Latest / Honey Badger Radio / Women exist, women most affected
Transcript
- 0:01Speaker 1: Okay, and we're live. Hello everybody, welcome back to Honey
- 0:04Speaker 1: Badger Radio. My name is Brian and who Allison and
- 0:06Speaker 1: this is maintaining frame. What y. Yes, we're live. We're back.
- 0:15Speaker 2: We're back after being knocked offline.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Well it was. There was a yeah, my internet went
- 0:21Speaker 1: down like right before the show was supposed to start,
- 0:24Speaker 1: and it didn't come on for about an hour or so,
- 0:28Speaker 1: and so yeah, we just pushed it up. But yeah,
- 0:32Speaker 1: it was. It was down for a while. And uh
- 0:35Speaker 1: and then when I started the stream up today, for
- 0:38Speaker 1: some reason, restream didn't alter my titles to give it
- 0:41Speaker 1: the new titles that for this show, and YouTube didn't
- 0:46Speaker 1: take the in jest, so I had to it created
- 0:48Speaker 1: a new instance. But I shared it with you guys,
- 0:51Speaker 1: and yeah, you should be you should be good now
- 0:56Speaker 1: you Yeah, first YouTube.
- 1:00Speaker 2: The YouTube get in the YouTube, er stream g get
- 1:03Speaker 2: in it.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Okay, didn't it didn't go in. But we're good now
- 1:07Speaker 1: we're here and we're gonna be looking at this video.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Somebody in our comment section recommended it. That's how I
- 1:17Speaker 1: found it. I don't know if you saw that. Like
- 1:19Speaker 1: we got to comment on another video where let me
- 1:23Speaker 1: see here I will go to it and show you. Well,
- 1:27Speaker 1: I'll read it out for you guys, so cause it's
- 1:30Speaker 1: I'm assuming, and it's related to another video that was shared.
- 1:37Speaker 1: So let me see if I can find it. We
- 1:39Speaker 1: get we get a lot of comments. It's hard to
- 1:41Speaker 1: find here, like scrolling back through the comments section.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Yeah you actually, we do actually go in our comment section. Yeah,
- 1:52Speaker 2: sometimes regretfully, but but not always. Often. You guys have
- 1:57Speaker 2: very interesting things to add, like recommendations like this one
- 2:03Speaker 2: which oh.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Yeah, here it is Bejorn. It was from Bjorn Johnson
- 2:08Speaker 1: who posted on our children exists Men to Blame video
- 2:11Speaker 1: which was like a couple of videos back where I
- 2:14Speaker 1: think we're reacting to Briwity Claire and Queer Kiwi's videos
- 2:18Speaker 1: on like you know, boy moms and girl dads. And
- 2:24Speaker 1: they said the YouTube channel, the thought Spot did a
- 2:27Speaker 1: very concise video, not really, it's about a half hour
- 2:30Speaker 1: long about destructive behavior among women and particularly how that
- 2:34Speaker 1: affected her as an autistic woman. Yeah, so I thought
- 2:38Speaker 1: I would look up the video and share it. So
- 2:42Speaker 1: this is what we're going to be looking at today,
- 2:44Speaker 1: is this woman who is trying very very hard not
- 2:49Speaker 1: to upset women because she's about to deliver the mildest
- 2:53Speaker 1: criticism ever, and of course it's probably not going to
- 2:59Speaker 1: work out. So anyway, Alison, you're muted. I think I
- 3:05Speaker 1: assume you wanted to say something.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I did, I am, I am, and I
- 3:09Speaker 2: do want to say something. You know me, Well, yes,
- 3:14Speaker 2: the most I just laughed when you said this woman
- 3:16Speaker 2: doesn't want to criticize women, you gotta make it.
- 3:20Speaker 1: She says, she does, but she's trying to be very like.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Diplomatic, whereas I don't give a crap anymore. I'm not
- 3:28Speaker 2: sure if I ever did. But yeah, like I I'm
- 3:33Speaker 2: I'm of the opinion that if women want me to
- 3:36Speaker 2: abide by these kinds of behaviors and tolerate them, then
- 3:41Speaker 2: I have no need of them, no need of their company.
- 3:47Speaker 2: And that's that's sort of my position. I will not
- 3:49Speaker 2: be silenced, and I will not be manipulated. I won't
- 3:51Speaker 2: be put through a labyrinth of catch twenty two's, and
- 3:54Speaker 2: I will not signal against my own ethical substrate some
- 3:58Speaker 2: kind of allegiance to the consensus. And if that means
- 4:02Speaker 2: that I am socially ostracized and removed from the company
- 4:04Speaker 2: of women, then so be it. Although interestingly enough, there
- 4:08Speaker 2: are women who have accompanied me in my exile. So
- 4:11Speaker 2: there you go. And uh, that's uh, that that's my
- 4:16Speaker 2: line in the sand. Maybe it's more like a line
- 4:19Speaker 2: in concrete. I'm not gonna I'm not going to Uh,
- 4:22Speaker 2: I'm not gonna live my life walking on eggshells just
- 4:26Speaker 2: for women's approval. And I think this woman needs to
- 4:30Speaker 2: make that decision for herself as well. And honestly, it
- 4:34Speaker 2: doesn't mean that she'll necessarily be without female company. She'll
- 4:37Speaker 2: just have a better, better quality of female company, right,
- 4:43Speaker 2: And why would you want anybody in your life that
- 4:46Speaker 2: that increases your cortisol load? Right, It's just it's not
- 4:51Speaker 2: worth it, all right. And on that, on that note,
- 4:56Speaker 2: you can decrease my cortisol road and Brian's cortisol load
- 4:59Speaker 2: and hand quarters all load by supporting the show at
- 5:02Speaker 2: feed the back Seat. That's segue. It's so smooth. I'm
- 5:06Speaker 2: patting myself on the back for that one. At feed
- 5:08Speaker 2: the Badger dot Com slash support very much, very much
- 5:13Speaker 2: essential to make sure we can continue to bring you
- 5:15Speaker 2: this content. And it's as far as I know, it's
- 5:19Speaker 2: very unique because we situate the problem right in the
- 5:22Speaker 2: relationship between men and women. I do that very explicitly.
- 5:27Speaker 2: I don't think any other politics is really more relevant
- 5:29Speaker 2: than that. Everything else is downstream of it. If you
- 5:33Speaker 2: want to look at it this way, men and women
- 5:35Speaker 2: were the first two economic groups with perhaps differing interests
- 5:43Speaker 2: in the human experiment, And if there is trouble in paradise,
- 5:48Speaker 2: that usually originates there. So if you want to be
- 5:52Speaker 2: to take far in that and also realize that the
- 5:55Speaker 2: most important issue to address is the relationship between men
- 5:58Speaker 2: and women, and as a result, the most important ideology
- 6:03Speaker 2: to oppose is the one that insists that the relationship
- 6:06Speaker 2: between women and women is not characterized by complementarianism, cooperation.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Dare I say love but oppression, competition, destruction, abuse, and
- 6:21Speaker 2: their perennial favorite grape. Then support us and feed the
- 6:28Speaker 2: Badger dot com slash support and if you want to
- 6:31Speaker 2: send us a message at any time throughout the show,
- 6:33Speaker 2: you can do so at feed the Badger dot com
- 6:35Speaker 2: slash just the tip. Oh yet, one more note the fundraiser.
- 6:38Speaker 2: We got three days left on it. We're still at
- 6:40Speaker 2: about forty five hundred left to go, so please help help.
- 6:46Speaker 2: So yeah, and you do that, Feed the badger dot com,
- 6:48Speaker 2: slash support, feed the Badger dot Com slash just the
- 6:50Speaker 2: tip to send us a message, and Badger Nation dot online.
- 6:53Speaker 2: If you want to read the more in depth stuff
- 6:57Speaker 2: that I do. It's got less squirreling because when I
- 7:00Speaker 2: write things out, I can actually focus on a through line.
- 7:04Speaker 2: When I'm talking, I tend to go everywhere, so it's
- 7:06Speaker 2: a a little bit more I guess, follow able, understand allable.
- 7:13Speaker 2: So Badger Nation done online if you want to read
- 7:16Speaker 2: more of my thoughts based on the frameworks that I've
- 7:18Speaker 2: established for analysis and all that kind. Just now, I
- 7:22Speaker 2: did a twenty minute take down of a paper that
- 7:27Speaker 2: one of our patroots sent through which basically found or
- 7:32Speaker 2: alleges that it found no association between testosterone and risk taking.
- 7:38Speaker 2: And what it actually found is that there's no association
- 7:41Speaker 2: between testosterone and gambling. But think about the biggest gamblers,
- 7:47Speaker 2: old women, right, Gambling doesn't necessarily the gambling isn't something
- 7:53Speaker 2: that necessarily is recruited by testosterone. It's often retruited by
- 7:57Speaker 2: other pathways in the brain, and they didn't account for that.
- 8:01Speaker 2: So their freaking study and the assumption because it all
- 8:05Speaker 2: landed on oh, it's all socialization, because of course it does.
- 8:08Speaker 2: If there's anything that men do better than women, we
- 8:12Speaker 2: have to nullify it and attribute it to socialization. Right.
- 8:17Speaker 2: It can't even assert that because it hasn't differentiated between
- 8:21Speaker 2: gambling that's associated with androgens and gambling that's dissociated with
- 8:26Speaker 2: dopagenic rewards, which is what the old women are doing. Right. Okay,
- 8:31Speaker 2: So this jet twenty minutes took to tear that thing apart.
- 8:34Speaker 2: If you're interested in seeing that process, go to Badger
- 8:36Speaker 2: Nation done online. All right, take it away, Brad.
- 8:41Speaker 1: All Right, So first we'll start with her little opening
- 8:45Speaker 1: on this, which basically just sets it up. And uh yeah,
- 8:49Speaker 1: let's take a look.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Let's talk about why female social dynamics genuinely terrifies me
- 8:55Speaker 3: as an autistic woman.
- 8:59Speaker 1: All right, So just right off the bat, So we
- 9:05Speaker 1: have a couple of things, Right, she's afraid of female
- 9:08Speaker 1: socio dynamics, what it is about it that's terrifying, and
- 9:11Speaker 1: she claims to be autistic. So and I'm not saying claims.
- 9:16Speaker 1: I'm not saying that she's not. I'm saying that this
- 9:19Speaker 1: is the claim. I don't, you know, I'm not sure
- 9:21Speaker 1: like how she determined it. But this is what she's
- 9:23Speaker 1: telling us. So okay, yeah, go ahead.
- 9:29Speaker 2: This isn't because just because you're you're autistic. I think
- 9:33Speaker 2: what's happening here is women who aren't autistic get a
- 9:37Speaker 2: greater benefit from interacting with other women than autistic women do.
- 9:43Speaker 2: So for them, the there's a balance. There's the congenital
- 9:48Speaker 2: warmth that other women give them. I guess, there's the
- 9:51Speaker 2: mother need that are provided by other women. But then
- 9:54Speaker 2: you have the autistic women they probably don't need as
- 9:57Speaker 2: much as that. They don't get as much out of
- 9:59Speaker 2: the affiliative warmth of the oxytocin web, so they're not
- 10:06Speaker 2: getting in it the incentive and they're pretty much eating
- 10:09Speaker 2: the downside, which is going to make it more stressful
- 10:12Speaker 2: for them. I just wanted to point that out. But however,
- 10:16Speaker 2: the social problems of women in groups, that's a constant
- 10:23Speaker 2: for all women. It's just that I think autistic women
- 10:26Speaker 2: don't get the benefit, so they're left with the detriments,
- 10:30Speaker 2: the negatives. All right, let's keep going.
- 10:34Speaker 1: All right, so let's get into the first time codem
- 10:41Speaker 1: All right, so six twenty nine, right, we'll go to
- 10:47Speaker 1: this bit right.
- 10:48Speaker 3: Here from but yes, with that being said, let's just
- 10:54Speaker 3: dive into this video, let's have this important discussion, and
- 10:59Speaker 3: let's deconstruct together.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Just texted my friend if they wanted to go to lunch,
- 11:03Speaker 4: and they said, sure, Oh, I didn't know that you
- 11:09Speaker 4: wanted to disabitize with me. Oh, I didn't know that
- 11:11Speaker 4: I was a hideous beast.
- 11:13Speaker 1: And you waited me.
- 11:14Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
- 11:16Speaker 4: It's okay, I'll just block your number. You've probably already
- 11:20Speaker 4: blocked one. You probably fucking ate me. You probably have
- 11:22Speaker 4: a voodoo at all, and you just keep sucking poking it.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, what what? Okay, go back here. I
- 11:30Speaker 2: need to observe this again because the specimen of behavior
- 11:35Speaker 2: is just insane. What the okay, let's see it, let's
- 11:41Speaker 2: see it go as a response, then the use of sure, okay,
- 11:49Speaker 2: take it away, Brian, so get it again, and they.
- 11:52Speaker 4: Said, sure, Oh, I didn't know that you wanted to
- 11:57Speaker 4: disabitize with me. Oh I didn't know that I was
- 12:00Speaker 4: a hideous beast and you needed me.
- 12:02Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
- 12:04Speaker 2: This is why lesbian relationships have the highest rate of
- 12:08Speaker 2: domestic violence and divorce.
- 12:11Speaker 1: That escalated quickly fast.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Indeed, like what.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Yeah, what does this go ahead, al, I'm sorry.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Sure, Like what that's fine? Like for me, that's like neutral,
- 12:36Speaker 2: It's like, okay, good, she wants to go have lunch
- 12:38Speaker 2: with me. What's the rest of this? Does she just
- 12:41Speaker 2: have like a queue of self destructive thoughts that she
- 12:46Speaker 2: just needs to t shirt cannon onto somebody in her
- 12:49Speaker 2: vicinity and and force them to take responsibility for Like
- 12:54Speaker 2: this is okay? Honestly, this behavior sounds borderline. She sounds
- 13:01Speaker 2: like she has some serious mental health issue, some uh
- 13:06Speaker 2: personality disorder going on there. So but I again, like,
- 13:11Speaker 2: if this is female behavior, and I would have to
- 13:14Speaker 2: say that this is definitely something I've observed among women.
- 13:17Speaker 2: At least it's a failure mode that mostly women have.
- 13:21Speaker 2: I really can't see it with men, then yes, this
- 13:26Speaker 2: is female behavior. May not be all women. Maybe some women,
- 13:30Speaker 2: right stop the attributing my own negative thoughts about myself
- 13:37Speaker 2: to other people. Train Maybe they have some perspective. Maybe
- 13:41Speaker 2: this woman is filming this TikTok because she has some
- 13:44Speaker 2: perspective and she's like, look at what my strange brain did.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Maybe we should watch to the end. Maybe there's a
- 13:51Speaker 2: saving throw somewhere in here. Go ahead.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Brian I'll just block your number. You've probably already blocked mine.
- 13:59Speaker 4: You probably canny, You probably have a voodoo at all,
- 14:02Speaker 4: and you just keep fucking cooking it.
- 14:07Speaker 3: Oh, have you watch any good shows recently? What?
- 14:12Speaker 2: Okay, so there was no saving she's giving.
- 14:14Speaker 1: She's giving. Oh you mean like that this is like
- 14:16Speaker 1: a prank or some kind of like a bit that
- 14:19Speaker 1: she's doing.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a it's a bit. I mean, it's it's
- 14:23Speaker 2: authentic enough. I've seen this behavior.
- 14:26Speaker 1: But uh yeah, even if it's a bit, it's like
- 14:29Speaker 1: probably a bit that's trying to like shine a light
- 14:32Speaker 1: on a real phenomenon, you know, like where people will
- 14:38Speaker 1: basically read into everything too much and it's always like
- 14:42Speaker 1: not in their favor, which is kind of a narcissistic trait.
