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Episode 118 A College Minister’s Advice to Parents feat. Yusuf Agoro · MESSmerized - Funny and faith based encouragement in marriage , family , Christian parenting , and finding purpose

• 0:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is Cynthia Gannoff and you are listening to the mesmerized podcast.
• 0:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey friends, welcome to podcast.
• 0:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So glad that you're here.
• 0:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is part two of my conversation with Yusuf Agoro.
• 0:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if you missed last week, you need to go back and listen.
• 0:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He tells us the story of growing up in a Muslim home and how he came to Christ and it is remarkable.
• 0:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And not only just because it's an incredible story of how he came to faith, but it's really representative of how we all are pursued by the Lord in a relationship with him and it's such an encouragement.
• 0:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So go back and listen if you missed it.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: But today, we are going to talk about college kids because use of is a pastor at the well church in Austin and that's where my daughter attends church and he's just an awesome minister there and so in touch with college kids and we're going to talk today about what college kids value when it comes to faith and faith issues and maybe what's not so successful with them.
• 1:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're also going to talk about church hurt and walking through that and then don't miss the end.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do not miss the end where he just talks about the number one thing he would want us to know about college kids what to do and it just has their prayer and how we're praying for our kids and I'm going to just warn you the audio is a disaster in and out of here there may or may not be a moment or two where it sounds like I had a stroke and at the end I'm cutting in and out and use of an eye we just had to laugh.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: We had more issues getting this taped and so we just chalk it up to maybe the enemy doesn't want this podcast episode out, but we're putting it out either way and so just bear with us obviously not the audio quality we would like, but you will still be blessed by this I am sure of that.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so before we kick that off, I also want to let you know.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: that I am booking speaking events for next year for 2025 and as you also probably now I have a book coming out in 2025.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if your church is looking for a speaker, a women's event, a retreat, anything like that, your church, maybe an organization, a non-profit, I am definitely taking speaking events for next year and would love for you to consider that.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can reach out to me through Cynthiaganoff.com, my website, but yes, gearing up for another book release, and would love to share with your group.
• 2:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, you guys, here we go with use of a group.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk a little bit about just, is your mentoring to college kids?
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are you seeing that's effective and what's not effective when it comes to faith issues?
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's parents and I know you have young kids, but you will face this.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be like, man, am I giving the words that I want to help them without pushing them away?
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so is your mentoring to college kids?
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is effective?
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's not working?
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think what?
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: a few things come to mind, and obviously this is just my observation, but I do think that college students are at an age where they value authenticity, right?
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's one thing that is appealing about the message that they're getting is, hey, be yourself, right?
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, and, you know, the issue is that is that everything that comes natural is noise good.
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: right, but still there I think there is some truth to that.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So especially with parenting we're like parenting is a very insecure activity and you just naturally are trying to do a good job and don't realize oftentimes you're not letting your
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's hard to let your kids see your own weaknesses, you know?
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, especially when it comes to faith, I think the authenticity becomes really, really powerful when your person that they know and can trust that they can ask whatever questions.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And even if you may not have the perfect answer, it's still like, you know, there's still that kind of authenticity there.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then also inviting them to not just
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think some parents kind of settle for, hey, as long as things look good on the outside, I'm good.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the authenticity piece is like, hey, like, I actually want to encourage you to dig and to find, you know, kind of deep meaningful connections to the space that we, you know, that we, um, um, like stewarded and raised you up in as well.
