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#604 - Mickey Factz Talks Teaching Rap at NYU, The Blog Era, Signing to Jive Records & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: we got a special guest in here, one of the greats,
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  Speaker 1: Mickey Facts. What's up, keV? Can you tell the people?
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  Speaker 1: Because I just saw you post your n y U
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  Speaker 1: I D and I know you're teaching and you got
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  Speaker 1: a lot going on. Yeah, yeah, you're like quite literally
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  Speaker 1: teaching rap, right, teach rap?
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  Speaker 2: So uh, something that I haven't told a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: Black Thought was teaching it for three years at YU
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  Speaker 2: and nobody knew about to say, nobody knew and he
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  Speaker 2: his schedule got a little hectic, so he put in
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  Speaker 2: a good word along with one of my other friends,
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  Speaker 2: Seawan Tatyro, so I took over the position. Wow and
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  Speaker 2: h I fly in every Thursday to New York from
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta to teach it.
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  Speaker 1: Black Thought as a rap teacher is wild. The fact
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  Speaker 1: that hasn't come out like a f I as a student,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, yo, y'all have no idea. I walked
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  Speaker 1: into class today, Professor Tarique is fucking Black Thought. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like if there's anybody, it'd be him,
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  Speaker 1: I obviously yourself. I think Blue Bay could teach a
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  Speaker 1: rap class, which he's doing. Oh wait, I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: At John Hopkins, Jesus would say, you're teaching rap, like
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  Speaker 1: what is like a lesson planned for you?
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  Speaker 2: Lesson planning right now is fundamentals. So teaching them focal point,
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  Speaker 2: which is like the word you used to rhyme perfect,
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  Speaker 2: rhyme slant, rhyme, flow delivery, multi syllabic. And that's just
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  Speaker 2: to kind of get the basics down. Then we start
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  Speaker 2: looking at other MC's to kind of see what they
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  Speaker 2: do so we can identify what they do, and then
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  Speaker 2: from there we start to work on performances and then
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  Speaker 2: the intricacies of lyricism and songwriting from.
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  Speaker 1: That super sick. So you guys might be like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: today we're gonna study Eminem.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and then we'll break down what he's doing, how
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  Speaker 2: he's doing it, and how he's able to get his
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  Speaker 2: thoughts across what uh?
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  Speaker 1: What if? I don't know if you could share, but
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  Speaker 1: what rappers have? Are? Are you gonna break down?
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  Speaker 2: So I have a list of like one hundred right,
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  Speaker 2: so I could start, So I try to keep it
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  Speaker 2: post two thousand uh from a studying standpoint, and then
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  Speaker 2: I like to keep it from a from an underground standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: And then we also study some of the newer artists
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  Speaker 2: as well. So you got to think if I if
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about previously, you know, we're talking Kanekouji rap
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  Speaker 2: rock him, et cetera. Then you got the j Nah's big,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the usual suspects everybody here us on the wall.
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  Speaker 2: And then from a woman's standpoint, little Kim Salt and
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  Speaker 2: Pepa et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And then in
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  Speaker 2: this era, you know, we make sure to cover the Rhapsodes,
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  Speaker 2: the said Rocks, the uh Sahad, the princes and the
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  Speaker 2: king Loses and those people. And then the newer artists
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  Speaker 2: they have to you know, they have to present what
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  Speaker 2: they see from the newer artists and how they're creating
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  Speaker 2: and crafting this stuff. Right, So we got the Playboy
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  Speaker 2: Carti stuff, we got some NBA young boy stuff quick
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  Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Lay Boy Cardi. What's up? So when you are talking
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  Speaker 1: about his rapping, yeah, what is what do you take
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  Speaker 1: away from? Like I just like you and the obviously
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  Speaker 1: the kids probably love Cardi. The kids love Cardi. I
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  Speaker 1: just like when it cuts as a rapper. Sometimes it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of aura, right, it's a lot of vibe.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a very punk rocket.