- 14:45Speaker 1: And I know that that word is overused, but like
- 14:48Speaker 1: when you think that you're uniquely awful, it's still about you.
- 14:53Speaker 1: So uh, Anyway, because the person did agree to go
- 14:56Speaker 1: to lunch, they said sure. I the act. I respond
- 15:00Speaker 1: that way all the time, Like if people ask me things,
- 15:03Speaker 1: I'll say yeah, sure, and that's it. And I'm I mean,
- 15:06Speaker 1: now that I've seen this, and like, are people reading
- 15:08Speaker 1: into that a bunch and thinking that I hate them.
- 15:11Speaker 2: No, no, not for men, although I have to say
- 15:14Speaker 2: that when you text me fine, it does give me pause.
- 15:19Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, but I don't know if that's because
- 15:24Speaker 2: I'm a woman or because I'm used to dealing with
- 15:26Speaker 2: and I've got like a like a conditioned anxious response
- 15:30Speaker 2: to the word fine. Now I'm like, yeah, is he
- 15:34Speaker 2: really probably I have to I have to do that
- 15:37Speaker 2: extra beat. I'm like, yeah, yeah, he's probably fine. I
- 15:40Speaker 2: don't have to read into this, but yeah, that's uh.
- 15:46Speaker 2: I see there. We now have a man on the screen,
- 15:48Speaker 2: so I'm guessing he's about to get it with both barrels.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Again. This could also just be a bit, but let's
- 15:53Speaker 1: let's take a look.
- 15:54Speaker 2: But but I do want to put something out. When
- 15:57Speaker 2: we look at this, doesn't it make the perfect sense
- 16:00Speaker 2: that the human race needs a buffer from this kind
- 16:04Speaker 2: of behavior, like a place where this kind of behavior
- 16:07Speaker 2: just sort of dies and stops. Otherwise we just end
- 16:11Speaker 2: up with endless cycles of reading into things negatively, and
- 16:16Speaker 2: then that sparks somebody else responding negatively because you just
- 16:19Speaker 2: read into their motivations negatively, and it just goes back
- 16:22Speaker 2: and forth and back and forth, and then the whole
- 16:24Speaker 2: world is just a smoking crater. It's almost like that
- 16:27Speaker 2: kind of mentality needs a place where it just like that,
- 16:31Speaker 2: there's people, a group of people that form like a
- 16:34Speaker 2: firewall to stop it. You know that don't actually work
- 16:38Speaker 2: off of that kind of logic, you know what I mean?
- 16:42Speaker 2: Otherwise the human race would have yeated itself off of
- 16:45Speaker 2: Earth long ago. But anyway, let's hear what this guy's
- 16:49Speaker 2: that be dealing with. Okay, yeah, actually I just finished
- 16:53Speaker 2: up Severn, so the finale was insane? Oh yeah, I.
- 16:55Speaker 3: Heard that one was good.
- 17:00Speaker 1: What's happenings?
- 17:00Speaker 3: Did you get?
- 17:03Speaker 1: I got M and MSMs.
- 17:07Speaker 2: Cool?
- 17:08Speaker 3: Did you want to know what toppings?
- 17:09Speaker 2: I got?
- 17:11Speaker 3: At one?
- 17:12Speaker 4: Oh?
- 17:13Speaker 1: Like thing? I guess he asked him about a show
- 17:16Speaker 1: and he basically said, yeah, it was awesome, and then
- 17:18Speaker 1: he didn't He did not essentially like respond with and
- 17:22Speaker 1: what of you think you know? Or what did you watch?
- 17:26Speaker 1: Or something like he didn't invite her in so and
- 17:29Speaker 1: then the eminem's yeah, so I see I see the
- 17:32Speaker 1: anger there. I see that. Sorry, ladies, guys, don't they're
- 17:36Speaker 1: not generally, We're not like that, like take the initiative,
- 17:42Speaker 1: all right, anyway. Yeah, do you want to say something
- 17:45Speaker 1: to that.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Sorry, I was just struggling with my mute button. Yes,
- 17:54Speaker 2: I would imagine that autistic women don't necessarily fall into
- 17:57Speaker 2: that because you know, if they have if they have
- 18:00Speaker 2: a love of dinosaurs, you will hear about it, right,
- 18:04Speaker 2: if they got dinosaur shaped sprinkles on their fricking mcflurry,
- 18:07Speaker 2: you will hear about it. You know, if they had
- 18:11Speaker 2: a particular opinion about the end of that TV show,
- 18:16Speaker 2: you will hear about it. Like they don't have to
- 18:19Speaker 2: wait to be prompted. That's the autism. Okay, let's keep going.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Okay.
- 18:27Speaker 3: Engaging in group dynamics with other women has honestly been
- 18:31Speaker 3: one of the most terrifying social experiences of my life.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Because so much of female socialization relies on covert communication.
- 18:40Speaker 3: There's this entire invisible relational network operating underneath the surface.
- 18:45Speaker 3: At all times, everyone is subtly tracking each other emotionally, socially, relationally.
- 18:52Speaker 3: People are keeping track of who affirmed, who, who reciprocated,
- 18:56Speaker 3: who mirrored who correctly, who is aligned, who is safe,
- 19:00Speaker 3: who is a threat, who belongs and who?
- 19:03Speaker 2: You know what that is? You know what that is?
- 19:06Speaker 2: Right there? Brian, that's web that I keep talking about
- 19:12Speaker 2: and that I have analyzed the uh, the nature of
- 19:16Speaker 2: and also shows up in all of the writing that
- 19:19Speaker 2: women do. The relational topography. That's their big cognitive process,
- 19:28Speaker 2: that's their big cognitive task is to map the relationships
- 19:33Speaker 2: of everyone in their social sphere to create that topology.
- 19:38Speaker 2: And of course, uh, I would say that autistic women
- 19:41Speaker 2: probably do that as well. However, they have a twist.
- 19:45Speaker 2: They're not mapping people, They're mapping operations. So if you
- 19:50Speaker 2: can imagine a web, but the nodes are tasks or
- 19:56Speaker 2: concrete action like a concrete facts or or all of
- 20:00Speaker 2: the like things that happen or affect the real world,
- 20:05Speaker 2: but they have it in a sort of a web format,
- 20:08Speaker 2: so that their topology is the topology of operations rather
- 20:12Speaker 2: than the topology of relationships. Which is it's an interesting
- 20:17Speaker 2: way to think about autistic women. But anyway, continue all.
- 20:22Speaker 3: Right, And as an autistic woman, I often feel like
- 20:26Speaker 3: everyone else got the manual except me. Now one of
- 20:31Speaker 3: the biggest behaviors that's women.
- 20:34Speaker 1: We should wait wait wait, yeah, I was gonna say,
- 20:36Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know that you have to be
- 20:38Speaker 1: autistic to feel like you didn't get the manual on that.
- 20:41Speaker 1: But maybe it's because I'm a man, because like, uh, yeah,
- 20:45Speaker 1: I don't. I don't operate well in that sphere. And uh,
- 20:50Speaker 1: I'm glad I don't. I think that there's some uh
- 20:55Speaker 1: it has it's not useless, but it's challenging. Yeah, it
- 21:01Speaker 1: only has its place. I think it's being misappropriated or
- 21:04Speaker 1: misused these days.
- 21:05Speaker 2: Well because it's it's being misused because there's no check
- 21:08Speaker 2: on it. And there's no check on it because the
- 21:10Speaker 2: women who are the most like have the greatest influence
- 21:14Speaker 2: in the relational web, have no custodial sense towards anyone
- 21:18Speaker 2: else but themselves. That's why they're consistently insisting that if
- 21:24Speaker 2: you want to have sisterhood, you cannot complain about the
- 21:26Speaker 2: behavior of other women. That doesn't That doesn't benefit women.
- 21:31Speaker 2: It benefits the women who are predators, who have absolutely
- 21:35Speaker 2: no sense of responsibility towards other people. Every woman who says, oh,
- 21:40Speaker 2: we should all be in our lilith era, or we
- 21:43Speaker 2: should have Jezebel energy, or we shouldn't be a cute
- 21:48Speaker 2: like anyone who any woman who speaks out against the
- 21:51Speaker 2: behavior of other women is a traitor to the sisterhood.
- 21:54Speaker 2: She's a predator. She's a predator who has spun a
- 21:58Speaker 2: web of traps and does it want to be called
- 22:00Speaker 2: out for it? Now that the existence of a relational
- 22:04Speaker 2: web should be able to manage an autistic woman, right,
- 22:09Speaker 2: there should be some kind of sense of responsibility to
- 22:15Speaker 2: other people in it. That's probably the way it worked
- 22:17Speaker 2: in the past when women had the v one a
- 22:21Speaker 2: ar at cross activation that I keep talking about, you know,
- 22:24Speaker 2: and actually we're able to engage in custodial monitoring and
- 22:27Speaker 2: understanding individuality. Okay, now it doesn't because it's all status orientated, right,
- 22:37Speaker 2: And I think ultimately, if I can.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Go on a little bit a second, and I'm sorry,
- 22:40Speaker 1: hold on, people are saying that your audio is not working.
- 22:43Speaker 1: I don't know why though, Yeah, but I see your
- 22:46Speaker 1: activity just fine, Like are you guys? Can you guys
- 22:50Speaker 1: hear me? Oh goodness, I want to see if they
- 22:54Speaker 1: can hear me. Let me, let me listen back to it.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Hold on a second, it's gonna no. I can hear
- 23:08Speaker 1: what the he Wes wolver and Philip Williams. Would you guys,
- 23:13Speaker 1: can anybody else hear us? Because I can hear us
- 23:20Speaker 1: in the video and.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh, double check that you're peering is working.
- 23:25Speaker 2: I guess what I was going to say is that
- 23:28Speaker 2: the admonition for women to submit to men may actually
- 23:33Speaker 2: be even more like wide, like I have a wider
- 23:38Speaker 2: kind of effect, because first of all, I don't think
- 23:41Speaker 2: submit really captures what's happening, But it's like this, but
- 23:45Speaker 2: it actually takes what's happening and translates it into relational
- 23:49Speaker 2: web terms which are hierarchical. But what's happening really isn't submission.
- 23:54Speaker 2: It's uh, engaging in a relationship that's ultimately complementarian and
- 24:00Speaker 2: understanding that your most fundamental relationship is cooperative and complementarian,
- 24:04Speaker 2: which provides like a ballast, like a place where that
- 24:08Speaker 2: relational web thinking doesn't apply. And if it's women's most
- 24:12Speaker 2: important relationship, it creates more of a contrast or a
- 24:17Speaker 2: way of evaluating their behavior within the weight relationship. You
- 24:21Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. Yeah, like it creates, it creates
- 24:27Speaker 2: a Okay, I can't find the words for it. I'm sorry, guys,
- 24:30Speaker 2: but I will. I'll think about what the right word is.
- 24:33Speaker 2: I'll just leave that right there.
- 24:34Speaker 1: We can continue, Okay, Yeah, there's another minute or so,
- 24:39Speaker 1: please guys send in to Superchow or super chat or
- 24:42Speaker 1: something if you want to comment on this. All right,
- 24:44Speaker 1: so I got another minute left in this time.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Code dynamics exhibit that genuinely scares me is the giving
- 24:53Speaker 3: to get dynamic. This is basically when women perform care,
- 24:57Speaker 3: and it's not necessarily because they want to, although it
- 25:00Speaker 3: can come from genuine care, but the primary reason for
- 25:05Speaker 3: them performing care is to actually get their own needs
- 25:09Speaker 3: met by you. Usually this behavior is born from women
- 25:14Speaker 3: not being able to directly communicate when they have a need,
- 25:19Speaker 3: and so the only way to get a need met
- 25:22Speaker 3: is to first do it for another person, because now
- 25:25Speaker 3: that person is obligated to do the same thing back
- 25:28Speaker 3: for you.
- 25:31Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if you want to say anything
- 25:36Speaker 1: to that, or if I to just keep playing. I'll
- 25:41Speaker 1: sender muted again.
- 25:44Speaker 2: Right, Yeah I wanted. Yeah, I mean the reciprocal care thing. Hmm. Yeah,
- 25:54Speaker 2: that is a difficult one to navigate. I just personally,
- 26:01Speaker 2: I just sort of do things almost compulsively without really
- 26:06Speaker 2: an expectation of return. Who I got a burr on me?
- 26:13Speaker 2: That happen?
- 26:13Speaker 1: Oh?
- 26:14Speaker 2: Probably?
- 26:15Speaker 1: Yeah, So she's so she's saying that she's basically like,
- 26:21Speaker 1: maybe that maybe she is autistic because she's basically saying
- 26:24Speaker 1: it seems like women only show care because they're expecting
- 26:27Speaker 1: something back, and it's like a weird thing that I
- 26:30Speaker 1: don't quite understand. And it's like, yeah, I get that,
- 26:32Speaker 1: And you could say that it's just become like transactional,
- 26:39Speaker 1: but I don't know, like if you would you do
- 26:43Speaker 1: something for someone who's never done anything for you, Yeah,
- 26:46Speaker 1: some people would, would you? Would you do it frequently?
- 26:49Speaker 1: Or would you just not really think about it? Like
- 26:51Speaker 1: as as a man, I don't think about it. I
- 26:54Speaker 1: mean I'm saying as a man, the way I am
- 26:57Speaker 1: is I don't think about it, like, you know, I
- 26:59Speaker 1: just to help people out, you know, if they if
- 27:02Speaker 1: if I can, and if they need it, that's it.
- 27:05Speaker 1: It's purely based on what I you know what, I
- 27:07Speaker 1: don't generally expect anything. So maybe that's the difference.
- 27:12Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, well, I mean it might be. I
- 27:16Speaker 2: would honestly say that she's giving women to do this
- 27:20Speaker 2: a bit of credit by saying, oh, they have no
- 27:23Speaker 2: other way to ask for what they want. I think
- 27:26Speaker 2: what the intent is is that you control the obligation
- 27:30Speaker 2: and you can create obligation whenever you want. Is more
- 27:34Speaker 2: the the the effect of that. But yeah, I let's
- 27:39Speaker 2: let's continue.
- 27:41Speaker 3: Okay, the name of reciprocity. How many siblings did you
- 27:45Speaker 3: say you had?
- 27:46Speaker 1: I have two? I have two brothers.
- 27:48Speaker 3: That mus have been so fun growing up with two brothers.
- 27:54Speaker 1: Okay, I mean go back a little bit to see
- 27:56Speaker 1: what that. There's a there's some text on the screen
- 27:59Speaker 1: here asking people questions about them just so they can
- 28:03Speaker 1: ask you questions about you, because you don't feel like
- 28:06Speaker 1: you're allowed to talk about yourself otherwise.
- 28:09Speaker 2: Okay, that's not accurate. That is definitely self victimization, right, Okay,
- 28:17Speaker 2: if you didn't feel like you're allowed to talk to
- 28:20Speaker 2: yourself otherwise, you wouldn't have the expectation that they would
- 28:23Speaker 2: ask after you. You're creating. This is actually control freakery.
- 28:28Speaker 2: You are doing something for somebody else, so you create
- 28:33Speaker 2: obligation in them, which means you control the process of obligation. Right,
- 28:39Speaker 2: that's not what is it? Because you don't feel like
- 28:42Speaker 2: you're allowed to talk about yourself otherwise. Nonsense? Right, that's nonsense.
- 28:47Speaker 2: That's a self that's a lie. It's an ego preserving lie.
- 28:52Speaker 2: You're pretending you're a victim of your own control freakery.
