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The Best (And Worst) Episodes Of Season 20 · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: Four Finger Discounted.
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  Speaker 2: Cities. Welcome to four Finger discount With this week, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be wrapping up season twenty of The Simpsons
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  Speaker 2: Andando and I am guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we are going from regular definition to high standard
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  Speaker 1: definition to high definition.
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  Speaker 2: Yes we say that right. I actually noticed it when
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  Speaker 2: I was watching, and I noticed when the TV falls
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  Speaker 2: off the wall, right, it's got the red, white and
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  Speaker 2: yellow cables. Ah, so it's not an HDTV. Did we
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  Speaker 2: have HDMI cables in two thousand and nine whenever this
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  Speaker 2: season was?
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  Speaker 1: I get the feeling that probably they did have those
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  Speaker 1: in some kind of transitional period. Yeah, I mean they're
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  Speaker 1: still around. I've still got bungles of the red, yellow
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  Speaker 1: and white wires or whatever sort of lurking around the house.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not even going to use these again.
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  Speaker 1: But then I've got that man thing of like, don't
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  Speaker 1: throw it out.
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  Speaker 2: I need it. I keep so many cables and I'll
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  Speaker 2: have three of them the draw and I go, never
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  Speaker 2: have too many. Oh yeah, I'll put another one in there.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that video?
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  Speaker 1: It's clearly a father and son or something, and you
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  Speaker 1: know the son is putting.
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  Speaker 2: A bed together.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, if only we had a piece of
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  Speaker 1: wood that was kind of diagonal. It has to be
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  Speaker 1: like four inches by three inches, and the dad just
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  Speaker 1: go runs down ship rummsy boxes.
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  Speaker 2: Finally got it. They are so happy when it's like,
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  Speaker 2: I've been given this thing for twenty year, I've had
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  Speaker 2: a need for it exactly. Yeah, so we're we're hoarders
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  Speaker 2: in that regard. But as long as the fits in
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  Speaker 2: the one draw though out of the way before in.
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  Speaker 1: A draw in a box underneath the desk or something
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  Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, no, I'd never I hadn't really sort
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  Speaker 1: of paid attention to the fact that they had the
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  Speaker 1: wires coming off the HDTV so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: I got the feeling that before we all went with
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  Speaker 2: the cable, it's full HD that requires the HD MY cables.
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  Speaker 2: It could be full HD resolution of the ninety because
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  Speaker 2: because HD was just it's just seven twenty, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: It was my understanding when we started this podcast that
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  Speaker 2: there will be no science. I think it's just seven
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  Speaker 2: to twenty P and then ten ADPs. Maybe that requires
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  Speaker 2: the HDMO cable. Either way, the way it looks a
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  Speaker 2: lot sharper it does, indeed. Yeah, And I think the
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  Speaker 2: Simpsons does improve. I think it needed to upgrade the
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  Speaker 2: quality of the video the animation as well. I think
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  Speaker 2: people saw us up they go, no, it's not the
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  Speaker 2: same as the old animation, and blah blah blah, and
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  Speaker 2: what we fear change, we do fear change. And I
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  Speaker 2: was firmly in that category for a long time. And
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  Speaker 2: then I had kids and I put the old ones on,
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  Speaker 2: and the kids go, why these ones don't look as
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  Speaker 2: good as the other ones? And I go, you're right,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, as nostalgic as I am for these
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  Speaker 2: classic animations, and it's great, and the idea was hand drawn.
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  Speaker 2: It's classic cartoon's classic animation. The HD Simpsons does look better.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, much easier on the eye.
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  Speaker 1: Even someone like me who grew up on the vintage
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  Speaker 1: stuff will has a real appreciation for classic Simpsons.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'll look at some of the old episodes and go like,
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  Speaker 1: do I need to wipe my glasses or something, because
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  Speaker 1: they seem sort of fuzzy and out of focus and
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  Speaker 1: as we say, not as sharp.
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  Speaker 2: I think season four, maybe season four, maybe season five,
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  Speaker 2: whether their eyes seemed too big for the entire season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think personally, my favorite design of the Simpsons is
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  Speaker 2: season seven eight ish. It's my favorite ear of the
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  Speaker 2: Simpsons as well. I just think that just they found
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  Speaker 2: the right balance of cartoonish but also just realism, and
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  Speaker 2: just the animation. It's clean, it's nice, it's tidy, and
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  Speaker 2: then anything beforehand, it's it's good, but it's it's still time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And a lot of people won't watch the
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  Speaker 2: first season because I think the animation is just terrible,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not in that regal. If the content is good,
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  Speaker 2: it's good, right. I'm sure there's many good episodes in
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  Speaker 2: that first season of the Simpsons, but it's just a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Now if you look at the HD Simpsons, it does
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  Speaker 2: look better. Yeah, oh yeah. I would be intrigued to
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  Speaker 2: see and I know people have said this is blasphemy.
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  Speaker 2: I would be intrigued to see some of the classic
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  Speaker 2: era episodes like remastered and or redrawn in HD. People
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  Speaker 2: are saying, you can't do that, you wouldn't never do that,
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  Speaker 2: it's terrible. I'd just be in greaged to see what
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  Speaker 2: it would look like.
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  Speaker 1: Well, provided you didn't absolutely throw out the original like okay,
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  Speaker 1: whether they're in the bin or they've been deleted from
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  Speaker 1: the hard Drivers.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, no, may get a fun option on
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  Speaker 2: the DVD or something, experiment. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 2: they did do it in the Treuse of Horror simpson
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  Speaker 2: Land that Matt Salmon wrote, where they were at the
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  Speaker 2: Simpsons World at the theme park, and it was they
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  Speaker 2: redrew Mars the monorail a little moment from that in
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  Speaker 2: the HD, and it looked cool. It was weird to
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  Speaker 2: take it in because it sounds the same but it
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  Speaker 2: looks different. Well. Yeah, as we often say about you know,
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  Speaker 2: say the Star Wars special istions, it's like someone doodling
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  Speaker 2: on your dreams. Yeah, because you're all so used to well,
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  Speaker 2: this is the way that story goes, so this is
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  Speaker 2: the way it looks, and this is the way it sounds.
