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The Late Debate | 16 July · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome the late Plase. Good evening and thanks for joining
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  Speaker 1: us on. I'm James macpherson with Joe Hildebrand and the brilliant,
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  Speaker 1: wonderful Nika did George, I'm compensating the last night's introduction.
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  Speaker 2: We thank you. That's very kind.
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  Speaker 3: The bitter that that was the sort of introduction that
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  Speaker 3: I would expect on a nightly basis.
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  Speaker 4: James, not sporadically, you are literally brilliant in that jumpsuit.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that is that is like so much. Was
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  Speaker 4: there a particular name for that shade of red? Because
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  Speaker 4: it feels electric, quite bright, whelming, literally brilliant. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like I should be wearing sunglasses.
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, thank you for the compliments, gents, but I
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  Speaker 3: actually think that the one who deserves a compliment tonight
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  Speaker 3: is James McPherson, who would have to be the artist
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  Speaker 3: working bloke on the channel this evening at.
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  Speaker 2: A double shift.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I filled in for Caleb who was unwell at
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  Speaker 1: eight o'clock, but I had the pleasure of having you
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  Speaker 1: on the panel.
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  Speaker 4: Go, that's exactly right, and then we thought that that
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  Speaker 4: was just the dress rehearsal. We'll do it properly this
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  Speaker 4: time round and don't forget half of the show. Make
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  Speaker 4: sure you tuned in for the Read a Penny Show
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  Speaker 4: with James McPherson and Year's Night.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's get into the late debate. Here's what's coming
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  Speaker 1: up tonight and the Albert Easy breaks another promise, this
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  Speaker 1: time to Indigenous people, and just wait until you hear
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  Speaker 1: his latest excuse. Speaking of Indigenous people, an Indigenous elder
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  Speaker 1: claims he was told to delete his statement on social
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  Speaker 1: media that welfare dependency was the biggest killer of Aboriginal people,
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  Speaker 1: and Scotland Greens are investigating a transgendered university employee, also
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  Speaker 1: a Greens party member who posted online that he hoped
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  Speaker 1: murdered Conservative politician Anne Whitcombe suffered an agonizing death. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to all of that shortly, but first, every parent
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  Speaker 1: knows what it's like when you warn your children there
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  Speaker 1: will be consequences if they don't cut out their bad behavior,
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  Speaker 1: and they decide to test your resolve. Well, a fed
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  Speaker 1: up father has boasted online that he taught his disobedient
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  Speaker 1: son a lesson by proving consequences were not idle threats.
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  Speaker 1: He threw his son's computer game out of the car window.
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  Speaker 5: He threw my son's intental switch up the car by son.
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  Speaker 5: He's thirteen year his mill. He wasn't even playing the switch.
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  Speaker 5: You've just had it. I was like, keep going, I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna throw your switch out the window. He's like, no,
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  Speaker 5: you're not, grab it. Gone, that's frisbee this thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it felt pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: So some people have applauded dad for teaching his son
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  Speaker 1: bad behavior has consequences, but just as many have slammed
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  Speaker 1: him for humiliating his child. Denika, you would have been
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  Speaker 1: in trouble all the time as an only child. So
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  Speaker 1: is this poor parenting or an example that we should
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  Speaker 1: all follow.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's actually an example of great parenting. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if the kids being a little bugger and isn't paying attention,
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  Speaker 3: isn't following.
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  Speaker 2: Direction, and you know, Dad said, deal with.
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  Speaker 3: The consequences if you don't, if you don't behave, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm going.
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  Speaker 2: To take away your playstay or your controller. Kids are smart.
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  Speaker 2: They know when you're joking.
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  Speaker 3: They can absolutely manipulate the situation. So Dad throws it
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  Speaker 3: out the window and teaches the kid a lesson. I
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  Speaker 3: don't see what the problem with that is. This article
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  Speaker 3: described it as an extreme level of parenting.
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  Speaker 2: That's not extreme to me.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's just basic disciplinary action. I think, and
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  Speaker 3: you'd also said in that article I had to laugh
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  Speaker 3: that an American father took his young daughter to a
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  Speaker 3: police station after she found out after the father found
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  Speaker 3: out that she was bullying a peer. Now, I guarantee
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  Speaker 3: you that kid never bullied a peer ever again, because
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  Speaker 3: sometimes you just got to frighten kids a little bit
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  Speaker 3: and they won't argue, so no good on him.
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  Speaker 4: I threatened to smash my kid's computer, mobile, phone, PlayStation,
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  Speaker 4: Nintendo switch where you name it all the time, every
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  Speaker 4: day and have never once followed through. And I stand
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  Speaker 4: by that because I actually I find this really disturbing.
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  Speaker 4: To be honest. I think it's it's aggressive behavior. I
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  Speaker 4: think it shows your son that you have poor impulse control.
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  Speaker 4: It's also littering. Have we thought about that? You thought
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  Speaker 4: about that? I'll tell you one thing about one biodegradable
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  Speaker 4: And I think instead of having you know and again
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  Speaker 4: and posting about on social media what a dick move,
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  Speaker 4: you know it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not that bad.
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  Speaker 3: I think he was just explaining, well, we just got
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  Speaker 3: to we can't be tiptoeing.
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  Speaker 2: Around you know, the snowflake brigadon.
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  Speaker 4: Why did he have to post it on social media?
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  Speaker 2: Why not? I mean, he probably just wanted to share
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  Speaker 2: his frustration with other parents.
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  Speaker 4: Well, apparently there is a whole sort of trend going
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  Speaker 4: on where parents do try to sort of out extreme
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  Speaker 4: each other or talk about the latest sort of hardcore
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  Speaker 4: parenting move they pulled. So I actually reckon the parents
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  Speaker 4: as a as addicted to screens and technology as they
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  Speaker 4: complain the kids are and b immature and if possibly
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  Speaker 4: actually overreacting to their kid, traumatizing their kids just so
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  Speaker 4: they can.
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  Speaker 3: It's just discipline. It's saying, don't do that. And he
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  Speaker 3: called his kid a little effer.
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  Speaker 2: If the kid's teach the kid a lesson.
