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Furness Show 9-2: Stewart Mandel, Cougar Roundtable, Clippers punishment · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: It's strange on so many levels. I think this completes
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  Speaker 1: the circuit for the NFL. They'll put the stuff out
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  Speaker 1: later this week, but I think that completes the circuit.
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  Speaker 1: They will have now played every day of the week.
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  Speaker 1: Every day. Had they not played Wednesday before? Well, when
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  Speaker 1: they played the Tuesday night game in L.A. a few
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  Speaker 1: years ago, I believe that was the first Tuesday game.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I don't think they played on a Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. This will complete it for Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: because Seahawks will now play on every night of the week.
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  Speaker 1: including Tuesday, which the Tuesday night football game was the
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  Speaker 1: weirdest thing I've ever been a part of. We went
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  Speaker 1: down there. That was the 2021 season. And when people
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  Speaker 1: were still getting sick sometimes, and if they got sick
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  Speaker 1: or they tested, and I'm trying to think if we
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  Speaker 1: were still getting tested.
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  Speaker 2: Russ's last year, right?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was, yeah. And we went down, and remember,
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  Speaker 1: the game was supposed to be played on... God, was
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  Speaker 1: this supposed to be like a Thursday game or something?
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  Speaker 1: I want to say it wasn't even a Sunday. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: it was Sunday and they just pushed it to Tuesday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because it ended up being on our air. We ended
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  Speaker 1: up sending a whole crew down there. We did all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff for Fox 13. Last second changes. But I
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  Speaker 1: remember how we were kind of upset up here because
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  Speaker 1: the reason it got changed is because the Rams had
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  Speaker 1: some illnesses. Well, everyone had a practice squad. But they
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  Speaker 1: catered to Kroenke and the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: Of course they do.
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  Speaker 1: And ended up playing on a Tuesday. The Rams, I think,
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  Speaker 1: ended up winning that game. Um, but I remember that,
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  Speaker 1: that was, that was odd. Like it was Tuesday. Like,
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  Speaker 1: this is so weird. Like just so strange. Now we
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  Speaker 1: got a Wednesday opener, but can't wait. I mean, bring
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots on.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, we're going to get back to them in a second.
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  Speaker 1: Mariners play today about one o'clock. So we'll get a
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  Speaker 1: conversation with them in a second. We got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of college football coming up today. I'm excited. It's our
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  Speaker 1: first day of Stuart Mandel. And in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: weekly visits with Stu Mandel, the, uh, the guru of
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  Speaker 1: all things college football at The Athletic, also the Audible
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  Speaker 1: podcast as well. This dude does a great job. This
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  Speaker 1: will be the third year, I believe, he's on with
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  Speaker 1: us on a weekly basis. Is that your favorite college
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  Speaker 1: football podcast? I've got two that are one and one. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The Audible I love, and it's very different from the
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  Speaker 1: other one I listen to. The other one I listen
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  Speaker 1: to is the Cover 3 podcast on CBS, which is
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  Speaker 1: part of the Gary Parish world. Right, right. They do
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  Speaker 1: a great job too. Chip Patterson, Tom Fernelli, Danny Connell.
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  Speaker 2: Different kind of.
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  Speaker 1: aspects of talk. Yeah, they're very different, but they're both
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  Speaker 1: really good. And if you're a college football fan, both
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  Speaker 1: those are good. The Audible's really good, and Stuart's the
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  Speaker 1: editor-in-chief of the Athletics College Football Coverage and does a
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  Speaker 1: great job there. So yeah, I'm ready for some college football.
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  Speaker 2: You're a junkie, man.
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  Speaker 1: I am a massive junkie. You're such a college football junkie.
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  Speaker 1: I am a massive college football junkie. We'll talk to
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  Speaker 1: the Cougs today. Alex and MK will join us coming
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  Speaker 1: up at 2 p.m.
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  Speaker 4: Today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get into something at 1.30. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: little bent out of shape with my school for two
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  Speaker 1: different things. And don't think for a second I'm turning
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  Speaker 1: into Softie or anybody else, because I hate when people
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  Speaker 1: tell any of us as Coug fans how to feel.
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  Speaker 1: Drives me absolutely insane. Don't tell me how to feel
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  Speaker 1: about my team. Don't tell me how to feel about
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  Speaker 1: the situation we're in. Don't tell me how to feel
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  Speaker 1: about going to games, not going to games, being excited
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  Speaker 1: for a season. Don't tell me about how to fan
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  Speaker 1: as a Cougar fan. But I'm going to say with
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  Speaker 1: our particular athletic department right now, they are not doing
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  Speaker 1: themselves any favors on a couple different levels. The band
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  Speaker 1: thing is one thing. There's something else I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: get into, but it's all kind of part of the
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  Speaker 1: bigger picture. We are not doing ourselves favors as Coug fans,
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  Speaker 1: as an athletic department. You're making it hard, Washington State.
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  Speaker 1: You're making it hard to be a fan. And you're
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  Speaker 1: making it really hard to cover the team. And let
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  Speaker 1: me just give you a quick little pointer. It's one
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  Speaker 1: thing if you're TCU and you're giving a middle finger
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  Speaker 1: to the only outlet covering you. You're still in the
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  Speaker 1: Big 12. You're TCU. You're in a big market. It's
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  Speaker 1: one thing if you're not. We'll get to that at
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  Speaker 1: 1.30 today because I'm a little sideways with these guys.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, that's all coming up today. Hard Knocks ended
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  Speaker 1: last night. Seven days out now from the Seahawks opening
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  Speaker 1: up the title defense of their second Super Bowl championship.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what never gets old. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if fans notice this. I noticed it because we
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  Speaker 1: spend a lot of time in the indoor practice facility.
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  Speaker 1: There's interviews that are conducted in there after practice. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: we go in there. There's walkthroughs that we can watch
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  Speaker 1: for 10 minutes or what have you. personally, Levine and
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  Speaker 1: I and Rang, probably over the years of doing draft
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  Speaker 1: day coverage, not just on KJR, but on Fox 13,
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  Speaker 1: that was like our home for television, for tons of
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  Speaker 1: stuff we used to do. Spent a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: in the IPF. And what never gets old to me
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  Speaker 1: as someone who grew up in Seattle, and I hope
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  Speaker 1: fans notice this watching Hard Knocks, is when they show
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  Speaker 1: basically the east side, which is kind of the side facing.
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  Speaker 1: If you're looking out, it'd be facing 405. It's the
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  Speaker 1: part you can see. from I-405 of the indoor practice facility,
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  Speaker 1: and they've got the two banners hanging.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: With every player's name on it, coach's name's on it,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just awesome. And the banner they hang in
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  Speaker 1: the stadium is one thing, but it's just plain. It's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Super Bowl champions get the Lombardi. The one
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  Speaker 1: in the IPF with all the names, I never go
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  Speaker 1: in there and don't look at it and don't look
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  Speaker 1: at the names from the first one all these years later,
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  Speaker 1: and now the second one's up there as well.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty damn cool.
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  Speaker 3: So cool.
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  Speaker 1: Like, just to think about the success that they've had
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  Speaker 1: under John Schneider. It's remarkable. We spent yesterday talking a lot, Anders,
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  Speaker 1: about what annoys you about the Mariners and just like
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  Speaker 1: why is it that people have just turned on this team?
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  Speaker 1: And they have. Even after last night, they've turned on them.
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  Speaker 1: Montez gives them a great little boost, but then you
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  Speaker 1: just decide you're... Greg said it best. The iPad says
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  Speaker 1: don't play him today. Really? Okay. So.
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  Speaker 1: As much as they've done that to our world, what
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  Speaker 1: has happened to the other side is, yeah, they win.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. But the way the Seahawks bring this area,
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  Speaker 1: this community, this region together is really remarkable.
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  Speaker 3: From all backgrounds.
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  Speaker 1: All backgrounds. Even if you're just a casual fan.
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  Speaker 2: 100%.
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  Speaker 1: You're just into it. Even if you don't know who's playing,
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  Speaker 1: what position they play. I mean, listen, my wife... I
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  Speaker 1: think to this day, we're watching Hard Knocks explaining stuff
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  Speaker 1: to her. God bless her. But she's into it, right?
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  Speaker 1: And that team just brings people together. And I think
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  Speaker 1: if you love the Seahawks five weeks ago and then
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  Speaker 1: you watch five weeks of Hard Knocks, how much more
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  Speaker 1: do you love them? A lot. Mike McDonald is just
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  Speaker 1: an absolute nerdy rock star. That's a great one.
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  Speaker 2: Nerdy rock star.
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  Speaker 1: He is a nerdy rock star, man. He is the
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  Speaker 1: biggest nerd in the NFL, and he's a rock star.
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  Speaker 1: How he handles himself, how he handles that team. The
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  Speaker 1: fact that that dude, just, again, kind of a nerd.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of awkward at times. 100%. And he even admits that.
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  Speaker 1: And yet, in the palm of his hands, he's got
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  Speaker 1: 70 alpha male NFL players. In the palm of his hands.
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  Speaker 1: that love him and they'll go through a wall for him.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's one of the most amazing things about coaching.
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  Speaker 1: In any sport, at any level, how do you find
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  Speaker 1: the magic sauce? Like, how do you find that? We're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk a little bit about Bill Doba at two.
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  Speaker 1: We have Alex and MK on. Doba's the former Wazoo coach.
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  Speaker 1: He was Pac-12 coach of the year in 02 and
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  Speaker 1: took over for Mike Price and had a decent little
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  Speaker 1: run and then was let go, basically. But And Dobbs
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  Speaker 1: had a hell of a run as a defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: with the Cougs.
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  Speaker 3: Hell of a run.
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  Speaker 1: One of the best defensive coordinators, I'd argue, in the country,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Doba was this grandfather-like figure,
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  Speaker 1: this father-like figure. And if you just met him, you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't think football coach. And yet, I know those guys,
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  Speaker 1: especially MKL, tell stories about what he meant to them.
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't have thought that when you first meet him,
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  Speaker 1: but then you talk, players gravitated towards him. Mike McDonald's
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  Speaker 1: that way. It's, it's really, and then his staff is
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  Speaker 1: so diverse in terms of the personalities. You've got Leslie Frazier,
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  Speaker 1: who was a future a few times, who's the former
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  Speaker 1: head coach in Minnesota. You guys have, that's a name
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  Speaker 1: NFL fans know. It just kind of is a, mentor
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  Speaker 1: to McDonald. But you see how he handles things. Really
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  Speaker 1: nice guy. Then you've got Thomas Hammock, the running backs coach,
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  Speaker 1: former Northern Illinois coach. He speaks like a hockey coach.
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  Speaker 1: Every other word's the F word. And demands from them. Frism,
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  Speaker 1: the run receivers coach, is kind of like that too.
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  Speaker 2: I love him. He's been my favorite position coach.
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  Speaker 1: It's just this great collection of dudes. I thought at
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  Speaker 1: the end that Hard Knocks absolutely flat out hit it
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  Speaker 1: out of the park. Just nailed it. Now we are really, really,
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  Speaker 1: really biased because it's our team, but as someone who's
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  Speaker 1: been around it for a long time and has been
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  Speaker 1: there since day one of the John Schneider regime and
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  Speaker 1: was with them on the road and at home, I
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  Speaker 1: can tell you the culture and how it things go
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  Speaker 1: with Schneider. It's, they captured it and that sometimes is
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  Speaker 1: hard to do when you're editing things and you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to protect you know different types of you know secrets
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  Speaker 1: behind closed doors they nailed it and i'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: the highlight for me was the dino shot.
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  Speaker 2: Yes john scheider having a beer with his buddies talking about.
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  Speaker 1: The roster i i you know we used to do
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  Speaker 1: shows weekly at dino's and Softie and I did during
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  Speaker 1: football season. They, and I, I don't know if they're still, well,
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  Speaker 1: he's traveling this year cause he's the, he's the sideline guy,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, they've done Dave and the, and the
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  Speaker 1: Hawks have done shows there for Husky road games at Dino's.
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  Speaker 1: Dino's a great spot, great food, great service, cool people
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  Speaker 1: right off of 405, right across the street from the facility.
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  Speaker 1: We've been going there for years. So has Schneider, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you. And, you know, John's just– I
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  Speaker 1: think what that showed, he's just a regular dude. I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting out of the office. I'm going to have a
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  Speaker 1: beer real quick. I'm going to talk to you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go over there. He's with Ivan, the strength coach,
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  Speaker 1: and he's with– what's his face? Mo Kelly. And he's
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  Speaker 1: hanging out with those guys doing that. And I was
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  Speaker 1: watching it, and now– There's part of me, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: Dino's would love it. Like, don't flock there and hope
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  Speaker 1: to see Schneider. And if you do, just leave him alone.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because he's such a regular there that I have, we
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  Speaker 1: had a meeting there for the Mayor of Maple Valley
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  Speaker 1: Open early June, mid-June. And we were in there and
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  Speaker 1: he's in there with a couple of dudes, a couple
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  Speaker 1: of scouts or personnel guys. People just leave him alone. Good.
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  Speaker 1: And I love that. And I think for a guy
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  Speaker 1: that he's got a spot, he can do that. He's
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  Speaker 1: a Green Bay guy. He wants to have a pop.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you this, he loves Manny's. He is
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  Speaker 1: a Manny's guy, like, to this day.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Most of us have evolved into the Bodhisattva.
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  Speaker 2: World at Georgetown.
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  Speaker 4: No, stick with.
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  Speaker 1: He's a Manny's guy. You're a Manny's guy.
