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- 0:00[SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to strictly bias with Will Rutherford only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
- 0:12[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back everybody to the week 9 NFL recap on this week's edition of Strictly Bias with yours truly will rather third I am here at Stage 22 watching the Indian at Pacer's take on the books, Miles Turner's return to Indianapolis, the evil Milwaukee book.
- 0:29[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
- 0:30[SPEAKER_01]: I'm joined tonight by while you earn them already.
- 0:33[SPEAKER_01]: The one, the only, the legend, Greg, men get out, thank you for joining us tonight.
- 0:38[SPEAKER_02]: Well thank you for letting me be your sidekick.
- 0:40[SPEAKER_01]: So Greg, we saw a complete 180 happen this week in the NFL.
- 0:46[SPEAKER_01]: We went from week eight where we saw one game within one score to nine of 12 yesterday that were inside of one score.
- 0:56[SPEAKER_01]: That's a pretty big difference, especially when it's getting awful out in the media that those games are really bad in the NFL needed to work on scheduling in the middle of the season.
- 1:05[SPEAKER_01]: This week delivered Greg, I have a lot to say about it, but first what do you want to know?
- 1:10[SPEAKER_02]: I want to know if you've ever seen in your life of watching the NFL, a team that yo-yowed as much as the Green Bay Packers.
- 1:22[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about, beginning of the season, we were talking about a superbowl contender, especially after they got Micah Parsons, then they looked awful after the first couple of weeks.
- 1:30[SPEAKER_02]: They tie the Packers, then they have this great game in Pittsburgh, break the Pittsburgh
- 1:39[SPEAKER_02]: from one end to the other back and forth all year.
- 1:41[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen anything like it.
- 1:43[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, we're going to talk about them later in five Windows and five losers, but it's to me kind of a Yin and Yang, you know, one week they look like they're beating the 85 VAERS in the next week.
- 1:54[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't look like they could beat the, oh wait, Detroit Lions, I don't have an answer for it.
- 1:59[SPEAKER_01]: I think part of it stems from just the inconsistency, you're probably always going to get from Jordan love that
- 2:08[SPEAKER_01]: or type that he has that gunslinger very Brett Farve Baker may feel to ask, you know, games where he's on, he looks like the best quarterback in the league, but when it's not going the way he wants it to, or he's just not able to find their receivers, he doesn't look very good at it.
- 2:25[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's a stingy panther's defense.
- 2:27[SPEAKER_01]: That's a defense that's performed pretty well.
- 2:30[SPEAKER_01]: are really for the better part of the entire year.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_01]: Usually they play much better at home, they go to Lambo and get a huge win.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_01]: It's a huge win for them to be able to go in there and be to team that you viewed as kind of that super bowl or bust echelon of the league.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_01]: And I think right now we might have asked the questions that is that really where they're sealing is now, especially with the loss of Tucker craft.
- 2:52[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 2:53[SPEAKER_02]: But especially with the loss
- 2:57[SPEAKER_02]: we were saying, maybe the best tied in in the NFL.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he's been.
- 3:02[SPEAKER_01]: One person was saying that the others were not.
- 3:05[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's been through this year, along with Tyler Warren and a couple of other things.
- 3:10[SPEAKER_01]: He deserves to be in the conversation.
- 3:11[SPEAKER_01]: But without question, I've never said he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation, but he's going to miss the rest of the year with an ACL injury.
- 3:17[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe more.
- 3:17[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think that you're, I mean, you're the middle of the season now.
- 3:20[SPEAKER_01]: If he's back for week one, I think you're happy.
- 3:22[SPEAKER_01]: I think realistically, he's going to start the year probably on the IR and come back week.
- 3:26[SPEAKER_01]: Five that depends when they open his window all the sudden this offense took a massive hit He really has been their number one rider receiver for the better part of the year especially with Matthew Golden struggling to kind of get his footing as a rookie That pack or seen there's a lot up in the air now I don't think it's all out in front of him anymore I think that they may have seen their window like that go right before their eyes But still the NFL.
- 3:52[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of time can Luke Musgrave step up.
- 3:55[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see
- 3:59[SPEAKER_01]: Greg, I know you're chomping at the bit to ask me one more question, so what is it?
- 4:05[SPEAKER_02]: I want to know what your opinion is on the cults because we did our reaction to the cults yesterday, and you were not available.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_02]: I want to preface it with my opinion, and that was for the first time this year, they got kind of punched in the mouth by a couple of defensive hallfamers, and they didn't respond to it very well, and as long as it doesn't happen over and over, it's not that big of a
- 4:30[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel actually better about this cold scene.
- 4:32[SPEAKER_01]: I think after this loss I did before they turn the ball over six times.
- 4:36[SPEAKER_01]: They got beat by touch them.
- 4:39[SPEAKER_01]: They held Rogers under, but I mean, you shake your head.
- 4:42[SPEAKER_02]: They had the, they got beat by it.
- 4:44[SPEAKER_02]: There's 27 to 7 when the game was over.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_01]: They still rally.
- 4:48[SPEAKER_01]: They get an on-site kick there.
- 4:49[SPEAKER_01]: You get the ball back with a Hail Mary chance.
- 4:51[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that crazier things have happened.
- 4:53[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_01]: It's unpredictable.
- 4:55[SPEAKER_01]: They still only lost by touch them.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_01]: They turned them all over six times.
- 4:59[SPEAKER_01]: They hold Rogers under 200 passing yards.