• 4:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, I think I've seen, you know, students as they battle many of the questions and temptations, whatever that they find,
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: When they have that trust with their parents, that, no matter what questions I have, no matter what I'm struggling with, my parents have made it very clear that I can initiate them with authenticity, and I can expect to get an authentic response from them.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And one where they are actually honoring my autonomy, like they see me now as not just two-year-old kid who just needs to do everything they tell me to do,
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, like a co-labor in the gospel and you know what I'm saying and obviously I know parenting is much more complicated than that but I'm just seeing how that theme is very helpful for students when they're you know in college and then what's not working is once again I think it's the opposite it's you know what what maybe worked when they were younger which is just like hey just do this because I told you so we're like hey just
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the superficial, maybe just shallow answers and the shot just do this because it's, it's how you were raised and it's how, you know, I think those are the things where college is a time where they're thinking deeply about a lot of things and so they're just needs to be a pretty solid, you know, depth and meaning behind what what it is that they're doing, especially as it pretends to their faith.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not all up to us like we can plant the seeds we can we can do the best we know we are flawed individuals, but I think of your story and how the Lord was I mean you didn't have parents you don't have parents that know the Lord and he still pursued you and and brought you to his purposes and I and I just think while the power of that to just like step back from that I feel like as you you don't know the ship but you will and and about 14 or 15 years
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to drop them off of college and you're going to be like
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't teach him anything.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they know anything.
• 6:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is horrible.
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are they going to do?
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you have these moments, right?
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so you think you have all this time and then you drop off with a dormitory or like that was horrible.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: What did I do?
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And just that, yeah, you've got some time, thankfully.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, just the peace and knowing that the Lord is pursuing them and that he brings his people to him.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's ultimately their choice, whether or not they're going to listen and accept it or not.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so walking with authenticity as we,
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: do faith in our families.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a good word and not trying to make it look to candor or overly spiritualized things that are hard.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've found that with my kids too, when things would happen in the news or even with in families that we know and into
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would want to shield them from the heart if it'd be like, well, we just got to believe that God has a purpose.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know what they want to hear?
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's horrible.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand either.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know how, you know?
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I like that you're just saying that that authenticity.
• 7:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about church hurt.
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm floored by the fact that that's what you talked about to a really large gathering and that that spoke so much to my daughter.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because like I said, kind of at the beginning of
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Our talk was that I feel like church hurts one of those things you really feel later in life.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I think, man, it very much applies in more ways than I think we realize, right?
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And in good ways and maybe negative ways, in mature ways and immature ways, right?
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: heavily emphasized, high virtue, high value thing and Christian households.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so what happens is, students then become exposed to a world where everything they know about church isn't just what they see in the four walls of their church, but they're exposed to social media.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's talking about all the things that are happening in church across the world.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then they leave high school, come to college, they're exposed to every church in the city
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then they just begin to experience life as adults where they're not under the covering of their families and they're not protected from certain things they now have direct access to church people and church leadership and they're taking ownership now of the church they go to it's not just living by carously through their parents or their youth group or whatever and
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's very difficult when you know that church is meant to be valued and then your actual experience of church as you begin to own your identity as a Christian doesn't live up to maybe the experiences that you've had in junior high, high school, whatever.
• 9:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you just have a clear I think, front row view, just how messy the church can be, right?
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so having a category like preparing our college students, giving them a category, given them language to really, I think, prepare them for the inevitable.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: The church will, the church will fail you, God's people will fail you, it is human nature.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so let's have a right view of the church and an understanding of what church church is and what it isn't.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: right so that we can navigate church her in a way that actually strengthens our relationship with God and doesn't, you know, and what we don't allow the enemy to use, broken people in a church context to maybe shake our faith in a way that it wouldn't if we just had a proper understanding about what it is and what it isn't.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Does that make sense?
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, that's so good and there's so much to impact, but I'm going to keep it short on this one.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like that you're I think pride is a factor like what you're talking out like what is our pride factor and that um you know if we just had a feathers ruffled where do we feel like we were not our requests or preferences, preferences weren't on our you know like that's that's not torture right like that's just opposing views but I also like which is saying too is that like our truth and grace go together right and in
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I like that you're saying it's not church hurt.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: If someone comes to you, I'm just picking some random example is under age drinking and you're like, listen, hey, bro, that's got to stop.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's against the law and it's not, it's like, that can't become your church hurt, right?
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that your point is like, we're just speaking, biblical truth and legally over you.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or not you let that be church hurt.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now if you come into the church and there's
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: people are abusive or dismissive or other things.
• 11:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a whole different thing.
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, there's lots of churches, like find a different church, but you don't have to write out the global church because of one misstep of a local church.
