Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Cynthia Whitaker, VP of Operations & Chief Nursing Officer at Guthrie Corning Hospital
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- 0:30- Welcome everyone,
- 0:32to the Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:33I'm Ra Mohammed, writer
- 0:35and moderator with Becker's Healthcare,
- 0:37and I'm absolutely thrilled to have with me today.
- 0:38Cynthia Whitaker, vice President of Operations
- 0:41and Chief Nursing Officer at Gut three Corning Hospital.
- 0:44Cynthia, it's very nice
- 0:45to have you on the podcast today. How are you?
- 0:48- I'm great, thank you, Mariah.
- 0:49I am honored to be here today.
- 0:51- Yeah. So glad to have you, um, too, get us started.
- 0:53Would you mind please just introducing yourself
- 0:56and telling us a bit about your background?
- 0:58- Sure. Um, so I'm Cindy Whitaker.
- 1:00I have been the Chief nursing officer
- 1:03for Corning Hospital since 2020.
- 1:05I actually started my career with Guthrie, uh, 12 years ago
- 1:10as a brand new nurse in the ICU at one
- 1:13of our sister hospitals, uh, Robert Packer Hospital.
- 1:16And back then, you know, I never really had a clear idea of
- 1:19what my career path was going to look like,
- 1:21and I loved critical care nursing.
- 1:24So during that time, I really thought I'm,
- 1:26I'm gonna be a critical care nurse for my whole career.
- 1:28It was, it was truly a passion.
- 1:30Um, but I kind of found myself in the role
- 1:34of charge nurse in the ICU.
- 1:36And after doing that for, you know, over a year,
- 1:39the staff would would say to me,
- 1:40you know, you're really good at this.
- 1:42You should, you should think about, you know,
- 1:43being the manager one day.
- 1:44You know, we really like it when you're here and,
- 1:46and you keep things controlled and you're calm.
- 1:49And you know, back then I was like, yeah, you know,
- 1:52whatever, this is great, but I'm,
- 1:54I'm gonna be a critical care nurse, you know, forever
- 1:56because I love this so much.
- 1:58And actually, uh,
- 1:59Guthrie restructured their nursing leadership about a few
- 2:03years after I was in the ICU
- 2:06and a position came up for an assistant manager on one
- 2:09of the trauma med surg units.
- 2:11And I thought, Hmm,
- 2:13this is an opportunity I never really thought about
- 2:16for myself, but I had some life changes.
- 2:19I had just had, um, my first, my first child
- 2:22and the 12 hour shifts weren't working great for us anymore.
- 2:25So I thought, you know, let me give this a try
- 2:28and, you know, I went for it.
- 2:29And, and I got the position.
- 2:31And after being in that position for six months,
- 2:33I was actually promoted to the manager of that unit, uh,
- 2:37because, you know, I was so successful
- 2:39with forming relationships with the staff,
- 2:41improving engagement and staff satisfaction.
- 2:44Um, after doing that for about a year, they decided
- 2:48to give me another unit.
- 2:49So I had a total of 60 med surg, uh, beds.
- 2:53And I had an assistant manager
- 2:54and an educator that worked with me.
- 2:56And we were very successful as a team, again,
- 2:58improving staff engagement
- 3:00and patient outcomes, um, throughput.
- 3:03Uh, we did, we did very well.
- 3:05And when the chief nurse position came open at Corning
- 3:09Hospital, which is a smaller hospital compared to
- 3:12where I was at, I thought, you know, I never thought
- 3:15of myself as being a chief nurse,
- 3:17but this is an opportunity that's coming at the right time
- 3:20and I think I'm gonna go for it.
- 3:22And they took a chance on me
- 3:24and I started in this job, you know, right.
- 3:27Kind of in the middle of the pandemic.
- 3:29And it was stressful and we struggled a bit,
- 3:32and I've learned so much.
- 3:34But it has been, um, it's been a wild ride.
- 3:37It's been a very successful ride.
- 3:39And in April of this year, Guthrie decided
- 3:42to do some restructuring
- 3:44and they joined their VP of operations
- 3:47with the chief nurse role.
- 3:48And I was, I was awarded that role at Corning.