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  Speaker 2: I am a Manny's guy.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got to love the guy.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of the final hard knocks?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, everything you said and more, I wrote down
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  Speaker 2: a couple takeaways in the coaching and what you were
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  Speaker 2: saying about, you know, how Mike McDonald's the nerdy rock
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  Speaker 2: star and, you know, it's amazing watching what he can
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  Speaker 2: do to captivate a room.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, in different ways too. It's like, he, he's not this, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the Dan Campbell rah, rah, I'm going to get everyone
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  Speaker 2: pumped up sort of screaming situation. It's like, Hey, I'm,
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  Speaker 2: I'm almost a teacher.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And even more so specifically with Nicky Minwari, we saw
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  Speaker 2: it again. He's a father figure to him.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's something that really kind of struck home with
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  Speaker 2: me because this is now the second time. It seems
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  Speaker 2: like it's hard to tell what context these meetings are in,
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  Speaker 2: in his office.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But it's been the second time where Eamon Rory's kind
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  Speaker 2: of come in and with a little bit of a, um, uneasy,
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  Speaker 2: like part about his rehab, right? He, he was upset
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  Speaker 2: that he had the injury. He doesn't know what he
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  Speaker 2: wants to do. He doesn't know.
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  Speaker 3: The first episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And now this, this one with everyone expecting him to
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  Speaker 2: come back, when are you going to come back? He
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  Speaker 2: has all these questions and, um, kind of not really
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  Speaker 2: about sure about himself.
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  Speaker 1: He's a young man that's got a lot going on
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  Speaker 1: in his mind.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And he's, but he's got a, I love, I love
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  Speaker 1: the message though. McDonald said, Hey, when you're ready.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And your, your body's going to tell you, you can't,
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  Speaker 2: you can't tell it when you can't push the button
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  Speaker 2: a certain amount of times.
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  Speaker 1: And it's all of a sudden ready. It's just, it's,
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  Speaker 1: I did come out of that thinking he ain't playing
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  Speaker 1: week one. I agree. But that was a week ago.
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  Speaker 1: They filmed that. So maybe even more than a week ago, but,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, Yeah, I kind of got the, but I like,
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  Speaker 1: I love the attitude of like, we're not pressuring you.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to play when you play.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're frustrated. I get it. Sure, that happens. Whatever. Like,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff is there. Yeah, I thought that was,
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  Speaker 1: I love the cuts in terms of how they went
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  Speaker 1: about it. The one kid, the Jones kid, the running
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  Speaker 1: back from Auburn, who didn't come back on the practice.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone else was back on the practice. Like, if you're
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  Speaker 1: just wondering.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else that they were cutting, they brought back except
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  Speaker 1: for Jones. Right. And, But everybody else was back. Uso
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  Speaker 1: making it was cool.
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  Speaker 2: That was cool.
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: That was cool.
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  Speaker 1: Practice squad. Practice squad's a lot better than it used
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  Speaker 1: to be. I mean, you're making a minimum of $ 13, 000
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  Speaker 1: a week. You can live on that. Decent.
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  Speaker 2: Decent chunk of change.
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  Speaker 1: Even in Seattle, you can live on that.
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  Speaker 2: But also, on the practice squad thought process, now, admittedly,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is that different from other
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  Speaker 2: teams across the NFL. I don't follow them that closely
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  Speaker 2: to know if that's kind of the... But the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they emphasize this is a 70-man roster versus a
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  Speaker 2: 53-man roster is... It feels different. Again, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if it is that different.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I'll tell you, it's different than when Pete
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  Speaker 1: was here. Yeah. It was... I mean, they always refer...
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  Speaker 1: It was practice squad, and you're.
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  Speaker 2: And, like, along with that, Him talking about, Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 2: talking about at the beginning of the episode, how well
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  Speaker 2: we don't coach people differently if they're starters or if
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  Speaker 2: they're on the fringe of the rosters. We coach everybody up.
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  Speaker 2: There's no hierarchy or anything like that. It just feels
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  Speaker 2: like everyone's on the same page and on the same level.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think you got that from the Cooper Cup.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Cooper Cup talking to the guys that were on the bubble.
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  Speaker 1: And I think when Cooper was doing that, I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to think if it was Surratt was in there and
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I think Hubbard. I forget who else, but I think
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  Speaker 1: we listened to Cooper kind of explain how different. I
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  Speaker 1: think that when you ask a question, I think the
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  Speaker 1: answer is it is very different. Because as Cooper Cupp
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  Speaker 1: said it, it's very different than any place else in
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: the league. I love when they're talking to Big Uso,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: and he's like, we're going to coach you up. He's
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: got a ways to go. He's not close to being
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: an NFL player right now. But there's something there that
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: they see. It's a beautiful thing, too, about the practice squad.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: In a league that doesn't have a minor league, and
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: stop it. Don't you dare text in that college football
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: is a minor league.
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: It's not. It isn't.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: No.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Because you're not developing for a specific team. Correct. Yes.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: And your time runs out, whether it's four and four,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: five and five, whatever, it runs out. You can't stash
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: a guy there until he's 28 and bring him up,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Brock Rodden style, whatever it is, right?
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Seriously.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: You need the practice squad to truly– you can treat
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: it a number of different ways. The way Seattle treats
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: it is development. They're keeping Ricky White. Yeah. Ricky White's
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: going to be on the practice squad for a second year.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Ricky White III, the receiver out of UNLV. They see
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: something there. Mike said it and McDonald said it to him.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: You're not there yet. We pay guys $ 40 million a year.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I need you to do other things. Yeah. Learn how
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: to do those things.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Right? So I think it is different now the more
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I think about it. But yeah, it just came across
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: so well.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: And as someone, I had a very... opposite experience of
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: my own, not to the level of the NFL, obviously,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: but when I was at Seattle U, I was on
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: the fringe of a roster there. We were a top
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: 25 program. I was hell-bent on playing D1. Looking back,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't have been that way. But as I was
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: on that roster, I was barely traveling, sometimes not traveling,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: depending on who they took and stuff like that. And
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: it just kind of felt like, all right, you got
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: to work your own to get here. There wasn't an effort.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: There was no development.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: There wasn't an effort from the top, from the players,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: from everywhere. to kind of get everyone up to speed
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: to be a part of this program. It's like either
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: you are do enough on your own to be a
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: part of this or you don't and see ya.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Well, and you were at the forefront of how college
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: has changed totally in all sports because it used to
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: be in college football, you would develop guys. You would
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: redshirt them for a year. Then you would play them
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit on special teams your sophomore year. And
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: then you shoot to be a starter your junior and
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: senior year or your redshirt junior, whatever it might be, right?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: But you can't develop guys in college anymore in any sport.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I bet it's worse in soccer now than it was
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: when you were there. Probably is. Because they're like, okay, well,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Anderson Hurst, he's all right. He's guy number 19 on
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: our roster. We've got a freshman class coming in, and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: we can go out and get five transfers. They're not
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: developing guys, but the NFL can do that. I thought
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: that was a great match. And you can give us
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: your thoughts, 49451. I just thought Hard Knocks was great.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: And I never thought we'd see our team on it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Because the old rules were if you were in the
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: playoffs or you had a new coach or whatever, they
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: were in the playoffs almost every damn year. So now
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: that's changed too. So it was cool to see, really
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: cool to see along the way. 49451. All right, we'll
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: talk a little Mariners baseball. I hate to do this.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say it, though. We're going to talk
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: lineups next.
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: and the 12th man. Brought to you by Seattle's closest
• 17:58
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• 18:04
  Speaker 1: 49451, that is the Tacoma Dodge text line. Anderson Hurst
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: with me today. Ian Furness with you until 3 p.m.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Nakamata College Football on the 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock hours.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Stuart Mandel, Alex Brink, and Crystal Bruce.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Is it true?
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I saw this earlier. Is it true?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: DeMond Williams says he's being held hostage at Washington.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Blink twice if I'm being held hostage. I think somebody
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: dug up Softie's old tweets. That's what I was told
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: by a Coug fan was telling me this. I'm not
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: going to participate in your hijinks on the on the
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: X thread. Double Coug fans, you want to have fun
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: with him and DeMond and everything else. You guys go
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: ahead and do it. I got bigger fish to fly.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I got a bigger problem with our
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: school right now. So I'll get to that later. Okay.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So I, I don't think it's humanly possible to have
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: had a better debut in major league baseball than our
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: guy Laz did last night. Yeah, no, not at all. Right.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Like I, is it correct me if I'm wrong? That's,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It's about as good as it gets, I think.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: It's the last time a Mariners player has made a
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: debut and had two hits, let alone a home run,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: just two hits since Ichiro's debut in 2001.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, and youngest guy to hit a home run in
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: his major league debut as well.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of questions that we need to ask.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Let me start with this one.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Kind of like Kate Anderson. Why do we wait? Now, again,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: it's one game.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: And you can always say like, oh, us waiting until
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: now made sure he was ready. And if we had
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: brought him up earlier, he may have not had that debut.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I would argue that the three weeks really wouldn't make
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: that much of a difference.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: And I would agree.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: And when you're in a race for the playoffs, you
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: need to exhaust all resources and things, right? Yeah. Okay,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: that's the only negative. The positive is this. The kid
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: obviously has a lot of juice. He has juice. Like,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: he got the most lethargic, emotionally dead team in Major
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: League Baseball, and he had the dugout humming. But he's
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: not playing today. Neither is Cal, by the way.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Who's your hottest hitter?
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Cal's an interesting... That's an interesting case study. He's got
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of one-for-fives, one-for-fours, one-for-fives with a home run
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: mixed in there.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Double yesterday.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: But he's... Here's the thing. Cal's got at least some
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: confidence and momentum back.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: That's scorching compared to what he was doing before. He's
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: raised his batting average 14 points.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: His OPS is almost 100 by now.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: So... You didn't come back and play at 10 a.m.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: It's a 4 p.m. game there.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I don't get it.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I know the left-hander. Sandoval's pitching, right?
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: He's not some dominant Garrett Crochet, Tarek Skubal type.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Well, neither was Max Scherzer. Well, the ghost and frauding
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: carcass of what was formerly Max Scherzer was. Yeah, I know.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll go out and maybe Bryce Miller won't be
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: awful today and maybe they'll win a game and they'll
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: win a series and you're going to feel a lot
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: better about this team.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe Weston Wilson has the hit that you need.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Well, you know who's rooting for that. I know you are.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I am the king of the Weston Wilson fan club, baby. Oh, man.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: But you know why?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: The Wilson thing is this. Weston Wilson, that is.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Not Dan Wilson.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: No.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I think Weston Wilson is just the poster child for
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the 2026 Mariners. If you were going to write the story,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: if Michael Sean Dugar was going to write the book
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: like he just did with the Seahawks, you might have
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Weston Wilson on the cover because that might describe what
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: your season has been. If you're not going to have
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: him on the cover, put Ref Snyder on there. That's
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: just roster construction problems. But they get the win yesterday.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: They get a bonus because the White Sox beat the Astros.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: So you're now only five games out of first place,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: only five and a half games out of the wild card.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Still got a long ways to go the rest of
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the season. I'm just still amazed. I'm going to keep
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: saying this over and over again, Anders. They still need
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: 17 wins in the final month to get to 82
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and have a winning record. 16 gives you a 500 record.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Now the question is, we don't know, but can you
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: get in the playoffs with a 500 record? Not in
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the wild card, you're not. I don't think you're going
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to have every team. And if, you know, for no
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: other reason, a lot of those teams, especially in the Central,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: are going to play each other.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: You'll have, somebody's going to rack up some wins. You're
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: probably going to need, what would be the projection right now?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Probably like 83, 84 to get the wild card.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Wild card, yes.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Right. So this is really all about the division right now. And,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you know, yesterday was big. To come out after what
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: happened the night before and to have a nice little offensive,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you know, they tied it one after one. You're like,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: oh God. And then they just got off.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Last I checked, let me check. Randy Rosarena again, correct?
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Good player.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good player.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, it's just a foregone conclusion
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: that he's not coming back next year.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Well, because you're not going to pay for him.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I can see why people draw that conclusion.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Are they going to invest? And how old is Randy?
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: 31.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: It's kind of in their defense.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in their defense, it's a little bit... What I said,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and we talked about this, you and I talked about
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: this on the show a lot in July, I would
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: have traded him. I would have traded him because.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: That's the ultimate white flag on the season, though.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Other teams have traded guys and are still in the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: playoff hunt. Let me point to you my friends in Toronto,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: for example. But they're not trading their best offensive player.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But is their best offensive player going to walk? That's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the thing. And at 31, what's he going to want?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Like a Five-year deal? At least.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I'd say five years, 100.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: You're already sunk into, God, now I'm defending the team.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Let me defend these guys. But seriously, you sunk yourself
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: into the Josh Naylor contract, and that has not aged well. No,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: it has not. And I'm going to guess, I could
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: be wrong, but if it's not aging well in year one,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing years two, three, four, and five, it may not.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Age well either. Probably not.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, the J.P. Crawford's contract, you're getting out of
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: that from this year, but that hasn't aged well the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: last two years. Maybe three. And so I can see
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: them in that regard. But Randy's carrying this team offensively.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Good for him.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Let's get back to Laz.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Fun. Like, worth the price of admission to go watch
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: this monster play this weekend.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: And he just, it looks like he has fun.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Well, okay.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Is there some Julio, early Julio?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: There is. Yes, there is. 100% there is.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: God, don't suck it out of him, please. I mean,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Julio's happy when he's spinning discs and DJing and stuff.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: But no, you know what I'm saying?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And I love that about Julio.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I do too.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: When he's playing well, that stuff is great, right? That's
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a big if.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I feel like there's been far too many times
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: this season we haven't seen the old Julio. We've seen
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: him with a perplexed look on his face, the lack
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: of concentration, all those things. Lack of confidence. Lack of confidence.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: His defense has gone into the toilet.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Laz has... It's kind of cool because... the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: sports that you have, development guys, it's really cool to
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: see guys that come up and, wait for it, develop. Now,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: he's one game in. One game in. But that one
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: game was really special, Anders.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, and it was something that we hadn't
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: seen before. First of all, if we're just talking straight
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: up what happened on those two plays, the walk in
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: his first at-bat, everyone was so afraid he was going
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: to strike out a bunch, and he shows incredible plate discipline.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Really good, really good.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Took a couple really good pitches, and yeah, he's going
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: to swing and miss a bunch, but when he connects...
