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Episode 104: The Princess Who Became a Senator, Who Became a General, Who Became a Jedi - Leia Organa/Carrie Fisher Appreciation · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello, that. It's most things Kenobi.
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This is the podcast you're looking for.
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Hi, everyone, welcome to another episode of most things Kenobi.
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A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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I'm your host Lauren and I'm your host Leanne this week.
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We are discussing the goddess, the queen Carrie Fisher.
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Yes. And how she very, very much
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changed my life by her Princess Leia character and she just got
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her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and I am so pleased, I'm
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just sad that she's not there. Too excited.
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I know I feel like it's long overdue ways like way over.
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She's in way more movies. I'm sorry.
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But one of my favorite movies of all time, that has Carrie Fisher
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in it is The Burbs as got young 1980s, ish, Tom Hanks.
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Oh my god. There.
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It's just, I love that fucking movie and she's in it.
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I know she said, she's in so many movies.
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She surprises me. Like she was in the Blues
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Brothers. Yeah, we're just super random
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but my favorite non Star Wars and I might even like it better
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than the Star Wars. Sometimes is her and When Harry
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Met Sally, I know, I know God, I know she has some of the
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funniest lines in that movie, She delivers and it's there
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wouldn't be funny except the way she delivers them, it's like
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it's all carry. And that's the beauty of Carrie
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Fisher is That she was so effortlessly dare I say
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effervescent she just had a zest about her and I love her and it
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just even in death she carries on.
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Awesome. Oh that's very good.
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But we're honoring here this week because she's been honored
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on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and now she's there with her
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space, her space brother Chris Cause they're Luke is there so
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to speak. I loved seeing Mark at the at
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the ceremony that was really sweet to see him with Billie
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lourd and how they have this really sweet relationship.
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She called him her space Uncle, I love that you so much.
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I love that so much has it. She sprinkled glitter on the
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star and I thought it was hella appropriate.
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Carrie Carrie was giving it the old.
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Yes I am. Approve from from up above.
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Yeah, the old middle finger or the middle finger?
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Yes. More and more loving middle
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finger if you will. Yes I think I still have that
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pin you gave me at cell, not celebration at Comic-Con with
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her little, little, little finger.
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What would carry say, or what would carry do.
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And it's literally a middle finger and I fucking love it.
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I think everyone knows how much Princess Leia Changed literally
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changed my life. I wouldn't be sitting on this
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podcast. Talking about Star Wars, if it
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wasn't for how she was, portrayed it like in my young
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girl, mind as being, like the, the princess that didn't need
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rescuing, and it was so refreshing to me.
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And maybe I didn't know it at the time, you know, that she was
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a princess that didn't need rescuing, but I knew there was
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something different about her character that really resonated
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with me. I mean, I've always been Kind of
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a tomboy, kind of a loner always happy to go solo.
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Go my own way and I'm a little bit mouthy.
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So, you know, Leia / Kerry said, you know, and shout out to Gary
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Fisher. Carrie Fisher's dog with that
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crazy-ass tongue we love him too.
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Yeah, he's got quite a following on social media.
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Oh, I just thought of him like right now, but you gotta love
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you. Did she?
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She took a whip. I'd like all our interviews that
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he'd be like other couch next to her just this Tom.
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Hey, you saw likely I think it was on either the force awakens
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or The Last Jedi, like the behind-the-scenes photos and how
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happy did she look with everyone loved her on set everyone.
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Yeah and there she was with Gary.
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Look at this timing and I just love everything about her
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irreverence, you know I think Daisy ever.
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The in her we're doing an interview together and someone
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asked Daisy, they're like, what advice did Carrie give you when
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you were getting into Star Wars? And Kerry said to not burn
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through the crew. Like wildfire don't just I with
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everybody. Okay?
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I mean it was the 70s. I don't know that it's done a
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lot now or maybe it isn't. It's just done a lot quieter.
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I mean, we both read her book. Oh yes, the princess diarist.
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I would love to read her other books to it, some fat came out
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what like weeks or months before she died so close.
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Yeah, it was. And I just looked at it.
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I didn't realize she was only sixty when she died.
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She was young. Yeah, she's had it.
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Her death hit me. I mean, it stopped me in my
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tracks when I was in a store and it showed up on my phone like I
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stopped and it was one of those like, clutch.