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  Speaker 2: Everything that you're saying is literally what I take away
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  Speaker 2: from it. So I say this, it's more of about
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  Speaker 2: a vibe. I feel like Cardi, here's a beat, probably
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  Speaker 2: gets lick it up and whatever drugs he's taken and
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  Speaker 2: goes in and says whatever comes to his brain.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any redeeming qualities to give to the
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  Speaker 1: students When you hear his music.
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  Speaker 2: I think like, hey, you guys, this is how he
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  Speaker 2: does it, and this is we just learn jay Z.
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  Speaker 1: But this is what you could take from Playboy Cardi.
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  Speaker 2: I think you could pull something from anybody, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that what you can pull from Playboy Cardi from
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  Speaker 2: that point is melodic rapping.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He does that at a high level. When you think
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  Speaker 2: about and I say this respectfully, right, when you think
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  Speaker 2: about high level MC's like a ransom or r J Payin, joelots,
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  Speaker 2: any of these, they can't do what Cardi do.
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  Speaker 1: They just can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: And that's like, no, they can't do it because in
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  Speaker 2: their brains. It's more about the lyrics and the writing
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to the vibe and saying is less words.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's why I think Future is one
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest of all time.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I agree, I think Future, but you got
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  Speaker 2: to also look at futures beginnings like he.
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  Speaker 1: Was, and he's got due family still in his arms,
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  Speaker 1: still in his arms.
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  Speaker 2: He was going by Meathead paused and he was sounding
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  Speaker 2: like Ludacris when he first came out.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't. I haven't dug that deep.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I'm here, That's why you're the future. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So he was rapping like Ludacris when he first came out.
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  Speaker 1: Then he had to switch it up, and when he
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  Speaker 1: started to when he found his lane and his groove,
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  Speaker 1: then he started to morph into what we love. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Is there an artist that's frustrating as an as you're
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  Speaker 1: an MC's MC now you literally teach this right. Is
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  Speaker 1: there somebody who you get frustrated listening to from the
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  Speaker 1: newer generation? No? I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think that there's people that I'd be
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  Speaker 2: looking at. I'd be like, how did this person get
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  Speaker 2: a situation or a scenario. But it's never to the
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  Speaker 2: point where I get frustrated that like, Yo, what am
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  Speaker 2: I listening to? I just try to pull the reason
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  Speaker 2: people listen to it. I have to because I'm teaching.
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  Speaker 1: No of course, and like you know, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: there's at the end of the day, there's a market
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  Speaker 1: for these these artists, even if you're not necessarily into
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of you know, like a yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's I think what you just said is important, right,
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  Speaker 2: there's a market for it. And if there's a market
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  Speaker 2: for it, we as the people who run the school,
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  Speaker 2: we have to we have to understand why there's a
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  Speaker 2: market for it. Who is this market and what about
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  Speaker 2: this person do these people like? And why you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, like, I listen to it and
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  Speaker 2: I try to pull the positive out of it so
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  Speaker 2: I can understand it.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's what I look at it. Could you give
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  Speaker 1: me I take away album sales, throw throw discography out
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  Speaker 1: right at the talent of rapping. Who do you think
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  Speaker 1: is like in the conversation for like the greatest of
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  Speaker 1: all time? I throw the legacy out. I'm not like
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  Speaker 1: when people will be like, well, you know, the album sales.
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  Speaker 1: They got to five Mike almrokill the skill of rapping.
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  Speaker 1: That's it, that's it, loop A fiasco, damn. I that's
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  Speaker 1: my number. Yes, And if anybody's questioning that should just
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  Speaker 1: go listen to murals like nine minutes or just eleven?
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  Speaker 1: Is it elevens is eleven minutes? Yeah, that would be
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  Speaker 1: my choice. That would be my choice. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: like in the discs, it's like loop A then like
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  Speaker 1: black thought, it's loop A black thought. It might be
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  Speaker 1: I might throw in ASoP rock in there, low key.
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  Speaker 1: It's I mean, if were talking just skill set, like
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  Speaker 1: I think Eminem is up there, Eminem will probably be
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  Speaker 1: in there. I would put them there. I'm forgetting somebody
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  Speaker 1: and it's gonna bother me. Hold on my brain's uh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think when.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at NAS, true, I'm not mad at
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  Speaker 2: Nas at all.
