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Hour Two | Dr. Etheredge Joins, Wallen Wednesday & Tyler Shough Talk · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
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  Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied. Off the Bench,
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raising
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  Speaker 1: Caine Studio.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in our number two of O
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  Speaker 4: Here on this Wednesday morning, Jake Flynn, Aldretete all here
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  Speaker 4: in studio. Of course it's Wednesday at eight in the morning,
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  Speaker 4: so it's going to be doctor Stephen Etheridge time who
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  Speaker 4: joined us every single week. Doc, we always appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: I hope you're doing well, doing great. How about y'all strong.
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  Speaker 3: Too, quite strong, kind of like Twin's portfolio. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I can hear this week, Doc, So we're doing great.
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  Speaker 3: Both ears all good things I do that.
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  Speaker 4: I do appreciate that. When Doc came in to ask
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  Speaker 4: you about that, he asked you and you go.
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  Speaker 3: Huh, I say say it to my gut, Air like, wait,
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  Speaker 3: can you hear? Did you get that fixed?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say I can hear, great, but I can.
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  Speaker 4: Hear okay, fair enough, fair enough A lot to get
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  Speaker 4: to with, Doc. We might as well go ahead and
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  Speaker 4: rip the band aid off because I had somebody that
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  Speaker 4: was very popular in sports. Kyle Busch, forty one years old,
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  Speaker 4: did pass away this last week, and at first it
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  Speaker 4: was kind of like, okay, hold up, what happened was it?
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  Speaker 4: You know, you start thinking about things that come out
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  Speaker 4: of nowhere and things that kind of just you know,
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  Speaker 4: those things where you just didn't wake up, and it's like, man,
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  Speaker 4: that's forty one years in an athlete and somebody that
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  Speaker 4: you know, like NASCAR takes care of their bodies, and
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  Speaker 4: everybody got their own personal you know, person that kind
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  Speaker 4: of keeps up with their health and YadA YadA, and
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  Speaker 4: it's like you're just trying to figure out what it
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  Speaker 4: is and what happened. And then once you find out
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  Speaker 4: doc kind of what happened, like it's even more scary
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  Speaker 4: because very easily that could have happened to any of
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  Speaker 4: us as far as you know, like you know, feeling
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  Speaker 4: a someting type of way, and then be like, ah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's they'll be okay.
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  Speaker 4: And I was telling the story twenty fourteen, my wife
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  Speaker 4: got kidney stones and then all of a sudden, we
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  Speaker 4: go to the hospital.
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  Speaker 3: She's got pneumonia, and then that pneumonia she.
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  Speaker 4: Turned septic and it was like she was in the
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  Speaker 4: hospital for like four days and it got real scary,
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  Speaker 4: real quick. It's like something that you know, you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: kidney stones. Everybody, you know they suck, but everybody, it's
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  Speaker 4: kidney stones. You just go to you know, and you
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  Speaker 4: figure out a plan and and it almost.
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  Speaker 3: Was too late. And it just it can happen like that,
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  Speaker 3: It can happen quickly.
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  Speaker 5: And and you know, these cases are the ones that
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  Speaker 5: are always so sad. You know, it's a it's it's
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  Speaker 5: not what you expect. It's not it's not the norm.
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  Speaker 5: And I've heard y'all talking about earlier, you know that
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  Speaker 5: I think I would agree the ninety nine point nine
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  Speaker 5: nine nine percent of the time, this is not what's
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  Speaker 5: going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: But there are some some strange situations out there there.
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  Speaker 5: There's maybe occasionally going to be some kind of predisposing
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  Speaker 5: risk factors in the patients.
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  Speaker 3: But a lot of times these things are just.
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  Speaker 5: Really fluky, uh, you know, and and and and the
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  Speaker 5: case with Kyle Busch, you know, the the I think
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  Speaker 5: with the official report is that he had an ammonia
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  Speaker 5: with sepsis, and and you know, sepsis is a serious
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  Speaker 5: condition sepsis is when the basically back to you infection
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  Speaker 5: gets in your blood. When that happens, you know, the
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  Speaker 5: mortality rate, depending on which numbers you look at, anywhere
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  Speaker 5: from twenty five to forty percent. Right, you know those
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  Speaker 5: are not small numbers, you know, And we've done a
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  Speaker 5: lot better job in the hospital. I will say about
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  Speaker 5: about how you manage that. There's there's what are called
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  Speaker 5: sepsist protocols. Because it's a serious condition. You've got to
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  Speaker 5: treat it quickly, you gotta treat it rapidly. You got
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  Speaker 5: to get on board with with the plan right out
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  Speaker 5: of the gate. So you have to have a very
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  Speaker 5: high level of suspicion. And in his case, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it sounds like you've been stick a couple of weeks prior,
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  Speaker 5: probably had some kind of a viral infection that started
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  Speaker 5: this off. And that's a lot of times in the young,
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  Speaker 5: healthy population. What you see is you get sick, you
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  Speaker 5: get a virus, you know, flu, something else, something that
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  Speaker 5: typically you're going to feel better. You might feel lousy
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  Speaker 5: for a week or so, you're going to get better,
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  Speaker 5: and then for whatever reason, it makes you more susceptible
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  Speaker 5: to this secondary infection. You get in pneumonia, and probably
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  Speaker 5: in his case, i'd assume a very aggressive organism, you know,
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  Speaker 5: something like a staphlococula like WITHMRSA for example, is one
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  Speaker 5: that we see sometimes post viral, So you have a virus,
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  Speaker 5: you're getting better, and then you get a lot more sick,
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  Speaker 5: and then it becomes sepsis, and then a lot of times,
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  Speaker 5: you know, even with sepsist it's it's really your own
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  Speaker 5: immune system. There's there's a condition called ARDS, which is
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  Speaker 5: a cute respiratory distress zone syndrome that's kind of tied
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  Speaker 5: in with all these things where your lungs just literally
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  Speaker 5: become hyper inflamed because your autoimmune response, your immune response
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  Speaker 5: is too aggressive, and you get fluid in your lungs
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  Speaker 5: and you get inflamation in your lungs and it becomes
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  Speaker 5: difficult de breeze.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe he had a component of that.