- 28:58Speaker 2: What you're doing is you're creating an oblige. And if
- 29:00Speaker 2: you really didn't think you had the right to talk
- 29:02Speaker 2: about yourself, you wouldn't have this entitlement and this sense
- 29:05Speaker 2: of resentment if the person doesn't fulfill the obligations that
- 29:09Speaker 2: you chose to give them. Now, I'm not sure why
- 29:16Speaker 2: women do this, but this is uh, it's it's a
- 29:21Speaker 2: bit ridiculous. If you just want to talk about something,
- 29:24Speaker 2: just talk about it, right and the and I think
- 29:29Speaker 2: it's just maybe it's because they're worried about rejection. Like
- 29:34Speaker 2: if they just talk about whatever experience they want to
- 29:37Speaker 2: talk about, then they're afraid that the person that they're
- 29:40Speaker 2: talking to will be like, I'm not interested, So they
- 29:42Speaker 2: have to pre create the obligation to close off the rejection,
- 29:48Speaker 2: or they're pre creating the obligation so it feels like
- 29:51Speaker 2: the person is coming to them, which is ego gratification.
- 29:57Speaker 2: Like I don't see this as this is like because
- 30:00Speaker 2: you don't feel like you're allowed to talk about yourself.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Otherwise that's nonsense, because again, if that was true, you
- 30:07Speaker 2: wouldn't have the feeling of entitlement after having made the obligation.
- 30:13Speaker 2: I think it's much better answered by you're a control freak.
- 30:17Speaker 2: If you want to talk about something, talk about it
- 30:20Speaker 2: and accept the potential rejection, and accept that you are
- 30:23Speaker 2: the one beseeching someone else. Right, You're the one who's
- 30:28Speaker 2: since you can't create the pre load with obligation with
- 30:31Speaker 2: the other person. You are introducing the topic and they
- 30:35Speaker 2: get to decide to reject or receive it. They're not
- 30:38Speaker 2: beseeching you anymore, which I think is really what this
- 30:41Speaker 2: is doing. You create the obligation, then the person asks you,
- 30:45Speaker 2: which is a beseeching. So they're trying to induce submission
- 30:50Speaker 2: in other people through this action, and then when it
- 30:53Speaker 2: doesn't land, when it gets no saled and they're like, yeah, no,
- 30:56Speaker 2: I'm not play interested in playing your dominance game, they
- 30:59Speaker 2: get they get angry. That's entitlement plus entitlement plus entitlement
- 31:05Speaker 2: plus entitlement. Just talk about what you want to talk
- 31:09Speaker 2: about and deal with the fact that that means the
- 31:12Speaker 2: person you're talking to can reject or receive it, and
- 31:16Speaker 2: you don't get to get the ego boost of having
- 31:20Speaker 2: them beseech you with a question. You see what I'm saying,
- 31:23Speaker 2: it's like court, the question is according, the question is
- 31:26Speaker 2: going to somebody else and giving them the option to
- 31:29Speaker 2: answer or not. That's what she's trying to elicit, and
- 31:33Speaker 2: that none of that is victimhood unless you presume that
- 31:39Speaker 2: your entitlements are owed to you, that the obligations that
- 31:44Speaker 2: you've induced into another person are genuine obligations that you
- 31:49Speaker 2: are entitled to cash in, and that you forcing another
- 31:53Speaker 2: person to beseech you, to treat you as the dominant
- 31:57Speaker 2: party and them as the missing of courting a beseeching
- 32:02Speaker 2: party is somehow another entitlement that you're owed. And that's
- 32:07Speaker 2: why her face doesn't look victimized. It looks affronted. Do
- 32:14Speaker 2: you see that?
- 32:15Speaker 1: M M, yeah, I do. It is entitlement.
- 32:20Speaker 2: It's intense.
- 32:21Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to talk about your siblings,
- 32:23Speaker 1: just talk about them. Yeah, But you don't want to,
- 32:27Speaker 1: You want to be asked to. You want people to
- 32:30Speaker 1: have to take an active interest in you so that
- 32:33Speaker 1: you can talk about yourself.
- 32:35Speaker 2: Yeah, but from a position of strength, because there you
- 32:38Speaker 2: have taken the interest. You see what I'm saying. You
- 32:42Speaker 2: are in position now to refuse or deny their interest,
- 32:45Speaker 2: which you have actually adduced in them with this preloaded obligation.
- 32:49Speaker 2: And of course statistic women walk into this and they
- 32:52Speaker 2: just share, you know, they want to talk about something,
- 32:55Speaker 2: they talk about it. They don't do the pre obligation thing.
- 33:00Speaker 2: They just lay it out there. And I wonder I'd
- 33:03Speaker 2: have to think a bit about how that would be
- 33:05Speaker 2: received by someone who does the whole pre obligation dominance move.
- 33:12Speaker 2: I would imagine that they would not treat that very charitably.
- 33:17Speaker 2: They would probably see that as the autistic woman being
- 33:21Speaker 2: entitled somehow to their time because they haven't done the
- 33:27Speaker 2: dance of pre loading obligation. They just said it instead,
- 33:31Speaker 2: just went right in with it. Or maybe it's exposing
- 33:37Speaker 2: the bones of this entire thing, But yeah, I can
- 33:41Speaker 2: see why this would have this woman would have ended
- 33:45Speaker 2: up on the wrong side of this particular ridiculous dominance exchange. Okay,
- 33:52Speaker 2: all right, I.
- 33:53Speaker 1: Got a super chow from official reverse Traditionalism channel on
- 33:57Speaker 1: YouTube for ten dollars and they say your audio is fine,
- 34:01Speaker 1: just fine, and then includes this video so from the
- 34:04Speaker 1: Department of Interia.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Oh yes, how are you fine?
- 34:07Speaker 1: Just fine? Fine? Just fine? Bye fine, just fine, just fine,
- 34:10Speaker 1: bade noe, just fine. Just bade just fine, okay, thank you. Yeah,
- 34:21Speaker 1: if you guys send like a YouTube link that's really short,
- 34:25Speaker 1: I might play it. No promises though, all right, Uh,
- 34:29Speaker 1: let's see this has a little bit more left in it.
- 34:31Speaker 1: So oh now there's no sound of course, hold on,
- 34:38Speaker 1: I gotta do this over again, all right.
- 34:45Speaker 3: And so this becomes an issue when women end up
- 34:49Speaker 3: over extending themselves and offering love and care to other
- 34:53Speaker 3: people when they genuinely don't want to and aren't capable
- 34:57Speaker 3: of it.
- 34:57Speaker 1: How often? All right? Uh do you want me to?
- 35:02Speaker 1: This was the length of the time code. But I
- 35:04Speaker 1: can play more if you're interested. Yeah.
- 35:07Speaker 2: So, because they offer love or that's not love, they
- 35:12Speaker 2: offer affiliation to people when they don't when they have
- 35:16Speaker 2: ulterior motives and they want something. So that sounds like
- 35:19Speaker 2: the nice guy Hmm it does, doesn't the much condemned
- 35:25Speaker 2: nice guy. Sounds like women are doing the nice guy thing. Hmmm.
- 35:31Speaker 1: Interesting. Even then, she is that that those women the
- 35:35Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Oh yeah, it might be because you know,
- 35:38Speaker 1: often coming from a real place of care and concern.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Mmm nope, I mean that's what she's saying.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Yeah, And also I think that they misunderstand the nice
- 35:49Speaker 2: guy thing. You know, it is possible for a man
- 35:53Speaker 2: to want to get to know a woman before he
- 35:55Speaker 2: expresses any sexual interest in her. Yeah, that's that. That
- 36:00Speaker 2: is a thing that happens. But also this is apparently
- 36:05Speaker 2: a dynamic that women engage in, so no wonder they
- 36:07Speaker 2: projected onto men and fundamentally don't understand it. But yeah, okay,
- 36:13Speaker 2: let's uh. Actually, before we continue, I just want to
- 36:15Speaker 2: mind everybody. We are doing our monthly fundraiser Feed the
- 36:18Speaker 2: Badger dot Com slash support. Please help out. In fact,
- 36:21Speaker 2: I'm trying. I've tried. I have this new plug in
- 36:24Speaker 2: and I want to make sure it works. So even
- 36:26Speaker 2: if you just like could go and put in and
- 36:29Speaker 2: I don't want to say even if you know anybody
- 36:31Speaker 2: out there who just wants to do like five bucks,
- 36:33Speaker 2: ten bucks, just go to feed the Badger dot Com
- 36:36Speaker 2: slash Support and put it through so I can make
- 36:38Speaker 2: sure that this is all working. That would be really appreciated.
- 36:42Speaker 2: Just take the time. I know you want to listen
- 36:44Speaker 2: to our dulcet tones and our great and cosmic wisdoms,
- 36:48Speaker 2: but please take the time to go to feed the
- 36:50Speaker 2: Badger dot Com slash Support and put something in so
- 36:53Speaker 2: I can make sure the plugin works and we can
- 36:55Speaker 2: start moving this towards the goal, which is keeping going,
- 37:01Speaker 2: you know, handing the baton off to another month of
- 37:05Speaker 2: Honey Badger Radio.
- 37:06Speaker 1: All right, continue, Brian, all right, I want to go
- 37:09Speaker 1: to the next time code nine nineteen. Okay, I got it,
- 37:18Speaker 1: and let me look at the hold on love and care.
- 37:22Speaker 3: Back to them.
- 37:23Speaker 1: What's happening? Did you get so this is the same
- 37:26Speaker 1: video where you talk about the M and m's, but
- 37:28Speaker 1: there's comments on the screen, so it says here, I
- 37:32Speaker 1: take it as they don't care, like this is like
- 37:34Speaker 1: how these people are reacting to this guy. How do
- 37:38Speaker 1: they treat it? Another one says, like, I didn't realize
- 37:41Speaker 1: I was interviewing you. I'm an open book. It's all
- 37:44Speaker 1: blank pages. They're not interested. That's why they don't ask questions.
- 37:49Speaker 1: Move on immediately, stop trying to teach them. Your time
- 37:52Speaker 1: is valuable. This is why the three strikes rule exist.
- 37:55Speaker 1: Three questions ask and no questions returned means you're out.
- 37:59Speaker 1: So this is women getting angry at this at this clip.
- 38:04Speaker 1: I got M and ms. Oh yeah cool?
- 38:09Speaker 3: Did you want to know what toppings?
- 38:10Speaker 2: I got?
- 38:11Speaker 3: And this becomes an issue for people.
- 38:13Speaker 2: I actually have a hilarious manecdote from this, right, Okay,
- 38:19Speaker 2: I don't know if i've I've said this, but that's
- 38:21Speaker 2: just a man doing what men do. The sharing and
- 38:24Speaker 2: experience of your toppings is not the first place where
- 38:27Speaker 2: they go. They're just you've just initiated tax a very
- 38:31Speaker 2: shallow task loop for him. What are my toppings? Well,
- 38:35Speaker 2: these are my toppings, task loop completed. That's it. That's
- 38:39Speaker 2: the way he thinks. And often you're expecting men to
- 38:44Speaker 2: operate in a register that they don't natively occupy. And
- 38:49Speaker 2: I'm going to know I'm gonna use this sort of
- 38:50Speaker 2: an amusing anecdote with my husband Jonathan. Right, So we
- 38:54Speaker 2: went to the city to pick something up that uh
- 39:00Speaker 2: we had to he had to I was going doing
- 39:02Speaker 2: a medical thing. He had to go to the to
- 39:04Speaker 2: the guy who had like meat and pick it up, right,
- 39:10Speaker 2: And while I was away, And when he finally picked
- 39:13Speaker 2: me up from my appointment, I asked him, Okay, so
- 39:16Speaker 2: what did you guys talk about? Because I was curious,
- 39:20Speaker 2: and he said, oh, we just were talking about, you know, uh,
- 39:25Speaker 2: grazing stuff like that, like farmer shit, and and I said, oh, okay,
- 39:30Speaker 2: all right, cool, and and then we he he wanted
- 39:34Speaker 2: to go find these fallout sodas. So we spent like
- 39:39Speaker 2: an hour trying to go to like costcos and other
- 39:43Speaker 2: places to try to find these sodas. And then when
- 39:46Speaker 2: we couldn't find them and the task loop completed, he
- 39:50Speaker 2: told me, oh, by the way he talked about men's issues.
- 39:54Speaker 2: I'm like, would that not be the most salient thing
- 39:57Speaker 2: to tell me? When I asked con and he said, ah, yeah.
- 40:02Speaker 2: I told him that my wife talks about men's issues
- 40:04Speaker 2: on her podcast. And I'm like, what did it take
- 40:07Speaker 2: until this task loop was completed for you to act?
- 40:10Speaker 2: And that's exactly it. The task loop was initiated and
- 40:15Speaker 2: the salient social details were suppressed until the task loop
- 40:20Speaker 2: was completed. Right, And so what these women are doing
- 40:23Speaker 2: is they're demanding men think in a way that they don't.
- 40:27Speaker 3: Right.
- 40:28Speaker 2: The cognitive load is on completing task loops. Maybe when
- 40:32Speaker 2: you get in between one, you might get the social register,
- 40:36Speaker 2: like the things that are that you think are more salient,
- 40:40Speaker 2: and he doesn't. And if you don't want a man,
- 40:44Speaker 2: get yourself a woman. But you know, there are some
- 40:47Speaker 2: serious detriments to getting a woman, suicide, domestic abuse, sexual abuse, divorce.
- 40:55Speaker 2: You know, you have to consider that, you have to
- 40:56Speaker 2: consider that you're gonna have two people reading the worst
- 40:59Speaker 2: into each other in a relationship, rather than a person
- 41:03Speaker 2: who's going to read the worst, but the other person
- 41:06Speaker 2: is just gonna be like, Okay, that's not what I meant,
- 41:09Speaker 2: instead of being like, I can't believe. I can't believe you, Susan,
- 41:14Speaker 2: I can't believe that you did that, that you said that.
- 41:16Speaker 3: Oh my god, Susan, I'm punching you now.
- 41:18Speaker 2: I'm punching you now, I'm beating you now, I'm studying
- 41:20Speaker 2: you now Like this is because you both are doing
- 41:23Speaker 2: the hysteria thing. You're feeding off of each other. So
- 41:27Speaker 2: instead of having somebody who says, Okay, I'm sorry, that's
- 41:29Speaker 2: not what I meant, you have somebody who's then taking
- 41:32Speaker 2: offense at your negative reading into her intentions. So now
- 41:36Speaker 2: you have a feedback loop of absolute chaos and violence.
- 41:40Speaker 2: So if you want that, do the female route. Now,
- 41:44Speaker 2: this may not have been the case for lesbians like
- 41:46Speaker 2: two generations ago, right, but it is definitely now because
- 41:51Speaker 2: all all women are oxytocin generalists, so they do not
- 41:56Speaker 2: have a break on this crazy train. No, I'm not
- 42:01Speaker 2: gonna I'm not gonna speak to the old school, like
- 42:05Speaker 2: the old school non political lesbians that used to exist
- 42:07Speaker 2: generations ago, right, but the ones now have the same
- 42:13Speaker 2: problem that all women have in our culture. Too much
- 42:16Speaker 2: safety has not led to getting that V one A
- 42:20Speaker 2: R activated, which is a break on this bad faith hysteria. Okay,
- 42:26Speaker 2: so you make your choice, you want another woman, you
- 42:30Speaker 2: are going to probably at some point end up in
- 42:33Speaker 2: the hysteria negative feedback loop, which is going to lead
- 42:38Speaker 2: to domestic violence. It's gonna lead probably to domestic murder.
- 42:41Speaker 2: It's going to not probably since it's a small amount,
- 42:44Speaker 2: but it still is quite a bit there. It's going
- 42:46Speaker 2: to lead to divorce. It's going to lead to a
- 42:51Speaker 2: massive radioactive crater in your social landscape. Right, that's what
- 42:57Speaker 2: you get when you put two hysteria machines together. I'm
- 43:02Speaker 2: gonna use the word hysteria because this is hysteria, and
- 43:06Speaker 2: that's not what you get when you have one party
- 43:09Speaker 2: being like, wait, no, I didn't who actually takes responsibility
- 43:13Speaker 2: instead of projecting bad faith back onto you? Yeah, Okay,
- 43:19Speaker 2: now I've done my bio essentialist thing.