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  Speaker 4: Having your dad call you a little fer in the
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  Speaker 4: public domain for the.
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  Speaker 2: Rest of it in a public domain.
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  Speaker 3: I do agree with that, that is, you don't do
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  Speaker 3: things like that. That I agree with, But that the
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  Speaker 3: act of throwing out the console.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a problem.
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  Speaker 1: My problem with that. First he posts online, I think
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  Speaker 1: that says something about the dad. Second, he calls his
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  Speaker 1: son a little effer. If you can't control your words,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to control the rest of your behavior.
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  Speaker 1: As the father, you're trying to teach your son self discipline,
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  Speaker 1: maybe exercise a little yourself. I reckon the key to
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  Speaker 1: disciplining kids is don't discipline them in the heat of
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  Speaker 1: the moment. I used to tell my boys, when you
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  Speaker 1: get home, we will go to your room and we
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  Speaker 1: will deal with this. And they knew what that meant.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be a snack and they will tell you to
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  Speaker 1: this day. The half hour drive home expecting what was
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  Speaker 1: going to come, that was like worst punishment.
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  Speaker 4: For They've made me scared. What do you do now
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  Speaker 4: they're bigger than you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they smacked me now, But you're right, Joe, You've
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  Speaker 1: got to follow through. That's that's the other things fine through.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a.
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  Speaker 4: Difference between being strict and being firm and not being
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  Speaker 4: in control. And this guy looks to me like a
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  Speaker 4: douchebag who's not in control.
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  Speaker 1: I made of mine when I was growing up, he
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  Speaker 1: stole some magazines from a news agency and so he
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  Speaker 1: was caught and so they held him there. It's only
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  Speaker 1: about eleven years old at the time.
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  Speaker 4: What sort of magazines are we talking?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was TV Week and so anyway, the
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  Speaker 1: news agent rang my mate's mum and said, we've got
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  Speaker 1: your son here. We caught him shoplifting. Will you come
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  Speaker 1: and collect him? And my mate's mum said, have you
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  Speaker 1: called the police and they said no, we're calling you,
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  Speaker 1: and she said, well, I will get there after the
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  Speaker 1: police have dealt with him. Let me know and I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you what. He never stole anything ever.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes I'm not saying to really put the
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  Speaker 3: fear of God in a child, but sometimes you've just
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  Speaker 3: got to push the push it a little bit to
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  Speaker 3: make them scared enough that they're not going to make
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  Speaker 3: the same mistakes again. So I applaud that mother because
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  Speaker 3: that kid will never ever shoplift ever again in his life.
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  Speaker 1: I've met your parents who are delightful, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: they're watching the program. I can't imagine that you would
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  Speaker 1: ever have been in trouble at home because your parents
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  Speaker 1: you're the apple of their eye and the I just
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine you're doing bad stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Look, there was one year at Christmas I only got
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  Speaker 3: one Christmas gift from Santa because I was.
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  Speaker 2: Very naughty that year.
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  Speaker 3: And I tell you this, I was never naughty again
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  Speaker 3: because I only got one gift.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, so there is a least true.
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  Speaker 2: It's true.
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  Speaker 1: This is last year.
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  Speaker 2: This is absolutely last year. This last year. But yeah again,
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  Speaker 2: like I.
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  Speaker 4: Remember that very Nintendo switch because it may not.
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  Speaker 2: End well, no, it was probably a Barbie dollhouse.
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  Speaker 3: It come on, Barbie's come on, I'm a gowl over here, Joe,
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  Speaker 3: what are you saying.
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  Speaker 4: That's the other thing. Switches are really not to be
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  Speaker 4: boring and return to the actual topic. But the switches
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  Speaker 4: are expensive, Like the new one's like seven hundred bucks.
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  Speaker 2: Seven hundred.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so this one was four hundred and fifty or something.
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  Speaker 4: That might be American And if that's the new one,
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  Speaker 4: that'd be about seven hundred. That's just it. It's a
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  Speaker 4: waste of money. And did I mention the littering. It's littering.
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  Speaker 1: You did mention that although someone else got a free
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  Speaker 1: Nintendo switch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's it. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Look, somebody who's well upset a lot of people would
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  Speaker 3: be Anthony Albanese, I know, Prime Minister for something different.
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  Speaker 3: He's upset a lot of people at home. This is
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  Speaker 3: because of another broken promise by Anthony Albanesi. Now, he
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  Speaker 3: declared last year that he would attend the indigenous culture
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  Speaker 3: gathering that is the Garma Festival over in arnham Land
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  Speaker 3: every single year while he is Prime Minister. But just
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  Speaker 3: twelve months after that promise, he's now declared that he
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  Speaker 3: will not be going to this year's Garma Festival.
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  Speaker 2: Why well, in his own words.
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  Speaker 6: Had a day off all year, all year, Jeeves.
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  Speaker 2: And here I thought, you know, his word was his bond.
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  Speaker 2: I just stuck.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe he's broken that promise. So basically he's saying,
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  Speaker 3: I haven't had a day off in a year. I
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  Speaker 3: haven't had a day off this year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little bit exhausted.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to be able to travel to the
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  Speaker 3: Garma Festival this year.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what it reminds me of.
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  Speaker 3: It reminds me of some of his classic other commentary
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  Speaker 3: like I was in the car, I didn't hear that
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  Speaker 3: what I was in Melbourne, So I haven't been able
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  Speaker 3: to deal with that. It also reminds me about two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five dollars in power bill relief that
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  Speaker 3: we were promising. And what about the taxes, the taxes
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  Speaker 3: and negative gearing. No, that's all broken promises as well. Look,
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Garbaneese. You gonna have to explain it, aren't you
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  Speaker 3: to the indigenous festival yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's obviously going to go back. He's going
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  Speaker 4: to some other indigenous events and I think another indigenous
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  Speaker 4: festival in the Northern Territory in a few days time.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know why he went out of his
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  Speaker 4: way to say I promise here and now, in front
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  Speaker 4: of all these cameras that I will return every single year.
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  Speaker 1: And then, oh, I think I can tell you why.
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  Speaker 1: But I care about Indigenous people, not like the other mob.
