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Austin Visser: The Undertaking | Furnace Fest 2023 Series · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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Black Black, Black Ballast. Why today we've got our good friend Austin Viser
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with us. And Austin, I feel like at this point you're just uh
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I think I mentioned it last time, but you're really just an honorary guest
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at this point for that, I mean, actually you're really an honorary co
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host at this point on the Black Sheet podcast because you've been on so many
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times. I don't know what that says about me if I'm like an easy
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person to get a hold of and I'm desperate to get on podcasts, or
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or maybe maybe you're the Black Sheep groupie. Maybe you're the Black Sheep groupie
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that so maybe I should start declining. But hey, all I'm gonna say
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is if one of you guys can't make it to host a podcast, I
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mean, just give me a call and I'll step in at any moment.
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So I'm always I'm always down to hang. There we go, Austin.
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Obviously we want to talk about furnace fast. But before we do that,
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how are you just doing in general? Man? Like you're fixing showers,
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you're dealing with air pod issues. I mean it sounds like yeah, I
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mean, it sounds like life is really get you know, it's beating the
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shit out of you right now. I feel like I've said some of that
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stuff, you know, hoping that it wouldn't make on the podcast, and
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you guys just like aired all my dirty laundry. So manus laundry you've got,
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You're doing well, wait, better than most church pastors, right yeah.
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Yeah, I'm not a pastor anymore, so I'm good to go.
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Yeah. So now your life actually becomes more clean, doesn't it. Yeah,
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well, I prefer not to talk about that, doesn't Mason. Don't
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you have a theology podcast that we could talk about something? And I work
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for a seminary too. I mean there's a lot it's a dirty laundry we
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could talk about it. Well, So I'm doing good. We're recording this
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like at the end of June, and my family has been sick on and
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off for like the past month. So I have three kids, and it's
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just one of those times where it happens where the colds and flus just bounce
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around to each other. So if you can hear to my voice, I'm
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starting to get over something. But I had a flu last week and then
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as soon as you think you're done with that, you get a cold and
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then so my wife and I are kind of going crazy. But then at
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the same time, we're in that season of life where we have we've been
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in our house for like twelve thirteen years or so, and if we don't
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keep up on some of the maintenance stuff, you just fall behind. And
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so I fixed our screens the other day, and then I was late to
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the recording of this because, Yeah, we're replacing a shower and tub in
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our bathroom because our kids cracked the tub and we've only had one shower and
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it's one of those things where I could keep pushing off something and my wife
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and I were just like, we have to do this. So I like
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ripped out the tub this past weekend and we're replacing it today. So how
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does it crack a tub? How's that even possible? You do you really
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want to get into this? Yeah, the one one I think it's a
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faulty tub, like it wasn't designed well is it like a plastic tub or
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like a cast iron tub or fiberglass is what it was. So I have
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a nine year old and a seven year old, and what happens is one
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of my kids when they're done in the bath. Kinda hate you guys for
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making a tub. The story they'll they'll take us so far. Well,
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they'll take us so far and like line the tub with soap and they'll kind
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of just slip and slide back and forth. And I think having done that
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too many times, I think they just kind of wore out the tub.
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So there's a ton of things in my house with nine year old, seven
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year old and a two and a half year old where there's just like cracks
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in the dry wall crans. I'm looking outside at an area where there's chalk
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on the wall and some of that stuff. We're just like letting go because
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at some point they'll just do it again next week. Specifically, the two
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and a half year old, like the nine year old at this point knows
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that he's not supposed to draw on the walls, but they like they scooter
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her inside the house to our floor is always have dings and whatnot. Yeah,
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life is dude, Life is good. I can't go. It sounds
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like you've got a good concept for the next Undertaking album Just Dad home shit.
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The question is which is more chaotic an Undertaking show or your household?
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Oh my household for sure, Like that's not even a question about it.
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But both in both involve you yelling. Though no, I'm not a I
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don't yell at home. I just I'm I'm pretty you know, I'm a
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good dad. Let me just say that. You know that song that the
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worship song, the Good Father, That's yeah, that's about me. That's
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who you are. But no, no, I'm not much of a yeller.
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But yeah, my house is cam. I always tell people my life
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is chaos. Like I have a buddy Squeege on Twitter. If you listen
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to this, shout out, I'm sorry. I owe him a feature on
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a song and I just have not gotten to it because my life is just
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chaos and trying to find time to do stuff like that is possible. And
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he was like, hey, you got a chance to do this, and
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I'm like, I suck and I'm sorry. So one of these days,
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yes, I'll do it. You know how else you owe a feature two
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on one of your next songs? Yeah? Have you heard sing before?