- 5:02[SPEAKER_01]: They hold Warren under 40 rushing yards.
- 5:05[SPEAKER_01]: They hold the Steelers under 250 totally yards for the game and they lose.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_01]: If you were to come into the game and tell me that that happened without the turnover, as I just said, the cult's dominated this game.
- 5:17[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the downs must kind of,
- 5:21[SPEAKER_01]: left the door open.
- 5:22[SPEAKER_01]: The Colta Chancellor shut the door real quick going up 14 nothing on the road would have been a huge statement.
- 5:28[SPEAKER_02]: It was the T. J.
- 5:29[SPEAKER_02]: What strip sack changed everything.
- 5:31[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
- 5:32[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, the offensive line that's been a plus all year was really exposed by a couple of a plus players.
- 5:39[SPEAKER_01]: They looked like they were just a little bothered by it.
- 5:42[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was
- 5:43[SPEAKER_01]: difficult because the Steelers did get up big where Watts kind of able to pin his ears back and get to the quarterback.
- 5:50[SPEAKER_01]: They were able to establish the run game a little better with Taylor earlier in the game, perhaps Watts a little bit neutralized, but that's just kind of not what happened.
- 5:58[SPEAKER_01]: It's just one of those games where I still think of that game as played at a neutral side, the Colts win eight at a ten times and the Colts lost.
- 6:08[SPEAKER_01]: Lost one of the two this past week, but dare I say Shane Stike and was out coached by my time when I don't think so.
- 6:17[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that the cult still move the ball up and down the field on them.
- 6:20[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they had three turnovers and plus territory.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_01]: That's a huge game.
- 6:24[SPEAKER_02]: They had that outstanding cult offensive line guessing at all moments.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_02]: They, they were on their heels the whole game.
- 6:32[SPEAKER_01]: I still think that the cults for better or worse lost that game.
- 6:36[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that Steelers necessarily went out and won it.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_01]: I've still on the scored 27 points, 24 or 27 were on turnovers.
- 6:45[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I had just I have a hard time looking at it and saying that the Steelers played that good of a game.
- 6:51[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the cults played an F game.
- 6:53[SPEAKER_01]: really for most of it in terms of turnovers in terms of field position and still were somewhat with instructing distance with time at last in your section if they're able to march down the field score touch on your down three, it looks a lot different.
- 7:09[SPEAKER_01]: But it's what makes the NFL greatest unpredictable just when you think you have a pulse on a team, your opinion
- 7:23[SPEAKER_01]: If you left that stealers game thinking that team's a great football team, you're fooling yourself that they are a wildcard around exit if they make the playoffs.
- 7:33[SPEAKER_01]: They're just not not a talent on that team, I don't think.
- 7:52[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're going to start with our five losers.
- 8:01[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot of them this week.
- 8:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there were.
- 8:04[SPEAKER_01]: It was definitely a little harder to find the winners than the losers, but I digress.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_01]: We still have five.
- 8:10[SPEAKER_01]: Trust me.
- 8:11[SPEAKER_01]: Number five, the Atlanta Falcons.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_01]: They were three and two after a huge win at home on Monday night football.
- 8:16[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we owe you.
- 8:17[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 8:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 8:19[SPEAKER_02]: With that was a home in a way thing, but turns out it's not even a home in a way.
- 8:23[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, after that Monday and that football game against the bills, they are now three and five.
- 8:29[SPEAKER_01]: They've lost three straight.
- 8:31[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing to hate with the team.
- 8:33[SPEAKER_01]: Like they don't go and just kind of crap the bed.
- 8:37[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have a horrible vision.
- 8:39[SPEAKER_02]: Robinson's the most front running back in the league.
- 8:41[SPEAKER_01]: What, but
- 8:42[SPEAKER_01]: ultimately I think their season is just kind of nothing either like there's nothing to hate there's just something really like it's just they're kind of middling they always have in their mid They they were not able to kick hit the extra point there to tie the game up
- 8:59[SPEAKER_01]: Now they're two and a half games back of the Panthers in their division.
- 9:03[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a shocking sentence to say.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Pinnick's had to 21 and three touchdowns on 37 attempts, London, nine receptions, 118 yards and three touchdowns.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_01]: It's still just on enough.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of neutralize B-John, especially in the running game, but the Patriots did kind of get up and force the Falcon to air it out.
- 9:21[SPEAKER_01]: B-John still was a factor in the air.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_01]: But,
- 9:24[SPEAKER_01]: It's just really difficult to put a pulse, especially last week their defensive line plays horrible against the dolphins, they get six acts on Drake May and they force two turnovers, it's still just not enough.
- 9:36[SPEAKER_01]: Seasoned over for them.
- 9:37[SPEAKER_01]: They have no hope.
- 9:37[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it three and five in a normal NFC South here.
- 9:42[SPEAKER_01]: I say the books find a way to crap the bed and the Falcons get hot when three straight and all the sudden it's different not this year that that book seems to get the following to that pattern.
- 9:53[SPEAKER_01]: I see this as a law season for the Falcons and they're going to have to make a lot of decisions with that offensive roster in terms of composition and where they want to allocate money in the future.
- 10:05[SPEAKER_01]: This Cincinnati Bengals, another team, just like the Falcons, they were three and four following a win on Thursday night football against the Steelers.
- 10:14[SPEAKER_01]: And then they just two atrocious losses.
- 10:16[SPEAKER_01]: They're three and six now at really no chance.