- 43:21Speaker 3: For the day.
- 43:22Speaker 2: Let's keep going.
- 43:23Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let me see, Yeah, there's more to this.
- 43:29Speaker 3: We take things literally as a default. There's been so
- 43:33Speaker 3: many times throughout my life where a woman will compliment me,
- 43:36Speaker 3: for example, I will just say thank you, right, and
- 43:39Speaker 3: I won't necessarily return the compliment back, because to me,
- 43:43Speaker 3: it's just like I see it as you noticing something
- 43:46Speaker 3: and wanting to compliment me, and I'm going to receive
- 43:49Speaker 3: that compliment, that gesture and let it actually sink in
- 43:53Speaker 3: and appreciate it. And so in moments where I'm not
- 43:56Speaker 3: returning a compliment back, it will pretty immediately be interpreted
- 44:01Speaker 3: as me actively rejecting this person.
- 44:07Speaker 1: God, I imagine I can't. I can't live like that.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Like if somebody, if I give a compliment, just give one,
- 44:15Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't wait to hear them
- 44:18Speaker 1: give one back, Like why when? Where does it end?
- 44:22Speaker 1: Like we're just farming for compliments anyway, So yeah, compliment farming.
- 44:30Speaker 1: I guess it's like, if you are upset that you
- 44:34Speaker 1: didn't get a thank you in return, why did you
- 44:37Speaker 1: give a thank you to begin with? Like why start
- 44:41Speaker 1: the chain unless you think the only reason to do
- 44:44Speaker 1: it is because you're getting something out of it. I
- 44:46Speaker 1: don't know. That makes me crazy. What is there to
- 44:50Speaker 1: thank you for? I don't know?
- 44:52Speaker 3: And their needs? And it makes a lot of sense, right,
- 44:56Speaker 3: because if someone's complimenting you because they genuinely want to,
- 45:00Speaker 3: they are not going to interpret you saying thank you
- 45:02Speaker 3: as rejection. Right. But if someone is complimenting you specifically
- 45:06Speaker 3: for you to compliment them back, and you don't compliment
- 45:09Speaker 3: them back, of course they're going to interpret your lack
- 45:12Speaker 3: of complimenting them back as you actively rejecting them and not.
- 45:17Speaker 1: Yeah, but then it's not a compliment. It's not it's
- 45:20Speaker 1: not you know, it's not freely given. It's conditional, so
- 45:24Speaker 1: it's worthless anyway.
- 45:29Speaker 2: Well, basically it's basically tithing to the social web. But
- 45:33Speaker 2: you're right, it is. If it's not freely given, then
- 45:36Speaker 2: what are you complimenting? YEA, Like, what you're doing is
- 45:44Speaker 2: you're wanting you, You're wanting You're actually complimenting yourself. You're like, A,
- 45:50Speaker 2: it's very odd, and it's probably one of the reasons
- 45:52Speaker 2: why I've consistently been alienated from female groups. That's a. Yeah,
- 46:01Speaker 2: that's a thing. Okay, let's keep going all right, liking them?
- 46:06Speaker 3: Does that make sense? And obviously, as an autistic person,
- 46:10Speaker 3: I'm not going to know why you're doing something to me.
- 46:13Speaker 3: I'm not going to interpret the underlying meaning behind it.
- 46:16Speaker 3: And this is why I think over time, I've grown
- 46:19Speaker 3: to be very weary and almost skeptical and cynical of
- 46:24Speaker 3: the love, care and connection that women offer me because
- 46:28Speaker 3: I never really know how genuine it is, or whether
- 46:32Speaker 3: or not this woman is only saying or doing certain
- 46:35Speaker 3: things because it's expected, it's normal, or they need something
- 46:40Speaker 3: from me.
- 46:41Speaker 1: But also, I mean, I wouldn't get upset about it,
- 46:46Speaker 1: you know, I would just associate with people who actually
- 46:49Speaker 1: want the best for me, and not the people who
- 46:52Speaker 1: see our whole like relationship as just like this I
- 46:57Speaker 1: don't know, like this obligation, like that's just like filled
- 47:01Speaker 1: with obligations. Ugh, that grosses me out. I got a
- 47:06Speaker 1: rumble rant from Nova fan for a dollar, Thank you,
- 47:09Speaker 1: Noba fan, and he says, the most paranoid inducing feminine
- 47:13Speaker 1: behavior I have ever had to deal with deal for
- 47:16Speaker 1: men was either walking on eggshells because he's mentally unstable
- 47:20Speaker 1: or putting up with feminine men. All right, yeah, it's
- 47:26Speaker 1: no you don't want I don't want to live like that.
- 47:28Speaker 1: I don't want to live like that. And I think
- 47:31Speaker 1: this girl actually is probably has women like this in
- 47:36Speaker 1: her orbit, which is why she's made this video obviously,
- 47:39Speaker 1: but it's really probably really hard for her because it's like, wait,
- 47:42Speaker 1: so you're not really my friends, because I mean, she's
- 47:46Speaker 1: not gonna land on that, I don't think, but that's
- 47:48Speaker 1: what it sounds like. It sounds like you're around a
- 47:50Speaker 1: bunch of people, and maybe this is like a you know,
- 47:55Speaker 1: like this entire network of women that you're in, they're
- 47:59Speaker 1: not they don't really like each other that much, but
- 48:01Speaker 1: they're just sort of like using each other for emotional
- 48:06Speaker 1: you know, stability or like a sense of belonging, but
- 48:10Speaker 1: like nothing outside of that. I don't know if that
- 48:12Speaker 1: makes sense. Allison, do you want to say anything to
- 48:17Speaker 1: that or.
- 48:20Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 48:21Speaker 2: Also, yeah, okay, sure, it's fine, Fine, it's fine, fine.
- 48:29Speaker 1: Okay, there's a little bit left in this clip, and
- 48:32Speaker 1: then I'll just pause in and let you talk.
- 48:34Speaker 3: We're gonna hold it against me when I'm not going
- 48:37Speaker 3: to immediately jump into doing the same things back for them, Right,
- 48:41Speaker 3: It's like am I a dog just because you throw
- 48:43Speaker 3: a treat at me doesn't mean that I now owe
- 48:46Speaker 3: you something. Right, if you want something, ask me and
- 48:49Speaker 3: I can figure out whether or not I'm willing to
- 48:52Speaker 3: do it for you.
- 48:53Speaker 2: It is oh yeah, yeah, But then you are in
- 49:00Speaker 2: position of declining. Right. You don't understand that it's all
- 49:06Speaker 2: about being in a position of creating pre obligations, so
- 49:10Speaker 2: you aren't in a position to decline. It's I don't know,
- 49:14Speaker 2: It's like women just seem to at least women like
- 49:18Speaker 2: this just seem to their native registers Catch twenty two's everywhere.
- 49:25Speaker 3: And I.
- 49:28Speaker 2: Don't think that this is necessarily normal female. I mean
- 49:32Speaker 2: it's normal female behavior completely absent any kind of survival
- 49:40Speaker 2: threat which would have been present throughout all of human history.
- 49:44Speaker 2: So what we're seeing now is be female behavior driven
- 49:48Speaker 2: to an extreme based on the fact that they don't
- 49:51Speaker 2: have to interact with reality anymore. So they live entirely
- 49:56Speaker 2: in these kind of webs, these top topologies that never
- 49:59Speaker 2: have to actually address real things that have to happen,
- 50:03Speaker 2: like getting the crop off, harvesting the potatoes, you know,
- 50:09Speaker 2: making sure the chickens don't die of mange or whatever.
- 50:12Speaker 2: These are physical operations that take the female mind and
- 50:15Speaker 2: put them in the real world, and that doesn't happen anymore.
- 50:18Speaker 2: Everything is avocado, toast and symbols, and that means any
- 50:24Speaker 2: kind of operation can be deferred to someone else. So
- 50:28Speaker 2: so I want to I want to repeat that I
- 50:31Speaker 2: think that this, uh is not likely the behavior of
- 50:36Speaker 2: the woman throughout human history, particularly when literally it's I mean,
- 50:41Speaker 2: at some point female home and it's had a much
- 50:44Speaker 2: closer relationship to a dangerous environment than they did after agriculture,
- 50:49Speaker 2: you know, and definitely after the Industrial Revolution. So you
- 50:53Speaker 2: got to consider that this is this is this is
- 50:58Speaker 2: a failure mode of the female brain. But it's a
- 51:02Speaker 2: failure mode we likely have not encountered since like the
- 51:06Speaker 2: Bronze Age, palace harem economies, you know, for millennia. Right,
- 51:12Speaker 2: So this is a failure mode that's definitely particular to
- 51:16Speaker 2: women's brains, but probably not as common as you think
- 51:20Speaker 2: based on this society because it's everywhere in our society
- 51:24Speaker 2: because everything is too comfortable. I mean, even if we
- 51:28Speaker 2: take urban women versus rural women, you see a difference,
- 51:32Speaker 2: Like rural women have more of a stoicism, more of
- 51:36Speaker 2: a sense of efficacy in the world, right, They adhere
- 51:40Speaker 2: to values that are closer to masculine values, and it's
- 51:43Speaker 2: because they live at an edge where they know that
- 51:47Speaker 2: there is animals that prey on humans, that there is
- 51:52Speaker 2: weather that can destroy you, you know, and there are
- 51:56Speaker 2: conditions that need to be met to survive. So there's
- 51:59Speaker 2: a difference. And you know, women in poverty probably are
- 52:01Speaker 2: in a similar situation. So even in our own cultures,
- 52:05Speaker 2: there's a gradient, and I think that gradient exactly matches
- 52:10Speaker 2: how much survival threat a woman is actually experienced in
- 52:13Speaker 2: her life. And if it's minimal, like her only survival
- 52:17Speaker 2: threat is the number on the scale, I guess then
- 52:22Speaker 2: you are going to get this behavior, the pure failure
- 52:26Speaker 2: mode of femininity. Okay, h.
- 52:33Speaker 1: All right, let's see fourteen. Yeah, here we go. There's
- 52:37Speaker 1: all of the other minute left with a woman.
- 52:39Speaker 3: They will just disappear out of nowhere and you don't
- 52:41Speaker 3: even know what happened. And then oftentimes when you do
- 52:45Speaker 3: talk to them about it, the conversations at that point
- 52:48Speaker 3: not even helpful. It's not about conflict resolution. It's just
- 52:51Speaker 3: about accusing you, and it's about letting out the resentment
- 52:56Speaker 3: because at that point they already identify you as a
- 52:59Speaker 3: bad person, because that's what it takes for them to
- 53:02Speaker 3: walk away from you or to finally communicate their issues
- 53:06Speaker 3: with you. And there's just something deeply wrong about that,
- 53:09Speaker 3: where women feel like the only way to justify their
- 53:14Speaker 3: frustration their resentment is to definitively label someone as a
- 53:19Speaker 3: bad person in order to finally say, how could you
- 53:22Speaker 3: have done this? How could you have missed this? How
- 53:24Speaker 3: could you have made this mistake? Again and again those
- 53:27Speaker 3: days where I talk to you less, How could you
- 53:29Speaker 3: have not seen that there is an issue there and
- 53:32Speaker 3: the issue was this? And you should have done this
- 53:34Speaker 3: in order to resolve the issue. I shouldn't have brought
- 53:37Speaker 3: it up to you. You should have saw the signs
- 53:38Speaker 3: and the signals. You should have known. How has he
- 53:41Speaker 3: not noticed that?
- 53:41Speaker 1: I'm so yeah. So, basically, you get in trouble for
- 53:50Speaker 1: something you didn't know you did, and then when you
- 53:53Speaker 1: they won't talk to you about it, they won't explain
- 53:55Speaker 1: where it comes from or what happened, and when if
- 53:58Speaker 1: you do manage to sit down, they just attack you.
- 54:02Speaker 1: They've just decided you're guilty. That's basically, yeah, welcome to
- 54:06Speaker 1: everything men deal with all the time where we don't
- 54:12Speaker 1: know what we did. You know, men, we don't know
- 54:15Speaker 1: what we did because you don't. The women don't want
- 54:18Speaker 1: to talk to him about it. In general, they just
- 54:22Speaker 1: expect men to like intuit it and just be like
- 54:26Speaker 1: able to read it, and that it's childish. It's childish.
- 54:29Speaker 1: It's like it's like when a baby's crying, you got
- 54:32Speaker 1: to figure out what the baby wants. The only reason
- 54:34Speaker 1: why you can't figure it out is because the baby
- 54:36Speaker 1: can't talk. When your dog is barking at you, you know,
- 54:40Speaker 1: and like circling, you have a few guesses as to
- 54:44Speaker 1: what he wants, but the dog can't talk, so you
- 54:48Speaker 1: have to kind of like, you know, try different things
- 54:50Speaker 1: to see. But he doesn't resent you for not knowing.
- 54:52Speaker 1: The baby's not angry at you. It's just like he
- 54:56Speaker 1: just pooped his pants, or he's hungry, or he's tired
- 54:59Speaker 1: or whatever. With human women that are able to speak words,
- 55:06Speaker 1: you should expect that they will be able to tell us.
- 55:09Speaker 1: But they I don't know. I don't know what it is.
- 55:11Speaker 1: I think that they feel unsafe if people can't into
- 55:15Speaker 1: it their needs. I think that's why they are are
- 55:18Speaker 1: the way they are. But that's just a guess. They
- 55:21Speaker 1: feel unsafe because it means that there are people who
- 55:23Speaker 1: are not paying attention to them.
- 55:25Speaker 2: You know, yeah, well their best chance at getting someone
- 55:31Speaker 2: who intuits their needs as a husband and not a wife.
- 55:39Speaker 2: And even then, you know, like you might want to
- 55:41Speaker 2: actually give your husband a chance and understand how men work,
- 55:48Speaker 2: so you don't expect him to ask like the cliff.
- 55:51Speaker 2: This is the funny thing. This guy has probably done
- 55:54Speaker 2: a ton of stuff that required him to intuit what
- 55:58Speaker 2: she wanted, right, and she doesn't even see it because
- 56:04Speaker 2: it's invisible. And that's the point. He doesn't want to
- 56:07Speaker 2: actually put that on her. How much he does actually
- 56:11Speaker 2: do in order to make her life easier, you know,
- 56:15Speaker 2: probably things that she doesn't even realize because they just
- 56:17Speaker 2: happen and they're invisible because the thing that they prevented
- 56:21Speaker 2: didn't happen. You see what I'm saying. Jonathan or Jonathan Brian? Yeah, sorry,
- 56:28Speaker 2: sorry Brian. Goddamn, you know I sometimes call Jonathan Brian too.
- 56:36Speaker 2: That's that's really awkward. But yeah, like they intuit like
- 56:44Speaker 2: things that need to happen to prevent something, and you
- 56:46Speaker 2: never know because the thing that they prevented didn't happen.
- 56:49Speaker 2: So it's like it's something you don't notice, things that
- 56:52Speaker 2: didn't happen, right, And she he's probably doing all kinds
- 56:55Speaker 2: of stuff like that for her, but he's not as
- 56:59Speaker 2: capable of understanding things in terms of relational web thinking
- 57:03Speaker 2: because that's not his native modality. So he doesn't understand
- 57:07Speaker 2: that she's creating an obligation for him to and if
- 57:11Speaker 2: he does, honestly, ladies, if there's anybody listening, if there's
- 57:15Speaker 2: any lady out there smart enough to actually be listening
- 57:18Speaker 2: to us rather than manifestel, if he does understand the
- 57:23Speaker 2: social web, run, do not walk. Run. Those men are
- 57:30Speaker 2: actually genuinely dangerous because their cognitive their cognitive center isn't
- 57:37Speaker 2: in custodial monitoring, it's in relational manipulation. Those are the sociopaths,
- 57:44Speaker 2: and that's why they're so attractive to women because they
- 57:47Speaker 2: can model how women think. But they do so in
- 57:50Speaker 2: the same way that you know, cats make sounds that
- 57:53Speaker 2: sound like they're prey, or leopards have spots, so they
- 57:59Speaker 2: they are camera flaged. It's because they use that as camouflage,
- 58:04Speaker 2: and they use that as enticement, you know, like the
- 58:07Speaker 2: deep deep sea fish with the light. That's what they're doing.