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Do you need? Do you if you need like a good, like clean
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singing little moment in one of your songs, because you don't do that very
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often at all, really, if you need one though, clones your guy.
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All right, let's do it. Yeah, I'll pull out some of
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Chris Cornell type stuff. We'll have a blast. I'm down, um,
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but yeah, life is good. I'm behind on all my movies and TV
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shows because all I do is played the new Zelda game. But I just
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caught up on The Bear. So if you guys watched The Bear, we
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watched the first episode last night. In the second season. Yeah, okay,
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dude, second season one. I don't know if you get top season
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one because it's kind of perfect television. But season two, man, it's
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so good. There's do me a favor and keep me in the loop which
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episodes you watch, because there's a couple that I was like just like weeping
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out of sheer happiness. I don't know, it's it's so good. It's
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I love it it is. It's a great show. All right. I
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feel like people need to know the context about the undertaking and furnace Fest.
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So here's the thing. Months ago, many months ago, you and I
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had already talked about that you were going to be coming to Furnace Fest as
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an attendee. In fact, we had like housing arrangements and everything like lined
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up. We were you know, we got an Airbnb, so you're gonna
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come and hang out with us, And we were just gonna go to Furnace
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Fest hang out as attendees. And then about a month or so ago,
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one of my favorite bands that or at least one of the bands that I
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was looking forward to most scene was Loath and then they dropped out because they
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got like who was it that they were like at Chivell And there was some
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like big like kind of like Seventh Day Slumber or three days like three doors
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down or something. Yeah, some we like it's a weird it's a weird
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pairing with Loath, but also it's probably gonna be one of their biggest tours
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ever. So like I can't blame them for wanting to take that tour.
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So it meant that they weren't going to be able to come to Furnace Fast
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and so like Furnace Best did last year, they did a vote. Now,
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you guys were pretty close last year. What do you know you finished
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like top ten, top five or something like that last year. No,
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I don't know where we finished. We we tapered out towards the end of
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that competition. So we actually didn't move forward through like the final two rounds,
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but we did. I mean that that's part of the inception of this
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story, is that competition last year. Yeah, and us kind of doing
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it as a joke. So finished your thought or are you done well?
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I was just gonna say. And then obviously they did the vote this year,
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and it was one of those things where I'm like, I'm gonna obviously
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put all my support into undertaking. But I had no idea like if like
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you know, some of those other bands, like they've got a lot of
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Instagram followers and shit, like I just I had no idea like what the
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chances were. And yet you guys kept like moving into like kind of each
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round or whatever, you know, if they were rounds, and it just
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like felt like, wow, this is like this might happen, and then
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gave some steam and then it happened. But yeah, I don't know if
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you have more backstory around last year and then leading up to this year,
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but yeah, tell us about like just this whole story from your perspective.
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Well, it's it's very overwhelming to be completely candid. Uh And and and
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part of my flaws as I don't really have a filter, so I'll try
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to filter some like unnecessary parts of the story out, but I'll try to
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be honestly as candid as possible. And and it starts like two years ago
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one we're still such like a Newish band. We're about to celebrate like kind
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of four years playing shows in the end of July, and so we've still
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just kind of in two of those years was a pandemic, so we've kind
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of only been playing shows and being active for like two years, maybe a
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little bit more. And so Furnace Fest twenty one happens and you're just like
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geez twice, like that's like an insane lineup. We gotta go. But
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for us, like the East Coast was so far so it's like, Okay,
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I don't know if I could do that at that time. Two years
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ago, I had like a seven five and my wife was pregnant, so
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that wasn't really an option to go. And even if you've heard my interviews
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on this podcast before, you've heard us talk about kids and how that's really
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valuable time for me to be able to take it away. So long story
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short, we go out to Birmingham in April and do that tour and I
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met Johnny Grimes and we saw slots, we went and visited it and we're
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just like at that point, I got home and I talked to my wife
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and I was like, I kind of just have to do this. This
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is something I feel like for me and my musical background and being part of
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the scene for so many years, Like I have to make this trek out
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to like the metal core mecca, so to say, yeah, it's like
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it's like the pilgrimage. You have to at least once in your life.
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Yeah. Well and then part of that, yeah, well, meeting people
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like you in person. And we've talked about that. Just how many people
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over the last couple of years that we've met online that now we get to
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meet in person And it's just just really cool bond that we have that we
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talked, you know, every couple of days via Facebook, Instagram, Twitter
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and stuff, and then be able to be like, yo, I'm a
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real person. And like, funny story about that is when we tour with
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Chris rats Laugh and Joe Calderonne with light Worker and Falstar. The first time
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Chris thought I was a short guy and he thought Joe was a tall guy.