- 10:18[SPEAKER_01]: Probably to make the playoffs in a really stacked AFC.
- 10:21[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a five and four team not making the playoffs.
- 10:25[SPEAKER_01]: There's a five and three team not making the playoffs right now.
- 10:28[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough road for them, especially with Joe Burrow,
- 10:34[SPEAKER_01]: probably going to come back at all.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine if there's a good team not going to make the playoffs.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_02]: The Bengals aren't even a good team.
- 10:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with that completely.
- 10:42[SPEAKER_01]: I think Joe Flacco in his last two games here says that line.
- 10:48[SPEAKER_01]: 693 yards, 6 touchdowns, two interceptions in the last two losses.
- 10:53[SPEAKER_01]: They're often as averaging 40 points in those two games and they are own two.
- 10:58[SPEAKER_01]: I expect them probably to sell off some guys at the deadline because uh... trade tricks in mice will get whatever you can form even with the injury risk you're probably you'd be lucky to get a six round pick honestly with with the injury that he's got you think so they'd be bed mounting teams are going to be bed mounting lead pass version we'll see i don't know i'm not as convinced no good for sure you think now i i i would be shocked but we'll see could happen
- 11:24[SPEAKER_01]: I think Logan Wilson is a guy that's kind of been just gruntled with the team in terms of his line-up status I see him being on.
- 11:31[SPEAKER_01]: I think that their roster construction just isn't going to work in today's NFL.
- 11:36[SPEAKER_01]: They've got 36% of their cap allocated to three guys, a quarterback and two-wide receivers.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think that that's the way that you can construct a roster and expect to be.
- 11:46[SPEAKER_01]: a competitive NFL team year in a year out, especially when you're quarterback can't stay on the field for anything.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_02]: Because Joe Montana, Jerry Rice and John Taylor wouldn't have been any good if you couldn't feel anybody around him.
- 11:58[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I was great as they were.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the way it is.
- 12:01[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is.
- 12:02[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, unfortunately, the Bengals just have a way too many weaknesses defensively to make up for whatever they're able to provide.
- 12:10[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they've scored 40 points.
- 12:13[SPEAKER_01]: averaging the last two games and they've lost that's pretty atrocious especially the way they lost yesterday wow that was a tough one coach on the house either yeah number three they are the only winner on this list this past week but the Los Angeles chargers they lost I
- 12:30[SPEAKER_01]: would think probably their second best player in Joe Walt for the rest of the season after his ankle injury.
- 12:36[SPEAKER_01]: They are on their third string left tackle after they lost her shot later early to before the season even started to a knee injury now now all who move from right tackle to left tackle is going to be out to seem like they were going to have a good offensive line and now it's yep.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_01]: The numbers show that they're way different team with, and without all, they're 5 and 1 with him.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_01]: They average 25 points of game.
- 13:00[SPEAKER_01]: With Aldham, they're 1 and 2, they average 21.
- 13:03[SPEAKER_01]: So essentially he's worth a touchdown versus a field goal in terms of an offensive possession.
- 13:07[SPEAKER_01]: That can be enough to win or lose you a lot of NFL games, especially in a league that pride itself on being close.
- 13:14[SPEAKER_01]: Their record's still good.
- 13:15[SPEAKER_01]: They're still in a playoff spot.
- 13:16[SPEAKER_01]: I do expect a regression with a tough schedule down the road, though.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_01]: I think that this is a 6 and 3 team that you might see missed the playoffs.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_02]: That might be the good team that misses the playoffs.
- 13:27[SPEAKER_02]: I was talking about.
- 13:28[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
- 13:28[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_01]: Number two, I don't think you'll be surprised to hear this one.
- 13:33[SPEAKER_01]: The Green Bay Packers.
- 13:35[SPEAKER_01]: NFL fans were just treated quite frankly to a disgusting game between the Panthers and the Packers.
- 13:40[SPEAKER_01]: 16 to 13 is not really what you ever want to see, especially in the fashion.
- 13:44[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, the Packers didn't put in the game.
- 13:46[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
- 13:47[SPEAKER_02]: And I believe the Panthers pointed six times and had to turn over, and they still couldn't be.
- 13:53[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, just when we let the packers last week on the show, and we put them back into a least at us, I think they proved they're not a legit super vocal contender right now with the inconsistency.
- 14:05[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be really hard.
- 14:06[SPEAKER_02]: What do you seem flashes and they're still young and if they can trend up at some point, I wouldn't count them out yet, but they're starting to show signs that we can't trust.
- 14:16[SPEAKER_01]: Bucks, eagles, ramps.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm taking a picture.
- 14:19[SPEAKER_01]: Good point.
- 14:19[SPEAKER_01]: Do those three teams.
- 14:20[SPEAKER_01]: Lions, just with lines with the, I don't, I don't think the backers when they're division.
- 14:25[SPEAKER_01]: I really, I think the lions just are steadfast and their pursuit and probably end up finishing this thing off.
- 14:31[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to talk about the lines this week, but
- 14:35[SPEAKER_01]: pretty bad luck.
- 14:36[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting loss to say the least.
- 14:38[SPEAKER_01]: I think love had a horrible red zone in reception.
- 14:42[SPEAKER_01]: Their defense can't stop doubt old.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_01]: He had 130 yards, two touchdowns on average and over five a carry.
- 14:48[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't sack young.