- 3:51And, you know, it has, it has been great so far,
- 3:55learning more of the operation side, how, you know, EVS,
- 3:59food and nutrition rehab, all those services fit in
- 4:02with nursing operations.
- 4:04Uh, it makes sense.
- 4:05And, uh, it, yeah, like I said, it's, it's going very well.
- 4:08And right now in my career, I'm just open to seeing
- 4:11what opportunities continue to come along for me.
- 4:15- Yeah, absolutely. Well,
- 4:16congratulations on all your success.
- 4:18I'm sure you have worked very hard to achieve all of it.
- 4:22Um, for the next question I wanted to ask you is,
- 4:25can you tell me about your most successful project
- 4:27or initiative from the last year?
- 4:29What issues were you trying to solve?
- 4:30And also what drove the success?
- 4:33- Yeah, so I think during the pandemic, um, you know,
- 4:37hospitals came across a lot of challenges
- 4:39that maybe they didn't face, uh, prior.
- 4:42And one of the things that,
- 4:44that happened here at Corning was an increase, a major
- 4:47increase in hospital acquired infections, especially during,
- 4:50uh, the year E 2022.
- 4:53That's really when the region that
- 4:55that we're in upstate New York started
- 4:58to see a rise in the covid positive patients.
- 5:01Now, Corning Hospital is a 65 bed community hospital,
- 5:05and one thing we saw
- 5:07through the pandemic is an increase in acuity.
- 5:09You know, we got sicker patients, patients
- 5:11that we were unable to transfer out
- 5:12because their, the bed availability
- 5:14wasn't there in the community.
- 5:16So we had to, you know, adapt and be flexible
- 5:20and bring more resources in to, to care for these patients.
- 5:23But with sicker patients, along comes with the chance of
- 5:27more hospital acquired infections, more falls, you know,
- 5:29it really impacts your quality outcomes.
- 5:32So during 2022, we saw a major rise in our ,
- 5:37our C diff and our CLABSI rates,
- 5:40and just not something that we ever really had to deal with.
- 5:44We, we never really had a lot of patients
- 5:46with Foley catheters or central lines.
- 5:49So I did some research
- 5:52and I thought about how can we,
- 5:55how can we handle this differently than we used to?
- 5:57We, we need more awareness around
- 6:00hospital acquired infections and
- 6:01around the lines that we have here.
- 6:04So in March of 2022, I started, um,
- 6:07something called a daily device huddle.
- 6:10And what we do in this is, is each morning our nurse leaders
- 6:15have a safety huddle on their unit where they talk
- 6:18with their staff, the frontline nurses,
- 6:20which patients have a central line,
- 6:22which patients have a Foley catheter,
- 6:25and which patients, um, may have AAC diff order
- 6:29that we still haven't collected.
- 6:31And they talk about why is the line in,
- 6:34when can it come out,
- 6:35what are the barriers to it coming out?
- 6:37Are there alternative devices
- 6:39that we can use external catheters so we can,
- 6:42we can get these out earlier.
- 6:44And then they come to this device huddle.
- 6:46And what's unique about device huddle is the presence
- 6:50of the executive leadership team.
- 6:51So I'm there, our president
- 6:54of the hospital attends our chief medical officer,
- 6:57our infection preventionist, and the nurse managers come
- 7:00and they report out on, you know,
- 7:02I have a Foley in this room.
- 7:03It's in because of this, it's gonna come out on this day
- 7:07or it can't come out because,
- 7:10and we have conversation, we ask questions.
- 7:14And when there's barriers presented, that's where
- 7:17as the executive leadership team,
- 7:18we can help remove those barriers.
- 7:20So for example, you know, maybe we have a catheter that,
- 7:25from the nursing's point of view,
- 7:27it can come out the patient's ready, um,
- 7:29but maybe the provider is not there yet.
- 7:32They say, no, I wanna keep it another day or two.
- 7:35That's where myself or my partner, my chief medical officer,
- 7:38we can step in and just have a conversation
- 7:39with the provider of, you know, what's in the,
- 7:42what's in the best interest of the patient.
- 7:44Um, so long story short,
- 7:48we are now over a year later,
- 7:50and we have been successful in reducing all cau, clabsi
- 7:54and c diff rates to less than one.
