from the seventh century onward, when Christendom was being conquered by Islamic armies, the rulers at the time, the Christian leaders at the time of the church were saying, why has God allowed
- 5:01this foreign army to conquer us.
- 5:04What sin have we committed?
- 5:06So they always looked inward.
- 5:08In addition to understanding the demonic forces that were empowering the armies against them, they always turned inward to see what sin has come over us
- 5:19that we have been defeated.
- 5:21And I think that that thread also from the Old Testament forward with the Israelites, they always understood that idol worship, leaving God, not following his commandments would lead to destruction.
- 5:34And I think it's a super important point.
- 5:37As Islamic, you know, civilian armies are coming across Europe and the United States, we need to ask ourselves, are we prepared?
- 5:47Are we pursuing holiness?
- 5:49Are we following God's commandments?
- 5:51Is our Christian witness strong enough to defeat what we're coming up against?
- 5:57So politics, super important.
- 5:58Vote, vote, vote.
- 5:59Get involved.
- 6:00Locally, super important.
- 6:02But we cannot forget the importance of being obedient servants to Christ.
- 6:07Amen.
- 6:08Amen.
- 6:08And you rightly point out the article that Peter writes, judgment begins with the household of God, with the house of God.
- 6:14There's a famous quote by John Stott.
- 6:17He said, we should not ask what's wrong with this world, for that diagnosis has already been given.
- 6:22Rather, we should ask what has happened to the salt and light.
- 6:27And so one thing we dissect with many guests on this podcast, Adia, is what you end the article, toward the end of the article, you write,
- 6:35or in the middle of the article, how did a civilization saturated with churches produce generations increasingly unable to explain what Christianity teaches, much less why it's true?
- 6:52This is part of the bigger problem.
- 6:56The finger points back at us, the church pastors.
- 7:00Speak to that for a moment.
- 7:02Well, it's and again, it's my experience also with families and listening to Christians, the Christian families really suffering at what's happening to their children.
- 7:12Also, the rise of anti-Semitism.
- 7:15So not only are they falling away from the church, from their relationship with Christ, but they're falling into these.
- 7:21you know, demonic strongholds of demonizing the Jewish people.
- 7:25And they're like, what is happening?
- 7:27And we we really have to look at what are we teaching our young people?
- 7:32What are we talking about in our homes?
- 7:34Because when I was a Muslim, unfortunately, I actually was a part of converting dozens of Christians.
- 7:40And so let me point out that some of the
- 7:42most prominent issues were these children were, these young people were unable to defend the authenticity of the Bible.
- 7:49So a Muslim will often come at a Christian with, yeah, we love Jesus, he was a prophet, but your Bible's corrupted.
- 7:56So the whole idea that Jesus is God, absolutely untrue because your Bible's corrupted.
- 8:01And they weren't able to defend the historical, archeological, the scholarly beliefs
- 8:08foundation of the Bible and its authenticity, and that it's the most preserved authentic document in the world throughout history.
- 8:17And not only that, but they also were witnessing a great hypocrisy in their own families.
- 8:22So their families were...
- 8:24professing Christ and yet living like people of the world.
- 8:28And when I say that, I mean, you know, drunkenness, abusiveness, just kind of debauchery.
- 8:34And these kids were like, if that's what Jesus represents, I want nothing to do with it.
- 8:39And they were looking oftentimes in a time of crisis for discipline and order
- 8:44And it's so sad to think that they didn't find that sense of righteousness and holiness in a relationship, you know, in the church, in Christianity, and thought they had to go over to Islam to find it.
- 8:56So let me ask you about something that I think confuses a lot of people about this.
- 9:00And again, your article is over at the Christian Post, Why Are Christians Leaving for Islam?
- 9:05It came out a couple weeks ago.
- 9:07It's kind of like the...
- 9:10queers for Palestine.
- 9:11It's like, what?
- 9:12So let me ask you about women, young women.
- 9:16Why would a woman leave at least biblical Christianity?