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  Speaker 1: I think Nas. You're talking about a guy who first
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  Speaker 1: came out ninety two. What do you think about Kendrick
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  Speaker 1: in that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Kendrick is in there. I put Kendrick in there,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think that quietly. Royce too, I would
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  Speaker 2: have I would have Royce in there. I would have.
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  Speaker 2: I would got to just throw his name in there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that, I think. But if if
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  Speaker 2: you told me like three people, I would probably say
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  Speaker 2: loop a thought, and then it will probably like the
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  Speaker 2: third spot.
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  Speaker 1: Can go to a few, go to a few.
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  Speaker 2: People, but I don't have anybody higher than those two.
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  Speaker 2: If you remove everything and just kind of just let
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  Speaker 2: them wrap, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty tough. Yeah, I agree. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: Lupe to me is the name I always go back to.
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  Speaker 1: And it's crazy too, because it's like he's had this
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  Speaker 1: like new like quiet run that he's on where he's
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  Speaker 1: putting like the Samurai shit. It's so crazy like conceptually,
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  Speaker 1: and it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like but I think when you look at when you
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  Speaker 2: look at stuff like that, right, like you have to
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  Speaker 2: look at it like, Okay, he's implementing his lifestyle into
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  Speaker 2: the art and.
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  Speaker 1: It's so fat and it's just like, yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think Loupe when we talk about the the Greats is
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  Speaker 1: like it's like almost like if Atlantic hadn't like frustrated
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  Speaker 1: him so much with the industry and like made him
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  Speaker 1: hate it, you know, it's like what could have been
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  Speaker 1: The first two albums were so crazy it was a
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  Speaker 1: gift in the curse.
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  Speaker 2: They saw they saw the success of Superstar and it
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh you did that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, then baby, you could do this too. Here's
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• 9:44
  Speaker 2: Right, and here's you know, here's all of this stuff
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  Speaker 2: that eventually went to Bob and he was probably like,
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  Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here, Like I did this
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  Speaker 2: because this was me and my man and we made
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  Speaker 1: you were in the like cause you're quite literally like
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  Speaker 1: a found foundational member of what we would call blog
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  Speaker 1: era rap. Yes, Uh, you were probably one of the
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  Speaker 1: first names I think I really kind of found online
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  Speaker 1: because you know, for people who don't know, you had
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  Speaker 1: kicked off like this weekly thing where you were dropping
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  Speaker 1: music every week, which was like new. Yeah, nobody was
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  Speaker 1: doing after you. Crooked I did it. No, so Crooked
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  Speaker 1: I Cricket I do it. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: He did freestyles first in the middle of two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and seven.
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  Speaker 1: So so he was doing the weekly shit, the weekly freestyles, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but you were dropping like original songs.
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  Speaker 2: I was dropping the original songs started in January once
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  Speaker 2: a week. That shit was unheard of.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever get because there was like that the
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  Speaker 1: blog era was very interesting because you had like a
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  Speaker 1: guy like Bob who was like a blog era Darling yep,
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  Speaker 1: and I had amazing mixtapes and for whatever reason, it
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  Speaker 1: just felt like he just was like hitting the ceiling
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  Speaker 1: at the label or whatever. And then he gets to
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: the Brunal Mars record and you know, yeah, kind of
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: the director of his career change with j Cole's kind
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: of in that same vein too. Ye. Were you ever like,
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: did they ever try to force feed you, like because
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: I had you had a major deal. Yeah, I was
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: with did they try to force feed you, like, uh No,
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  Speaker 1: I came in there with the singles like yo, we
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  Speaker 1: got this hook from.
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  Speaker 2: I came in there with those records. Ah, so it
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: was different from me.
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  Speaker 1: Were you like a tail end to drive existing Yes? Crazy,
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  Speaker 1: That's why I never got the hit record.
