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What The World Needs More Of - Richard Skipper - S01E08 · What Does The World Need More Of?

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  Speaker 1: Well, good morning, everybody. I'm Danielle Morris, and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: What the World Needs More of podcast.
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  Speaker 2: And today, we are so honored to.
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  Speaker 1: Have Richard Skipper here.
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  Speaker 2: Richard is....
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  Speaker 1: An entertainer, an interviewer, a self-described Broadway legacy advocate with
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  Speaker 1: over four decades of live performances. He hosts a long-running
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  Speaker 1: talk and variety show called Richard Skipper Celebrates. And he's
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  Speaker 1: interviewed and befriended legends, including Carol Channing. But underneath the
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  Speaker 1: tribute shows and the history, his real subject is connection.
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  Speaker 1: He said his work exists to fight disconnection, in a
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  Speaker 1: world where so much of our communication has gone digital
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  Speaker 1: and distant. His answer to what the world needs more
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  Speaker 1: of is human interaction. So let's start with defining your
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  Speaker 1: perspective of what more human interaction looks like and how
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  Speaker 1: do we improve a lot of our lives by embracing
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  Speaker 1: this concept.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, thank you very much for giving me
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity to be here. I feel that social media
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  Speaker 2: has truly disconnected us. When you think about the two terms,
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  Speaker 2: social and media, they should be bringing us together closer.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that in our age, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: sound like an old fogey here, folks, so get ready.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that we've gotten to a point where
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  Speaker 2: hitting a like button, leaving an emoji, people think is enough.
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  Speaker 2: And I could post, for example, something on Facebook about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, hey, I'm doing the Daniel Mara show. You
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  Speaker 2: should all tune in today. And I may get 25,
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  Speaker 2: 30 likes, but very few people will leave an actual
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  Speaker 2: comment about why they're hitting that like button. And I
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  Speaker 2: think the like button has become almost like a dopamine rush,
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  Speaker 2: that people are hitting the like button because they think
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  Speaker 2: that that's the way that we should be communicating with
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  Speaker 2: one another. But how many of those same people will say, well,
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  Speaker 2: who was Daniel Morris? Or I love Daniel Morris, or
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  Speaker 2: I listened to her show, or any other comment just
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  Speaker 2: to show that there's an engagement there. I know where
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna go later on with this conversation, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna leave part of this until we get there. But
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  Speaker 2: I really do believe that every person, everybody listening, everybody
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  Speaker 2: who will see this, pick up the phone every day
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  Speaker 2: and reach out to someone you haven't spoken to in
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  Speaker 2: a while. Just to say, hello, I'm reaching out to
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  Speaker 2: see how you are. I just want you to know
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  Speaker 2: that you matter to me. And I miss the days
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  Speaker 2: when when I would go to an audition, for example,
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  Speaker 2: and I'd be standing in line with 1,500 people, that
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  Speaker 2: people in line would be having conversations with one another
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to sitting and looking at their devices. I
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  Speaker 2: love going to the theater and sitting next to somebody
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  Speaker 2: and striking up a conversation with someone. Nowadays, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people are afraid to do that, and I understand why.