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  Speaker 2: And if you sharpen it up audio wise, visual wise,
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  Speaker 2: you might be going, wait a minute, no, no, no, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you feel a bit of cognitive dissonance in your in
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  Speaker 2: your head and in your heart. No, I'd be all
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  Speaker 2: for them doing that, yeah, provided you still kept the
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  Speaker 2: originals or pick five classics or something. Margress the monorail.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really think it's an interesting thing. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a really good idea. Even the first episode, I'd
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  Speaker 2: love to see Shorts is roasting on open fire in HD. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: i'd love to see them do that. And maybe because
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  Speaker 2: you've got the wide screen, you can add in visual
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  Speaker 2: gags in the background things, making it a making a
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  Speaker 2: modern version of the original.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, No, I honestly think they should do it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it'd be a really good gesture to veteran
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  Speaker 1: Simpsons fans. And you know, it's bridging the gap between
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  Speaker 1: young and the young, the old, the older than you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm just going through a face
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  Speaker 2: at the moment where I'm realizing. It was about a
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  Speaker 2: month ago I realized I'm getting really out of touch
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  Speaker 2: with what young people enjoy. I realized I'm getting to
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  Speaker 2: that stage where I'm getting I'm older now, right, And
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  Speaker 2: the kids were asking they want to watch this show
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  Speaker 2: called K Pop Demon Hunters, and I was like on Netflix, yah,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, you're not watching that shit, no, commit
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  Speaker 2: listen to the songs BLA. I'm like no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you're fucking putting this stuff on. And then I was like,
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  Speaker 2: yesterday in the car went can we listen to it please?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like whatever, and I put it on.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like it, but I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: it's important to be on the pulse and know what
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  Speaker 2: kids are enjoying. Well, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about popular culture on our very shows and
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  Speaker 1: the Full Finger Disco Network. It's The Simpsons, South all
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Now these shows are still.
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  Speaker 1: Going and they're still appealing to well, they're appealing to
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  Speaker 1: current audiences young, yes, all that kind of stuff. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean as much as we're kind of like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it was great back in the nineties or the two
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  Speaker 1: thousands or whatever, it's like, eventually we're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to catch up to stuff that was happening in the
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  Speaker 1: twenty tens or the twenty twenties or whatever. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's important to as difficult as it may be for
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  Speaker 1: old gentlemen like myself getting older, there's younger people Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, no, no, you do have to keep your
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  Speaker 1: finger on the pulse.
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  Speaker 2: It's tough though, it really is. Yeah. Apparently ca Pop
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  Speaker 2: Demon I was just really good. I looked it up
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  Speaker 2: and it said not suitable for kids under ten because
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of death and that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's I think it's more for adolescens. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but it's well, all the kids are talking about the moment,
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  Speaker 2: but you didn't like the song, apparently. I was listening
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  Speaker 2: to some other podcasts were telling the song's actually kind
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  Speaker 2: of bangers. I listened to a really good K pop songs,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm not into that, and I'm just like
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  Speaker 2: one song just blended into the other and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this just feels it's just not my style. But I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so this is what the kids are listening to. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I need to make sure I'm aware. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be that uncool dad. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be that guys, you're not listening to new stuff, listen
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  Speaker 2: to the stuff from the nineties. You've talked about it
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  Speaker 2: before in the past, where it's important that you don't
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  Speaker 2: just make your kids listen and watch the stuff from
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  Speaker 2: your childhood, because then they will become unpopular because like, no,
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  Speaker 2: we're into this shit, that's what this is today, and
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  Speaker 2: that they'll they'll get left behind. Yeah, yeah, there's I've
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it many times. The story on the Onion, that's
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  Speaker 2: what you're talking about. It.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a parent raise his child and pop culture
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  Speaker 1: die that will make child immediately unpopular. Yes, yeah, you've
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  Speaker 1: got the parents sort of thrusting. I think it's talking
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  Speaker 1: heads remain in lives, like listen to this, No.
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  Speaker 2: No, let them enjoy modern stuff. But also I think
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  Speaker 2: if you can, if you if your kids can be
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  Speaker 2: aware of what's popular now and also understand and enjoy
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  Speaker 2: stuff in the past, that's a great blend.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're someone who wants to raise your
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  Speaker 1: kids in a cultural or artistic sort of environment, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to show on the through line. It's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're like k pop Demon Hunters. I'm guessing it might
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  Speaker 1: have been inspired by something. Oh you know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: song from k pop Demon Huns that sounds a bit
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  Speaker 1: like sugar Rush from Recke at Ralph for instance. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: listen to that, and then you know what, they might
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  Speaker 1: have a link to something from the nineties or the
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  Speaker 1: eighties or whatever. And yes, yeah, you're not doing it
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  Speaker 1: as homework, but you're saying this was influenced by this,
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  Speaker 1: that influences that influences this. It's all part of a
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  Speaker 1: continuum and it's just an expansion of their education. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's important. Yeah, and just like any back to
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  Speaker 1: the Simpsons. When people say modern Simpsons are crap, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like, yes, it's not in the same quality,
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  Speaker 1: But I am telling you, I put my kids in
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  Speaker 1: front of that TV. They'll watch classic Simpsons, they love it.
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  Speaker 1: But they will also sit there and just binge wash
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  Speaker 1: modern Simpsons and they enjoy that as well. You know,
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  Speaker 1: So just be aware, don't be an old fight duddy
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  Speaker 1: shaking your fist at the cloud.
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  Speaker 2: HD. Simpsons is not might be made for you, but
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  Speaker 2: it's made for somebody, and it's my kids generation.
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  Speaker 1: I get the feeling that when The Simpsons actually made
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  Speaker 1: the joke about old man yells at cloud they weren't
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  Speaker 1: endorsing yelling at clouds kind of like, yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: what you do when you get sort of stuck in
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  Speaker 1: your way.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you look like.
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  Speaker 1: You do something silly like get out of that. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: don't do it.
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  Speaker 2: No, don't do it.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, I'm not saying that someone of my age or
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  Speaker 1: even if your vines to go around saying whoa that
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  Speaker 1: was fire, because well, don't do that. Yeah, But at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, be yeah, open the fact that, like
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  Speaker 1: there may be some good stuff out there. Now this
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  Speaker 1: season here, I'm not gonna lie. This was the hardest
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  Speaker 1: for me to pick a top five, not because there
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  Speaker 1: were so many good ones, because I struggled to remember
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the early ones. I think because we've
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  Speaker 1: dragged this season out a bit more with sort of
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  Speaker 1: reviews and that kind of thing. So it's been a
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  Speaker 1: long top those first couple of four or five episodes,
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  Speaker 1: I went, what the hell are they about?