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My Pearl have a deep breath. Yeah.
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What did I just read? I was sad for a very long time
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after she died. I think it was really
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surprising. Nobody was really expecting that
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at all. Her book was such an interesting
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Insight out like, okay. First of all, I feel like I
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always knew that she and Harrison Ford had an affair,
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like I'm being a little kid. So, how is this a sudden reveal
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in like, 2016 or whatever? I don't know.
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Because I don't know. I feel like I always do that.
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That was always public knowledge.
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I thought but this book was interesting because it was like
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her Diaries from that time filming A New Hope in
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particular. Sure.
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Yeah. And a lot of the I think
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underlying insecurity she had, which is amazing because she
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always seems seem to be so secure.
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And so I mean I guess that's part of the job is you're there
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to do a job and any she is that, you know, that she looked back
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on, you know, with her body and Hollywood, which is just
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fucking, that's a whole other topic.
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Yeah. Yeah, fact that she wasn't even,
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she wasn't thin enough for Return of the Jedi to put that
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bikini on. Like they made her lose even
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more weight. She was a small human anyway.
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Yeah, she's petite. She's short.
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It's just amazing. And you know that how that
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affects a human beings bring I mean, you know, I don't want to
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limit it to just female because there is, there is just as much
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male pressure to look a certain way and to be a certain way
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especially in Hollywood and Absalom.
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And the way she talked about it in The Princess Diaries really
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resonated with me and it still does and it's it's really
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humanizing to see your favorite character.
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Your favorite actress portraying, this strong-willed
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character and know that somewhere.
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It wasn't all perfect. It wasn't all strength.
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Every single person whether they're Saying a character or
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they are the character. They all have these intricacies
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about them that speak to. They're not Flawless.
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They're not. They have a weakness and they're
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dealing with something. And I think that's very human.
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Everyone needs to acknowledge that.
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I think, and I think it really contributed to why she was able
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to portray Leia. So she had that beautiful
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balance of being really strong, but also showing vulnerability
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in a way that was extremely believable and Normal.
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You know, like so many times in movies, there's just extreme
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representation of either a badass or your.
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Yeah, you know, overly sensitive and this was really refreshing,
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especially at this time period because there were basically
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watch any movie from the 70s and it's gross, it's pretty gross.
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Especially after the me to movement, you start to realize
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how women were just Objects in movies.
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They were like a hundred percent basically up.
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Well, I might even argue to this day Tuesday.
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Yeah. So to have Leia who is extremely
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objectified. That's not like that wasn't a
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thing with the character because she was in a gold bikini for god
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sakes and she look great. I'm going to sit here and be
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like that. She's fucking hot.
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She is she's sexy but I think women appreciate her and and
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actually men You, I don't want to just say this because she's
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also really fucking smart. Yes.
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Yes, it was, you were going exactly where I was gonna go
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because her appreciation value comes at a far deeper level
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than. Yeah, the hair and those big
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eyes and that tight body, I'll say it.
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She was she was she looked great.
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Yes, I wish I could look like that right now but you never
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catch me in an iron bikini. Let's just throw that out there.
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Sorry. Ari.
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Look that good by starving yourself thin.
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So right. But like the the fact that she
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was able to then go on and even joke about it and kind of make
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light of what is a terrible situation we put in in, in
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Hollywood, I think like, hey, either you drop this amount of
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weight, whether it's realistic or not, or you're off the movie
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when they did the same in force awakens.
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She said, she even joked about it.
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It said they only wanted about 75% of me.
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Yes. It's like they wanted her to
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lose weight, even for that movie.
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Will she look beautiful? I just tell you what, I know,
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we're jumping all over the place, but I have so many
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thoughts but I know they, I know she died.
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And I know they did the best they could with the rise of
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Skyrocket, right? But they did manage to have some
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Beautiful Moments between her and Ray, but it could have been
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so much more. And I don't say this as like
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damn it Kerry you know? Like could have been someone.
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Yeah I'm saying like just Just from the parts that we got, that
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were filmed and put together and editing teams doing editing
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things, you know, just think of the product that would have
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happened between her and Ray. I think the relationship between
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Leia and Ray was really special and we didn't even get the full
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100% is, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
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Yeah, absolutely. They could have been, I mean,
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she's such a great actress, you know?