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  Speaker 5: You know, sometimes it makes you more susceptible to things
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  Speaker 5: like pulmonary embolisms and things of that nature.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I don't know all the details here.
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  Speaker 5: We kind of got the very small report, but I
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  Speaker 5: think the takeaway is if you're sick, you know, on
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  Speaker 5: the one hand, you don't have to say overreact on
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  Speaker 5: want people out there to freak out every time you
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  Speaker 5: get a sniffle. But for me, the thing I always
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  Speaker 5: worry about is if somebody's sick, especially if they seem
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  Speaker 5: to be getting better and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 5: get a lot worse. Yes, that for me, I think
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  Speaker 5: is probably the big that these are the times you
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  Speaker 5: see these autoimmune things. It's not usually the first few days.
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  Speaker 5: It's a week or two later, kind of like in
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  Speaker 5: this case, you know, And I think, and again, that's
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  Speaker 5: not always going to be too soli. So I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to scare everbody out there who gets sick, because
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  Speaker 5: sometimes you get sick, and you know what, you get
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  Speaker 5: sick again, and it's not necessarily going to be one
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  Speaker 5: of these these you know, pneumonia or sepsis or urds
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  Speaker 5: or you know. It kind of hits close to home.
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  Speaker 5: We had a guy that was, you know, my quarterback
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  Speaker 5: in high school who ended up playing at Florida State
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  Speaker 5: with me. He was a Marcus houtson who he was
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  Speaker 5: a year ahead of, and he got a condition two
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  Speaker 5: years ago called it's hard for me to say there's
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  Speaker 5: name as a medical it's hemo phagocitic lympho histiocytosis, which yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know, flows off the tongue easily. But it's an
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  Speaker 5: autoimmune condition, very rare, very rare, but a very similar situation.
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  Speaker 3: He passed away from it.
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  Speaker 5: This is a guy, you know, state champion of our
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  Speaker 5: high school team played, came in for Winki after Wink
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  Speaker 5: he got injured. Beat Florida in ninety eight, big big
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  Speaker 5: game there, and then you know, young healthy guy kind
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  Speaker 5: of you know, he was in his mid forties and
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  Speaker 5: the same type of thing.
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  Speaker 3: And these things happen.
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  Speaker 6: Doc When like I hear people talk about autoimmune auto
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  Speaker 6: i mune audio, we hear that term a lot. What
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  Speaker 6: does autoimmune really mean?
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  Speaker 5: So, your immune system is designed to fight infection. That's
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  Speaker 5: what the immune system does, and most of the times
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  Speaker 5: does a very good job. Sometimes, either because of some
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  Speaker 5: pre existing genetic condition that you have, maybe because of
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  Speaker 5: some other medical condition, Sometimes something as simple as a virus,
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  Speaker 5: your body starts to attack itself in some way shape
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  Speaker 5: or becomes overly aggressive. Even some of the things you
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  Speaker 5: see a lot of the worst symptoms you see when
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  Speaker 5: you have just the flu is your own immune response.
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  Speaker 3: You know that.
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  Speaker 5: So so when people have a hard time breathing, you
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  Speaker 5: get chest pain. There's a condition called costo chondritis where
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  Speaker 5: you get inflammation of the cartilage. That's an autoimmune condition
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  Speaker 5: where for whatever reason, your immune system overreacts and then
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  Speaker 5: starts to attack either some or multiple parts of your body.
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  Speaker 3: And that's that's what causes sepsis. Sepsis is not usually.
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  Speaker 5: The bacteria itself, it's your immune reaction to that bacteria.
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  Speaker 5: So it's it's it's it. You know, it's a serious
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  Speaker 5: condition in some scenarios. Other times it's something that people
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  Speaker 5: live with their whole life. They have some kind of
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  Speaker 5: a you know, something like lupus, which is a condition
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  Speaker 5: where your body attacks or in things or things like
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  Speaker 5: that your immune system just doesn't respond the way that
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  Speaker 5: it should.
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  Speaker 4: Man, it's really scary of the last couple of weeks
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  Speaker 4: and just Kyle Busch and him passing away. Stephen Garcia,
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  Speaker 4: I texted you doc about this former South Carolina quarterback
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  Speaker 4: stage four cancer. Didn't didn't think anything and did started
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  Speaker 4: to not feel well and you know, put it off
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  Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks, but goes in and he's
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  Speaker 4: got stage four colon cancer and it's just like and
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  Speaker 4: I'm the worst at being just a meathead and I'm
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  Speaker 4: not going to go in and I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: do that. And na, man, we'll get to that later.
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  Speaker 3: I'll beat it. I'll feel better.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, you know, you know, you don't know, like
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  Speaker 4: if you go in, does it does it save your life?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it does, maybe it can.