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  Speaker 2: Again? So I had to go back, and when I
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  Speaker 2: went through my notes, I went, oh, yeah, I really
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed that one, really enjoyed that one. So I picked
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  Speaker 2: my top five. It's going to be in no particular order. Likewise, yes,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna try and guess your top five now.
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  Speaker 2: So let me just get up the Simpsons season twenty.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't done it yet. Simpson's Season twenty A quick
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  Speaker 2: skim through. I reckon your top five will be in
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  Speaker 2: no particular order. I reckon you'll have sex pires and
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  Speaker 2: idiot scrapes, so treoso horror is left out. Yes, may
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  Speaker 2: be dangerous curves, mypods and boomsticks. How the test was one,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say Waverly Hills nine a two to
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  Speaker 2: one do Okay, go what do you think my top five?
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  Speaker 1: My five I've got down for you again, sex pis
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  Speaker 1: and idiot scrapes. How the test was one in the
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  Speaker 1: name of the Grandfather any teeny maya mo and coming
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  Speaker 1: to Homemerica. How many did I get it for you?
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  Speaker 2: You'll find out at the end of the episode. We
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  Speaker 2: gotta go through it. I guess we do, yes, So
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  Speaker 2: start with one of yours, one of your top five.
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  Speaker 1: One of my top five is Homer and Lisa Exchange
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  Speaker 1: cross Words.
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  Speaker 2: Now I usually had that in my five, but you
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  Speaker 2: threw one out there just then to me, and I
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  Speaker 2: want you know what, I'm going to swap home around
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  Speaker 2: this exchange Crosswords and put in one of the ones
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  Speaker 2: that you just said. So you tell me what you
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  Speaker 2: liked about Homer on Leasa Exchange cross Words, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you. Well, for me, it was mainly what stuck
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  Speaker 2: at was I love gildgunders and being good at something
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  Speaker 2: and having a heel. That was cool.
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  Speaker 1: That is good, You're right, mainly just because I'm a
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  Speaker 1: word nerd. Yeah, I like crosswords. I like the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they sort of gave a shout out to the
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  Speaker 1: likes of Will Shorts.
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  Speaker 2: And good guest stars at the end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's I won't say that it's
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  Speaker 1: necessarily what you expect from the Simpsons, but sometimes it's good.
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  Speaker 1: When it's always great. When hey we got the star
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  Speaker 1: de Zure sort of to go back to what we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about, Oh we have Billy Eilish on board,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, Wow, you still got a fair bit of cloud.
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  Speaker 1: You've still got a fair bit of relevance in that
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  Speaker 1: regard that someone like one of the biggest stars in
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  Speaker 1: the world, one of the biggest pop stars in the world,
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  Speaker 1: is going to go, yeah, I'll be part of the Simpsons, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: But when you can ye get in names who are
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  Speaker 1: rock stars among a certain type of person like Will.
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  Speaker 2: Shorts, I like mel Reels. Yeah, that's pretty great that
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  Speaker 2: you want to do it that way.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it was just Yeah, mainly, I like
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  Speaker 1: what you said about Gil having a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: heel turn as well. I mean, there's only so long
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  Speaker 1: that a character can be a punching bag. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you need a little bit of a worm turn moment,
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  Speaker 1: even if they even if that turn is a heel turn.
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  Speaker 2: I think he needed this for me because I didn't
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  Speaker 2: like him after Kill Gil volume one and two. There
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  Speaker 2: was that absolutely, Yeah, I know he was a bit
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  Speaker 2: of a well a moocher, a moocher and a prick. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and willingly being a mucher as well. It wasn't just
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  Speaker 2: he was pathetic and he need he was down and
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  Speaker 2: his luck. It was Oh no, he's just being a moocher. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's right, Yeah, taking advantage, taking advantage. Yeah, you think
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  Speaker 2: that after the life that he's lived and the losses
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  Speaker 2: that he's had to be like h but then maybe
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  Speaker 2: after that situation is probably oh okay, no, he maybe
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  Speaker 2: he would take advantage. Maybe that would sort of poison him.
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  Speaker 1: Look, it was again it was it sort of ran
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  Speaker 1: along familiar tracks, the whole exchange cross words thing with
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  Speaker 1: the Homer release and not quite understanding each other.
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  Speaker 2: But by the ends, oh yeah they at the end
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  Speaker 2: didn't that's right. Yeah, yeah, which was with the money
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  Speaker 2: he could he bet against her, that's right, which is.
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  Speaker 1: A nice enough touch. It's sort of Laura diminishing returns
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  Speaker 1: in some ways, like how many times can he go
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  Speaker 1: back to this particular daughter? Yeah, daddy daughter kind of done.
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  Speaker 1: It was sick of margin Homer being annoyed with each other.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to lease to one another but no, And
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: also had an appearance by a guy that I really like,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Thompson from the Canadian comedy troupe Kids in the Hall,
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  Speaker 1: So anytime he shows up pretty happy about that. So yeah, look,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a kind of a fun episode.
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  Speaker 1: I know we're not doing this in a particular order,
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  Speaker 1: but it's probably sort of down the list of of
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  Speaker 1: my top five, but it was one that I liked.