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  Speaker 1: I'm one of you. I've got your back until it's
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  Speaker 1: not convenient to them.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it is a fair point that politicians
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  Speaker 4: work like absolute dogs, that whatever's striped politics. Maybe with
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  Speaker 4: some exceptions, but generally speaking, and he especially, I know,
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  Speaker 4: works incredibly hard. Like you don't have any weekends. You're
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  Speaker 4: doing something every night, you're up all hours talking to
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  Speaker 4: other foreign leaders or welcome welcoming foreign dignitaries. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's a pretty I mean, I know they get a
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  Speaker 4: bit of coin for it, but jeez, they work hard.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't he have scheduled his time off around the Gama festival,
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  Speaker 3: given that he promised that he would. I mean, he
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  Speaker 3: could have taken a couple of days off a week after.
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  Speaker 3: He could have taken a couple of days off a
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  Speaker 3: week earlier.
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  Speaker 4: I had his ea. There was a scheduling mix up.
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  Speaker 4: You know, maybe maybe.
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  Speaker 3: It's hoped to be a scheduling mix up. He's known
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  Speaker 3: about the Garma Festival for months.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how kind of offensive that he said, Look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be at the Garma Festival, which
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  Speaker 1: I promised to be at, but you know, I met
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  Speaker 1: another indigenous festival. It's almost like, you know, they're all
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  Speaker 1: kind of the same. Is that not a lot?
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  Speaker 4: To be honest? I think it's more that he has
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  Speaker 4: to go to these other things in the Northern Territory.
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  Speaker 4: It's what an eight hour plane trip to get there.
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  Speaker 4: It's a long while and wae not add but it's
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  Speaker 4: a long way. And if he's already doing it for
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  Speaker 4: all these other things, I think he probably figured that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, making three trips or whatever it is in
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  Speaker 4: a week is maybe a bit march.
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  Speaker 2: But you had time to do a podcast though.
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  Speaker 4: Oh with the bush Deep Lady, he worked out well.
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  Speaker 1: Probably wishes that he did.
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  Speaker 4: He couldn't gone to the actual bush.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, or he could have come back from Fiji
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  Speaker 3: and taken a couple of days off then after his work.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you that politicians work hard, and you
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  Speaker 1: don't bludge anybody having a holiday. At the same time,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that many people would hear Anthony alban
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  Speaker 1: Easy complain I haven't had a day off all year,
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  Speaker 1: and they'd hear that and all of a sudden feel
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  Speaker 1: incredibly sympathetic, especially the way the country is going. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: take your days off and have your holidays and enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: We don't begrudge it. But no need to tell us
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  Speaker 1: how hard you work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, Speaking of holidays, Pauline Hansen remains on her little
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  Speaker 3: overseas jaunt. Of course, she's just been doing her tour
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  Speaker 3: of the UK, visiting places like Luton, and she thought, well,
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  Speaker 3: I've had enough of Luton, so I'm going to head
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  Speaker 3: to Sicily, where she's gone to the beautiful Talmina at
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  Speaker 3: a luxury resort. Actually she's there with mining magnate Gina
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: ryan Hart. I guess it begs the question is it
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  Speaker 3: time for Pauline Hanson to come home? Because she's been
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  Speaker 3: away for a couple of weeks now there has been
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  Speaker 3: some polling that has suggested that she is dipping a
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  Speaker 3: little bit in the poles.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, dipping a little bit in that pool just there.
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  Speaker 2: She's well, look, she's in Tarmina. That's what you do,
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  Speaker 2: I suppose you.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be more worried about the fact that she's for
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  Speaker 4: the first time overtaken labor among blue collar voters. And
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  Speaker 4: then you've got pictures of her in Sicily at a
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  Speaker 4: five star resort with the richest woman in Australia. Doesn't
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  Speaker 4: exactly scream working class hero to me.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's time for Pauline probably to come home.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure people judge that harshly. Maybe they do, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: but I think people appreciate, you know what, you can
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  Speaker 1: stand up for the working class and be well enough,
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  Speaker 1: well well off enough to enjoy a luxury holiday the
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  Speaker 1: two and not.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's true. And I think often when the
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  Speaker 4: left not we say the fact that I just sort
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  Speaker 4: of made the same point, but the left often mistakes
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  Speaker 4: like I think people look at that and say, I
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  Speaker 4: don't care if she's hanging out with billionaires. I just
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  Speaker 4: want to know what she's going to do for me.
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  Speaker 4: And again we've seen the exact same phenomenon with Donald
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  Speaker 4: Trump in the US. But again I still don't think
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  Speaker 4: it is the I mean, that is the thing that
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  Speaker 4: most people are sort of talking about and thinking about
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  Speaker 4: right now. And you know, you've got Malcolm Roberts, you know,
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  Speaker 4: shooting off at the hip about Kem trails and and
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  Speaker 4: liking you know, anti Semitic murals and stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and we say, oh, where's the leader in all this?
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  Speaker 4: It's a bit like when the network goes down and tells, oh,
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  Speaker 4: where's the tells your letter she's off jet setting or anything.
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  Speaker 4: So it's not necessarily that people, you know, envy what
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  Speaker 4: she's got or say I don't like her because she's
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  Speaker 4: hanging out with billionaires. It's more, look the joints falling down.
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  Speaker 4: The party's tanking or not panking, but it's dipping in
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  Speaker 4: the piles that's probably peaked and maybe going backwards. There's
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  Speaker 4: a whole lot of scrutiny being applied to you know,
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  Speaker 4: all the antics. You've got allies like Andrew Bolt now
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  Speaker 4: saying what the hell is going on and say, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: where's Paul Lene, where's going to fix it. She's off
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  Speaker 4: at a five star resort in Sicily. It's Gena rein Hart.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what her UK trip has achieved for Australians.
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  Speaker 1: It's great she's getting some tips from Nigel Farage. I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand why you can't do that just subtly and
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  Speaker 1: quietly without doing a whole tour of the UK, which
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: most Aussie voters would say, how does this GOP?
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  Speaker 2: I disagree.
