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Ripped away, drop by drop, you lose your rights · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  On in the grip of oppression.
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  I fought for my liberty.
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  I paid with the blood of my people.
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  Freedom has never been free.
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  Now my doors always open.
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  To dreamers and Prince.
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  When I'm attacked, I protect N because my name is America.
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  I stand for the first time.
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  Hello, everyone.
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  Welcome.
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  This is Karen Sean.
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  You're listening to the Prism of America's Education brought to you on the America.
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  And after reading some of the horrific things that are in our food, I'll tell you, this past Valentine's Day, I had a rough time buying candy.
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  Because when I looked at it, there were more harmful ingredients in the candy that I love than I could imagine.
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  And it was staggering to think that all these years we have been eating this.
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  My wonderful chocolate.
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  Oh, I was so upset.
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  So I bought granola bars instead.
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  And my husband wasn't happy, but that's life.
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  At least they had wholesome healthy things in them.
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  And that is very important, folks.
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  Um, I spend more time now at the supermarket reading the labels and putting back things than I put in my basket.
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  Um, but I feel that no matter what we do, this is a choice that we make.
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  So we either choose to be healthy or we choose not to be healthy.
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  And I choose to be healthy.
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  So if it means a few extra minutes, so be it.
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  And if it means putting back the things that I used to think were wonderful, so be it.
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  Many things have changed.
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  Many of the things that we are learning have we have been lied to on multiple occasions, and uh we will be talking about some of those things right now with one of my uh favorite guests, Ed Vidal, who is in Miami, Florida.
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  And you think of wow, Florida, you're all both in the same state.
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  Well, guess what, folks?
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  Ed is about 12 and a half hours if I was driving down to Miami, because Florida is that big of a state, not like where I came from, New Jersey, that uh it took an hour and a half to get from one side from east to west.
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  Um in Florida, it's very, very different.
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  Not only that, the weather is different, the people are different, and that always amazes me because what works in South Florida often does not work in the panhandle, and it doesn't matter.
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  We are in the same state, but it's time for us to get together, and that's a problem that we have been having.
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  And one of those problems is I just wish Ed that President Trump would keep his mouth shut and not talk about people in the primary that he is endorsing because all he seems to be doing is endorsing the same people that we're trying to get rid of.
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  Okay, well, uh thank you for having me.
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  Um, and I'm actually not in Miami, I am in Durrell.
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  Uh, we live about half a mile from the entrance of the Trump National Durrell Golf Resort.
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  So we uh go over there every now and then.
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  Uh, not to play golf, but just to eat and and go to various events.
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  But what you were saying is right.
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  Uh Trump has been endorsing and has done this before.
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  He doesn't really know who he's endorsing.
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  For example, when the uh recently in Fort Worth, Texas, a state senate district that he won by 15 or 17 points in a special election, the Republican lost by about 13 points, and he didn't even know that he had endorsed someone there, and what's happening is that his local endorsements are being made by his chief of staff, Susie Wiles.
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  And Susie is a long-time political operator here in the state of Florida.
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  Uh, for some reason, she has a big dispute with uh Ronda Santis, so they're at odds with each other, and uh he's making the choices.
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  Trump is busy, you know, he's doing a great job.
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  I'm not I the economy is really humming, and I think this is an opportunity for everyone to jump into uh gainful employment and really uh do something to support themselves and their families.
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  Uh so Trump is responsible for all that, but he makes a lot of bad choices, uh, and especially when it comes to these local endorsements.
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  Now, part of that comes from the fact that I think Trump has real has decided and realized that everything depends on winning the Congress in the coming elections, and he's totally correct on that.
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  And so what he's done is he is supporting all the incumbents, just about.
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  So, for example, he has endorsed Maria Elvira Salazar, a congresswoman from South Florida, who's a total rhino.
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  And there are two other rhinos down here in South Florida, two other congressmen, and he's not, you know, there's there's no uh opposition to them.
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  He's endorsing many rhinos up and down in Florida.
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  So uh I think part of that is that he is, and he's he's letting his team know, uh let people know that he wants to endorse incumbents because he wants to win back the house.
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  In the Senate, I think he has a little more leeway.
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  For example, in Texas, he has not endorsed John Cornen, who is very likely to lose uh the primary uh next uh next month against uh attorney general Kent Paxton.
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  They may go to a runoff because Congressman Wesley Hunt is also in there, and it's a good thing that in Texas you have to win a primary with a majority, not just a plurality like you can do here in Florida.
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  But that's uh I think you're you're making a good good, you have a good concern.
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  You're making a good point that Trump is endorsing a lot of people that are really not his best friend who will betray him as soon as they have an opportunity.
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  Uh, for example, the National Republican Senatorial Committee is right now supporting not only uh in Texas John Cornen, who's a rhino, but in Alaska in the past, and I'm sure again this year they have supported uh Lisa Merkowski and she had last time I'm not sure that about this time, but last time she had a very good uh opponent.
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  Uh uh Kelly Schubaka, and she was very good, and she lost in the primary because Lisa had all this money, all this name recognition.
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  So I think Trump has to clean that up, but he's doing a great job otherwise, so I can't really complain too much.