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So then when he met, he was like totally blown away the fact
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that I'm like sixty three and I was tall. He was like, man,
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I just told pegged as like a completely different person online. So that's
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a little bit of the back story, but one I can't really even go
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further without thanking everybody for voting for us, because that that's what I'm saying.
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It's like overwhelming because at some point we got the support to get on
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Furnace Fest, like arguably the coolest thing for a band like us, in
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our style and our background and whatnot, to be able to get on a
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festival like that. It's just unreal opportunity. There's a part of me that
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jes wishes I could attend to the festival. And so now that we have
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to play, I'm like, dang, Like now now we gotta like,
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you know, perform and be on and kind of I don't get nervous,
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but like in the back of your head, you're gonna have the butterflies and
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like a little bit of like the anxiety and like frek to play. So
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I kind of hoping we play on Friday. We don't know what day we're
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playing yet, but I kind of hope we're playing on Friday, so we
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can get it over with, just like play at Nude, Like I texted
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you guys like play at Nude twenty people and be like all right, we
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did it, we did the thing. Now we could hang out. But
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then there's part of me that also wants to play on Saturday. So then
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on Friday I could go around and like tell people like, hey tomorrow,
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like I'd love to ye, and then I don't want to play on Sunday.
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Well, we'll play whenever they tell us to play, but I don't
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want to play on Sunday because then that's just like delaying the anxiety for like
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multiple days. I just want to get it out of the way, like
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trying to like save your voice, make sure you exactly exactly. But no,
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so yeah, it starts last year where where they somebody what happened last
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year during their competition is somebody tagged us and all of a sudden, like
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I get a pain. And it's one of those things where if, if,
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if there's ever an opportunity for somebody to tag the undertaking and something,
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I just always assume like that's not going to happen, Like nobody cares enough
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whatever. I'm not even trying to be like whoe is us? You're just
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not gonna like, oh, who's the up and coming band that we need
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to check out? And then if somebody tags us in something, you're just
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like, man, that's really cool. So anyways, last year, we
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start getting these pains ping ping, ping, ping ping, and then like
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ten people had said the undertaking for the who should get this vote? And
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at that point we're like, oh, we record some videos here, this
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wouldn't it be funny if we like actually got to play Furnace Best and you
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guys voted us in, and bang we get like a post from Furnace Best
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like you guys are in the top twenty bands, and I start calling my
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band guys. I'm like, hey, man, I think this is kind
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of like the real thing. Like there's like it's not like a not good
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chance that we could get it. But then what happened. And I'm a
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sore loser and very competitive. So if you hear that tone from me,
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obviously I'm not over it yet. But we had like big bands get involved,
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and people can say we're a bigger band than some of the local guys,
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Like I get that, but we're pretty small, fue. Look at
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our Spotify numbers and Instagram followers and stuff, so I feel like, well
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that and you don't have those mall connections apparently. Yeah, well so then
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you had these bands with like one hundred and followers like pulling out ads on
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Facebook, and ye had the multipliers and I don't know, man, we
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just got boat race towards the end, and it was a fun ride and
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we'll take that like free publicity and made some cool connections through just like asking
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people to vote and then be able to follow up and just say, hey,
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thank you for voting for us. We really appreciate it. But then,
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like I said, going out to Furnace Fest, it was like,
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Okay, how can we make this happen. I had been committed to going.
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I was about to buy my plane tickets, and then bang, the
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next competition happens, and again it was they changed the structure a little bit
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so it wasn't as like a wild Wild West type of thing. So it
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was a nomination and I guess we got enough nominations to make it past that
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first stage, and then the second round of voting was just in that Furnaces
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Furnace Best Facebook group online and then bang, we make it past that because
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we you know, we're always working on networking and connections, and I feel
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like online we've made like a lot of friends that are part of that circle
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and crew, and so I guess, yeah, we made it past that
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and then tore it got kind of wild because that's where it's like literally just
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like texting every single person, like pandering to people like, Hey, this
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is really important to us. Could you please vote for us for this thing?