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And I even feel like Harrison Ford has kind of always the
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same. I Him.
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But he's kind of always Harrison Ford, right?
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But I feel like Carrie and Mark in particular the older they got
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the better. They are as actors.
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Like marks performance in The Last Jedi was just fucking
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amazing. The tenderness between them and
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and, you know, guess they're brother and sister, they're
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twins. They've been through this
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galaxies together, but it's Mark and Kerry the tenderness of
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their friendship and their relationship all of those years.
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In that one moment where he says, no one's ever really gone.
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I'm gonna get tears. If the if the Last Jedi brought
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anything it was that moment and and yeah we didn't know the
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gravity of it until right she died and right that moment is
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just and and then they cut and you know the part like where
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they're still crying even though the cameras are done that's real
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shit between Kerry and Mark and I love that.
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Yeah, their relationship in particular think is really
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special because they were Kindred Spirits.
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I think, like right from the beginning, they're both super
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goofy. They both kind of like, because
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she came from Vaudeville, right? Like her mother was Debbie
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Reynolds and no head this personality and Mark is just
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goofy that way. Anyway, so so wild to think that
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her mother is Debbie Reynolds. Like, I know every time I watch
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Singing in the Rain, I can. Yeah.
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Gary's Little face and Debbie Reynolds.
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It's so wild. I just, oh God, it's like
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cinematic history. These people that were talking
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about, you know, I know. But yeah, I just think that them
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together. I mean, there's all these the
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behind-the-scenes footage of them, right.
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Anytime, you see them together? They're laughing.
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He said he would do anything to make her laugh because she was
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so funny. He wanted, he felt like he
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achieved something by making her laugh and that's why there's
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that. Pink bathrobe picture you
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talking. Return of the Jedi?
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Yes, like here's what it a bigger laugh.
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So he put on her bathrobe. And doesn't he does it, isn't
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there that scene? I fucking love it.
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We're carry hands. Him a beer up in the X-Wing
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says, like, what is happening? I need to know, like, the entire
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context of everything in that moment.
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I love that, that could have some classic in Star Wars.
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Leia could actually give an alcoholic beverage to Luke and
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be like, don't forget to come back.
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Drink responsibly, you know, and then like off he flies.
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I know. Well, their friendship is is
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really endearing I think and it may be more.
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So, I guess because they well I guess we don't know behind the
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scenes, but supposedly, they never had a relationship.
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She even says in her book. There's a part of her diary
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where she said, maybe I should have had a relationship with
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Mark because then it would have meant something because she felt
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like I know Harrison Ford was kind of just using her Her, and
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she felt like, Mark would have actually cared about her.
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I just thought that was a that when I read that in the book, I
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like close the book, and just sat there for a minute, I was
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like, think of how history could have been different way
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different way, way different. But I think it's great that it
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happened with her and Han and not with her.
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And I'm sorry. I keep calling them by their
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character names. Damn it Is how real it is to me.
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I'm glad it didn't happen with her and Mark because it's one of
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those things we're better off as friends is better in the long
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run and look what happened. Her and Mark stayed
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quote-unquote together. Yeah, forever, exactly.
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There's a level of respect, they're not that Harrison and
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her didn't have respect but you know you kind of dance around
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all of that Hanky. Panky shit when someone's
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married and all the stuff and it's All you know what I mean?
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And people are just grown folks doing grown folks things on
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movie sets, whatever. But like, I'm not gonna comment
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on any of it. Is what it is, it happened.
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She said it, whatever. But I'm glad that she didn't do
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it with Mark because it preserved this like whole
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something between them. Yeah, I think that's a real
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thing. I mean, Julie, Andrews says, the
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same thing about Christopher Plummer because when they were
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in The Sound of Music, they were both very attracted to each
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other. But she was married with a baby.
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He was going through a divorce so they never hooked up but they
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stayed friends till they were like 100 years old like a
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literally and she even said she thinks they were good friends
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because they never had a relationship and it preserved
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their friendship. Like you said, they could stay
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friends forever. That was yes, totally totally.
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So yeah, I think that's a. I think you're totally right
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with that. It's, it's It actually gave us
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more by giving us less. Yes there is less and less is
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more. Is that a gray?
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Is that an area of gray that we harkening back to?
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Yeah, I liked our last episode. That was fun.