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  Speaker 4: And going and getting it checked out, it's like it's
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  Speaker 4: a pretty good reminder.
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  Speaker 3: And I know, for me, scared me.
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  Speaker 4: Like somebody that's younger than me that I played against
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  Speaker 4: in college is going through stage four cancer right now
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  Speaker 4: and didn't even know he had until he just like
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  Speaker 4: finally his wife, I think like kind of made.
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  Speaker 3: Him go in.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's it's you know, the cancer screenings have changed
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  Speaker 5: that recently. The recommendations even forgetting your coldon oscby went
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  Speaker 5: from fifty to forty five. Ye you know, you tell
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  Speaker 5: people get your colonoscy at age fifteen. Out's forty five
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  Speaker 5: and in some situations probably should be younger. If you
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  Speaker 5: have a family history of colon cancer, you know, you
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  Speaker 5: need to talk to your doctor because and I don't
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  Speaker 5: know what his his his background was prior to that,
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  Speaker 5: but maybe there was a family history. You know, you're
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  Speaker 5: seeing more of these cases. You know, you know, there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot of theories for why we're seeing especially colon
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  Speaker 5: cancer younger. You know, whether it's stuff in the environment,
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  Speaker 5: stuff in our food stuff and whatever.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to do the deep dive there, but
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  Speaker 5: there's there. It's definitely clear that it's it's happening younger. Well,
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  Speaker 5: that's you know, that's that's about the black Panther. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: that was you know, yeah, I mean that's that's that's
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  Speaker 5: you know, you have the superhero there and it's if
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  Speaker 5: you got them and and you know a guy that looks,
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  Speaker 5: you know, just young and healthy and vigorous, and ye,
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  Speaker 5: that's that was his cause of death. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: these things happen, all right, very morbid, I know, great.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean it has.
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  Speaker 4: But seriously, though, like I mean, we have obviously we
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  Speaker 4: have a large male audience, and oftentimes that's who's the
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  Speaker 4: most hard headed. And again I'm raising my hand the
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  Speaker 4: highest because I am the most hard headed when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to you not feeling great and just trying to
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  Speaker 4: beat it mentally and trying not to go get it
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  Speaker 4: checked up on. But like now, these last two cases,
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  Speaker 4: it's like, man, hey Bud, you got five kids.
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  Speaker 3: And hey we're on the other side of forty two.
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  Speaker 3: You're not quite there yet. I'm in forty. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: into my forty you are less than a month.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you do. You got to pay attention to
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  Speaker 2: your bodies.
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  Speaker 6: You got to pay attention to your symptoms and make
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  Speaker 6: sure you're not out there trying to be a meathead,
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  Speaker 6: like like sometimes Jane and I are going to be
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  Speaker 6: and just trying to say I am just gonna beat it.
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  Speaker 6: In my mind, you can probably beat it a decent
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  Speaker 6: amount of things, but when it comes to your body,
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  Speaker 6: especially at a certain age, definitely don't ignore anything. Don't
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  Speaker 6: ignore the symptoms. You can't always do it by yourself. Doc,
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  Speaker 6: let's turn into a little bit lighter, lighter conversation here. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: So summer programs are getting ready to start. So you
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  Speaker 6: got everybody gone through spring. I'm assuming a lot of
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  Speaker 6: the players have some time off where you got to
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  Speaker 6: go stay work out. But what is your kind of
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  Speaker 6: role throughout the summer. I mean I would assume that
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  Speaker 6: they do. I mean, obviously the job there for the
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  Speaker 6: strength and conditioning staff, the training staff is to keep
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  Speaker 6: everybody as healthy as tiptop shape as you can. But
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  Speaker 6: things do occur, Like what are some of the main
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  Speaker 6: things from the football team that you kind of see
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  Speaker 6: throughout the summer.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, summer is hopefully a chance to get healthy.
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  Speaker 5: For one, So we got guys that have injuries that
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  Speaker 5: are rehabbing, you know, from spring, even from the fall.
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  Speaker 5: You know, guys that have surgeries and things like that.
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  Speaker 5: So part of summer is let's rehab those guys. Part
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  Speaker 5: of summer is doing our physicals. We do an annual physical.
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  Speaker 5: Guys get their physicals every year, and especially for the
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  Speaker 5: incoming athletes. In fact, we had last night up on campus.
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  Speaker 5: We had some of the new incoming freshmen, the ones
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  Speaker 5: who didn't report early. They're they're here now, and so
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  Speaker 5: we did some of the physicals on those guys last night.
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  Speaker 5: And just a side notes, saw a coach O in
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  Speaker 5: the building last night. Yeah, great to see him back
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  Speaker 5: up there. Let's go, you know when we're talking about
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  Speaker 5: that the other day. But just feels right. But but
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  Speaker 5: but you know, we're so we're doing a lot of physicals,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of education. We do a lot of different
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  Speaker 5: educational things like I get with each the teams on campus.
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  Speaker 5: We talk about things like catastrophic injuries and why we
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  Speaker 5: do certain things to do in medicine. You know, why
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  Speaker 5: has heat stroke such an important thing? How do we
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  Speaker 5: handle that? We talk about you know, talking about hey,
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  Speaker 5: reporting your medical conditions, telling them what the warning signs are,
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  Speaker 5: more serious things. So you know, I'll have you know,
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  Speaker 5: powerpoints and lecturers that will.
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  Speaker 3: Do certain days.