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  Speaker 2: So like I came in there with the big records,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: they were like, oh shit, we don't have to give
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: this guy the stuff because he has it already. And
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: then their issue was, Okay, this guy is known as
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: the rapper, how do we take him from being the
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: rapper to doing this type of music? And as they
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: were figuring it out, the label folds. So I went
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: from like they were getting ready to push the button.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: The first single that well, Paradise did really well. We
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  Speaker 2: got bdspins that charted, and then we had the Martian
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: and Brochure record for the Culture. As soon as they
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: were getting ready to impact the label, literally, Foald Barry
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  Speaker 2: Weis's left like he didn't even tell anybody, He just
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  Speaker 2: kind of left. He was like I took this job
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: at a death jam and then that was it. One
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  Speaker 2: day he was at work at job, next day he
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  Speaker 2: was at year.
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  Speaker 1: This was twenty eleven. Damn.
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  Speaker 2: So so you think, okay, I had the records, I
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: sat at, I was well, the entire label was defunct.
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  Speaker 2: So me, Chris Brown, R Kelly, all of us, Britney Spears,
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Britney Spears justin Tiberla like all of us. We didn't
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: have a home for like five months. And then eventually
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: Sony came because again he just left. So Sony came
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: in and it was like, okay, we're going to purchase. Uh,
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: some artists are going to go to EPIC and then
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: some artists are going to go to RCA. So some
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: people got dropped, like Diamond from Crime Moms, she got dropped, right,
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  Speaker 2: I got moved to RCAA. So I had a brand
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  Speaker 2: new deal. So with this new deal, I had a
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  Speaker 2: brand new an R. I had a brand new project manager.
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  Speaker 2: I had a brand new.
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  Speaker 1: All these people aren't people who like found you, so
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  Speaker 1: they're not invested in it.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't have the catalog or if you
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: don't have the names, because for them it's numbers and
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  Speaker 2: it's about Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, well why we want to Like fuck, how
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: motivated can be to break an artist that you don't
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  Speaker 1: really that you weren't a part of bringing into the building.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So what I had to do I had to
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  Speaker 2: make all new records because Jive, as you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was a pop it was pop label. The only the
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  Speaker 2: only rappers on there was me, the Clips, and Diamond
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  Speaker 2: from Com.
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  Speaker 1: Left.
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  Speaker 2: By then forty forty was going, so it was uh
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  Speaker 2: too short, too short he was going. So it was
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  Speaker 2: only like three rappers. So I wanted to do the
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  Speaker 2: pop ship. I wanted to be in pop. I wanted
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  Speaker 2: pop money.
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  Speaker 1: I had the Clips Drive shirt from like that era,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: well that was from way earlier than that. Fuck yeah
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  Speaker 1: that was like that was like I bought it on
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Mixed Unit dot com.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had to call some favors and so
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I called the Yellow Wolf.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I called up Bruno and this is before he did.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: The record with No Uh yeah, this is like right
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: after he did the record with d Ob. So I
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: had a Bruno record, I had a John Legend record,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: but they still wasn't trying to push the button damn.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: So I was just like, all right, well listen, it's
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: time for me to go.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Who who do you think is like? Because I do
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: feel like there was so many dope artists at that
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: era that like for whatever reason. I think a guy's
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: like Pill and Charles Hamilton and Ruggin. There's just so
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: many incredible artists that just XV was crazy. Zero Heroes
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: is insane. But who do you think was kind of
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: like one of the products of that era of music
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: that just for whatever reason you felt like, you know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: should have been bigger. Didn't that necessarily hit the way
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that a lot of you know, the peers did. I'd
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: probably say myself, if you I mean, obviously take yourself
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: out of.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: There, If I take myself out of the conversation. I
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: think I think Fred rest in peace for the God.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: He was on his way, you know. I think with
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: him in thirty eight special was doing right before he
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: passed away in the pandemic, I think was he was
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: finally kind of getting that love.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Ace hood.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I think he got a bad deal when people started
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: taking his flow.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: You think you you correlate with the blog era though, Yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: he was on got He was like, yeah, that is true.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: He was on that cover. Was oh my god, he
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: was on the cover. He was on the cover, and
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Motheruckers was like, why is it? Acewood is crazy? By