- 14:50[SPEAKER_01]: They were credited for one sack for zero yards, which you would think with that past defense and the kind of the Panthers were throwing the ball a lot in that game.
- 15:00[SPEAKER_01]: You're only able to
- 15:03[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, the lions are lurking even after a loss at home.
- 15:07[SPEAKER_01]: This kind of how I view it.
- 15:09[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of a fluke, he lost with the lions.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_02]: The hackers were a little, that was concerning.
- 15:15[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't losing craft as we mentioned.
- 15:16[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is a character trade.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_01]: I think at this point, they've been really inconsistent kind of the whole year.
- 15:22[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we've kind of pushed under the rug.
- 15:23[SPEAKER_01]: Is there winning games?
- 15:25[SPEAKER_01]: But this week, I think that monster read, it's ugly head.
- 15:33[SPEAKER_01]: Washington.
- 15:35[SPEAKER_01]: Someone tried to tell you.
- 15:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you did actually.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_01]: You were absolutely spot on, but this season's over with Daniels.
- 15:43[SPEAKER_01]: I think that even if he's healthy, they were going to struggle to get into that final playoff spot, but with Adam, they have no chance.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_01]: With him, I would have given him a sliver.
- 15:52[SPEAKER_02]: Last year, he might have been the worst thing that could have happened to that franchise.
- 15:55[SPEAKER_02]: You think so.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because instead of retooling around Daniels, they try to plug in different pieces that didn't fit and now they have to restart again.
- 16:05[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that you're going to see them try to trade some guys at the deadline, but I do feel there probably gear and up towards the top 10 pick.
- 16:15[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
- 16:16[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Mario does not he's a not a bad backup, but boy, he's not Jay Daniels and I that's a division that is pretty competitive even with the Eagles kind of out in front big time, but we'll see All right.
- 16:33[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I know the reason we're all here you're winners of the week.
- 16:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there were not as many winners I am was kind of scrapping to find five, but I think I've done a good job.
- 16:44[SPEAKER_01]: I know one
- 16:45[SPEAKER_01]: You do, I'm curious to hear who you think my number five is the San Francisco 49ers.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they've had one single player healthy the entire year, even the guys they're trying out there on game day are beat up.
- 17:00[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is, but Matt Jones has kept him afloat.
- 17:05[SPEAKER_01]: I think he deserves to be the start of the rest of the way out.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a
- 17:08[SPEAKER_01]: 1832 passing yards in seven starts, he's averaging 262 per game, 10 touchdowns, to five in receptions.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_01]: Perty is a four touchdown, the four in our section ratio and the two games that he has started this year.
- 17:23[SPEAKER_01]: Christian McCaffrey leads their wider receiver room in receiving yards by 263 yards.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_01]: And he also has almost 600 rushing yards.
- 17:33[SPEAKER_01]: So he is well over special 1200 totally yards on the season, which is completely outrageous.
- 17:41[SPEAKER_01]: He's on pace right now for 2400 totally yards.
- 17:44[SPEAKER_01]: I think that would break a league record.
- 17:46[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not 100% sure on that stat.
- 17:48[SPEAKER_01]: I'd have to be fact check.
- 17:50[SPEAKER_01]: Shane Hans found a way in a very tough division.
- 17:53[SPEAKER_01]: I'm interested to see what they do in terms of their quarterback, but they have really overachieved
- 17:58[SPEAKER_01]: where they should be based on kind of the situation that they have had in their organization.
- 18:03[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great coach.
- 18:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that if there's been a season to prove that, it's this the season.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_01]: Number four of the Chicago Bears, it was not pretty, but they're five and three.
- 18:15[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough to put them in.
- 18:17[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_02]: You know, here was an important win though.
- 18:20[SPEAKER_01]: They scored 47 albeit against a pretty atrocious defense.
- 18:25[SPEAKER_01]: Listen to scaleably, I'm stat line.
- 18:26[SPEAKER_01]: 280 yards passing for three touchdowns, 53 rushing yards, two receptions for 22 yards and a touchdowns.
- 18:36[SPEAKER_02]: That'll get the job done.
- 18:37[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well.
- 18:39[SPEAKER_01]: It's unique.
- 18:41[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I've ever seen a step.
- 18:43[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's just been Johnson as unique as for sure.
- 18:47[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
- 18:48[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is the offense that been Johnson and vision kind of what you saw against the Bengals in terms of basically being able to do it ever the hell you want to do.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_01]: Is it sustainable probably not scoring 47 is not sustainable in any capacity.
- 19:01[SPEAKER_02]: They're not doing that against good teams.
- 19:02[SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree with that.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Manungai had 176 yards on the ground.
- 19:10[SPEAKER_01]: Level 1, 6 or 7, 118.
- 19:11[SPEAKER_02]: I still want to thank the Chicago Bears for drafting.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_02]: Level 1.
- 19:17[SPEAKER_02]: But he's a good one.
- 19:18[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he both of those guys are good one.
- 19:20[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he won that game.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_02]: He just trucked a bit in the end.
- 19:23[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I felt like kind of a dipshit the last basically eight weeks when I said that I would prefer the quotes take a loved one over Warren.
- 19:33[SPEAKER_02]: Then it started to look silly at now.
- 19:35[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't look as silly.
- 19:36[SPEAKER_01]: It does not look as silly as a beast.
- 19:39[SPEAKER_01]: With all that being said, are they a playoff team?
- 19:42[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not.
- 19:43[SPEAKER_01]: Are they close to being a playoff team?