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  I just think we have to, on our own, we have to come up with our own uh good uh mega candidates and take them on in the primaries.
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  Um in the general election, I always vote Republican.
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  I figure a rhino is better than a donkey, but the place to fight is in the primaries, and I don't think people understand how important the primaries really are, and uh candidates often win by 18, 19, 22 percent of the vote, and like Ed was saying, this is not a majority by any means, right?
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  And because Florida is so red, uh the winner of the primary usually goes on to be the winner of the general.
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  That is why the primary should have to be won with a majority, and that's what happens in Texas.
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  Texas is very Republican, and so in the primary is where the decision is made, and especially now with all the gerrymandering.
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  And so in Texas, you have to win a majority of the primary.
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  So there's a runoff between the top two vote getters.
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  They used to do that in Florida, but for some reason they stopped, and now you can win with a plurality, uh, which is not a good thing, but you know, the primaries are the place to fight in Miami Dade County in 2024.
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  There were the turnout during the primary was around 20, 22 percent.
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  Uh, the Republicans had 19% turnout, and then in the general election, it was 72%.
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  That's a huge difference.
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  Yes.
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  You know, people are missing the point.
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  Um, so that's one point.
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  You you also wanted uh talk to ask about me to talk about Pam Bondy.
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  Yes, uh Pam Bondy.
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  Yeah, she well, she's another one who was selected by uh Susie Wiles.
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  And I think you know, Trump is not very good at some things, and and picking uh secretary, you know.
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  Uh well, he's he's very good at some of his some of his cabinet is very good, but Bondy is a lightweight, uh, as well as uh let's say uh Noam, Christy Noam is another lightweight, and she's returning into a liability with her mishandling.
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  Yes, and enforcement.
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  But I don't think Trump is gonna change anybody before the
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  Midterms.
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  My sense from talking to people in the Trump team is that they want to hold things as they are and not because if you replace a cabinet member, you're kind of admitting that you made a mistake.
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  And I don't think he's going to make any say give any admissions until you uh after the midterms.
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  I think he thinks he can win.
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  He's gonna he's gonna go to win with with the team that he has.
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  Yeah, what I'm seeing though is that people, grassroots people, MAGA people are extremely upset that nobody's been arrested.
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  All we do is have a uh a meeting and a committee meeting, and that oh, this is awful, and you're terrible, and blah, blah, blah.
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  Well, what Trump is figuring, though, is that these people have nowhere else to go in the general election.
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  And he may be wrong because in Texas, we saw people stayed home.
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  That's what I'm afraid of.
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  Well, that you have a good point.
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  I think you have a good point.
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  Uh, I'm not I'm not gonna stay home, and I'm gonna urge everyone to turn out and vote at the primary and the general, but that's a real danger.
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  And I think it's a danger.
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  It's too late for him to fix it.
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  I don't think he has the the ability or the skill or the knowledge to fix it because he I don't think he can tell a rhino from a uh from a MAGA.
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  Uh, for example, his his daughter-in-law, surely with his consent, was a keynote speaker at the manager REC Gala dinner.
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  In fact, they called it the Trump Day dinner.
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  Usually with Republicans, it's Lincoln Day or Reagan Day.
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  This was Trump Day already.
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  They're they're really, you know, they wanted to show that they're real Trumpists, but they're really a bunch of rhinos.
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  These are the people that the RPOF put in after uh uh expelling some MAGA candidates who had been put in there.
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  And the reason was that the RPOF, uh the Florida Party is really corrupt.
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  They're bought and paid for by developers and other big donors in Tallahassee, and they didn't like the fact that the MAGA Republican executive committee in Manatee County was really opposed to to development.
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  That's the that's the big that's one of the biggest.
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  I think it's the biggest issue in Florida.
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  It's all this local opposition, very often from MAGA uh to uh unrestrained development.
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  And uh the developers, they have funded their their people in uh Tallahassee.
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  Uh the RPOF board, uh the the um uh Senate president, the House Speaker, and they do the bidding of the uh of the donors.
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  So that's where the battle is here in the state of Florida, but Pam Bondy's gonna stay in there.
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  I know she hasn't done her job.
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  I think Christy Gnome is going to stay in there.
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  I think they're both very likely to be replaced, uh, but it won't be until later.
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  Until after.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, that makes a lot of sense.
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  Um, there's been a lot of talk about the Georgia election, and people are saying, why is that important?
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  And we hear chain of custody and words like that.
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  And I don't think people understand what they mean.
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  And I know you're on the election integrity committee.
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  So maybe you could explain a little bit about the Georgia election and why it's important that we all take a look at it.
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  All right.
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  Well, the the problem, Georgia was won by Biden allegedly in um in 2020 by like 12,000 votes.
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  That is nothing.
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  And I knew that uh Governor Kemp and Secretary of State Raffensberger wanted to deliver the state for Biden and against Trump.
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  That's Georgia and Arizona were two states where the local rhinos hated Trump so much that they preferred to have Biden win than Trump win.
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  And the reason is that uh Kemp is kind of a he's kind of he's a crook.