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the way, super Fire shout out to a but he's
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: got some records, yeah he had, but no, he has
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: he has big records. Yeah.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I think the issue was people took his flow after
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: he had those hits, and.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Then it was yeah he's had some joints, man, big joints,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: and like he's like quietly built up, like a dope
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: independent catalogs. He has a great following. Yeah, he's got it,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: like real locked in following. Yeah. I mean a lot
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of it is you know, fitness, A lot of it
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: is great music too. Who always on this cover? I'm
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: trying to remember it was that there, Me Cuddy, Yeah,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Charles Jesus, Corey, Corey probably it was crazy. Corey probably
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: should have been.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Corey was so tough, Bob Currency, who's cooking, Yeah, cooking
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Cuddy mm hmm.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a crazy that was because that was
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the second one, right, because the first one was like
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Joel er T's Crooked Eye and Blue and Blue. Yeah,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: you know, j Leg was supposed to be on the cover. Damn,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: he he was on sold most death. I haven't I'm
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie. He put out all that new music.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I listened to the first like piece, and I haven't
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: just had time to because I like, I feel like
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I need to like sit down. I'm like, yeah, I
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: saw somebody's I liked it, but if somebody felt like
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: somebody said it sound it felt like an audiobook. Yeah,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I thought it was cool what I heard. But I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: feel like it's so crazy that a single song exhibits
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: C can be so great that like a Damn Near,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: like it's it's it pushed him into this like shadowy
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: mythical figure of music. Yes, and like the album dropped.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: It was like damn Near a co album with jay
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Z every the name of the album. It was cool
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: written testimony fucking exhibit It's like Exhibit C is such
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a that was.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Just Blaze, but you know, just just said that he
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: had an album full of those, because you know they
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: did an album and it's like, just what are you doing, bro,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: like because this is at his height, because you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: they did Exhibit A, then they had Exhibit C, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: then and then that same radio station he played Exhibit
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: B with fucking most death listen.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Man, I was just Blaze was making more beats right now. Yeah,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: he only makes sinc beats. Me and Alchemist were talking
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: about this and he was like, yo, like if just
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: really just tapped, like got focused for like a year.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: He could just do collap albums because I was kind
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: of showing, like showIn everybody the way right now.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I think just me and Just had the same We
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: had the same booking agent for a while.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: He got into the ed M space.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: He los video games, he's a gamer, and he just said,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I think he just got tired. He was like, nah,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: because I remember after I did the album with Knots,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: he came to the album release party. He was like, Yo,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I'm down to do a collab album, and then I
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: never heard from Just again.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: He's probably my favorite. He has a collab listen, listen
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to these names. He has collab albums with that I
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: know of that are just sitting on hard drives. Jay Electronica,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: he has an El's Eye album. Els is one of
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the ones man shout to Detroit, Shoutson. He has an
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Elsie album. Bro. He's actually another guy that I would
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: actually might be in that combo. He's yeah, yeah, definitely,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I put damn. He has an Elsie album Bro. That's wild.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: And you know, Just is one of the best producers
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: you know ever. Yeah, and he just refuses.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: He just refuses Yeah, it's kind of wild. You would
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: think like we'd get like a just blaze beat on
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: a Kendrick album or fucking something I forgot. I feel
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: like the last great like big just blaze beat. I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: could think of what was on the Drake album? Was
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: it Tusking leather? Didn't he do that? Did he do
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Tusking level on My Tripping? He did a he did
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: something on that show. The last beat that he did
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: was Kirk Franklin and Little Baby See. I don't want
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to hear that ship. The beat was unbelievable. I want
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to just hear the beat. That's all I want to hear.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I just want to hear instrumental. The beat was on
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the record. Beat was bonkers, you know.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: You know the interesting thing about So just just gave
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: me a beat and.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I put Jilla Jones on it. My guy right here.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: And the song is called Pendulum And that's where we
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  Speaker 2: started our school.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Pendulum man, that's crazy. Yes, and we did that. He
• 21:40
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• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Lord knows that was twenty fourteen. No, that was earlier.
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  Speaker 1: to the podcast. Yeah, so you have your own own school.
