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ITB: What Would The Best Offense Of NFC East-Only Players Look Like? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds back. What's going on everybody? And is
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan. Yeah, we're in the thick
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: of that time between the end of the mini camp
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: and the start of training camp. And this is gonna
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: be a fun podcast series that we do every single
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: year where Adam and I do a draft of NFC
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: East only players. It's sort of like a fantasy style draft,
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: except we also do offensive lineman and we do defense
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: as well. Some some leagues don't do defense or just offense,
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: and it's but it's not just for fantasy. We're trying
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: to draft what we think is the best overall offense
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: and defense. So in this podcast we'll do offense. The
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: next podcast will do defense and as well as do Adam.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: We take a look back right first on how we
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: did last year and oh okay, drafted and the first
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: time I have done this visually, and I have already
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: looked through our draft from last year of the offense
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: and then determined that you beat me, your team beat mine.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: And when we look I'll show you why in a
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: second there were some clear advantages that your team had overmine.
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: So why don't I go to it? Now you can
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  Speaker 1: see that right, Yes, Okay, So what I did was
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: I put all of our picks at each position and
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: then try to total up who won and in a
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  Speaker 1: one on one style.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm looking at it right now.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: Wow, okay, Yeah, So I one quarterback kind of easily
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: because I had Jalen Hurts and you had Jaden Daniels
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: and Jayden not only had a rough season but also injured,
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: so nothing you could do about that. As we moved
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: to running back, you clearly kicked my ass. I don't
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: know what I was thinking, And I think this is
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: going to be because this year, Adam, I feel like
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: the NFC East is so much deeper, especially on offense,
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of positions that we won't be in a
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: situation where when you take a guy like you did
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley last year, I really had no I felt
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: like I had no good options, so I went with
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: a rookie. Right, it's camp Scataboo. Now. The big thing
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: was I discounted what kind of bounce back year that
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: Javonte Williams would have.
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: The hell, I was just going to bring that up.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: How would you possibly know? Because he had before he
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: had a multi liguament knee injury. He looked like he
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: was going to be a stud and then he was
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: never the same. Tean Payton moved on from him right,
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  Speaker 2: and then would you know that he starts being mister
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  Speaker 2: Golin carry. He just was. That's part of why Jayden
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: Blue didn't play. Miles Sanders was. I mean, he's he's
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: pretty much done anyway, but yeah, he was. Javonti Wells
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  Speaker 2: is a great story. Now here's the thing about Scatibo
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  Speaker 2: m scattaboo had he not gotten hurt and that was
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  Speaker 2: a bad injury, broken leg, and he was That was
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: a tough one.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: He was on a roll.
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: He crushed the Eagles at one game, absolutely crushed him.
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: Barkley had a tremendous fall off. Wasn't really his fault.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: It was the offensive line's fault. And honestly, remember you
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: had bad luck with the Milake neighbors. There's this a
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: cl and he had a meniscus. Prepare debo was just okay,
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm looking at your team, got her.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's a here. I scratched my head at wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver because I went back and looked to make sure
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  Speaker 1: this guy was on the team when we did it.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: Because on defense, as we get to the next pod,
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: you had Micah Parsons. He obviously got traded weight right
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: before the season opener, so that you can't control. But
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: there was a player that we did not pick, and
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: really it's on me because you did better wide receiver
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: than I did. But we did not pick who had
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: an unbelievable year that we probably should have seen coming
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: but me, especially because you had better wide receivers. But
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: as we look here in the screen shows, I had
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: A J. Brown, Elik Neighbors and Deebo Samuel Oh, you
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: had CD Lambdavante Smith. How did we miss on George Pickens?