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: It looked like, on his home run, that looked like
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: it was going to be a meager pop-out to center field.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: The way he almost slapped at it. And it went
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: dead center.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: In that ballpark. In that ballpark. That doesn't happen in
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that ballpark.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: No, it does not.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: He didn't even get all of it. You can get
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: balls to the wall in that ballpark, but usually you
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: need the center fielder to misplay.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: That's usually what happens. To get it over the wall
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: is really something else. You can do that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, he's special. And Chris has always been on this, so...
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: props to him for, you know, uh, being, being the
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: best prospect guy that I know. It's just, I don't
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: know when I see that, you know, it's a left-handed
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: pitcher and you want him to kind of have a
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: soft landing, so to speak, and, you know, have success
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: early so we can gain some confidence, all that stuff.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I understand that, but we're not at the point where
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: we can start thinking about that right now. You have
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: to play your best players, period, end of story. It's,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: September 2nd. And the season ends in less than a month.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And you're benching two of your best guys when you
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: need to win a series.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: What do you have, 23 games left?
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Is there a margin of error?
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: No.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't think so. 49451 in the Tacoma Dutch text line.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: We will come back. Wrap up hour number one before
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: we flip over to a little college football. Stu Mandel
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: joins us for his weekly visit at 1 o'clock. We'll
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: talk about the college weekend coming up. This is week one,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: not week zero. Week zero was last week. By the way,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: this is the last week zero.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Did you know that?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: They're getting rid of the whole week zero designation next year.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Was it an official name?
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, buddy. And that'll probably change between now
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and next September anyway, too. We'll have Mandel at 1 o'clock,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Cougs at 2, all on 93.3 KJRFM.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: and the 12th man. Brought to you by Seattle's closest
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: Snoqualmie Casino and Hotel on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: All right, we're.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Back here on a Wednesday afternoon. Seven days away. The
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: countdown is on for the start of the NFL season.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Seahawks-Patriots rematch of the Super Bowl, the last game played
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: last year, the first game played this year. Meanwhile, the 49ers,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: looks like they're getting healthier. They're leaving today. Crazy. The
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Rams are kind of in this weird secret, I don't
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: know if you've heard the mode that McVay's in, kind
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: of his little, you know, I don't know if I'm
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: going to go down yet. But they're going down. Everyone's
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: got their own sports science staff. Everyone has their own
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: group that dictates and decides where they're, you know, how to,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: how you do things.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Their own way of doing things.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: And you saw that like Sam Ramston was, was prominently
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: featured a number of times in Hard Knocks. He oversees
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: all the performance side of, for the Seahawks. That includes
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the training staff, the medical training staff with David and
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: McKenzie and that group. And then Ivan and the strength
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: staff over there. It's amazing what they do. Everyone's got
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: a GPS in there, whether it's in the sports bra
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: they wear or in their pads these days. It tracks everything.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: They come off the field. They take the little QR
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: thing or whatever, the little code, the little deal, and
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: they put it in the thing, and they look at it,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and they figure all this stuff. And so they have
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: all this stuff dialed in, like when to go down.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: It is interesting that you have two very different philosophies
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: for that game down under with the Niners and the Rams.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I also love the fact that it's a Rams home game,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and they bailed on having the San Francisco play at home.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: That just tells you all you need to know about L.A.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: We talked about that yesterday with Len, the whole who's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the best sports towns. All I need to know is that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can be ranked in the top
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: 10 of any ranking by anybody, any time, if you
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: are afraid to play a home NFL game because other
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: fans are going to come to your stadium. And the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: thing is, they have two NFL teams and both have
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the same problem. Now, the Chargers is the worst problem.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: It's worse, yeah.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: But the fact that the Rams won, they could have,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: like Lunn said, they could have picked a lot of opponents,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and they picked the 49ers because they didn't want 49er fans.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And you know who would have been number two on
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: the list? It would have been Seattle. Yeah.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks fans would go down there.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir. Yeah. Just a bunch of tools, these guys.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, goodness me.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of coming over to your side because I
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: used to be much more Niner hate than Ram hate,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: and I know you are much more Ram hate than
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Niner hate. I'm starting to come over to the Ram hate.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: In terms of the biggest rivalry.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like either one of them.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I don't either.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I really don't like either one of them.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Obviously, yes.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: But, and really, I'd almost, this year, every year can
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: be a little bit different.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: This year's different because Aaron Donald, Miles Garrett, McDuffie Watson.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I do like the fact that they have pressure on
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: them to the point of, you guys better go 17-0,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: 16-1 and win the damn Super Bowl. Because if you don't,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: it's been an unsuccessful season.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I would love for them to lose that first game.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: God, I would love that. I would too. Let me
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: caution one thing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: 49ers won a road game in week one last year
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: against NFC West. They did. That would have been here.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Last I checked.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And in a game that I didn't like because– we
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: had the audio playing for a while. I mean, I
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: was critical of McDonald and Kubiak in that game. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: thought that they kind of were a little passive offensively,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and that's not who they are. And I bet if
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you put the old Hugh Mill and True Serum in
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, he would agree.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, they played tough guy football. They didn't
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: play tough guy football that day.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: But the Rams or the Seahawks lost to them last year,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and the 49ers won that first road game, and then
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: we all know what happened after that. Now, in fairness
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: to the 49ers, then they had catastrophic injuries throughout the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: rest of the season. Because one of the reasons they
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: won is their pass rusher bulldozed Abe Lucas, forced a fumble,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: and last I checked, that guy missed most of the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: rest of the season. And then Kittle gets hurt. I mean,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Purdy was hurt for a while. The whole– everything was–
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the only guy that really wasn't hurt last year was McCaffrey.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Right, which is weird.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Well, but then if you want to look at– I
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: do believe that– I think Len told us this. I
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: haven't looked at it myself, so I'm going to trust–
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to– I'll fact check it maybe in
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: a break, but Len has told us this. McCaffrey– with
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: the number of touches he had last year in back-to-back seasons,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the second season doesn't always go as well. True. That's
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a little tip for you guys in fantasy football from
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the guy that finished last last year in his league.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: That would be me. Did you get the picture, by
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the way? Did I send you the picture?
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: No.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think I just sent it to maybe Jess
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and Funster.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: What picture?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: We had our Board of Governors meeting. Oh, yes, I
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: did get that one. God.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: That was great. Gong show?
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Stupid-y.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Just stupid-y.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that. Funston, by the way, tomorrow
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: will join us at 2 o'clock.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: As always.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And I think we've kind of gone through the big
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: position groups. So with Funston tomorrow, let's talk. Let's get
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: your feedback tomorrow. Let's get your phone calls.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Let's get your texts. And we'll kind of leave it
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: up to you because have you done your drafts?
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Not yet.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: We have ours on Monday.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. So we'll get your thoughts tomorrow, your questions, your thoughts,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: if you've already had a draft. great if you need
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: draft strategy keepers trades all that have you done yours
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: no we uh we have my first with the the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: gong show league is after the after it's they wait
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: for me once i can get home on monday because
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: i'm the only guy out of 11 there's 12 of
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: us in the league there's 11 of us don't work
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: me i am working you're the one that's working so
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: as soon as i can navigate through seattle traffic hopefully
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: won't be bad on a monday we get we usually
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: do around 4 30 or so on mondays on labor
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: day and then uh And then the second one is
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday. So the old man league, old man league
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: is on Tuesday. So that's, yeah, I have never done
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: mock drafts before. doing it right now wow not as
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: we speak but the last two nights games are over
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: nothing on tv i'm like be grinding through and and
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: i don't like any of the things that have come
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: out of.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: That so far so that's why you get your strategy.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: If you guys enjoyed having uh the idiots in here
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: last year doing uh doing my show get ready to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: lose again good root for you to lose again because
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: uh big sexy and the boys will be rolling back
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: in here with cliff clavin and everybody else so It
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: should be fun. All right. We come back. We're going
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: to hear from Stuart Mandel. We're going to talk a
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: little college football in the next couple of hours. Mandel
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: is going to join us. Fun weekend in college football
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: coming up. Yes, the Apple Cup is one thing. Clemson
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: LSU has got a lot going on with that game.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and so much more next.
• 34:53
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• 34:58
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• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light. Cold as the Rockies. Mariners,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: one game two of their series against the Red Sox.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: They had a five-game skid last night. Laz Montes, two hits,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: including a home run in his debut. Youngest Mariner, he
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: had a home run in his Major League debut. Anders
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: tells me he's the first guy to debut with two
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: hits in his Major League debut with the Mariners since.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Ichiro.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Heard he was good.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: He's not starting today, though.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Itro isn't?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: No, and Itro isn't, Cal isn't, and Montez isn't. Oh, weird.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Not really. Not when you think about it. Both George
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Kittle and Nick Bosa are expected to make the trip
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: to Australia and have a shot to play Week 1
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: versus the Rams. They're leaving today. Vikings expect J.J. McCarthy
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: to be on the Week 1 roster. Penn State has
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: announced it's opening the Paternal Family Football Experience Room in
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the All-Sports Museum inside Beaver Stadium on Thursday. It will
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: celebrate Penn State's football history. Apparently good and bad.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure. You think they're going to put anything bad
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: in there?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Sandusky involved? I don't think so. Ellie Tolvanen is now
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: a New York Ranger. Former Seattle Kraken, four years here.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Nice little tenure. Probably never lived up to anything, including
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: his first-round selection, but gave the Kraken some good hockey.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: They chose not to sign him. He goes to the Rangers.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Good for him.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Rangers like themselves some former Kraken.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: They do, man. They do. And, frankly, so do the
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Kraken like some former Rangers.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Lindgren, Koppel. Let's just go through the list. Anyway, should
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: we talk some college football? Is it time to get
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: into some college football, ladies and gentlemen? Here he is
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: for the first time this season. It is our good buddy,
• 36:30
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• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Infernoff's with you, and we are on the verge, the
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: cusp of, I would say, college football starting, but we
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: had week zero games last week, and frankly, I mean,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed some of those games. Hell, I enjoyed Friday
• 37:06
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• 37:10
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• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that's how sick I am in these days. How are you,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: my friend?
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: I'm good.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: I was glad to watch some games this past weekend,
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: but really looking forward to this full slate this weekend.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. We've had a long offseason, and there's
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: been a lot of stuff that had nothing to do
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: with the games on the field, although I guess they
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: do have ramifications. But it's all about college football, and
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  Speaker 1: or Everett, absoluteautobody.com. So Stuart Mandel joins us right now.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: He is the editor-in-chief of the Athletics College Football Coverage,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: National College Football Writer for two decades. and also the
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: co-host of the Audible podcast with Bruce Feldman. Happy to
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: have him back again this season. Stuart, I want to
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: do just one quick off-field thing, and we'll just kind
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: of move on. Rosters have to be set by when,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: and where does LSU stand with its roster? Because it
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: feels like that's the only program that's still waiting to
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: figure out if they want to bring these guys in
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: that were somewhat NFL players, at least in camps.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so LSU's got a few guys who are practicing
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: with them right now. They have until Friday to actually
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: say whether or not they're part of the roster. And
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: there's this hearing in Louisiana on Thursday in that case
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: where the judge will decide whether to do things, whether
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: to give the plaintiff's preliminary injunction. Also, if the SEC,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: if he rules against the NCAAs, it's still also possible.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: ruling against the SEC. Is he saying the SEC can't
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: enforce that rule that it just put into place on
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: guys coming back from the NFL? Whatever he does, it's
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: just this game of chicken right now. Is LSU really
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: going to play these guys? You don't have to play them.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Just put them on the roster knowing that if uh,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: that sec, uh, rule ultimately gets upheld down the road,
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Lane Kiffin facing a half season suspension.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: He likes to skirt the, I mean, he likes to
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: skirt the rules. I think you wrote about your mailbag,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: some of the stuff he's done over the years. you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: with different things. The Cody Kessler thing with the punter,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize they did that before. Didn't Lincoln Riley
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: do that a couple years ago, too? In fact, I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: know he did it with Sam Huard, who was the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: kid from up here, the former five-star that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Really never played.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they did that last year. You're right.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like, that must just be a, I
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's a Lane Kiffin thing or a
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: USC thing, but yeah, the whole thing stinks. When Sark
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: turns against you, his buddy Sark, basically, doesn't that tell
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: you all you need to know, Lane? Like, maybe just
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: back off?
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: And it's just it's universal in the SEC. We saw
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Tennessee's chancellor come out publicly yesterday, very strident that they're
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: going to enforce that rule. We've heard it from ADs.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: It's very similar, frankly, to the vibe in the Big
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: 12 last summer when Texas Tech looked like it was
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: going to plow ahead with Brendan Sorsby, where it became
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: very clear it was 15 against one. That's exactly what's
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: happening in the SEC right now.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Stuart Mandel joining us. Did you learn anything from the so-called,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, the week zero? Did
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you learn anything? USC, an easy handling of San Jose State.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Stanford comes back and holds off Hawaii when it's all
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: said and done. I don't know if it's truly over
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: for UNLV as a group of six college football playoff hope,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: but losing to Memphis was not a good situation at home.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: What were any of your takeaways from the week zero
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: games last week?
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: I thought the best-looking team, the most impressive team, was Virginia,
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: who a lot of people have been waiting to see
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: whether last year was a one-off when they won 11 games,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: and a lot of those were down-to-the-wire games. They won
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: three overtime games, so very significant that they came out
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: in a conference game in the opener and just blew
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: out NC State. Good sign for them. With UNC-TCU, congratulations
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: to UNC. It didn't significantly change my opinion of them.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: But it was a really rough start for TCU. They've
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: been putting a lot of hope on their new quarterback,
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Jaden Craig from Harvard. And he just looked like a
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: deer in headlights. He could not handle UNC's pressure. They
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: have a new offensive coordinator there as well. And we
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: talked about this on the Audible, like move to more
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: of an NFL type offense than the wide open offense
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: that Tony Dykes has run in the past. And, you know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to declare it dead after one game,
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: but it was not a great start.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: No, and TCU's got so many things going on right
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: now off the field as well. The battle with the
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: one media member that covers them on a daily basis
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: is a beat writer. The assault, or actually that's what
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: it was, an assault in the locker room. Yeah, TCU
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: has some issues. Let's look ahead. Stuart Mandel with us.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I want to jump ahead to Friday. An interesting game
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: only in the sense that it's a conference game. ACC
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: will have had two conference games played before the majority
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: of the country starts It's season because, of course, the
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Virginia game ended up being a conference game with NC State.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: So Virginia, the oldest team in the history of college football,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: maybe gets that win. And then Miami and Stanford play
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Friday as well. They play that on the farm. It's Stanford.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe there'll be more than 55 people there, which is
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: what the attendance, I think, was on last weekend for Hawaii. Miami,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: of course, we know what they did last season, but
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: they're breaking in a new quarterback. uh, as well. How
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: do you see, do you see Stanford hanging at all
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: with these guys? Or do you think Miami is just
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: going to come in and pick up where they left
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: off last year?