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So I want to talk about Billie. Lourd at the hall of fame speech
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that she gave for Carrie because I want to read a part of it
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because when I listened to her talk I thought it was.
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I thought it was like Billy is lovely.
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I want nothing but the best for her forever.
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I love that she portrayed Leia. Like, inform when it was what is
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in the rise of Skywalker in that duel where they both have their
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masks on and their training her and Leia and Luke That was
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really Lords actually, Billy, Lord's body and then they
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superimposed. Yeah, it was.
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It was very nice. I love it.
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I love doll. Who did who did Luke was that
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his son? I actually can't remember.
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I don't know who said that be, I was more interested in that is
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Billy, but here's what she said, during the ceremony, and I will
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quote her Quote, I realized that Leia is more than just a
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character. She's a feeling.
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She is strength. She is wit.
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She is femininity at its finest. She knows what she wants and she
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gets it. She doesn't need anyone to
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rescue her because she wrecked rescues herself and even rescues
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The Rescuers and no one could have played Her Like My Mother.
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And she actually goes on to say that she is more than Princess
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Leia. She is Carrie Fisher like, and
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that those two things together, I just loved every second of
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that because that is why I love Princess Leia.
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She's which she's femininity, she strength.
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She's a rescuer, and a rescue of herself and I just love her.
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She said, she changed how I looked at sci-fi.
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Characters forever and like female leads.
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Yeah, for sure. And the fact that she rescues
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The Rescuers, I love that. Yeah.
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I think it's, it's what a whole generation of women needed.
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Honestly. Oh truly, and I'm sure it was an
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insane burden for Kerry to carry.
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It was a lot less. You know, people people have
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strong feelings about their Heroes and then they may be meet
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them. Em and put all their feelings on
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that person and it's, you know, it means a lot to you to say
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that to your hero. But also, they're like Carrie
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probably heard this stuff all the time for decades.
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It's a lot that's a lot. It is, it's a lot emotionally to
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carry other people's stories, you know.
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And so that's why she eventually had to accept that Princess Leia
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was her. And she was Princess Leia, like,
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you couldn't divide the to bring more.
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Maybe she didn't want to. And now my God, we have the
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Kenobi show who added yet another layer to the love of
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Princess Leia because we got to meet her through Vivian.
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We got to see her speak. So fluently and and eloquently
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at Celebration. Isn't she just she would love
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her Kerry Wood. Oh she would and she she has
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that look to she definitely looks like Carrie you can see
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young Leia in that face. So, to have the full package was
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like, she looks like her but she also has the spirit of her as
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well. That, I think she did a
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beautiful job. I loved her performance.
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And didn't they say it? Took her like audition like
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eight weeks or something. Six to eight weeks or something.
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Yeah, before lot of auditioning, that's a lot for a child, but
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that tells you how important they knew that it would be to
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get it right. Yes, I think it was a lie.
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That is a job that would be very intimidating.
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Oh God not only is this one of the most iconic characters in
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all of Cinema but it's also one of the most iconic actresses.
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Yeah, in all of Cinema. And so to cast her as a child
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that is a lot and you don't want to fuck it up because this is
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also one of the most brutal fan bases through they will not just
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attack the character, they'll attack the actor.
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So I know but We've got to do better.
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I hope we're doing better. I mean please, but it's, I
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thought I remember sitting at Celebration and watching the
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look back at Kenobi panel and Vivian was talking, and I'm,
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she's hitting it. She's hitting all the points,
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right? Why the characters like this?
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And why? She understood the character
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from this point of view and I'm like, she's too damn young to
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know like, you know, this about Princess Leia.
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I'd like she's Either very, very, very self-aware and aware
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of the larger concept of Star Wars and and Princess Leia as a
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whole or or she's just memorizing stuff.
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I don't want to discredit her. I think she gets it, but to be
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that young and to get it she does have a photographic memory
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though which is that to raise E, I can't even imagine what that
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must be like. She, they said, they would give
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her a page of dialogue. She would look at it once and be
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able to do it. Whereas, you and was like trying
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to read and keep Over there the seasoned veteran?
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Yeah, it's like wait a second. Hold up, kid, I gotta memorize
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this. I kind of love that it's very
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open. Want to come.
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Now, let me read a few of these lines before we proceed.
