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Summer House Reunion Pt 1 &In The City Ep 2 · Wicked Messy

• Hali and Alicia: Hello everyone. Hello. We're back. We're back and better than ever. What a doozy today is gonna be. ⁓ this freaking reunion and then episode two of frickin' ⁓ in the city. Which was wild. I literally this might be a two part episode. Yeah. Because or a 40 part episode. Yeah. Watch this be our shortages. Have to see. One out of two. Yeah. Whatever. Okay, so first of all, yeah, let's let's show the people what's going on in real life right now. Right. I So Loverboy. Okay, I got something. We always gotta drink a little something on the show. Yep. So can we see it? Yeah. Put it in the middle there. This is Lover Boy. It's black cherry vanilla. ⁓ Okay, so ⁓ I'm gonna give one to you. ⁓ wow, it's zero sugar. Yeah, not a good sign. Not a good sign at all. I wonder what the ingredients are. ⁓ I mean, we got an organic tea in there. That's that's good. So we did try some lover boy like three summers ago. Yup. At our aunt's pool, and it tasted like cat piss. Shit. And I I was saying to Tim before I came here, I was like, you know, it's crazy because Kyle, even as much as a jerk he can be, has always been like. He had the world in front of him with Lover Boy. Everyone wanted to support. Yup. It's just it's not selling, not because of you. It's not selling because the formula needs to change. Yeah, it's it's really not good. So it like really And I'm I'm hoping that this changes my mind. We had the lemonade ones last time, and I'm not a lemonade gal. And alcohol drink. So for me to not like lemonade drink is a bad sign. But yeah, let's see. Let's see. Cheers. All right, Kyle. Okay. I mean not as bad as the last one. No. But very subtle and almost tastes like I'm drinking flavored water. That's kind of what I'm getting. Like flavored water. I don't taste the vanilla very much. Maybe a little hint at the end. Definitely the black cherry. Definitely at the end. Yeah. All right. Or like a watered down like white claw. I'd give it a six out of ten. ⁓ I'd give it like a one. I yeah. Alright. Okay. Yeah. Anyways. Alright. So A lot to talk about. Yeah. Before we jump into the reunion madness, just a quick note from our last time. Yeah. So watch what happens live. This was, I believe, after the finale episode of Summer House. Right. It was Kyle and Amanda. Okay. ⁓ Lindsay. Yikes. Yikes aroma. I was like, if they put those two on there, I'd be freaking insane. That would have been I would have paid money to see that. Right. ⁓ Kyle and Lindsay. Okay. ⁓ first of all, Lindsay looked stunning. She had like long hair, like mermaid vibes. I missed this episode. Yeah. So a Ramona blue dress. Okay. Like she looked amazing. she's great at fashion. Except for one scene in the city on this episode. You know what though? She looked different. You know how last time we were saying, like, ⁓ her face looks a little different? Yeah, like stuck. She looked amazing. Do you watch The Valley? Yep. So you know how Britney for season two, her jaw looked weird and she ended up telling us it was some weird like surgery she got to like get rid of like this or something. I believe she couldn't open her mouth all the way. ⁓ my god. I think that's what Lindsay had done. Because Brittany said it could take like six to a year to heal. And she got it done four months before. Doesn't matter. Yeah. Lindsay looked great. although something that you miss because you didn't watch it that was funny. Andy goes Kyle, what do you have to say about telling Ben that your relationship with Amanda is like dating a cactus? And Kyle goes, I said that. He did. He was like prickly, right? Yeah, yes. ⁓ okay, so whatever. The reason I bring this up is because last time we were confused about why Gemma was on social media. Like, how did baby daddy allow this when clearly she was like, Nope, can't do it. So I don't know if this is the truth or her best PR answer, but it was a good answer. She said Because like I have to pick my battles with stuff like this. I'm on In the City, which is basically her show about her being a mom. Right. Her life. Yeah. So she was like, How am I supposed to film in the city without showing Gemma? And that's what they agreed on. So who cares? Social media is faker than reality TV by a mile, in my opinion. Absolutely. And I'm sure there's like videos and pictures out there of like a A Gemma that's not really Gemma that people have just like fabricated or AI has created. So yes, it is what it is. How do you know what's what in this day and age? You know, don't no, you don't. You know what she said though before we move on. I forgot about this part. What? she revealed in Kyle's face, I was like, ⁓ my god, Kyle's gonna kill her. That he first of all, Amanda was making more money than him at one point, and that ⁓ yeah, he's made more Bailey. He has made more. money DJing in the last year than he has with Loverboy in the last five or something. Yeah, I doubt he's made any profit himself. Like he said what in the first episode of In the City that he put five hundred thousand dollars of his own money into Loverboy most recently. Yeah. Well he's probably doing better now. I mean we just bought a pack! a ⁓ He's doing amazing. We just bought a pack! Yeah exactly and everyone's buying the shirts and we also bought those so stay tuned because we'll be wearing YAAAAASSS!! ⁓ ⁓ BUT YEAH! All right, let's get into this. So let's get into this. So the actual episode of the Summer House reunion starts with In the City. It's Lindsay and her confessional. Yep, in the green room. Yep, in her green room. So as we know, Kyle walks in pretending that he hasn't read this statement yet. So that's exactly what I literally have in my notes! So confused. He saw Amanda the night before, but he's confused about this statement. Like What's happening? Like Kyle, leave this self-producing to Linds like you aren't doing great at it. And he's read it to me. Yeah. So so Lindsay's reading it. She actually seems like she is surprised. ⁓ Wicked. Like, I actually believe that she's finding that out in real time. And I'm like, ⁓ my God. It's like it it's not a haunted house. It's just Lindsay Hubbard reading your ex's public situationship statement on national TV. And she's like, fuck. Fuck. I'm like, ⁓ my God, I want to disappear. ⁓ now the the thing is all the cast was calling in which felt you know staged. Yeah. Okay. I don't care what anybody says. I well, yeah, I think clearly the whole thing was staged. Like, did Kyle meet with Amanda the night before? And then she was like, I'm gonna post this statement, and then they were like, Okay, let's get everyone involved, like the producers, like let's make sure everyone's on standby for when Lindsay's in her commentary, because then we're gonna drop the bomb because Lindsay is probably gonna have the biggest reaction. That's what I think. I think that she gave him the heads up, but he hadn't actually read what it he did read it. The whole thing was fake, but not like fake. Like it didn't really happen. Fake like the how people found out. Yeah, it was set up a hundred percent. Although on that like multi person call, I did hear Carl like he was distressed. Like he was he was like this is disgusting. Like he was actually a mess. I bet that's where he is that came out at all points. And I'm like, Carl, can you just like sit down and relax? Like Child dude, you're forty one, you're gonna have a heart attack. Dude, he's literally gonna have a heart attack. He's ⁓ you know, healthy as hell too. Now that he's a runner, he doesn't drink, anything. ⁓ although Kyle did say at the very end of that, he made sure to throw this in. He was like, I don't know. I mean, there have been blinds about this since June of twenty twenty five, which is when they were filming. Yes, I know. Literally nuts. And ⁓ one thing I wanted to say at the beginning of this, which I didn't but I would say, I think this is just kind of fun to do. The word of the episode for this reunion part one is fraudulent. Like I just feel like that is like absolutely perfect because literally everything that came from a specific person or two people was completely fraudulent. But yeah. So we go past this green room, then we get into the dressing room. Yes, which is just. Wild. I was not expecting. Cause who did they show first? They showed was it Kyle and West? I mean, I mean Amanda and West. Yeah, I think it was, or it was Carl walking into the dressing room seeing Amanda and West on the sign. Yes. Okay. Listen, this 20 minutes of the backstage. Yeah. I'm not kidding. I know you don't always watch like reunions of like the housewives. Well, so I've changed. Now that I know what reunions like what's in store with a reunion and like how explosive it can be, I've never not watched one anymore. Okay. They're not always that great for housew it depends. Like OC Bev Hills, it's like the same old stuff, but like Salt Lake City, like those are great reunions. Do you know who has the craziest reunions is Married to Medicine. They're insane. I I she hasn't gotten into the show yet. And I know No, I was and I fell off. Okay, okay. But she didn't finish it. Yeah, I guarantee that's really good. Point being this reunion, this backstage 20 minutes, I found more compelling than half the ⁓ actual reunions from the housewives. I literally I was like, This is crazy. I know, and Andy like always has like the best comments and statements and questions. Like When he said, So let's go into Amanda and West in the dressing room, which was so bizarre because I even wrote down he West goes, I feel Zen. I and Amanda's trying to play it off, I felt she was playing that she's like, I don't know if I can't breathe because I'm anxious or my corset's too tight. But like, honey, I I don't really think that you were that anxious, I think. I don't know. so here's the thing. And I'm actually gonna ⁓ throw in your expertise here, a little fun question. So, first of all, he said he's en she says she's anxious. Of course, she's anxious, whether it's for the right reasons, whether or not she's anxious about confronting her old friend, whether it's about anxious about looking like an asshole on national TV. Of course, no one's above being nervous in a situation like this. Right. However, she was visibly calm. So one of two things going on here, right? She popped a Xanax before. Which wouldn't blame her. I think Tamara Judge actually admitted during the reunion one year, like, yeah, this is how what what do you expect me to do? Or what do you think about this? Hold on, let's pause for a second. Lucy, that can't happen because the camera is on the chair and you're gonna shake the fucking camera. Lucy, we're gonna lock you in. What am I gonna do with you? You're gonna make my editing take so much longer because you're such a little twat. ⁓ Lucy. I don't know what to do with you. Okay, hit your vape. Alright. Lucy, seriously. ⁓ she's gonna go koo poo and run all around. Hey, what if we do this? the kind of shit I have to do with Desmond. ⁓ look at this. She's a fucking child. She's gonna hop right back over that chair, but whatever. what was I saying? Hold