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Hard to see Stanford hanging with Miami. Um, cause I
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: think Miami's offense will be even better. Now they have
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Darian Mensah, the quarterback, Carson Beck had a ceiling, Darian Mensah,
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: both at Tulane and Duke was outstanding, big production, um,
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: very few interceptions, um, And I just, I don't, and
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: then you have Malachi Tony, one of the best freshmen
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: in the country last year. They brought in along with
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: Darren Mensah and it's like 11th hour heist. They got
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: his receiver from Duke Cooper, who was a thousand yard receiver.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: And Stanford just doesn't have those kinds of athletes on defense.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: You know, they, they looked good for much of the
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: game against Hawaii. And then suddenly Hawaii had three states,
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: three straight touchdown drives. You know, I, I don't, I
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: don't love my, I mean, I don't love Stanford's chances.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: The only thing, You could point to is shortly for,
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, Miami coming out on a Friday night going
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: across the country. But, of course, it's not like they
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: had a game last week. So, yeah, I don't even
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: think really they have that to hang their hat on.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: You guys, I know, brought this up on the Audible.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I think you've written about it too. I know there's
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: some that are like, well, there's just not enough out
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: there as far as week one is concerned. It's compelling.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: And I always kind of say to myself, if you're
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: a college football fan, and you look at any weekend
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: starting with week one, and even hell, week zero, we
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: just talked about a bunch of games, and you can't
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: find a handful of games that you want to watch
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: that you think are fun and compelling for whatever reason. Stuart,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I hate when people complain about that stuff. We've got
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: college football. We've got enough issues with college football. We
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: have actual games this weekend. There's a bunch more I
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: want to hit on, but I'll let you riff on
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that for a second because me personally, I can pick
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: out at least seven, eight, nine games that I want
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: to watch this weekend.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, would I rather there be more
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: marquee week one games? Absolutely. And I think it's an
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: unfortunate trend that we're actually seeing it go in the
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: opposite direction and schools canceling some of those home and homes. But, yeah,
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: I think this isn't week nine and you're like, oh, man,
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: it's kind of a quiet week. We've been waiting eight
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: months for this.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: And we're getting college football Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: And inevitably, some of the games that you don't think
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: twice about will end up being great games. There will
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: be upsets. I mean, really, that's the beauty of this sport.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: You know, you wake up on a typical weekend. You
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: wake up on Saturday morning. You turn on the games
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: at 9 a.m. And you know that by the end
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: of the night, by the time you go to bed,
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: there will be things you never imagined would happen that happen, right?
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: And I couldn't tell you what those are going to be. But,
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe it's Wisconsin. Somebody asked me, what's the
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: best chance of a top-10 team losing to an unranked opponent?
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: And it's probably Notre Dame against Wisconsin, who I think
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: is going to be much improved. I could also see
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: it going completely the other way, but there will be
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: something like that that nobody saw coming.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Let me just start with the game on Saturday. This
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: is a bigger picture question. Boise State at Oregon, it's
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a big spread. It's 24.5 spread with the Broncos going
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to Oregon. A lot of folks believe that Boise State
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: could be and is maybe one of the two or three, well,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: not a lot of folks believe. I think it's true
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: that most would be the consensus is that Boise State's
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: one of the three or four teams that has the
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: best chance to get to the college football playoff as
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a group of six representative. I don't like Maddox Madsen
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: as a quarterback necessarily. I know you like the running
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: backs at Boise State. Oregon ranked number two in the country.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: We know they got to scare a couple of years
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: ago from Boise State, but they had some kid named
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Jenty that was running the ball. So it's a little
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: bit different Boise State team, but maybe bigger picture and
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: then into that game. Is this one of those situations
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: where we can truly see you now where the The
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: threshold is, the line is being drawn in the sand
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: in terms of the power for conferences and the group
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: of six conference teams, because it used to be Boise
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: State would give every team in every power conference a scare.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: They were the Gonzaga of college football. Is this going
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: to be one of those barometer games where we really
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: kind of see it up close and personal how far
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: apart these programs may be?
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, because we happened to have two years ago
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: this exact matchup. The year Oregon ended up going 13-0,
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: and Boise State ended up going to the playoff. And
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: that was a last-second, down-to-the-wire game, Ashton Gentry playing for Boise.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: And frankly, that's how Boise tied in the playoff. It
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: kind of became the biggest notch on their resume all
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: year was they almost beat Oregon. They almost beat the
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: number one team. In fact, if you remember, they were
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: actually pretty high in the committee's ranking. So here they
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: go to... Years later, obviously, they're not the same teams.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: But Oregon is Oregon. Boise doesn't have an action gentee.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: If Oregon blows them out this time, yes, that would
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: tell me that a lot has changed in two years
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: in terms of the separation between the top of the
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: group of six teams and the power core. Now, maybe
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: that's an unfair thing to put on one team and
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: one game. And certainly, like you mentioned earlier, Memphis looked
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: really good over the weekend. There will be other G6
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: contenders besides Boise. But this is an opportunity and a
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: big spot for Boise to kind of carry the flag
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: for the rest of the G6.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Memphis goes to Boise State, too, in a couple weeks.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: That's going to be a massive game in terms of
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the the college football playoffs, and that front four for
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Memphis is scary good. I mean, that's a power forefront four. Boise,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: like I said, with Madsen, I mean, he's 18-9 in
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: terms of touchdowns, interceptions. A 2-1 rate's not what you like,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: but he's an experienced senior, so probably won't be intimidated
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: going in there. We'll see what happens with that. Stuart Mandel,
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• 49:02
  Speaker 1: other games going on. Obviously, the marquee game, the one
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: everyone's talking about on Saturday night, is going to be Clemson-LSU. Stuart,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: it's safe to say LSU's had a nice, quiet offseason.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney has nothing to say about college football these
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: days or what LSU might be doing. Feels like both
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: teams are somewhat distracted. yet at the same time. 4.30
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: on ABC, man, I can't wait to watch this thing.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, for all the talk about LSU
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: and all the discussion, You just really don't know when
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: it's a new coach and a new team, what they're
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: going to look like. And there's no question that the
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: portal class Lane Kiffin brought in was frankly like a
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: portal all-star team. It was Sam Levitt, you know, who
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: was the quarterback of a big 12 championship team at ASU.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: Jordan Seaton, the tackle from Colorado is probably going to
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: be high first round draft pick. Just, just right on
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: down the line guys who were top or close to
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: the top ranked player at their position. And so talent wise,
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: I don't have many concerns about LSU, but it's not
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: as simple as, you know, you just roll out the ball,
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: new head coach, new staff, completely new culture. They could
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: come out and enroll. They could come out and look, um,
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: a little sloppy. And then for Clemson, the interesting thing
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: there is like, uh, what did I just see? They've lost.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: They're the only power 14 that's lost to, uh, That
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: can't be right. Anyway, we've seen them mess up in
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: this spot. Georgia, they got blown out a couple years ago.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: They lost a home to LSU last year. This will
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: be the first time, I think, where there's just no expectation.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: Boston had a bad year last year. People feel like
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: they're slipping under Dabo, myself included. We're expecting them to
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: go into LSU and win, or frankly, even stay close.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: So if they can pull that off, that would be
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: big for Dabo.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Dabo, too. It doesn't help. This is
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: a weird thing for me to say, but it doesn't
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: help Dabo that the quarterback that going into last season
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: that he had in Cade Klubnick was a highly thought-of
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: draft prospect, seemed to regress throughout the season, is a
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: non-factor on draft weekend for the NFL, and just had
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: a hell of a preseason in training camp. He's a No.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: 2 quarterback in the NFL team right now. So, Dabo,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: what are you doing there, buddy? There's got to be
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of questions for him, right?
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: A lot of questions.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe they had a school record. Don't quote
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: me on this, but a school record draft picks last year.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: If it wasn't draft picks, it was first three rounds.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: That's what it was. School record, first three rounds. And
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: you're thinking, are you serious? Like all those greats, Trevor Lawrence,
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: Travis Etienne, Christian Wilkins, Hunter Renfro, like this last year's
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: team that went seven and six had more than those
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: teams did. That tells you something has really gone wrong.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: I know everybody likes to say, well, it's because they
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: didn't buy into the transfer portal. Well, that was true
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: at first, but they have transfers on that team. The
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: bigger problem is what's going on with the players that
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: they already have there.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: No doubt. Stuart Mandel joining us from The Athletic. What
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: are you hearing out of Michigan with Kyle Whittingham? He's
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: making his debut as a Michigan coach on Saturday. First
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: of all, for me to say that, it just feels
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: and sounds weird coming out of my mouth. Kyle Whittingham,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: the head coach at Michigan, They play, they have a
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: pretty easy task against Western Michigan at four 30 on Saturday,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: but what, what, what's the word? What are you guys
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: hearing around the country about what Kyle's got going on
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: at Michigan?
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: I think there's people are pretty high on the roster
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: in general. And then it just really comes down to
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: how do you feel about Bryce Underwood? Five-star quarterback who
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: was really underwhelming as a true freshman. And then in
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: the spring game kind of looked the same. Now, you
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: can't read too much into spring games, obviously. And he's
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: got a new, not just head coach, but a new
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, um, who came from Utah and did a
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: great job with Devin Dampier last year. So I think if,
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: if Bryce Underwood, he doesn't even have to look like
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: a Heisman winner, but if he shows he's much better
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: than he was last year, then they absolutely have the
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: chance to contend for a playoff. The problem is going
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: to be if you come out and a couple of
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: weeks in, you're like, Oh, this isn't going to work. Um, Actually,
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: CJ Carr's younger brother is the number two QB there
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: and looked better than Bryce Underwood in the spring game.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: It would be interesting to see how quickly or not
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: quickly the fans would throw in the towel on their
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: hugely hyped freshman quarterback last year.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Stu, let's get to Sunday. You mentioned it. We touched
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: on it. Wisconsin, Notre Dame. Wisconsin's showing some signs. This
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: is an interesting game, too, for folks wondering. It's in
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Lambeau Field in Wisconsin, but because it's Notre Dame, the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: crowd's going to be fun to see what it looks like.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: As we look at this game, Wisconsin's defense... Feels like
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it took massive steps forward. Husky fans will tell you
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: all about that because they destroyed DeMond Williams and Washington
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: last year. Notre Dame loses two running backs in the
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: first round. They've got an elite quarterback, though, and people
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: think Notre Dame might run the table this season. Is
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: there any chance for an upset here? It's a big spread,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: but is there any chance for an upset with Wisconsin?
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think we're going to see, if
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: you remember about two-thirds of the way through the season
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: last year, Luke Bickle looked good as gone. And the
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: AD at the time, Chris McIntosh, who has since left
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: for a job with the Big Ten, surprised everybody saying, nope,
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: we're bringing him back. And basically he didn't say this
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: quite this way, right? But instead of throwing all this
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: money to buy out Luke Bickle, we're going to spend
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: it on our roster. We're going to significantly invest in
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: the roster in a way they hadn't before. And so
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: we're going to see if.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: That paid off.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: I do like the quarterback, Colton Joseph, from Old Dominion.
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: Good dual threat guy. I think you're going to start
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: to see them maybe have the kind of running game
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: they used to for all those years, but it's really
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: about the defense. It's not like they're bringing everybody back
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: from that defense that shut down Washington and several other
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: teams at the end. But they have two freshman linebackers
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: who blew up last year who are expected to be
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: very high-level players. So, yeah, I mean, I think Notre
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: Dame is loaded. I have them in the national championship
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: game myself. But, you know, I would say if Notre
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: Dame comes out and loses this game or just looks
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: really ugly, we're all going to say, oh, man, why
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: did we think they could lose two first-round running backs
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: and just carry on, right? Like, everybody's kind of minimizing
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: that because they have C.J. Carr and they have– fantastic defense,
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: but yeah, I'm really curious to see what the running
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: game looks like.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I am too. If they do lose and people will
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: stop complaining about Notre Dame's schedule, maybe too, when it's
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: all said and done. Is Louisville-Ole Miss, on paper, it's
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: the best game this weekend, number nine Ole Miss, number
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: 24 Louisville. Is that the best game this weekend, do
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: you think? Potentially?
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm still going to go with LSU-Clemson, but
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: I would say it's one of the more intriguing games
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: for two reasons. Louisville is kind of a dark horse
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: ACC contender. And Ole Miss has Trinidad Chambliss and Q1 Lacey, right?
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: Two of the biggest stars in the sport, especially Trinidad Chambliss.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: But you don't know what that's going to look like
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: with a new coaching staff. Charlie West Jr. went with
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: Lane Kiffin to LSU, but remember, he was still the
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: OC and the play caller in the playoff when they
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: almost made the national championship game. So, I mean, could
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: I see Louisville pulling it off? Sure. But it's hard
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: to say that when you see what the mismatch right
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: now is a quarterback between Trinidad-Chamliss and Lincoln Kienholz, who
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: the only time we've ever seen him transfer from Ohio
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: State is when he got thrown into the fire in
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: the Cotton Bowl as a true freshman and really couldn't
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: do anything. But two years later, last season, by all indications,
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: it was neck and neck between him and Julian Sagan
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: for the QB1 there. So if that's the case, yeah,
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: you could see him coming out and and having a
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: great season. It's just we haven't seen him yet.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: The Trinidad-Chamberlain back and forth, is he eligible or is
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: he not? With all the other stuff going on in
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: college football, that feels like years ago that that was
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: taking place.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: That was a completely different issue, right? That was about
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: a medical redshirt. That was long before 5 for 5.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: That was way before that. Real quick, a final thought.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Washington State, Washington, Sunday, 1 o'clock, The traditional first game
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: of the year game between the Apple Cup opponents, Washington
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: State and Washington. Huskies will rank 17th. Jed Fish is
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: third year. DeMond Williams Jr. maybe being held hostage by
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: the Huskies, but he's back. He's there, whether he wants
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: to be or not. He is there at UW. They're
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: a heavy favorite. Wazoo, I'll be honest with you, Stu,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. We have no idea what to expect.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Kirby Moore.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I love the defensive coordinator, Trent Bray. I think he's
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: a D coordinator. He's not a head coach, but It's
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: kind of the great unknown Washington State against a Washington
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: team that has high expectations. What are you thinking about
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: this game?