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  Speaker 3: I disagree because her angle is I don't want Australia
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  Speaker 3: to become like the UK, and so now she can
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: come back to Australia with a whole selling point of
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I've toured the places that have apparently been you know,
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Islam suffered with Islamification, like luten for example, and she
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: can give you examples of this is what I witnessed.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want Australia to come to become this, so
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  Speaker 2: I think. So it does play to her bass.
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  Speaker 3: I do think, because there are a lot of her
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  Speaker 3: base that I very very worried as the problem.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: You're playing to your base like your base are with you, right, Yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: I know that playing to the people who are on
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the fence and trying to work out does she have
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: good judgment. Is this a person that could seriously run
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: the country. Can she pull together a team who are
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: disciplined and stay in their lanes. But I think those
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: are the questions were ask.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Her, like she's going down the partway of Nigel Farage,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: because that's how Niger Farage gained his popularity.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Doesn't like Tony Robinson.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Tommy Robinson.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: By going out to these areas, speaking to people and
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: having the guardsmen. Don't forget that Niger Farrag was the
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: one who was on a dingy in the middle of
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: dover looking.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: At him, condemned Tommy Robinson.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Because I'm not talking about Tommy Robinson. And I'm not
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: talking about Tommy Robinson. I'm talking about when he goes
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: out to the I mean, I feel like Pauline would
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: go out on a dinghy in the middle of.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: The line actually hanging out with Tommy Robinson.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Tommy Robinson. I'm just what it was.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: More to James's point, why is she doing this?
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I just think that it just follows a trajectory of
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: leaders like Niger Farrage, where they do these big, bold things.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: It gets a reaction.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: It gets people talking and it does play to the back.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: I think Niger Farrage gets to where he is by
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: showing that there is a line and having the discipline
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: not to go over it.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Well, while Pauline Hanson is oversees the Liberals back home
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: talking about themselves again, I thought that's stopped. But no, no.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: An internal paper that's been distributed to Liberal Party members
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: during the week proposes that the way they could become
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: more electorally palatable would be by getting more women into
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the party, and so the issue of gender quotas has
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: raised its head again. The Liberal discussion paper says, and
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I quote, if it's necessary, if it's increasingly clear that
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: if serious progress is to be made in delivering greater
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: gender balance in our parliamentary team, additional measures will be required.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: None of them would be easier or without complication or
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: resistance from some However, if we want a different outcome,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: we need to be prepared to do things differently. Well,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: some of the resistance is coming from the Liberal leader
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Angus Taylor. Is what he had to say about gender
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: quotas today.
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: I've never supported any quote at all, but what I
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: do support, what I do support is more great people
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: joining the Liberal Party, and more great people women and
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: from all sorts of backgrounds.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I have long believed.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: That we have to rebuild our parties.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: There's an enormous amount of work to do.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: I welcome the work of the Commission, and I strongly
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: support that regeneration rebuild of the party that we need.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: So this is my problem with the coalition. They can't
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: stay on one topic for more than thirty seconds before
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: they're distracted by something. So last I heard from Angus Taylor.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: He was attacking Pauline Hanson and One Nation. Right. You
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: can argue whether or not that was smart, but that's
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: what he decided to do and that's what was getting
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: him headlines. You know, one Nation will be an eternity
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: of pain if you elect them to run the government.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: So that was his line. Well thirty seconds later, now
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: they're discussing gender quotas within the Liberal Party. They just
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: can't stay on script.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: No, But I feel like that's come from the moderates
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: of the party. I don't know where they've They've thought,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: you know what, we're just going to pop out gender
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: quotas right now, because that, you know, is that the mood.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Of the party. No, they failed to read the.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Room once James McGrath was the person who was heading
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: up the development of this internal discussion.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Exactly a moderate, a moderate.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: And also a coalition figure.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Which is such a shame really because you're right, once again,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: the focus is on them. As a woman, I can't
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: tell you how offensive the prospect of being selected just
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: because you're a woman actually is not based on merit,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: not because you're the right person for the job, not
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: because you deserve to be there.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: And it's not only it actually discriminates against men. To
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: be honest, I think as a male.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know what your view on it is, but
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: it also says that a woman needs help to achieve
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: her goals, a woman needs help to achieve success. Whatever
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: happened to just go getters? Have ever happened to women
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: with a drive? And there are so many women out
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: there with that drive, and yet the Liberal Party are
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: going down this bizarre left pathway, not getting back to
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: their core principles that Menzies put in play for the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Liberal Party. And I just think it's such a shame
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: that we're talking about this yet again.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: How many times has it been brought up?