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  He's taken money uh from Soros interests, he gave Rivian, the electric uh car manufacturer a very sweetheart deal, and he's kind of a crooked guy, and uh he wanted he delivered the state for for Biden, and in return for that, he got you know no prosecution.
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  Now, if you look at what happened, there were uh like 15,000 votes that should not have been counted because at 15, that's more than the margin of error.
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  So they were the the um the the images were incorrect, but in addition to that, there were 315,000 ballots that were cast without the proper paperwork, without the proper signatures, without the proper testimony, testification.
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  So that tells you 315 is way more than the 12,000 that Biden won by.
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  So that tells you that when Trump called Raffensburger and said, Look, you got to find these ballots.
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  He was right, Trump was right.
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  Raffenberger had let them slip in in order to beat Trump.
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  And so the Georgia election was you could say had was stolen.
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  I could tell that even before I knew this, because for example, they sent the the the Republic, the Democrat uh poll workers uh and uh Fulton County claimed that there was a water leak, and they sent all the Republican poll watchers away.
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  Now, when I'm a Republican poll watcher, I don't pay any attention to what they say.
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  I stick to my guns no matter what.
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  But when they do that, that and they then there was really no water leak, that tells you they want to do something that they don't want you to see doing.
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  That's like when in Philadelphia, they put uh cardboard over the the windows where they were counting ballots.
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  Uh that's like in in in Wisconsin, where they had private uh operators going in and running the election offices on behalf of the public servants that were supposed to be doing it.
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  So I knew, and then when you in in in Atlanta, Fulton County, when you see uh poll workers pulling ballots out of the box, uh out of from under their chairs, under their desks, and running them over into the uh ballot machine, you know they're cheating, and that was pretty clear.
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  So that's why in uh the Miami Independent, I've written that uh the elections in Georgia and also Maricopa County, Arizona, uh, were very dirty, and they were stolen in 2020.
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  I also I've been a poll watcher in Philadelphia.
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  That was Pennsylvania was stolen.
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  There were uh ballots were trucked in uh Wayne uh Wayne County, Detroit, Michigan's another place.
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  They had more ballots and votes, even today.
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  Uh Fulton County has more ballots cast than voters registered.
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  And I know that Milwaukee and Green Bay, Wisconsin were also uh crooked.
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  So that's five states there where the election was stolen in 2020.
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  And I think Trump is very set on getting the Save Act, which requires voter ID, very basic, through the Senate.
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  It's gonna require, it looks like uh uh a suspension of the filibuster, which I think is just necessary.
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  That's where we are.
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  Even Senator Mike Lee, who is a very conservative with a small C and usually defends the filibuster, says we gotta get rid of the filibuster.
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  And in any event, Trump has said he will do an executive order uh if if the uh statute doesn't go through.
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  But I think we need to do that.
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  I I think I just heard just before the show that uh Susan Collins has agreed to support the bill, so they have 50 votes with JD Vance.
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  It will be 51.
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  So if they get rid of the filibuster, which calls for 60 votes, yeah, and the filibuster is not underlying not in red uh in the constitution.
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  So it is something that can be gotten rid of on a tempt uh, you know, until they decide.
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  Uh it looks like the Save Act will pass, praise God.
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  But what this also tells you is that we have to do something about the rhinos that are opposing uh the Save Act, and I think there's two or three one is Mitch McConnell, but he's gonna be gone.
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  Uh, I don't think Murkowski was gonna you are correct.
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  Right.
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  So we she needs to be primaried.
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  In fact needs to support her opponent in the primary.
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  He's he has said that he's gonna support uh opponents in republic.
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  He's got to do that.
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  You can't agree more.
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  I know the the National Republican Senate campaign committee is giving her money.
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  That's how they work it.
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  They they're they're giving lots of money to Cornen, and they're giving it to Murkowski.
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  Uh then there is no money left over when it's needed, and then the candidates that need the money don't get it.
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  That's very, very sad.
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  They should stay out of the primaries.
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  Absolutely.
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  The last thing that I wanted to talk to you about is somebody that I was never a favor of Marco Rubio.
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  Uh he was turned me totally off.
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  I met him.
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  He was charming.
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  I was ready to vote for him.
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  I voted for him, and then he turned me off totally with a gang of eight, if you remember that people, yes, absolutely amnesty.
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  So I was very impressed, I have to say.
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  Marco has come a long way.
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  He has come a long way.
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  The thing you have to understand about Marco is that he is a very bright guy, you know, law school, and uh, but he is not a private sector business lawyer.
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  And so he has made a career in the in the public sector.
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  Uh and he's been very effective.
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  He's a good speaker, he gets the points out, he's not afraid.
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  He's an American patriot.
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  He he's grateful.
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  His family was able to come to the United States.
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  He came before the communist revolution.
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  His family did.
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  So he's very grateful, and he's a real patriot.
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  But he kind of he kind of uh follows along with the crowd.
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  And when he got to Congress uh in 2010, he fell in with McCain, uh, which was a mistake, and that's the gang of eight, and that was really a dumb thing.
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  He has I did an article on him in November after he was appointed before he was uh confirmed in November of 2024.
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  And what I told uh the folks in the Miami Independent is Marco Rubio has a strong, uh what I would call rhino-ish background.