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  Speaker 1: I have my own school. So tell me about that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Last time I was here was what twenty twenty one? Yeah,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: so I started the school the next year, Okay, And
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you know, it's a school for lyricism.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: We teach people how to rhyme.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: We teach them how to flow on beat if they
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: can't from a foundational skill standpoint. We have a mental
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• 23:19
  Speaker 2: back there. We also teach content, how to create content.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: We have business classes.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's the shit that like is important because
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like kind of like you could tell me
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: if you I'm always like, look, I feel like people
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: could technically learn how to rap, right, yeah, but I
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: kind of feel like if you got it, you got it,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, yes, to an extent,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: It's like you could technically go and like train it
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: like a basketball coach.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Right, but until you have to have the it, that's
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: what you feel. I just feel like, I mean, I
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: think I think the Internet has kind of removed that
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Like you can kind of just be that is true.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there's a kid named Ian that's horrible,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: but he has fans Ian. I like Ian a little bit.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I like Ian. I think he's the worst rapper alive. Really,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, he is horrible. I feel like he
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: has zero redeeming qualities. Isn't he from? I don't know,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I sure hope not. What's that fucking Ian kid with
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: all the fucking n's in his name? His double XLF
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: freestyle by the way, people love it, by the way,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: So this is I am a single opinion because apparently
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: he performs it on tour and people sing it. It
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: is the most remedial rapping I've ever heard in my life.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta, you gotta pull the thing from
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: st Lewis him and sexy sexy reto out wrap him
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: under a fucking table by the way. Yeah, I believe that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: But you know, I just want to apologize to the
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Californian people to put in Yeah, we.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Can't put in over here. I mean, if he was from,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: he'd be from like Orange County or something. We're from
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: fucking like pala Alto where they got Tesla factory ship.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I cannot wait because I'm gonna get the label request
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: to have Ian on, and I'm gonna tell him to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: his face. I think he's the worst rapper alive. He's
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: gonna cook you. No, I mean he could cook me like.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, just so you know my personal opinion, I
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: can't think of a worst rapper. He's going to give
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you fifty bus By the way, you got more fans
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of me, It's all good. They probably got more money
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to me. But I don't know. Your parents look like
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: they probably got money. But congratulate. Yeah, prove me wrong.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Put a beat on. Put a beat on. He'll cook.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Let's throw on some shook ones. Oh, he won't cook
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a goddamn thing. He will cook cereal. That motherfucker will
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: cook Ramen noodles and cereal. I'm not mad at Ian
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: shout out. I shout out to you. You're a nice guy.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't want to. I don't want
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: to piss anybody.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: He's this the one rapper that I've seen like rap
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, what is this? What the
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: fuck are we doing? The Playboy cardis shout I get
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: because I feel like the cardis shit at least, is
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: like I feel, because you know, punk rocks kind of
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: kind of. I know there's punk rock bands. I know
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: they exist, but like you know, when I was in
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: high school, punk rock was like a thing the kids
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: were into. They'd wear T shirts. Right. That shit's kind
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of out now, So it's like the new punk rock
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: is like Playboy CARDI, right. I mean when I heard.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: The album, I was just like, I wanted him to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: just tell me where he was at, where he'd been,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: because he had just disappeared for so long.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: You know, I just wanted to hear that. But I
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: don't think we get all that. But the production on
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the albums, there's some crazy beats on that album. Yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I thought I thought he cooked. There's like
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: seven or eight joints on the Playboy CARDI out my
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: fuck With. I thought he got Kendrick on one of them. Jones. Yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, So, how can where's the school located? Uh?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: So it's all online, Okay, so you can be anywhere
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: online courses.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Online courses, pendulum, mek dot com. But some of my students,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: you know, they're here right here in the interview, So
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: they flew into La having a writing retreat. You know
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We had the show last night with
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: rasc tried to rast, so some of my students ron
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: last night at the Pack show. You know, it's pretty dope.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: And once a month we have a celebrity guest coming.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: We got Jada Kiss next month. Next week part of
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: me hate it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and hopefully Cam next month. Cam would be crazy. Yeah.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I just did a big breakdown on him. I was