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Now, here's my two cents on that. We don't pander to people
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often. So like if we play a local show in San Diego, which
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we don't play in San Diego often, We're not like the band that's always
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telling people like hey, man, like come out to this show. Like
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we respect our friends time, so we don't. What I'm saying is we
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don't ask our good friends for favors often. And so for us, it
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was a couple of times where it was like hey, I think this is
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kind of real, and then it was like, oh, we moved on
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to the next round, and I started texting like the band Johnny Keith and
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Brent. I was like, hey, can you guys like just make sure
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that September twenty one through twenty four you're available and yeah, and it's like
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Okay, now it's like a real thing. So you got to text every
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freaking person in your phone and just be like, hey, I know you
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haven't heard from me in a while, but my band's up for this big
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festival. Is there any way you can for us to take Like it takes
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like thirty seconds, and dude, the support that we got from our friends
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and family and then just people online that have come to our shows and participated
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in what we bring as a band, like they showed up and did it,
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and it's probably I honestly, I mean, I can't overstress how cool
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this opportunity is for us, Like, like it's the really cool thing,
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probably the second coolest thing we've ever done, other than signing the one album
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contract to the Solid State and being able to put that album out like that
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was like a dream come true. But then for us to like win a
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competition like this and then be able to play on the same festival, it's
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like a lot of these bands, it's the probably the second coolest thing we
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did. So then Alaina from the Furnace Fest, like, let's us know,
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that we win, and I got to call my boys and say,
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dude, we got it. And it's kind of one of those things of
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like is this real? Is this possible? Like what's the gimmick? Are
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they gonna recount the votes? Like is Trump gonna get involved with this and
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say it's not real? Like starter steal? Yeah, we're pretty close at
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Georgia, so you gotta be careful there. A couple of people didn't know
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that you were joking, by the way, so I had to really,
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that's our friend, like he's joking and so but then the coolest thing for
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us is we got to text, Like I had so many people that I
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got to text back and be like, hey, we we won, and
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thank you for supporting us and thank you for voting for us. And it
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was a tedious task because I was trying to like thank as many people that
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got involved as possible. But it was really cool because there was some genuine
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support and genuine happiness for the undertaking, which is just silly because it's this
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band that we started four or five years ago to say like, hey,
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we're a bunch of dads trying to, you know, just play with some
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rock and roll and have some fun again and for us us to be able
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to have some like cool success like that, it is really really neat and
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really meaningful. And yeah, now I'm starting to do like a deep dive
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on a lot of the bands that we're going to see, and just really
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cool to be able to put put our name on that fire. I have
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a wall of some of the stuff that we've accomplished over the years, like
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when we played with Falla Troy and a couple of our tour fires, and
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so I'm really excited to be able to print that off and put that up
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next to it. Just to have our name on a fire next to it.
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Turns out ad MxPx and Norma Jeane and just some of the bands that
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we've looked up to and listened to over the course of our career. Um.
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And then yeah, just if you're listening to this and you voted for
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us, man I, I thank you immensely for doing that. And it
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means that the world that each of us and our families and kind of what
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we're able to do. And yeah, it's really neat. And I know
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that there are some people that were not happy with how it turned out,
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and I understand that, like that's bound to happen regardless. I mean,
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that happened to you guys last year, so like, yeah, it's like
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someone's got to be a loser, right. Hardcore Hotline was like, man,
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you guys are salty and some of the competitions and I was like,
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man, my cholesterol is going to be so high because I'm eating all the
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salt right now. I love It was just like consuming all the salt increase
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your cholesterol, don't you know whatever? The high blood pressure? Like yeah,
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I think, Butter, does you know what you should do because you
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should probably, you know, pick up a couple of extra shows in that
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area, just so you can make it extra worthwhile. Yeah, I know.
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We were molling that over. It's so hard for us, especially with
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kids. Our guitarist Keith just had a kid in in May, their first
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kid, and so we actually, yeah, we're so for him. He
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actually hung out with us for the first time, like we gave him space
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to be able to be with his family and stuff, and we withdrew from
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Audio Feed. There was the Pleasant Underground Festival that we were supposed to do
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in Detroit that we withdrew from just to give us a little bit more time.
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So anyways, point is, we're kind of molling over if we could
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do like another mini tour in the East, but I don't think that's gonna
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work out. But we might try to pick up like a house show or
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just do something silly like that. But yeah, we're flying in Thursday,
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going to hit up the Meadows pre show even though it's sold out. We're
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gonna like be the guitar text for a Symphony in Peril or something to get
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another show. Yeah, do it. I'm glad that voter intimidation works.