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  Uh in 2023, he combined with Senator Tim Kane from Virginia, uh Hillary Clinton's VP candidate, so a very leftist uh Democrat to for uh to pass a bill that would prohibit any president, and I think they were thinking of Trump from leaving NATO without the approval of the Senate.
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  So that was uh aimed at Trump.
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  And yet when he got appointed, I think Trump appointed him because he won, he realized Trump's biggest issue is securing the border.
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  And part of securing the border is to take reassert the Monroe Doctrine so that these countries that are a platform for illegal drugs, people, arms, everything.
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  They are a platform in it uh just south of us, uh, have to be brought into line.
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  They have to be their governments have to be changed so that they comply and they're friendly to the United States.
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  And the first place he went to is Panama because China had contracted for to run both ends of the canal, and now uh the Supreme Court of Panama has ruled that those contracts are void and unconstitutional.
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  So he did that.
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  Venezuela, Venezuela was the next step.
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  Uh, and I think Cuba is going to be coming this year without any question.
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  And and so Marco was managing that part of Trump's policies.
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  He is the Tom Holman of foreign policy.
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  Tom Holman is the domestic policy guy for that.
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  And uh Marco is uh the guy for uh foreign policy for handling Central American countries.
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  Eventually we're gonna have to deal with Mexico.
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  Uh, but at least now we've dealt with Venezuela, Colombia will have a new president in uh by the summer.
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  There's presidential elections there, probably get a more conservative, certainly a more conservative guy, and Cuba is going to be, I think, gone uh this year.
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  So didn't Chile didn't Chile uh now a very conservative very conservative uh president.
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  And Argentina, of course, has a rock star, libertarian uh president, Malay, uh, Paraguay, Bolivia, all have conservative presidents.
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  So El Salvador, let's not forget El Salvador.
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  El Salvador, Honduras, Costa Rica, just elected a very conservative woman.
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  So uh they are underway.
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  Uh, Puerto Rico, there's a they have a conservative governor, and they just voted that uh against abortion.
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  So uh it the whole region is is going uh in the conservative direction, and that's what he was hired for.
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  Now, this is the that is what he did with the speech by telling uh Western Europe that they better get on the stick because America is changing with or without them.
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  And we're gonna protect Western civilization.
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  That's one of the uh criticisms that I saw is that uh he stood up for Western civilization, and uh he told Europe we're gonna defend it, whether you come with us or not.
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  So it's up to you.
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  So the ball is in Europe's court.
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  He was more polite than Vance, but he gave the same message, and I think it was very effective.
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  And I think the Europeans uh have to think about what you know what side do they want to be on.
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  If they have honest elections in Europe, a lot of those uh countries are gonna see different governments.
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  For example, in Germany, the Alliance for ADF, uh Alliance for Deutschland is a conservative party.
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  They don't have 20% of the of the vote in the national election, so they have to be reckoned with.
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  And I think, for example, in England, if there were a new election called, uh, you would see the reform party, and there's now another new party, conservative party.
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  So I think you'll see a lot more of that uh in England and in the rest of the of the Europe uh coming up, more conservative governments.
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  Well, that absolutely is what is needed, it's what is necessary, and it's finally working for the people, but only if the people participate.
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  Yep.
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  And if the people sit back and do nothing, you will get nothing, and we will lose our country, and we will lose that is unacceptable.
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  Look at New York.
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  We have a communist jihadist as mayor, and uh a lot of people didn't show up to vote.
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  They had like 30% turnout.
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  Well, yeah, now they have uh what eight feet of garbage.
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  Yep, the garbage is not picked, the snow is not shoveled, the garbage is not that's what New York is falling apart, and it's very sad to watch as a former New Yorker.
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  Yep.
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  Um, please tell everyone where they can find you and your political commentary, which is always fabulous to become involved with and have a good conversation with you.
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  Okay, thank you.
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  Uh I I write for the Miami Independent.
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  We're at WW.
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  Miami Independent.com.
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  Miami Independent.com.
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  And uh we have all sorts of good writers.
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  I'm not only a columnist on my own, I'm also an editor of a couple of other people, and I encourage anyone who has uh has an opinion and you're brave enough to put it in writing, uh, send it to me.
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  I'll be happy to publish.
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  We'll edit, we'll publish.
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  We might run it through um, we might run it through uh chat GPT, uh, but it won't change the sense of what you're saying.
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  We're just cleaning up the grammar and so on.
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  Uh but no, we're we're very active here at the Miami Independent.
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  We this year we have a new uh star columnist, uh Roger Stone is uh contributing to our uh publication.
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  So that's fantastic, and I must say I am also right there, and it is a wonderful paper uh with absolutely fantastic articles and very necessary because the one thing you can be assured of is it's the truth, and that is what is needed.
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  So thank you so much, Ed.
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  It is always wonderful to have you on, and we'll have you back again as we go to the next phase of what is going on in Tallahassee and will the Western world pay attention to Marco Rubio.
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  Welcome back.
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  This is Karen Schoen, and you're listening to the Prism of America's Education brought to you on the America Outlaud.news network.