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: You know, I was a little surprised that Washington was
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: ranked as high as they were in the polls. I
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: guess that's a bit of a projection and optimism that
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: they take the next step with DeMond Williams coming back.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, they're upper half
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: of the Big Ten, you know, power four team. And
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: Washington State is, we don't know yet, no, but a
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: group of six teams. And it's just kind of reflective
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: of how much the world changed when the Pac-12 fell apart,
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: because obviously these were two very comparable programs that had
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: so many great games over the years. I don't know
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: what to expect from Washington State, but there's a reason.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to say this without insulting you guys. No, no, no.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: If Washington was playing Fresno State this week, we wouldn't
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: be like, well, let's see what we're going to get
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: from Fresno State. And that's kind of what Wazoo is now.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the reality of it. I mean, I'd love
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: to be saying something different. Sometimes the reality is what
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Stu, you can reach Stuart Mandel at The Athletic, theathletic.com.
• 59:16
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• 59:18
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• 59:20
  Speaker 1: entire group. We talk about this all the time. With
• 59:23
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• 59:26
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• 59:27
  Speaker 3: It's right there.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: It's just fantastic. Also, tell folks about The Audible Podcast
• 59:31
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• 59:33
  Speaker 1: as I do, sir.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and especially now that we're going to have week one,
• 59:39
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• 59:42
  Speaker 5: Pacific on our YouTube channel, which is at Audible Show.
• 59:47
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• 59:49
  Speaker 5: podcast as well. That's my favorite type of podcast to do. Live,
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: we have all these results to talk about. We will
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: definitely overreact one way or the other to some of
• 1:00:02
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• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: I love it. We'll talk to you next week, Stu.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Have a great week one of
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: college football, and we'll be listening to The Audible and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: checking out The Athletic, and we'll talk to you next week.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Ian.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: That is Stuart Mandel. We'll take a break. Come back
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• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: And he'll do that every week as he did last.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: This will be our third year with Stuart when it's
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: all said and done. Love having him on. A lot
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: of guys out there to talk college football, but to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: have the athletic senior writer host of the Audible podcast
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: is great. Huge shout-out to, let me just say this,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Troy and the group at Absolute Auto Body. Thank you
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: so much for bringing us Stuart Mandel this season. Excited
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: to have that every week, talking college football. AbsoluteAutobody.com if
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say some things here, and I know
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be going over well with a
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: lot of Washington State fans. And I know you feel like, wow,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: on this station, this should be the safe haven, especially
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: with a morning show that somehow identifies itself with the Huskies,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: an afternoon show that are two Huskies. But I got
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: to get something off my chest. I'm just right now
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: really disappointed in our athletic department on a.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Lot of levels.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: It started a couple weeks ago. Jim Walden, his service
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: was held in Coeur d'Alene, and there wasn't anybody in
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: the current athletic department that was there in an official
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: capacity to represent the school. There were people that were there,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: longtime Cougs, that were just appalled by that. Someone needs
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: to go. Someone needed to be there. Jim Walden, not
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: only a former coach, but also a longtime broadcaster. Okay,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: that was one thing.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: All right, we move on.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: By the way, I think in lieu of flowers that
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: they were asking for donations, the athletic fund or NIL fund.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: You couldn't bother driving 90 miles? This whole thing this week,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: we got an email. Greg brought this up in Crosstalk
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: on Monday. And Jeff Beck told us he supports information
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: director at Washington. And Initially, the Huskies weren't going to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: put out a depth chart until Washington State did. The
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: whole thing is until other opponents do. If Oregon doesn't,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: they're not. That kind of nonsense back and forth. First
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: of all, I think that's stupid, but what's dumber is
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: what I'm going to tell you. our school, which had
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: a narrative going out there, never really official, but they
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: never kind of countered it, that, hey, we can't bring
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: our band there because Washington won't let us in and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: won't give us tickets, has now proven to be false.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: That's embarrassing. Like, that's just embarrassing. If you want to say, hey,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: it's not worth our time to go sit in the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: upper deck, that's fine. But the whole thing initially was
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: they won't allow us to be there, whatever it is.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: The stadium's been renovated. They're in the Big Ten. It's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: the gone are the days of the little cheap bleacher
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: seats in the East End Zone where you used to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: put them there, whatever, right? It's in the track out there,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: the moat and everything. It's a different world. If you
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: don't want to go because you don't like the seats,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: which from all accounts, from what I'm told by everybody,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Softie and others that know, that's where all the bands sit.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: So that comes up. That turns into a thing. Which...
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: And then let's get back to the Bechtold thing. Like
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: we're prepping and prepping to do this stuff today with
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Alex and MK. And in transparency, we taped that in
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: the morning. Those guys have real jobs. Washington State not
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: only doesn't have a depth chart out, they don't even
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: have their release for the game out with all the information,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: the history of the game, blah, blah, blah. The last
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: thing they posted for football that was actual football on
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: their official website was August 26th practice report. September 2nd.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: On Apple Cup week. On Apple Cup week. There's nothing
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: on their official website that says Apple Cup. Nothing. I
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: come at it, I guess, a little differently, too, because
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I come at it from a broadcaster standpoint. It's a
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: national television game. And maybe you're providing some information behind
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: the scenes to the national TV guys, but you're making
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Elise's job hard. You're making your own guy, Chris King's
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: job hard. You're making everyone's job hard. We just look small.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: We look Bush League on so many levels. I'm always
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: going to be a kook. I'm always going to support
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: the team. I'm always going to root for these guys.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Sunday I'll be living and dying on every play. It's fine.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: But God, please, grow the hell up. Get it together.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Act like a big-time program. I bet I'm not even
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: going to try it. I don't even want to do it.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: But I bet if I went to Central Washington's website,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: PLU's website, they'd probably have their stuff up. It's just
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the little things. And then they have this new policy.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: They just started putting beer in the stands. Now they
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: flipped the sidelines this year. So the home team, the Cougs,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: are on the press box side, which would be the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: camera shoot to the visitor's side.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: That's a very NFL thing. Like if you think about
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: when you're watching a Seahawks game, you're seeing the visitor
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: sideline at Greenfield.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: On the broadcast, yes.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: So they flipped them this year. I don't have a
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: problem with that. And I know they had to get
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: permission for that. There were some things that went into it.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: But they did that. There's people, they've just got beer
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: and wine in the stadium. They just got it in
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: there last year for a handful, you know, for, and,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: For a while, it was only in the club section. Now, apparently,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: you can get it in other places too. But now
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: they're saying we're not going to sell it on that side,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: on the visitor side, because wait for it. This is
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: actually from the liquor control board. There's some back and
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: forth between the school and liquor control board and whatever.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: They were concerned because I guess a bunch of people
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: were throwing fireball mini bottles, mini bottles of fireball, empty fireball,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: onto the field when they scored and stuff, something like that.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: And their words can be even worse because the visitors
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: are over there. And that's where the students sit is
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: over there as well. Here's a pro tip. They don't
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: sell many bottles of Fireball at the concessions. They sell
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: beers for like 15 bucks. You're asking people not to go.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: You're making it hard for people to go. You're making
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: it hard for people to cover the team. You didn't
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: show up in an official capacity to one of your legends' funerals.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I know they're going to try to do something for
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Walden and build a helmet sticker or something great. You
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: just got absolutely blew up in your face everything that
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: had to do with the band. I expected better from Harlow.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I expect better from President Cantwell. Just not good. Not good.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Not good at all. Being a college fan, if you're
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: a fan of Wazoo, is hard enough right now. You
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: don't need the school and the athletic department to make
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: it harder.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: But they are.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: They've found a way.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well said. And it just seems like from a
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: very third-party perspective, I'm not a Husky, I'm not a Coug.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: I see both sides of the argument for argument. Just
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: the sides of the rivalry, I should say.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Sure, sure.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: But on the Coug side, a lot of it is
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: some animosity as to being not taken seriously.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: And everything that you're describing, it's very hard to take
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: something along those lines seriously. And a program who does
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: that seriously. So that's just like... you want to, you
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: want to be treated like a big time program, act
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: like one, right?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's it.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Like don't the, what was me stuff has to come
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: to an end.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Like that, that, that just has to, that just has
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: to come to an end. It's we're, The Big Ten
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: told you no. Everybody else told you no. You are
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: what you are. You made your bed with the new Pac-12.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: That's fine. Embrace it.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Act like it's still Division I college football. Right? Act
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: like it's still Division I college football.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, here we go.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: PLU. PLU, you're up to contend for the Northwest Conference title.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: I think Central's is up too, I looked.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: Did you? Yeah.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Can't wait for Tim Booth's in-state... Oh, this is my
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: favorite thing. In-state football rankings.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: PLU has more up on their website for a team
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: that hasn't won anything in forever.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Love you, Brent Adams. The coach down there is great.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: He's actually really good. God, they've got a ton of stuff.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Who is our SID here? Mark Albanese, Director of Sports Communication. Hey,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: hire him! Hire him! Hire him! Stop the woe-is-me crap!
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Act like you're still a Division I program. You're still
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: an FBS program. Stop complaining about band seats. We're not
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: going to put out a depth chart. Do you really
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: think a depth chart matters in week one? Just, God.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: We have a great communication school there, and yet we're
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: the worst school in terms of communicating. I do not
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: understand or get it, and I don't think I ever will.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Off the soapbox. Meanwhile, in the NBA. Yeah, that just
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: came down the pipe. It doesn't pay to be a
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: cheater unless you're the player who cheated. Next.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
• 1:11:01
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• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: So I mentioned this going into the break. Big news
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: coming out of the NBA a minute ago. NBA on
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Wednesday has announced that they have laid down the hammer
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: to the LA Clippers for a Kawhi Leonard signing. Kawhi
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: now in Toronto, if I'm not mistaken, correct? Correct. Here's
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: what the punishments are for what the league said is
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: a pattern of misconduct and multiple significant rules violations by
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: the Clippers organization, a prior offender of the salary cap
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: circumvention rules. So they've circumvented the rules. They've done it before.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: So here's what happens. They will forfeit not one, not two,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: not three, LeBron, not four, five first round draft picks.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Five first round draft picks. Now, the weird thing is
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: maybe they don't have any in the next couple of years.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: The draft picks they can't use are the five, 20, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm assuming they may have traded the other ones away.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: They might have been in the Paul George trade to OKC. 27,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: 28 ones, who knows. So five first-round picks, which down
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: the road is going to be brutal. Those are picks
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: that help NBA teams if done even adequately.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: They are fined $ 30 million. Ballmer doesn't care about that.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: He's fined a whole bunch of money. I think more
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: than that. He's also suspended his bomber from all league
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: and team activities for one year. You won't see bomber
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: jumping around the baseline down at his new... Clapping. At
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: his brand new palace that he built. God, that hurts.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: That hurts.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: He won't even be there to unveil it. Well, no,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: they played there last year.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, they did.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Okay. But that's his baby.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: That is his baby.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: President of Business Operations Gillian Zucker suspended without pay for
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: one year. President of basketball operations, Lawrence Franks, has been
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: without pay for six months. All penalties are binding. Can't
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: go back and change.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: It, etc.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Damn. That is crazy. Like, that is a big, big,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: big hammer being laid down on these guys.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: Like, a big one.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: It's more than any punishment. For reference, the Astros, during
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: their cheatings, trash can situation, they forfeited two first-round picks.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: And that's baseball.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: And did A.J. Hinch get suspended?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, and Alex Cora.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: And Alex Cora, right?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing with the NBA. The salary cap
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: is kind of all you have to rule the roost
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: in a sense, right? So I can see circumventing it.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: He had that, whatever that company was that he was
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: allegedly getting paid for and paid by and all that.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: the wild thing is that Kawhi Leonard's not punished and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: he's the one that financially benefited from all this.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: He got paid.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: He got paid. He gets paid. Nobody gets paid more
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: to do less than Kawhi Leonard.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Oh God.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: With his maintenance days. Exactly. Like nobody gets, nobody gets
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: paid more than him, uh, to do, to do little
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: or less or whatever. So I, I don't know, man, I,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: this whole thing is just goofy to me. Uh, It's strange.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: It's not good. It's just a bad, bad situation all
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: the way around. And the NBA laid a hammer down
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: on something that's happened a lot, to be honest with you,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: over the years. I've told the story before. It's way
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: too late now, but Larry Miller, the owner of the
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Jazz back in the day, he gifted car dealerships to
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Stockton and Malone. How is that not the same? Maybe
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: it's because it's a jazz at a small market. I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: have no idea. But yeah, very strange. Very bad. Very
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: bad all the way around. Yeah, there you go. Kawhi Leonard.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand how he gets away with it.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I thought Tiger Woods had the worst day today.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, God, yeah.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: He had his license suspended for five years, struck a
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: plea deal in his DUI case. $ 1, 500 fine. He doesn't
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: care about that. But careless driving, all this other stuff.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: He said doing the plea deal is doing what's right.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: If he drives at all, he goes back to jail immediately. Now,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. You're Tiger Woods. My question all along was,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: if I was those guys making that kind of money,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I hate driving. Drive every day, drive way too far.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I'd have a driver anyway.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: Seriously.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: Seriously.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: It's like for a lot of people that'd be crippling.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: You can go to work. You can go to the store. Yeah,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: that's true for tiger, whatever, man. I'm a higher driver.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: It's cool.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: You can get more done anyway.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Do what I got to do.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Do what I got to do.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Uh, when we come back, we're going to talk Cougs,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: Alex and, uh, MK, our first visit of the year.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: As we get into that with them, we'll talk to
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: all things Wazoo football and much more. Get ready for
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: the apple cup. Give you a little taste of the
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: crimson and gray. What does it mean to those guys?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: We'll also, uh, They both played for Coach Doba, and
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: so we'll pay tribute to Coach Doba as well. That's
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: coming up next.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 7: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KKRFM
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• 1:16:27
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• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, they are.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: We've got some news, basketball news, breaking news in the NBA.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Clippers lose five first-round picks, find $ 30 million. Steve Ballmer
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: is suspended, their owner, from all league and team activities
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: for one year. Because they circumvented the salary cap with
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard. He, by the way, was not punished. Okay.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: But he takes full responsibility, Ian.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Full responsibility.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Of lapses in judgment.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: So many lapses.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Not in himself, but in people from his inner circle.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's full responsibility.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Full responsibility on someone else.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: Unreal.