- 58:13Speaker 2: I mean, it's a small subset of men, but that's
- 58:15Speaker 2: what they're doing. So if the guy is the guy
- 58:19Speaker 2: is verbally fluent and he isn't like a troubadour who's
- 58:23Speaker 2: had to learn to be that way and had to
- 58:27Speaker 2: cultivate the skill over decades, then that actually is bad.
- 58:33Speaker 2: That actually is a red red flag because again, the
- 58:38Speaker 2: weight of cognitive processing isn't in the custodial it's in
- 58:43Speaker 2: the relationship management. And men who are in relationship management
- 58:49Speaker 2: as opposed to custodial don't actually give a fuck about you.
- 58:53Speaker 2: So the guy, this guy being like, I didn't ask
- 58:56Speaker 2: you about your cor that's exactly what you want. I mean,
- 59:01Speaker 2: if he did, it's not necessarily like a huge red flag,
- 59:05Speaker 2: and don't want to oversell it. He might just dumb.
- 59:09Speaker 2: I don't know, he might just have learned from previous
- 59:12Speaker 2: relationships what to do. But if jen in general, he's
- 59:17Speaker 2: that fluid, especially right off the bat, that's not a
- 59:20Speaker 2: good thing. There's a reason why they call it the
- 59:23Speaker 2: sociopathic personality style and that it's particularly attractive to women.
- 59:28Speaker 2: It's because it is relationally manipulative in the way women are.
- 59:32Speaker 2: But then again, That means their cognitive center of gravity
- 59:35Speaker 2: isn't in that custodia layer, It's in that relational layer.
- 59:40Speaker 2: And that's not a good sign for a man. Okay,
- 59:43Speaker 2: let's keep going, all right, I got.
- 59:45Speaker 1: Another super chow and then I'll play the rest of this.
- 59:48Speaker 1: There's like ten or so seconds left in this one.
- 59:51Speaker 1: About yeah, about ten seconds. Grant Indors gives us five
- 59:55Speaker 1: dollars and says obligatory superchow for relational web purposes. So
- 59:59Speaker 1: when he say night's outfits that both of you are
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: wearing today, I could never have the courage to wear
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: anything quite like it. Hi, he twirls hair and shoot daggers.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: Okay, I really appreciate the super childs, but could somebody
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: just take a moment to go to feed the Badger
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: dot com slash support and put something through so I
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: know that this is working. Feed the Badger dot com
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: slash You ever.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: To check the bulls on that too?
- 1:00:26Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I am checking the bulls. Okay, like, just
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: five bucks, anybody just go there support. I'm going to
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: stop harassing you to do this.
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: Yeah, you should have saw the signs and the signals.
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: You should have known how is he not noticed that
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: I'm mad at him. We haven't talked in twenty minutes.
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: I hear it all the time, whether it's relationship, friendship
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: or whatever, this overarching theme of they should have known,
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: you should.
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: Have known, and yeah, basically it's it's yeah, unworkable, all right?
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: So yes, I mean that's okay. Sixteen fifty nine, next one,
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: who sixteen fifty nine.
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: This is why women need to be on farms. Here here,
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: hear me out. This is why women need the homestead. Okay,
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: when you know there's twenty minutes of silence for a
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: woman who's homesteading, that's going to be filled with okay,
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: which which chickens are gimpy and I have to rotate
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: into like the the convalescence hut. Where are the cows calving?
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: What's happening with the lambs? You know that kind of
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: thing where what crop rotation needs, all of the stuff
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: that occupies the brain of somebody who has to manage
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: a working farm starts to fill that space. It's probably
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: why the Bible is really clear. I think it's Proverbs
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: thirty one. You know, the woman who is a good
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: wife is busy doing things that materially benefit her family,
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: even investing funds in things, just doing something that actually
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: is materially benefiting people other than herself and isn't like
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: a status plays. It's about building something, you know. It's
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: because we need to occupy those twenty minutes with something
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: other than Why is he ignoring me? He hates me?
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: He must think I'm an ugly beast. I can't believe
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: that he would do this to me. You know, that
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: needs to be occupied with chickens, eggs, egg aprons, taking
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: care of kids, taking care of animals, taking care of vegetables.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: You know, that's what needs to go there. That's just
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: my theory or conjecture. It isn't proven, all right, okay, to.
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: Know when you're hurt, to know when you have a
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: so and need a certain expectation unless you have already
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: talked to them about it directly and given them a
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: chance to show you whether or not they're able to
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: implement that knowledge into the relationship. And a lot of
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: female dynamics are born from them genuinely thinking it's a
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: reasonable expectation that other people should know what they should
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: and shouldn't do, say and shouldn't say without an overt
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: explicit conversation about it.
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: So she's basically just detests the idea of this expectation
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: like that, like there's non communication happening, but you're supposed
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: to just know. Oh god, I'm with you, lady, I
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: am one hundred percent with you. So and uh yeah, no,
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: I won't I won't do it. I won't do it,
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: And you end up in a situation where you have
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: to like check in on people like are you okay,
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: what's on your mind? What are you thinking? Oh God,
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: I can't do it. Just tell me, just fucking tell me, dude.
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: I'm gonna ignore you. I'm gonna ignore you until you
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: just tell me. So, Alison, do you want to say anything?
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: Or should I keep going? All right, I'm gonna keep
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: going then, all right? So what no, what are we
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: at now?
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: I was needed. I'm trying to figure out if the
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: fundraiser is not working or if nobody's actually going once again,
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: feed the Badger dot com slash support. Can somebody put
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: me out of my misery? Like five bucks, ten bucks,
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: just so I know that this is actually working because
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: I had to do a whole bunch of stuff. All right, Okay,
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: let's keep going.
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: Hause Women are taught to be agreeable, to not complain,
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: to not directly express their needs, to avoid overt confrontation.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: Do you honestly think men are wanting this?
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: She's saying women are taught this that that that was
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: what I was going to point out. Women are taught
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: not to be confrontational, so it's completely out of their control. Guys,
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: they can't help it. They were socialized to be like this.
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: They like nobody like men don't want them to be
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: like this, like this, as we can see because she
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: uses this as a framing for female artists. But what
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: this is directed at is that men. Men are the
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: ones who are going to be hurting as a result
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: of this behavior, not the women. The women are the
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: ones who are getting angry and abusing the men for
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: behaving in a way consistent with how men are. You
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. So then she's turning around and saying, well,
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: who's socializing them to do it this way? It's not men.
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: Do you think men want women angry at them? Do
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: you think this is some kind of conspiracy for men
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: to be like I want my wife to be pissed
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: at me and emotionally abuse me and nag me. That's
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: what that's my Those are goals in my life. No,
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: you are. You are taking the one who has the entitlement,
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: has the abusive mindset, and you are blaming her behavior
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: on her victim, which is the man. And I know
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: that this is all like said in jest, right It
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: said like, oh, this is just humorous what these women
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: are doing to their partners. But I would argue that, no,
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: we make it humorous because we want to deflect from it.
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: But this is actually abusive. Creating these cash twenty twos
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: that your partner gets sucked into is abusive behavior, like
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: flat out. So she's essentially saying that women can't help
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: the fact that they're abusive. Well, then they should be
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: taken out of every position of power and any kind
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: of control over children. Is that what you want to
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: say about women? Women are just taught to be abusive
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: and they can't control it, all right. Well, if that's
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: the case, then women can't be in positions of responsibility
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: over anyone. I don't have any more to say though,
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: all right.
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: Instead of directly telling you there's an issue, many women
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: will continue smiling at you, They'll continue acting friendly toward you,
- 1:07:40Speaker 3: all while resentment is actually quietly building underneath the surface.
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: And so when the day finally comes where they suddenly
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: ghost you, they cut you off, they turn cold, You're
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: left sitting there trying to reverse engineer what happened? Was
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: it my tone? Was it my body language? Was it
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: something I forgot to say? Was it something I said
- 1:07:59Speaker 3: too bluntly? Did I not text back fast enough? Did
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: I feel to emotionally mirror them correctly? Did I unknowingly
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: violate some sort of invisible social contract? And because nobody
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: explicitly tells you what happened, you end up trapped in
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: this cycle of hypervigilance and self analysis. This is why
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: so many autistic people, when dealing with these sorts of
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: relational dynamics, we end up just ruminating on what could
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: have went wrong? What did we do wrong?
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: And we it's their fault. Fuck them, That's what I say.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: It's their fault. Just just get on with your life.
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: If they're going to act that way, don't don't engage.
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: Be like, look, I'm not the kind of person that
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: does this. If they know you're autistic according to your
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: you know what you say is true, then they're the
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: ones being insensitive and instead of like rather like you know,
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: sort of countering resentment with or resentment just check out,
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: just say, look, I'm not doing this. I'm not playing
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: these games because that's what they are. They're games. They're
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: testing you to see how much you care about them,
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: because they're insecure. Yeh, Coloid says, why is she applying
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: her mental illness at one? She's not, She's just talking
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: about her experience. But what she doesn't realize. I don't
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: know what her channel is really about because I I
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: don't watch her content or anything. But what she doesn't
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: realize is that what she's expressing the frustration is like
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: most men and know this, they have this, we make
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: we make jokes about it, we have ways to sort
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: of like you know, talk about it. But it's not
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: it's not like a thing that autistic women deal with.
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: I think it's for people who are normal brained. Maybe
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't want to be mean,
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: but like, I don't think you have to be on
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: the spectrum to recognize that that's like kind of abuse behavior.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: It is abusive. So anyway, somebody send in some support
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: because Alison's like distracted, she can't she can't actually comment
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: on the video right now. It appears that's the end
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: of that time code. Now whether the next one like
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: links right into this one though, So I'm just gonna
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: play it from here. She's gonna talk about the Yeah,
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: more of this hyper vigilant stuff.
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: End up just.
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: Picking ourselves apart for probably hundreds of reasons that don't
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: even matter.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: But it's because, you know, what's interesting is that you're
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: overthinking what these people are doing to you. And what
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: these people have done, these other women have done, is
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: a product of their own overthinking. So you're overthinking, they're overthinking,
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: and this is why you should just be direct. But
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: you know, women are the great communicators, guys. They know
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: how to communicate. They're they're emotionally intelligent.
- 1:11:01Speaker 3: You know.
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: Nova Fan twenty one gives us a dollar and says,
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: the only blame I put on anything man related are
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: the simps who protect milady a woman's crying. We must
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: tear up the constitution a remedy the lady's distress. Nah
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: f them, thank you, Noba fan. Yeah, yeah, that's a problem.
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: White Night's are a big problem. Okay, we don't know what.
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: Happened that we have to just keep looking for what
- 1:11:31Speaker 3: went wrong. Think about it. You know, if there's any neurotypical,
- 1:11:36Speaker 3: non autistic person watching this, when you're non autistic, you
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: could generally understand, Okay, I see why this person's frustrated
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: with me, or I could see why this falling out happened.
- 1:11:46Speaker 3: I did this, or I feel to do this. But
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: as an autistic person, you could genuinely be so so
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: so lost as to what you could have said or
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: did wrong, how you could have failed. And so from
- 1:12:00Speaker 3: our point of view, you could be doing the most
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: trying to maintain a relationship and then out of nowhere
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: someone disappears, or out of nowhere someone doesn't like you anymore,
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: and then you're immediately faced with the consequence without even
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: knowing that the consequence was coming.
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta just accept it, like women don't integrate
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: certain types of individual as well, and you just have
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: to accept it and move on with your life.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm.
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: Not exactly sure what it is that's so critical about
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: being part of this the relation web. The truth is
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: that this relational web has almost no connection to any
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: kind of resources, and for the most part, is just destructive.
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying that all relational webs are like that,
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: but modern day relational webs for women are incredibly destructive
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: and toxic and they're probably not worth being part of.
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: You remove it from your life. It's like deffooing a
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: toxic relative. You remove it from your life and you're
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: going to find it a lot better now. Of course,
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: with normal, more normal women, they have mother need or
- 1:13:12Speaker 2: whatever it is that keeps them adhering to the toxic
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: expectations of the sisterhood and so they're not going to
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: be able to exit it. But as an autistic woman,
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: you should be able to have a little bit more
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: leeway on that. And it's not your fault. Like people
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: will say that you exiting the sisterhood and you deciding
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: not to play by the relational webs rules is some
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: kind of failing. It's not. You have every right to
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: set those boundaries and say no, I'm not going to
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: deal with women who try to silence me. I'm not
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: going to deal with women who play these stupid games.
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: I'm not going to deal with women who are overtly
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: abusive and think that this is an acceptable way to
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: conduct a relationship, using catch twenty twos and pre loading
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: obligation because they're they don't want to deal with the
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: potential of rejection, or they want to make you into
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: a supplicant. That was the word, a supplicant, right. All
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: of this behavior is utterly toxic, and it's showing up
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: in their own statistics, like the statistics of normal women.
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: They're miserable. And the more objective you look at in
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: terms of measures like health days missed SSRIs, diagnoses of
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: mental health disorders, the more you look at the more
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: concrete measures, the more miserable, Like even more miserable women
- 1:14:33Speaker 2: have gotten over the generations as this is, this social
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: web has become more entrenched and toxic. So why would
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: you want to take part in that? Like what benefit
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: do you get out of it? Like these women don't
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: control any resources, right, and how much benefit do you
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: get out of like this this vague warmth and affiliation
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: if you know, at the end of the day, it
- 1:14:57Speaker 2: hides a bunch of meat hooks that could tear you
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: apart of them, Like just be like, yeah, no, that's okay,
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm fine. And if you're able to do that,
- 1:15:08Speaker 2: that doesn't make you a bad woman. You're not obligated
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: to them. That's the big thing. None of us are
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: obligated to a toxic relational web created by a sisterhood
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: of predators, predators. We're not obligated to what was the
- 1:15:23Speaker 2: the female spider in in a Lord of the Rings,
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: forget the name. Yeah, you're not obligated to she lob
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: and she loves sisters. All right, You're not obligated to
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: take part. It's not necessary. It's not it's not. It
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: doesn't make you a bad person to just walk away
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: from it.
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe you feel kind of also worrying about her,
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: like this whole thing. She's still concerned about her position
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: within the the web as well, So.
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why, Yeah, she still wants to be
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: part of it. But the thing is that it's not
- 1:16:05Speaker 2: going to change. Maybe what you can do is step
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: out of it and create a web that's healthier, like
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: a set of relationships that are less toxic, if you
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: need that from other women. But you're just not going
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: to get it from the current relational web. You are
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: not going to get a fair shake. You know. Maybe
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: you're thinking you can exchange the recognition of your victimhood
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: as an artistic woman for a fair shake in the sisterhood.
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: Eh No, because they don't fundamentally understand the mentality of
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: autistic people. Right, and all you'll get is condescension and
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: becoming someone's pet. You want that, it's its own kind
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: of misery, all right? Keep going? All right?
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: I got a super chow from official Verse Traditionalism channel
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: on YouTube for five dollars and they say the fundraiser
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: is in fact not working for me.
- 1:17:08Speaker 2: Oh, for God's sake, So that's what it is. Yeah,
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: does anybody else have this problem?
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: Okay, I will start the next section.
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: What well that explains it?
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, I'm gonna play the next section called enmeshment,
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: So here we go.