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I've been a re-watching. Just parts of the Kenobi show
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and he's so good. They're both so good.
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We should do a re-watch its time.
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It's been a year, it's been a year.
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Yeah, it's been a year, which to do it.
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Re-watch episode. You should oh.
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Why not cause more pain when we've already lived through it.
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Let's go for some more. Please go For Broke.
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What would you say your favorite?
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Princess Leia moment. Is that is a really good
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question because there's so many good ones.
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I know it's really, that was an unfair question.
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I didn't, I didn't prepare you for it or sitting in a nice.
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I love her. And I mean, I love her all the
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time, but I love her and Empire Strikes Back.
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Has the beginning, she's just like so fucking bad.
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She's giving Han a hard time and just like not giving him a
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fucking inch on how she's cranky about him and then all the way
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up to then changing. And like as a feel a little
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cringy about Empire Strikes Back when Han kisses her while she's
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telling him not to because well, yeah, we Yes means no in the
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George Lucas universe. But yeah, to have her Then be so
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vulnerable to say, I love you to him.
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Hmm. That is one of my favorite
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moments because she's, she does it so beautifully.
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This is why I love Carrie Fisher, right?
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Because she can be really tough, but then she's able to show that
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vulnerability in her vocal inflection and that's why I love
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her and would Harry Met Sally because she delivers that line
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about the Wagon Wheel, coffee table, sincerely, and that's
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what makes it funny. I believe I like think Going to
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say something, loving and affectionate, and then talks
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about the stupid coffee table, right?
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That's why she's such a good actress.
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And yeah, I love that scene. What about you?
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It's I mean, that one's right up there.
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The, the, the I love you. I really love her opening
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moments in A New Hope. Just the smack talk the SAS.
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You know what? You think?
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I do stench when I was brought on board.
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Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's just if you just think about
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Bout it from a Skywalker point of view.
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How on fucking point that is with her father and he's
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standing there and he doesn't even know.
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It's his kid. How the fuck?
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Anyway, I just love the sassiness and the fact that she
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can her fucking world blew up. And she, yeah, carries on and I
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love any moment. I really love.
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There isn't like a giant big moment.
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I guess the I love you. Moment is the big giant moment
24:44
but I love when she's handing out the medals Because She Looks
24:47
So Divine, a true princess moment, you know.
24:52
Yeah, because up until that point, we've only heard about
24:54
her status and then we get to see her, but I love the tender
24:57
moments in Empire Strikes Back with Luke when she hears him and
25:01
he calls to her through the Oh yeah.
25:04
She's in the my God. How did I forget about that?
25:08
I love that part so much. I wish we had more of that and
25:11
then she takes care of them and she's with him and start with a
25:15
hug. Yeah, the he first comes on
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shit. Yes, there's a familial Bond
25:20
there that were starting to get more of Empire Strikes, Back as
25:23
a whole. It's fantastic.
25:25
She and honestly that moment where they just show her face
25:29
and she's feeling Luke in the forest, like she is so gorgeous.
25:33
No gosh it she is lit. So beautifully and like just
25:37
everything about it is that lady has just everyone looks the
25:42
lighting and that movie. Yes, the the part in the cryo
25:45
chamber, where she says that to haunt her face, makes her eyes
25:50
the way it's lit. Her makes her eyes look.
25:52
Even bigger and sadder. Yeah, I always give credit to
25:56
actors and actresses who can act with their eyes and they don't
25:59
have to say anything. I don't know how they do it.
26:02
Yeah. I'm such a verbal.
26:05
Mm, mm, odor. I guess, is that?
26:08
Like, I emote quite verbally, shocked, everybody.
26:13
But like, but II just give so much credit to actors and
26:18
actresses who can do it with their eyes and even Vivian as a
26:21
child had it. I mean, she's I hope she grows
26:24
up and does fantastic things that I hope we see her again and
26:28
things. That would be like, oh, that's a
26:29
little Leia. That's all right.
26:30
I know, I know I wonder if she'll Ever do any more Star
26:34
Wars. As she gets older she could only
26:36
if they do it right. Yeah.
26:41
But you know, the quote that kills me and it kills you to
26:45
from the Kenobi series when Obi-Wan gets down on her level.
26:48
And that last episode, whose favorite scene was that?
26:50
That was a human's favorite. See humans favorite?
26:52
Yeah. Yes.