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  Speaker 5: They're up there with each the individual teams and coaching
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  Speaker 5: staff and administration and everybody so that they're aware.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a lot of that type of stuff. You know.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, yeah, they're doing the strength and conditioning stuff, they're
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  Speaker 5: doing the off season workouts, and unfortunately, injuries they are
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  Speaker 5: happen to you know, using more soft tissue type stuff.
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  Speaker 5: So it's not hopefully going to be anything that's going
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  Speaker 5: to be major, but there's always something. And then even
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  Speaker 5: getting sick. We were talking about illness, and that doesn't
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  Speaker 5: stop either.
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  Speaker 6: I do want to ask something just for our listeners
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  Speaker 6: out there that have children that will be playing football
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  Speaker 6: this year and going into training camps, maybe for the
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  Speaker 6: first time, maybe they're playing tackle, whatever it is, and
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  Speaker 6: you know, at some point they are going to be outside.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I know it's easy.
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  Speaker 3: To just send them to drink my high dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they're going to hydra. No, I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 6: I'm asking you, like, where is it important, especially for
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  Speaker 6: football players that have to go into a training camp
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  Speaker 6: of any age, to spend a lot of their time
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  Speaker 6: training outside leading up to that point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really important.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
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  Speaker 5: We call it a climatization, so so basically, a you
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  Speaker 5: don't want to go from doing nothing outside to doing
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  Speaker 5: full workouts everything in the middle of the day. But
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  Speaker 5: but your body has to adjust, especially in a place
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  Speaker 5: like Louisiana, you have to adjust.
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  Speaker 3: You have to get used to this climate. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: happen overnight. You know.
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  Speaker 5: I think about the first day that I go out
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  Speaker 5: and it's eighty five and I'm sweating like crazy. And
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  Speaker 5: then you know, a month later, I would I would
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  Speaker 5: kill for a day that's eighty five. It feels like
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  Speaker 5: like winter. You know, your body does adjust, your body
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  Speaker 5: does change, and especially with athletes. So I think, A, yes,
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  Speaker 5: it's important to do it, especially if you're playing an
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  Speaker 5: outdoor sport like football.
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  Speaker 3: But also remember you got to do it gradually. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we we there's NCAA.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they have recommendations or requirements that we do
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  Speaker 5: in a climatization period for reasons. You know, usually it's
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  Speaker 5: about a ten to fourteen day period. So that's why,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the first day of camp, you're not out
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  Speaker 5: there doing three hours in full pads anymore. You're going
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  Speaker 5: lighter and you know, and I think that there's a
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  Speaker 5: medical reason for that.
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  Speaker 3: MafA did MafA, I kind of like getting callous myself.
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  Speaker 3: There's there's something we've talked about that.
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  Speaker 5: And look, I'm not completely against that mindset either.
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  Speaker 3: I think my head mentality still goes that way as well.
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  Speaker 5: But also we got to be safe, so you got
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  Speaker 5: to find that balance for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to be safe too, like this time
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  Speaker 4: of year and not just football, but thinking about like
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  Speaker 4: in baseball. Mm hm, I guess it's funny like we
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  Speaker 4: played two weekends to go whatever, and you know what
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  Speaker 4: you did at the beginning of the year, Like as
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: far as your catcher, you go out there, you can
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: catch five innings or whatever. It's like all of a sudden,
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: you're catching two innings. He takes the helmet off and
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: it's drenched French. It's just like looks like you went
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: and jumped in a swimming pool with the gear on.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: Like that's like.
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: Catching in particular, but everybody out there and baseball, like
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: a lot of the infields are turf too.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: That's just about like you're sitting on that infield, you're
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: playing shortstop, you're getting baked.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Out there on theos out there.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: The turf is always a lot harder, even not just
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: on the surface. You know, we've done it. I think
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: I mentioned this at one point, but we've done it.
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: Where we take you know, the tripod thermometer that SAIDs
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: you know, up at about head height and it's usually
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: ten to fifteen degrees hotter at five six feet above
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: believe you know, than it is if you just move
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: it over five feet and put it on the grass.
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: So it's it's it's not you know, it's not just
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: your feet to get scolded out there.
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: I remember Jack telling us sometimes like that turf, like
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: when we were out it's like one thirty five, Like, yeah,
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: that's yeah, it's one hundred outside.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: But where y'all are at one thirty it's cooking fun.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah good, No, it's great, No, it's good.
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: So if your kids are complaining when you kick him
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: out of the house to go play outside and they're
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: like it's hot outside. Just know it's for their own good,
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: it's for their safety. Got to kick him out there. Yeah,
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: lock the door. Maybe don't like the door, I mean,
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: cause they want to come in. But then you just
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: kick him back out again.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, charge we get a glass of water,
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: get back, and also don't kick him.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Well you said it.