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: I think about female dynamics. That genuinely scares me is
- 1:17:33Speaker 3: how much we're socialized to emesh with each other. Now,
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: for those of you who may not know what immeshment means,
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: it is basically a relationship pattern where emotional boundaries are
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: so blurred that individuals lose their sense of self. This
- 1:17:49Speaker 3: is very, very very prominent within female dynamics. Enmeshment is
- 1:17:56Speaker 3: so so so deeply ingrained in how women tend to
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: bond with other people. I am you, you are me,
- 1:18:03Speaker 3: there's nothing I say or do that you wouldn't say
- 1:18:06Speaker 3: or do, and therefore you shouldn't say or do things
- 1:18:10Speaker 3: that I wouldn't. Right that, there's this constant need to
- 1:18:12Speaker 3: like be as similar to each other and assimilate it
- 1:18:16Speaker 3: to each other as possible.
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: I remember a lot of my futures A deposit there,
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: just you know, for there's more to this than that.
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right, So.
- 1:18:25Speaker 2: I want to do a big shout out to the
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: grain indoors who put seven hundred and fifty dollars through
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: the old project for the fundraiser or the old product
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: for the fundraiser, So thank you. I'm guessing it's because
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: the current one doesn't work, which is really unfortunate, and
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: that would explain why nobody's put anything through for the
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: last two days. That's really unfortunate. But thank you for
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: getting the work around. And I can apply this manually,
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: so I appreciate it. And I don't know. I guess, uh,
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: I guess guys. For now you go to feed the
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: badger dot com slash Badger dash media dash blitz Badger.
- 1:19:07Speaker 2: Let me just double check that media blitz and put
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: it through the old link. Nope, that's the same one,
- 1:19:16Speaker 2: so I don't even Oh wait, pro it's a products badger,
- 1:19:20Speaker 2: so okay, so it is feed the Badger dot com
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: slash products slash Badger, dash Media dash blitz, and you
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: can put it through there and and I will put
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: it through to the current fundraiser manually. I do have
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: a message to them about a horse, of course, and
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: hopefully that will get back to me. We can get
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: this fixed. So it is true that it's broken. Thank you,
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: I'm glad we could do this. Wonderful, wonderful, Oh god, damn, thanks.
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: Forgetting it working. Well, it works every time Anchorman sound
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: bites in one show. All right, so play a little
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: bit more of this one.
- 1:20:23Speaker 2: Well.
- 1:20:23Speaker 3: Friends would change what they were wearing or looking like
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: depending on what I was choosing to wear and look like.
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: Little things like if I was going out with a friend,
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: she would call me ahead of time and ask me,
- 1:20:34Speaker 3: what are you wearing? What is your makeup going to
- 1:20:37Speaker 3: look like? What are you gonna do with your hair?
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: And little things like that made me feel really suffocated
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: because it's like, I don't want you to change yourself
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: to match me, right, And that was deeply ingrained and
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: a lot of my female friendships throughout my life is
- 1:20:51Speaker 3: just this need to be exactly like each other and
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: you don't have space to be your own person or.
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so that's weird, but women do do that,
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: so I think. And and yet they don't want you
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: to wear the same clothes, like they don't want you
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: to dress the same, but they want to match in
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: some way. They want to coordinate. That's more. I think
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: it's like social signaling your friend group. I guess, like,
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: oh we And the whole thing about the enmeshment. It
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: reminds me of the scene from Midsummer I always go
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: back to this scene where the girl, the main character
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: girl starts crying and a whole bunch of other women
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: who she doesn't even know. They all crowd around her
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: and huddle and they all cry together even though they
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: don't know her. They don't have any reason to cry themselves,
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: but they want to create like this group cry. And
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: so they group cry together and it's super creepy. And
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: I saw it. I was like, this is fucking weird.
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: I'm very uncomfortable, but I think it was it was
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: saying something very interesting. It was a cult. But I
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: think that this is also like how they sort of
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: signal that we're all in this together even though I
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: don't know you and all that just weird. Dude, all right,
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going then.
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm trying to figure this out.
- 1:22:21Speaker 3: Sorry, all right, be autonomous without it directly triggering your
- 1:22:26Speaker 3: female friend. For example, if I tell my female friend
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: I want to put some time and effort into learning
- 1:22:33Speaker 3: American sign language, right, instead of her taking curiosity over
- 1:22:38Speaker 3: this interest of mine, immediately she starts picking herself apart.
- 1:22:42Speaker 3: Oh my god, I feel like I'm so lazy. I
- 1:22:44Speaker 3: feel like during my free time, all I do is
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: rest and eat and sleep, And I feel like I
- 1:22:49Speaker 3: should probably start learning something new too. Oh, I'm so useless.
- 1:22:53Speaker 3: Either that or she'll start being defensive. Right. Oh, I
- 1:22:57Speaker 3: just feel like I work all the time and I
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: don't even have free time. I mean, whatever free time
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: I have, I feel like all I could do is
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: just rest and nap and do chores. I don't have
- 1:23:05Speaker 3: as much free time as you to learn a language.
- 1:23:08Speaker 3: It's like there's a weird thing where instead of seeing
- 1:23:10Speaker 3: you as your own person, she sees you as a
- 1:23:13Speaker 3: measuring tool for herself.
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the relational web thinking. Yeah, and you don't like,
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: I actually wonder if autistic women are literally just women
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: who have V one at R activation cross activation, Like
- 1:23:32Speaker 2: they're just literally like either they have it, either they
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: have had experiences that encourage it, or alternatively, they're like
- 1:23:42Speaker 2: a sub genotype that just activates more readily. That makes
- 1:23:48Speaker 2: sense because this is uh, like, yeah, this is entirely,
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: entirely explained by relational web thinking, like, yes, they just
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: see you in terms of their own status. There's some
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: weird feedback going on, Brian. They just see you in
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: terms of yeah, all right, go ahead, Yeah, they just
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: see you in terms of some their own status, their
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: own relationship in the web. Like she's literally describing what
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: I've been talking about with the relational web and the topology,
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: and also describing how shallow the connections are between people
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: in this It really is about resources, not actual affection,
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: and not actually understanding each other as individuals. It's just
- 1:24:32Speaker 2: which is hilarious because the most important thing, apparently for
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: members of the relational web is to be seen. Well,
- 1:24:38Speaker 2: you're not going to be seen by people who only
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: see you in terms of what you say about themselves,
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: Like they're constantly seeking what they can only get from
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: a man. Let's be honest. Okay, shall we continue. There's
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: some weird sort of feedback going on, like are you
- 1:24:59Speaker 2: here the mic is a little overdriven.
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: Or yours?
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: Yours? Like yeah, it's like overdriven, Like it's too it's peaking.
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: It's real weird.
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: Uh do you guys get that? It could be it
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: could just be the.
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: Fine now it's fine.
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: Now, Oh that's weird.
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: Yeah it is, okay, all right, let's let's keep all.
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: Right, let's keep going. This is fifteen. There's a little
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: bit left in this.
- 1:25:31Speaker 3: Clip, like thirty seconds, and so now you're given the responsibility.
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: I just wanted to add I think this sounds just
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: like a woman who is pretending to care about something
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: you're doing, but just wants to talk about herself. So
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: that's why she's like, oh the woman that she's referring to,
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: that's like, oh my god, I'm so lazy. I wish
- 1:25:52Speaker 1: I had time to do stuff. I wish I had
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: time to learn something new, but I'm so tired all
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: the time. I feel like such a loser, And it's
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: like phishing for oh, no, you're fine, you're great. No,
- 1:26:03Speaker 1: I just you know, it's like fishing for people to
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: like just give them this kind of unconditional moral support
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: or or just shower them with compliments and useless drivel
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: like maybe you are lazy, maybe you should do something
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: else with your life. I don't know, but I think
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: that women are all well, this is like also just
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: com it's the problem of comparing yourself to someone else.
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: You know, she's comparing herself and it's just like you
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: shouldn't do that.
- 1:26:35Speaker 3: It's not good for you anyway of needing to reassure
- 1:26:40Speaker 3: her of her existence. Oh, you're doing fine. You don't
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: have to learn asl if you don't want to. You
- 1:26:46Speaker 3: could nap on your free time if you want to,
- 1:26:49Speaker 3: Or you have to do emotional labor for her when
- 1:26:52Speaker 3: she's defensive and telling you that she doesn't have free
- 1:26:57Speaker 3: time to learn something new, and you have to be like, okay, yeah,
- 1:27:00Speaker 3: you don't have to learn something new if you don't
- 1:27:01Speaker 3: want to, or you have to downplay yourself to make
- 1:27:05Speaker 3: herself feel better. That's even worse, where you have to
- 1:27:07Speaker 3: be like, oh, yeah, I do have all this free time,
- 1:27:10Speaker 3: and I may as well do something useful with it,
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: because otherwise I would have nothing to do with myself.
- 1:27:15Speaker 3: I'm not as busy as you.
- 1:27:16Speaker 2: You're doing.
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: Oh I'm dying, I'm dying.
- 1:27:22Speaker 2: Yeah, status joking, it's all status jocking. Yeah.
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: Exhausting is what it is. It's exhausting, all right, twenty
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: four oh eight. This is about how autistic women are
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: vulnerable with it because they'll be misinterpreted as arrogant or manipulative.
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: Let's see, tell my autist that sounds like what men
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: are often misinterpreted. This is what I find interesting about
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: this is that all the stuff that she's like talking
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: about that she's experiencing as a quote an autistic woman,
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: end quote, just sounds like stuff men deal with. Who
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: would have thought?
- 1:28:10Speaker 3: But okay, group consensus becomes incredibly powerful tools, and unfortunately,
- 1:28:17Speaker 3: marginalized women often become the easiest targets within those systems,
- 1:28:23Speaker 3: especially autistic women, because.
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so now she's the biggest female victim of
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: this relational web stuff. Now she's making this like marginalized
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: people argument for this. All right, you lost me there, lady.
- 1:28:42Speaker 3: Autistic women often don't perform the expected social rituals correctly.
- 1:28:48Speaker 3: We may not flatter correctly, we may not emotionally mirror correctly.
- 1:28:52Speaker 3: We may not socially rank correctly, We may not participate
- 1:28:56Speaker 3: in gossip correctly. We may not understand alliance building correctly.
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: And if you do, don't you know that, like socially
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: ranking people and gossiping, those are not good qualities. Those
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: are not good things to do. It's they're they're not
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: they're not qualities that you want to be able to
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: be a better participant in. There are things that you
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: want to reduce because they they're very destructive and if
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: you use recklessly. I mean, there's a purpose to like
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: communicating information about you know, like like you know, we say, well,
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: where does gossip come from? Because it's not like something
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: that exists on its own, and it's not like it's
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: something that's completely useless and without any value. But there's
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: I think that if you did it in a way
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: that was good, which is essentially communicating news about people
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: in the social web as it were, that's what it was,
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: what it would have been good for in a way
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: that's productive. You know, you probably wouldn't even call it gossip.
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: You just call it's something else, something like news.
- 1:30:02Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: But now we're good to the point now because we
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: just assumed that whatever, however women do anything is by
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: default good, especially if it's done by a majority.
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: Then yeah, why would you want to be Yeah, this
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: is like, honestly, now that I think about it, a
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: lot of these Christian kind of expectations sort of tamped
- 1:30:26Speaker 2: down on the negatives of the social web. But why
- 1:30:29Speaker 2: would you want a gossip or create coalitions or do
- 1:30:33Speaker 2: any of this properly? These are like not good things,
- 1:30:37Speaker 2: like Brian is saying no no Gospels.
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: Actually is actually a sin, not like it not, you know,
- 1:30:44Speaker 1: it's not like murder or anything, but it's it's it's
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: basically erodes social trusts, it can break down communities, it
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: can be very destructive, so it's seen as a sin.
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: It's called let's say, frivolous you use of language, you know,
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: so because you're using it for using it to hurt
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: people or to you, and it usually involves lying or
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: exaggerating or dramatizing, you know, hyperbole, things like that.
- 1:31:18Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but I think it's more than frivolous. It's
- 1:31:22Speaker 2: actually very destructive.
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: No, I know, but I'm saying it's called frivolous speech
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: or wasteful speech, So I'm not saying that, like all
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: wasteful speech is gossip. I mean said gossip is is
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: like a form of that, but it's it's there's a
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: lot of harm that it can do. So Great Indoor says, well, shit,
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: did I do it again? I was trying to donate
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: through the current fundraiser? Where's the correct link?
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: Okay, I know I'm not I'm not I'm not saying
- 1:31:56Speaker 2: uh at you, Great Indoors. I'm just I'm just doing that.
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: She's frustrated with the fundraisers. Yeah, so you got support
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: back up again? Is that the one?
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one. Go to there and it should
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: it should give you. I wonder if it's not giving
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: the correct it's not going to the correct place. But
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: great Indoors, go to that link. Just click that link
- 1:32:29Speaker 2: and tell me where you go. It should have the
- 1:32:31Speaker 2: the the shorts badger with a cigarette like aviation badger
- 1:32:37Speaker 2: with a cigarette on it. All right, let's let's let's
- 1:32:40Speaker 2: how many more time goes? Are there?
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: This one? Which is this one? And two more? But
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: we don't have to do them all. There's there's three
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: basically good all.
- 1:32:52Speaker 3: Right, understand the rules of the system. You become incredibly
- 1:32:57Speaker 3: vulnerable inside it.
- 1:32:59Speaker 2: And I also think, well everybody else, like lady, like
- 1:33:03Speaker 2: every woman, there are women who are perfectly non autistic
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: who play this badly and get slammed. You are wanting
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: a cheet code? Yeah, that, which when we should really
- 1:33:18Speaker 2: be asking is this a game that women should be
- 1:33:21Speaker 2: playing in the first place? Yep, you wanting a cheet
- 1:33:26Speaker 2: code does not make you better than anyone else, nor
- 1:33:30Speaker 2: does it obligate people to give it to you.
- 1:33:35Speaker 3: Yuh So, okay, all rightquences of this gets amplified when
- 1:33:41Speaker 3: you are a woman yourself and you are conventionally attractive,
- 1:33:46Speaker 3: because when other women see that you are also a woman,
- 1:33:51Speaker 3: they expect you to know about those social contracts and
- 1:33:55Speaker 3: be operating within those social contracts, and so they're going
- 1:33:58Speaker 3: to be harder on you when you miss certain signals.
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: They don't think, they're pretty hard on when too, they're
- 1:34:06Speaker 2: pretty damn hard.
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: I mean, I think they just assume men are just
- 1:34:09Speaker 1: dumb and don't get it, so they're ready to be
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: mean to them. I think with women, they're just surprised, like, what,
- 1:34:17Speaker 1: you don't get it?
- 1:34:18Speaker 2: You're not a man, And yet they don't have any
- 1:34:22Speaker 2: forgiveness for men. Not getting it.
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: M No, of course, not.
- 1:34:28Speaker 3: Missed a signal. They will oftentimes judge oh Irene purposefully
- 1:34:33Speaker 3: didn't reciprocate me or near me because she doesn't want to,
- 1:34:37Speaker 3: because she isn't an ally you know, things like that,
- 1:34:40Speaker 3: Whereas let's say a woman judging a man, she might
- 1:34:44Speaker 3: be more forgiving, like, ugh, men just don't know whatever.
- 1:34:47Speaker 3: You know. Again, I'm generalizing, but women tend to be
- 1:34:50Speaker 3: a lot harder on other women than they are of
- 1:34:53Speaker 3: men when it comes to these sort of invisible social
- 1:34:57Speaker 3: contracts and rules.
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: I mean, that might be true because they don't have
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: high expectations of men anyway. In that regard, it's sort
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: of like, you know, women who are anti feminists probably
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: get it heart worse than men who are anti feminists
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: because they assume that men are opposed to it anyway.
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: But a woman that's opposed to it is like a trader.