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  Speaker 2: And I also believe that the reason that we are
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  Speaker 2: as divided as we are in this country politically is
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  Speaker 2: because of the disconnect rather than just, when someone is
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  Speaker 2: on the other side of me politically, I will always say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: tell me what I'm missing. Tell me what you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: that I am missing so that I can, that's not
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  Speaker 2: gonna say that I'm gonna jump to your side of
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  Speaker 2: thoughts and beliefs, but at least I'm willing to listen
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  Speaker 2: to what they're saying and try to understand where they're
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  Speaker 2: coming from. Because Danielle, you, I, every single person listening
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  Speaker 2: and watching this show, we are a product of everything
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  Speaker 2: that has brought us to this moment. The way that
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  Speaker 2: we watch the news, the way that we watch movies,
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  Speaker 2: the way that we listen to music, the way we
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  Speaker 2: read newspapers, if people still read newspapers, the way that
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  Speaker 2: people communicate nowadays or not communicate, all of those elements
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  Speaker 2: have brought us to where we are today. And I
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  Speaker 2: feel that we just need to get back to that
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  Speaker 2: human connection. That's what's missing in the world today. And
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  Speaker 2: until we find a way to get back to that,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to get more and more divided.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to take, I'm just going to take a
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  Speaker 1: second and let everybody just take a breath, breathe, breathe
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  Speaker 1: that in that, that, that arc of humanity brought thoughts of,
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  Speaker 1: You know, the book Bowling Alone, where bowling is more popular,
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  Speaker 1: but we're lonely. And I don't know, Richard, it may
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  Speaker 1: have been on one of your posts on LinkedIn that
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  Speaker 1: I read, but somewhere, someplace said, a like is not
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  Speaker 1: an interaction and we need to leave a comment. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm part of a program, part of a group on
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  Speaker 1: a platform called School that I think that's where that
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  Speaker 1: came from. And that was stunningly impressive. you know, in your,
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  Speaker 1: your comment about, you know, going for an audition, I
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  Speaker 1: just all of a sudden brought up chorus line where
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about that entire song of being auditioned and, and, and.
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  Speaker 2: I hope I get it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I hope I get it, you know, and my body
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  Speaker 1: is this or that, or, you know, all of that,
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  Speaker 1: you know? So yeah, that's, you know, the rest of
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  Speaker 1: my day, I'll be singing chorus line. It's, it's all
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  Speaker 1: your fault.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, that's a great, that's a great show to
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  Speaker 2: listen to. And I also believe, you know, I always
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  Speaker 2: say if everybody began every day with a show tune,
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  Speaker 2: there'd be no violence in the world.
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  Speaker 1: That is, that is, that's, I mean, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: get more nuggets out of this episode, people. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've expressed how you don't entertain for just the audience, right?
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  Speaker 1: You entertain with them, right? You engage with them. What's
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  Speaker 1: the difference mechanically in how you run a room when
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  Speaker 1: you're interacting, especially with strangers, right? How do you behave
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  Speaker 1: that's different than how you see other people behave?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to something that Carol Channing
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  Speaker 2: taught me. Carol Channing said, there are entertainers and there
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  Speaker 2: are performers. A SEAL is a performer. A SEAL is
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  Speaker 2: only interested in one thing, getting a reward, getting the fish.
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  Speaker 2: So a seal will balance a ball on its nose.
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  Speaker 2: It will flap its fins. It will do whatever it
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  Speaker 2: needs to do to get. I have a Maltese puppy.
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  Speaker 2: And we go for walks throughout the day. And I
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  Speaker 2: set my alarm so that we can go out. And
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  Speaker 2: it's like Pavlov's dog. When he hears that alarm goes off,
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  Speaker 2: he knows he's going to get a treat. And he
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  Speaker 2: will come and he will dance around. And it's all
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  Speaker 2: about getting that treat. An entertainer. is always focused on
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  Speaker 2: the audience, not focused on me. Someone once asked me,
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  Speaker 2: they said, what is your routine before going on stage?
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  Speaker 2: And I actually sit and I meditate on my audience.
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  Speaker 2: And I think about who they are, what kind of
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  Speaker 2: day have they had? Did they have a rough time
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  Speaker 2: getting here? Are they rushing to get here? Are they hungry?
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  Speaker 2: Are they in a good mood? Did something happen today
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  Speaker 2: that was exciting for them? Did something happen that was
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  Speaker 2: devastating to them? kind of people are sitting out there
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  Speaker 2: coming together in this collective, wanting to be there to
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  Speaker 2: celebrate with me. So I'm always focused on them. I
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  Speaker 2: know what songs I'm gonna sing. I know what stories
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell for the most part, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how the audience is gonna react to that.