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  Speaker 2: Was the one that I've replaced it with. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to throw in any teeny Mo. Yeah. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: Moe is probably one of the best handled characters in
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  Speaker 2: modern seasons or in the more modern seasons that we've
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  Speaker 2: done so far. Yeah, I think they give him real
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: empathy for others. He's more considerate when he needs to be.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: He still has classic Mo moments, but I think overall,
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: like this one. In particular, this was Mo being a
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: genuinely good person and he wanted to be better, and
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: he made the effort to not be make the obvious
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: jokes because of Maya's height and whatnot, because she was
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: a little person, and even when he knew she was
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: a little person, that's like, you know what, this person
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: is beautiful on the inside as well as the outside.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: She's a great person. She loves me, and the fact
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: that she loves me, I'm just only give her all
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: of me as well in return.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it goes to what we were saying about Gill
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: as well. There's only so long a character can be
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: the punching bag or the whipping boy. You've got to
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: give him a win every once in a while, or
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: you've got to show a little bit more about him now.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: I think for Mo over the course of the show
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: up to this season and maybe beyond, it's like, oh, well,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: he's wildly inappropriate, or he's just self loathing or whatever,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: basically the butt of the joke, gradually gradually gradually throughout
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: the course of the show, this showing oh no, look,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: he's good at heart, even though it takes a while
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: for that to sort of reach the surface, and he
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: will merely sort of trip himself up or be his
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: own worst enemy. I think this was a really good
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: episode in terms of like showing the best parts of himself,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: all the really good parts of himself, and yeah, allowing
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: those to outweigh what he does wrong. Either consciously or unconsciously,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: it's on my list as well.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah for me. You know, when he makes the jokes
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: at her expense, when I think it's as we proposed
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: to her, maybe I'm not too sure he's at her place.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: That wasn't him going, I'll finally can make these jokes.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: He was like, Oh, okay, we're cool. Now we can
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: make these jokes. It's not like he's been sitting on
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: it and wanting to do it. No, No, this is
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: something that we talked about. When we talk about it
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: was over the fact that you know, when you reach
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: a stage of comfort and confidence with so we can
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: far in front of each other now, oh yeah, that's it.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the first kiss, first fart thing. Yeah, But that
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: you can take the piss out of one another, yeah,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: and do it in ways is like, I know this
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: is your sensitive spot, but you should be confident enough
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: with me as I am confident enough with you and
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: comfortable enough with you. That's like I'll kneel your insecurities
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But you can do the same to
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: me again because you know that if anyone else ever
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: did this to you, I'd break their neck because exactly.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: But if he's not when someone mocks where you're from
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: or whatever. It's like, I can mock one from you're
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: not from, you can from man, we can we can
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: talk shit. Yeah you say nothing. Yeah. But in that
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: moment though, he did go a little bit too hard.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: But that's just MO because he's not used to being
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: in this situation.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, it's an absolute sort of rush
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: of emotion, you know, it's when you first fall in
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: love with someone. It's yeah, it's kind of like, oh,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: it's almost like you can take it in exhale.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, And he goes a little bit too far
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: when he's going to try and shorten himself to make
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: her feel it's like he just goes too far trying
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: to fix things, which is classic MO, and then her
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: leaving him and him just going you know what, at
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: least it's like you said, it's better to have been
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: loved than to have never been loved at all.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Now what's the lines like I can't build
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: my I can't live in good intentions? He had nothing
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: but good intentions here. Yeah, he shouldn't have gone as
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: far as he did, but he didn't do it from
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: a negative place. He did it from a positive place.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that was probably the main thing I liked
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: about any teeny Mi mo. I think I said, was
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: on your list? Yes it did, Okay, Yeah, yeah, I
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: think I said when we talked about it, it's like,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: it's hard to put yourself in my shoes. But it
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: felt like that she overreacted a bit, But it felt
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: like we were more sort of sympathizing with mo.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I think that's it. Yeah, yeah, you put yourself in
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: her perspective and she would have been annoyed by this. Absolutely,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: You clearly don't love me for me if you're trying
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: to change your appearance for me as well.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: But I think it was a pretty sensitive episode and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: a pretty funny episode in a lot of ways.
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• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I do not.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's the first episode, the premiere. So I just
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: think this was two fun stories that probably could have
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: been full episodes if they wanted to stretch them out,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: but thankfully they didn't, and they managed to sort of
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: blend them and combine them to make a really good
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: twenty two minute episode. Here you had Homerom Flanners becoming
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: bounty hunters that's right, yeah, and making it and being
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: a really good team, which is what I want to
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: touch on. But also Marge with her erotic cakes, yes,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: which was a fun side plot. I think. Yes, it's
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: always nice seeing Marge be appreciated for a talent she's got. Granted,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: by the end, we always it's just threw it at
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: the window back to, but she was really good at this,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: and it's just nice seeing Marge willing to sort of
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: drop a garden and go, oh, I'm making dick cakes
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: but whatever. You know, that's okay because you're trying to
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: hide for everybody going on. She's almost like embarrassed by it.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: She doesn't want to let her freaks sight out. And
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: when she's asked, She's like, yeah, this is cool. Oh, absolutely, yeah,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: you're making dicks. It's always eat him in the bedtime
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: and eat him in the shower. Yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: It's always tough, that, isn't it When you know you've
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: got a talent or a gift or something, but you're
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: afraid of how people are going to regain. Any person
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: who's in vague creative, even if it's not to do
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: with erotic cakes or say erotic literature, whatever, just writing
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a book or painting a picture or recording a podcast
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and putting it out into the world. You know, there's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: always that kind of like jush am I going to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: be judged with this, you know what a people are
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: going to think of this, like you're doing a percast.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I've noticed a lot of people when we put
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: out clips there video clips, there's always one or two
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: people going who these two dickheads, and it's like you
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: just gotta what this Ain't that you're always just going
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: to ignore those people because I make any more clips.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: There are people who just sit there and they just
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: they will break people down because you know what, you're
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: too scared to do something with yourself. So you've got
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: to bring everyone else down around you. That's correct, haters. Yes, yeah,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, granted he might not be any good, never
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: could never step off. If you enjoy it and you
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: want to be creative, do it and throw it out there.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Don't let that fear of what other people might think
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: hold you back.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, whether it's a simpsenceing podcast or a cake shaped
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: like a penis exactly.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: But then we got the other plot, the main plot,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: which is Homer and Flanders being bounty hunters, and then
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: you have Homer I think it's just too dangerous, and
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Flanders as I'm leaving, and then the bandy hunters like
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Homer's got a bounty on him, and Flanders has the