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  Unfortunately, uh, I read what's going on in the ag industry and food service, and he don't know what to believe anymore.
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  So these people have no clue.
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  They have been lying to us for years and years and years.
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  And now when you start really investigating and looking at the bills that have been passed, you get to realize they don't care about you.
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  They don't care about us, they care about their donors.
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  And as John Hallman, our guest for this segment said it's donor dollars, right, John?
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  That is right.
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  So you have a fabulous website in defending rural Florida.
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  Before we get into the bills, I wanted to make one comment.
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  The weather has not been cooperative in Florida.
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  And after talking to some of the farmers in South Florida, they have lost a lot of crops due to the cold.
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  So unfortunately, we're going to be looking at escalating food prices.
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  And there is nothing that President Trump can do.
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  He cannot make wave his magic wand.
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  And I wish he could, but he can't, and change the weather.
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  Nobody can do that.
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  So we have to be prepared, be prepared.
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  If you see things on sale now that you may want later on, buy it, put it in the freezer.
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  So John has a fabulous website.
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  It's called Defending Rural and Florida.
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  And John has done investigating on some of the bills that the criminals in Tallahassee want to pass.
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  John, I'm going to let you, you've done the investigating.
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  I'm going to let you take the lead and tell us what bills we should be looking at.
• 34:15
  Okay.
• 34:16
  Well, thank you, Karen.
• 34:17
  But I first have to say that is great news about bacon.
• 34:21
  I know.
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  I love bacon too.
• 34:24
  Yeah.
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  So that's awesome news.
• 34:26
  But anyway, but yes, um, to the Florida legislature.
• 34:30
  So they have been busy this year filing bills to preempt local government, especially over uh growth management and development of residential areas.
• 34:42
  Uh and so there are two bills that I have found really bad.
• 34:47
  Uh and they've been moving through the legislature.
• 34:50
  And I'll explain why this is getting pretty almost unanimous support.
• 34:56
  Usually the one good thing that Democrats will do is they will always oppose anything that takes away local control.
• 35:02
  And they usually are pretty good about that.
• 35:04
  But um these bills have been moving through, and it's because there's some deceptive branding going on on what these bills actually do.
• 35:12
  Um, and I sent out an email uh alerted to this.
• 35:16
  If anybody wants to go to Defending Rural Florida, if you're on Facebook, you can see the post to take action.
• 35:22
  But let me talk talk to you about the two bills.
• 35:24
  One of them is SB354, sponsored by Senator Stan McLean, who has filed many bills on preemption of local government.
• 35:35
  But this particular bill is dangerous.
• 35:37
  And so it would create a new statewide land use category called Blue Ribbon Projects.
• 35:44
  Sounds nice, right?
• 35:45
  Blue ribbon projects.
• 35:47
  And so what this would do, it would be a development project.
• 35:51
  It would have to be at least 10,000 acres, could be more, but it has to be at least 10,000 acres.
• 35:58
  And the way they are trying to sell this to all of us that are trying to preserve our our agricultural lands, you know, conservation areas as well.
• 36:06
  Uh wetlands need it for flood control of the of the acreage minimal of 10,000 acres could be 100,000, 200,000.
• 36:14
  But 60% of the land must be called uh labeled reserve, quote unquote reserve.
• 36:21
  Uh, and they're they're selling this is like, yeah, we're gonna say that 60% of the land cannot be developed.
• 36:27
  But when you read the bill, RTB, read the bill, is you see that 60% of the land can be used, can be used for conservation.
• 36:35
  Yes, but it can also be used for parks, recreation facilities, utility sites, reservoir, lakes, and other supporting uses.
• 36:46
  So, you know, when you start saying this kind of this land can be recreation facilities, that's interesting because that could be a whole lot of things you could do with that supposed reserved area.
• 36:58
  I mean, you could put in pick a ball and tennis courts and resort style swimming pools and fitness centers and sports fields and just you know, you you basically can that opens up a lot now.
• 37:11
  What's funny is that Senator McLean heard my complaint about the, you know, that well, you could put a um a massive golf course in.
• 37:19
  So he did amend his bill to say no golf course, but he still left all the other recreational possibilities.
• 37:24
  So that that just means that that they could take that 60%, do all kinds of development.
• 37:30
  I mean, you know, in the sense of recreational development, pave over areas, parking lots, uh, they can dig out uh dredge out lakes and have a marina and for boating.
• 37:40
  Trying to sell this as preserving Florida's conservation lands is not true.
• 37:46
  That's part of it.
• 37:46
  Now the 40% that can be residential development, they will allow up to 12 units per gross acre.
• 37:54
  That's a lot a lot of development and you know, in that 40%.
• 38:01
  So they can put in a massive amount of people.
• 38:03
  The really bad part, Karen, is that what a uh landowner developer would do is they would put together the there's a criteria for what a to be qualified as a blue ribbon project.
• 38:16
  But you know, but there's the basics of it.
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  You can do up to 12 units per acre.
• 38:21
  That would be wouldn't even be run through the local government.
• 38:24
  It would go, they would apply it to the Department of Commerce, the Florida Department of Commerce, and once they approved it, you know, it's called administrative approval.