on, I don't I don't know what were we talking about? ⁓ I know what I was talking about. Tamra. ⁓ the cat. That's gonna be shaky. See how it's shaking? Put her in the rum, Hayley. She's gonna go I know we don't well, I don't know what else our options are. Yeah, can't you? Yeah, so Tamra pops says annex. I I'm pretty sure it was Tamra Judge that admitted that. Whatever. So my question for you, not that you can tell if she took anything, because that that's just me like poking fun. I'm sure she didn't. I wouldn't blame her if she did. Yeah. It's worst day of her life, probably. But it kind of felt to me, and I want to know your opinion as a psychiatric nurse practitioner. Yeah. Seemed like she was truly above anything else. literally disassociating. Yeah. Definitely. Especially when the camera would like cut to like looking at her or she would like start closing her eyes. I did feel like she was on something. No, I'm saying there's a possibility that she was maybe on nothing and she was truly no, I think she was definitely on on something because allegedly. I think allegedly right. But she definitely has talked about her mental health, right? And how like it's been a lot for her. And I feel like her anxiety would be so much more severe that I don't even think she would be able to sit on that stage to honestly. There's no way she went on there without anything. So we do so But I do think at the same time, at that level of anxiety and public scrutiny. No matter what you take, it's not gonna cover you. So I do think like when she was closing her eyes or when it looked like a deer in headlights, she was a hundred percent like d disassociating. ⁓ yeah. I did I I felt bad in this like I did feel bad for her in the sense that it's like you're about to face the music. And then when I saw how she actually acted, I was like, ⁓ you're avoiding the music. Yeah. Oh yeah, ⁓ Oh yeah Yeah. ⁓ she She looked beautiful, but I did clock that she had no eye makeup on, which I was like, ⁓ is that strategic? Because you think you're gonna cry, or you wanna be like this innocent, like that's a good thought. Yeah. It was my first thought. so in finally in this dressing room, ⁓ first of all, Carl's like, I've been doing this for 10 years. ⁓ Oh myyy godddd! and I've never seen anything like this. So my notes about Carl is drama and just like shut up. That's literally what I wrote in there. Like you're not even involved, but you're a mess. I no, I feel I feel for him. I feel like he's really feeling these things. I don't think it's an act. I don't know. ⁓ Well, that I guess, yeah, I I do agree. but I think it's just like, can you put your big point pants on? 'Cause like you you're acting like a woman here. Well Andy ends up not to skip ahead but makes a great point. He was like, I don't even see you this distress when you called off your engagement. So that's something I wrote down and I didn't even realize he so Carl didn't actually release a public statement when him and Lindsay ended things in split. That's what they said. Yeah, I think he said like this just a bad PR move. Yeah. And I don't disagree. It's I wouldn't say it's bad. You cannot win something like that. Whether you post it, whether you post it or don't post it. Yeah. It d you can't win. No, you really can't. ⁓ my god. Say that again. Whether you whether you post it or you don't post it, like you're gonna be in the red, you're gonna be in the wrong. Like it's just you cannot win. But also, I feel like that's kind of a bitch move because he's the one that called it off. And you kind of blindsided Lindsay, I would say, right before your wedding. I mean. But what kind of public statement? And then you're not gonna make a public statement? Just tell your truth. I don't get it. Like, why can't these people just speak their truth? Like, you know it's on camera. Then when you add this like padding and fluff, people then start digging and they're like, You're an asshole. So I feel like they always say like PR move, but it's like, okay, but some of these PR moves that you do when you add this fluff, you then look like more of a fucking asshole in the end. Honestly. I I don't disagree. I just think like what what The Lindsay and I don't have feelings. I'm I can't do it. It's n it wasn't right. It was it was a mistake and and we made the But they filmed, we we gotta get back on track, but they filmed their breakup. Like he let it all out. He probably thought, I don't know, I'm not famous. Yeah, but remember what I don't know if watching that's way after they filmed. So it's like, I I don't know. But yeah. All right. All right, let's get back on track. So ⁓ I have this like in screen as if we're promoting this. Jesus. We kind of are. I know. ⁓ sponsor. Yeah, seriously, Kyle. Kyle. It's delicious. We didn't read it. We didn't read it two out of ten. I know, I take it back. Check that out. okay, so what I did though, my last thought on the backstage before we really dig into it is when Ciara and Kyle come together. I know and she says, I actually got chills. She says "I'm so sorry I misunderstood you this summer." And this is something I was saying. Remember, I was so like, Amanda's an asshole. Like, this is before we started the pod, and we would have conversations about it. And I'd be like, this where they're going too far, like they're getting too involved, and they don't see both sides of it. And I think Amanda has been painted as she's trying so hard and it's so bad for Amanda. No, get out of here. Like, I'm sorry, but no. No, but the thing is too, it's like, Ciara, of course, you're only gonna hear one side. That is your good friend. Right. I don't care what he does. You're only gonna care about your friend's side. Exactly. But now she's she's seeing the light. Yeah. She's seeing the light. Wait, but backstage, the statement that gave me the chills was when ⁓ Andy went into Amanda and West's ⁓ dressing room and said, What did he say? You two look so calm. And like Amanda I feel like they didn't clock that in the moment. I I kind of feel like Amanda did. She was kind of like Did she? She kind of looked like she was looking at Andy like, you know what you're doing right now. ⁓ okay. Maybe I didn't I didn't pick up on that. West definitely didn't clock it. He just sitting there like, Thanks, Andy. Well, you actually, you know what? You're right, because after Andy walked out, Amanda goes, Is or was it West or Amanda that said, Is that normal? Like is that a good thing or is that a bad thing? Pretty sure that was West. Yeah, yeah. And like you already made the statement that you feel so zen, so you're a psychopath. When Andy comes to talk to you with the camera backstage, yeah. And no, it's not good. Yeah. Hundred percent. Hundred percent. ⁓ god. So let's talk about the reunion. Yes. So Ciara looked stunning, gorgeous. Right. Obviously, I know. I loved what she was wearing. I'm sorry, but Amanda's dress. What is that? I'm telling you, there was no cleavage. It was mellow yellow or butter yellow, as Lindsay said. What a backhand of compliment. I know. But the it looked like it was pinned up and it was just thrown together. It was just like like lace or not lace, ⁓ that weird like this fabric. Yeah, I I don't know, fashion. Pinsel. Maybe it is good. I don't know. But I I think that with the no makeup, with the very like angelic dress, like I feel like that was a move. I highly doubt she didn't have any makeup on. I think she had makeup on to make it look natural and soft. Yeah, but she definitely didn't have eye makeup on. No, not like mascara or I mean she had mascara on. It's huge for a reunion. These people get fully glammed up. I'm telling you, she was trying to look like as it it's like when people go to court and they wanna look their absolute best. It's like but you don't usually dress like that, but you're trying to you're trying to convince the judge. She's trying to convince us she's not. But does Amanda ever really wear makeup though? Not really. She's not a makeup girly kind of. I've never seen her without at least mascara on. See, I think she had mascara on. Very light. Well, but I disagree. Yeah. Maybe she'll let us know. Right. So okay, before the reunion even starts, I died when West walks on stage and whispers to Amanda Noemi's mic'ed up. ⁓ my god, like I just found out a second. ⁓ my god, my nudes got leaked and they're going all over Missouri or something like that. Yeah. Did you see those nudes? No. I never got a peek, but I would never look because I don't want to see his shit. Well, don't go on Twitter because they're just loud and proud all over Twitter. ⁓ but I was was it soft in the picture? I it wasn't ⁓ yeah it it West said it best in his interview when he addressed this at some point a few weeks ago. He was like it's ⁓ on like a podcast or something. Yeah he's like they look medical. It's like, I don't know. I can't it do it doesn't matter. All I know is that they're not allowed to have their phones. Like they have to tuck them in and stuff. Imagine they stick ⁓ in the back of the couch, right? Imagine finding this out and for at least minimum six hours not being able to check how your life is blowing up because you're new to going everywhere. My question is, you've been lying about this whole Amanda thing and hiding this. Why do you then go on a reunion stage and not lie about dick pics? Like if you're gonna lie about anything, I would have I would have denied that. Well, it just happened. So it wasn't even like a discussion. Yeah. So why say I don't know. I don't know. But I feel like he's a natural born liar. So I feel like that should have like rolled off his tongue and he was just like, Yep, that's me. I was like, What the huh? Yeah. ⁓ and he was like, I don't even think those are all me. And Amanda was like, pretty much like, ⁓ I see in these ones. I know. She's just in the dark. She doesn't know what the fuck's going on. God. I think Andy wasn't he like Andy overheard this. He's ⁓ you got nudes leaked? And Les was like, Yeah. And Andy Andy goes, Well, when it rains, it pours. And then I think before they got into anything too, ⁓ Andy, when Lindsay walked in with her beautiful red dress, he was like, ⁓ going for red. And what did she say? Yes. But then she said, I'm the devil you don't want to know. ⁓ Yes, and it was a revenge dress on behalf of Kyle. And then they cut to that fucking picture that someone created. Yes. ⁓ that's whose dress that is? Yeah, that's hilarious. Literally so funny. Yes. So I'm actually wearing an Ariana t shirt right now from there. So really quick detour. So on the Vanderpump. Rules reunion scandal. Yeah. She says to Tom, I know who you cheated on Raquel with. It was me. And she was like, We had sex like three months ago. And Tom Sandoval goes, Yeah, you were like in your t-shirt. It was so hot, like making fun of her. And so she opens a sandwich shop with Katie. They had a merch and she made she made these shirts that say, F me in this t-shirt. ⁓ wow, she's so smart. She's very smart. Brilliant. Yeah. She can't really really. Yeah, no kidding. But ⁓ but honestly, I think feel like you could get away with it. Like, unless someone sits there and s and reads it, you're fine. Yeah, no. But ⁓ but not with your child. No. Anyway, probably not a good look. Hey. All right. So back to business. Yep. So they get on stage. ⁓ what let's ew Wait, going back to backstage when West kisses Amanda, like why are you doing that? Like that is disgusting. Like no one wants to see that. That's upset. The balls, and he truly was Zen. Well, the thing is, there's they had every single thing was poorly curated, but it was curated. They had a conversation. I bet my left leg on it that they were like, Should we kiss on camera? Yeah. What's our timeline? Let's met and it's the thing is no one like but I don't know. I don't They're that strategic though. I feel like they I think Amanda is. Amanda, maybe, but like I feel like that might even be like muscle memory of like, hey, I'm here, let me kiss you. Well, if that's the case, which then digs the grave further of everything they're saying during this reunion. You know? They've been through scandals like this before. They know better than to leave it to the last episode because people won't care. They talk about the scandal a little bit, then they save the rest for part three. Yep. Yep. And let me tell you, it was just a lot. And they need they needed to get through the timeline to start with. But what I truly think is who actually cares about what the timeline is? The point being, no one cares if Kyle got cheated on. That's not the thing. Do we care if there was overlap with Ciara? Sure, but it unless it was during filming of Summer House, this means so little. This timeline means nothing to me. All I care about is the fact that they did this to their friends. But I think the timeline comes into play because Jesse wants to defend himself that he was not aware of this. So he brought the timeline in it. in a couple of like Watch What Happens Live or like whatever he's commented on. And then also I think Ciara wants to prove how evil and dirty Amanda played this out, essentially. Well I know why they would do it, but I'm saying that like of course they have to. That's what people care about. What I'm saying is white. Is that really what we care about? No, we want to know. I mean, I kind of do. I love timelines. Like I want to know exactly what she texted you and denied this, and then exactly when on this stage she's now claiming that this started or happened. The timeline matters, but this timeline is curated by them. So it's a fake timeline. We're never gonna how much. ⁓ yeah, what they say, but what the other people say and the receipts, like that's what I care about. I know. Let's take a look at this timeline. All Yeah. Summer 2025, they're filming. Kyle and Amanda hate each other. Right. West is pretending to rekindle with Ciara. It's which is like July 2025. And this is when the blind item first comes out. Yeah. 2025. Okay. Now we skip to in the city, okay? Kyle and Amanda, how they're falling out. Now we're in the city. You know, they're I thought that what's the blind item? What are you talking about? The blind item was that Kyle. Excuse me. Amanda and West have been hooking up since June of twenty five. Gotcha. Gotcha or something. So not the one of it them f people saying they have a picture of them holding hands. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. So now we're in filming September through November of the City. Amanda and Kyle are visibly like separating. We then have January. Yeah, which that timeline doesn't make sense either to me. How? ⁓ I guess because they announced the split what January twenty twenty sixth? Yeah, we haven't gotten it so they were still on. Okay, okay. So you're January nineteenth. Yeah. Kyle and Amanda split. Yep. They announced their split. Right. They post the story. So the statement. So that's so then in Janu through so throughout when they they announced their separation all the way to February, there's like crazy rumors. Yeah. That's when people start bringing up the video. They're seen holding hands. Yes. Right. Under the table. Right. At the same time though, and Ciara brought this up during the reunion, January 2026 was when Ciara was texting Amanda saying, Come out for drinks with me and Mia. Yes. And Amanda's location was at West's apartment. Yes. Which is wild. Yes. Like she's she's getting caught. Amanda's getting caught in lies. Yeah. Like visibly. Right. Now end of February is when Amanda's claiming. So this is the brunch. That the whole first one too. Yes. I mean Which was March first. ⁓ okay. Yeah. Okay, yeah. So, ⁓ and so and West is saying he made the first move. I'm like, ⁓ you really took a bullet with that one. They didn't want to answer that question. I don't blame them. Yeah. Now we're in March. This is their like secret relationship era. Allegedly it started March first, the physical contact. This is the time I don't fucking believe because why was she at his apartment in January if you know you never kissed in January? And you're going going out together and you're at his house? No, n this is their alleged timeline. Yeah. Live. So it's yeah, it's and well everyone agrees what like while they're on stage, like this what I think Carl says, why are you still like lying? I know. Like, give us a brain. Tell the truth. And he made a good point. I don't know if it was this or in an interview, but it's he's pretty much like, You're making this show look fake. Yeah. And the reason that this show does so well, the same reason that VPR and ⁓ Southern hospitality, even Southern charm. The reason that these do good compared to other shows, because these people are actually friends. There's a real feeling. There's connections, yep. If the audience thinks that this is fabricated, I'm gonna be way less clocked into any episode I ever watched. ⁓ yeah. If I think they're all lying about their actual lives. And we'll get to lying about actual lives in a bit. Right. ⁓ so March 31st is when the statement drops of But wait. So March 1st, they're at brunch and they have their first kiss. Then Ciara texts Amanda on March 5th stating, What's going on with you in West? Is there any like smoke to these rumors? And it's really hard to believe you. Yeah. And then two days later, Amanda texts Ciara again, still lying, stating, no, this is not true. And I feel like we left off at a bad spot on the fifth when I was denying this. And then he goes on watch what happens live on the 24th of March. Yeah. And he slept over with Meija, the the girlfriend. The the horse hair tie. And is wearing the horse tail tie. And he slept over with her that night. And how crazy was it that they were like, Amanda, did you know about this girlfriend? And she's like, Yeah. And I'm like, She was looking like, yeah. And I'm still here. Like Amanda knew exactly what to say. Like when Mia was like, How did you go from being a wife to a side bitch? Yep. It's like, well, in Amanda's brain, she was never, ever the side bitch. She looked and she said, Ciara's out. Meija is out. Whatever other girls that you're screwing, I I did it. I'm the last woman standing. Yeah. I don't think she's And you're saying in a way of like reflecting on that to that day when they were taping the reunion, not like I think in the moment when she said you're dating this Meija girl. Yeah. She said what most girls would say in a situation like this, that they're not gonna walk away, it's me or her. Yeah. And I think that. He was never that into that girl anyways. So it's like she's popping up on social media now. I just saw yesterday, Meija She's like, did you see the comment she made about like people would have a heart attack if I was at that reunion or something of that nature? ⁓ yeah. She's got a lot to say, so that's gonna come out soon. I'm I'm I'm gonna bet my life on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it I hope Andy does like a one on one with our other people. I need to find I need to find her Instagram. I need to And she's not verified or anything. She's just like a plain old girl. ⁓ my god. Yeah, wild. That's I can't believe I didn't know that. So yeah, with those texts though, Amanda's like the internet is effing on one. Like I know. I everything I do is under a microscope. How scary is that that people can do that to their best friend who literally was just with them all season crying with them and taking care of them and like trying to lift them up and be like you should separate. How crazy and twisted is that to think about now that Ciara was like, You and Kyle should separate, meanwhile, like This a hundred percent was starting up like flirtatious in during summer house taping. Emotional affair. You cannot convince me otherwise. Yeah. And I I do strongly feel it was physical at that point, but they can say whatever they want. Who's they, me? West and Amanda. So, so then Ciara answers like being like for clarity. So you've never had sex, held hands, kissed, anything. Yep. And Amanda goes, correct. I know. And then Amanda goes, Yeah, yeah, I lied. It's like She was being such an asshole though with such an attitude and like giving so much shit and swearing at Ciara. Like, girl, who do you think you are? You're she wants to be a villain at this point, I feel. I think that she feels like a dog in a like trapped in a corner. This is why I think she was on something during the reunion because how do you have the balls to sit there? Allegedly. You gotta say allegedly. Well, allegedly my ass. I think she was. ⁓ no. ⁓ I see it did seem like That. ⁓ and The thing is too, with these rumors and how she's like, you know, this this something with the veracity that this rumor has. Yeah. I just want to point out that these people have been doing this shit for a decade. Do you know how many rumors come out and they shake it off? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For this to grow legs with the cast, that means that these people that have dealt with this shit. for 10 years said, you know what? Something feels different. I don't know what it is, but something feels off. And that's what Ciara said in March to Amanda was like, there's no way this many rumors and this many people saying the same thing is not real. Yeah. So it's it's crazy. That's how you know they're lying about this complete timeline. It's such a fucking lie. You know what though caught my attention and I could have my timeline all messed up. But when Ciara's talking about like this text back and forth with Amanda. Yeah. I'm thinking, isn't that when didn't she text her because someone on social media reached out being like, I have this inappropriate video of Amanda in West? Now, now, if that's true, if I'm probably crazy, I'm probably mixing things up. I don't think so though. But if that's true, I feel like if there was a video, Ciara wouldn't like questioning it and she'd be I know already, you're an asshole. Well She said, Can I see the video? And the person, whoever it was, was like, Well, I can't send it to you because that's like considered like revenge porn. I can get in trouble. You're welcome to come see it. What an asshole. Are you serious? Yeah. Wait, just for sending it to Ciara? You can't send that to anyone. You don't understand that. You sued. Are you serious? Why you can't send someone else to see? ⁓ because wait, ⁓ you're talking about nudes? I thought you just said it was a video of them together. ⁓ you don't know what the I'm talking about? No. Holy shit. So the video I'm referring to is was taken allegedly someone on the street from Amanda's window and they're doing something they won't say, they're just saying it's highly inappropriate, obviously. Gotcha. Okay, that makes sense. Because I was like, wait a minute, people film these stars all the time and send them to everyone. Do you think that's okay? Like I didn't know. Like you're gonna I'm gonna have to get HR involved. So whatever. That's just I just thought that was weird. And I'm like, why would they not bring that up? Either it's coming in part three, there's a cease and desist, or Bravo's like, this is just too inappropriate for us to touch. Right. Anyway, I know, but Bravo is so weird with the way that they like piece things together and like manipulate it. Yeah, I mean, totally. Amanda's saying that everything was PG. Dude, I can't like Okay, okay. What does that mean? Again. Allegedly on something. Anyone that's on something is gonna like make up these like ridiculous lies and just start saying things that make no sense. Like there's no way anyone's gonna believe you, honey. Well, I think she was just so frustrated, it just came out of her mouth. Yeah, exactly. and then Mia says But you get like mixed up, you know what I mean? Like your brain's kind of fuzzy. ⁓ 100%. 