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: great moment of well, I'm going to do it, almost
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: to protect Homer because you see these other dangerous We've
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: convintional out bunty hunters because you can say, and who
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: are going to probably kill him or beat him up,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: so's I'll do it. And then Home say Flanders. It's
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: always nice seeing Homer and Flanders get along together, and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: they made a great team in this episode. Yeah.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Thing, I mean, we're always very fond of the fact
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that Home is a bit of a dick. To Flanders,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you know, always sort of a guards and it was
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: like a bit I'm done with that gag now, I'm over,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I think a little bit. Yeah, a little bit player.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: There's been too much evolution of the characters for that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: That was a fun gag at the beginning because he
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: didn't really know much about their relationship. Yeah, it was
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: our home is relatable. He's that because I don't think
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the Homer of nineteen ninety one or nineteen ninety is
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: relatable in twenty twenty five. The character is similar but
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: also evolved as well. I just don't think. I just
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: don't think people relate to the al Bundis of the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: world anymore. Okay, maybe now because people are kind of
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: gone too far, yeah back a bit. Maybe because it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: so different from what we're expecting now. But I just
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: don't think you've gotta find that balance of Albundi and Tanner.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Daddy Tanner that his full house. Oh yeah, yeah, yea, yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah. So I was thinking more like Phil Dumphy
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: from a Modern Family. Yeah, okay, yeah, see, I know
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I was never a Modern Family fan. I've never liked
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: the quirky, random humor. I'm not a huge fan of show,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: but I'm very much like what Tyberrell brought to the table. Yeah, character,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: So I just don't think the Simpsons, like just the
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Homo Simpson character as a still into nineteen ninety is
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: related on twenty twenty five, Which is why I just
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: don't think him being rude to his neighbor for the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: second being, because that's just what that was. The sick
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: confliche wasn't it was.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm digging a little too deep here, but I
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: always viewed it as a little bit of envy and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit of self loathing on Homer's parts, like
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: this guy's so good, I really probably should be like that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a that's an impossible level to reach.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Bo both Flanders is almost on the level of Phil
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Hartman and Jingle all the way in those first scenes
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: where you know, in that Christmas episode, the first episode,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: he goes, hey, Simpson, check out the new lights. Heh
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: and it's like, you obnoxious prick, But he's not meaning
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to be, but he's just no. You could but you
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: could understand Homer's annoyance, like shut up, Flanders. It is envy,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: but it's like hom Flantners wasn't Rubbi in his faith.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I guess they must have course correct early
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: on and making him more sort of like pious and
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: too much of a goodie good as opposed to just
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: good or good at stuff.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: But they made Flanders more sympathetic now because in the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: original series, like in the original run, the early run,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: he had it all basically that she would want. He's
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: lost his wife, now he's going to raise he's a
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: single father, he's not always other things that have come
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: his way. Well, film or sympathetic for Flat as well.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Now when Home makes fun of You're like, I'm kind
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: of on a Flannder side now not home side. Well,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the game a few scars, I mean, yeah, yeah, lost
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: his business, lost his home, lost his wife alle Yeah yeah,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: So it's like you're kind of rooting for Flanders more
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: than you're rooting for Homer. But yeah, I enjoyed. I
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: enjoyed the episode. Indeed, the next one I'm going to
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: talk about is take my life please. Okay, then what
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: did you do about this high definition? No?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: No, it is the first one in high definition that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: took a little getting used to. I mean, changing horses
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: mid stream, so to speak. How do you think you
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: would have gone if they had actually launched this season
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: in high definition as opposed to we got ten episodes
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: in standard and then were nine episodes in standard, and
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: then with episode ten is like, wow, look how bright
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and shiny.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It is, as in what I've watched the rest of
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the season. Do you think, oh, or the brand new
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: season n HD? Yeah, go, I was a big fan
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: of it at the time. I think I discussed this
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: on the podcast. It felt exciting. It felt like The
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Simpsons was entering modern times because it just felt like
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: the future because everything was in HD by that point.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: The Simpsons were still the four three and I'm like,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: it's just still seem like that old cartoon that I
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: watched when I was kidding, never watched when they were kids.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Being AHTIF felt like it was fresh cool again for
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: me anyway. But yeah, I know, I don't think my
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: opinion would have changed all that much of it was
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: at the year of the season or mid season.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just I find it interesting that they decided at
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the tenth episode it's like, zing, it's time.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Look, there's a lot to sort of be about in
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: this episode, and particularly the sort of using the Italian restaurants, sources,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the this is.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: A source one.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as the way of looking into the future, all
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the way of looking into alternate realities or the way
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: things could have gone. I'm not a huge fan of that.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's all that well thought out. But
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just a sucker for sliding doors sort of stories,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: or it's like what if kind of stories.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: My memory may be foggy, but is this the one
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: that has the guy coming back to Springford at the
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: start that we didn't really care about it. It's advance, Yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: and then they have the war at the end when
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Homer enters the Wall of Famous what.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I guess I'd probably like the first half of this
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: episode more than I like the second half. I mean,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think it resolves itself all
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: that well, and that whole plot device with the Italian
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: restaurant is not great. But yeah, as I said, just
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a sucker for a could have been this way.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: So the basic story of that was Homer realized that
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the election was rigged. I actually had had the because
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: didn't the super not the principal. He rigged it deliberately
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: so that Homy would move because he knew it was
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: going to be for the wrong reason. Yeah, he knew that. Yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: that was the story.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're electing Homers just so we can take
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the pit. It's like, yeah, it's like, I think you're cool,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Homer Simpson.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: That was mean.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: It's like carry you know where they make the prom
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: queen and then they just done the pig. But yeah,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a similar situation.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Well that Dondling who it is, Yeah, because they've always
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: had that rivalry. But it was nice. It was a
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: nice moment for Dondling. Was the character to go, I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: can see what's going on here. Even though I don't
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: really like this, I know that it wouldn't be right
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: of me to allow this.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: That you've got a responsibility as an educator and authority
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: figure to make sure they don't take too many hits.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: So I think that's the main reason that I enjoyed it.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I thought, yeah it it had a good heart, and
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: it also just had a storyline that or apploped the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: bars that I tend to really enjoy. I remember being
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: a fan of Home wanting to live in the sauce.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I think he jumps into the it was a nice
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: looking sauce sometimes you know, a good napoli sauce is
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: just what you need. Do you find when you go
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to a restaurant or even just that Suvlaky bar whatever,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: fish and chip shop, you look at the back and
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Steepe's making and you're like, this is a this is
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: a real place. When you see big Momay at the
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: back chopping up potatoes at the fish and chip shop,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: you're like, this is a fish and chip shop. Why