- 9:21I think part of the answer is maybe they didn't know what Christianity taught to begin with, but why would a woman or female go to an oppressive system like Islam?
- 9:34I've heard so many of these stories and I actually have a similar story.
- 9:40So I was raised entirely secular and when I was looking for discipline and order, it seemed like Islam provided that kind of shelter.
- 9:51It provided parameters.
- 9:53And I think for the Christian families that I talk to, their kids are also facing some kind of a crisis.
- 9:59And they think for some reason that Christianity or what they saw in the church would not provide them the kind of order that they were looking for.
- 10:10And so it's really a shame.
- 10:12And I think that that comes from whether it's the Bible preaching they're hearing in their churches is kind of watered down.
- 10:17It's not teaching the full counsel of God.
- 10:19There's not enough discussion of sin and repentance.
- 10:22There's not enough discussion about holiness and what it means to be set apart for the Lord.
- 10:28and that the persecution that would come for the church, for the Lord says, if they hated me first, they will hate you too.
- 10:34It's, you know, Paul's advice to Timothy, suffer with me like a good soldier of Christ.
- 10:41These kind of tenets are not being taught to our young people, so they feel a sense of,
- 10:47of pride being a soldier of Christ.
- 10:49That's what we're commanded to be and to go out and make disciples and teach all that I have commanded you.
- 10:55So they're not getting the full counsel of God.
- 10:58And so when they're desperate and down, they look to a religion that they think has power, has discipline and provides society, community, a network.
- 11:09One of the girls' families that I talked to, she was particularly interested in this kind of community that she found.
- 11:16She found that the kids at church didn't have enough of a community.
- 11:20They were kind of, you know, all over the place.
- 11:22And that within Islam, going to the mosque, she was going to provide an instant network of support and reinforcement.
- 11:30So let me ask you something, drill down just a little bit more on this, because I have heard also reports or articles on whether it's men or women, but some leaving Christianity for like the Eastern Orthodox Church or something else.
- 11:45And they're looking maybe for tradition, maybe for the reverence, but I think also for works.
- 11:51because they wanted maybe to do good.
- 11:53So maybe they're looking for something else.
- 11:55But let me ask you, do you think part of the problem is the seeker-sensitive church doesn't give them substance or a good foundation or biblical teaching or a proper understanding of what you just explained, discipleship and preaching the gospel, what true Christianity is as ambassadors for Christ, so they don't have a good example with a lot of these wishy-washy so-called churches.
- 12:19I think some churches you have to put in the air quotes.
- 12:22but do you think that's part of the problem why some people are leaving because they see that if that's christianity i can get that from the world exactly well and also we don't
- 12:32do works to be saved, we do works because we are saved.
- 12:37So works without faith is dead.
- 12:39Faith without works is dead, excuse me.
- 12:41So it's gotten to the point where people are like, you have to do nothing, grace alone is sufficient.
- 12:48But we're abusing the concept of grace when we do that.
- 12:50When our lives are not representing the fruit of following Jesus, then when people look at us, it looks like atheism with a cross.
- 12:59There is no there is no sense of we represent the people of God and that we have the righteousness of Christ within us and that we are being transformed into his image day after day.
- 13:10So what does that transformation look like?
- 13:13If there's no transformation, if it's it's you're the same the day after that you supposedly get saved and there's no fruit in your life, then everybody around you is kind of like, what are you exactly offering me?
- 13:25You know, it doesn't it's not attractive.
- 13:29It's not attractive.
- 13:30If a person's life is all messed up, they need a relationship with God.
- 13:34They want to try to pursue a better life.
- 13:38They want to leave a life of debauchery.
- 13:40And they look over and this person is just as debased as they are.
- 13:45And they're like, well, just come to church on Sunday.
- 13:48Yeah, not a good selling point.
- 13:51Not a good selling point.
- 13:53So let me ask you this.
- 13:54I'm in your article.
- 13:55Then we're going to move on to another article that you wrote.