100%. ⁓ so and then that's when Mia was like, because Amanda is like you can't help who you like. It's actually you can't help. Who you love, you can, and you should if it's your best friends, whatever. ⁓ and so Mia goes, Yeah, and when are we morally bankrupt? Yes. I love best friends. Do you remember Faye Resnick from Yes The Morally Corrupt Ray Fesnik? My mine went right to that franchise, but But wait, Amanda also followed up, and this is what I really got upset and makes me hate Amanda so much is that you first off, you shouldn't be given attitude to Ciara at all, and also Don't swear at her, but also after she said you can't help who you like, she also said, I'm not allowed to pursue something that I feel strongly about. And then Ciara rebuttles with, what do you mean you felt strongly about it? Because at that point you said you were exploring it. And you guys were figuring out what the feelings were. So what do you mean they were strong? She got her right there. I don't even know. I don't know how Andy wasn't like, I refuse to move on until you respond to that fully, Amanda. I know he really didn't interject a lot during this part one. It was very interesting. Which is fine. Cause sometimes he does it like interjects too much, but it's like Right. You we need the answer to that question because Ciara just took a needle and poked a hole in their whole fake plot. Like that's all we needed was for Amanda's feet or f forget her, West's feet 'cause he's way less smart about what he says. ⁓ yeah, he's so done. Feet to the fire to answer that question because that doesn't make any sense. Yes, absolutely. I think even Carl said that. ⁓ wait, Carl about the statement when he was like, Well, I just think it's weird, like Putting out that statement like without mentioning them is like singing happy birthday without saying their names. I was like, what an analogy it is. It's like cheering for your favorite sports team and saying go team. Exactly. And then what is going on right now? What else was it? ⁓ when someone was like, Did PR write like someone from PR write that for you? And they were like, God, I hope not. But then Amanda says, like, no, chat GPT, and she was like allegedly trying to Be funny with I think she was trying to be funny and she couldn't read the room It's like your voice is so monotone and everyone no one's gonna let you make a funny. Yeah, yeah. And Ciara was like, ⁓ chat GPT isn't that stupid. And a man is like much smarter than me. Yeah like okay, we yeah, we now like ha ha ha ha. Gosh. ⁓ She was very quiet ⁓ of this part one, but I also felt like she was a little tipsy. Her face seemed like she was like a little out of it when she talked. Yeah. I felt like she like had like three shots before she went on and it was like hitting her as the part one started going. Maybe she was because it's like she was. Knowing you're not on the hot seat, you weren't even in every episode. She has not been able to just sit back and glide and say whatever she wants because she has in the city. She doesn't need the show now. Right. She probably said, I'm taking, I'm drinking what I can, drinking mama's mimosas, and who gives a shit? Yeah. She was making like little side comments under her breath, which I really loved. I love that they picked up her mic on that and like put that in there. But yeah, she's that was great. But I really think she was tipsy. ⁓ quick move. But why did she laugh at West? And then she's like That's not fair, West. Don't make me laugh. And I'm like, Lindsay, what are doing? ⁓ whatever. I don't like that. Should be like putting him up on a stick. She did though. We haven't gotten there yet, but she gave it to him. She did. Well, I guess I would if I was in Sarah's position. Yeah, I would be like, Lindsay, what do you mean? Like, don't publicly say he's making you laugh and he's saying funny, I don't remember what he's saying. I yeah, he was I think he was talking about his like something about sweating and then he had a pack of fifty. I think she's saying that to Andy. He said, Do you have some ice packs? And he said like blah blah and she's I have a pack of fifty. And she was like, don't make me laugh. That's not fair. No, she said West. ⁓ god. Yeah. Well I And I was like Lindsay, not really enough for me to remember. So clearly. All right. So let's talk about West for a second. Yeah, I hate that. so Ciara says to West pretty much, You are the most fraudulent person sitting on this couch. Yeah. We don't know who you are when the cameras are off. Like you're two different people. Yep. That's when she brought up Meija which we already discussed. Yep. He denies everything. Amanda's like, Of course I knew about it. Like, relax. ⁓ I ⁓ I just want to say though, the that hair necklace, the horse tie, hair neck whatever it is. Yeah, horse hair tie. You know, you watch Southern Charm, right? ⁓ of course. Yes, okay. So of course I knew that. So wasn't it giving you the same vibes as Shep's shark tooth necklace? Like We couldn't get away for like two seasons. Like Different people would have them and I'd be like, Wait, so are you so like Meija is making these ties for every guy that she's fucking around with? I don't know. That's the shark tooth thing, right? Because he gave it to What was her name? And then the the Bahamas girl. Yes. Well, I don't I think Meija maybe you know what? I hope she didn't just give it to West. I know. She may I'm glad she did because maybe now playing chess. I bet today she'll have a verified check next to her name watch. ⁓ because yesterday she didn't. shit. I checked last night. That's when I saw that thing about her being like, if I was up there, they'd have a heart attack. I I think it was that. Wowzers. ⁓ Yeah. Can we talk about something like nice for a second? Yeah. From the reunion. Let's talk about good old Carl and Bailey. I don't think that's a nice conversation, because I think Carl's a fucking asshole in everything he said in that. Honestly. I was floored by that. Why? ⁓ my god. Because he was like He was not being mean. He was He wasn't being mean, but he was being like, let me say these generic things to avoid Actually telling you that I'm not into her. Because, like, if I was Bailey, I wouldn't want him to say on national TV, it's because I don't like you. No, I know, but I feel like if he I'm sure he said that to her privately, he gave a very PR answer instead of saying I think that the real answer that nobody wants to say out loud is again, Carl's been doing this for a decade. He sees what happens when you date someone. On the summer house, more importantly, anyone in that realm. I'm going to predict right here, right now, episode two of Wicked Messy. Yeah. Carl ultimately will end up with not an A, B, or C-list celebrity. Yeah. He's gonna end up with a regular schmegular. I think that he thinks Bailey is pretty and sweet and nice. Yeah. But ultimately he's like, For what? But she's not really that big. But she's on reality TV. I think he wants a normie. Okay. All right. All right. I don't know. I don't know. I do think that like But I feel like Bailey was so detached from like being like a reality you know, those reality TV stars that like really want the limelight and they do all these wild and crazy things. I feel like he Bailey was kind of mild tempered on the show. I don't really think other than the the comment about Ben and Amanda at dinner, I don't really think she did that anything that wild. She can be I have nothing but great things to say about Bailey, but at the end of the day, you're either the type of person that's gonna go on reality TV or you're not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those there's no discussion. There's true. You can be the best, sweetest reality show, but you're not the same as someone that But when they were talking about this, about the Bailey and Carl thing. Okay. Bailey's makes a comment about was it Bailey that said like the age difference? Mm-hmm. And then Carl comes back with No, I didn't even think of that. So it's like, dude, why are you like Striking out like on on reasons that would then solidify why you didn't pursue it. Like I don't I don't know. I think And he's like, I need marriage and I want to settle down and I'm not fucking around. And it's like, okay, but that's not really I don't think Bailey was just trying for a hookup. No, obviously not. Right. So like what are you I'm telling you, I think this I think that this was a fake storyline brought up by production and in the mix Bailey was like, Well, I could actually see if this worked. So I have a conspiracy theory. Okay. Tinfoil hat on. I feel as though Bailey and Carl were supposed to be pushed together, but I think and they were supposed to hook up and wild things were supposed to happen on the show. From production? Yes. Okay. I think production really wanted that to ⁓ And I think Carl was like, I think you're exactly right. I don't think he wanted it to be on a reality TV show. He probably saw that that was probably not gonna work out. But I think that ⁓ my god, I lost it. Conspiracy theory. ⁓ Twin Hat, you think that he for sure. I think production in their minds, and they didn't say this to Carl, I think they were like, We're gonna try and see if we can get Carl to stay on this show because he's literally been a fucking snooze fest and is not doing anything wild or crazy. So maybe if we do this, something wild's gonna happen. Or honestly, I wonder if they were like, maybe he'll relapse, start drinking, and like. Go wild on this show. But no matter what, I think it was Carl's chance to shine. And the reason I say that is because he I don't know if you recently saw the interview he did on a podcast when someone asked him, How do you feel about the fact