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  Speaker 2: That's bad? Yeah, I don't remember what the scenario was. Like, well,
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: let's put it this way, right, no question picking should
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: have gone over Debo. But AJ Brown, you can make
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: the case Brown over Pickens. Sure, I mean that that's
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: at least a debatable thing going into it. Lamb is
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  Speaker 2: a is a He's just a production monger. He's just incredible,
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  Speaker 2: Like he's just put up massive numbers neighbors towards a
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: cl and Davante was Davante's excellent, He's great. You know
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  Speaker 2: his role's going to grow. We didn't know that that
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: Aj wouldn't be back. It's time we drafted. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: we clearly screwed that up.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I was gonna say the first four you
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: can make a pretty good argument for. But the last
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  Speaker 1: two Terry McLaurin, Deebo, Samuel although you got to remember,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like Pickens was like this multi year thousand
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  Speaker 1: yard res here, but you knew he had that ability,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess we just went on the known over
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  Speaker 1: the unknown by taking Deebo and mclach I really screwed
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: the pooch taking.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: For the majority issue. You know, you have that like
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: like last year, as great of the seasons he had,
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: he had games where he drifted. Why do you think
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: that the Cowboys did something they never do. They came
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: out and said, we've told George we're not gonna we're
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: not going to negotiate extension. Instead of doing with Jerry
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: Jones always does, he lets it linger linger Linger, then
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: backs in overpays. Well, they decide they're not going to
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: do They're not even to negotiate with him. So after
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: the season if they want him back at all, right,
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  Speaker 2: that's not what they do. But that tells you all
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: you need to know they don't trust him.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, So to recap receiver, you won on Lamb
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  Speaker 1: over Brown, you won on DeVante Smith over neighbors. Obviously
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: neighbors got to hurt. And then from a statistical standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel had better year than McLaurin because he played
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: more games than McLaurin. So I win on that. Although
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: it feels like a what do they call like a
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: pyrrhic victory, I don't know. I just felt it feels
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: like a dirty wind of debot over McLaurin.
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny real quick. I'm looking at
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: because you put on the excel while whoever is in
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: bold is who won. Yeah, what's comical about Jurgens versus Bebe.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: Jurgens made the pro ball BB didn't.
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: But I still like I couldn't do it at him, Like,
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I couldn't know, my guy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember. I mean, Cam, sorry, you should have
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: been a pro baller. I'm trying to be nice about it.
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like that. He was definitely though
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: voted in to start right as a starter. Was that
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  Speaker 2: the case was?
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  Speaker 1: I think he was. Yeah, that's amazingly.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's insanity.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: So tight end was probably the closest one. And originally,
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: without looking at anything, I was going to give it
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: to god Her because I knew he had the eleven touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: But then when I went and researched it, Ferguson actually
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: had twenty more catches and more yards as well, So
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: and then I looked at it from a fantasy football
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  Speaker 1: expected and he had like a few more points. So
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: I gave it to Ferguson. Really could have been either
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: they're both really good. And uh yeah, offensive line a
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: great job with you on getting tunsled. I mean, he
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: really did have a bounce back year. Mylotta did not
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: have her as a mile a lotta ish year for
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: the Eagles. Some regression from the offensive line in general. Obviously,
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: you had Landon Dickerson, who could have predicted how beat
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  Speaker 1: up and injured he'd be. Tyler Smith of the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: I had he had a really good.
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: Year, dude, he is You got to remember this guy.
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  Speaker 2: There were a lot of concerns with him that he
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: was not going to play left tackle at this level.
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: He's two row out of Tulsa. Yep, they'd moved in
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  Speaker 2: a guard a position and played before. They were like
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: it because it's not like they had Jeff Stalin is
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  Speaker 2: offensive line coach, Like, yeah, there was major concerns and
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: he everyone who thought he couldn't play what was wrong,
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  Speaker 2: Like this is a this is like an all time
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: position change that everyone was fulled like obviously Dallas on
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: Dallas is not gonna do unless they think he can
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  Speaker 2: do it. It was just an amazing Then it's funny.
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: I remember, I don't know what did we draft. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, do you remember when we drafted?
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did this show earlier. I did check. We
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: did this at the end of May last year. So
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: I'm glad we waited this year longer because of you know,
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: teams are adding on later, they're making trades later.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: Ochs are over. But what happened was with Connolly, I
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: got a very good tip that not only would he
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: start like he had a great training camp, so they're
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: very optimistic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know why I took him over what you obviously
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: took lane. So I had to take a right tackle.