- 7:58And when we talk about an n you know, the number,
- 8:01so in the past year
- 8:02and a half, we've had one CAU in one c diff.
- 8:06And what's unique about this is it actually has, uh, been
- 8:12spread out to our other five
- 8:14or four sister hospitals throughout Guthrie,
- 8:18and they have all been able
- 8:19to maintain their hospital acquired infection rates
- 8:22to less than one as well.
- 8:25And not only has this, you know, driven improved outcomes
- 8:29for our patient, 'cause that's what it's about.
- 8:31We want our patients to know
- 8:32that they're safe when they come to get care here.
- 8:34We've also really shifted our culture of safety.
- 8:38We've empowered our caregivers to say, um,
- 8:41you know, I need help.
- 8:43I need to escalate this
- 8:45and, um, have ownership over these lines.
- 8:47These are really, you know,
- 8:49nursing driven quality indicators, nurses drive
- 8:54decreasing these hospital acquired infections
- 8:56and getting these lines out.
- 8:57Um, so I think, you know, that really has been my,
- 9:01my most successful project over the past year.
- 9:04And we continue to, to maintain that success.
- 9:07And we've also seen, you know,
- 9:09a shift in our engagement scores and our,
- 9:10and our satisfaction scores along with, you know, improved,
- 9:14um, culture of safety.
- 9:17- Wonderful. Thank you so much
- 9:18for giving us all that insight.
- 9:21Um, the clinical workforce has changed a lot in the last few
- 9:24years, as I'm sure you are well aware.
- 9:26What challenges are you still facing
- 9:28and how do you see the clinical workforce evolving?
- 9:30- Yeah, I think this is a, there,
- 9:33there's a lot to this question.
- 9:35So, um, the clinical workforce changes daily, monthly.
- 9:40I think one thing we can't deny is there are not enough
- 9:45caregivers to care for the number of patients.
- 9:48And, you know, specifically speaking in my, in my area,
- 9:52you know, the biggest focus is on,
- 9:55on having enough registered nurses.
- 9:57Um, so I think that we as uh, nursing leadership
- 10:02and hospital leadership in general, we have
- 10:04to start thinking differently about how we're gonna care
- 10:07for patients and how we're gonna continue to give quality
- 10:10of care, um, than we, you know, differently than we used to.
- 10:15One of the things that we're doing here
- 10:18and throughout the Guthrie system is changing to a,
- 10:20a team nursing model.
- 10:22So this was a model that was, you know,
- 10:24dumb back in the eighties,
- 10:25but we're kind of bringing it
- 10:27back, but doing it differently.
- 10:28And what it really involves, it involves bringing RNs
- 10:31and LPNs and care partners together
- 10:34and bringing LPNs back into inpatient care when, you know,
- 10:38a few years ago when we did primary nursing,
- 10:40they were pushed back out to the clinics.
- 10:42So we're bringing them back into inpatient care
- 10:46and we put 'em in a team format.
- 10:48So you've got an rn, an LPN,
- 10:49and a care partner taking care of a group of patients.
- 10:52What this allows us to do is really increase the number
- 10:55of hands available to care for patients,
- 10:58and it allows each individual to work at the top
- 11:01of their license, um,
- 11:03and allows the RN to delegate appropriately.
- 11:08And it allows increased amount
- 11:11of time at the bedside with the patient.
- 11:14And I think, you know, we've done this on our nursing units
- 11:17and we've been successful
- 11:19and we've been able to improve outcomes,
- 11:22but I can see how it applies to other areas as well.
- 11:25So I think as leaders, we're gonna have to continue
- 11:28to be proactive about areas where there are going
- 11:31to be shortages such as, uh, respiratory therapy, um,
- 11:36physical therapy, ot,
- 11:39and then how can we be creative with those care models
- 11:41so we can continue again
- 11:43to provide high quality care to patients.
- 11:45You know, we look at respiratory therapists,
- 11:47so maybe we need to add some more techs
- 11:49or to the respiratory therapy team, you know,
- 11:52and have RT techs that can break down equipment
- 11:55or put equipment together, clean equipment, um, so
- 11:59that our respiratory therapists can work more at the top
- 12:03of their license, um,
- 12:05and handle the patient care that they need to handle.