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: It's like they hate traders more than the enemy, you know,
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: I mean as an example, So.
- 1:35:30Speaker 2: I'm not exactly Yeah, And it does feel that way,
- 1:35:32Speaker 2: doesn't it. Even though I would say that I I
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: don't know, being a trader to Sheilab, I think that's
- 1:35:39Speaker 2: actually not a bad thing. Sure, I'm not going to
- 1:35:42Speaker 2: be part of a relational web that's controlled by a
- 1:35:44Speaker 2: bunch of Shelab and her sisters.
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: You just put in my mind like she Loab the
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: spider from Lord of the Rings. But she's like a
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: live streamer that like collects money and says sprinkle sprinkle,
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: because it sounds like Sheira, but it's she Lob, just
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: she Lob with a weave and some big old hoop
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: ear rings or some like really big earrings, just you
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: know that, quietly sitting in front of a mirror, not
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: not speaking for several moments and occasionally just saying sprinkle sprinkle.
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: But anyway, anyway, so let's see, there's twenty four. There's
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: another minute at this one about thirty seconds she's in
- 1:36:30Speaker 1: her a racketid era.
- 1:36:31Speaker 3: Yes, And I think conventionally attractive women end up being
- 1:36:38Speaker 3: targeted more because people oftentimes assumes that attractive women are
- 1:36:44Speaker 3: socially aware, strategic intentional, and socially skilled.
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: So this is a humble brag. Are you talking about yourself?
- 1:36:52Speaker 3: Now? Yeah?
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it's like min Okay, well she's not.
- 1:37:04Speaker 2: She might be better looking off camera because wide faces
- 1:37:07Speaker 2: tend to be Yeah, but like, I I know the
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: I know the pain of having a wide face. Let
- 1:37:15Speaker 2: me tell you. I come on screen and people are like, oh,
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: the full moon's out, like.
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: It's mac den.
- 1:37:24Speaker 2: I I'm sorry lot more when the moon hits your Like, okay,
- 1:37:33Speaker 2: I'll stop. But yeah, so she might actually be more
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: attractive in person. That's entirely possible. But yeah, that does
- 1:37:39Speaker 2: feel a little bit like a humble brag. But also again,
- 1:37:45Speaker 2: she's complaining about not being able to rape and pillage
- 1:37:47Speaker 2: like the other warlords. Guys, guys, I'm just not able.
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: I feel like I'm.
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: I'm being left out of this. Like you might want
- 1:37:59Speaker 2: to put some brakes on here and think about whether
- 1:38:03Speaker 2: or not you should really be engaging it in the
- 1:38:05Speaker 2: first place because this behavior, Like what she's saying is
- 1:38:09Speaker 2: I am the victim of this behavior. Will you want
- 1:38:11Speaker 2: to be good at it? Or you want to get
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: a cheat code so you can victimize other people with
- 1:38:16Speaker 2: this behavior? You want sympathy for that, Like I don't
- 1:38:22Speaker 2: think so, I'm not gonna get it from me. Like, really,
- 1:38:25Speaker 2: what you should be doing is saying this is bad behavior.
- 1:38:31Speaker 2: I don't want to be good at it. I want
- 1:38:33Speaker 2: you guys to stop right, and if you don't stop,
- 1:38:39Speaker 2: I'm not going to be part of it. That is
- 1:38:44Speaker 2: the ethical position to take. I'm not gonna be part
- 1:38:47Speaker 2: of this. I don't want to see I don't want
- 1:38:50Speaker 2: to be subject to it, and I don't want to
- 1:38:51Speaker 2: see other women subject to it. So I'm not gonna
- 1:38:53Speaker 2: take part in it. Bye. And if you want to
- 1:38:56Speaker 2: call me a trader for having done that, fine, you
- 1:38:59Speaker 2: go off and and pillage. I'll be here trying to
- 1:39:02Speaker 2: build something with all of the artists and the men
- 1:39:06Speaker 2: like and then you better not come back and say
- 1:39:09Speaker 2: you owe it like we owe you anything, because we don't.
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: All right, all right, Uh, okay, there's like thirty seconds
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: left in this one, twenty seconds.
- 1:39:22Speaker 3: If you're autistic, attractive, and quiet the trifecta, people will
- 1:39:27Speaker 3: often project motives onto you that aren't even real. Your
- 1:39:31Speaker 3: silence gets interpreted as arrogance, your awkwardness gets interpreted as manipulation,
- 1:39:38Speaker 3: your independence gets interpreted as superiority, and your social withdrawal
- 1:39:43Speaker 3: gets interpreted as judgment. I don't know about you, guys,
- 1:39:47Speaker 3: and I don't want to admit that I am conventionally
- 1:39:51Speaker 3: attractive because I don't think about attractiveness in that way.
- 1:39:55Speaker 3: But I'm at least aware enough to know that a
- 1:39:58Speaker 3: lot of people would look at at me and find
- 1:40:00Speaker 3: me conventionally attractive, and as a conventionally attractive autistic women,
- 1:40:06Speaker 3: I can guarantee you that I have been misinterpreted to
- 1:40:11Speaker 3: be all of those things.
- 1:40:18Speaker 2: Okay, this is this is a statement I would never make.
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: But Okay, I'm not going to like shoot her down
- 1:40:29Speaker 1: or or roast her or anything for for this, but
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: I will say that it sounds to me like you
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: are around a bunch of very vindictive, petty women that
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: are only interested in essentially like crabs in a bucket.
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: They're the crabs in the bucket. You know, they want
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: to they want to keep you in whatever way humble.
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: I guess level like they believe in equality in so
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: far as it means that no one is allowed to
- 1:40:59Speaker 1: stand now in any way. And if you are behaving
- 1:41:04Speaker 1: in the way that you say, like you're you know,
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: a bit quiet, you're a bit awkward and all that,
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: then yeah, they probably see that as something of a
- 1:41:15Speaker 1: threat because you it makes you unique in some way
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: and they don't want that. So yeah, I mean I
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: think that you might have and look, yeah, you might
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: have like haters, you might be friends with haters, and
- 1:41:33Speaker 1: not because you're you know, conventionally attractive. I think it's
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: just because they they're again, they're petty, and they're just
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: doing that. They're probably doing that to each other. In fact,
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: most likely they are. There's probably a gossip going on
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: between other women in the circle against other women. It's
- 1:41:50Speaker 1: like a sewing circle of you know, vindictive women constantly
- 1:41:56Speaker 1: making jabs at each other and doing it in a
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: past aggressive way, and maybe they're gossiping and all that,
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: and if it's probably inevitably going to collapse on itself.
- 1:42:07Speaker 1: So trying to figure out what this stream is about.
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: Duke nukeom we are looking at and reacting to a
- 1:42:16Speaker 1: video and doing an analysis of female behavior specifically the
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: relational web based on this video, because this is.
- 1:42:28Speaker 3: What we like to do.
- 1:42:30Speaker 1: Is that a fair description?
- 1:42:32Speaker 2: This is what we like to do while we are
- 1:42:34Speaker 2: analyzing female behavior essentially, yes, and so that people can
- 1:42:42Speaker 2: learn how to navigate it while not getting destroyed. And
- 1:42:49Speaker 2: unfortunately in this case, she just needs to walk away.
- 1:42:51Speaker 2: She can't keep trying to extort a cheap cheat code
- 1:42:55Speaker 2: or so that she can also be a rape and.
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead. I was just there was something
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: was happening with my pause space.
- 1:43:06Speaker 2: Okay, I just wanted to I just I just was
- 1:43:10Speaker 2: quiet because I was trying to figure out if you
- 1:43:11Speaker 2: were doing something. And she just she also wants to
- 1:43:14Speaker 2: be able to rape and pillage with the other warlords.
- 1:43:19Speaker 2: It's like, well, maybe you should reconsider that raping and
- 1:43:23Speaker 2: pillaging is good. Uh Aka, all of these behaviors, coalitional behaviors,
- 1:43:32Speaker 2: manipulative behaviors, ostracizing behaviors, social destructive behaviors that these women
- 1:43:39Speaker 2: are doing, maybe you shouldn't want to be able to
- 1:43:41Speaker 2: do them. Maybe you should not do them. Maybe you
- 1:43:46Speaker 2: should consider not belonging to a toxic sisterhood instead of
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: saying I want a cheat code because I'm autistic. So
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: that is not that is what we were talking about.
- 1:43:59Speaker 2: So let's continue all right, next time.
- 1:44:01Speaker 3: Code losing access to things because the social wave can
- 1:44:06Speaker 3: be turned against them and things like that. And honestly,
- 1:44:09Speaker 3: I think a lot of autistic women become deeply traumatized
- 1:44:13Speaker 3: by female group dynamics because we spend years accidentally violating
- 1:44:19Speaker 3: invisible rules we did not even know existed. You start
- 1:44:23Speaker 3: realizing that warmth isn't always safe, care isn't always unconditional.
- 1:44:29Speaker 3: Niceness doesn't always mean honesty, and belonging can disappear over Ye.
- 1:44:35Speaker 2: That's everybody, like literally, that's everybody in this in this
- 1:44:38Speaker 2: toxic nonsense, not just autistic women, Like perfectly.
- 1:44:43Speaker 1: Imagine what it's like to be an autistic man.
- 1:44:46Speaker 2: Yeah, perfectly. Normal women can experience that. The affiliate of
- 1:44:52Speaker 2: warmth with nothing beneath it is just an empty an
- 1:44:57Speaker 2: empty wrapper for expectations, right that. Plenty abnormal women have
- 1:45:04Speaker 2: experienced this thing too, Because it's like she's trying to
- 1:45:06Speaker 2: pretend that the toxicity is because she's autistic. No, the
- 1:45:11Speaker 2: toxicity targets you more because you're autistic. But the toxicity
- 1:45:15Speaker 2: exists regardless of whether you're autistic. And you may want
- 1:45:20Speaker 2: to say, oh, hey, give me a cheat code to
- 1:45:22Speaker 2: avoid the toxicity, but that is you're still going to
- 1:45:26Speaker 2: be working within a system that's toxic and harmful and
- 1:45:31Speaker 2: targets people you just don't want to be its target.
- 1:45:34Speaker 2: Well where does that put you?
- 1:45:35Speaker 3: Then?
- 1:45:35Speaker 2: It puts you at the trigger, It puts you on
- 1:45:38Speaker 2: the other side of the gun. And that's is that
- 1:45:40Speaker 2: what you want to buy into, is that where you
- 1:45:44Speaker 2: think that you should be, in which case, you know,
- 1:45:48Speaker 2: you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Lady,
- 1:45:52Speaker 2: you want to be part of this toxic community, then
- 1:45:55Speaker 2: you are fully available to be the target of its toxicity. Right.
- 1:46:01Speaker 2: You don't get to be in it and not have
- 1:46:03Speaker 2: to deal with the downsides. That's that's what's really annoying
- 1:46:06Speaker 2: about this behavior. I want all the benefits, but I
- 1:46:09Speaker 2: don't want to have to deal with the downsides. I
- 1:46:12Speaker 2: want all the benefits of raping and pillaging, but I
- 1:46:14Speaker 2: don't want to be uh, you know, raped and pillaged
- 1:46:17Speaker 2: in turn? Well, sorry, you set the rules. That means
- 1:46:20Speaker 2: you get to be victims of the rules that you set.
- 1:46:23Speaker 2: Don't hate the player, hate the game or sorry what?
- 1:46:26Speaker 2: Don't hate the game? Hate the player? I don't know
- 1:46:28Speaker 2: what it was. Well, if you're gonna play this game,
- 1:46:30Speaker 2: you gotta expect you gotta eat the downside of it.
- 1:46:34Speaker 2: It's in trying to get out of it by getting
- 1:46:36Speaker 2: a cheat code because your autistic is not It's well, okay,
- 1:46:40Speaker 2: you can do that, and maybe you'll get it. Maybe
- 1:46:43Speaker 2: you'll be able to play this toxic game completely and vulnerable.
- 1:46:48Speaker 2: But unfortunately you lose my sympathy.
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: Yeah right, no, all right.
- 1:47:00Speaker 3: Eventually you become hyper aware of how quickly groups can
- 1:47:03Speaker 3: collectively turn on someone once they've unconsciously been categorized as
- 1:47:08Speaker 3: the outsider. And so at this point in my life,
- 1:47:11Speaker 3: when I am meeting people and building relationships with them,
- 1:47:15Speaker 3: there's a few things that I have to look out for,
- 1:47:18Speaker 3: Especially because I'm a woman, I'm autistic, and I am
- 1:47:22Speaker 3: conventionally attractive. I have to be very weary of the
- 1:47:26Speaker 3: types of people I'm surrounding myself with, because if I
- 1:47:29Speaker 3: am not weary of that, I will end up fostering
- 1:47:32Speaker 3: relationship dynamics with people that are going to be very, very,
- 1:47:35Speaker 3: very draining.
- 1:47:38Speaker 1: Wary not weary. Weary means you're tired of it. Weary
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: means you're like aware, Sorry I spurged, but again, I'm
- 1:47:48Speaker 1: getting more of a little bit of a humble brag here.
- 1:47:51Speaker 1: I'm going to have to take care of me. Now. Look,
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: I'm not mad at her, I'm glad she's pointing this out,
- 1:47:57Speaker 1: but bit humble braggy there.
- 1:48:01Speaker 3: Because expectations of me and because I won't have space
- 1:48:07Speaker 3: to be myself without triggering other people. And so the
- 1:48:10Speaker 3: things that I look out for is how much of
- 1:48:13Speaker 3: myself can I be without it triggering other people? Right?
- 1:48:16Speaker 3: Can they just let me be myself without having to
- 1:48:19Speaker 3: feel insecure with themselves or without becoming defensive or needing
- 1:48:24Speaker 3: to bring me down or needing me to bring myself
- 1:48:27Speaker 3: down in order to make them feel better or okay.
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: Okay, okay again it's it's it's hard being this hot
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: and autistic. Did I did I tell you guys I'm autistic.
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: I'm autistic by the way I'm autistic. Would an autistic
- 1:48:43Speaker 1: person say that they're also very conventionally attractive?
- 1:48:49Speaker 2: I'm not.
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: I'm serious. I'm wondering. I don't know. Does that sound
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: like something they would say? No, just you don't think.
- 1:48:59Speaker 1: So maybe I don't know. I don't know. I'm asking.
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:49:04Speaker 2: I'm thinking she doesn't realize how it comes across. Maybe,
- 1:49:07Speaker 2: so maybe it would.
- 1:49:08Speaker 1: Be that's possible. Yeah, yeah, maybe she doesn't realize how
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: it comes across. Like she's not trying to sound like
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: she's saying, Oh, the burden of being this hot, it's unbearable.
- 1:49:19Speaker 1: I can't make friends, you know. But she's got that'sally
- 1:49:26Speaker 1: attractive flag in her bio. Is it a puzzle piece
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: like the Autism one. Okay, anyway, that's the second and
- 1:49:34Speaker 1: last time code. Any any thoughts on that before I
- 1:49:37Speaker 1: get to the last one?
- 1:49:39Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's pretty much what you have to do.
- 1:49:41Speaker 2: You just have to decide who you're gonna let in
- 1:49:44Speaker 2: your life and not worry about the sisterhood. The Sisterhood
- 1:49:48Speaker 2: is a is a status jockeying game, and if you
- 1:49:53Speaker 2: don't play it, well, I would suggest just to exit it.
- 1:49:57Speaker 2: It's not It's what people fundamentally don't realize is it's
- 1:50:02Speaker 2: not about being nice, it's not about compassion, it's not
- 1:50:08Speaker 2: about empathy. It's about winning. It's about being the top
- 1:50:13Speaker 2: she lob and gathering all of the resources to you
- 1:50:18Speaker 2: and being the one who determines who gets seen, whatever
- 1:50:21Speaker 2: the hell that means, and who gets ejected. It has
- 1:50:26Speaker 2: absolutely nothing to do with anything positive. It is not
- 1:50:30Speaker 2: the source of any kind of good in humanity. It
- 1:50:34Speaker 2: is simply a dominance game, right, And if you don't
- 1:50:39Speaker 2: want to play it, that actually speaks better to you.