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, I agree that you do need to get more
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: women into the party, but a lot of that you
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: can do through policies like good childcare policies and you know,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: to help actually bring women on board, get more women
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: voting for the party. But if you do remember though,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: in the lead up to the last election women the
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: polling suggested that women were actually more inclined to vote
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: for Peter Dutton, but that got killed off with that
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: disastrous work from Home initiative and that was like the
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: real red flag for the party.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So the desire is there.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I just think it needs to be through policies, not
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: through gender quotes.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Let me play Devil's advocate. Gender quotas have worked very
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: well for Labor. They've got fifty three percent of their
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: caucuses female and they're in government and I.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Don't know what a woman is. So it's a good idea.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know what a woman. Well.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: The parody is that the gender quotas that Labor brought
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: in under in New south I was called the N
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: forty rule, which meant that head office could just come
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: in and override a branch branch level pre selection and say,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I know, we've got too many blokes across the board,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: we're going to put it in women. And it was
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: basically just used by the factions to settle all their scores.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: So the right would just use it to roll all
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: the left blokes and replace them with right we women,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: And maybe the left might try to do that now,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: but thankfully we've filled the quota so they can't. So
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: it wasn't Actually it was actually in many ways quite
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: a and I really obviously enjoyed it. It was actually
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: even more cynical and less ideologically fewer than the system beforehand.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: But I still don't like quotas, and I don't think
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: I think labor wins. More and more women are attracted
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: to labor because of the values that labor has or
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: that they believe labor to have. There was some really
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: interesting polling that came out this week that shows women
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: voters overwhelmingly reward things like compassion and consideration and sort
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: of niceness if you like, for one of a better
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: word in political leaders than men do. Men want leaders
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: to be tough and knowledgeable and competent and everything women rate,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: believe it or not, Compassion almost as high as competency
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: in the Parliament came out this way, and so it's
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: what different, you know, and you might argue that that
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: makes women more inclined to be lean towards the left,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: and there's a lot of evidence that sort of suggests
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: that as well. But the Libs, obviously, you know, are
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: in just this complete identity crisis. And you've got you're
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: absolutely right, You've got moderates on one side who think,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: if we don't move to the left, we are going
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: to be wiped out. And you've got conservatives on the
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: other side who are saying, if we don't move to
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: the right, we're going to be wiped out. And so
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: both of these you know, again I keep likning it
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: to the sort of to the Reformation. You've got these
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: two people who think we are facing a battle for
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: our very survival right here. Our life depends on this,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: and so there are no rules, and so they think, well,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter, you know, if people think we're naval gazing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: We have got to do this. It doesn't matter if
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: it's unhelpful, whatever. Have to do this. Otherwise we're all
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: going to die. Yeah, And that's what both sides think,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: and and it's hard to know out of it, but
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: you mentioned Mensis mensis, the liberal party of Mensis was
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: in the words of John Howard, I don't know if
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: it was Mensis himself who first coined it. It is
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: a broad church. It only works if it is a
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: broad church. It only achieves the critical mass needed to
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: win an election in a compulsory preferential vote if it
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: accommodates people from the center right all the way to
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: the right right. And the problem is there are two
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: new parties that have simply taken that big chunk away
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: on the right by one nation, big chunk away on
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: the left by the tiers, and there is simply not
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: enough Liberals left. And if they keep squabbling like this,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: there'll be half as many anyway. Another interesting thing that
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: came up today is we all saw, of course, the
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: corporate Australia, and this was part of its downfall. Of course,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Corporate Australia overwhelmingly backed the Voice, the Indigenous Voice to Parliament,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: and you know Quantas, Telstra, all these huge you know,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: my good friend Twiggy Forrest and his companies, Mindau and
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: all the rest all backed Fortescue, all backed the Voice
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: to Parliament. But when it comes to actually particular indigenous voices,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: or at least one indigenous voice, in particular, a company
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: has been accused of actually silencing it. Now, this is
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Roy RC. He's Wurradjuri elder. He's for anyone who's familiar
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: with sort of indigenous affairs. He's a very well known,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: very senior public figure. He's a former chairman of the
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: New South Wales Aboriginal Land Council. This is not you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: this is not some rando. This is a really sin senior,
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: well respected, sious guy. And he says that he was
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: asked to take down a video he posted on social
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: media talking about welfare dependency and what a problem was.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: He says that he was told to take it down
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: by a mining company simply because he happened to reference
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: the fact that he'd given an address to that mining
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: company in passing. This is him on two GB talking
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: to Ben Fordham today.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: The scourge on our community isn't drugs, alcohol and gambling.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: It's the lack of opportunity to realize the importance of
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: economic empowerment. And that's why I went out and spoke
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: on NADOC Day to this company. So the issue wasn't
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: the post, it's the process. And so when you've got
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: self appointed people or self appointed claimers that think they're
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: above the law and they don't have to answer to anybody.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: Then they intimidate corporates and companies.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Now I'm not going to name the company, and and
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's any need to name the company,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: although it is all on the public record. They know
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: who they are, and Roy certainly knows who they are.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: And you would just have to think what kind of
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: morals would any company have by telling an Indigenous man
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: who one they invite to speak to their employees so
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: they can sort of tick the box that you know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: they're all right in the reconciliation action plan, which I'm
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: sure they've got. It's all, you know, all going strong.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: And then they tell him, oh, I know, you are
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: not allowed to post something on your social media. You're
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: not allowed to express your own opinion as an Indigenous
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: elder because you've just sort of mentioned us in passing
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: and ooh, it's about this. I mean it was actually
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: talking about this. That is the stuff that we need
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: to be doing to close the gap and fix the problem.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: It's the problem that the indigenous speaker Anika did not
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: say indigenously things because clearly they have an idea about
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: what an Indigenous person will say, and then when the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: indigenous person didn't say what the Indigenous people are supposed
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to say, we better get that off social media. So
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: there's no blowback.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Correct it's this usual, Oh we better just clean up
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the mess, you know, because of political correctness.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: We've got to be very careful what we say.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: And we've seen this so much in Australia, the real
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: reluctance to actually talk about Indigenous issues and what's going on.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: You know, we've seen it in the last couple of
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: months over in Alice Springs in particular. We tiptoe around
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: it because we don't want to offend people though we
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: can see with our very eyes what's going on. Don't
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: forget that Royalcy and he even said that he has
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: grown up in this environment. He has grown up with
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: welfare dependency and poverty.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: So if anyone's.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Credible to talk about it, it's somebody like Royalcy.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And the facts are in his favor.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: There's about half of all Indigenous adults in Australia relying
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: on government income support, so what he's talking about is
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: not nonsense.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: And we since all.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: The time, right, So Senator just into Naputimber Price. If
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: she talks about issues such as domestic violence within some
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Abidginal communities, she gets slammed from all carters on the left.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Ye because whether or not it's true, that's just not
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: something that Indigenous people should be talking about, which feels
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: like the height of racism when you decide that a
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: person because of the color of their skin can only
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: have these talking points and can't have those.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: What about the racism towards all the Indigenous women who
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: are suffering domestic violence anywhere up to you know, thirty
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: times the rate of non Indigenous women who have to
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: keep copying it because the left doesn't want to even
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: acknowledge that it exists.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: This is the thing, and if you don't actually talk
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: about it, how are you going to address the disparity?