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  Speaker 1: Other news from the world of sports today. Tiger Woods
• 1:17:08
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he can. Not a golf club driver. George Kittle
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  Speaker 1: and Nick Bosa expect to make the trip to Australia.
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  Speaker 1: They have a shot to play week one versus the Rams.
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• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Legends indeed here they are alex brink and crystal bruce
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: back again another year here we go the band is
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: back together i was looking back alex i saw i
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: was searching a text for something and I saw a
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: text from, it was like, I think this is 10
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: years for us, for you and me. Like, like I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: think this is, you know, like four emails, five jobs,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: you know, minus two kids ago. It's a, it's been
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: a while. And, uh, we brought the big fellow on
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: a few years ago and, uh, haven't looked back. So
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: great to see you too. Great to hear from you
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: as well on a apple cup week. Alex, how are you?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: I'm so good. I remember, Ian, walking the streets of
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: Montreal while I was playing in the CFL, doing a
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: hit with you, or weekly hit, just cruising the streets
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: of Montreal, one of the greatest cities in North America,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: God bless it. It's been 10 years. That's crazy to
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: think about.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: The pride of the Alouettes, MK. That's who he was.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: The pride of the Alouettes. Crystal Bruce.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: Every million years, what I've ever thought I'd hear Brink say,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: cruising the streets. Cruising the streets of Montreal. Man, I'm
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 6: so fired up, Ian. You know, I'm from the West Side,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 6: so I'm like bleeding this. Like my palms are sweaty.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: It's been the whole week and it's already wet. It's
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: only Wednesday.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: What day is it? Yeah, it's Wednesday. Yeah, that's it, baby.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: That's it. Well, let me. Listen, we're going to talk
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Apple Cup. We're going to talk bigger pitch. We're going
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: to get all that stuff in a second. I want
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: to do this. I want to start, not to start
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: on a down note, but maybe more of a positive
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: to remember somebody as well. Coach Bill Doba passed away
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: a few days ago. You guys both played for him,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: had intimate relationships with him. Alex is your head coach.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: MK is your defensive coordinator and your head coach along
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: the way. I'll start real quick. I I've been in
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: this business for a long time. I've been around a
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of different athletes, coaches, and others.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I've come across a nicer, classier
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: human being than Bill Doble was. I was lucky enough
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: for a few years, back when they still liked me,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I guess, to do a bunch of stuff with the
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Cougar Athletic Fund. And a lot of those years were
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: during the Doble years, both as a coordinator and as
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: a head coach. And he was just gracious. I thought
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: to myself, man, if my son ever played for this guy,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: he'd be better off for it. You know, I used
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: to tell the story. He'd sit there. My wife would
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: go to these things and sometimes wouldn't know anybody there,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: even though she's a Coug, depending on where we were.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: And she sat at his table a couple times. They
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: drank a lot of wine. We ended up bidding on
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, or she did. But those memories
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: are always going to be with me. And I'm glad
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Bill's last game as the head coach was the Apple Cup.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: When last I checked, quarterback number 10 there stepped up
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: near midfield and found the Prada Puyallup, Brandon Gibson. Touchdown.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: But I just rest in peace, Bill. I hope Wazoo
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: honors him and honors him rightly, as well as Jim Walton.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: I hope they do that as well, the first game, whatever,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: however it works and takes place. But you guys both
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: played for him. Alex, I'll let you start.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, to that point, I think I saw a
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: headline that just crossed where they're going to be wearing
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: helmet decals for both Coach Walden and Coach Doba all year,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: which to your point is really cool. Yeah, I mean, look,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: Bill Doba is one of the best men I've ever
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: been around, let alone football coaches. I was impacted greatly
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: by him. He's like a father figure to me. And,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: you know, there were some hard times, you know, during
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: our tenure at Washington State. And he was always... you know,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: a rock for us as players, open door policy to
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: come in and talk to them. And, you know, as
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: the quarterback at that time, you know, and the responsibility
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: that comes with it, it was awesome to have a
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: head coach that supported me, you know, through all the
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: ups and downs. So yeah, You know, I know at
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: MK it feels the same way, but I was really
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: fortunate last year. Coach Dova came back to a game
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: and I got to tell him as such, you know,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: obviously he's, he was 84 years old at the time,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: 85 now, you know, you knew there was the time
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: was coming. And so on a personal level, you know,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: I'm very grateful. I got to share that with him,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: how much he meant to me, you know, but he's incredible.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: And just, you know, quickly on his legacy. I mean,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: you think about all the things he did as the coordinator,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: the holiday bowl win, the apple cup wins, but I think,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: you know, people need to remember how close, you know,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: that time in Cougar football was to being pretty special.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, a few bounces here and there, and we
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: are a multi-bowl team, right? Six and six in 06,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: probably should have been a seven or eight win team
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: that year. In 05, we lost four games or five
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: games by four points or less. Like it was right
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: on the cusp. And I think Coach Stilba doesn't get
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: the credit sometimes of how good the league was during
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: that time and what the challenges were that we faced.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: You know, and so I think it's just important from
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: a football perspective, not only he's an incredible person, but
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: from a football perspective, he's a darn good football coach.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he was almost like a savant when
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: it came down to defense. He was such a great
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: football minded person. But, you know, Dobes was one of
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: those guys that he didn't want to be the talking head.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: He didn't want to be the guy in front of
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: the guy.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: He just he loved football.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: He loved the game.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 6: He was also one of those guys when you talk
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: to him, he looked you right in your eyes and
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: he was interested and locked in. Like you felt like
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: you were seen and heard him. And, you know, you
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 6: always had a say in something and you can sit
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: down and really talk to him. But I don't know
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: if I'd be playing there if it wasn't for Dobes,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: you know, talking about someone who just believed in his players.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: I had a flip phone when I was there and
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 6: I had his number saved because he would talk to
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 6: me quite a bit as one of the captains. And,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 6: you know, throughout the years, that number just kept saving
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: to every, all the phones and every, every year, at
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: least once a year, I would just call him like, yo, Doves,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: what are you doing? Oh, MK, you know, these SOBs,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: they still paid me when I left. So I'm just
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: sitting on the lake fishing, you know, and you would
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 6: sit and just have a, you know, some great talk
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 6: with them. He's back in Indiana. But one thing about
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 6: Doves is all of us players, you know, you leave
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 6: your parents, you're over there. you know, without parents and
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: your coaches essentially like Brink was saying, are your parents.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: So he was always wanted the best for you. And
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: to this day, I got to go sit with him
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: at the last QB classic and you'd pick up a conversation.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: Like you never left. It gives me goosebumps thinking about it.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 6: Those remembers everything. You talk about a play, you talk
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: about a situation that happened on the team or whatever.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: He remembered it like it was just yesterday. So a
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: special person, the Cougs lost someone special, but I think
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: we should celebrate him for all the things that he
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: left behind. So I'm not really like, I'm sad he's gone,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: but I'm also like, man, 85 is a great run.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: You know, and he touched so many lives that I'm
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 6: just happy that I was I was part of it.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad, too, that a he got almost 20
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: years to spend back in his home area with his
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: grandkids and his family, you know, and was able to
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: retire and. did well enough during his coaching days to
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: be able to do that. I'm also glad that, I mean, listen,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I'll raise my hand. I'm near the top of the
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: list in terms of pettiness sometimes when it comes to
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: some things that have gone on between me and the
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: school and the athletic department. Dobes wasn't that way. He
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: got kicked to the curb, and that guy yet still
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: came back to whatever it was, the Coeur d'Alene events,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: the Cougar Classic events. He was still a Coug through
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: and through, and I'll just go back, Alex. The last
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: game I mean, could it be more fitting? We're talking
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Apple Cup this week. Could it be more fitting? And
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: I remember walking out of that stadium. That's the last
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: time I went to an Apple Cup there and probably
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: will be. But I remember walking out of that stadium thinking,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: because the rumors were that he was going to be done.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: He was going to step down or, you know, a
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: mutual decision. I was like, man, why? I think Dobbs
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: is like, there's something there. Like, we're close, right? But, yeah,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: I don't want to look back at hindsight 2020, but
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: I just think the fact, and I love the fact, Alex,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Yeah, if they're going to wear
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: Walden and Doba stickers, both those guys are, have incredible
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: legacies as far as the Apple cup is concerned, you know?
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: So that's, that's the other part of it along the way. So, uh,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: good for both of them, Jim and a shout out
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: to Jim Walden, his family, uh, coach Walden was the
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: one that brought the Apple cup back to, back to
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Pullman and was, was emphatic about playing games in Pullman
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: on campus and not at Joe Albee stadium and places
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: like that. And, and, uh, and Jim was one of
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: the great characters of all time. Same thing. He left
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: on his own accord, but he came back and was
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: one of the great, I mean, Bob Robertson and, and
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Jim Walden calling a football game on the radio. We'll
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: never have that again. That was special. I'll do respect
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: to our analyst right now who's really good at his job,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: really good at his job. There was something about the
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: two Muppets sitting up there chirping away up in the
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: press box and just going at it. So rest in peace,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Bob and Jim and Coach Dobes as well. All right,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: let's get to the Apple Cup. Alex Brink, I'm Chris
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Robles here. MK, I'll let you start. You said it.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: What does it mean to you? Even though it's September,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: it's not a conference game anymore. What does it mean
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: to you?
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: I'm going to stay positive and maybe one little jab
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 6: at them. But for me as a kid, I was
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: always the guy wearing the WSU shirt, you know, on
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: Apple Cup Day in elementary school all the way up.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: So I like I bleed this stuff. I love it.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: I feel like, you know. The split families where some
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: of the kids went to UW, some of the kids
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: went to WSU and parents and things like that. It's
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: so fun. It's so beautiful. It's something that I think
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: needs to carry on and with the death of the
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: Pac-12 that basically we're trying to do and try and
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: get rid of everything. It breaks my heart because this
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: is something that means so much to so many Washingtonians, right,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: or people that have been in Washington for years. Bringing
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: up real quick, is the ban not coming over because
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: of lack of tickets or lack of a section?
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Well, no, let me correct that. They have tickets. They're
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: up high. It's turned into a big thing. It is
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: a thing. It's always a thing. There's always going to
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: be a thing. They had access. They had tickets. It's
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: in the upper deck. They didn't want to be up there.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: It's the first time since the last time they played
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: in Husky Stadium, it was still a Pac-12, and they
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: had a different ticket policy. I want to blame them
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: for a lot of things.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: Trust me.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Like sitting here over here in this station every day,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: that's not one of them.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: You don't think so?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: I think I'll say this. Maybe both sides could be
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: better with it. Like like we could have, we could
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: have handled it better. They could have made an exception
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: for this one particular game, maybe, but, but, Traditions are traditions,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: but we're still here. Traditions, I think traditions went out
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: the door four years ago, guys. I don't know what
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: traditions we have anymore in college football. Alex, you might
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: still have eligibility left. Are you going to go play
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: at LSU or anything like that? I mean, who knows?
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: Hey, Alex, if they said you can come back right now,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: would you do it?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Well, for the money. I mean, you, I mean, Oh.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: Guys, I certainly wouldn't be sitting here talking to you guys.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: If I was playing quarterback in this day and age,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: unless you, you know, God, he just kicked us to
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: the curb. That's probably also true.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: You came from Oregon. How long did it take you
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: to understand what the apple cup meant?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I knew what it was, right? I grew
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: up in the Civil War. I understood the type of
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: history and those type of rivalries, Oregon, Oregon State being
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: very similar in that sense. But to me, again, and
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: I've said this before, is that a lot of it
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: had to do with the approach that Bill and his
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: coaching staff took to it, right? We had a lot
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: of coogs on that staff. You know, they treated the
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: game as an important game and like more important and,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: or at least having more about it than a regular
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: football game. And like, again, I think that's okay because
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: I think it creates an edge for you. I think
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: it creates some excitement that you can, you know, you
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: can really ride that wave a little bit. And, you know,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: so there was, we had speakers, we had, you know,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: all sorts of information and like bulletin board material and
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: all the things like, you know, throughout the year. So again,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: like I knew what it was, I think in the
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: context of, you know, the current landscape of college football,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: you know, this is, these type of rivalries mean everything,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, when you're talking about players coming,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: but you know, college players that go to the NFL
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: and could come back to college when you talk about,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: you know, all the things going on with, with, you know,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: where the state of college football is rival rivalries that
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: have lasted over a hundred years or what is right
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: about college football.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Regional rivalries with regional fan bases and all that matter.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's what makes this so special. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy that we get to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy that we got we got to in our
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: time be a part of it. And I think it's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, again, this day and age, no matter when
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  Speaker 4: that game's played, it's an important piece of the fabric
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  Speaker 4: of college football.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much unknown right now. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: I think Kirby is the right person for the job
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  Speaker 6: because of his ties to Washington State.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's the right person, but also he's already
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  Speaker 6: talking about he brought back Leaf, he brought back Jack,
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  Speaker 6: he brought back a bunch of players. Personally, the coaches
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 6: are reaching out to the old players to keep that
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  Speaker 6: lineage there, keep that history there. No coaches before this
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  Speaker 6: have done this at all. So I think, yeah, Alex,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: you could probably say the same thing. You're in a
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 6: locker room and they're getting texts, they're getting things from
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 6: their university, like come back to the school, come back
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  Speaker 6: to the school, come to your school, share your experience.