- 19:45[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
- 19:47[SPEAKER_02]: But, well, they're five and three now.
- 19:50[SPEAKER_02]: They get a good winner too, and they're right there.
- 19:53[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that...
- 19:55[SPEAKER_01]: I still don't think they're a player.
- 19:56[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, I don't believe in them either.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_01]: Number three, the Seattle Seahawks, Jackson Smith and Jake was really all that kind of needs to be said.
- 20:06[SPEAKER_01]: I think Donald's a perfect defense man.
- 20:08[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect quarterback for this.
- 20:09[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even want to talk about defense because I don't want to talk about what I see in this offense.
- 20:12[SPEAKER_01]: And that is just incredible efficiency in the past in game.
- 20:15[SPEAKER_01]: What Sand Arnold has been able to do.
- 20:16[SPEAKER_01]: He is third and quarterback rating this season, which I who's in front of him is what I want to know, because he is put together almost
- 20:24[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect quarterback season in terms of what he's been able to do as far as getting Smith and Jig with the ball balancing out there offense There's just so much to like they are a Lee elite elite on defense They took the hard route to get to this point.
- 20:39[SPEAKER_01]: They could have kept Juno They could have kept DK Metcalf and just said we want to run it back.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_02]: We were 10 seven and barely missed the game He goes bucks and Rams do the seahawks belong in that conversation
- 20:49[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm picking them against the Rams, which is why I say no, but they're really close.
- 20:56[SPEAKER_01]: I think in that conversation, you know, they gamble on, hey, we're going to, we want to make Smith and Jigba our featured wider receiver.
- 21:05[SPEAKER_01]: We believe in him.
- 21:05[SPEAKER_01]: We want and believe that Sam can lead us to a Super Bowl.
- 21:10[SPEAKER_01]: We go assign them.
- 21:11[SPEAKER_01]: They made the tough calls.
- 21:12[SPEAKER_01]: They, they paid off.
- 21:14[SPEAKER_01]: They look incredible.
- 21:17[SPEAKER_01]: they are also road warriors there for no on the road this year i think that uh... uh... mic and McDonald's lost one road game his tenure as a coach and the nfl which is completely ridiculous to say that the fact that that that exists that baffles me but here they are you know i i had picked them as my division winner
- 21:41[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that ramp seems awfully good though, but you see all to our playoff team.
- 21:45[SPEAKER_01]: They're making the playoffs.
- 21:46[SPEAKER_01]: No question too.
- 21:47[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting out of the West, which is something I didn't Didn't think would probably happen.
- 21:52[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the ramps were going to struggle with You don't think it might be the 40 numbers.
- 21:58[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I just depends on if they roll with Max Jones.
- 22:01[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I Think so, but I think you put pretty back in that lineup.
- 22:06[SPEAKER_01]: You see what Brock pretty does with sub
- 22:08[SPEAKER_01]: sub-talent with inferior talent to the rest of the league and it's not good.
- 22:12[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't look good when he doesn't have all pro-wine up around them.
- 22:16[SPEAKER_01]: So I think Jones is the guy for that reason.
- 22:18[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see My number two, I'm gonna keep it short and sweet at the Baltimore Ravens.
- 22:23[SPEAKER_02]: They are a playoff team just admitted and a contender Yeah, if everything comes together and they they still don't look like a team that's a contender right now But it's possible.
- 22:34[SPEAKER_01]: They're winning that division
- 22:39[SPEAKER_01]: They take the lead in early December.
- 22:44[SPEAKER_02]: They're marshes that good.
- 22:47[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Steelers are better than you think.
- 22:49[SPEAKER_02]: They're not great.
- 22:50[SPEAKER_02]: They're not, they're not going to win anything, but they're definitely capable of beating anybody any day.
- 22:55[SPEAKER_01]: My number one, the Buffalo Bills.
- 22:58[SPEAKER_01]: That's my the one I said.
- 23:00[SPEAKER_01]: Josh Allen.
- 23:00[SPEAKER_01]: No one of them is now five and one against homes in the regular season.
- 23:04[SPEAKER_01]: The bill's held him to the lowest completion percentage of his career.
- 23:07[SPEAKER_01]: They got 15 pressures, which is the most he's spaced all year.
- 23:10[SPEAKER_01]: They also sack him three times.
- 23:13[SPEAKER_01]: Got a lover.
- 23:13[SPEAKER_01]: So he's good one.
- 23:14[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're they're I.
- 23:16[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to point out I think their run defense looks much improved their front four looked a lot better even without at all over there I think his audition can only improve that.
- 23:24[SPEAKER_02]: I you know, I will say that chiefs are really bad on the ground trying to tell everyone who jumped off this bandwagon that That it was silly that the bills were better than the team that had been they had been fielding during those losses and They had keep pieces missing.
- 23:40[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and
- 23:41[SPEAKER_02]: Again, the rest of that roster probably isn't a Super Bowl roster, but it's a good enough roster when you pair it with Josh Allen, that they're the favorite to win it all.
- 23:51[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's fair.
- 23:52[SPEAKER_01]: I still think that they're, I don't know.
- 23:57[SPEAKER_01]: I think they won the wrong game.
- 23:59[SPEAKER_01]: If you want the truth, I think that chiefs are an awfully hard team to beat twice, especially once you've got the, you think so.
- 24:06[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 24:10[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and that may be true, but I'd just say that the Vandy Reed gets his hands on Sean McDermott and the playoffs.