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I go to my still go to Maneuver Road, As
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I said, shout out, I haven't gone there yet. Still
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I keep saying, we're going to try the homemade chips
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: from the fish and chip shop.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Shout out, shout out to Nick and Pete. And like
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I said, I went to your pizza place, Romania, and
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: going in there, it's kind of like, well, this looks
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: like an Arsil family joint.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: At the telly on in the background, it like, hey,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: somebody look, order a pizza. Okay, let's make it up. Yeah,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: it just needs an arcade machine exactly Finer. I may
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: be projecting him, but it's kind of like, al right, guys,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: let's get it together. This guy wants a pizza, yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: as opposed to just a you have a cat on
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the window. Oh doing a little meals out us.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, okays, it just seemed like a nice little family joint.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, and it did. All right, My next one to
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: throw out there will be wedding for disaster. Now. I
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: remember it's not being a very funny episode, but it
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: was very emotionally driven where it was almost the one
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: there was one where there's some sore parody where you
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: feel like the writers went, Okay, people seem to be
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: sick of jok Art's Homer. This is not going to
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: fix this, but it's going to try and sway your
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: opinion more back into Yes, we're going to try and
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: make him more likable again, because he was just one
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: hundred percent relatable and likable in this episode. He was
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: just going out of his way from beginning to woe
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: to please Marge, get back to his family, and he
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: was just a lovely husband husband in this.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: It was a really vivid reminder that this guy knows
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: how good he's got it. Yes, yeah, which we're always saying,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I mean because it wasn't for a punchline, because hey,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: listeners are full thing a discat. You may not know this,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: but both Dan or as simps. So, yeah, we relate
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to Homer in that regard is like you won the game, buddy,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: So always remember that and always, you know, articulate that,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: don't take that for granted, don't take it for granted.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Exactly right, But I think they use Paddy and Salma
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: here as the sore villain. If you can even win
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: over Patty and Salomon, then how can you possibly win
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: over you the viewer? That's right.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Admediately they stacked the deck in some regard by making
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Marge a bit of a bridezilla.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I unlike that. It was It's nice seeing her get
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: her bridezilla moment. It's a it's a nice swerve, absolutely,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: but it also I think makes you watsympathetic for Homer.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: H Absolutely, yeah, but everyone can not that everyone can
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: relate to a bridezilla, but just sort of see where
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Margins coming from. But they still towards home and just
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: enough that you go, you're more on the guy's side
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: because we quite frankly, he needed.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: To pull the curtain back of it here planning for
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: our wedding. Nicola was the opposite of a bride seller,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: and she was organizing dresses right and her bride'smaids at
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the time, who she'd picked or several of them, were
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: complaining about this. They wanted this one too much money.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I want to be able to stay in Geelong. That
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: night's gonna costo much one if we stayed there. We
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: need to move this. They were basically telling Nichola how
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: to run her wedding. Oh boy, hey, you know what
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I did. I said to Nicola, you know what if
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: they're trying to tell you how to run your wedding,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: should they be bridesmaids? Knew what she did. She nicked them,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: three of her bridesmaids, and she replaced them. And she
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: looks back now and she goes, one of the best
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: decisions I've ever made was Nixon Nos. Three because she's
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: never spoken to him since, for real, never spoken to him.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Say's never seen them since. Those people when she's nixed them,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: and the three people she replaced them with are still
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: some of her best friends to this day. And she goes,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I chose because they were friends
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: of Nicholas when she first came to Australia, the ones
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: that she risually included, and I think she just sort
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: of included them by well, they were my first friends. Here,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I need to kind of include them. And then turns out, no,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: first friends, not always best friends. No, not always best friends,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and she's replaced them, and these are friends, our lifelong
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: and she looks back now she goes, I would hate
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: to look back on my wedding photos and have seen
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: those three in them. I'm so glad that my three
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: friends who I have still to this day are bridesmaids. Yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: well done. So Nicola was the opposite of a bride's yell,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: and it just took me to go and took everything
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: in her being to say you're not my bridesmad anymore.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: That's a big decision. Oh absolutely, But it was the
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: right decision, Oh.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, that's not just pulling the pin
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: on ceremony, that's probably pulling the pin on the whole friendship.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was it. She's never seen them or
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: spoken to him since, and good riddance support. Okay, well
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: likely I like that, looking Pete beyond the curtain.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: My next one, yes, is the good, the sad and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the drugly Yeah okay, yeah, for reasons that we've already
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: sort of talked about, but in a slightly different way.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: It's always good when a character who has been the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: butt of the joke or the punching bag not necessarily
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: gets their time to shine, but you know it gets
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a little bit of an updraft and gets a little
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: bit of a win and you forget that. That's the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: feeling for mill House with this episode. I initially tuned
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: in because it's like, yeah, and Hathaway his guest star.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And when we talked about this episode, I was like,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: didn't bring a whole lot of the table.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Annie didn't bring hold to the character. Really, no, that's
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: that's the character wasn't much. So how many female guest
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: stars are now bart girlfriends, that's true?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, the character of Jenny and this felt
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: like kind of a retread or a rehash.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Of every other female girlfriend. This did feel like a
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: bit of a rerun. Remember he knocked up somebody who
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: was the voice Forgot and there's a voice of the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: bully from Sarah Michelle Gallop when he was in prison.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and Hathaway not that great in this. I mean, yeah,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: all do you respect around Hathaway who now I'm going
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to marry? Yeah, blah blah blah. Oh, for goodness, I've
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: forgotten the name of the other female character who really
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: shines in this Shaner.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Shaner really especially debuts. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, I think
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I'm all in on shore. People did not like Sewan
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: when she debuted, and it's I think it's like twenty
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: years on, you're just like, you know what, She's actually
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: a much needed addition to the Bullies group because they
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: were just lost. Sure, yeah, yeah. I don't think Simpsons
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: as you knew what to do with the bullies because
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: they were intimidating anymore. They were just goofballs. Yeah. And
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: now they've got not even Capital City goopballs, I know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and now throwing Shorter in it, it's like, oh, at
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: least we've got something to sort of root for now.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. The fact that I I'm sure that's great.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I love it, And there is that there was a
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: fun little plot twist to her character in later season,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: which I won't if you want to see your reaction thing.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not well versed on sort of Simpsons going forward,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: so it's going to be she is somebody an exciting experiment, yes,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: But I think mainly I liked it because of the
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: of the Millhouse, the whole knotty friendship friendship relationship dynamic.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that all of us at some stage
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: in our life. Oh, you've got involved with a romantic partner,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: but it's kind of disrupting your friendships, that kind of thing. Thought.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I thought the episode actually handled that pretty well. I
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: thought it handled it comedically pretty well, but also emotionally