- 13:57But by the way, great interviews.
- 13:58I've seen your interviews on Victory News, on Newsmax, which I want to talk about in a minute.
- 14:03Because in your article, you said...
- 14:06You talk about Sharia, persecution, religious liberty, immigration, Islamist political movements require serious public debate and response.
- 14:17And you say, as a former Muslim, I have no interest in minimizing the differences between Christianity and Islam.
- 14:24So in this article, I'm sorry, in this interview that you were a part of over at Newsmax, it talked about Congressman Randy Fine, who introduced the No Sharia Act,
- 14:34First of all, it's just astounding we have to do that.
- 14:37But speak to us about that because of what's going on in California and other places that this is necessary now.
- 14:44Please explain that.
- 14:46Sure, so it's super important that we keep our eye on the politics of our nation.
- 14:53So there's a certain internal discipline we must have as Christians, but we must be involved in our government, our government, our culture, our society.
- 15:03And so as Islam is an entire political ideology, it's a global expansionist doctrine that seeks to subdue and conquer the nations and cultures it comes into contact with.
- 15:15That is a historical theological fact.
- 15:18I'm not talking about all Muslims, I'm talking about the religion and the ideology of Islam.
- 15:25And so as it comes in contact with our society, which is a liberal freedom based society and a democracy, we have to realize that this system is incompatible with our legal system.
- 15:40So how do we balance the rights of religious freedom, which are also a fundamental tenet of our country, with a group of people that want to impose their ideology on our system?
- 15:53And so that is the line.
- 15:55There cannot be a public accommodation of parts of the Islamic ideology that are in conflict with our rules and government.
- 16:06That's so important for us to understand, because, and this goes back, I think, Hadiyah, to a misunderstanding of what Islam is, and it's not a religion, well, let alone a religion of peace, but it's not a religion.
- 16:18It isn't an economic and political system more than a religion.
- 16:23They use a false deity to advance their agenda.
- 16:26Can you define that for us?
- 16:27Absolutely.
- 16:28So the Supreme Court has decided in dozens of cases, Islam is a religion.
- 16:32So it's a it's a group of sincerely held beliefs.
- 16:36So it's a religion wrapped in a political ideology.
- 16:40So there are in Sharia, which is synonymous with Islamic law.
- 16:45There are rules of fasting and praying and raising your children and all those things that are common to a faith system.
- 16:53But it has an ideology in which it operates.
- 16:57And that political ideology, that cultural enforcement is part of the religion.
- 17:06So that's what creates the quandary for our American government is what do we do with the fact that their Sharia, their Islamic law, is coming into great conflict with the U.S.?
- 17:19Let's take, for example, let's line them out.
- 17:21Polygamy.
- 17:22women's rights, divorce rules, the rules on divorce, marriage, custody issues, community property, prayer, noise ordinances, animal sacrifices.
- 17:35These are all the ways in which the Islamic system comes into conflict with the American system.
- 17:41And so my argument is that we don't necessarily need new laws.
- 17:45We need to enforce the laws that we have.
- 17:47If the U.S. courts were enforcing American divorce laws, then there wouldn't be women losing custody of their children because a Sharia-based marriage contract is being enforced in a U.S. court.
- 18:02And that is happening across the country.
- 18:05We wouldn't have families complaining about the call to prayer going off at 5 a.m. if the city councils would enforce the neutral noise ordinances that we have across the country.
- 18:17But it's just not happening.
- 18:19Yeah.
- 18:19So what I'm hearing is, and I think I heard something about favoritism when it comes to Muslims and Muslims.
- 18:25Right.
- 18:26In airports and foot washing.
- 18:27And what I'm hearing is they're starting to give special rights to Muslims.
- 18:35And they would never put anything for Christians or, you know, Jews in airports.
- 18:40But let's talk about immigration for a minute.
- 18:43Doesn't it surprise you?
- 18:45I know with your background as a former Muslim, it doesn't surprise you that more Americans don't get immigration.