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  Speaker 2: And there are some performers who go out on stage
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  Speaker 2: and they're like automatons. They go on and they will
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  Speaker 2: get the same performance every single time. Some of them
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  Speaker 2: are great at it and you feel that you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: one of the greatest performances that you've ever did and
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  Speaker 2: that they've ever done that you've ever seen. And then
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  Speaker 2: there are performers that go out there and you go,
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  Speaker 2: that didn't touch me. That didn't move me. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: feel like they were reaching across the footlights to bring
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  Speaker 2: me into what they're doing. So to me, I always
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  Speaker 2: say when I travel around the country with my shows
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  Speaker 2: and I always say to the lighting designers, I am
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  Speaker 2: your worst nightmare. So what I mean by that is
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  Speaker 2: that it's not about lighting me in a special way
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  Speaker 2: or lighting me so that I've got these great effects
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  Speaker 2: going on behind me. I want to see the audience.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see the eyes of the person sitting
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  Speaker 2: in the back seat. And most entertainers, I mean, most
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  Speaker 2: people that I know in this business will tell you
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  Speaker 2: the idea of being able to see their audience completely
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  Speaker 2: scares the hell out of them. And I just saw
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  Speaker 2: an interview recently with Steve Martin. And Steve Martin says,
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  Speaker 2: I never want to see the audience because I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to see if they don't like me or not. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I do. I'm just the complete opposite of that. I
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  Speaker 2: want to connect with those people sitting in the back seat.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes those people that are sitting in the back
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  Speaker 2: seat are in the back seat because they couldn't afford
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  Speaker 2: the front seat. Right. That has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: the hierarchy of those people in the back seat being
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  Speaker 2: there because that's where they want to be. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what we need to think about as artists on stage,
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  Speaker 2: that the people that have taken the time, and it's not,
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  Speaker 2: with Carol Channing, the idea of missing a performance was
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  Speaker 2: something that was like poison, it was like poison to her.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't want people, you know, to feel that she
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  Speaker 2: was not there for them. She would say, well, they've
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  Speaker 2: spent a fortune on a babysitter. They've done this. They've
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  Speaker 2: made an evening so that they could be there. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so that's, you know, what it's all about.
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  Speaker 1: I will have to admit, for almost 30 years, I've,
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  Speaker 1: I've taught various kinds of seminars. I've led seminars. I, well,
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  Speaker 1: I've done a little bit of, a little bit of, well,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really do stage work. I had a guest
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  Speaker 1: performance on Gypsy one time, but that was because I
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  Speaker 1: won an auction, but it was fun when I had
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  Speaker 1: all my friends in the audience and there I was on,
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  Speaker 1: on the main stage. But, you know, I, I think
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  Speaker 1: about when we moved, when we moved online and all
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  Speaker 1: I do is speak and do a camera, but I
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  Speaker 1: have no human interaction. And that's, that's the part I
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  Speaker 1: think where, when you're looking out in the audience and
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  Speaker 1: you're saying a Cicero would say the eyes are the
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  Speaker 1: mirror of the soul, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I want to, I want to see that audience and
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  Speaker 1: I can respect Steve Martin being.
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  Speaker 2: Fearful, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's a, that's a, that's perfectly authentic for Mr. Martin
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  Speaker 1: having not met him, but we're, we're good with that. So,
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  Speaker 1: So let's chat about Carol Channing and some of the
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  Speaker 1: other people. You know, your friendship, because I think you
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  Speaker 1: helped celebrate her work first and then over time developed it.
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  Speaker 1: So how did that human connection not only change you,
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  Speaker 1: but change how you crafted your art for bringing this
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  Speaker 1: more humanity in? across all of our platforms.
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  Speaker 2: So Daniel, we're gonna need more than 15 minutes for this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll schedule another two.
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  Speaker 2: I'll try to give you the Reader's Digest version. I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid that I used to do lunchtime concerts
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  Speaker 2: on my front steps of my high school. And I
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  Speaker 2: would mimic everybody that I saw on television. And one
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  Speaker 2: of those people that I used to mimic when I
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  Speaker 2: was in high school was Carol Channing. And so, but
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  Speaker 2: I would get up and I would sing as Carol
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  Speaker 2: in a piano bar. or I would get up and
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  Speaker 2: sing at a party or something like this. And a
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  Speaker 2: lot happened around all of that. So I would dress
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  Speaker 2: up as Carol on Halloween and I would hit all
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  Speaker 2: the piano bars and I would go out and perform
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  Speaker 2: as Carol. And I never made fun of her. I
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  Speaker 2: presented her exactly as I saw her. And so in 1994,
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  Speaker 2: that's how I'm old. So in 1994, Carol Channing came
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  Speaker 2: back to Broadway to her last revival of Hello, Dolly!