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  Speaker 6: Washington State, after Dobes, Price and Dobes, they were all
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: about it. We used to have players walking through the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: locker room that used to play. Billy Newman, Joey Hollenbeck,
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  Speaker 6: all the players would come back. And you're like, whoa,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 6: these are the guys that built this, right? It was
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 6: cool to have. And that's what they lost. And Kirby's
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 6: doing that with his staff now, which I love.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Alex, I think Kirby Moore. I mean, it's the
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: great unknown is everything about this game as far as
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: Wazoo's concerned. I mean, we don't know Kirby Moore as
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: a head coach. We do know Trent Bray as a
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Now, maybe he wasn't a great head coach
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: at Oregon State, and that's maybe not his thing. And
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that are great coordinators that
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: aren't great head coaches. But I'll just start, Alex, with
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: just your thoughts on that coaching. I'm excited about the staff.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what Kirby's all about. But
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: at the same time, excited about the defense and Trent Bray.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a massive coup to get him.
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  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, guys, look, there's a lot of intrigue.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of unknown in this game. Obviously, I
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: know the Huskies are ranked, and they have a lot
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: of hype around who they are. But I do think
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  Speaker 4: there's some things here that are overlooked for Washington State.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: I think you're dead on when you talk about Trent
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: Bray as a defensive coordinator. I mean, prior to him
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: taking that head coaching job at Oregon State, which... I
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: think kind of soured maybe people's outside perception of him.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's one of the best defensive coordinators in
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: the country and did more with less year in and
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: year out. And you look at what he's done on
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: this defensive roster, it's a lot of new faces. I mean,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of people probably don't have any idea who
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: nine of the starters will be on this team. But
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: if you go through kind of individually what they did
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: last year or at their previous stops, you could see
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: where there's a case to be made that this is
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: a really good football team. Certainly physically, on paper, this
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: team looks different than they did last year. Now, last
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: year was a really good defensive football team, really well coached, hard-nosed.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: But you have better athletes, I think, in this group.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: And if they can kind of put it together under
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: Trent Burns... I think it could be really good. I'm
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: looking at that defensive line. Linus Zunk, the DN from Vanderbilt,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: Matthias McClain, the DN from Idaho are both great additions,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: along with Paul Hudson III, a couple other guys on
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: that list. And I really like some of the back-end
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: guys they added in. So super excited about that. Offensively,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: I'm really intrigued because Kirby Moore is going to have
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: his fingerprints on the offense, but this is Matt Miller's show,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator. but you return a ton of talent, right?
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: Entire offensive line, entire running back backfield. Tony Freeman's coming back. So, again,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: I think Washington State, I don't know. I don't know
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: what to expect Sunday, but it wouldn't surprise me, right,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: if they're in this game going into the fourth quarter
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: and making the Huskies sweat.
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  Speaker 6: A little bit. Like you were saying, doing more with
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: less is the biggest thing. I don't know if you
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: have the numbers, Ian, but I think it was like
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: $ 28 million that they collected and they pooled for UW's
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: roster versus our, what, 10 or whatever?
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  Speaker 1: The quarterback in Washington might be making more than our roster. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't want to be there, by the way.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, they can spin it all they want. He
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be there. He tried to leave and.
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  Speaker 3: They held him hostage.
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  Speaker 1: MK, you got to love the fact that the strength
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: of this defense, everything I see in here is is
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: the front four, the front seven. It's those guys. Your guys, MK.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: We haven't talked about that in a while. It's been since, what,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Stone and company left that we've been talking about a
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: strength of this team being up front, buddy. It looks
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: like that's what Bray's all about right now.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: I'm excited about it. He's a big boy up there.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: He's pushing three-something. But Leite Zung, I think the German
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: that came over, he had things, he had, he had
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: some injuries, whatever they were talking about him, like really
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: tearing it up on the off season or this, um, uh,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: training camp before, um, this season, but I'm excited to
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 6: see what he does as a leader, as a captain.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: But if we get our DNs, our edge rushers getting
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: out there and getting after it, and then, you know,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 6: hopefully Brown in the middle, trying to attack the ball
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 6: and get a hundred tackles this year, I'm going to
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: be pretty excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: MK, let me stay with you real fast. I'll go
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: to Alex, jump in afterwards, just, just one key to
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: the game. And then I'm going to ask a bigger
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: picture question. Um, MK with, with a guy like Daman Williams,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, all joking aside about wanting him to leave.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: And again, they held him hostage. He's being held hostage.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: He's Daman blink twice. If you want to leave. Hey,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: but as, as you do that, what do you, he
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: is crazy athletic and crazy fast, and he's got a
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: nice arm. He's got, he's got a lot of tools.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: What do you do with a guy like that?
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: That's the thing that that's the, my biggest scariest part
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: of this game right now is he can beat you
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 6: with his legs or his arm. And he's absolutely lightning fast. Uh,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 6: If we don't contain him, it's going to be a
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: long day, period, period, point blank. That's a guy that,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: you know, if nobody's open, he's going to go one, two, three,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: and then he's taken off, and he's faster than everybody, right?
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: So you have to corral him, gang tackle him, 11
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 6: hats to the football. I mean, Alex will tell you, like,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: those quarterbacks are the hardest quarterbacks to game plan against
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: just because of coverages. You can't do specific coverages with
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: them because you do that, you leave some spaces wide open,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: you open up the passing lanes, and then they're off
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: to the races. So that's what I'm worried about.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: Alex?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a unique challenge. We saw it last year.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: Even when you get to him and you get him
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: in the pocket, he's really slippery to get out. I
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: think in the end, where I look at it is
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: that they're having some transition. Denzel Boston is in the
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: NFL now. You don't have Jonah Coleman at running back.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: There's certainly talent that's going to backfill, but they're kind
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: of trying to figure out maybe who they are at
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: the offensive skill positions. I think you want to make
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: DeMond Williams beat you through all the football. You can't
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: let them establish a run. You can't let... You know,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: you can't let him beat you with his legs. He'll
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: get his at times. You just got to eliminate there.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: You got to limit the explosive place.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 6: Well, also just continuing the drive going, right? That's what
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 6: we have to limit and get off the field. That
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: third down play, if it's not there, if he checks
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 6: down and just goes, that's going to be the problem.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: Uh alex what do you know about caden pinnick i
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: know he played last year in the fcs had a
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: really nice season as a freshman in the big sky
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: what do you what do you know about the starting quarterback.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: Well you know i was i was actually really fortunate
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: caden pinnick um reached out to me this summer to
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: come down and and train a little bit here in
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: oregon uh in between his time uh with summer workouts
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: and fall camp so i got to know him pretty
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: well uh incredibly mature young man for a young player
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: like he it was he did it on his own
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: reached out to me flew down here on his own
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: dime like And I thought that was really impressive. You
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: can tell kind of why he won the locker room over.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: I think physically he has a lot of tools. Like
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: he's obviously not the biggest guy, but this day and age,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: that's not a prereq to playing quarterback at a high level.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: You know, you don't throw for over 3000 yards, over
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: 30 touchdowns. in a good league like the big sky
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: unless you're a good football player right no matter what
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: the level is i mean we can you know do
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: the trinidad shambles right comparison and you know if you
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: want it's like d2 football high level champion productive goes
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: to old miss same thing so it's you know again
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: if you're a good football player you're going to be
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: a good football player on pretty much anywhere. And I
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: think Caden Pinnett fits that mold. He's a good athlete.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: He's going to make plays off schedule. He can make
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: all the throws on the field. I'm really excited to
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: see him in this offense. And I think the best
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: thing he has going for him, again, is you have
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: a returning offensive line. and you have a veteran stable
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: running back. So if you can kind of lean into
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: that running game, have some balance, that's really going to
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: help take the pressure off kind of early in the year.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap it up, boys. MK, Guild Mortgage,
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  Speaker 1: All right, Alex, how's the shoe business, buddy?
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, shoe business is booming, as they say. Yeah, it's fun.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: For those that don't know, my brother and I revived
• 1:39:21
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  Speaker 4: instagram at osaga.us also support any way you can.
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  Speaker 1: I think one of the cool stories honestly i haven't
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: told you i think it's one of the really cool
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: stories what you guys you and your brother done i'm
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: rocking them yeah let's go Probably got more than one
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: knowing you, fella. Like, hey, do you like the Liberty
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: High School t-shirt? Do you like that? I love that.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: I wanted to wear number two, but apparently I can't.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: I guess that's been retired up there.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: Look at that.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: Old guy. Yeah, I see some grays in that beard.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: That's Alex. That's MK. Next week, we'll have more to
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: discuss and figure out exactly where this team is after
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: we get a chance to lay eyes on them. That's
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: the world of college football these days. Go Cougs. Apple
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Cup this Sunday. Thanks, Alex.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: Thanks, MK.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: I'll talk to you guys next week.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: Go Cougs.
• 1:40:24
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  Speaker 1: I do wait for it too?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you do like when you're doing a joke, let's
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: say a designated hitter that wait for it hits.
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  Speaker 1: back is that you just find out a lot about yourself.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. It's really, it's, it's, it's, Yeah, you find
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I say that?
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  Speaker 2: Well done.
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  Speaker 1: That was well done.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was well done.
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  Speaker 3: Wait for it.
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  Speaker 2: Text line. I got a lot back in.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, somebody actually pointed this out to us, what you
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: pointed out earlier. There is a new Dan Wilson website, toughondonight.com.
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  Speaker 1: Just do yourself a favor, type in toughondonight.com. Toughondonight.com.
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  Speaker 2: You can randomize any Mariner loss, and it will tell
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: you the exact quote from postgame, and it almost every
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: time is a version of Dan Wilson saying tough one tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Whoever did that, good on you.
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  Speaker 1: Good on you.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very Nathan Bishop undertaking. Oh, very much so.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually quite suspicious it is him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Has he responded?
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  Speaker 3: He has not responded.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: Because it has the same graphics look as the Ref Snyder,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Taylor Ward hit tracker. Yes. Which previously had been used
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  Speaker 1: for AJ Pollock, Colton Long, and others.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy LaStella, Cooper Hummel. Donovan Solano.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see. Only surprise 253 about Hard Knocks was the
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: lack of O-line. Yeah, they did not touch base with
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: the O-line. I thought Gray Zabel would have been more
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: of a factor. I thought Gray Zabel would have been
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: something they would have leaned into more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I thought A.J. Barner was something they would have leaned into.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: I also agree. I wasn't much sure with A.J.
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  Speaker 6: Either.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: Wasn't a ton of Sam Darnold either, which surprised me.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: First Two episodes? First episode for sure.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit. Not a ton.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's true. Best part about Schnatter going to
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: Dino's is the 206 is people leave him alone. I've
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: seen him many times.
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  Speaker 3: No one bothers him. It's awesome.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember not seeing him there when I've
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: been there. I don't go there like, maybe if I
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: go there once a month, but people leave him alone.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: I think that's cool.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's really cool.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: And they showed that in the video. There's people shooting
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: pool right behind him.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Well, and there's camera crew there.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, there's obviously something going on, but no,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: let's just leave him be. I love that.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: 206, Ian, I'm appreciating the retro Sonics green hoodie. I
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: also appreciate it not. Go Sonics swingman red hoodie. Thank
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: you for watching on the YouTube. Simplyseattle.com. Mollywop15 to check out.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Get your Sonics retro green jersey. And the Sonics are not,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: red is not part of their color scheme.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: No, it's not.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: So when people try to bring that up, no. That's
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: a big no for me. It's yellow and green.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: Simple as that.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: The whole red thing pissed me off.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: Okay. Let's see what else. Got the girlfriend into hard knocks.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: Enjoy it so much. You got a pair of the slip-ons.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: Uso was wearing it last night's episode.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: I wish I could get my wife into hard knocks.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: I tried the first episode.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: The storylines are good. I mean, I think you have
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: to have a little concept of football, probably.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: And she's from Argentina, so I can see that.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: They'll give Randy a qualifying offer if he signs elsewhere.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: It's a high draft pick next year. It's better than
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: having trade him at the deadline.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I would do. And there's a chance
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: he accepts it, too, if he doesn't get what he
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: wants with free agency, especially with the whole stuff going
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: on with next year.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a weird... The dynamic of next year is
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: very much in play. Yeah. Like, where are we? What happens?
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: What do we do?
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: Like, the whole.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but also, it's very much like, and good for
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: him for doing this, but it screams like, hey, have
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: the best year of your career right before you hit
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: free agency, and then, you know, let's take some money
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: and call it a day.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: Rams hate more than their head coach aside because of
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: their stupid in-stadium who's house hype guy.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, I hate that.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, how much does that bleed over
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: on the TV?
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: Quite a bit.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: More than other stadiums. I mean, obviously it doesn't dominate
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: the sound, but you can hear it for sure.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: It's the most annoying thing I've ever heard in a
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: stadium in my life. Like, in person.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: Whose house?
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: My favorite one before was Rams Rules. That was my favorite. Oh, God.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: Rams Rules, when they were in St. Louis and did
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: the whole, like, here's how you... The darkest stadium of
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: all time? The darkest... Yeah, everything. But it's like, how
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: to be a fan? So embarrassing. Now, I mean, they moved,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: so I guess that's part of the reason, right?