that you're not actually being filmed much or shown on TV in in the city? Okay. And he ⁓ gave a very PR answer of like, Well, I think they were going with married people and like I didn't I didn't fit that, but I'd love to be on it again and like blah blah blah. He's so desperate to be on Bravo. I think that's the thing holding him together. So I feel like that was his last shot. And I I'm gonna put a conspiracy out there that that was his shot to get with Bailey and start something wild and have them be able to put something on the television that's gonna get ratings. And he failed. Listen, I don't think he's coming back. In the city and he did is Lindsay's show. No, in the city is Lindsay's show. I guarantee you she said I'm not filming with him. But he said he filmed. And he said they didn't use the footage. ⁓ of in the city? Yes. What? He's and I think he's there's gonna be a couple appearances, but I think he was thinking because the amount they probably filmed that it was gonna be more on what they're gonna show. so you're saying If him and Bailey were a thing, it might have been a better fit for the show. That is such a good theory. Yes, yes. And I think he blew it. I think he really blew it. ⁓ I hope not. And I mean you're 41, like why not just hook up with her? You know what? He didn't blow it though, because my prediction that we talked about last week is and I think he's gonna end up with me. She's on the other chair. I know. I worked. Wait, let's hit her vape because I really need it. ⁓ my god. I feel like I might need to re readn do a nude pod here. ⁓ god. Yeah, let me just put it new. You know what the problem here is that I don't know it doesn't show me a counter on how far how long we've been recording, which I don't love. At least an hour. No Zay Alicia, you said that the last time. Six fourteen. We started at five fourteen talking? Around then because I set the food to be sent in an hour and it said six fifteen to six twenty five. Forty eight minutes. Okay. Let's get back to it and we can always make this a two part episode if we need to. Yeah. Okay. But I'm gonna cut out a ton of this anyways, remember? No, you can't keep cutting out the side talk. Not all of it. No. I'm talking about like the bullshit. When I had to move her when we're hitting our pod. I'm cutting all that out. ⁓ Right. And that it doesn't part of that. Yeah. Okay. I see what you're saying. Like, no, we talk we laugh. So even when like so you do this a lot w the last recording, you go, I I I I I have to cut out like eighty eyes. So what you see is actually not how you speak. You're actually like ⁓ but I I I ⁓ kidding. Well that's because you're talking over me. No, it's not. No, it's not. And you say like so much, I delete so many likes. ⁓ just let me. Let me be me, honey. Let my freak flag fly. Wait, let me hit this one more time. Get one more in. And drink your lover boy for the love of I have had way more than you. No, you haven't. No, they're really the same. No, they're yeah, fuck off. Wow. Just ⁓ one thing I noticed the last time we recorded, I was sipping the wine and I could hear my lips, but somehow it didn't go in the video, I don't think. I also could, and at one time And be careful shaking this because this will make noises for someone. I know I already shaked it. And if you hit it, which is annoying. ⁓ Okay. Where are we now? Morally bankrupt. Morally bankrupt. So this is when, and I'm gonna read the quote. Ciara said, We might as well address the details before I put them in the ground and cover them with dirt. That was fire. Bury them, honey. And I'm shocked she said things like that, honestly, just because I think her image is like. Really soft and like, I don't know, with the Girl Scouts things, and I was like, whoa, she's coming in hot today. That you did it on purpose because you're an fucking snake, Amanda. You're a snake in the fucking grass is what you are. Yep. You're a snake in the fucking grass, and you should honestly just say okay, because you know you are, you move silent, but you're fucking deadly. Yep. She is giving out great lines. I wish maybe we should do a poll with the two people that listen to us. If I can figure that out. Who gave it to who better? Ariana, when she during the Scandoval reunion, she she fucking buried them. And people ⁓ like, ⁓ she went too hard. I'm like, what would you do if ⁓ that was only two weeks after she found But I don't think we can make that decision or that comment yet until we see all three parts of this reunion. Because there could be a lot more. ⁓ there definitely is, ⁓ Here's my concern. Because there's one recording out there where all of them were screaming at them at once. Which I haven't heard on Pyron yet. But here's my concern. Yeah. Though the recordings that got leaked. Yeah. This is somebody that was on set. We don't know. It wasn't, it was production. It was production. Yep. So either they just took their phone out. They took their phone out at that exact time, or they had the full recording and picked. But choose. I think that's what it was because there's they said there's no way someone could record that on their phone because it was specifically their microphones. Like it was someone in the back who had all the audio and they could select which one. But that makes it worse, Hayley, because that means they selected the best of the best, which we already heard. Yeah, I know. So I but I only heard a snippet. I didn't hear a lot. Well, I heard the whole snake in the grass. I heard a whole bunch of lot. Yeah. Anyways, ⁓ yeah, so West is a fraud. Carl and Bailey. We'll we'll get to ⁓ I can't ⁓ wait, real quick with Carl and Bailey. What is Carl's new statement the clocking? Because one of his con ⁓ his quotes was I wasn't fully clocking the energy when asked about when Lindsay was like, Are you into Bailey? And that's when he was like, Well, well, I wasn't clocking the full energy, I guess. Never heard him say that. That's I know. But that's his new thing. And remember he said in the igloo of trust? It's my new thing too. Lindsay? Yeah, but it's getting over. Get over it, Carl. Okay. Yeah. No. He's like he's on. Speaking of key words. ⁓ wait, wait, wait, Carl, I like our friendship. That was another cop out statement. He kept saying, I like our friendship. I like our friendship. I wanted to pull my hair up. Yeah, I was like, if I hear friendship one more time. I know. So Kyle's ⁓ Hot word of he was quiet. He no, okay, so which drove me nuts. So in so he says harsh like three times in like two episodes. He calls ⁓ Ciara's comment that will get too harsh. He says talking to Daniel And that was at the very end talking to Danielle harsh and him and Amanda, and we'll get to these scenes later. He said it three times in those two hours of episodes. That's his ding ding. Yeah, but he was so quiet. Did you not think that was weird? That he was so quiet and he really wasn't piping up much. And I felt like everyone else, and obviously Ciara, which makes sense, but it should have been him and Ciara really going in on Amanda. And I just didn't really feel I felt like he was like a deer in headlights the whole time. I mean, he obviously has still an emotional connection to her. He's been defending Amanda without a reason for him to go hand bone. When you're in love with someone, you have that emotional connection, they hurt you that bad. Immediately you're gonna be rage. But if you really, really, really, really truly love them, you're not going to want to hurt them like that. And he's a businessman. He doesn't want to never be able to film with her again. Yeah, because he was s most likely sober. He was sober stuff. But it's s Ciara's at the end when he says that was harsh. And we'll get to that. That was she killed it. All right, let's talk let's talk, let's switch gears to KJ. Yeah. Yeah. So this is obviously super, super sad. They cut to him talking about how he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. So that's the the funniest thing that he used that acronym BPD. It's borderline personality disorder, which is very, very interesting because that is a very, very controversial disorder and diagnosis. Is that multiple personality? No, no, no, no. It's essentially when You have this extreme like lability of your mood. So you often have these like mood swings. You're often like very overly sensitive. You're overly reactive to things. You sabotage relationships because you're like, come to me, come to me, come to me. And then when they do, you're like, fuck you, get away. And it's just this back and forth. And and typically borderline is a product of environment or your upbringing. So it's usually like the kids that you know, were somewhat like what do we we call it, ⁓ unintentional neglect when you're not actually like responding to your child crying about something, you're like, you're fine. Like, yes, that can be a good thing in some ways, but for some kids it actually causes them to be like, Okay, well, you think I'm fine with that, then I'm gonna up the ante the next time. So it's essentially a lot of attention seeking behavior. Ninety-nine percent of people with borderline are self-harming. because again, I'm gonna cut myself and then I want my friend to then come and rescue me, even though an hour before I just like trash talked the shit out of them and screamed at them. Like it's it's very, very interesting. So I was just I I'm actually proud of him for bringing that up, but I didn't know if it was strategic that he said BPD and left that kind of open for interpretation. But I doubt it. He also on his Instagram, he's a he I don't know if they reached out to him after they learned that he ⁓ said that he has borderline, but he's actually now associated with the Borderline Association or whatever of America. ⁓ that's awesome. ⁓ yeah, it's really, really cool. ⁓ but yeah, I feel like a lot of people are probably like, ⁓ it's bipolar, but it's it's not. ⁓ no, I just assumed I was actually pretty. Yeah. I just said it on podcast. Yeah. I was confident. For everyone else to know, BPD is gonna be borderline, but if someone's accurate in the acronyms, BPAD is going to be bipolar because it's a bipolar affective disorder. ⁓ okay. So that's probably where the compute So I Yeah I don't know very, very close. I don't know if he did it intentionally, but but that's interesting. Yeah, very very you know what I also found interesting is that he said and he I he used his words clearly. Yeah. Mia and Ciara visited him in the hospital. Right. Meaning I know West didn't. Yeah. And where's Dara? They just broke up, I think. I told you that. ⁓ okay. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm confused because there's one picture on KJ's Instagram of them, but I don't know if it was a picture he did for a brand or an ad or something. It doesn't say ad, but it's only one picture. But that's the thing. He deleted her off Instagram and deleted all their posts. I did not check Daras though, which I should have. I don't know why I didn't. I'm gonna look after this. Yeah. So yeah, that that's breaking news as of like yesterday. That is Crazy. Literally insane. But I also have in the back of my mind she's a clout chaser, too. She's just like West. ⁓ And they know each other. That's so weird. Okay, so she obviously liked used KJ, in my opinion, as a stepping stone to get on the show. Just like West did with Ciara. However, I do want to point out a fact. And I'm you have to be fair with shit like this. Yeah. She dated West before West was famous. Yeah. Was it though? Did they hook up before he was on the show though? Yeah, that's my understanding. Yeah, but he was on for what two seasons before she then joined a party and he was like, I hooked up with her? Yeah, I I think it was before he was famous though. And then she ended up. I'm not saying that she I don't know though. I'm all I'm saying is that it's very, very possible that she liked West. He denied her, and then he got famous. And then I'm not saying she's not a cloat chaser. I'm just saying it's important to remember that. She could have really been hurt by like that was probably authentic. I think she was gonna get back on the show. She was but if he denied her, why would he then ask her to come to a party and then start getting her on the show? I don't know. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Did he ask her to that party? Yeah, he invited her. I something's not right. I I think they hooked up during a summer or not summer, actually fall or winter after his first season on the show. And then she was probably like, ⁓ that's so cool. And I think West was probably like, Yeah, I'm not looking for a relationship. Probably he was seeing Ciara at the time, probably going home with her. And like hooking up with Dara on the side and then was like, Yeah, okay, this isn't anything serious. And then invites her to a party because they need more people at those parties. And she clings on to KJ because Ben is is secretly dating Sabrina, which we'll get to in a second. ⁓ I know. anyways, he needs to be protected at all costs. He is so sweet, he's so handsome, he is just like an angel, and we must protect him at all costs. So speaking of that, when he was crying and everything, what I was like, ⁓ oh my ⁓ is Jesse. He was literally in tears. ⁓ I have grown to love Jesse in the the last half of this season. And then this reunion. He was literally so upset about it. And like, he's just such a sweetheart. He is ⁓ he in his heart is giving and is carrying the energy that West fraudulently pretends to have. Yeah. Jesse does care about the woman, what they think. He is a sweet guy. He is a nice guy. There's no act there. He's not manipulative, in my opinion, like that. He is who West pretends to be. But and that's why I said I said this half of the season and then the reunion, because I still think that he screwed over Lexi. I think everything Lexi said was true. So I don't think he's an innocent guy. I don't think he's the, you know. number one boyfriend but I think that he is a good person and now I'm starting to he was raised well but I but I can't say the same about West. No he is a nightmare. So walking. Anyways Mia Mia talking about ⁓ her mom yeah was beautiful that made me tear up a little bit I'm sure that hit home for you. Definitely definitely and I liked how like guests were asking and like writing in to be like, ⁓ did seeing a psychic help you? So I loved that aspect of it. ⁓ You are soon, right? Next month? The 15th, yep. I will definitely get an update on that. Yeah. Two weeks away. However, Mia, I thought she w should have gone harder on Amanda. I felt like she was actually being kind of nice. We haven't seen anything yet. And her, she's probably in the same mindset as what Paige said on Giggly Squad. I'm going to purposefully not speak for her because she can speak for herself. I think that she and she is a mama bear Mia. It's not about her defending or not. I think she knew when to step in, knew when to not. Yeah. Although she she got Amanda and West good when Andy was like, ⁓ you broke up with your boyfriend. And she's Yeah. And he's You see in anyone else? And she got And she goes, Well, I don't believe in like jumping in one relationship after another. I find it to be she said, I think that's extremely unhealthy. And it maybe I did hear that, yeah. To Amanda and West, and they're just like, ⁓ And I'm like, got him. Wait, but she didn't post about that or anything. Which why would she? What am I talking about? But like that was kind of on the DL. I didn't realize they broke up. Good. Yeah. Well, for her, not for us. I wanna know, of course. But like that. I don't know what happened. Probably because he's away all the time. Because you brought that up. Probably. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it's all of that. I'm sure a million new Doors and opportunities have opened up with her, especially after her Watch What Happens live appearance. She ⁓ no, Rihanna loved it. She's like best friends with Rihanna. When she brought up Rihanna, Amanda's face was just like, kill me now. I know. I don't play I that is that is I okay. That's the other thing with Amanda. She was making all these faces and stuff. I'm like, what are you doing? ⁓ Desmond got sick before I came here too. Again? So you got something living in your house. You better not be bringing on hair. I don't have anything living in our house. Yeah, it's living inside of you that you brought. No, no, no, no. He's fine. He's fine. I think he was just hot. I think I think his nose was running. Yeah, which means you're sick. That is a sick response to your nose. Bailey's not, you got him sick. I think Bailey got me sick. Listen, all I know is the little one's with his dad. He's all fine. All right. I have ⁓ something else. Do you have Anything else on K KJ and Mia before we move on to Ben and Bailey? ⁓ I didn't know Mia lived in the same building as Ciara. That was a fun fact that I learned. ⁓ I didn't even hear her say that. That's cool. Good for them. I know, right? But so that was like a friendship that started up in the DL. However, ⁓ bringing Paige back into this. Even though Paige is like so pro Ciara and like making that known, it seems like their friendship kind of is not as strong as it used to be. And Hannah has been like the priority in a way. Hannah's been the prior she's never been closer to Ciara than Hannah. Yeah. She's well, I'm sure when they were filming together, Ciara and ⁓ Paige, they were probably a little bit closer because Hannah wasn't there, right? No, they did the podcast together. That's like you literally can't their bond is yeah, bigger definitely bigger than Any those are I think that Ciara is Paige's real true friend, but also a work friend. Hannah, it's like they never work together in their freaking lives. That's like I think they're all like soul sister bonded, but there is they're just magic together, Hannah and Paige. I mean you can't ⁓ they definitely can't. But I feel like Ciara must feel like she's like in the the back burner there a little bit. Probably three's a bad number with friends. Everybody knows that. ⁓ yeah. Okay, can we talk about Ben versus Bailey? ⁓ Oh my god, Ben is such a piece of shit. I have been waiting. I fucking Can't stand him. I have been waiting for this since he yelled at her in episode two. been ⁓ praying on his downfall with this. Who is he talking about that that Ben also Sabrina. ⁓ we didn't see it, so this is what happened. Okay. Was that the clip they showed when he was swearing and mouthing off like, ⁓ you need to be on time because if we have fucking kids and they're late. ⁓ maybe. That's they showed that and I was like, whoa, why didn't they show more of this? It it Right? It sounds to me like ⁓ Bailey has seen some stuff off camera because they they referred to like not in this, but I've heard in interviews them talking about ⁓ my god, what was I gonna say? That I hate when that happens. ⁓ my god, I don't know. It's great, it's like our minds moving so fast that we just black out. Yeah, I literally just blacked out, but Anyways, Bailey was saying she's seen a lot, which we don't think was filmed. Yeah, which I in the background. Yeah, I think he's a sneaky little fuck. And I anyone that goes on the bachelor is a sneaky fuck. And you have the ego of like he he might the bachelor. He didn't just go on the bachelor, he was the Australian like that's even worse. ⁓ my god. Anyways, like you want eighty women fighting over you? Give me a fucking break. So she is pretty much saying like you only reprimand women. Like what Kyle just called his wife a bitch on national TV and you're like ⁓ he fuck off Amanda or shut the fuck up or something to Amanda and he was rubbing his back. Literally. Yeah. I'm like, this is sick. When she brings up Sabrina, she's like, I've seen you right and she loves Sabrina. And do you know that Sabrina, after this reunion, publicly defended Ben? And was like, he has been nothing but nice and kind to me. I don't know why. Like she would say that and frame it like this. Well, I mean, she's already been brainwashed because she's on the show stating that they just started getting together and they're now saying I love you when clearly Bailey calls them out and says you have a fucking picture from June, which I thought was really funny because then like it was like a show, not June. Yeah. Which he's a fucking liar. Here's the thing about Ben is I feel like everybody knows a guy like this. Yeah. If you rewatch anything, yeah, he never yelled, and that's his big trick in his back pocket to say, I never yelled at you. This is the type of anger Except for that footage they showed with him and Sabrina. He was raising his voice. I'm ta I'm talking yelling. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think he gets so mad and is so sharp and mean and red in the face angry without screaming like Lindsay. You know, it's two different but I find that to be more sinister. ⁓ absolutely. And that's that's just on camera. Because that's the manipulation. That's what we're Exactly. And that's where the gaslighting comes in, because they're like, Well, I didn't do that. But Bailey called it's made the same statement I did that on the podcast last episode that she thought he was gonna make out with fucking Kyle in that closet. Remember I said that I had questioned Benjamin's sexuality and yeah, she calls it too. I like Bailey a lot. Who knows? I don't think I don't think that's straight as a board. I think she's just an asshole. But anyways. No, I think he's fucking confused. Okay. See And he was picking up Amanda and remember over the bar. And so he was allegedly s with Sabrina at that point. That was your girlfriend at that point. And you were picking Amanda up and just because Amanda was skinny dipping. Because he did want to screw Amanda and Amanda said it later in the season. Why are they not bringing that up? Conspiracy, yeah. I think she did screw him in Italy or wherever the fuck they were. Yeah, Italy. Because it was Andrea's wedding. She's in Italy right now with West! I know. If I were Kyle, I'd be like, because when they came back to the summer house, that was like season nine or something. They were like, we went to Italy. It was actually great for our relationship. If I were Kyle, I'd be like, ⁓ wasn't that like not that you can like call a country your country, but like, wasn't that kind of our place? Yeah, yeah. She's an fucking asshole. ⁓ okay, Ciara's monologue at the end. Yeah. I thought I had it quoted and I don't see it anywhere. But she's pretty much saying, actually, like he is ⁓ she Amanda is a great fit for West because she'll let him do whatever, like she doesn't have personality of her own. He can do whatever the fuck he wants. Yep. So yeah, you guys would be I wish I had the quote written down because it was insane. And Kyle, shut up, Kyle. He goes, that was a little harsh. Yeah, no. Woo! So stupid. What a he's a doozy! He is listening. And I I honestly feel really bad for him. I really do. Yeah, I definitely feel I felt even more bad for him in the city. Are we ready to get into that? Yeah, let's do it. All right, let's take a quick break. Okay. Need to pee. I don't think I can pause this though. You don't need to. ⁓ we just keep it running. I need to pee. I need to make if our food got here. Wait, where's your phone? ⁓ ⁓ I see. Bailey, no. He won't he won't go anywhere. All right. So let's should we just put it in the oven? Because I don't think we're gonna have that much to say about it in the city, honestly. Yeah, we're gonna Yeah. ⁓ yeah, that was delivered like twenty five minutes ago. Okay. I have to go peek in. That really twenty five minutes ago. Yeah, really. Believe. All right. So yeah, in the city. Yeah, let's dive right into in the city, episode two. Yep. ⁓ we start with I'm pretty sure it's Kyle and Amanda as she's getting her stuff to move out. Yeah. As what she describes as a one month vacation. Yeah, why are you packing all those heels? Right. It was so fucking weird. I'm like, why are you picking there was like twelve different pairs of heels. I'm like, what are you doing in one month? She didn't even leave your house, you said. Well, the answer of well, I'm sure the answer is she knew it wasn't gonna be a month. ⁓ my god. She's like I better get start packing 'cause it's gonna take me a while to get all my shit out here for real. She wasn't leaving for a month. But what about the state of that apartment with all her stuff in the shower? ⁓ Oh you didn't know that? In one of the bedrooms. That's disturbing to me. You didn't know that about that? No, that's that's terrible. Kyle has said that so many times. He's like, you guys have no idea how we're living. Good thing they didn't have kids. Cause that would be a disaster. To be fair, to be fair, they're in New York and they have money, but not enough to get a fucking mansion of an apartment. Like, what are you gonna do? That apartment is huge for New York. Well, it it is for New York that's hu and they have two apartments, remember, because one was for Lover Boy in the same building. She's Or across the building or whatever. definitely She's definitely not dirty, but she is messy. Yeah. ⁓ I was not loving that. Her comment, well, I need my sneakers so I can run away from you. I know. ⁓ and Then Kyle said harsh. That was one of the harshes! Yes, that was exactly. Yes! yes. She was also smiling and joking about it. She was just being like a robot. ⁓ Kyle's like face was like, ⁓ my god, I What are you doing? But so let's think about this. If this is how she was acting, just talking about a month, you were already done, you were already involved with West at that point. Yep. It was a wrap. Because you have no emotions for someone for 10 years. Well, someone with 10 years that's done done, like Kyle has been a monster. he's done everything wrong for a very long time. But it was hard for her to leave because of the love she had for him. So for her to be that disconnected, ding ding ding. I think you're on to something. If you're already having an emotional, maybe even at this point, ⁓ some sort of physical at this point. Yep. Of course you're not just checked out. It is funny to you. Yeah. Because you look at how he's treated you and you say, I can't believe I put up with shit. Well, that's when you can numb yourself, is when you're like, Well, I'm invested in this other person, so I don't actually have to break down. I don't have to get rageful. I don't have to do any of it. I can just be happy. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is too, like, we've seen how Kyle treats her. We've seen her reaction to Kyle's treatment, but we haven't gotten too much of them in their apartment and seeing, well, no shit. It's a fucking pig's dye. Who was gonna film in there? No, but I mean even just them on their own in any environment besides like them getting dinner over, like to see how she treats him in like in real life, it's like if Kyle is dealing with this constantly, as he claims, he could be I who knows, but if that is the truth that this is how she is on a daily basis, yeah, even with Kyle not giving him anything in this situation, but it's like everybody has their point, forgive me or don't. Because I can't live like this. Well, yeah. And if you know that that stuff was happening and you forgave it before the marriage, like ⁓ you're giving him a pass for that. And but also to be fair to Kyle, I think again, like the way that they what they chose to put in the seasons, every time Kyle was a dick or an asshole or out of control, it was because he was under the influence and he was super drunk. So I don't really feel like they ever really showed Kyle as much in in their dynamic of their relationship when he was sober. sober and businessman. No, they don't. And he he's on the Traitors I guess a new season of The Traitors. Kyle is. ⁓ And they showed a clip. I don't think it's out yet. Maybe it is. We'll need to look into that. But he says in the clip, like he's in a confessional or something. And he's like, everyone is so used to seeing me like bro frat guy on like Summer House that they never showcase me enough as a businessman. Yeah. I am strategic. I am smart. I am made for this. ⁓ yeah. They don't show that enough. The fact that he hasn't gone bankrupt yet, like he's smart. He's smart and I don't care what anybody says. He's a good businessman. Yeah, yeah. Even Amanda at her most angry at him has been like, I could never take that away from him. He is I've never her words were I've never met such a hard worker. And she meant that, by the way. And this is why I think the whole season ten of Summer House, I think she was trying to paint this picture of Kyle and make her look like the victim because she knew what bomb was gonna be dropped at the end of this. And West knew that too. He said, Amanda is about to be the next Ariana. This relationship is going down in flames. And I think it's ⁓ Kyle's words. Yes, because you wanted to hitch on the back during her glow up. Yep. I believe And did you see Lindsay's comment to that? No. And bingo was his name, ⁓ I was like, ⁓ my god, she's great. god. So this Whitney character, the one that's dating Kenny. Yeah. She's like this whole episode is like she's settling into New York, like she wants to make friends. Yeah, they have this party. Like, okay, you can be friends with people on your cast, but if you are truly lonely and had a great group of girls back in Cali, you need you're gonna need to actually make friends not on camera. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I really hope that she is because she seems lovely and you cannot survive in New York City with just knowing your boyfriend when it's this dude Kenny. You're you're gonna need friends. Yeah. Well with a guy like that, you're gonna need many friends. Yeah, he's red flag city dude, especially the whole fight with Lindsay and the party. ⁓ my god, them going at it. I was like, What is going on? But Lindsay kind of looked silly at one point because he calls her out during that argument and he's like, You're all about the drama. And she's like, No, I'm not. And he's like, You're at my girlfriend's welcome party fighting with me. And that's not dramatic. It's not dramatic. And she goes, Well, you started it. I was like, Lindsay, you couldn't have come up with anything else. I mean, she was clearly projecting on him. Yeah. And he was even like, So I'm moving my girlfriend here after six months, but you had a baby after two with a guy and Yeah, which thought that was kind of fucked up though. Like it's like I don't think that is equivalent. I mean, they're both in the same city. They were dating and she got pregnant. That happens all the fucking time. People don't date someone and then say, Hey, move across the country. point. ⁓ every Like ⁓ I don't think those are equivalent at all. Right. Well what well the thing the quiet part that they're not saying out loud is Hello, she moved here so she could be on the show. Yeah. Like let's not dig into this too much, Lindsay and Kenny. Like ⁓ come on. I know. like, what's the motive there? What's the end result that you want from that? For him to be like, okay, yeah, I'm not gonna marry her. And you're not sure. Or maybe that's what it is. Because remember the first episode, Kyle and him were talking, and he's like, Well, you never really know if it's the right person. ⁓ he is not, he's not in it. This girl is he is the type of guy that is always going to get the most beautiful, sweet, genuinely down to their core. Good person, and it's the type of guy that everyone always asks with each girl, How did you get her? Don't hurt her. He is a fuck boy. And we'll we'll get to that in a second. But him with Lindsay, he was like, You're you were recruiting people to come over, yeah. Like all this stuff. It's like, yeah, this is a TV show. Exactly. Sorry you couldn't recruit Gavin because he already turned on. And wherever the cameras are is wherever anyone else is gonna want to be. So, like, what are you talking about? Do you know nothing? Okay, can we talk about Can we talk about Kenny and Gavin during boys night? So keep in mind Gavin during episode one was like teaming up with Lindsay, like joking about Kenny being a fuck boy. Yeah. And Kenny was like, well, that's when my mom passed away. And Gavin was like, so is it in like the same realm of time that you're a fuck boy? Like just making light. Like he was just joking. I can see apparently like Kenny was saying this happened like not even that long ago, his mom passing. So I I didn't catch that the first time, so I retract whatever I said before. Like I think he was genuinely upset. Yeah. I do. Wait, are you talking about during his commentary this episode when he was tearing up? Last time, when he was like mad at Gavin for saying, like, you know, ⁓ you were a fuckboy around the time that your mom passed away. ⁓ yeah or whatever. Then this episode we find out that it didn't happen that long ago, his mother passing. And I was like, ⁓ shit, I do feel bad 'cause that's your friend, like But did he actually say the time frame that it happened? Yeah, 'cause yes. That that yes, exactly. He Kenny confirmed it himself and he was like, Well, I was only acting like that at that time because I was going through it because my mom had passed away. He was using that as like, No, if you're a fuck boy, you're a fuck boy. I can see what you're doing, but I believe that you believe that. Right. But he brings it back up this episode