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: I mean there's a figure of speech, but it literally,
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: So we'll move all right, let's move on before you
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: get yourself in more trouble.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you about Patrick Mahomes because he
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: was out at Ots yesterday.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Now, he didn't like, you know, go crazy.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: He had a huge brace on, but I mean he
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: was going through drills and he was, you know, going
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: through handoffs and he was going through dropbacks.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: He tore his a CL and his l CL in December.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Like that to me was fascinating that he was even
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: out there and again like it wasn't full speed. He's
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: being very cautious. But where we've come from where we
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: used to be, I mean a CL l CL that
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: was like a year. Yeah, you're out, you're done for
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: he did it in December. We're sitting here at the
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: end of May and he's participating in OTAs.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a multi ligament injury, so you know, a cl
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: is bad enough, but when you have a second ligament
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: injury with that, those are usually historically to your point,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: those are big injuries, and there's still big injuries. To
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: be fair, the rehabbing recovery is advanced, I think, I think,
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: and I think also people you understand you can't expect
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: this all the time. You know, you're your guy goes down,
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: Like why isn't he back in five months on the field,
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: like Patrick mahomes a, what position they're playing? Be Every
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: injury is different, but there are a lot of advances.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of things I think we
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: you know, we've kind of dabted on some of them
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: that we can maybe do a deeper dive down on
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: the road, but newer techniques that are maybe helping with recovery.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: There's all kinds of stuff out there. Some of it
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: probably works, some of it probably doesn't, just to be fair,
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: but these are things that I think, you know, we
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: realize that, hey, let's get him out there moving faster,
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: let's work on that range of motion. Let's get him stronger.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: And again, obviously to your point, these were controlled settings.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: He would not be cleared to play in a game
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: right now. But let's let's do him out there in
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: a controlled motion where he knows what he's doing. Start
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: getting that motion back, start building that strength back, and
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: you know, I think you're going to see more and
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: more of that, and we already are seeing more of it.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Typically.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Doc, I'm curious medicine has come so far. Let's
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: put on let's look at thirty years in the future.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: Where do you think medicine can go? Like, is there like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: is there a ceiling to where it can go from recovery?
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: Are we going to get to like Star Wars War
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: where they're just like putting a new arm on you
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: and you go like, where is it gone?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Like where does it cap?
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: And how fast can like in twenty years someone tears
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: in acl or rips and achilles, It's like, oh, he's
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: back in two months, three months?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Is that we?
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: What is the ceiling to medicine?
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: I think historically we've always been limited by the framework
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: of the human body. You know, you can only recover
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: something so fast, you only grow over your bone back
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: so fast. Now the interesting thing is there are some
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: new things out there that are maybe helping us get
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: a little bit faster. None of them are proven yet,
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: but but yeah, and then you know, it's funny. We
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: talked about it right before I came in off the
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: air about how you know, AI and all this stuff
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: is kind of Look, there's the technology that we have
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: now is going to affect medicine in the future for sure.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: I used to say, the ceiling is definitely there. I
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: don't even know, if you want me to be honest,
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know what our ceiling is. I now that
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: the idea of some of these you know, Star Wars
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: type things to me, and I make a joke all
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: the time.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I pat to become like, well, there's already fake news
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: and fake kills.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: It's like what I'm excited to see, you know, just
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: in my life was going to be.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: But it's funny. I make the joke like, you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: my patients will come in to have their MRI.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, the m RI fixed, you know, I'm like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: one of these days it's going to I joke around
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: about it now I'm like, well, you know, one day.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: It might you go send this tube and you come
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: out of it and you're you're walking normal or something.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: You know, we'll see, uh.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: You see repo man, I haven't seen that one. They
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: have like the metal like lungs and hearts and stuff.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Then you don't pay your bills, they come and take it.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: They come and take it. Yeah, yeah, that'd be terrible,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: be off.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Gotta pay your bills though, you know it makes you
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: put it on.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I okay, right, don't forget. Don't forget that one. All right?
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: There he is Doctor Stephen Athwidge again joins us every
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: single Wednesday morning at eight o'clock.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Doc, we always appreciate it, Sir, appreciate it, and I'd
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: be remiss.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: I gotta do one thing that I promised my wife
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: I would do so at forty seven, trying to find
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: a way to stay young and talking about these things.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Our decision that was not a decision but kind of
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: a whoops as we're having a kid, and I told her,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: I get shout out, I appreciate it.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Do you know how long I've been holding that in
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Because I found that out.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to say congrat.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: I appreciate it, so I was jealous of Taylor over here.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: So we got a Reet James coming.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Later this summer.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, I mean it's September, so yeah, we're great, start
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: football season.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Let's go. Thanks.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: But did you say the name Rett?
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: James said? I Oldrett. Rett's gonna be joining the team here.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: That's awesome. It is always a blessing.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: It's I mean, you know, I was out of the
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: game for seven years, dove right back in and uh,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of fun get a little a
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: little youthful jolt.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was sixteen for me, so I wasn't
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: really but hey, we couldn't be more happy. It's it's
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: also blessing.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Good for you.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, congratulations to you, to the missus to cold he's
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: gonna he's gonna have he's gonna enjoy that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Be older.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: But watching my sixteen year old interact with my two
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: year old is awesome. I mean, he is great. Whether
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: they're they're buds, you know, it's funny. You never know
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: how that's gonna work out, but that's awesome. So congratulations.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Hopefully it goes into the family profession, being a medical doctor.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I think you meant being a football player floor state
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: either way, got options, got options, so many.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll be back more. O T Live from
• 21:00
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• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Speaking of the hot weather that Doc was talking about.
• 21:07
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• 21:09
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• 21:29
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• 21:31
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• 21:34
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• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Done it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: I don't come down with the sun. I won't hit
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: myself from the moment, come no thoughts, tell.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Your body running from the locker room to the airwaves.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: It's off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: on the side.
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: Of the bench.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: It wasn't no, thank give you. I never reached you.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And another.