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You know. I was trying my best on those Facebook groups to uh,
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you know, threaten people about you know, voting for you guys, so
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who you know. I never knew that voting intimidation worked that well, but
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yeah it did. Now we had we had some fun. We had some
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good support with you guys. With all consuming the discord that we're involved,
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those guys supported us a ton, obviously. Josh uh Jos. I don't
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know your last name is because you change your name on every social but Welch
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or Todd or whatever. But he's our body. He's making some silly videos
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for us, and yeah, we had some fun with it. But at
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the end, man, I told the lay, I was like, dude,
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I'm I'm toast. I'm I'm like a fake extrovert to having to like
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engage with people and texting and being on our socials and reposting and like trying
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to just muster up as many votes as possible. I was like zonked the
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next day, But yeah, we're stoked. We're yeah, we're trying to
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figure out what that looks like now. I mean, oops, we were
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playing furnace Fest, so we gotta get merched. We gotta get some more
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vinyls because we're almost out of those. We gotta like figure out our set
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and all that kind of stuff. So it's fun. The question is is
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there going to be a bikini bottom vinyls available? Man, dude, shout
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out. This is not a name and shame, but you guys didn't pick
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one of those up, did you. I already already had one of you
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know, the original, so I wasn't going to get the bikini bottom one.
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But yeah I saw it and I was like, Damn, I really
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wish I would have waited for that one. Same albums of Bikini bottoms a
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massive account online that takes artwork and puts a SpongeBob spin on it, and
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I hit him up when he did an album. We met him out in
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Virginia when we played there, and so we kind of knew it was coming,
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and when it came out it was so good. I was like,
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hey, can we somehow print like an all cover for it? And we
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we thought we were gonna sell Keen twenty We ended up selling fifty five of
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them. We were like really happy, Like we've realized too, we're disappointed,
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Like the cheat sheet for Life is just we should have done more stuff
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with Sponge because apparently, like random people were buying it, so that was
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a project in and of itself. But I might print off some Like what
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I try to do is keep it a run of one of one of fifty
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five, two or fifty five, but I might do some artists prints,
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Like so if you do like screen prints and stuff, sometimes the artists will
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keep back some stock for themselves and it'll be like a one of five artists
21:19
proof. So we might do some artist proof for Furnace Best. And I'm
21:25
mulling over maybe another variant cover or something for Funeral Psalms, but at the
21:29
very least at the very least to be cool if we got like a poster
21:32
of it or something like that. Yeah, well, we let the wave
21:36
of the excitement of Furnace Best kind of wash over the last couple of weeks,
21:37
and now we're kind of getting into business mode of like what can we
21:41
do to capitalize on that? So I don't know if it's like a poster
21:42
or a variant cover that's specifically for Furnace Best or something. But the cool
21:47
thing too, and that's what I was gonna say, is like I'm trying
21:48
to manifest it out into the internet. We're like getting really close to selling
21:52
out of all of our funeral songs vinyl, which so I'll say, obviously
21:56
will never ever press those again because it's not in their interested to do so
22:00
monetarily. But we're like getting close to that run being gone. I think
22:04
there's only like fifteen or something of this flatter variant that exists, so those
22:08
those probably are going to disappear in the next couple of weeks, because well,
22:12
we might even buy them just so we have them rather than the solid
22:15
state, not in a vindictive way, so don't take it the wrong way,
22:18
but so we can sell those at shows, and then the two color
22:21
ones actually running out too, so we're running low on those, so I
22:23
wanted to be creative on what we do with the last couple from that.
22:26
For sure, Man, I love it. I love it. And one
22:30
of the things that I love about this whole, like undertaking, getting voted
22:34
in and everything, is because we're good friends with you. What's really cool
22:38
is one of my dreams in life has always been to create a set less
22:42
for a band that I love. And I don't know what it is,
22:47
but I am like obsessed with like how bands order their songs and like what
22:51
they do for interludes and how they like how they even come out on stage
22:55
and start. I'm I'm obsessed with that. I think about all that stuff
23:00
all the time. And so I felt honored when you reached out to Colin
23:04
and I to to chat about, like, Hey, what songs should we
23:07
play? Like what order should we do? And so Colin and I had
23:10
like pretty similar lists. I think you were so honored that I had to
23:15
ask you twice to answer my question. Okay, so I do have I
23:18
do have a caveat to say about that, because I my Facebook account was
23:23
hacked like three months ago. Oh remember remember I was telling you this,
23:27
Austin. Yeah, And so I can only get on if I like go
23:32
through like a special like method on my desktop. I can't do it on
23:36
my phone or anything. So I checked three days later and I'm like,
23:38
oh shit, Like here's Austin. He's like asking us about what we what
23:44
we would want for a set list, And I felt like a dick because
23:47
well, here, here's the fun thing about that one. I'm happy that
23:49
you guys responded, but we're very much approaching furnace best now is like we're
23:53
this is so stupid disabled. We're like a band of the people like you
23:56
guys voted for us to be there. So the irony of it is that
24:00
we're probably gonna play at like eleven forty five in the morning, and nobody's
24:03
gonna even have showed up to the festival yet. So we're trying to make
24:07
sure, like we want to find out when we play, so we could
24:07
be like, hey, we're playing it this time, like please come.