and was like, You're my boy, you should have had my back. It's like and it was so cringe when they walked it was that Gavin's bar? Yes. Yeah. And Rob works there, Danielle's ex? That was fake. That pissed me off that they pretend that pissed me off that they were pretending that they didn't know he was gonna be there. I know, I'm like, there's no way this was that connected. How did you get Gavin on And have to mic them and get them to sign off. Of course Lindsay knew. But unless they did that on purpose though, and Gavin was a part of the show because he hired Rob and Rob was a chef there. Maybe that's how Gavin got into it, but Lindsay claims they've been friends for a long time. But Lindsay also said she met her she met Gavin through Kyle. Well, guess what? I don't wanna see ⁓ Danielle's ex Robert on my screen unless I liked Robert. Unless Robert is willing to talk about Danielle. Because the second they said the D word, he was like, All right, gotta go bye! Like, do you think we just wanted to catch up with you? Like you were hired to come on the show to talk shit. About Danielle with Lindsay. You froze up and you said talk to you guys later. I was like, we didn't need that scene. I know. That question about Gavin. Is he gay? No, right? No. Well, I don't know. But they keep talking about like girls' nights and like I know. And then he like went in for that like weird cheek kiss with Lindsay. I don't think he is. I don't know. I feel like my gaydar was going off a little bit. You said that about three different people in the last nine hour. So I think Ben I'm a hundred percent. A clock a broken a broken clock is right twice a day. So you could be right. This is a warped in the Bravo Vars clock. Yeah, you I can you just put the word allegedly across the screen? So this is is that the word of this episode? Allegedly, yes, that should be the name of the episode. Allegedly slash harsh slash what the what did you say? Clocking? Glocking. What a great Everyone's getting clocked today. okay, so let's just take a quick second to talk about Danielle and Eoin or Eoin. ⁓ my god. Whatever no Lindsay he calls him on. On or off. Yep. So let's talk about ⁓ Off. He didn't say much this episode at all. No, he didn't, except ⁓ that's all I get for closet space. And it was like this. Okay. That's all I give Tim. Yeah. He gets a corner of that. You gotta and that's not your apartment, dude. ⁓ no, they did the move in together. Isn't he like a famous tennis player? Isn't he a famous tennis player? Okay, well, you look like you came for money. He's retired, yeah. Okay, well, get a bigger closet space than that. Yeah, he's interesting. Yeah, they together he ended up with. But it it isn't he still married while this is taping? Well, not officially designed, that's what they're saying. Yeah, weird. ⁓ yeah. What was Danielle wearing at that party? I don't I don't even remember what the see-through lace and it didn't look like she had anything on under it. ⁓ I don't remember. See her boobies. And then it had the the complete out in the back, which I liked. ⁓ yeah. But the whole it did it looked like we were sagging, we didn't have anything on and our boobies were all out. Which is funny because she and I said this last week, I'll say it again, looks the best she's ever looked. Yeah, not in that of a how it happens, you look great and then boom, that's when you get pregnant. Yep. She looks great though. She'll I'll give her that. ⁓ I really do you have anything else to say about that? Because her plopping the hello kiss on Lindsay? ⁓ well their interaction. I was like, Yiiiikeees. she really got her good because she was like, Hi. And then like Lindsay's like, What the fuck just happened? She should have just left it. But you know what? I think Danielle's smart. Danielle knows this is Lindsay's show, and the only time they're gonna bother showing her is when she's interacting with Lindsay. She wasn't asked back to Summerhouse. Like there's Danielle, I I truly believe if I ha if I met her, like never saw saw her on TV and I met her, I would like her. Yeah. Would I want to be your best friend? No, but I would not have this feeling towards her. But she's just so annoying on TV because she wants to be the cool girl so bad. And you're not she wants be liked by all the guys. She does. And it's like and she and she is pretty. She is beautiful and she is smart and she has all the things, but it's how much you want to fit in, I guess. I I can't put my finger on what bothers me about her on TV, but I do firmly believe that she is a very likable, cool person in real life and she should just stay off camera because it's not doing anything for her. She's not getting these crazy brand deals. If she was that cool in real life, do you really think that Lindsay would have dropped her? Yeah, because Lindsay dropped her over what was said on national TV. Gotcha. Yeah. And you know, like I'd be pissed too. And did her actions and behaviors on the show. Yeah. Yeah. No, true. Absolutely. I mean, it's gone both ways over the years with both of them, but I mean, when Kyle talks to Danielle after that, like at the party, he's like, Yeah, I mean she did say that you're like a slut and boy crazy. She was why you he was hammered and I I ⁓ am ⁓ positive that that was not malicious. This is the problem with Kyle. Don't shoot the messenger. No, no, this is the problem with Kyle though, that I swear we've seen a million times the Amanda reacting in real life. Yeah. He was not being malicious. It just came out. He doesn't get that you like word vomit. You can't say that out loud. He doesn't get it though. Yeah. He does and the amount of times I've seen Amanda on camera literally just put her head down to be like, Are you really saying this out loud? This is one of those moments. Yep. That's what drinking does too. You have no impulse control. So like this hot milkman that Lindsay introduced? Frank!? ⁓ Andrea's friend. You don't think he's hot? I don't know. No. He looked like I don't know. I didn't get that he was that good looking. Yeah. He looked old to me and he had too much facial hair, scruffy, like ⁓ forgot to shave. ⁓ I don't want that type of old. I want old age wise, but not looking that old. He doesn't look old for a He looked like fifty to me. He looks great for a 50 year old. Sure. I don't care. I want to know if he's tall. ⁓ I thought he was think is very tall because he seemed like the same height as Lindsay almost. I'll be investigating this after. They're going on a date next episode. I know. Everyone always looks shorter on reality TV. True. Very true. ⁓ I hope it works out for her, at least on camera. I don't think it does though. I can say it. I don't care. I wanna see like I wanna see it. Do you think if it did work out and they were together right that ⁓ the production would be like you can't post with Frank because we want this season to play out and for people not to know if you're together? I would sure hope so because Bravo's usually pretty good at that. Yeah. But I damage control. I remember Paige saying, and this was on a pod, like after she had already left Summer House. I forgot I think it's when she was addressing the Ciara thing. And she's talking about how like her and Hannah left reality TV because it's like they wouldn't let you be authentically yourselves. And then she was like mentioning that someone had asked her about posting something and she was like, listen. Bravo has control. They don't have that kind of control over my life. Like I can post what I want. Will I get in trouble for it? Will you get in punished for it? Is one thing. Are you willing to do it? You can do whatever the hell you want. Yeah. Will you get in trouble? But have they altered contracts since then? Because they're like, ⁓ Paige found a little loophole. So now we're really gonna up the anti so you can't do shit. I don't know. I don't know. I mean I think they're dumb for not doing that in the first place. No kidding. It is just this was just a crazy episode. I didn't take many other notes. I don't have much else to say. I have a this felt more like a filler episode to prep us for the next episode. Right. The first scene they show is Amanda, West, and Ciara at dinner together. And then Ciara's joking like about like how like West is so happy with like them being together. And then Amanda's like, This is literally what he's been dreaming of. Like you are sick. It was sick. You're sick. It was sick. It's disgusting. Like how are they gonna say that they weren't in any type of affair? I just can't. I don't understand it. And then the next scene they show is the the Frank. I don't think it works out though. I don't I don't think Frank is for Lindsay. I think it it's not gonna work out. No, I don't think it's gonna work out, work out, but I want it to at least like Yeah, like see something. I wanted it to work out enough that they actually like get into a good old Lindsay activation. Well, I was just gonna say that. I wanna see Lindsay get so fucking drunk and then get activated by Kenny and go Hamba. Real activated though. Real activated. Like like old summer house seasons activated. Like production has to run over. Like when is the last fucking time you made me a sandwich. Like the camera is not even following her, but they hear her yelling across the room because she is Actually going off. She's holding it together very well. Well, she is a mother now, and her baby's not drinking that much. She's in the middle of court right now. True. So they use that shit. But yeah, so she was saying that it not court mediation. Yeah. And is that just like rights with the child? Well, like it was explained by her friend Yvonne, or whatever. It's like these are decisions that are gonna what did I say? What? You say Yavon. You don't pronounce the Y. Yvonne. Yvonne. Yvonne. Yavon. I'm only calling her that from now on. I lost my thought. You correcter. She was talking about the mediation and she was saying, yeah, that they're making decisions for the rest of Gemma's life. So that's she's 18 though, so the rest of her fucking life. So but what that means is like the kind of decisions is where she gonna s go to school. what state is she gonna live in, who has her when. I don't we don't know anything about this baby daddy. It's probably the authority of who makes those decisions and who can say what. Yeah, there's just there's tons, tons to it. I do not envy her. That sounds like a nightmare. Having to deal with that with a kid. What were you thinking? It's not good. It's not good. It's not good. All right. Poor Gemma. Listen, we gotta eat the food that got delivered an hour ago. Literally. It's probably cold as ice. ⁓ but yeah this was again a a blast and you know just please support us like subscribe share share tell your friends like hit us up write comments if you have questions about mental health love to hear it like yeah definitely send those her yeah ⁓ I do every day I'm unwell ⁓ it's 2026 and no one's well yeah but yeah no I mean Fantastic. we shall see what happens in part two of Summer House Reunion. And then this fucking dinner with West Amanda. Yeah. I cannot wait. So stay tuned, everyone. Stay tuned. Bye-bye. Bye.