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: I don't ever think about everything a girl, and I
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: won't call again and again.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: It ain't nothing but.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Look in.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: That would.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Let's go document, Let's go that baby.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I've been known to dabble in that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: And you know I'm forty one, so maybe although I
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: always say this, you know I don't make roster decisions.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I'm the head coach. Yeah, like I'm not the GM
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: of this team.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Are you the head coach?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I'm the head coach, associate head coach.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.
• 23:41
  Speaker 11: Make some decisions, assistant to head coach.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you give your opinion, no doubt, you give your opinion.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: It's sometimes a little bit more more passionately than others.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, sometimes people listen. Most times they don't, you know, people.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: Hey man, I haven't seen you in a while. Hey, look,
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: I'm not in charge of the social calendar.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: What happened R and B Wednesday? Uh, We'll have an
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: R and B day this week. We just alliteration felt
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: good with wall on Wednesday.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Just this week.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: It could have been Morgan Monday.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: If you ever listened to the show, you know where
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: it could have been. But we weren't here Monday.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: It was a holiday. We're celebrating America. Taylor.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I'll still have the songs next Monday.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but we want to do it this We'll
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: be available, but we want to do it this week.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: We do what just have a theme video?
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: We could have done Morgan Monday. I was like, well,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: we weren't here. We were celebrated Marlor. It had been
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Marler Morgan Monday.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Anyways, so look, I like half the reason I show
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: up here is for the songs that Launde just spends
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: before we come in a segment.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: So chill have you Have you ever actually spun a record?
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Alandr has like on vinyl?
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't I see you DJ in at the family Bar.
• 25:03
  Speaker 12: I did do that, but they had the DJ booth
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: and I'm known to go up to the DJ booth
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: and not only request songs, but get on.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: My It's like, in the best way possible, because you
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: and I have similar music taste.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I bet you're the worst.
• 25:19
  Speaker 13: I have their phone numbers.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I have the DJ walk into the ball.
• 25:24
  Speaker 13: I hate to see me coming.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Well, there goes my playlist.
• 25:27
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I have their phone numbers and I text them my.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Taking request, taking the ox cord.
• 25:32
  Speaker 13: Yeah, so I'm just texting me us. This isn't my phone.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: You gotta text, I gotta text this.
• 25:41
  Speaker 13: Rejoin music is awful. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: What is up with? What was up with the mort
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of hate.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: It's either one or the other. You either really like him?
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: Are you really just like a great flavored drink or
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: something like that, or like cilantro. That's what I've learned
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: with like flavors and trying to like test flavors out
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: for for my high It's like there's a couple out
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: there that people either passionately hate it or passionately love it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: And I guess that's the same with Morgan Wallen.
• 26:13
  Speaker 11: I don't passionately love or hate Morgan Wallen.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I will say I love country music.
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: I'm not a big Morgan Wallin fan, okay, but I
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: don't have anything against him.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Is awesome. I love it great, like you like more
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: like m. I don't know what is it called.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Morgan's a little too poppy for me.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: He's poppy you like and Eric Eric Church is like.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: That's pretty poppy, not not like not like Morgan.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, there's a word for it. There's a there's a.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: I would definitely say that there's a handful of songs
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: that are very poppy.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: He's got something that aren't poppy sounding for me.
• 26:56
  Speaker 11: When a Morgan Wallin song like hits with me, I
• 26:59
  Speaker 11: love it and like for me, it's either a hit
• 27:01
  Speaker 11: or a.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Miss with him.
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: So that's what we're saying.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't dislike him. I really liked when he
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: walked off the stage at.
• 27:09
  Speaker 14: Saturday Night Live and he was like, take me to
• 27:11
  Speaker 14: God's Country.
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: Everybody was making fun of him for that, like they
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: were doing memes.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I liked it. I should post a people down there
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: in New York City.
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: Why what did I think of this? We should have
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: posted a picture of like on ESPN's page or otbs
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: of Tiger Stadium and like give me back to God's Country.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: I'm usually good about that stuff. I dropped the ball
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: in that one.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I dropped them ball that was quite a while ago.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: There's one.
• 27:40
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I dropped the ball. You're going in, I'm going
• 27:45
  Speaker 13: three sheets to the winds.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: You set me up. I had to spike it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: I mean if you if you hate Morgan Wallin, it
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: also means you don't respect or hate the music taste
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: of a lot of people. You probably liked the dude
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: the walkout with him. It's true a lot of people
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: walk the walkout Saban.
• 28:07
  Speaker 14: Who do you think would do it if he did
• 28:08
  Speaker 14: a show at Death Valley? You, I mean, Lane's the
• 28:14
  Speaker 14: obvious answers. Yeah, give me somebody better than that.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Tm O t B. Yeah, in full uniform like Peyton
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Manning was dresses.
• 28:23
  Speaker 13: Give me a not basic answer.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Wa, Wayne would be good?
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Wayne, I was gonna say that would be good. It
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: would be obvious to Woozy would be good.
• 28:32
  Speaker 13: It would be maybe athlete.
• 28:33
  Speaker 14: I'm thinking an athlete because it's usually like Peyton Manning.
• 28:38
  Speaker 13: Would be Yeah, Shack.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Jack would be great, just the size alone him walking Joe.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Joe would be great.
• 28:44
  Speaker 13: I don't know if he would but great.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: It would be tough to get Joe, like depending on
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: the time of year. Yeah, tough shock just come on
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: and friends already.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Truth, big true, big truth, big true. Was it Broadway
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck?