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, and this is the point I'm making, Like this
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  Speaker 1: year when we were about to do our offensive draft,
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: there were times in the last two years where you
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: and I had to jump on a player at a
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: position very early, like Jason Kelsey had center right and
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when we started this thing,
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  Speaker 1: because there was just no rival at that position in
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: the division. That's how bad the division was and how
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: good the Eagles were. When when we when we do
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  Speaker 1: our picks for offense year, I'm gonna feel comfortable not
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: necessarily getting a certain guy at a position, because I
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: feel like there'll be another guy that I will be
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with. But you know, last year, I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: how Josh Connor. I expected him to be good. I
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  Speaker 1: knew it was a first round pick, but I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get Lane early because the rest of the division
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  Speaker 1: I felt was but very uncertain on the right tackles.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: It was, but I but it's not like when we drafted,
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: we had we had any idea Connory would turn out
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  Speaker 2: to be as good because he'd remember he never played
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  Speaker 2: right tackle before. Yeah, that was like, was I going
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: to take Germaine Iluminor, who's been a nice journeyman offensive lineman,
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: nice story, just got a new deal, good for him. No,
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: I just took a because we're drafting just we have
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: to make Claire, this is just for the season. We're
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: not just not a dynasty team. So we're trying to
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: win a super Bowl. We're trying to put the get.
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: We're trying to put together the best starting lineup, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what this is about.
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  Speaker 1: Right at right guard, I listened. I didn't go I
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: didn't go searching for underlying data. Okay, I didn't go
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: to like deep into the analytics rabbit hole. Cosme played
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: well in his comeback from the ACL injury. Because both
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: of the teams, Tyler Booker with the rookie, both the
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Commanders had really good run games last year.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: I believe they were both top five run games. So
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: right guard run game, you know past pro is important,
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: but you also get center help. So I just I
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: gave it a tie because they're both pretty good at
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: what they do.
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: The only thing. The only thing is with guard, it's
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: it's not like we're drafting. Okay, you're gonna have to
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: draft a right corner to the left corner.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: It's similar to me in guard. I understand it's not
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: easy to move from left guard to right cord, right
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: guard to left guard. But I'm just drafting the best guard.
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not worrying about Wather's left guard.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. So I but I did
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: give that a tie and because of that, and honestly,
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: you know, Connor Ly did play well, but Lane Johnson
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: being hurt is the reason why Connor Lee Yeah won that.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: Uh so you got to win their six to four.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: Your team beat my team. I mean, I think these
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: are pretty fair evaluations of who won and who didn't.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: From an individual basis.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I'd have to look at
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: Scattaboo's stat numbers before he got hurt. Yeah, really good
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: rookie season. Now his problem is lack of juice.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was having a good year. I just couldn't
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: with with the lack of games played.
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: I couldn't. Yeah, you couldn't do it, faith say he was.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: Better than Barkley. Even a down here for Barkley was
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: still pretty good. Yeah.
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: Well it's when you say down, it's it's the number.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: Drop is just obviously it was going to be big anyway.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: Help it was the question. But so, yeah, you gave
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: me six to four. Oh is that say six? Yeah?
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: Six six four?
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you won, So with that being said, we're going
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: to get into now the East NFC East our offensive draft,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: and I decided that I was going to do it
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: to decide who gets to pick with a virtual coin flipper. Okay,
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: here we are.
• 11:56
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• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Call ahead, so I'll flip again.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: And that is tails hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: fun with this, all right. So again, like in the
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: past years, I would be drafting. I think like Jason
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Kelcey if it was if you're still playing, or Leian Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: But I kind of feel comfortable with offensive line depth
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: and center depth. I'm just gonna go best player available here.