24:11
But the coolest thing for us is if we have eighteen minutes to play,
24:14
if we have twenty five whatever, we're going to pack as many songs in
24:15
as possible, and we're trying to kind of get people involved in that process.
24:21
So I was asking a ton of people like, hey, we're playing
24:22
eighteen minutes. We're playing the toilet set behind the porta potties. They're hiding
24:29
us off to the side. The sound guy's cutting our set short because he's
24:33
grumpy already, Like what songs do you want to hear? And just to
24:37
kind of get a pull from different people. It's really fascinating because you have
24:40
some people that lean more heavily towards funeral songs, you have some people that
24:44
are picking up on some of the superstition songs. There's been like a good
24:48
mix of the two and then the big theme so one you could go to
24:53
Hate five six. When we were out in Philadelphia, Sonny from eighty five
24:56
six showed up and he filmed one of our sets. This sounds terrible because
24:59
we were in basement packed with like forty people, um, but it's it
25:03
shows a little bit of the chaos of our set. That's like our set
25:06
that we run out on tour often. And so we come out to an
25:08
intro that's Jimmy Trumpets, which is the song that the reliever from the mets
25:14
Edwin Diez comes out too, but the problems so well, no, I
25:18
know, but guess why freaking Pierced the Veil used it on their recent tours.
25:22
So what we're trying to be like, no, we used him first,
25:25
like they have no idea that we how how did that happen? How
25:30
we've founded on YouTube like one of their recent sets and Brent sent it out
25:34
and he was like, guys, I got bad news for you, but
25:37
we loved it. We put our hands in the air and whatnot. And
25:40
so then we usually start hold up, hold up, hold up, how
25:42
on the world does Pierce the Veil do the exact same intro song? That's
25:47
that obscure SI video or what? No, it's because it's a good intro
25:52
song. I mean yeah, but like that's so obscure, like like that's
25:55
not like something that just like anybody would do. I bet they ripped it
25:57
off from you, guys. There's a zero percent chance. But maybe I
26:00
don't know, but I think that's like two bands coming out to an undertaking
26:04
song. That's how obscure that would be. I know, I know anyway,
26:07
so what kind of bizarre? And then also we're like, dang,
26:11
like they the bigger band used our ideas, so we got to come up
26:14
with an idea. But we have we have so many random ideas. Like
26:17
we have a sample that's cut up of a speech from the movie Oblivion.
26:21
I've seen Oblivion with Tom Cruise. Yeah, so that the scene when he's
26:27
talking about the football field, he's like, he's like rookie wide receiver jumps
26:32
out of the back touchdown. And it's like the theory behind that scene if
26:37
you want to google it, google Tom Cruise Oblivion Football. The joke behind
26:41
that scene is that people say that Tom Cruise has never watched a football game
26:45
in his life, and so it's like Tom Cruise acting like he's he knows
26:48
what football is. But we spiced it together with the Oblivion soundtrack. So
26:52
that's one of the samples that we use buying stuff. And anyways, we're
26:56
coming up with some sil have that on their set list next week. That
27:00
that's sketch. That's super sussed. So but we're gonna probably try to pack
27:03
like eight songs in. So I don't talk often during our set. I'm
27:07
not like a big talker. I'm not going to talk about jacking off horses
27:11
and get Sanis online like day five to six guys. Also, how cool
27:18
is it they have hate five six, Like do do a show for you
27:21
guys or do a video for you guys? H because that's STD. Man,
27:26
I don't care what anyone says. That street, we were all mildly
27:27
unconscious because it smelled in the basement and it was so freaking hot. We
27:33
were wearing like the heaviest coat possible down there. I tried to keep it
27:37
on the whole time and I couldn't do it all. No, dude,
27:40
that was like the cool We had hit him up. The venue guy.