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: And you should be listening to leaders in the community
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: like just int A Nampajimber Price, like people like Roy
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: RC who know it firsthand.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: But if we don't talk about it, then we're never
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: going to solve it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: And as for these corporations and companies who continuously tell
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: us what to think and how to think, I think
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: that at a big reality.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Only if we only if we think the right things.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Correct.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Now, speaking of domestic violence are the massive issue in
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: the news this week obviously was the question of the
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: removal of this statue of former AFL great Nikki Windmar,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: the iconic statue of his incredible photograph where he ripped
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: up his shirt his jersey pointed to the color of
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: his skin in response to racism abuse. He was coppying
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: from the crowd and this was just after he'd kicked
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: a goal. He let his feet through the talking. He
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: has now been stripped of his membership of the AFL
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, as well as having the statue being
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: torn down, and he has said this is of course
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: after he was convicted of domestic violence and really nasty,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: serious domestic violence which he slammed a woman's head I
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: think four times and she said she was in fear
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: of her life. However, he is appealing that decision, so
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: that's something to keep in mind. But he has been
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: removed from the AFL Hall of Fame, and Winmar has
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: accused the AFL of hypocrisy because others who have been
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: accused of similar things, although not convicted, have still retained
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: their membership. And Nikki Winmar said in his first comment
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: since this again, I am appealing the verdict and would
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: also like some clarity from the AFL as to why
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: there are other players in the Australian Football Hall of
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Fame who have been found guilty of similar charges and
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: why I have been removed before the appeal has even
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: been heard. Now. One example that springs to mind is
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: someone who it was publicly reported committed a really nasty
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: act of domestic violence against his partner, but she did
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: not press charges, and therefore, of course he was not
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: actually convicted or charge, let alone found guilty. So I'm
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: not sure if that was what hi Winma was referring to,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: but certainly seems that for some people it does take
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: an awful lot to get kicked out of the AFL
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Hall of That. Nikki bin Mart's all a bit too
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: hot and they've got to, you know, just erase it all,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: pretend it never happened, so don't look at it.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: The criteria for being inducted into the AFL Hall of Fame,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: there's about five criteria. The most obvious of course is
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you have to have been a great AFL footballer, but
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: integrity and character does come into it. Now that's when
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: you're inducted. The change and how they're going to manage this,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know, is that they're now looking at character
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and integrity, not just when you're inducted, but I guess
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: for the rest of your life and beyond. If they
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: discover something about you after you're dead, I suppose, And
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: so that changes the whole scenario, right, because now they're
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: going to be applying things retrospectively to your status in
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, which I think, whilst it might
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: be noble in intent, is a very difficult thing to do.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: It's like to make his parents at Christmas time.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: That's exactly.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: It's very difficult to be consistent. And I suppose that's
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Nicky win Mar's point. Not that I think he'll get
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: much sympathy, but his point I think is still valid.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I think, so today, how are.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: They going to be consistent in this when it's highly subjective?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Well, that's it.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: And I think there have been so many players who
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: have done outstanding things on the football field, not all
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: of them in the Hall of Shame, but in the
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, sorry, the whole of goodness, sorry, the
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. You know, the standouts that I can
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: think of. Obviously, Ben Cousins is one of them, and
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: there were questions whether or not Heat would be inducted.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: He obviously left football and had a very very long
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: publicized drug history as well as going in and out
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: of court.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Other West Coast Eagles players.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Daniel Chick, Daniel Kerr, a lot of them have left
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: football and have gone down a wayward path. I don't
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: think that we can possibly judge them on the path
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: that they have entered into once they've left football.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I think we judge them for their behavior.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: And their conduct, and their sportsmanship and their athleticism on
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: the field. There's no sympathy for win Maar in this situation,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: but I actually understand his point.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Think it's got to be either good for one or
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: good for none, that is the point.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: So I mean, they could make a rule, right, so
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: if you get a criminal conviction, you're out. But then
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: we're going to have an argument because not all criminal
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: convictions are equally as obnoxious in the public.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: That's right. What about the thing that you know, something
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: that everyone knows, it's been publicly said, you know, hasn't
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: even really been denied, I don't think. But but you
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: know that, but there hasn't because the victim hasn't actually
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: pressed charges. In the case the other one, there were
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: other charges that he did plead guilty to of harassing,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: and an off duty police officer tried to intervene in
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: the other decision. But again it just goes say, all right,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: so does that just make it too messy? So we'll
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: let him keep you keep on carry on in the
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Hall of fame or is it just you know, no,
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: we've got a nice clear cutcase for Nikki win Ma here,
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: even though he's obviously appealing. Has he come through?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Can we not just say an incredible foot player, ye,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: greatly flawed human being?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Correct?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: We hold those two things at the same pathing.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: You can absolutely or maybe just have the statue up
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: there and every time see people look at it. Maybe
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: we should think more about domestic violence and indigenous communities.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: We should pay I'm with you, I'm with you all
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Let's go over to Scotland now, where an Aberdeen University
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: employee is being investigated for comments they made following the
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: death of former MP and Whittakomb.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: This is Heather Herbert, who posted.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: On their social media just before this was a murder investigation,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: they wrote, and some good news for once. I hope
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: it was an extremely painful death, and I hope she
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: was handcuffed to the bed as she screamed in agony.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: But the reason why this has become such a big
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: story was is that this Heather Herbert, is a member of.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: The Greens Party. Chaka.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: There no shock at all, and so now the Greens
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Party actually in Scotland is investigating this. But this is
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: not the first time that Heather has been involved in
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: comments like this.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Heather and her boyfriend, So you know when he was shot?