- 24:16[SPEAKER_01]: I would expect the chiefs to not look like they did last night.
- 24:20[SPEAKER_01]: This is what always happens.
- 24:21[SPEAKER_01]: We zero every time we say all this is that the bills are finally figured the chiefs out and then every time when it matters the most.
- 24:27[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, well, any Reed figures.
- 24:29[SPEAKER_02]: The bills are finally figured the chiefs will see.
- 24:31[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they figured about it, but they're just better.
- 24:34[SPEAKER_00]: This is unequivocally my favorite teams most likely to win all year.
- 24:51[SPEAKER_01]: I think boss I don't know if this list got changed the rest of the year to be honest at the order of change I better don't know.
- 24:57[SPEAKER_01]: I think when you hear my teams you're gonna you're gonna be singing a different tune
- 25:01[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, man, every time we think we've got a beat on who the best five teams are they changed?
- 25:08[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm going to give my best shot.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_01]: Number five, the Rams, enough said.
- 25:14[SPEAKER_01]: I think Matthew Stafford looks incredible.
- 25:16[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Puka is out of this world.
- 25:19[SPEAKER_01]: The Vontay Adams is Matthew Stafford's favorite red zone target.
- 25:23[SPEAKER_01]: They just, their defense is really good.
- 25:31[SPEAKER_01]: They go about it.
- 25:32[SPEAKER_01]: They don't, but it's frustrating, but Sean McVay as long as he has Matthew Stafford is a brilliant coach.
- 25:40[SPEAKER_01]: He does struggle without, well, if him quarterback, which I guess most probably would, but me went to the Super Bowl Jared Gough, so.
- 25:47[SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
- 25:48[SPEAKER_01]: Don't hate on Jared Goff.
- 25:50[SPEAKER_01]: They don't, you don't have to, don't knock him down to build someone else up.
- 25:54[SPEAKER_01]: He is a really good quarterback.
- 25:56[SPEAKER_01]: He's all right.
- 25:57[SPEAKER_01]: My definitely got enough to be a franchise group.
- 25:59[SPEAKER_01]: My number four, the Philadelphia Eagles.
- 26:03[SPEAKER_01]: They were on by this week and maybe I just didn't have to see whatever they kind of have going on.
- 26:09[SPEAKER_01]: But.
- 26:10[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I just, they're going to be there in the end.
- 26:12[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just all admit it and quit trying to play cool.
- 26:15[SPEAKER_01]: And, oh, I was the first on the beat that the Eagles aren't going to be good.
- 26:19[SPEAKER_02]: They might not be on your list next week.
- 26:22[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
- 26:22[SPEAKER_01]: Who do they play next week?
- 26:23[SPEAKER_02]: They're just such a weak, weak franchise.
- 26:25[SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
- 26:25[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, weak, do we?
- 26:26[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but I'm just, I'm tired of being the guy that says it.
- 26:31[SPEAKER_01]: But it's true.
- 26:32[SPEAKER_01]: it is true but it won't be it won't there'll be in the NFC championship game we just need to mentally prepare for that whether we want to or not number three the bill by the way they're in green bay next week on one and out football well that's to take who the hell knows what's going to happen exactly you want to talk about a 50 50 toss up that is about as close as it gets that's right
- 26:59[SPEAKER_01]: the bills number three i just said it a second ago i'm gonna say it again they've been off my list a few times they're on my list again i know they're your number one uh... but i don't know i i still there's still some things i want to see cleaned up before i say they're the most likely to win and i think that right now they're not even leaving their division so in the i hate to say that that patriotic schedule is like absolute breeze even the rest of the way out
- 27:32[SPEAKER_01]: That one feels good to be right about Bill.
- 27:34[SPEAKER_02]: You're not right about it, though.
- 27:36[SPEAKER_01]: I said I didn't say they're great, so they're a playoff team and they would compete for the bills for the division and I think I'm going to be right on that.
- 27:43[SPEAKER_01]: Number two, you don't believe in them, but I do.
- 27:46[SPEAKER_01]: The Denver Broncos.
- 27:48[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's other Patriots.
- 27:49[SPEAKER_02]: I'm proud of you.
- 27:50[SPEAKER_01]: No, thank you.
- 27:51[SPEAKER_01]: I would not put no.
- 27:52[SPEAKER_01]: The Patriots are not.
- 27:54[SPEAKER_01]: The Patriots are, you know, the Broncos I agree.
- 27:56[SPEAKER_01]: Probably the eighth best team in the AFC.
- 27:59[SPEAKER_01]: They just happen to have played the most cupcake schedule in the entirely up to this point, well, it will continue.
- 28:06[SPEAKER_01]: The Broncos defense just doesn't break.
- 28:08[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
- 28:10[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to say it other than that, like they'll give you, well, what would give that away yesterday, giving something away, they just don't give up touchdowns.
- 28:20[SPEAKER_01]: Like they fly out, say, we'll let you throw the ball around the yard a little bit, we'll take three and run with it, not give up seven.
- 28:28[SPEAKER_01]: That was without Pastor Tane as well.
- 28:31[SPEAKER_01]: is there offense kind of gross yet kind of is I won't lie they don't ever really look comfortable what I will say is that they've played against some really good defenses to that Eagles defense were next looked kind of
- 28:47[SPEAKER_01]: pedestrian, very pedestrian against and all the sudden turns it on.