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  Speaker 1: In my opinion, I even feel comfortable with a couple
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: of the running backs and qbs. So in round one,
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: pick one, I'm gonna take Ceedee.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Lamb oh boy. Okay, okay over a quarterback. Interesting, okay,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: but you can't get wrong. He's if you're looking for production.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: He said, he beats man coverage very well, very unerrating aspect.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: He's fine against his own He's just that nobody puts
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: up numbers like he does, correct correct, very like.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: The thing about Pickens is and I know it's a
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: contract year for him, so it'll probably be even more motivated,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: and he's so explosive. I just wanted to go with,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: like it's your number one. Pickens also has some like
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: you know, there's always some characters. There's games where people
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: think he gives I just wanted to go with the
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: guy I know is going to get me one hundred
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: and thirty catches of twelve hundred yards, you know, double
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: digit touchdowns and is basically undefendable except when he plays
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: the Eagles and drops a bunch of passes.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: That when that game was crazy at Philly, he had
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: four or five drops. It was insane or they would
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: have probably won that game. I killed them in that game.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: So all right, my pick in one oh two. It's quarterback.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: It's the most important position, and a professional sports goalie
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: probably second. Okay, it's hurts for Prescott to me. Jackson
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: darts as an athlete who needs to be more consistent.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Jane Daniels needs to continue to fill out that body.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Elite is a rookie took a step back last season.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: It's because of injury mostly and they needed to help
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: him with their past target group. So it's down a
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Hurts in Prescott. I'm trying to win a super Bowl
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: with the team that I draft this year. MS optimistic
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: as I am, and I may be the minority that
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Hurts is going to get this offense. I know what
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I'm getting from Dak Okay. I know he's got a
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: worst injury history that's well documented. He's older, but he
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: puts up numbers year two with Brian Schottenheimer shot, He's
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: an aggressive play caller. I'm feeling good about this. I'm
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: taking Dak. I get it.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Like you said, most important position, Dak Prescott one O two.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: So then you are going to pick again at one
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: three and fill out your roster.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Boy, oh boy, oh boy. Then see this is this
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: is where it gets hard. This is where it gets
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: hard because the drop off at receiver of obviously is
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: going to be significant because nobody's close as productive as
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Cde Lamb sure very high on DeVante Smith to be
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: that the Eagles number one pass target I'm looking over
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: the other positions on the offensive line because of Lane.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Lane's age and what happened last year with him and
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the left tackle group is fascinating. Of look at that
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: tight end as much as it's deep anyway, you don't
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: need to do anything here, which Parclay are we going
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: to get? You know, he's twenty nine now, which he
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: turned in February. So to me, folks, I'm going with
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: the best player available. It's close to me. It's close
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: for me. Pickens, you outline it. You and I see
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: him the same way. If I just knew he could
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: give me seventeen consistent games, it's not even close of
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: taking him. I don't trust him. I know what happened
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh very well. Talking to folks there. They couldn't
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: wait till he was gone. They could, They just couldn't
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: trust him. Didn't know what they were getting. I could
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: imagine whate to be like to coach him. I have
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: no idea because he's super gifted. But I'm taking the
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: guy who's been the most consistent player out of all
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: the players available every position that's left. It's Davante Smith.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: He is he is. Look, I'm could have I gone
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: for a left tackle, sure, sure, which is more valuable position,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: But the drop off after Davante Smith because of Pickens
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: inconsistency too much for me. I know what I'm getting
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: from Davante. Hey, the man, I'm doing it. I'm taking
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: him here.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I like it. I got no beef with it. I
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a huge year from a target standpoint.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: You know he's gonna have a huge year from a
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: target standpoint, So I think it makes a lot of sense.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Now I'm going to strategize a little bit year as
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I finished off the second round and took Dak Prescott.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: So you know, I'm I'm gonna take Jalen Hurts at
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: some point because you're not gonna take a second quarter. Yeah,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: So I don't have to go chase Hurts right now,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to do something that you're you did
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: with DeVante Smith, which is sort of bank on the
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: offense at least being better than last year and players improving.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: It may not be exactly what we wanted to be,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: but I am still thinking, although I like the running
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: back depth better, that it's still Barkley by more than
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Javonte Williams. Because I would like to see Javonte Williams
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: try to do that back to back years. He might be,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: he might be, but I know what I'm getting with Saquon,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and I just don't like the depth after Barkley and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Williams anyway.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: After Barclay, there's such a disparity. You're absolutely right, it's