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: What did he what did he say?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: He was like literally this question.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: So sorry that those comments were made in relation to
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: So Heather really loves a political assassin.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: It clearly loves it a political assassination.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: But you know what, I really worry about the reaction
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: that I've seen on social media in particular to the
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: ad Whitticker death.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Don't forget the heart of all this.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: A woman has died, an innocent woman has has died,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: and now this is.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: A murder investigation.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: And just because you don't agree with their politics, it
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that you have to act like a complete
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: nutter and post on social media, suspect.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: That it was she was targeted because of her political beliefs.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: It wasn't actual politically, if you possibly.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: You've got a problem with politics, take it out in
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: the ballot box, don't take it out on another individual.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Do you know what's a though? The UK cops are
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: going around arresting everybody for not following COVID rules or
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: being too racist. Police Scotland received complaints about this post
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: where she said I hope she dies an extremely painful
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: death and she was handcuffed to the better she screamed
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: in agony. They received complaints about the post, but initially
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: said the information had been assessed and no criminality had
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: been established, so this one's actually fine. So however, on
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Tuesday afternoon, suddenly the police said we received reports on Saturday,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: eleventh of July range were post made online, presumably the
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: same complaints they were talking about the first time, but
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: they now say, following further assessment, additional inquiries are being
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: carried out.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: If someone is murdered because of their political views and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: then you glory in their murder because of their political views,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: that's very close to incitement, is it not. Inciting people
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to commit similar crimes against people with similar.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Political You know why, because all its this is one
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: person not of sound mind to call it to be
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: a call to action and take matters into their own
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: hands that we've seen at multiple times with a multiple
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: attempt assassination in terms on Donald Trump's life for example.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: All right, we're going to go to a break. When
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: we come back, look at what's making headlines tomorrow, including
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the question about why the increase in citizenship ceremonies all
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of a sudden and after a Victorian court undergoes an
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: it upgrade, magistrates are now using pen and paper only
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: in Victoria. That's next. There's some great stories in tomorrow's papers,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: so we'll go through them for you, starting with the
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Daily Telegraph, which has got a headline you will never
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: believe citizenship for votes under labor? Can you believe that?
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Who would have thought? I can't believe it. I'm shocked.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Tell me is what it says. Local councils are being
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: pushed to increase their number of citizenship ceremonies amid accusations
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: that the federal government is trying to quote mint new
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: labor voters. End quote before the next election Council waiting
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: lists for citizenship have ballooned and are being further fuelled
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: by record immigration numbers, with almost two hundred and fifty
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: thousand arrivals in the five months from January to May
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: this year. New South Wales Parliament Upper House Deputy President
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Ron Roberts said the push to bring in more citizens
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: usually began in preparation for an election. They're trying to
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: new vote, as he said, people come into the country,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: get their citizenship, receive their benefits and feel obliged to
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: repay the government in some way. Joe, this is a
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: very cynical view that couldn't possibly be true of labor.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: So first you want everybody to be citizens and you
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: don't want to give any goodies to anyone who is in.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: And then when they make all the people's citizens, you
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: complain about that. There's just no pleasing you. People know
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: it was only last.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Night I said on the show. Remember Tony Burke's citizenship
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: tour of Australia before the last election.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Well here we go, where will Tony Burke end up next?
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Boking new Australians. This is a wonderful and making new.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Friends of labor at the same time.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Well, if they have to vote for the Australian Labour Party, Wow,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: so much the better. Wow, people, that is.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: A fascinating story.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look now at the Herald's Sun the
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: headline caught in a time war exclusive Victoria's justice system
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: in crisis with bungled one hundred and fifty nine million
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: dollar tech upgrade forcing magistrates to use pen and paper
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: only in Victoria. Victoria's criminal justice system is in crisis
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: with a bungled one hundred and fifty nine million it
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: upgrade forcing magistrates to resort to using pen and paper
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: and grinding cases to a halt. Less than three weeks
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: after the rollout of the new case management system across
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Victoria's magistrates courts. The upgrade, which is responsible for managing
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: more than seven hundred thousand listings every year, has now
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: forced an emergency meeting of senior judicial officers. How are
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I other people supposed to be doing their jobs in
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: courts if they're using pen and paper old.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: School style.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Contactases?
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I just yeah, Condie, it's COVID stuff. You know you've
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: got crime going out of control in Victoria. You've already
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: got magistrates that give the youth offenders a slap on
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: the rest and that they go back out and the
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: cycle of crime continues. Oh but's all right now the
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: magistrates using pen and paper really an absolute terrific This.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Is a real cluster, you know what.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: And how do you spend one hundred and fifty nine
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: million dollars on the upgrade and end up with this result?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And what you'll probably end up with is like the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: bomb who say they got any that the out by
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: like twenty times budget to almost one hundred million dollars.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: And the same company does work for a whole bunch
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: of other comfant.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: They gave him more contracts happened with this company, no doubt.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: In Victoria, it's fantastic. It's job creation. Let's go to
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: the Mighty TiSER now. And this is an incredible front
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: page poetic injustice fury over wife murderers prison awards. I mean,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: just take a look at this bloke. You would not
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: even let your dog anywhere near him. An adulterous husband
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: who conspired with his mistress to kill his wife is
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: in a low security prison, winning awards for his sad
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: love poetry and coloring, in for which the correctional services
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: and has apologized. I would think they most likely should
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: have apologized. How does a murderer end up in minimum security?