- 28:50[SPEAKER_01]: That's a really elite equals defense.
- 28:52[SPEAKER_01]: This Texan's defensive line and defense is a whole is really elite.
- 28:56[SPEAKER_01]: But when it mattered the most, bonus continues to find a way to get it done.
- 29:00[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's a character traded this point.
- 29:02[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's a one off.
- 29:04[SPEAKER_01]: He's continued to do it weekend and a week out when he needs to make plays.
- 29:07[SPEAKER_01]: He does your shake in your head.
- 29:09[SPEAKER_01]: No, but that
- 29:11[SPEAKER_02]: They wouldn't need to make plays at the end of the game if he wasn't seven for nineteen for a hundred and sixty yards, but that's fun.
- 29:17[SPEAKER_02]: That's what's fun about this.
- 29:20[SPEAKER_02]: So you're excusing for three quarters because he leads him to a field goal at the end of a game.
- 29:25[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hey, just get down on the matters.
- 29:27[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
- 29:28[SPEAKER_01]: Just get down on the matters.
- 29:29[SPEAKER_01]: Is a winner?
- 29:32[SPEAKER_02]: If we'd be singing a different tune, so far he still looks like you're out of your mind putting the
- 29:39[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Broncos defense would pose a lot of issues to that bill's offense right now.
- 29:43[SPEAKER_01]: They're very run-dependent and I think that they have the corners to be able to cover Shakir to cover Dawson Knox, like they're they're a good defense.
- 29:50[SPEAKER_01]: They match up against anybody in that league.
- 29:54[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the bill's defense is good enough to prevent the Broncos.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a much better Broncos team than what what Saul Buffalo last year.
- 30:01[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're very developed.
- 30:03[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they have more playmaking.
- 30:04[SPEAKER_01]: They actually have a competent run game now between Dobbins and Arjay Arvie.
- 30:11[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know, don't shoot the messenger.
- 30:14[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying what the TV's telling me.
- 30:16[SPEAKER_01]: And it's telling me that they're seven and two.
- 30:18[SPEAKER_02]: That's all you're looking at, then yeah, they are contender, but if you're watching the games, the last two games, if you tried watching the Broncos for three quarters, you'd say that was the worst quarter back in the NFL.
- 30:31[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I turned it on the fourth quarter.
- 30:33[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not going to be good for the first three.
- 30:35[SPEAKER_01]: And then I will watch an all-pro quarterback take control.
- 30:41[SPEAKER_01]: number one, they've been number one, most of the years the books.
- 30:44[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to buy a week to track me.
- 30:46[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to get bucky Irving back.
- 30:49[SPEAKER_01]: They're offence, even with all the injuries.
- 30:52[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they still have a mecca book.
- 30:53[SPEAKER_01]: They still have Kate on.
- 30:54[SPEAKER_01]: They still have a good one to attend.
- 30:56[SPEAKER_01]: And really a three back tent or trio between Sean Tucker for Todd White and bucky Irving.
- 31:01[SPEAKER_01]: I still have complete belief in Baker Mayfield.
- 31:04[SPEAKER_01]: Mike Evans is going to come back before the seasons over.
- 31:06[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get Chris Godwin back healthy.
- 31:08[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
- 31:10[SPEAKER_01]: They're six and two, and they've been basically without two or three of their best players the entire year.
- 31:17[SPEAKER_01]: So, let that speak for itself.
- 31:20[SPEAKER_01]: They're in a really easy division.
- 31:21[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably going to be the ones he'd have home field.
- 31:24[SPEAKER_01]: I know Michelle said we'll
- 31:26[SPEAKER_01]: hand teams are going to love come down and play in Tampa Bay come postseason.
- 31:31[SPEAKER_01]: It's also potentially 80 degrees and it's been but 20 degrees in Philadelphia.
- 31:36[SPEAKER_02]: What they need to do is avoid going to Philadelphia.
- 31:38[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I think that you're going to see that.
- 31:40[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
- 31:41[SPEAKER_01]: That's because their division is bad.
- 31:42[SPEAKER_01]: They're, I mean, they haven't even, they haven't played the Panthers twice.
- 31:46[SPEAKER_01]: They've played the Saints once.
- 31:48[SPEAKER_01]: They still have another game against the Falcons.
- 31:50[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're going to pick up four wins probably.
- 31:52[SPEAKER_01]: They're I expect them to be six now against this division.
- 31:56[SPEAKER_02]: I would probably put them number one on the list because I think they're the most likely team to reach the Super Bowl.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_02]: I also think Baltimore belongs back on the list and I'm not quite sure the cults are in the well-five.
- 32:10[SPEAKER_01]: I will say that the cults were the first team out and that had partly to do with the Rams did be at the cults.
- 32:17[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
- 32:18[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I will say that there were some extreme issues that led to that.
- 32:27[SPEAKER_01]: I still have complete beliefs in this cold steam.
- 32:29[SPEAKER_01]: I don't let don't get twisted.
- 32:31[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's not it has nothing to do with the cults not being worthy I just think there are five teams that are better.
- 32:37[SPEAKER_02]: I probably have them at number eight, but I'm just thrilled that they're there.
- 32:41[SPEAKER_01]: I think that you saw some concern with with especially kind of saw old Daniel Jones kind of rear.
- 32:48[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually head in terms of the turn up.
- 32:51[SPEAKER_01]: Es just sloppy ball management in the pocket.
- 32:54[SPEAKER_01]: making a couple just goofball throws.