• 29:05
  Speaker 12: Adams said, Oh, Tyler Shuck would would do it like
• 29:09
  Speaker 12: and that would be Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 13: I guess if he was at.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: The Dome like was it?
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: Was he in Vegas recently when like he nobody showed up,
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: nobody was able to do it?
• 29:21
  Speaker 13: He said, I don't remember that he.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Was doing you walk out with him one time, probably,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: but he was doing it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: He's gonna show in Vegas and I guess people canceled,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: mm hmmm.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Jerks, we do need to have.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: A Tyler Shuck discussion because some of the some of
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: the disrespect out.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: There by a lot of people in the card game.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Not even that I'm talking about, like people talking second
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: year quarterbacks not thinking that Tyler shucks above some of
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: the players.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's a head scratcher.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: It's ignorant a little bit.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: It is, And I don't get it. Yeah, is it?
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Is it because he's in New Orleans? Is it because
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: he was a second round pick?
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: I think what I've heard a lot of people say,
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: is the age thing a little bit? That's it's really stupid, right,
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: it's really dumb. And why it's dumb in the market size. Yeah,
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: why the age stuff's dumb because Okay, he's twenty six. Now,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: if he plays the rest of his contract out, he'll
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: be thirty, he'll sign another deal six years, probably be
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: thirty six.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: And still have years to play. Right, Matthew Stafford's thirty nine.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Let's just Rogers just went yeah, but yeah, for sure,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: But Matthew Stafford just went MVP.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: He's thirty nine.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:42
  Speaker 11: I never understood because it's like you could have your
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: starting quarterback decade and he's thirty six years old.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Quarterback's not a position where like that should worry you,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: like if it was a running back.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's don't do that. Twenty six, he's got four
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: years last.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's not like twenty one like Lamar Jackson
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: was or twenty two or whatever. Like I get all that,
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: But my god, if you could have a franchise quarterback
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: for a decade, signed two contracts with him and he
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: retires at thirty five, which would probably be young for
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: a very well established starter starting quarterback, come on like,
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: he what, what did you not see in the nine games?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I get it wasn't three games at the end of
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: the year. I mean it was.
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: It was at least an extended period of time, enough
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: time to where he could have had some ye ebbs
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: and flows, some ups and downs, and he didn't didn't really,
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, the team wasn't very good, right, but they
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: won games.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Let's do this when we come back, because I do
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I do want to have that. I want to stand
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: up for Tyler Shuck. And look, we were watching Spencer
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Rattler played a good level, didn't have guys step up
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: around him, and the play around him didn't get elevated,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: and we were like, see what you have with Spencer Rattler.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: But the Saints knew what they hadn't Tyler Shuck.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: And in that moment we certainly admitted, Hey, okay, hand up,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: we're wrong there. Because Tyler Schuck elevated everyone around him.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: That was the skill set that if you're not there
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: every day you don't know well he had it because
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: even though Spencer was doing some good things, Tyler Shuck
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: made the Uber drivers around him better and that's something
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: that if you're not there every single day.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: You don't know, and so the Saints knew what they
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: had there.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Let's have the conversation of second year quarterbacks when we
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  Speaker 13: Now I told you what it was called SI something
• 36:02
  Speaker 13: like that.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: All right, this is good enough to go off of.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I was looking because like we've given you the stats
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: of what Tyler Shuck has been, and we've given you
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: the projections of peopould have played this amount of games
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: he was on. Uh, I think forty two sorry he
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: was on his way to four thousand plus yards.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's forty seven hundred.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: I believe Nichol said like that either way, So like
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: we can give you stats whatever, but I'm also looking
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: at like the Pro Football Focus grades, and look, some
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: people don't follow Pro Football Focus, some do.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: I think oftentimes my eyes tell me a story, then
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: I go back to check the grade to see if
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: my eyes were telling me the same thing.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: And it's got some really ninety percent of the time
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: it does, got some.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Really good tools.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: The grading is subjective, right, and you can argue, you
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: know whatever, but got some good tools here.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: So I'm just looking at Okay, let's see what they
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: said about a couple of young quarterbacks. And I got
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: through and four other ones and we can continue maybe
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: some of the research, but okay, Like JJ McCarthy was
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: sixty one point eight last year. He's a second year player,
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: but kind of a first year player because of injuries.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: And different things.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: These are greades.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: These are grades.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Jackson Dart sixty seven point nine, all Right cam Ward
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: fifty eight point four, Shadohor Sanders forty four point one
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Seventy five.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the best by a grade by a pretty
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: good margin as well.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: So it's not just the stats and not just.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: You know, us being in Louisiana talking about the Saints quarterback.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: It's not because obviously he's a friend of the show.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: It's none of that. It's no, you have football knowledge.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: You turn on tape and you're like, oh, that was
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: that was really good. Who's he throwing to?
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Oh? I don't know him either. Some of that too.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Now, I think cam Ward's gonna be much better. I
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: think you saw him take strides and unlike the other quarterbacks,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: camp Ward had to be thrown to the Wolves.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: He started from day.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: One, and camp Ward was, it's hard to say, probably
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: on a worse team than Tyler Shuck was.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: They're both bad.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: They were both bad, but like they're both bad, there's
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: a reason why were they're both picking in the top ten.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: And now let me let me follow up on the grades.