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: But also so is he just allowed to submit his
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: poetry and coloring in books or something.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it would be seen as part of his rehabilitation.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Probably he's probably been encouraged by a psychiatrists to, you know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: put it in rhyme and.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: I uhould take up water painting as well. Unbelievable anyway,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: that's I just I find anyone who writes poetry is
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: usually a bit sus you know. Then you add the
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: murder conviction.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: And yeah, and by the look of him as well
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: as you said, yeah, I mean he's got a good
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: conbo even.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: The glasses and the mow alone as a big and
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: the fingers on the lips. Anyway, Another interesting one that
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: caught my eye. MP Staffer in boating disaster. Boating disasters
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: are fine, always always very interesting. Federal South Australia MP
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Tony Passen, who of course is a chief confidante to
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: leader Angus Taylor and who flagged the idea of doing
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: a deal with one nation or he was slammed for that.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: He was slammed in another sense of the word into
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: the front of an oyster boat while his staffer was
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: thrown overboard and trapped between the vessel and a sandbar
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: and seriously injured in a horrific incidant in northern Tasmania
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: on Thursday morning. Imagine how cold it would have been
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: as well. Mister Passon told the Advertiser his staff member
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: was trapped underwater for a minute until he was freed.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: The thirty seven year old staffer was taken to hospital
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: in Lnceston, where he was in a serious but stable condition.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: That is terrifying. And if you're anywhere near the shore
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: in an oyster kind of area, all the rocks will
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: totally be covered with oysters and they are razor sharp.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: So I hope he's all right and sending yeah praise
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: his way anyway.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right. Let's go to the front page of
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: the courier a Mail. The headline reads storm in a teacup.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Former minister said this violent CFMI you assault was just
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: unions being unions. The article reads that the aggressive and
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: violence storming of a state government office by CFMU thugs
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: was shrugged off by the then Transport Minister Mark Bailey
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: as unions being unions. This is what an inquiry has
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: been told. A security guard was bowled over after CFMU
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: members forced open the doors of Transport and Main Roads
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Mary Street officers during a twenty twenty two confrontation that
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: later sparked a series of workplace compensation claims by traumatized
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: public servants. And so there's a photograph there of someone
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: who's been thrown to the ground what looks like union
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: officials standing over him, and you've got the then Transport
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Minister to saying, wow, unions will be unions. What do
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: you expect.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, if we're gonna nitpick here, it is not
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: unions being unions. Like you don't see the Teachers' union
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: doing that. You don't see the nurses doing that. I
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: mean they edit out trans articles that you don't see
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: the Health Services Union doing that. So it's a union
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: being a union and I dare say it's the same bob.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Look, that's exactly right. All right.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look now at the Australian. You can
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: have a look there on the bottom left hand side.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Ar Dern unlimited taxpayers eighteen thousand dollars hit Australia's top
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: government agencies, including Intelligence, Defense and the Tax Office have
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: spent more than eighty thousand dollars on tickets to send
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: their staff to a women's leadership summit headline by former
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: New Zealand Prime Minister just Into ar Dern. Notices updated
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: on as Tender the government database for Contracts and Procurements
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: show five agencies have paid between ten and twenty eight
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars each on tickets for the women Unlimited Leadership
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Summit on August eighteen to twenty one. Passes retail for
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: up to four thousand, four hundred and ninety nine, almost
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: tripled the price of Taylor Swift's VIP Australian tickets, and
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: the spend comes just months after Jim Arms and Finance
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Minister Katie Gallaher asked apartments to cut down on costs
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: as spending hit a forty year high. Well this, ladies
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: and gentlemen, is where your money is going. Isn't that terrific?
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Justinto ar Durn's coming and apparently government officials have just
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: got to.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: A team, what a waste of money. They could have
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: spent that money sending the public servants somewhere which would
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: actually do them some good. Like Megan Markle's little retreat.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: That would have been terrific, actually fantastic. Let's just think
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: about how relaxed and empowered that's.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Just into going to talk about her success during the
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: COVID pandemic? Is that going to be a topic Number one?
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: A lot of hugging. I imagine a lot of hugging.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Well, you can't go to any other seminar because just
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Aderne is the sole source of truth.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Remember when she declared that, I do remember that.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if she hadn't said it, it ain't true. We're
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: to go to a break when we come back. Chinese
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: villagers survive Toffoon only to be confronted by nine hundred snakes.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: That and more in just a moment, Welcome back to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the program. Well, I thought Joe Biden had disappeared, but
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: he's still hanging around Deniaka.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: He's still mumbling, fumbling and stumbling unfortunately.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: And guess what he's written a memoir? Would you believe?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: It's called Promise Me America? And gee, what a teaser
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: this is going to make you want to go out
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: and buy it.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Since that's the presidency, I've had a lot of people
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: ask me Joe, what are you doing?
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I've written a book about my time as president. It's
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: called Promise Me America.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: It's coming on November.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: Why I chose to run for re election and why
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: I chose to step aside.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't understand what he said, and I don't
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: think that he understood either. Was this written by Jill
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Biden as she staged left over there instructing him say this, Joe,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: well done, you answered every single question.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Now let's publish a memoir.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, i'd Joe Biden and listen to Joe Biden.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: That's for sure that it is written by Kamala Harris.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: Probably why why hasn't Why is this still happening? No, no,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: I tell you what this is leading to. This is
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: leading to the new Democratic Party of America. Who's poster boy,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: of course, is Zoron Mamdani, the socialist mayor of New
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: York City. And New York City you'll be pleased to
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: know lists no more, no less, I should say, than
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: one hundred free places to take in soccer's biggest tournament
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: on the big screen. But one place that isn't listed
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: is the city's notorious Rikers Island jail complex. Which is
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: of course known for its overcrowding and violence, and yet
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: more than one hundred inmates were rewarded with a special
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: viewing the World Cup semi final between England and Argentina
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: as a reward for good behavior. And guess who was
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: amongst them to prove that he's a man of man
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: of the people. Wow, old zorn Zion Mandani. I mean, honestly,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: like that is such a douche move.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Isn't he just the biggestics?
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: I'm like Johnny Cash, Yeah, he's just pathetic. Why not
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: do something for like laurabiding people.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Why don't you do something for the homelessness?
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Why don't you address the issues in your in your
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: city instead of.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Pandering slightly different view of this. I found it difficult
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to get upset that these are prisoners who have been
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: well behaved so they get this as a reward, and
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the mayor going and encouraging some guys who, you know what,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: are trying to put their lives back together. Is that
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: really a very Christian of you?
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: I think if it was, if it was Johnny Cash
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: like yeah, all right, yeah, but you just know that
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: it's just you can smell the smugness through the screen.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: You just know that he's doing it just to show
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: that I'm the champion of the downtrodden. You know, no
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: one is too lowly for me not to go.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: And if anyone else had done it, to probably be fair.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: If I did it, it would be like awesome.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Absolutely pure. A Chinese village survived a typhoon, floodwaters mashing
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: through the place. The only problem is the floodwaters destroyed
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: a snake breeding farm. Why you would have a farm
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: breeding venomous snakes, and so you've got nine hundred snakes
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that escape from the breeding farm just floating through the
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: village in the floodwaters. You survive the typhoon, now you're
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: going to survive nine hundred snakes, many of them. As
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I said, venomous. Can you imagine?
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Is my worst nightmare a while since I read Revelations James.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: But I'm pretty sure that's in there.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's the end of the world right there.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Monsters.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Imagine that, Like, imagine if you're just sort of wading
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: through the water.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: No one snake is a nightmare. Nine hundred Yeah, that's it.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I'm going through a different village. That's all we've got
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: time for tonight. Thanks for joining us this week. Don't
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: forget tomorrow night. Opinionated with the Nika to Georgia at
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: what time
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: APM and James McPherson will be a guest star any
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: shows not on good Night