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  Speaker 2: And a friend of mine called me up and said,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not doing a show about Carol Channing, at
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  Speaker 2: this time, you're making the biggest mistake of your life.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, well, what if she doesn't like what
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing? And he says, you'll soon find out. So
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  Speaker 2: I started putting a show together. And then I found
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  Speaker 2: out that the New York City Gay Men's Chorus was
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  Speaker 2: doing a celebration of Jerry Herman, who, of course, did
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  Speaker 2: the words and music for Hello, Dolly!, And Carol Channing
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  Speaker 2: was going to be performing as part of this celebration.
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  Speaker 2: So I started, we didn't have social media in those days, folks.
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  Speaker 2: So I started a campaign to be a part of
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  Speaker 2: that evening. I wrote letters, I made phone calls, and
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  Speaker 2: everything landed on deaf ears. A very dear friend of
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  Speaker 2: mine called me up and he said, Lee LaForge, may
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  Speaker 2: he rest in peace, called me up and said, what
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  Speaker 2: are you doing Sunday night, the night of the concert,
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  Speaker 2: And I said, I'm going to be at home watching television.
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  Speaker 2: He says, you're not going? I said, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I could enjoy it as much as I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be a part of it. I don't think that I
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  Speaker 2: could just sit back and enjoy myself. So he said, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm playing the after party. You should crash the after party.
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  Speaker 2: So I crashed the after party as Carol Channing. I'm
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  Speaker 2: giving you the shorter version of this. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of trepidation, I was petrified. And I
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  Speaker 2: walked in and he introduced me to Carol. He says,
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  Speaker 2: Miss Channing, Miss Channing. And she looked up at me
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  Speaker 2: and she said, where did you learn to do this?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, Bennington College in Vermont. You do know
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  Speaker 2: where that is, Carol? And of course I'm doing her material.
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  Speaker 2: And she's asking me all these questions and I never
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  Speaker 2: broke character. And everything that I answered, I answered as
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  Speaker 2: if I were her. And then she's, and there were
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  Speaker 2: all these people that were there to see her. And
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  Speaker 2: I said, Carol, these people want to see you. I
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  Speaker 2: do not want to take away from their joy tonight.
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  Speaker 2: But before you go, I'd like to do a song
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  Speaker 2: for you. She said, you would like to do a
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  Speaker 2: song for me? And I said, well, actually, I'd like
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  Speaker 2: to do my whole show for you. But I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: you don't have the time. And she said, well, make
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  Speaker 2: the time you say when and where. I said, upstairs
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  Speaker 2: in 10 minutes. She stood up and she said to
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  Speaker 2: everybody in the room, I never thought I'd say these words.
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  Speaker 2: But in 10 minutes, we're going up to see Carol Channing.
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  Speaker 2: And she came up with like the Pied Piper with
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  Speaker 2: everyone behind her. She sat on a stool right in
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  Speaker 2: front of me. I've got all the pictures to prove this, folks.