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: It paints a clear picture that Tyler Schuck played well
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: and played better than any other rookie quarterback in his class,
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: and that's that can't that can't really be argued on
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: the time that, Yeah, he didn't start as many games
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: as as some of the others. A little bit of
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: an indictment on this PFF grades that JJ McCarthy was
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: third highest.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: It's a little bit of indict He.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Didn't have the sample size though, Like he only played
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: a handful of games. It didn't have a lot of
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Like he didn't have a lot of attempts either, So
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: like some of the usage is going to be down.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like from what the eyeball test, I know
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: he was.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I thought Cam wore would be higher, but I'm not
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: surprised that should or was lower.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: JJ's great.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: I thought would be somewhere like in the fifty eight
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: range like Cam's was. He JJ wouldn't Wrick, No, I didn't.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I know he was a second year player, but he
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: went through injury, so kind of first year type of stuff.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I said that you go with that.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: You didn't. No, I didn't listen to that. I know.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I've been with you long enough. I understand the point is.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: And look, I've seen a lot of different podcasts, I've
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: seen a lot of different articles that are talking about
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: second year quarterbacks, and the conversation always starts with dark.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Then it goes to Sanders reward and then it goes
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: to Tyler Shuck And the question I have is why,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: And that's not like even look, our guys Jarvis Landry
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: and Leonard Fournette do a podcast and they were talking
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: about it and they kind of had schuck at the
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: bottom yep. And my man Jarvis didn't mess up the
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: pronunciation of Tyler's name as well. But like it's a
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: lot of people, I mean, it's people with like really
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: high football IQ yep. So I just I guess I
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: don't understand the disconnect of what he did last year
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: with who he did it with and where he's going
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: to go compared to these other quarterbacks.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: Even though what he did last year was great, it's
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: still the Saints are still irrelevant at the time.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: That he did it, right, all of these teams are irrelevant.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: I get that, but you couple that being a second
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: round pick, not a first round didn't have a one
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: by his name, and then the other and all I
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: can say is cam Ward the number one overall pick,
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: so he's obviously going to get a lot of attention.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Jackson Dart New York.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: Giants, and he was exciting in prime time, which Tyler
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: Schuck did not get a chance to do He did
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: not get a chance to be exciting in prime time
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: and then shador he's got a famous dad.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: That's pretty much it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: And he's not going to be the starter, which is
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: so it's wild to think, like we're not talking, we
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: get so wrapped into the narrative that you hear, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: that's what like out of side, out of mind. Well,
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: Tyler Schuck's been out of sight. He shouldn't have been,
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: but he has been out of sight, so he is
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: out of mind and it's crazy. And that's why it's like,
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: and I keep bringing this up and it's you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: it's kind of like I bring it up in a
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: little bit of jest, but like in the card world
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: is a reflection of what people actually think about him
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: outside of Louisiana, and they just don't think about him.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: They said, yeah, he's good, it's a rookie quarterback. Like cool,
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go collect those cards just just in case. Well, like,
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: what do you mean just in case? He was the
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: best quarterback of the class last year and I don't
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: think it was that close. So is he going to
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: be a franchise guy?
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: I heard Nick talk about, you know, sophomore slump. In
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: my experience, and what I see, for the most part
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: is I see the biggest jump for quarterbacks in the
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: NFL comes in between year one and year two. That
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: is where you're going to make the biggest strides in
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: your career as a quarterback in the National Football League.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: You're one to year two because now you're not new.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Now you get it. You get the speed, you get
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: the attention to detail you have to have, You get
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: now that it's a job and not a sport that
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: you play. You get now that, oh, the defense knows
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: is just as smart as I am. Even though defense
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: is a bunch of dumb dumbs in the NFL, they're
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: pretty smart. So, like, you start getting that, and you
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: start elevating, and you start seeing the things that other
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: quarterbacks do. You start speaking fluently in NFL language, you
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: start and you understand your offense a whole heck of
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: a lot better. So these are the big jumps. I
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: don't sophomore slump, like, what is that like? Unless you're
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: like you're getting a brand new coach and you just
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: stink and you had a lucky first year.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: But that's not the case. Watch the tape. It wasn't lucky,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: not at all.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: And if you're a Saints fan, you should be excited
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: about not just Tyler Shuck continuing to develop.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: You should be excited that they got him actual weapons.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: They got him another receiver to fight to be the
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: number one receiver on this team. They got him a
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: third round tight end, they signed a tight end in
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: free agency, and they also got a chan to be
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: the running back to take.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Some pressure off a young quarterback.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: And so I don't know about other shows, but here
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: on this show, we are certainly going to highlight how
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: well Tyler Shuck played in his rookie season and look
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: forward to seeing what he does in his second season.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: All Right, we'll step away more OTB when we come
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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench Locked in on LSU Football twenty four
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  Speaker 9: Don't know where you at, No where you man, don't
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• 44:49
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• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't not until now.
• 45:00
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• 45:01
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• 45:05
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• 45:06
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  Speaker 4: be there, we'll be there. It's the breakfast bar. We
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  Speaker 4: do it every Friday. Lunch bar, salad bar, sushi bar
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  Speaker 4: all right there as well, pre made meals and you
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  Speaker 4: know they always have something local at Rowse's. They're all
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  Speaker 4: about Louisiana. They're all about the Gulf coast here. So
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  Speaker 4: go to Rouses dot com for more information.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Rowses dot com.
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  Speaker 6: You can put your zip code in right there and
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  Speaker 6: it'll show you your local rouses, aren't it closest to
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  Speaker 6: your house, And they show all the deals that they
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  Speaker 6: are running that week, So go check them out. Get
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  Speaker 6: your groceries right there at rolses dot com.