- 1:50:43Speaker 2: If you don't want to be involved, you don't want
- 1:50:45Speaker 2: to do the status jockeying, you don't want to do
- 1:50:47Speaker 2: the resource acquisition thing that actually speaks better of you
- 1:50:51Speaker 2: if you want to maintain your ethics about gossiping, about
- 1:50:55Speaker 2: coalition building, about manipulation, about ostracization, about demanding consensus and
- 1:51:00Speaker 2: silencing people. If you want to say, you know what,
- 1:51:04Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a warlord, right, I'm not
- 1:51:08Speaker 2: going to do that. In fact, I am going to
- 1:51:12Speaker 2: prevent other warlords from war ladying around that. That is
- 1:51:17Speaker 2: something respectable and admirable. There is no obligation to pay
- 1:51:22Speaker 2: attention to, to invite into your life or to participate
- 1:51:26Speaker 2: in this dominance. What is a good way of blood
- 1:51:31Speaker 2: sport that women are engaging in this freaking social media
- 1:51:36Speaker 2: blood sport?
- 1:51:39Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:51:39Speaker 2: And if you say no, that makes you a better person.
- 1:51:43Speaker 2: Stick to your own stick to what you can help
- 1:51:47Speaker 2: the people you genuinely feel warm towards and want to
- 1:51:50Speaker 2: make sure they are protected and provided for. Right, cling
- 1:51:56Speaker 2: to your v one a ar acts cross activation, you know,
- 1:52:01Speaker 2: do that because again, the social media blood sport, you
- 1:52:07Speaker 2: can't expect anything good out of it. All you can
- 1:52:11Speaker 2: expect is contempt, anger, hatred, mutilation, social mutilation, destruction and misery.
- 1:52:23Speaker 2: So just don't take part. Don't take part. And she
- 1:52:26Speaker 2: loves grand ride of sisterhood. It's not worth it. Yep,
- 1:52:32Speaker 2: that's all I can sell.
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: Okay, So this is the last time Code desires.
- 1:52:41Speaker 3: We are in charge of ourselves, right. We collaborate on
- 1:52:45Speaker 3: an equal relationship and equal give and take, and we
- 1:52:49Speaker 3: coexist and we can even co regulate. But that's something
- 1:52:53Speaker 3: we are equally asking for and building together. And another
- 1:52:58Speaker 3: thing that I look for is just someone who's able
- 1:53:01Speaker 3: to be honest, even when honesty isn't easy, even if
- 1:53:05Speaker 3: it risks hurting my feelings. I need someone to be
- 1:53:09Speaker 3: willing to be confrontational and honest enough to tell me
- 1:53:13Speaker 3: when something is bothering them, telling me when they have
- 1:53:15Speaker 3: a certain need that's not.
- 1:53:16Speaker 2: Getting don't tell me this, don't seek this. And Sheila's
- 1:53:23Speaker 2: Grand Ride of Female blood Sports, like, why are you
- 1:53:28Speaker 2: seeking this? There? You're not going to get it because
- 1:53:33Speaker 2: it's like you're you're you're going to You're like you're
- 1:53:36Speaker 2: going to an MMA match. You're stepping in the ring
- 1:53:39Speaker 2: and you're like, why are you punching me? I wanted
- 1:53:42Speaker 2: to learn ballroom dancing. You're in the wrong place, lady.
- 1:53:48Speaker 2: Just get out of that place. Jesus, You're like in
- 1:53:51Speaker 2: the gladiator pit you're like in the like gin Bottle
- 1:53:56Speaker 2: called it, the female snake pit. You've walked into the
- 1:53:58Speaker 2: gladiator pit unarmed, knowing that you have a disability that
- 1:54:05Speaker 2: makes it more difficult for you to even compete to
- 1:54:08Speaker 2: do with the female gladiators. And you're like, I I
- 1:54:13Speaker 2: can't handle this, big give me, give me a give
- 1:54:16Speaker 2: me a handicap, Like, what are you doing? Don't get
- 1:54:19Speaker 2: in the pit, stay out of it. They get what's
- 1:54:26Speaker 2: really really weird is how women just are convinced that
- 1:54:29Speaker 2: they need to be in the pit. No, you don't
- 1:54:32Speaker 2: need to be in the pit. Don't don't follow your
- 1:54:36Speaker 2: mother need into the pit. That's how they get you.
- 1:54:39Speaker 2: That's how they get fresh blood for the Blood God
- 1:54:44Speaker 2: in the female snake pit. Just stay away from it.
- 1:54:51Speaker 2: Let the let the let the uh. Let the women
- 1:54:58Speaker 2: who are at the best at being utter atavistic savages
- 1:55:05Speaker 2: pursue whatever aims they have in the snake pit, and
- 1:55:09Speaker 2: you just stay out of it. Just maybe get some
- 1:55:14Speaker 2: popcorn and watch and just warn everybody else away from me,
- 1:55:18Speaker 2: just like you don't have to do this. You don't
- 1:55:23Speaker 2: have to take part in the savagery, in the destruction.
- 1:55:27Speaker 2: You don't have to take part in the evisceration, in
- 1:55:31Speaker 2: the in the desire for blood, that that characterizes the sisterhood.
- 1:55:37Speaker 2: And you know that the more that they talk about
- 1:55:39Speaker 2: how everything is just you know, fuzzy and peaches and
- 1:55:43Speaker 2: sweet and warm, the more they are hiding or they're
- 1:55:48Speaker 2: just pretending they are something they are not. That is
- 1:55:51Speaker 2: just a predator putting up a facade to suck you in.
- 1:55:57Speaker 2: Don't full fall for it. True, it's men who are
- 1:56:03Speaker 2: the romantics. It's women who are the savages. Just remember that,
- 1:56:09Speaker 2: all right.
- 1:56:10Speaker 3: All right, let's keep going when they're frustrated disappointed, telling
- 1:56:14Speaker 3: me what's going on, right and actually opening up a
- 1:56:19Speaker 3: conversation about it, because I cannot sit here and ruminate
- 1:56:24Speaker 3: on what's going on with the person, how to look
- 1:56:27Speaker 3: out for certain signals that might mean something, and how
- 1:56:30Speaker 3: to interpret that. Right, Oh, this person looks really happy
- 1:56:34Speaker 3: and smiley and loving. But are they actually or are
- 1:56:37Speaker 3: they actually secretly upset with me? And if they are
- 1:56:39Speaker 3: secretly upset with me, what did I do wrong? And
- 1:56:42Speaker 3: how do I make up for it? I cannot do that, dude, Like, really,
- 1:56:46Speaker 3: I cannot do that.
- 1:56:47Speaker 1: When I love someone, you shouldn't do that don't put
- 1:56:50Speaker 1: up with that. Don't do it all right, she says,
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: when I love someone so I guess she's somehow platonic.
- 1:56:56Speaker 3: And I care. I will do so much for them,
- 1:57:00Speaker 3: but I cannot do anything unless it is brought to
- 1:57:03Speaker 3: me first. It is so important to me that love
- 1:57:07Speaker 3: is shown between me and another person through having explicit
- 1:57:13Speaker 3: and vulnerable conversations with each other. Even if that means
- 1:57:16Speaker 3: someone is telling me I hurt their feelings, even if
- 1:57:18Speaker 3: that means they're telling me I failed them. I need
- 1:57:21Speaker 3: them to tell me that. I need them to explain
- 1:57:24Speaker 3: how it impacted them, explain what they expect from it,
- 1:57:27Speaker 3: so that we could happen doing.
- 1:57:28Speaker 2: The autistic thing. You're doing the autistic thing right here,
- 1:57:32Speaker 2: right now. You are mistaking the surface for the substance.
- 1:57:38Speaker 2: You are looking at the fluffy bunnies that the Sisterhood
- 1:57:43Speaker 2: strews around it's blood sports arena, and you're saying, oh,
- 1:57:47Speaker 2: that's what they want. No, they don't want that. That's
- 1:57:49Speaker 2: what it's using to suck you into their misery and
- 1:57:53Speaker 2: their destruction. Right you are mistaking again the pr for
- 1:58:00Speaker 2: the product. You are not going to get that from
- 1:58:04Speaker 2: the Sisterhood. You are not going to get love. You're
- 1:58:08Speaker 2: not gonna get honesty, You're not gonna get vulnerability. What
- 1:58:11Speaker 2: you are going to get is status jockeying to the
- 1:58:14Speaker 2: death right. That's it. Stop walking into the gladiator pit
- 1:58:19Speaker 2: and asking why you're being stabbed instead of hugged. Your
- 1:58:24Speaker 2: problem is you do not understand what you're dealing with.
- 1:58:29Speaker 2: And again it is the autistic thing. You are mistaking
- 1:58:32Speaker 2: the surface surface for the substance. Do you see what
- 1:58:35Speaker 2: I'm saying, Brian, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see.
- 1:58:43Speaker 1: So that's an autistic thing to like see the surface.
- 1:58:46Speaker 2: And what people say they are for what they actually are.
- 1:58:50Speaker 2: Don't look at these women in terms of what they
- 1:58:52Speaker 2: say they are, look at in terms of what they do.
- 1:58:56Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, she seems to be confused by what they're doing,
- 1:59:01Speaker 1: which is why she's like, oh, I don't understand you
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: should be doing things this way. I think this would
- 1:59:06Speaker 1: be better not realizing that no, this isn't a bug,
- 1:59:09Speaker 1: this is a feature.
- 1:59:11Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm, Okay, that I could better understand and so
- 1:59:15Speaker 3: that we could collaborate on what to do about it. Right,
- 1:59:18Speaker 3: If they don't open up the doorway into understanding what's
- 1:59:23Speaker 3: going on within them, then I will never know that
- 1:59:26Speaker 3: there's something happening beneath the surface within them. I will
- 1:59:29Speaker 3: never be given the opportunity to do something about it,
- 1:59:32Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying?
- 1:59:33Speaker 1: And all right, that was the last time. So that's
- 1:59:37Speaker 1: basically the importance of explicit and vulnerable conversations and relationships
- 1:59:41Speaker 1: to avoid emotional confusion and allow for understanding and support. Again,
- 1:59:47Speaker 1: this is assuming that was that. That's the goal. So
- 1:59:52Speaker 1: that's the last time code. Al okay, so that's the video.
- 2:00:03Speaker 1: What are you doing?
- 2:00:07Speaker 2: I reversed the mutes? Sorry, Well, one, she wants a
- 2:00:13Speaker 2: cheat code to be a bastard or be a cut right.
- 2:00:18Speaker 2: She wants to be able to run with the big
- 2:00:21Speaker 2: girls that she loves and be able to fight or
- 2:00:24Speaker 2: something or alternatively, she's completely misunderstanding the situation because she's
- 2:00:30Speaker 2: an artist. She thinks that this is a source of
- 2:00:34Speaker 2: companionship and warmth and love and mutual understanding. And what
- 2:00:39Speaker 2: she's wandered into is the female gladiator pit. And then
- 2:00:44Speaker 2: the real problem here is well, I mean it's a
- 2:00:48Speaker 2: problem that the female gladiator pit exists. You know that
- 2:00:53Speaker 2: social media blood sports exists for women. That is a
- 2:00:56Speaker 2: problem in and of itself. But her problem is that
- 2:00:59Speaker 2: she's miss taking it for something it isn't. It is
- 2:01:02Speaker 2: not a hug box. It is a blood sport. It
- 2:01:08Speaker 2: presents itself like it's a hug box for some reason.
- 2:01:13Speaker 2: I don't know why women have to do this. They
- 2:01:14Speaker 2: have to pretend that there's something they're not, probably because
- 2:01:17Speaker 2: that's what predators do. But it is a blood sports,
- 2:01:21Speaker 2: and if you want to walk into the arena, be
- 2:01:22Speaker 2: prepared to be shived, and even normal women who are
- 2:01:29Speaker 2: not autistic will be shived. You'll get your turn at
- 2:01:34Speaker 2: the top, and then you will be destroyed by the
- 2:01:38Speaker 2: people below you clawing their way up, the women below
- 2:01:40Speaker 2: you clawing their way up. It is an ever ending
- 2:01:43Speaker 2: cycle of blood and distraction. And if you want to
- 2:01:47Speaker 2: take part, you better be on the top of your
- 2:01:50Speaker 2: female relational web game, because if you're not, you are
- 2:01:54Speaker 2: going to be the thing that's stepped on. And if
- 2:01:59Speaker 2: you want to have warmth and general genuine care and
- 2:02:05Speaker 2: truth and vulnerability, then that your friends, and keep it
- 2:02:12Speaker 2: to the people that are closest to you. God speed.
- 2:02:17Speaker 2: Don't expect she loved to be anything but what she is.
- 2:02:23Speaker 2: That's it.
- 2:02:24Speaker 1: Yep, all right.
- 2:02:26Speaker 2: I wanted to say thank you to the great indoors.
- 2:02:29Speaker 2: You actually put something through, So I think it works
- 2:02:32Speaker 2: to feed the Badger dot Com slash support. Please do
- 2:02:36Speaker 2: help us out because we are here because you continue
- 2:02:41Speaker 2: to support us basically and feed the Badger dot com
- 2:02:48Speaker 2: slash just the tip if you want to send us
- 2:02:49Speaker 2: a message even after the show is over, because we
- 2:02:53Speaker 2: will read it at the next show. That's similar, Like
- 2:02:58Speaker 2: it makes sense to read it at if that makes.
- 2:03:00Speaker 1: Sense, Yeah, maybe on Friday or next month.
- 2:03:04Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And we are at God, this is really
- 2:03:12Speaker 2: awfully difficult to navigate, so I can see why people
- 2:03:16Speaker 2: are having trouble with it. So we are at three thousand,
- 2:03:24Speaker 2: six hundred and seventy three left to go for this month,
- 2:03:30Speaker 2: so three thousand and six hundred and seventy three. It
- 2:03:35Speaker 2: was a little bit of a rhythmic tick there. That's
- 2:03:36Speaker 2: why it took a while. And if you would like
- 2:03:39Speaker 2: to help out, it is at feed the Badger dot
- 2:03:42Speaker 2: Com slash support. Although the old version of this is
- 2:03:46Speaker 2: at Feedbadger dot Com Slash Project Slash Badger Dash Media
- 2:03:49Speaker 2: Blitz and that works as well. I will just have
- 2:03:56Speaker 2: to do a lot of work to apply it to
- 2:03:57Speaker 2: the fundraiser, which can be it's a bit of a pain,
- 2:04:01Speaker 2: but anyway, those are the options. Please help us out
- 2:04:04Speaker 2: Bagination dot online if you want to read more of
- 2:04:07Speaker 2: my analysis of the things that we talk about, and
- 2:04:10Speaker 2: I'll head it back to Brian since we are well
- 2:04:13Speaker 2: over the hour.
- 2:04:14Speaker 1: Yeah, so, if you guys liked this video, please hit
- 2:04:17Speaker 1: like subscribe. If you're not already subscribed, hit the bellflotifications,
- 2:04:21Speaker 1: leave us a comment, let me know what you guys
- 2:04:22Speaker 1: think about what we talked about in the show today,
- 2:04:24Speaker 1: and share the video because sharing is caring. Thanks so
- 2:04:27Speaker 1: much for coming on this episode of Maintaining Frame and
- 2:04:29Speaker 1: we'll talk to you guys in the next one. See
- 2:04:31Speaker 1: you wet seven for Hannah's thing basically in like four hours.
- 2:04:36Speaker 1: Talk to you guys next time.
- 2:04:38Speaker 2: Woo.