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: pretty smartly.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: So I was I was a fan of that. I'm
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: not so much a fan of the b plot, where
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: that was a week at best. Yeah, the whole Lisa
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: being well, she hates the world the words because she
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: has the project on Springfield and fifty years well, oh
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: that's right, it was going to shit. So she gets
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: put on drugs to be happy, and then Marge's like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I'm taking off these drugs, and then that was there.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: She's just off.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Lisa had the very twenty twenty five sort of state
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of mind and popping her pills and seeing everything with
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: happy face. The visuals on that weren't bad as far
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: as I Yeah, that was quite good, but I mean
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: it was just a bit of a nothing burger of
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: a storyline, and it didn't feel one hundred percent sort
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: of faithful to Lisa as well, sort of.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I mean Lisa's I think Lisa's the worst hand character
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: in modern times. Well, yeah, but she was. I mean,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: we've had the episode where Lisa was feeling down and
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: that was handled, so we ourning Lisa, as we said
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: in the episode. Yeah, it's one of the one of
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the best moments of all time the Simpsons. If you
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: want to be sad, be sad. Absolutely absolutely.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: But I thought there was a lot to enjoy in
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: the good the sound, and the drug ly and that
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: that sort of iffy b plot aside.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I'm going to throw the one out we just did
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: recently coming to America. I really like this. I think
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the way the hand of the subject matter is similar
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: to Goubacs we just did on going down to South Park. Correct.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I think the Simpsons did a better job of it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it was as funny as the South
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Park version. South Park, you know they call a crude
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: or whatever. They do very a lot of things on
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the nose, but it was very, very funny, right. I
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: think the Simpsons handled this really touchy subject in a
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: way that you can show your kids and say the
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: kids will be getting learning a lesson without realizing they're
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: learning a lesson. I think this episode, the way they
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: showcased the ogdenvillionsvillions, that's who came in yet as opposed
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: to the Mexicans or whatever, because the other one, the
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Mypods and boomsticks, was so obvious. Yeah, with the terrorists
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: and whatnot, and I would just think they're terrorists and
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: it's just like, this feels very awkward, and I don't
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: know what's what's the way to describe that. I just
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: felt well, blunt, blunt, yeah, watching that where this one here,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Homer gets swept up at it all, but it's not
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: in a way that's so obvious as my Poston Brute
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and absolutely no.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: It shows that it's very easy to sort of get
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: swept up in that, and not because necessarily you're afraid
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: of or contemptuous of, quote unquote the other.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, someone coming to take you jib or whatever. It's like, oh, look,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: we're more.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Than willing to help people out, but the same time,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: this is also kind of being a bit of a
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: drain on our resources thing.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think they balance it quite well,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And as you said, I think it's something that you
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: could show to your kids and they would take away
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the lessons like, well, being mean to newcomers or strangers,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: or be kind of strangers, offer a helping hand, do
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: what you can, that kind of thing. But they also
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: showed it's like you got to realize though, that when
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you offering a helping hand or helping out can sometimes.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Require a bit of a sacrifice. Yeah, are you willing
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: to do that? Yeah? Some people maybe, and some people
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: may not. So you know, I got to look into
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: all of that. The previous episode was more focus on
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Homer seeing how they looked and going, oh, well, you'd
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: look like a terrorist, where this one here wasn't based
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: on appearance. It was and it wasn't really It wasn't
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: based on the gebs. That wasn't the thing. It was
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: just having more people in this town is a drain,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: as you said, on our resources, but it can't be
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: seen at the hospital, and that because the emergency rooms
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: forced things like that. Look, all these kind of stuff's
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: being just overpopulated. So the issue was more overpopulation as
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: opposed to they're still in our jobs, they look different
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing, which I think is a real
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: clever way of handling the situation. Still getting the same
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: message across a unity. And then they want to build
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the wall, which we've touched on how the Trump tried
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: to build the walls, that kind of thing, but in
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: the future. But then as they're building the wall, just
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: talking to each other and going, we're actually not so different.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: You and I look at what're building together.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, and really the building wall to separate themselves,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: but they're working on it together. It's an interesting kind
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: of matter.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Making them build the wall and then get out. Yeah,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Look, I gave a writer, Brendan Hay, a bit of
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: stick during that episode. I'm going to take some of
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it back.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I think. I think Brenda did all right.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Some of his gags were kind of it's a bit sloppy,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: but I think his overall structure was pretty good.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Speaking of sloppy, I liked the opening act, the spewed Army.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I was about to mention that, I think, yeah, this
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: has got one of the best inciting incidents for some time.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: It has been. Yeah. I really enjoyed the Krusty Burger,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the new healthy Krusty Burger, that's right. Yeah, and again
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: by the nature Burger. I believe it was called something
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: along those yeah, yeah, and I was just in a
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: green wrapper.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was giving Brendan hays Stick the sloppy gags.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: He had one really good gag, and that was just like,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: what was it? The you know, the Krusty Burger is
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: the world's unhealthiest or whatever, even more unhealthy than the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: than the double Krusty Burger, surprisingly, so yeah, yeah, that's
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: a that's actually a really good gag.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you must have one left. I believe I've
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: got one left. It's how the test was one. Okay. Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I thought this actually had two good plots working, if
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: not necessarily in concert with one another, working well together.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: They sort of Yeah, they dubbed heiled nicely, but yeah, the.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Whole home has to be plot of trying to avoid
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: getting hurt. Yeah, his insurance is out, so you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: he's it's a bit of a final destination kind of
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: thing where it was, wasn't it. Yeah, And it was
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: a bit of it. Just that was a fine b
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: plot just to sort of break up the main story.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: It's relatable enough and it's like oh, like yeah, I'm
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: not sure this has ever happened to anyone in real life,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: but it's like, oh, I've got to avoid getting If
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I can just make it through the rest of the
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: day without hitting someone with my car or you know,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: a building falling on or whatever, everything will work out.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: So I thought that was pretty interestingly done. Yeah, the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: whole standardized Practice test thing with the school with Barton Lisa,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I just got a kick out of her.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Thought. This where Skinner takes the kids away. Yeah, it
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: takes Ralph bart in the bullies way on the school bus.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: It's not really they think it's something else, but it's
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: actually they think they're going on like a helicopter and
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: it pulls a blanket off the school and more like
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a prison bus. That's where Skinner is. It's where he
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: teaches that he uses the barge for teaching him about physics.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, So I don't know, it had good
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: lessons in there, wrapped in good jokes, I thought. But yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I just like the way the A and B plot
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: sort of worked together well. And yeah, and you had
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a A minus plot with Lisa
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: getting all sort of worked up because you know, I
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: was smarter, well she thought he was smarter, that's right. Yeah.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I kind of liked how the test was one mainly