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: in No, I didn't, but that was it was funny.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: That was one of the artists gonna ask you about.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: It's like when you're like teaching a class, like do
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you like go there and be like, look, there was
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: this era where these guys are rhyming the same word
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: with the same word and it was so fire. We
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: call it glitchen. Yeah.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, rather imagine me wake up seven thirty for work.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I rather run the street seven thirty with work.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He used to do that all the time. His
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: new freestyles. He drops like he's just brushing his hair.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, dog, can we
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: get an album?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: He said him, And then Mason got some ship. They're
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: going together right now. Who do you think is better
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: of him and Mace, I.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Think Cam's I think, yeah, I think I think Cameron
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: is close. I think it might be close. They can
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: go either way, go either way. I think Mace is
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: definitely underappreciated and very slept on him talk about like
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: his ability of right. I mean, look, both of them are.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: His ascension was outrageous and it sucks because it's like
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: we you know, Harlem World was so crazy. Double Up
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: had some shit on it. I bought Double Up. You
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: know back in the double when you bought albums, you
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: had to find some shit you liked on the alms. Yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: there was some shit on Double Up that was solid.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: It was great, was crazy. And then like obviously popping
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: up on like twenty four Hours to Live and yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: he was cooking fucking all of the puffs. No way,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: he was all over, no way out. You know, Mace
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: is definitely I just think Cam on every R and
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: B records, I think, yo, yeah, but just Cam, like man,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about just like fingers all over
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the game, just like just fashion like alone, like motherfuckers
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: was out here buying Pink Tall Tea's dog, Like.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it was something that I
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: said into my breakdown. Every decade he had a newer
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: artist with him from Harlem, right, yeah, Cardan in the nineties,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: two thousands, yeah, Juel's two thousand cens he had Votto.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: That's true. I forgot about the Vodo shit. Yeah. And
• 29:02
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• 29:07
  Speaker 2: He had forty col He had Chaldy clips with him
• 29:09
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• 29:12
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  Speaker 1: his first album. I think, well from Baby Grand.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I think so, you know, Baby Grand is the reason
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: why we don't get no stove gut bro.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Who did I just have this talk with? I won't
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: even say who we were talking now, I can't talk
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: about it. Well, I'll just say this, whoever I was
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: talking to about this is very very important legend. Okay.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And they were talking about how much of a piece
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: of ship the guy who owns Baby Grand is. Yeah,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: what you would know chuck chuck, Yeah, okay the chuck
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: got I heard he is fucking horrible. Yeah, that's the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: worst guys ever. Like just a piece of ship. Yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and like it's holding Like I heard hell of people
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: try to buy Stove got out and this fool is
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: just a dickhead.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: West Side is like west Side off of the money.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: He was like, no, he's just holding it. He's just ya.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: What's the like like? Because you know, I think when
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I was like when I was going up, I remember
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: seeing Baby Grand was like the label like on a
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: bunch of dope albums, you know, but like two thousand
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: and three. Yeah, but fuck that dude, man, I mean
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the dude like there was two people who were shipping
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: on him, were very pretty parted legends, I believe it,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, yeah, that dude's like the absolute worst.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Now he's black guy too short. I figured he was
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: a white dude for sure. Short, this is a fuck.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: You just threw a fucking wrench into the whole thing.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I figured it was a white dude, chubby, a fat short.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I figured a fat, short, white dude. He kind of
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: reminds me of Jerry Hella, but just minus designism. Yeah.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: You just don't know who he is.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: But if you was around during the block, you know
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: he offered a lot of people deals back then.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, it didn't make sense to me.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It just didn't make it never made sense to me.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I saw, Uh, somebody said one of the dudes from
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Raucus and Sterns and New Ship. I don't know who
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: from from I think the Murdoch full Murdoch so Rupert
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Murdoch's son who funded Raucous Records. Okay, but somebody had
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: said that he's getting into some other label ship. I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: don't know, but I don't know. I feel like all
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: of those rich like lineage folks like and his son,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: everyone's just kind of taking over the world right now.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: And then you know, you got the the Granges running
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: two fucking majors. You know. Do you remember let me
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: ask you this, do you remember Timmy he'll figure son.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Of course he was a rapper, right, yes, yeah, I