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  Speaker 2: She sat on a stool in front of me and
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  Speaker 2: I did my entire show for her. And when the
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  Speaker 2: show was over, she got up, she gave me this
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  Speaker 2: big hug and a kiss, gave me one of her
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  Speaker 2: diamond rings. She called it her diamond award. And she said,
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  Speaker 2: this is the first time I've been shown with love, respect,
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  Speaker 2: and polish. She said, thank you for this Valentine. And
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  Speaker 2: I said, I'm about to open a show. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to do it without your endorsement. She said,
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  Speaker 2: take the gauntlet and run with it. So several years later,
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  Speaker 2: she went through a horrendous end of marriage. And a
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  Speaker 2: lot was written and said about her in the press.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote her a letter and I was able to
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  Speaker 2: hand her the letter at one of her events. And
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  Speaker 2: in the letter, it said I would never use her
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  Speaker 2: personal life for fodder. I would never delve into her
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  Speaker 2: personal life. That I would only present on stage the
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  Speaker 2: Carol Channing that the rest of the world knew. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that was what opened those floodgates. So as
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  Speaker 2: time went on, we got closer and closer. Our paths
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  Speaker 2: were constantly crossing. She used to joke that people were
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  Speaker 2: telling her that, you know, I saw you performing. She'd go, oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't me. That was Richard Skipper. And then she
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  Speaker 2: got a star on the Palm Springs Walk of Fame,
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  Speaker 2: and she invited me to come to her home. And
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  Speaker 2: I stayed with her, which was like... pinching myself, but
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  Speaker 2: this kid that grew up idolizing her. And I did
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  Speaker 2: it for 20 years. And when she stopped performing, I
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  Speaker 2: stopped doing it as well.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. What a joyful story of love and friendship and
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  Speaker 1: character and humanity. Because as you said, you embraced who
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  Speaker 1: she was in the spirit of who she is, right?
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  Speaker 1: And with with care and never for the negative. Richard,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to have to do this again. But as
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  Speaker 1: we wrap up, we have some people who are listening.
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  Speaker 1: They're not seeing us, so they don't get to enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell everybody, watch the video. This
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  Speaker 1: is an entertainment on stage at home. What can our
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  Speaker 1: listeners do the moment they end whatever it is that
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  Speaker 1: they're doing to make the world just a little bit
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  Speaker 1: with more humanity.
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  Speaker 2: This is the woo-hoo moment of the show. Woo-woo. Woo-hoo.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big proponent of numerology. And so today for
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  Speaker 2: me is a one day. So on a one day,
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  Speaker 2: when I start my day and I go to Facebook,
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  Speaker 2: I think most of your listeners are on Facebook. But
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  Speaker 2: when I go to Facebook, the first name that pops
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  Speaker 2: up Rather than responding with an email or a text
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  Speaker 2: or a private inbox message, I pick up the phone
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  Speaker 2: and I call them. And if I don't have their number,
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  Speaker 2: I will let them know that I'm thinking of them
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  Speaker 2: and I'm always available for a phone call. And I
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  Speaker 2: connect with people on that level every single day. One
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  Speaker 2: phone call, it doesn't have to be a long phone call, three,
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  Speaker 2: five minutes, just to say, is there anything you need
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  Speaker 2: from me? And the next thing that we need to
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  Speaker 2: do is listen. listen to what people are saying to you. I,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to leave the show on a sad note,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm going to share something with you. Um, I
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  Speaker 2: did just that two weeks ago. I reached out to
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  Speaker 2: a Facebook friend and we talked, uh, we had a
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  Speaker 2: wonderful phone conversation. Um, I didn't realize how severely depressed
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: this person was. He took his life on Monday and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: which is tragic and sad. And, uh, So Michael Sherwood,
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  Speaker 2: I dedicate this to him, pick up the phone and
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  Speaker 2: call someone. You don't know what someone is going through.
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  Speaker 2: And I, as sad as that was, I'm so thrilled
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  Speaker 2: that we had that phone conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Richard. You brought the impact and the
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  Speaker 1: importance of bringing our humanity back into our daily lives
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  Speaker 1: and our daily moments. And I thank you. On behalf
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  Speaker 1: of Richard Skipper, whose contact information will be in the notes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Morris. This has been the What the World
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Needs More of podcast. And I thank you. And until
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  Speaker 1: next time.
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  Speaker 2: Can I say one quick thing before we hit off?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm very ubiquitous. I'm on Facebook. I'm on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: Reach out to me, folks. Reach out. And I want
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: to connect with as many people. That's how you and
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I met through LinkedIn, Danielle.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I saw your post and I reached out to you.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: We have to reach out to one another. Beautiful. All right, everybody.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Have a great day. Until next time, I'm Daniel Morris.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you.