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The 49ers Stadium, Levi's.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they still do this, but the
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: last time I was there was 2023. And when they
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: moved into Levi's Stadium, every year we went there, 10, 12,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: 13 years, they had these warnings everywhere. We're an hour away,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: getting your seats, telling people when to be there, just
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: trying to hold your hand.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: Stuff you would never see in Lumen.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: You would never see that in Lumen. Never see them.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: We're just better fans here.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: 100% agree.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: And then Arizona doesn't have fans, so it's fine. Okay.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: Interesting point to hammer on about DeMond not wanting to
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: be at UW. So if he goes off against the Cougs,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: you've got smoked by a team where the quarterback doesn't
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: want to be there.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: That's true. That will happen.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Very true. You're right, 206. It does seem like Ian
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: can't win. Well, this is another one, 360. Chirping about
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: DeMond leaving UW isn't the big one you think it is.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: He was offered more than a million dollars a year.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Who wouldn't have wanted that? Well, I know. But that
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't change the point that he didn't want to be here.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: It's not like we're really blaming.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: Him for it.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not blaming him for it.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: It is funny because people really get upset when you
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: bring that up.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: They really do.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Really get upset. Should the Cougars agree to play all
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: Apple Cups in Seattle to keep the series going?
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: I know you want it to be done.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: If you keep doing it, you play in Martin Stadium
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: and Husky Stadium and that's it. None of this neutral
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: site nonsense. Because a neutral site would never be a
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: neutral site. It'd be Husky Stadium, Lumen, Husky Stadium, Lumen,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Husky Stadium, Lumen. We do a bad enough job. Wazoo
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: does a bad enough job supporting local business as it is.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: Now local business sometimes does its own bad job because
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: they charge a lot for hotels and stuff, but No. No.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: No. Okay.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is the perfect opportunity for Ballmer to buy
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: the Mariners. There's nothing better to do for the next year. True.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: I mentioned that. I was like, hey, you want to
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: get into baseball? Want to get into baseball, Ballmer?
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Steve, you got money.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: Hey, you probably won't get sanctioned as heavily in MLB.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: There's no salary cap in the MLB. Exactly. You can
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: do whatever you want. You can give these guys whatever
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: the hell you want. Circumvent the cap all you want
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: because there's no cap. Do your thing. Get after it. Cheat.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: Have some fun.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: I'm all in.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: I'm all in.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: Let's get Balmer here. I like a guy like that.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: I was talking about the Wazoo just being stupid.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 5: 4-2-5.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: Central Washington does have their weekly stuff up. Go Wildcats. Oh,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: we've won a national championship and regularly make the playoffs. Yeah,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: you also play in D2, which is going to die.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Let's not get too cocky. D2 football is all but dead.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: It's kind of sad, actually. I want more opportunities for
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: kids to play, not less.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: And the 5-5, I don't think it's helping high school
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: kids at all. So I want him, but that's... D2
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: football is weird. It's just gone sideways. Okay, what else
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: we got? I got a couple more I want to
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: get to. Oh, hang on a second. Keith, I'll get
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: to you last. Somebody said something about text. So yes,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: for tomorrow... Tomorrow? Since we're probably going to send another
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: talk back. When we have Funston on at 2.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: Here's the deal.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: I responded to him, but yeah, you can just let
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: him know.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: For people who want to know, your text for Funston tomorrow... Start, sit, trade,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: draft questions, whatever you've got going on. Anything after 12
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: noon is eligible to get read. If it's at 11, 59,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: 59 or earlier, that's just the way it goes.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: Simple as that. We have rules here. It's not like
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: the NBA. We have rules. By the way, the Clippers
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: are now complaining about the sanctions saying that's not what
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: the NBA told them. I like it.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: 253, why would Kawhi get punished? It was on the team.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: He benefited financially.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: He got paid.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: He'd have to be the dumbest human being on the
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: planet not to know that in addition to his max
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: salary he's getting, he's getting other monetary or he's getting
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: other compensation on the side. Like, he took that compensation.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: Did he not?
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: If he didn't, then this would be not a story.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: I think Kawhi probably wanted to get suspended because then
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't have to play because nobody dislikes playing basketball
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: in the NBA more than Kawhi Leonard. That dude never
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: wants to play. So I'm thinking that, uh, where's my
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: Keith Miller.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, here we go.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: Keith, Keith Miller. You'll get the last word today. And
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: anytime someone bangs on Lund, we're all in, we're all
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: in on that. Uh, Don't kid yourself. The 49ers left
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: early to get away from Lund and the substation.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 6: True.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: That's why they left early.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: Very true. That's exactly why they left early. Lund's back?
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: Let's get out of here.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: Let's get the hell out of Dodge now. As soon
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: as we possibly can. So that's what happened.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's out.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: Let's do this. Let's get a break in. Softie will
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: join us coming up next.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: All righty then.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: Here he is.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: All righty then.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 9: Good stuff with Alex and Christo there today, pal. Talking
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 9: Apple Cup.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: Wait for it. Wait for it. Wait for it. Did
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: you hear the impression of me?
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: From who? Just this guy. Here's the thing.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, do you have it? Talk back? You can play it.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: You got it?
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: Play it.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: Hey, it's Ian Furness.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's the deal.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 5: Wait for it.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 9: Okay, now wait for it.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: Wait for it.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 9: Here's the.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: Deal.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 9: Okay, now here's the deal.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 7: Wait for it.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 5: Wait for it.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: So good.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: Here's the deal.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, now here's the deal.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 5: Wait for it.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: Wait for it.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: Wait for it. Okay, here's the deal.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: Here's the deal. That should be the new name of
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: your show.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: Wait for it or here's the deal.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: Wait for it with Ian Furness.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: Wait for it or how about wait for it dot, dot, dot.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Oh, God.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, I told you. I think it was yesterday.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive, man.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 9: I mean, the way you can stretch and turn a
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 9: one-minute conversation into a ten-minute conversation.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: It's an hour. It's an hour. Very, very impressive.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: Do it for an hour today. Very impressive. Hey, I
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: told Anders this. The thing with the talkbacks.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: It's a really interesting look into the mirror, but for
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: all of us.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: Because everyone gets.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 9: I haven't heard a Fane one yet. Have we heard
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 9: a Fane one? Well, there's got to be one for everybody.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, we do these little bracket things
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 9: in the summer when there's nothing going on, whatever. So
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 9: we got Chuck and Ashley. We got Greg and Jessamyn.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 9: We got you two here, and then me and Dick.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 9: I guess that's eight people. We got to include Furious Feltz.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 9: Furious Feltz is already the winner. Somebody's got to get
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 9: bounced for Feltz in the eight-team bracket for the best
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 9: listener impression.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: I've never heard a Fane impression. Oh, there's got to
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: be somebody out there who's got one.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 9: I'm challenging— I've got a bunch of stuff on the
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 9: wall if you want to hear it.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm challenging our listeners. We need a Fane imitation tomorrow.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: Softy's playing with his wall.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: Hey, you know what? Keep that between us.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: What do you got here? Fire away.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: I've got a Fane.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: So just keep talking.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: Let me stretch this again for another hour. What do
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: you want me to do? Don't stoop there.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: Play that again. That one?
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 8: Don't stoop there. The Gonzaga fan base is arrogant. I'm
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 8: one of the arrogant Gonzaga fans.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: Very true.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: What planet, what galaxy, what realm of spectrum are you
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 5: coming from?
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: So this one is an interesting one. This is an
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: interesting one. Let me play these back-to-back because I've got
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: something for you.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 8: The Gonzaga fan base is arrogant. I'm one of the
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 8: arrogant Gonzaga fans.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: It takes a special skill, does it not, to be
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: not only an arrogant Gonzaga fan, but an arrogant Washington fan. Sure.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: He's got the daily double going.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: Those two crossover are so rare.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 9: He's the only one that I know, honestly, that suffers
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 9: from that affliction.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: It's The only thing more rare would be if you're—
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: Coos and dogs? No, huskies and ducks. Huskies and ducks.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: Huskies and ducks.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 9: I mean, and if you've got, like, you know, interfaith marriage,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 9: you know, between an Oregon fan and a Husky fan,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 9: and you grew up on that house as a kid— Well,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 9: you had one of those.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: I did. Yeah. But I was Jewish, and she was Mormon.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's about as interfaith as it gets.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: That's about as— Yeah.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 9: That's about as far— But the Mormons have massive respect
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 9: for the Jews, by the way.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: They do?
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: It really did work out, yeah. It did work out. Well,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 3: because they know we have money. We can donate.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 3: That's why they're always banging on our wall. Hey, you
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: guys home? We want to build a new temple.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: The thing is, you're the only guy here who can
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: say that. They're back. The guys with the.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: Bikes and the ID cards are back. Hide the cash.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: Looking for my Jewish tithing.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: Hide the cash. Anyway, yeah. So, I mean, I can
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: see that. Like, you know, Dick is married to a cougar. Yes,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: he is.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 9: Not a 50-year-old woman, but an actual Washington State graduate. So,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 9: his kids deal with the UW wazoo thing, I'm sure,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 9: all the time. You know, the problem, I was thinking
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 9: about this today on the way in. I was hearing
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 9: your show with Alex and M.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: Christo.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 9: And I was thinking about just the lack of juice
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 9: for this Apple Cup on Sunday.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: Are you surprised by that?
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: No, not at all.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 9: But you don't give a damn. I mean, I don't
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 9: care on Sunday. But you're not showing it right now,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 9: which is half the fun. Like in this office, there
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 9: used to be a lot of anxiety Apple Cup week.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, there was.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 9: I mean, people would literally come to blows in the hallway.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 9: You'd avoid people. You'd shove people up against the wall.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: Especially at the end of the Pac-12 tenure. Oh, man,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: they'd be screaming and yelling.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 9: When both teams were decent or when the Huskies were
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 9: good and the Cougars were planning on ruining the party.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: There was a lot of anxiety in the building.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 9: I mean, part of it, I'll admit, is that we
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 9: don't have as many people here as we used to.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 9: So those Cougar fans are no longer here, obviously. But
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 9: there's just no juice. Like you, I'm talking to Pride Moore,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 9: I'm talking to Schubert. You're all Cougs, and none of
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 9: you are going to the game. No, I'm not going
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 9: to go. You're like the Cougar band. You're just passing.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: We don't want to go.
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  Speaker 9: They didn't have tickets for us. We don't have good
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 9: enough free seats. We're not going to the game. So
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 9: I don't like that because I like it when there's
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 9: a little juice around this thing.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: But you know this as a sports fan. You can't
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: manufacture emotion.
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  Speaker 8: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: Not a thousand percent.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: You can't manufacture.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm on the air yesterday with Greg and Mario. Like,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: let's go. We're like, you know, whatever. Greg's like, we're
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: going to kill them. They suck. Mario's like, shut up, man.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 9: It just doesn't have it. It doesn't have it this year.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 9: It doesn't have it. It's simple. It's the first game.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 9: It has no conference ramifications. It's not the end of
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 9: the year when you just said you could ruin a season.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: The funny thing is, this isn't funny, but ironically what
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: you said, Washington ruined Wazoo's season a hell of a
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: lot more than we did yours.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but your seasons were already ruined.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: Let's be honest. No, that's funny. By the time the
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: game came along.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: Like 0-2, the backwards pass.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 4: Totally.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of times.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: Really good team.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: A lot of times. You guys were like third in.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: The country, right?
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, we were.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: Jason Gesser.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: You really didn't win.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 9: They should have won on the previous drive when Pickett
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 9: hit Kevin Ware for the touchdown. And they said he double-pumped,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 9: which he never did at all. Trust me, I was there.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 9: I saw it with my own eyes. But those were
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 9: the games that mattered. This game does not matter.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: You're right. You're right.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 9: Manufacturing emotion is a hard thing to do. Especially now
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 9: with 12 teams in the playoff. And we're talking about
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 9: how you can be a two-loss team and still play
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 9: for a championship.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: You guys can.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: We can't.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 9: The early games just don't matter as much as they
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 9: used to. So I'm with you. I'd like to see
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 9: it put back in November, but this is the price
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 9: you pay, man. It's never going to go back.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 3: The price you pay. It won't ever go back. Well,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: we'll see. To November, I should say. We'll see if
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: the Cougars, unlike the marching band, show up for the
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: game on Sunday.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: You know the other part of it, honestly?
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: It's 1 o'clock.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: Honestly, the other part, I have no idea who the
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: hell's playing for us.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: Well, you got the kid from UC Davis.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, thanks.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 3: Pinnock.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: He was here a year ago. He lost by 60.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that. The running backs are all back. Right.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: The good news for us, which also could be bad news.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 3: Nobody went with Jimmy. Are you a Kirby Moore guy?
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: I think so, but I'll let you know on 4
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: o'clock on Sunday. Well, that's kind of unfair to judge
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: him on that.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: We'll find out.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: I'll give him a year. Although I learned last year
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: if you give a coach a year, it might not matter.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: He might be gone. Exactly. What are you doing today?
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: What's today? Wednesday? Today's Wednesday. Petros is on today.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: Petros.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 9: Talk some apple cup with Petros this afternoon. He's all
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 9: worked up about the USC San Jose State thing. You
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 9: saw that, by the way, online.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: 12 people there?
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 9: Well, he's getting people to rip in USC, and he
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 9: went after Seth Davis on social media.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 3: You don't know who we are. You're not a part
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: of this.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 5: Shut up.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: So we're going to talk to Petros at four. Petros,
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: who hates his own school, but he'll defend his school.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: Defending it for now. Well, because Slick Davis kind of
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: went after the L.A. sports fan, and.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 9: That didn't sit well with Petros. So we'll talk to
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 9: Petros at four. Larry Stone will be here at five
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 9: talking about whatever happens.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: In this game in Fenway.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 9: And then we'll do a little Hard Knocks recap coming
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 9: up as well, I think, at 6 p.m.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 4: Tonight.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 9: Final Hard Knocks. I think the whole show has been
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 9: kind of boring since episode one.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've loved it.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it's terrible.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 9: I just think it's kind of, it's just, like if
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 9: they did this 13 years ago when the LOB was here.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 9: With Marshawn and Sherman.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: And Earl and Baldwin and Carroll.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: That's when you should have done it.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 7: My God.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 9: The rules were different. How many people have said, this
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 9: team's kind of boring? They're kind of boring, right? And
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 9: I think the hard knocks is kind of showing that.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 9: So anyway, that's what we have coming up.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: Hope to see you Sunday at the game, pal. You
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 3: need tickets? I got you covered. I'll text you. All right,
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 3: see you.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 9: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 9: panel day saying so long, everyone.