• 38:34
  Then the county is has to accept it.
• 38:37
  And this can be on land, currently land that's zoned anything, not just agriculture, it could be zoned anything.
• 38:42
  They don't care.
• 38:43
  John, what what about those big comprehensive plans that we the people spent all this time on the zoning committees?
• 38:50
  Exactly.
• 38:51
  Talking about density and um, you know, what can be built there and what we want to see our community look like.
• 38:58
  I mean, yeah, exactly, Karen.
• 39:00
  So many counties are now trying to preserve oral areas, right?
• 39:04
  I mean, actually, really preserve them, you know.
• 39:06
  Yes.
• 39:07
  As we're losing them.
• 39:09
  Right.
• 39:09
  So this bill states that there is no need for a comprehensive plan amendment.
• 39:14
  Uh, there's no need for rezoning, there's no public hearing, uh, and no vote by your elected local governing board.
• 39:21
  So it basically gets approved by the state, and then the county officials need to step out of the way and they start development.
• 39:28
  So um, this is a really dangerous bill that they that they're trying to deceive the public like oh, I listen.
• 39:36
  Six, listen, 60% of the land will be in reserve, won't be developed, but wait a minute, read the bill, you know.
• 39:43
  Yeah.
• 39:43
  Yeah, actually, read the bill.
• 39:45
  That's the problem.
• 39:46
  But right, and that's the problem.
• 39:47
  And you know, and that's the problem, Karen, with so many legislators who might tend to uh support or or oppose anything that would take away local government control.
• 39:57
  But they're, you know, they're hearing, well.
• 40:00
  You know, they're going to preserve 60% and conservation.
• 40:03
  Well, no, not necessarily.
• 40:04
  And that only 40% can be developed.
• 40:06
  Well, it can be developed up to 12 units per acre.
• 40:09
  That's really putting in a lot of people.
• 40:12
  And again, we have the county needs to know whether what's that going to do to the infrastructure?
• 40:18
  I know.
• 40:18
  I was just going to ask you.
• 40:19
  They don't take into consideration.
• 40:22
  How about the roads?
• 40:23
  How about the sewers?
• 40:24
  How about electrical grids?
• 40:27
  Yeah.
• 40:28
  Yeah.
• 40:28
  The traffic will get worse.
• 40:30
  And you know, as we're running our aquifers are running out of water, you know, we're again, we're going to pack a lot of people in that are going to be, you know, using, you know, a lot of water for their homes.
• 40:40
  And you're talking about 12 units, you know, the average is like two people or at least two to three people per unit plus a couple of cars.
• 40:47
  I mean, you're you're packing in a tremendous development in that is still going to do damage to the infrastructure.
• 40:54
  Um, and still going to cause strains on infrastructure, and it's gonna cause uh a lot of problems.
• 41:00
  So this is this is a bad bill because we're talking about you take a hundred thousand acres, you could put a massive development in there, and it you know, and again, have all this nice recreational areas and pickleball courts and very little conservation.
• 41:14
  So that's a really bad bill.
• 41:16
  There's another bill, too.
• 41:18
  Uh to add insult to injury have another one, and they never stop, do they?
• 41:26
  No, no, they really went wild this year.
• 41:28
  I mean, there's a lot of other bills.
• 41:30
  Uh I'm I'm really just trying.
• 41:32
  I there's so many that I'm focused on the two worst right now, and trying to stop them.
• 41:37
  And there's another bill, SB 686 by our good friend Senator Stan McLean again.
• 41:43
  It's called agricultural enclaves.
• 41:46
  What a nice sounding.
• 41:48
  Yeah, right.
• 41:49
  Yeah.
• 41:49
  So he tried to run this bill last year, and and some I worked with so many people we did stop it.
• 41:55
  So he's brought it back again, again, using some deceptive uh language to make you think, oh, there's some local control here, don't worry.
• 42:03
  So, but yeah, the the what this bill would allow is land that is zoned agricultural, and it's a actually a working farmer ranch, you know, it is actually agricultural property.
• 42:15
  Um, and what it would do is it would allow them, the landowner working, you know, with a developer is that they could apply to be an agricultural enclave.
• 42:26
  Now there is current statute right now, Karen that says you know, it it describes what can what agricultural property could be called an enclave, and that would be if the if the farmer, the ranch is surrounded by some development, which is happening, right?
• 42:41
  The development has moved out and out, and it's starting to surround some of these agricultural lands.
• 42:47
  So if you're surrounded by agricultural, uh, I'm sorry, by residential land, you then under current statutes, you could uh go to the county and try to get a comp to change it to zone to uh residential zoning.
• 43:02
  Uh, but the under current law, the county can reject it, you know, and say no.
• 43:07
  Uh, there'd be there'd be a public hearing.
• 43:09
  Um, and that's the way it is.
• 43:11
  So, what this bill would do, the the landowner could try to apply under the that criteria.
• 43:17
  You've owned it for five years, you're an actually working farmer ranch, uh, and you're surrounded by some development by residential development.
• 43:24
  You you you can then go to the certified as an agricultural enclave under this bill.
• 43:30
  Now you'll see it says you know, about a public hearing, but here's the here's the deal.