- 18:53defending our borders and having a border and then enforcing immigration laws.
- 18:58It's astounding what has happened.
- 19:00I think in your, I think the Newsmax or the Victory News interview you did, you talked about what was happening in France.
- 19:08And these are, you know, like even white women, you know, these are people that are just following this ideology and they're rioting.
- 19:16And that's coming to our, that's already here.
- 19:19Can you talk to us a little bit about that?
- 19:23Strong borders, obviously super important.
- 19:26God created nations and people.
- 19:28So we absolutely believe in a strong border policy.
- 19:32And this rampant migration problem that Europe has is a huge threat to the civilization and culture that they're trying to preserve, or maybe they're not even bothering to preserve anymore.
- 19:45The solution is not deportation.
- 19:47So a lot of people say, well, you just have to deport them all.
- 19:50But in the United States in particular, these are second and third generation Americans.
- 19:54We're not going to deport our way out of the problem.
- 19:57What I was pointing out in the Newsmax article piece was that they showed a clip and they were all white people.
- 20:04So it wasn't the Algerians that this movement started with.
- 20:08It was this combined force exactly like we saw on college campuses.
- 20:13When they were threatening the Jewish students, they had those encampments.
- 20:17They weren't all Muslims because the Red Jihad, as I call it, which is the violent end of this Marxist-Islamist alliance, it doesn't care what religion you are.
- 20:28They're just united in their desire to destroy the West.
- 20:31And so they are united in that ideology.
- 20:34They don't care what happens after, but they want to sow discord and violence to tear apart our country.
- 20:42Same as what they're doing in Europe.
- 20:43They use a cause like overcrowded classrooms, just like we did in our college campuses.
- 20:49Supposedly it was about Palestinian rights, but it was way beyond that.
- 20:54It is about sowing discord and hopefully tearing at the fabrics of our country.
- 21:00And one of the main reasons they're against the, quote, West is they see that as Christianity or our Judeo-Christian founding.
- 21:05Judeo-Christian.
- 21:06Yeah.
- 21:07So we need to move on.
- 21:08You wrote another article at the Christian Post on Inside My Meeting with Reza Pahlavi, his plan for a free Iran.
- 21:16And I don't know where I've been, Hadea, but—
- 21:19In that interview you did over at Victory News, did I see him speak at CPAC?
- 21:24And he said he wants he wants President Trump to finish the job against Iran.
- 21:31Tell us about this and why this encourages you.
- 21:35Oh, it's super encouraging because the crown prince wants a secular democratic republic for Iran.
- 21:43He wants to restore the great civilization that Iran has been for 3,000, some people say 4,000 years.
- 21:50And he wants to do away with the oppression that the mullahs have been causing, enforcing Islam in its most...
- 21:58oppressive and extreme interpretations.
- 22:01And he wants his people to be free again.
- 22:04And so he's calling on President Trump to put maximum pressure, not just financially, but militarily.
- 22:10And so what I'm really hoping for, I've said this before, is that I'm not so encouraged by the U.S. being in charge of a regime change.
- 22:20I want the regime change to come from the Iranian people
- 22:23when there's an opening big enough for the people to come back on the streets without being massacred in the thousands.
- 22:29So that means that there's this kind of a sweet spot where the IRGC becomes degraded enough, their stranglehold on their finances are bad enough that the people want to come out in the streets and have the ability to do so hopefully with arms, with weapons, paying the salaries of people who want to defect.
- 22:52And so these are some of the pieces that need to come together.
- 22:55So they need the armament.
- 22:56They need some of the resources that the that the United States has frozen that belong to the Iranian people.
- 23:03And then hopefully they'll have a chance at freedom.
- 23:07So one of the questions you ask is what happens the day after a so-called revolution.
- 23:14He's got a five-part strategy, and that includes religious freedom and the church protecting religious freedom, if I'm not mistaken.
- 23:24You say something spiritual is occurring there, and the gospel has flourished, even though the regime has tried to extinguish it for decades now.