• 11:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and not even even just to go step further, because I completely agree, but Just because God's people may fail you doesn't mean that God is to blame for that Right, and that was the number one point that I shared is that like, hey, church hurt is real And because it's real, we need to properly define it because if everything becomes church hurt, then nothing is, right?
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just is now just this loose
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: kind of go like, you know, like, it just, you can subjectively make it mean whatever you want.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if that's the case, then it just doesn't exist anymore.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because everything, you know, everything is shirt shirt.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: But shirt shirt is real.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And therefore, like, man, we need to actually address it and not pretend like it doesn't exist.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the Bible does not hide the fact that
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: that church hurt is real and that it's because people are broken and God is not to blame for that.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: So helping people kind of come to because when we're hurt, we're emotional, it can be very difficult and this is why I think spiritual abuse is so
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: destructive, is that you begin to have a hard time disassociating what is God and what is his people, you know, and so just remembering that, that like, yes, God's, yes, God's people will fill you, but don't run off the whole church.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't run off the global church, because it's still God's plan A for making evil like Christ in redeeming the world, but also don't run off God himself either, and we've seen that happen as well because of churchhood.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And to miss the beauty of the God or day in church because of the missteps of its people, that's a problem.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I love that you're speaking to that.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just tell us, just be able to be speaking, is Jesus speaking to church church?
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Does anything, biblical, that helps us walk out?
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh 100% yeah, and I think you can you can look at you know explicit scriptures you can just look at his life I think you just zoom out and realize that hey, you know who it is who who handed Jesus over to the Romans to be crucified Right his own people it's his own religious lead the very religious leaders that were put in place
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: to represent God to the people, to care for the people, those are the people that not only denied and rejected Jesus, but partnered with the government, to crucify and to kill him, right?
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then how did what really got the ball rolling on the crucifixion?
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was one of his closest friends, Judas, right?
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: In his inner, inner posse, right?
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so Jesus is familiar with church heard not just as a theory or a concept, but he himself experienced
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, being dying at the hands of his own, um, people, you know, and so, uh, one of the verses that came to mind, I was thinking about Psalm 55, um, verse 12 and 13, where David is or, yeah, David's just talking about, man, it's not my enemy who taunts me, right?
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be able to bear that if it was my adversary, but no, it's you, a man, my equal, my companion, my familiar friend.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right?
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like, just this idea of church hurt and being hurt by people that are entrusted to walk with you and life to care for you and life, it's not foreign in the Bible.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I also think about a Zekil 34 where God calls a Zekil to prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, right?
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he says, hey, say to them, thus says the God, ah, shepherds of Israel, right?
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Leaders of Israel who have been feeding yourselves,
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: shouldn't shepherd's feet the sheep.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you're there for.
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: God put you in place to care for his flock, right?
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the week you haven't strengthened, the sick you have not healed, the injured you have not bound up.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: He just goes on and on and on, right?
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so they were scattered and are like sheep without a shepherd.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, but then you see, Jesus come on the scene and talk about how, you know, he ministered to the crowds because they were like sheep without shepherd.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had literally drawn the connection between Israel's failure to lead and shepherd how God had entrusted them to and the negative consequences of that in that, it's the sheep that paid for it and that they were hurt and helpless and harassed.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yet that's why he came, right, to really make right what we have made wrong and how our sin is actually stained the very things that are meant to lead us to God can often lead others to God or the things that point them away from him.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: He came.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he entered into it.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not a stranger to it.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: and the Bible's not a stranger to it from the very beginning of time, this idea of the people that God calls to lead, betraying their calling and hurting the people that they're meant to help.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a foreign concept to the Bible, and yet Jesus literally stepped right into that.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And knows the feeling of that so can empathize.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as you were saying Judas, I also it made me,
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: think too that Jesus knew what Jesus was going to do and he still picked him.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's still still associated with him.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's still allowed, you know, to be a part of his disciples as group and so, you know, like he's Jesus is using the flawed and not the least of which is you and me, you're so so there we are, right?