• 43:36
  That hearing is only to determine whether that property meets that criteria.
• 43:42
  So it's whether, you know, it and and so here's the thing.
• 43:45
  The the people wouldn't be able to say, I don't want development.
• 43:48
  That's not what the hearing would be about.
• 43:50
  It's only does this property under the state guidelines qualify as an agricultural enclave.
• 43:57
  And as I, you know, I've told some people, I said, look, you know, if you look at the statute, it sets the criteria.
• 44:02
  So you either are you aren't, you know, if you've owned it for five years, you're a working farmer ranch, and you're surrounded by development, then yeah, you are an agricultural enclave, but this bypasses all the local steps, and what it would do is that it would go um, so the the public hearing to only be determined does this property fit that criteria again, it either does or doesn't.
• 44:25
  And then it does say that the county board of commissioners can deny it, but they're going to have to go to the state and prove why they think it's not an agricultural enclave.
• 44:36
  Again, we're just we're just trying to determine if it's an agricultural enclave, and what this bill allows is to bypass everything, and that would again this the local governments couldn't do anything, and then if they do try to deny it, they the bill allows for an immediate going to the court for what's called a writ of satory with the circuit court, and again, the certain the judges only going to determine like are you an agricultural enclave?
• 45:00
  And you go, Yes, you do seem to meet that five years working farmer ranch surrounded by development.
• 45:06
  So yes, you are, and then uh the county is then forced to allow the development.
• 45:12
  So you know, this is you're damned if you do, and you damned if you don't, right, right.
• 45:17
  So, you know, but really gets me is that they're they're trying to sell this is like look, you know, there's some local control, you know, there's a public hearing, but again, read the bill, RTB, read the bill, and you see, like, oh, okay, it don't it's only to whether this actually, you know, actually qualifies under current statute is agricultural enclave.
• 45:36
  That's it.
• 45:37
  That's the only thing, and it you know, again, it either is or isn't right.
• 45:40
  I mean, you know, there's no, you know, either you've owned it for five years, and you've you run a uh an uh agricultural operation and you have some development around you.
• 45:49
  That's it.
• 45:49
  So that affects your taxes tremendously.
• 45:53
  Oh, absolutely.
• 45:54
  Again, we're gonna just start fast tracking more and more development and taking away any local decision making.
• 46:01
  And again, the people in this public hearing cannot argue that we don't need more development, right?
• 46:06
  They can't argue that you the only thing the public would be allowed to say is like, well, we've looked at this and we don't think he's owned it for five years.
• 46:13
  We don't think he had an act.
• 46:14
  That's the only thing you could argue, and that becomes very hard to argue.
• 46:17
  Yeah, how does that make any sense?
• 46:20
  Right.
• 46:20
  I asked, I asked my county commissioners, and this is more and more.
• 46:24
  We're seeing this.
• 46:26
  Um, I I remember way back when we were studying Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030, and they said that their goal is to eliminate the ability of local uh commissioners to make decisions regarding zoning and actually to take away all of their quote power, and this is more and more we're seeing bills like this that say the state is the decision maker, not you that lives in that community.
• 46:57
  So I asked, you know, why would somebody come and move to a rural community?
• 47:03
  Well, you move there because you want the peace and quiet, you want the vast amount of land, and you want an acre or two or three or whatever, and you don't want to be on top of your neighbor, and you don't want to be next to a high rise, and most people do that because they've left the areas that are like that.
• 47:22
  Well, I I did Karen.
• 47:23
  I, you know, as you know, I live in Madison County now, and I left Central Florida because it was just you know, every acre was being paved over.
• 47:31
  So I moved up to Madison, which is a small rural county and what's called the Big Bend area, where you know, we're just east of uh of Tallahassee and Leon County, and then there's Jefferson County and then Madison and Madison County is like you said, I I've got some acreage, and my neighbors have acreage, and we all love it, it's quiet, we're not on top of each other, and we don't want to see that change, you know.
• 47:54
  And these bills would you know, upend that and really destroy Madison County as well as many other counties.
• 48:01
  Well, we're having the same experience here in uh Jackson County.
• 48:07
  Um, they are every it it looks like every piece of land, especially that owned by a developer.
• 48:14
  The developer is saying, Oh, well, I think I have to make a change to the comprehensive plan zoning density, all of those things, and in the middle of uh the county, you'll get uh uh a thousand unit um area, and then I ask well to the commissioners, and they say, Well, this is part of the city, they have to make the decision, not the county.
• 48:41
  How do you get to that enclave?
• 48:43
  You have to go through county streets, you have to use county water, you have to use things from the county, but nobody counts that that destroys our roads, our infrastructure, our water service, our grid.
• 48:57
  They don't care, they don't care.
• 48:59
  It's all about the donor dollars.
• 49:01
  You're absolutely right.
• 49:03
  It really is because they you know, it's been proven that you know, the argument is well, look, you know, it's it's it's an economic boom for the counties, you know, a piece of property sitting vacant doesn't bring in much property tax, but you put a home on it, and now all of a sudden it does bring in property tax.
• 49:17
  But once you start moving people in, you know, then you start straining the infrastructure and the cost, you know, go up.