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: remember that. Who's who's a better rapper? Him or fucking
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: chet Hanks. I think he'll figure son, for sure, he'll
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: figure son. But he was most like singing, singing. I
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: don't know, but I remember he was running. Uh, he
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: was running. He was running. He his dad hated that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sure didn't like it. He supported it though, yeah,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he probably financed it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he had him running, like the the
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: clothes there was another clothing line that he'll figure bought outside.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, like a secondary like but it was a big one.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I can't remember the name. Let me find out. He
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: was running his fucking fat farm. It was like it
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: was like paper denim of something like that. It probably
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: was paper. I think they bought paper dnim.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: And then he was running, he was it was either
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: paper it was something else maybe public or.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Something probably with some shit like that. So people can
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: sign up online.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can sign up pendulumink dot com, fill out
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: an application and then you know, we'll meet with you
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: on zoom walk you through it, you know, so you
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: can see that it's not a scam.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: What is uh? Like? Does it take to graduate from
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: this school? You need at least two years in the school.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: You know, you need a year if you're nice, you
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: need a year at our advanced technique class, and then
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: you need a year with me and then you graduate
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: and then we put you in I was sink class.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And then the same class will help people get syncs.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, and then you know, we'll help you if you
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: you know, want to put music out, we'll support you
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: in that space as well.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Nice Yeah, I mean shit, what you're you're independent? Like
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: what do you there's so many different like independent distroy
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: agencies now where people I know a lot of people
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: shot on District Kid shout out the District Core. But
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I know District Kid was the first person to do
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the first company do splits, yes, which was important, and
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are doing them.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: They gave us they gave us scholarship money two years
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: in a row.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Oh fire. Yeah, So I have nothing bad to say.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: But what I was gonna say, like, is there is
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: there a distro company you feel like that, you know,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: anybody has access to that is better than the others.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I'm always going to say distro Kid. Yeah. I just
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: think distro Kid's simple, It's very simple. I don't go
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: through them.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I have an independent situation with Soul Spasm, but I
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: feel like distro Kid is the perfect space for people,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And then if you're trying
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: to go direct to consumer, you know obviously you know
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: even even that you know Chuck is suing them. Why
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: because Stove God put that album on there. Damn what
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: a piece of shit. He's suing them for copyright infringement.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: What's up with this chick? Where's he from New York?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I think he's from New York. If he's not from
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: New York, he's from Houston. One of the two. Chuck
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the fuck Okay, not mad at that? Yeah, Cooks all right.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna do a separate interview or a separate video.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: You freestyle and man appreciate you pulling up school. Thank
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: you for having me up here. And if people want
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: to sign up on more time pendulum mink.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Dot com, fill out an application, meet with me on zoom.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Let's have a conversation. If someone's absolutely cheeks, nah, we'll
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: make them better. I'm fucking terrible though.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: If you sign up, I'll get you nice in two years.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: But you got to be dead ass though, keV, You're
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: not really dead ass. You got all of these studios here.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Do you rap?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: No?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Funck? Now? Oh? Now? Do you have rhythm? If you
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: could DJ, that means you can count? So yeah, you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: like I understand song like I mean, like, dude, I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: have songwriters and artists I work with, So it's like
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I understand I've helped with a line here or there right,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: not cocaine of course, like a song a songwriter. Yeah, no,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like yeah, I mean I understand like a
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: sixteen bar verse, eighteen bar or eight bar verse, et cetera.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Like if you if okay, let me ask you this, keV.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: If if you if you came, if you signed up
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: to the school and we asked you, what kind of
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: rapper would you want to be?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: What would you man Ian's dad? Yeah, like what kind
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: of make but the old people version. I don't think
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: we need. You don't need to come to the school
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: to do that. Now, I think you're right. You could
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: just fucking start rapping. Oh thank you. That's the meanest
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: thing you said on the podcast today, and I appreciate.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: That's how we're gonna end it, all right, Mickey facts
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: m