26:53
When he said he was sobbing uncontrollably, in the the audio
26:57
Booth or whatever. Well I'm going to read it
26:59
because we all know the quote by now and we've read it before.
27:03
The show, but think about these descriptors that Obi-Wan uses
27:08
for Leia. Think of it was Carrie Fisher in
27:10
mind. So let me read it.
27:12
Princess Leia Organa, you are wise, Discerning kind-hearted.
27:16
These are the qualities that came from your mother, but you
27:19
are also passionate fearless and forthright.
27:22
And these are gifts from your father.
27:24
Those are exact descriptors for Kari.
27:28
Yeah, they sued that suits her perfectly and it's like chicken
27:31
and egg Carrie Fisher. Is Leia Organa, or yes, or
27:35
Ghana. Carrie Fisher?
27:36
Or are they just one? That's such a good point because
27:40
she, she would not have been the same if played by any other
27:44
actress. Yeah, there is no other person
27:46
that could play Leia Organa, Skywalker, solo and who the
27:56
fuck? Who the fuck?
27:57
Let's close with this. Who the fuck it's buried with
28:00
their ashes? In a Prozac pill container.
28:03
I love her. I love you Carrie Fisher from
28:08
someone who also takes anti-anxiety and antidepressant
28:12
medications. I love you.
28:23
Our listener question. This week is outside of Star
28:27
Wars. What is your favorite Carrie
28:29
Fisher role? It can be movie, show anything.
28:33
Thing let us know because we told you ours.
28:36
Yeah. I mean she's even did a lot of
28:38
voiceover work to. Yeah, I could qualify.
28:40
Let us know your favorite non Star.
28:42
Wars, Carrie Fisher work. We'd love to read it next week
28:46
on the show. Speaking of next week.
28:50
Next week we are going to dive back into some Star Wars
28:54
literature. Yeah we're gonna discuss two
28:59
more short stories from a certain point of view.
29:02
The Empire Strikes Back addition we haven't picked them yet so we
29:05
can't tell you which ones they're going to be but it's
29:08
going to be to that. We haven't covered.
29:09
If you want to listen to our previous episode about it you
29:12
can go back through our archives.
29:13
We did two previously and they were freakin awesome.
29:17
Yeah. I'm very excited to dive back
29:21
into this short Story collection.
29:23
So we'll talk about that next week.
29:26
Last week's episode, we talked about the controversial gray.
29:31
Jedi and what's funny is we got a comment from our friend and
29:35
Patron Kevin who actually said he didn't know too much about
29:39
the topic of a gray. Jedi only that it was
29:41
controversial. And then he listened to the
29:44
episode and said, he really enjoyed the topic and learned a
29:47
lot. So it's always nice to hear that
29:51
we're bringing something new to the table even if it's not new
29:54
to those people and it Doesn't have to be controversial.
29:57
We're just out here. He, I think he compared it to
30:00
Pizza. He said that not Everyone likes
30:02
every topping but it's still pizza and everyone loves pizza.
30:05
So I was like, I ignore that that delicious analogy.
30:10
So thank you. Kevin.
30:12
We were glad to bring some gray to the light for you.
30:16
We also got an email from our Patron mishaela and she brought
30:20
up some really cool points about our Sokka that she wanted to
30:22
make. So she said that everything
30:25
about Ahsoka symbolism screams gray and balance to her.
30:30
At some example, she gave she gives our Ahsoka has two
30:34
lightsabers. Hmm, her code name is fulcrum,
30:38
which is brilliant, because a fulcrum, is the point of balance
30:42
perfect in a scale or, you know, a mechanism that is a center
30:47
point of balance and her lightsabers are white.
30:51
And she made the point that a lot of people think that white
30:54
is a sign of purity. Yeah, but also it's just so
30:57
right because this is so true in graphic design.
31:00
I talk about this all the time. White is not the absence of
31:04
colors. It is the presence of all
31:06
colors, right? Yes.
31:09
So it's so big penis. White light sabers means that
31:12
she represents all things like all possibilities.
31:16
I think that is so freaking cool.
31:18
She gets those white light sabers after everything that
31:21
goes on with her leaving the order and the whole vampire
31:25
takes over. All this stuff.
31:26
So, like, it's perfect mishaela perfect.
31:29
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win, May the force be with you always.