27:44
Ian had hit him up when we booked the show and he was like,
27:45
hey, I got that data open. I think it could happen. And
27:48
then we never heard from him until the morning of the show. So we
27:51
were driving from Baltimore to Philly and Ian was like, hey, Sonny's coming,
27:55
and all the Scott like real nervous, like, oh man, we
27:59
gotta go. We gotta make sure we do a good job. The joke
28:03
that I had is I run through like three rules before I set and I'm
28:07
like, there's three rules to this venue because we're so tight here. We
28:10
no farting and then like a week later after the show is when the guy
28:14
farted during the sleep choken face thing, and it like blew up online and
28:18
I was like, dang it, I should have encouraged, like you should
28:19
have said you have to fart um. And then one of the guys I
28:26
don't know if you watched the set, but somebody busted out a cookie sheet
28:29
and he was like washing around back at people with the cooie sheet and then
28:32
he hits the guy on the head. It just breaks the cookie sheet in
28:34
half and throws it on the ground and you can see the Meadows boys were
28:40
just like not having it. They're all just like hands up, like like
28:44
just blocking. Yeah. I know, so that was overwhelming in a way,
28:51
but dude, the dude is just a professional and he just crushed it.
28:53
He was in that basement for like forty minutes or I'm sorry, like
28:56
four hours straight and then the show's over and he is out and we got
29:00
chat with him a little bit. But that guy moved so fast because he
29:02
had to go home, and like the twenty minutes later our videos uploaded onto
29:07
his like Vimeo and stuff. It was really cool and it means a lot.
29:10
So I mean We've got some really cool stuff, man. This year.
29:11
For us to be able to reach that release the EP that we got
29:15
to do, we got to tour the East Coast with Meadows and Empty and
29:19
then get the Hate five six thing, get Furnace Fest. Like, we
29:22
got some really cool stuff that I feel like we're like gaining a little bit
29:25
of traction, but we still just need people to tell more people about us.
29:29
And anyway, so we're at this conversation. Sorry because of the setlist,
29:32
but that was really fun because just getting too ping people and say like
29:34
what songs do you want to hear? So we haven't played No Friends on
29:37
the last like two or three tours. Kind of just one of those songs,
29:40
just one of those songs that's hard and it's not like it's a little
29:42
bit more of a standing plant song for the guitarists and so just trying to
29:47
get as much energy. But do you guys know Big Jeremy. He's I'll
29:52
send him a picture. He's in one of the Furnace Festival Furnace Fest photo
29:56
promo photos from a couple of years ago. But he's like six six seven,
30:00
dude. We never met this guy and we play el Core Zone in
30:03
Seattle two years ago, and all of a sudden, this big, freaking
30:07
big Jeremy shows up and like we start playing our set and he knows every
30:10
single word to our songs, like our whole set, and it was one
30:12
of these like I teared up a little bit on stage. I'm just like,
30:15
we've made we made it. One person noticed our songs. This is
30:18
like so cool. But he's gonna be there, and I'm just starting to
30:22
think, like, Okay, what songs do we have to play to get
30:25
like Jeremy, to get Christian from Meadows, to get you guys, like
30:29
get some the songs that people know that that get people engaged and get people
30:33
to sing along with us. And it's an opportunity for us to be like,
30:37
okay, let's tuck our own personal like interest and ego behind, like
30:41
oh, we don't want to play these songs anymore and just say, like
30:42
all right, give people what they want. And so we took it.
30:45
We took it seriously when we were asking everybody what what songs they wanted to
30:48
hear, and it was cool to kind of get up litmus test, but
30:52
so what's what would you say that like the top three right now that you
30:55
always that you've seen it almost every life. Oh Interesting, I definitely friends,
31:02
Oh Negative. And everything worked out just fine, kind of the big
31:06
ones that everybody said, so those are obviously in it. But if we
31:08
were to pick our set right now and play it, what we would do
31:11
would be the problem of being included in the apocalypse. It's a good song
31:15
to start out with. It's got like a two step, it's got a
31:18
breakdown, and it's kind of a good like on ramp for us to kind
31:21
of build up our energy because it ends heavy, and then we'll go straight
31:23
into No Friends, and then we'll do Oh Negative, and then we'll do
31:26
two songs off of the EP. We'll do Black Cats because that has a
31:30
cool intro that's works within our set, and then which is Deathbed Confession.
31:34
And then on tour we ended with a three set little thing with wrenches.