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: but it's the value of the position. Sure, so we moved,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: but you're you're he'll be. He's gonna be better last year
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: and their line will be healthier. Right at two at two?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Actually three? Oh wait, you picked two players here, right,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I think again?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: So that was one o four. Sorry, that was two four.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: We did two oh three, two four. Now it's three
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: oh five. I am going to I think I have
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to address the offensive line here because I like the
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: wide receiver depth like some tight ends. So I am
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: going to take a guy that we already talked about
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and how special he's already proven to be after a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: four years, a couple of years, despite the question marks
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: about him. I'm going for sure things here at him.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I'm taking the left guard Tyler Smith.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Wow, Tyler Smith. I mean he's a stud. He's just yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Look, I mean this was this was ordinarily we'd be
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: like Lane Johnson, Lane Johns, but he was hurt a
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: lot last year and he's getting older, and you know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I just don't know right now, and I think there
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: are some other decent enough right tackles. I'll be comfortable
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: without it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: But well, I think I played my board right here
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: because there's no way in how you're taking you would
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: have taken pickens because you're ready at CD they kind
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: of this is in fantasy I you never want to
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: have two receivers from the same team. You just don't
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: because it's very rare that both are great in the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: same year. It happens, but it doesn't happen a lot. Yeah,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: it would be disparity. Usually sometimes it's smaller. Sometimes it's
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: a way it's bigger, like in Seattle. But uh, right
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: here with what my my fourth round? Here my fourth first.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Pick the end of the third round. This is three oh.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Six six, Okay, Okay, I'm gonna go with pickings here,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: contract here, you said it. He's got everything to play for,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be motivated, he's he puts, he's gonna he's
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: unbelievably gifted. One of the most gifted receivers in the
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: National Football League. Sure is George Pickens, So I'm going
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, So that brings us to your first pick in
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the fourth round for oh seven, you're gonna uh, You're
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: gonna like, you know, be like the Eagles here and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: start to address your offensive trenches or what.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm going with the best left tackle in
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: this division. That's it could have been Andrew Thomas, but
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: he just can't stay on the field enough. My Lotta
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: is a good player. Jordan Mylott has been an unbelievable
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: story development, but he's not in Laramie Tunsel's class.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: That's correct.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Texans foolish to trade him. For the life of me,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I'll never understand that they it is good of a
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: roster as they've put together. They're not. They've never been
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: good enough on the offensive line and they never will
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: be because they don't. They don't get it. That's why
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: they're not gonna win a Super Bowl. I'm going with
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Laramie Tunsel here. He's an absolute stud.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Good pick. All right, he served you well last year
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: he won that category by having him. All Right, I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: am going to now shift. I was thinking about doing
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: offensive line again, but now you've got Pickens and now
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you've got DeVante Smith, and I could wait on receiver,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: although you could draft the third receiver and really screw me. Yeah,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you could certainly play I mean that's what we've been
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: doing eleven personnel. So you kind of forced my hand
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: to go with a receiver. And now I have to
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: figure out do I want an aging Terry McLaurin. Do
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I want a Milik neighbors who may miss the first
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: few weeks of the season. Do I want Slate new Sporadic?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Do I want Lemon or Adam? Do I want to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: play twelve personnel because I don't like the options here
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: that you're giving me. At wide receiver. That is something
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I could do. I could go two receivers and two
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: tight ends if I want to. I'm gonna think about
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: this one. I'm what I'm gonna do, though, is going
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: to figure that McLaurin is going to bounce back from
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: last year. He's generally been a thousand yard receiver every
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: year until last year. Remember last year he held out
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: or held in, then held out, and then it took
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: a while and then you know, for aging guys like that,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: sometimes when you don't get all your spring and training
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: camp practice. This is in you get hurt, and that's
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: what happened. So I'm going to bank on a bounce
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: back for him because I really I don't like what
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: we got at wide receiver left. So I'm going Terry
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: mcclaurin to finish out the fourth round and then to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: start the fifth round. I'm still trying to get the
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: best players available here. I'm gonna go Lane Johnson and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: right tackle. I think that this is a big gamble
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: for me. But if he stays healthy, I win the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: category easily in my opinion. If he doesn't stay healthy,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: then it's anybody's game from there.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, taking Lane Johnson, all right, I'm up for two.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Yep, you are up for two.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Boy. I go wait on a running back because you