- 32:57[SPEAKER_02]: You got to consider the Ravens because if they get in the playoffs, they're serious contender.
- 33:01[SPEAKER_02]: You need to consider them for this list next week when they continue to win.
- 33:04[SPEAKER_01]: Why only caveat to that is that they've never been to the Super Bowl for more, like they've not even been there.
- 33:12[SPEAKER_01]: So sure every year they're serious.
- 33:14[SPEAKER_01]: But neither's Josh Allen and neither has anybody else, except for Josh Allen has been
- 33:23[SPEAKER_01]: the marginally, I've been to one AFC championship.
- 33:26[SPEAKER_01]: Josh has doubled them up.
- 33:28[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.
- 33:30[SPEAKER_02]: And Josh has been really, really close.
- 33:32[SPEAKER_01]: Josh also did lose perhaps the greatest football game ever in the division around.
- 33:38[SPEAKER_02]: Lamar Jackson's lost somewhere.
- 33:39[SPEAKER_02]: He was pretty good too and some really games that came down to the end that if they go differently, they probably win the Super Bowl as well.
- 33:47[SPEAKER_02]: I think you make the same argument for both of us.
- 33:49[SPEAKER_01]: I think you could.
- 33:50[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I personally believe in what Josh Allen can do in the playoffs more.
- 33:54[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you turn Josh Allen into a drop-back passer,
- 33:59[SPEAKER_01]: He can win you games when you force Lamar to stay in the pocket, though the ball, I think he's incredibly on script.
- 34:05[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they do a great job of highlighting his skill, but when you just force him to become Josh Allen in the pocket, he, all the sudden starts Aaron Balls out a little bit, gets a little wily and he's not a consistent passer, what he is.
- 34:19[SPEAKER_02]: is he has incredible downfield vision if a defense gives him open receiver he's going to find them.
- 34:27[SPEAKER_02]: He said real trouble against some great past defenses though.
- 34:30[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's true and I still their playmakers are the same as they always happen.
- 34:35[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just see as they just say flowers as his only wide receiver.
- 34:39[SPEAKER_01]: Andrews and Isaiah likely are both good tight hands, but
- 34:44[SPEAKER_02]: I think you need to consider them being on your list.
- 34:46[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not in a powerful, but in most likely.
- 34:49[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's true.
- 34:50[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not.
- 34:51[SPEAKER_01]: I almost put them there this week to be honest with you.
- 34:53[SPEAKER_01]: I would say that they're probably seven.
- 34:56[SPEAKER_02]: And I was surprised you don't have the chief slender list.
- 34:58[SPEAKER_02]: Ah.
- 35:00[SPEAKER_01]: That runoff fence is really concerning.
- 35:03[SPEAKER_01]: I think it might just be bad enough that.
- 35:07[SPEAKER_01]: And I say that if it's Bill's cheese for the AFC championship, I would 100% take the chiefs every single time.
- 35:14[SPEAKER_01]: So I would take the bills, but I'd be very happy with it.
- 35:17[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the chiefs are going to win their division.
- 35:20[SPEAKER_02]: Don't think so.
- 35:21[SPEAKER_02]: So going on the road the whole time, I know my home's is down at the Broncos are a strange call away from being eight and one in the best record in the NFL.
- 35:33[SPEAKER_01]: That call has not been called one other time.
- 35:36[SPEAKER_01]: This entire season.
- 35:36[SPEAKER_01]: It happened though.
- 35:37[SPEAKER_01]: But it happened for our Indianapolis school.
- 35:39[SPEAKER_02]: No, I know, but the plate, he did it.
- 35:40[SPEAKER_01]: No, absolutely did it.
- 35:42[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 35:42[SPEAKER_02]: But it happens every single time, too.
- 35:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 35:46[SPEAKER_02]: This is a strange call.
- 35:50[SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, we're going to have a culture report later this week.
- 35:54[SPEAKER_02]: We hope that you can join us.
- 35:55[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
- 35:56[SPEAKER_02]: And you and I will make our picks later in the week as well.
- 35:59[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't done that the last few weeks because
- 36:02[SPEAKER_02]: the sectionals were so busy but now we're down to just a few teams so we'll be able to get back on that and make the NFL a focus here for the rest of the year.
- 36:10[SPEAKER_02]: Anything else?
- 36:11[SPEAKER_01]: We're still seeing the board really well.
- 36:14[SPEAKER_02]: You and I are first and second in that.
- 36:16[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, that producer's too.
- 36:17[SPEAKER_01]: He's also seeing the bear with pretty well as well.
- 36:20[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a three horse race now, respectively, to JSTU and Michelle Garmin.
- 36:27[SPEAKER_01]: They've had a couple of good weeks the last two weeks, we've had a nine good week, so I'm gonna take our track record with that.
- 36:36[SPEAKER_02]: You heard that Jay and Michelle, you're done.
- 36:37[SPEAKER_02]: You hear that?
- 36:39[SPEAKER_02]: Bill says you're done.
- 36:40[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I respect the bone knowledge, but it's tough.
- 36:45[SPEAKER_01]: And then whoever's behind now, I don't even scroll that far to see, but.
- 36:51[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 36:52[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's always looking for the upset.
- 36:54[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
- 36:58[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for listening.
- 37:00[SPEAKER_02]: The Central Endamist Portrait Report is a product of ITG media.
- 37:05[SPEAKER_02]: And I love Susie.