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's wrap up with this.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and by the way, wrap up, if you people know what always happened to her to get this podcast out to my heavens, we've had coffee shop issues we've had like a mine microphone laptop is dying laptop is like you name it.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's happened over here.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just feel like the this is a message need to get out because I've never had so much trouble, but let's end with this.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's your best advice and take it wherever you want best advice for parents of high schoolers that are about to send kids to college or even parents.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: of college kids, but just as someone who's, well, much younger than us, so you are, but also you're working around them a lot.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man, it's always hard to answer questions like this.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: One is, I think you really can't underestimate, which I know most parents are doing this.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, it's not even, it's not a necessity.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, man, you're exposed to your lack of control and therefore lead you to your knees.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And therefore, to me, that's my biggest encouragement is to absolutely to pray.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: To pray for your kid and also what you're praying for them is also just as important as praying for them I think one of the things that I find that is really powerful to to pray for college students is that they catch vision for how God wants to use them Like in his greater kingdom narrative right because colleges a time where they are just they are
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: they are conditioned to consume.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's all about them, it's hey you're in college, live it up.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, this is about you setting up your life for the rest of your future.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I see that the the the the students that really go hard after Jesus are the students that are able to connect the dots.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: between their life and college and the decisions they make and the kingdom of God and it's coming on a campus and then honestly expanding throughout and you know UT University Texas say there's a slogan right what starts here changes the world and they're tapping into that over achiever mentality that you find in a lot of these students and I'm like man what a what a great vision but so small compared to
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: to the kingdom.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's one thing.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, hey, we praying for our students and your kids, my daughter still got a ways to go and I'm not ready.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not ready for it.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just praying, praying that they begin to see how God wants to use them to make an impact in his kingdom.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Another thing is encouraging them to get plugged into a local church, right, to actually plug in.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And even to go a step further is like, hey,
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: don't just plug into a local church, don't just show up, but man, find ways that you can actually begin to build relationships and let's go another step further in our generational relationships, right?
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think about you Cynthia, if the Lord had called you to a city like Austin and the Lord had called you to a church filled with bunch of college students, I know that you would see, you would see Kate in a lot of these freshman girls,
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: You would begin to like want to pour into them and mother them and and do whatever you can to to use your influence and resources to feed them and clothing them and have them, you know, and not maybe not clothing them but that but just to to to to be a part of seeing them um, thrive in college and to have a home away from home, right?
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: not just the church building that they can show up and say they tick the box and not even just a college Bible study.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a million of those, right?
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: But a community of faith that is intergenerational, right, that where they can actually be invited into somebody's home, who loves Jesus and it's like man.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was so impactful for me when I was in college and that's the experience we try and provide for a lot of these students.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those two things, the community, the community of people that students surround themselves with, both in college and intergenerational relationships, and like being able to see how the decisions that they make in college contribute to the big picture of God's kingdom.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, those two things, I think, one of some of the biggest things that can really, yeah, that just light the flame of faith.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And your students that they fall more and more and more in love with Jesus and are surrounded by people who are in love with Jesus as well.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: So So yeah, woo This is strong a strong word and okay, so if you're listening to this and you live in Austin and you have a church great If you don't have a church, you need to get into the well because it's amazing or if you have a church and you're not sure you're into that church You're gonna go the well anyway, but
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, if you have friends in Austin or you have a kid that's headed to Austin or any of the things like this is a fabulous church.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and thank you for having me.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so, so literally, overjoyed to be on this podcast, super dope that, you know, we've had Kate over at our house multiple times and had no idea that years later I'd be, you know, on her mother's podcast, so it's really great.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Kate is such a joy in a blessing to our, our church as well.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know, you know, that she's baptized, you know, girls at our church and she is someone who,
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I put two as an example of someone who is caught vision for how God wants to use them in college and there.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are generations of your like, you know, changed because of her speaking into the lives of young, single moms and how those kids now have access to a parent who loves Jesus, all because of Kate's faithfulness to plant seeds and trust God with the outcome.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So thank you.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, friend.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, a big thank you to UCF for being a part of the podcast.
• 22:08
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• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I do feel like the word he had for us was important that we were going to release it even with less than ideal audio quality.
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• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have so many fun shows coming your way this fall.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So thanks for being a part of the mesmerized family.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You're the very best.