- 12:08And it's always gonna be different upon in each region,
- 12:11you know, what, what your shortage is.
- 12:13But I think that it's really about being ahead
- 12:16of what's happening in the workforce
- 12:18and being proactive about how are we going to
- 12:23be ready to face this so that our patients don't feel
- 12:27any difference in, in, in their care,
- 12:29that they're getting the quality
- 12:31of care that we've always given.
- 12:33So I just, I wanted to mention as well, um,
- 12:36virtual virtual care, virtual care is still up and coming
- 12:40and, and it's expanding.
- 12:42Um, but I think this is gonna continue
- 12:44to be very important in the inpatient world
- 12:48and using our technology to provide virtual support.
- 12:52So we're talking about virtual sitters, um, telemetry techs,
- 12:56virtual ICU nurses, virtual med surg nurses, people
- 13:01that can provide extra support, uh, to the inpatient staff
- 13:06that are hands-on and support in the way
- 13:08that they can do documentation.
- 13:10You know, when, when here at Guthrie we look at
- 13:12how many hours a day a nurse spends just documenting,
- 13:16it's really quite, it, it opens your eyes, right?
- 13:20And we need people to be able to,
- 13:21at the bedside providing physical care to patients.
- 13:25And that's one thing we've already started
- 13:26doing here at Guthrie.
- 13:27So we actually have virtual ICU nurses
- 13:30and virtual med surg nurses, um,
- 13:33and they can pop right in through cameras
- 13:35and patients' rooms and they can document turns
- 13:38and they can document admissions
- 13:40and discharges, they can talk with families.
- 13:43Um, and this is also huge
- 13:45because it provides a support, especially
- 13:48to our newly licensed nurses just coming out of school.
- 13:53You know, that's where our biggest pipeline
- 13:55of new nurses is coming anymore is,
- 13:56is our new grads every year.
- 13:58And having these experienced nurses virtually
- 14:01where they can just ask them questions
- 14:03or they can pop in, you know, through cameras in the rooms
- 14:06and help help these nurses, um, I think that's gonna be huge
- 14:09for recruitment and retention.
- 14:12And I, you know, I'm really proud to say
- 14:14that Guthrie is ahead of the game in this area.
- 14:17- Yeah, it certainly sounds like it.
- 14:19So thank you so much for sharing all that insight.
- 14:22And before I let you go, the last thing I wanted
- 14:24to ask you is, what is your best advice
- 14:26for aspiring physician nurse leaders?
- 14:30- So, my best advice,
- 14:31and I think what has gotten me, um,
- 14:33the farthest in my career is to be authentic.
- 14:38Be you know, your values and stay true to them.
- 14:42And when you are an authentic leader, it is, it makes it
- 14:47that much easier to make real connections with people.
- 14:50And I have found that ha relation, my relationships
- 14:54with others has really, uh, helped me in inspiring
- 14:59change and, um, moving initiatives forward.
- 15:04And I think another really important component is practicing
- 15:07self-awareness, knowing yourself
- 15:11and recognizing when you're wrong
- 15:14and being, being okay with admitting that.
- 15:17One of my mentors, I think, um, one of her greatest pieces
- 15:21of advice to me was, you know, the, the two best attributes
- 15:26that a leader can have is humility and vulnerability.
- 15:30Um, because when the people you work with can, can see
- 15:34that you are human too, and you make mistakes
- 15:38and you can admit it, you know that that goes a long way
- 15:41with people and really valuing yourself,
- 15:44taking breaks when you need it, right?
- 15:46The pandemic taught us anything.
- 15:48It taught us that, uh, healthcare workers in general, we,
- 15:52we burn out easily and we need to be aware of that.
- 15:55And then lastly, you know, network
- 15:58and take advantage of opportunities when they come along.
- 16:01Um, I think that, you know, during my career,
- 16:05things have come along and they felt right at the right time
- 16:09and I was able to take advantage of that.
- 16:11And, um, you know, we should,
- 16:13we should always have our eyes open
- 16:14and be ready for the next thing.
- 16:18- Yes, I completely agree.
- 16:19Thank you so much for those final thoughts.
- 16:21This has been an amazing and informative discussion.
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- 16:25for coming on Becker's Healthcare.
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