• 49:24
  And what we've seen now and studies done through counties of Florida is that the more development, the more more expensive and the more strained the infrastructures become, and everybody else, you know, suffers.
• 49:35
  So, you know, they we there just has to be some we have to leave it to the local governments, they're on the ground, they're there in that area, and the people this is so important that we keep these public hearings.
• 49:47
  Uh oh, definitely, and it's also so important that the people go to the public hearings.
• 49:53
  Absolutely.
• 49:53
  I mean, that's and they are they are carrying it around the state.
• 49:58
  So me, I get so many people.
• 50:00
  calling me and saying yeah we went to the public hearing and that's great they're starting to shut down some of these uh excessive uh developments uh and that's what's got the developers nervous you know it's not so much that they that they want to preempt the the local government they do but uh what they want to do is they're really trying to stop the public from speaking this is really about public speaking this is their main concern because they know that people throughout Florida are fed up and they're showing up and they're going oh no we can't have that you know so because when the people show up that puts pressure on your your elected county commissioners right and they're gonna start yeah it's going to get their attention so so many counties are starting to reject developments and again that's why they're going okay how do we shut up the public and stop this pressure that's being put on these county commissioners that we thought we we had on our side so you know and so that's why they're going to the state now going create these preemptions stop the public input right and then it's really sad folks when you go to these public hearings and the developers are there ask them where they live ask them how they're living right because they don't live in in your community they may own a piece of land because they bought it 20 30 years ago or whatever or even yesterday it doesn't matter but they don't care about where you live they don't care about leaving the community after when it's done do you think you're going to find them do you think that if there's a problem that you're going to be able to say oh Mr.
• 51:31
  Developer knock knock Mr.
• 51:33
  Developer no that's not going to happen.
• 51:35
  They're not there they're gone they're done a lot of them don't even live anywhere in the state of Florida that's also true you're right you're right so start asking the people that are doing this what was your motivation for living here and they will give you we don't live there they'll and then when you talk to the county commissioners a lot of them will say well the League of Counties or the association of counties hasn't made a ruling yet excuse me I didn't vote for the association of counties I voted for you how are you going to let this happen what are you going to do to stop it if we don't hold our elected officials accountable then what's the point of having yeah I mean why I I keep wondering like I'm I'm waiting for the legislature to actually uh end county commissioners you know because yeah that's yes I think that's gonna happen eventually because that's the goal uh it seems to be so it does I would like to say too Karen that uh the action that everybody could take on these two bills yes please yeah so right now the SB354s and SB686 so you have the blue ribbons project and the agricultural enclaves bill have now passed uh the two of the three committees and they're now sitting in the Senate rules committee they haven't been agended yet in the rules committee but that would be the final stop before going to the floor for a final vote so what I'm asking everybody to do is to call an email the rules chair which is Senator Kathleen Pastadomo and urge her not to hear these bills if she she could actually be the person that can kill the bills because she can refuse to hear them she's the one that decides which bills get put on to the rules agenda by not bringing these to the rules committee on a on an agenda and we're running out of time there's only probably there's only a couple of weeks left weeks well a couple of weeks of the committee meetings there's um with this week and three more uh well in the session but uh the important thing is to kill these bills in committee before they even get to the floor so so in my email you know I you know I gave uh uh Senator Pasadomo's email address and her phone number there at the Capitol okay and I will put that in the newsletter and uh that information in the newsletter and if you don't get the newsletter go to Karen Schoen dot substack dot com sign up for it it's free and it has a lot of information we have to make calls we can't blame somebody else if we don't take charge ourselves and we pay we got one bill that was uh really awful the farm bill we got them to take out several of the sections that were totally detrimental to we the people and stifled free speech because we called that was the key there were over 10 00 phone calls and emails they listen when you start in mass and you start calling and others call they listen why because you have the power of the vote and also too Karen I'd like to add on that particular issue that bill is that we have to stay vigilant through the end of session but here's the problem uh Senate president Ben Albritton said they may try to bring it back.
• 54:52
  Oh gosh so we have to stay we're gonna have to stay on top of that absolutely but but you're absolutely right the fact that so many people uh spoke out against that uh basically taking away you know first amendment right you know so that it did work right but we have to stay vigilant uh that's that's a tough thing like for me tracking all these bills Karen you know it's just it's it's it's a nightmare in a way because you kill one bill then they tried to take that language you know from that bill and put it into another sneak it into the another bill you know towards the end of session so I would just say yeah everybody needs to stay pay attention um and I'll let you know if I hear something of any attempt to to bring back that and that ag bill and that thank you thank you tell John tell everyone where they can find you in your website yeah so the website is Defending Rural Florida dot org great folks you can go there and check out the bills that John is talking about and please share the information remember information that you don't share it doesn't mean anything you have to get not you have to get it out you have to tell your friends and we have to act now is the time to act folks uh you got a lot of homework this week make sure you hit those phones hit those emails and and act help save Florida it's up to us this is Karen Schoen you've been listening to the Prism of America's education brought to you on the America Outloud dot news network and I will see you again next week but I'll always been proud and friend on America Doctrine I'm America is America is my small