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: want with Barkley.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Right now, you need running back, tight end, a third receiver,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and I want that if you want that. Yeah, a
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: right tackle. You have no guards and no center.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, all right, I'm gonna go with Josh Connelly,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: who was elite as a rookie right tackle. Yeah, there's
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: my right tackle. If you didn't take Lane, I was
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: probably leaning towards him. I just feel like this will
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: be it, this will be his last great year.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: It's just got feeling because you know, how could you
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: know it's someone who's in his mid thirties. But yeah,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: feeling good about Lane bouncing back. But Josh Connelly, the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: only one year was his rookie season. But he was
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: phenomenal as a rookie. And now my next pick I got,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I got my bookend tackles Tunsil and Connelly. I need
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a guard or two. I need two guards the center.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I could wait. They're not great. Hmmm mm hmmmm. I'm
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: gonna do this, okay, because we because we don't know
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: when Neighbors is gonna come back. Uh huh oh, I'm
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: trying to talk myself out of something. Uh yeah, he
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: took McLaurin pickings and Lamb are gone. You know what, Actually,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take as my third receiver. I'm gonna take
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Neighbors and it's okay, he's gonna be my three great
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: give me still, give me a thousand yards. I mean
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: it's a landslide. See if you only misses two or three.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: You know he had the issues. He had a follow
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: up procedure. Yeah, and that that's why there's a question,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: major question whether he's gonna be available early in the season.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: So sorry, yeah, nine hundred thousand years, I'll be fine,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: So you end the fifth round with Josh Connelly as
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: your right tackle. You start the sixth round of Milak
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Neighbors as your third wide receiver, and that's a man.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: You got Davonte Smith, George Pickens and Milak Neighbors. That's
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough for me when we you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: a year from now. I'm thinking that's gonna be tough
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: for me to win that category. But I just got
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to get stronger in other categories. So what I'm gonna
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: do is I'm going to take and hope he stays healthy.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: You kind of like with Neighbors, right, just upside Uh,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my left tackle and go with Andrew
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Howard here from the Giants. I'm sorry, Andrew Howard were
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: actually big Eagles fan by the way. Yeah, Andrew Thomas
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: will be my left tackle, So I kind of like
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: that I have the two best tackles in the division.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: As long as you're healthy and Thomas and mean, that
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: could be huge for me. So that will end Round
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: six and I will start Round seven with.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: HM.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: This one's tough. But you know, I'm sort of caught
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: between tight ends here. I won on Ferguson over got her,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: but got Her had a lot of touchdowns. And I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: think this offense is good for the Eagles will be
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: more more tight end centric this year, more space centric.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna to go. I can't have this many cowboys.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go got It as my tight end.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I'm just gonna go. I think I
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: think this is gonna wind up being a very questionable
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: pick for me. Yeah, if I'm being honest here, But
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it, all right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I am up for two Yep. I need a guard,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: or actually I need two guards.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: You need to Yeah, I'm gonna go with a running
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: back and a tight end yep.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Later I'm gonna go with Tyler Booker nice
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and then Sam Cosmy.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Oh going back to back guards.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I needed it because running back. You don't
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: need a running back tight end. There are plenty left
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: mm hmm. He's not worried about it. There there's there's
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: We also need a center.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Center, yeah, both of us, both of us need to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: which is you did that? Okay, so you went Booker
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and cos me. Look, I'm just gonna grab my center
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: right now, and I am again banking on a bounce back.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jurgons. I know BB had the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: better year last year. Jurgons went healthier, is the better player.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Let's just hope for Eagles fans sake that he continues
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to be or gets back to being that guy. So
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I go with Cam Jurgens to end the eighth round.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: By the way, it would be funny if he bounces
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: back like you're hoping and he has a great year
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: and he doesn't make the Pro Bawl, you go, wait
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: a minute, it was last year. Let's be honest. He struggled,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: he could, he could barely bend down. He was hurt.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Wasn't because he lost his his skill. He was hurt
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: then he if you said you're backing on he bounces back,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: looks like the Cam Durggons of all and he doesn't
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: make the player, It doesn't make the Pro Bowl. That's
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the way it works anyway.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: That is correct? All right? With my next pick at him,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little bit. I'm gonna get a
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: little bit fancy, all right, because I still need a
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: number three.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Receiver, know where you go.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: My choice is either mckhai lemon, the rookie who I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: just don't know what to expect. Or my choice could
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: be Darius Slayton. It could be I don't know at
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: this point, you know, like Dontavian Wicks. But I'm not