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: for that resolution. Yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Were they capital city that they went to or shelved somewhere? Yeah, yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: but they were out of out of spring Fruit for
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: a while. You had a group of people who a
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: group of the kids that you hadn't necessarily seen together
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: for a while.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Ralph barton the bullies, Yeah, rare ralphart and the bullies.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought it worked, and I like
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: it when Skinner and bart get along as well. That's true,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: and he's able to get through to the kids. Yeah,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: because this was a moment where the skin I think
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: we discussed it in the review, a moment that the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Skinner character needed.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: This is something that's coming up a bit in this
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: discussion how the episodes that we've liked, and maybe Season
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: twenty as a whole has given these traditionally sideline characters.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: And I don't just mean sideline dramatically, I mean sidelined
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: in terms of like, okay, well you're the ones that
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: we poke fun at, you're the butt of the joke. Yeah,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the butt of the joke. Giving them there again time
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: to shine or giving them just like you know, these
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: are people too, and you don't lose all the time.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you get a win.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: So I must though there's a bit of recess before
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: this season, and went, what if we're doing wrong, let's
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: try and fix that a little bit. Don't get me wrong.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Season twenty had its down moments, but there was plenty
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: of good in there as well.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I think we were pleasantly surprised, yeah, because I think
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: going in we were going like, Eh, this is going
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: to be death.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wasn't. I mean, it was nowhere near death. No, no.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And there was stuff in there that we would say
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: during the episodes when we reviewed them, like, this is
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: a gag that would work well in quote unquote classic Simpsons,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: This would not be out of place. Now, there were
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: certainly times where I was like, this certainly would be
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: what was.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: More case of just ah, this episode's just there. I'm bored,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: as opposed to I'm anger on, I'm just bored with this.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think we had many, if any episodes in
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: season twenty we were like stricken from the record, this
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: is garbage.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of where I sort of went, ah,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: and this ending feels very rushed and whatnot, But nothing
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: that angered me or anything to the level of the
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  Speaker 2: there is I'm going to say this is a non
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: cannon episode. It's more of like a format bending episode.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: It's gone, Maggie Gone, Okay, So they take onto da
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Vinci Code and National Treasure. I thought this was a
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: really fun mystery where you know when they do those
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: trilogy episodes and it's here's a historic event in Simpson's form,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: this was well, this was a great women at a manicure. Yeah,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. I don't like them because it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: just not anything new here. This was a more of
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: a following the same sort of plot lines of these
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: DaVinci Codes and whatnot. But you've really simplified it. That's
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the one where Homer leaves Maggie on the doorstep of
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: the convent. Lisa goes to try and get her back.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: She's all secretive she's chosen one. I just thought it
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: was really fun. I just thought I was beef for beat.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You didn't really know where it was going. And in
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the end it turns out Maggie is that the chosen one.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: They end up giving Bart as a replacement. He becomes Hell.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed this overall mystery episode and cool. It
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: kept me intrigued from bit to bit.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I won't say I was mad as mad on that one.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I thought it was fine. It didn't it didn't disrupt
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: me or anything like that. But I don't know if
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I've said, actually said all of mine, all of my
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: top five.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, is the one more for you? I think
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: there might be what's your loved one? Well, the one
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: that I did want to bring up was in the
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Name of the Grandfather. Okay, yeah, I'm really quite like
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I gave it as one of yours. I'm not sure
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: if it's on it's not. No, But so they go
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to Ireland and by the pop.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of these episodes were it's like the
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Simpsons are going to such and such. You know, some
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: of them could be a bit dubious.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: We always say the negative about those ones is they go,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: then they go, let's just pick out a few guest stars.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I think we're sort of looking at through the lens
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: of like when they went to the UK and it's like, hey,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: here's jk Rowling, hiss Tony Blair. It's like, okay, we've
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: got some You've got your check book open and you've
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: got your clout and you're able to say hey, come
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: on board, and hey, I would say.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: On So they do get that stuff out of the way.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: It's not the main substance of the story there, because
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: you have Bart, Lisa and Marge going on a little that. Yeah,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: it's like they go to various locations in Ireland, but
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: that's not the episode. The episode is Homer and Grandpa
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: buying this part, buying this pub.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it also felt like it paid a lot
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of tribute to Ireland present and past. It was like, Yep,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: this is a country full of rich culture and interesting
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: people and interesting characters and all this kind of stuff,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and through studdled little gags all the way out, even
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: something like little Easter eggs. I think I've got all
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: book nerding and was talking about, Hey, there's that picture,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: and you know that's James Joyce, and that's Oscar will
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and that's Samuel Beckett.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: You may not get it, but there it is. I know.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was something really not Now I've
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: got Irish heritage, you Okay, maybe that's part of the
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: reason why I enjoyed this, But no, I just thought
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: it was a fun episode.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Isn't the one This is where they allow smoking in
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: their pub because round pubs in Ireland, right, that's how
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: they get their business up. Yeah. And the cops coming over,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: they had the vacuum. Yeah, they're putting it and putting
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: the smoke in evidence bags. It was a pretty good game. Yeah.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: How does that one end? Do you remember how it ends?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I think they get deported and sent back to the
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: ending was The ending was shit. The ending was a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: little bit of a non event. Island has got great
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: cops because they kicked out all their terrible people and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: all the terrible people went to America and became cops
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: there and Clancy and Clancy is.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: The example of that. Yeah.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: So but yeah, I thought In the Name of the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Grandfather was a fun episode. I thought it was a nice,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: not necessarily bonding moment between Homer and Grandpa, but I
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: got them back on common ground to some degree. And
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I thought Cole Meenie was a good guest star.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, as the pub owner. The pub owner,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: that's right, he did well. That is our top ten
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: of season twenty. Yeah. Not a whole lot of crossover
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: only maybe one one, I think, yeah, any teeny. Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Besides that, there was a lot to like in season twenty,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: as we've already said, yeah it was, and hey, we
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: did the job of excavating it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Because I imagine there are a lot of people out
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: there going season twenty and I forget about it. I'm
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: just going to put seasons like three through nine.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: On a loop and just watch that. I think we
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: do it, don't do it. I think we've done the
• 44:01
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• 44:03
  Speaker 2: to this now is clearly someone who's smart enough to go,
• 44:06
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• 44:09
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• 44:11
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• 44:13
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• 45:34
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• 45:46
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• 45:50
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• 45:51
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• 45:54
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• 45:56
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• 46:01
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• 46:03
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• 46:05
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