- 23:33Tell us more about that.
- 23:35Yeah, so there's anywhere between four to five million Christians that are part of the underground church in Iran right now.
- 23:43It's the fastest growing church in the world.
- 23:44And so despite the demonic oppression that they're under and the violence and the persecution that happens if you convert to Christianity, it is still spreading like wildfire.
- 23:56And so the meeting I was a part of was an evangelical cohort that was basically
- 24:01trying to understand from him that if he were to go and lead the country in that transition, would he allow the gospel to go forward so that we could take the underground church overground?
- 24:12And he unequivocally committed to that, that Christianity would go unhindered in the new Iran.
- 24:21And yeah, one of the things you say in your article, imagine Iranian pastors freely training other believers.
- 24:27And this is, I've heard about through Voice of the Martyrs and others, the underground church just growing and thriving, even with persecution.
- 24:34I'm thinking, man, I wonder what America would look like.
- 24:37Hopefully we'll never find out, but I wonder what the American church would look like if we fell under persecution when we know generally—
- 24:45that's when Christianity grows and spreads.
- 24:48So we've got under three minutes left, Hadiyah.
- 24:50What do you see happening maybe with the U.S.-Iran relation there?
- 24:54What's going on?
- 24:55I know I'm asking you to speculate a little bit, but you're up to speed on this a lot more than the average person.
- 25:01Well, historically, unfortunately, our State Department, so our deep state, as people call it, is against allowing Pallavi to return.
- 25:10And so this, you know, wanting to encourage and support his return to Iran has been something they've fought for a very long time.
- 25:17And I'm sure that's the pressure President Trump is still under is a lot of government officials saying, no, no, no, we can't restore a monarch.
- 25:24But he has said repeatedly he is not trying to restore a monarch.
- 25:28He wants to be the transitional leader.
- 25:30And millions of Iranians, if you watch some of the videos that are coming out of Iran, are chanting his name because he represents the beauty of the country that they've lost.
- 25:43He represents a hope.
- 25:45and a stability that would unite all of the various factions in Iran to be able to transition to a new country.
- 25:52And I just think it's an extraordinary moment in time that us Christians should be in prayer for them, that hopefully one day they will see that freedom and they will see it soon.
- 26:04And I mean, it's a delicate dance because we also have the Gulf states.
- 26:09who do not want to see a free and democratic Iran, because it'll change the entire geopolitical dynamics of the Middle East.
- 26:17Amazing.
- 26:18Oh, Lord, something to pray about.
- 26:20Definitely.
- 26:21I just want to remind people to look you up on YouTube at Resurrect Ministry.
- 26:26They can connect with you on Facebook, Hadiyah Miramati Falco.
- 26:30We've got a minute left.
- 26:32Just want you to encourage our listeners and viewers, because we've got huge midterm elections coming up and Christians, especially the remnant.
- 26:41We've got to get more people to understand where we're at in America and why this is such an important election.
- 26:48I think we have to realize that this election could change the trajectory for Christians for years to come.
- 26:58Because if President Trump loses control of Congress, we can go back into the dark ages where nothing absolutely gets done.
- 27:07And then
- 27:08what God forbid we lose the 2028 election and we go back to a severe persecution of Christians.
- 27:14I wanna remind people that the FBI under Biden went after radical, what they called radical Catholics.
- 27:20They went after preachers that were outside of abortion clinics.
- 27:24And look around at Canada, look at Europe, the hate speech laws against Christians.
- 27:29We have to vote, we have to be responsible.
- 27:32We have to vote like our lives depend on it because it does.
- 27:35Yes, and religious freedom.
- 27:36We can't take that for granted any longer.
- 27:38Thank you for your time.
- 27:38It goes by so fast.
- 27:40We'll keep in touch and we'll see you soon.
- 27:43Thank you, David.
- 27:44You're welcome.
- 27:44Friends, share this one.
- 27:46God bless you.
- 27:46And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.
- 27:49See you next time.