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: going to do that. I'm actually I'm going to take
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Ferguson and team him with Goddard and give myself twelve personnel.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna I just feel like Ferguson is
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: a more sure thing to get seven to eight hundred
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: yards and any of these other receivers left. So I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: might have the slow, deliberate offense, but I think it's
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: going to.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Be the case.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, seventeen, so you're up for nine,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: eighteen and ten nineteen.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, So Javonta Williams, I just don't see him repeating
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the success he'll get. He's going to get the goal
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: line touches again, that's for sure. Sure, but his yards
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: per carry number was so high. He's just something that
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: explosive their line kicked ass. It helps. You've got you're
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: able to spread people out. You've got you've got ferguson
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the two excellent receivers floor floor nois not bad. Number
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: three NFL receiver. But in my situation, I'm moving away
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: from Dallas. I need a running back. Kim Scataboo coming
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: back from his massive injury. But he's healthy. So I
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: was told the Super Bowl he'll be fine for training
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: camp and all everything I've heard has been good. He's versatile.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I'll take him here.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Oh nice, okay, there good? Yeah, So you are you
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: are going to take Kim Scantaboo all.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Right, yep, yep over Tomante Williams. It's a little cauestionable,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: but I'm this Gervonti Willams is not coming back from
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: an injury. And then after that, take my tight end,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Likely, who's brought in because obviously the head coach
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: made the call. All he coached him. John hob John
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Harble has significant saying personnel gets one of his, gets
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: one of his guys here, they're gonna play plenty of
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: twelve personnel. I say, Likely is that guy.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: That's a good one, and yeah, familiar with the scheme.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: It's funny. I thought you were almost talking yourself out
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: of taking camp scataboo when you said it was he's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: not an explosive. The numbers were in.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: A first of all. But oh no, he's gonna get
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: run it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Like a Knick single, not a Nick singleton, a Kate
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: tron Allen or something some out of your hat there.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: No, Okay, good job, all right, but dr Corey Krafsky
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: marrit Or Bill, Yes.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: That's right, all right. So I get to finish off
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: my draft. I need a guard, uh and a quarterback,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: so I am. I'm gonna go out on a limb
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: here at guard a little bit. I think this guy
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: is gonna wind up being a stud, and I just
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: don't want to go average, right. I don't want to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: go Tyler Steen or or run and I want to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: go Giants. First round pick Francis Mawi noah, because as
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: many stouts told me, they thought he would be an
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: absolute all pro if they moved him inside and played
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: him at guard. So we've seen offensive him have success
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a year one. That's not hard for the plug him
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: in there, right, And then I'm gonna finish off my
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: draft with my quarterback, and that's gonna be Jalen Hurts.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: So that my draft is finished, and now you have
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to finish yours with your center.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: That'll be Cooper not Don Beebe for the Dallas Cowboys.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: All right, yeah, all.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Right, So let's recap it real quick. Your team, your
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: quarterback is Dak Prescott. Your running back is Camp Scaboo.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Your three wide receivers are Davante Smith, George Pickens, and
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Milik Neighbors. Who boom, that's some firepower there, my.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Fini, that's insane. If Neighbors plays like twelve games or more.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Look out right, your tight ends Isaiah Likely and your
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: offensive line from left to right is Laramie Tunsel, Tyler Booker,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Cooper Bebe, Sam Cosmi, and Josh Connery. Good job, all right.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: My team, mike back is Hurts, My running back is Saquon.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: My twelve personnel firepower is Ceedee Lamb and Terry McLaurin,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: with Goddard and Jake Ferguson as my two tight ends.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Pretty good, it's pretty good.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: It's okay. I think you're gonna wind up winning the
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: playmaker category because you're I mean, Milik Neighbors compared to
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: like Jake Ferguson, come on, you know, as long as
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's gonna blow them waististically. But I do
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: love my offensive line with Andrew Thomas at left tackle,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Tyler Smith left guard, Cam Jurgen center, Francis Mauiinoa right guard,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and Lane Johnson at right town.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: You have a lot of questions, injury questions. What you have?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: It's you got two guys and Jurgens and Johnson are
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: coming off major problems with injury.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Oh four of my five guy Andrew Andrew Thomas, Hello, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: this is a boomer bust offensive line. Yeah, that's all right.
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  Speaker 1: That is gonna do it. In the next podcast, we'll
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  Speaker 1: do the defense. I'm not gonna have as many visuals
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  Speaker 1: and stuff because you know, there's no points in you know,
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  Speaker 1: other than like tackles and sacks, but we'll have fun
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  Speaker 1: with it anyway. This has been the offense fantasy draft
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  Speaker 1: of the NFC East, and that's going to do it
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  Speaker 1: for this episode of Inside the Birds, the Leading podcasts
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  Speaker 1: and Eagles Intel, and as always, we thank you for
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