31:40
The nostalgia can be a nasty beast, and everything worked out just fine,
31:42
and those three songs like really flow together thematically, and we like don't take
31:47
any breaks. So we're kind of the band that just for like twenty minutes,
31:49
we're just like hammering people with songs with a couple breaks. And stuff,
31:53
So we got to find out what our set is. But hopefully we
31:56
can squeeze that into twenty twenty one twenty two minutes, and if we have
32:00
to lose a song, I really hope like a little extra time so you
32:02
can squeeze and Plague because I yeah, that song. It is my all
32:07
time favorite of you guys, and it's not gonna happen. But yeah,
32:14
here's my take on it. We have take Me down the River, we
32:15
have Plague. There's a couple of songs with choruses in them, and I'm
32:22
not under confident in my ability to perform those songs like well enough to justify
32:31
people's time. That's a weird way of saying, Like, I just like
32:34
when we come out, the brand that we want from the undertaking when people
32:37
see us play live is chaotic, energetic. We're bouncing around, jumping around,
32:43
and if I have to jump into a chorus, I'm gonna have to
32:46
stand and plant and really like work on my vocals to make sure they sound
32:52
good. Does that make sense? Yeah, And so we've kind of just
32:55
a while ago just said okay, we're just playing songs that are like all
33:00
snow breaks. The entire time, and so those songs kind of just have
33:02
fell to the wayside because even for us as a band, like we're trying
33:06
to keep our heart rates up, so we're engaged, and if we're engaged,
33:08
we can pull in an audience because they're engaged. And when we play
33:12
like River or Plague, when they have a little bit more of the ebbs
33:15
and flows, like a good song, a good well written song has it
33:20
just it kind of kills our vibe and then it's like it's like when you're
33:22
working out and you have to like stop to do something to like re engage
33:25
in that workout, Like you gotta like kind of get the momentum going again.
33:30
So there's some thought process behind it. If if we ever do like
33:34
a ten year funeral songs thing like that, I will be so stoked to
33:37
play some of those songs. But Sick, Yeah, I dig that.
33:40
Well. We're looking forward to it. And also I just think like the
33:44
chaotic nature of you guys's shows is going to be just like such a really
33:49
great like breath of fresh air. You know, you get a lot of
33:51
like the two steps stuff, a lot of like just the kind of you
33:54
know, very rhythmic type of machine type of music obviously a for incest and
33:59
that's great, but also to have like the super chaotic kind of chariot like
34:04
of you know, you just you never know what's going to happen at the
34:07
show. You might be clembing rafters and who knows what's gonna happen. Like
34:09
that kind of shit is always super infectious. And even if it's just like
34:14
fifty people, it's still going to be like one of the most memorable things
34:17
for those fifty people, Whereas you could have like five hundred people, and
34:21
if if it's just a regular asset and nothing really cool happens, like nobody's
34:25
gonna even all five hundred people won't remember that. But fifty people, where
34:29
it's just like the most memorable thing, I think that's even really that that's
34:31
way cooler to me. Then if you guys get like five hundred people and
34:35
the and it's just like yeah, totally, well man, I'm i'm,
34:39
I'm, I'm excited. I'm it's gonna be really fun and we're gonna have
34:44
twenty twenty five minutes whatever to go out and give it our best shot and
34:47
we will well like we're exercising, we're practicing like we're we're are you exercising
34:54
in front of the body length mirror? No? No, no, that's
34:59
oh moves and everything. Okay, No, Andy, and then Tommy,
35:04
the last two I listened to. I'm like, Andy, man, I'm
35:07
never gonna be the car screamer. I cannot do it. So so we'll
35:13
we'll practice at our practice space and that's where I go full because like,
35:17
my whole performance is very visceral, like I'm a loud yeller. Like it's
35:22
it's visceral. Yeah exactly. That was gonna make the same joke. That
35:25
was just too easy. Yeah right, Yes, At one point in time,
35:30
I was gonna have a podcast called Viscerally Speaking the scr Dash Anyway,
35:37
Um, that idea fell to the wayside. I'm sorry for forgetting your name
35:40
but becoming the archetype. Jason, Like he's a loud I've heard you guys
35:45
talk about how he when he records, he's loud, Like I'm a loud
35:47
recorder. I'm a loud performer. And so I'm just like, I can't
35:52
perform and practice at my house because I'll scare my kids and then I can't
35:55
Like you do, I'm not I refuse to practice in my car because I'm
36:00
not going to be the dingiest that somebody pulls up next to you. And
36:01
I'm just like, r, I'm not gonna do it. So we have
36:07
to schedule time to practice and that's how I kind of get my vocals ready
36:09
to go. And then what we usually do, which we have a show
36:14
planned with a band that's actually playing Furnace Fest. They're playing in San Diego,
36:17
soho, we're uping on a show with them, Will Will Haven,
36:22
I don't know, yeah, and Nouce Yeah, so sorry if I blew
36:24
that one, but we got hit up to play that. But that'll be
36:28
the show like a month before furnace Fest where I like get off the stage
36:31
and I almost vomit because I'm not in shape. And then I'm like,
36:34
well, I have to run five miles a day now for the rest of
36:37
the month to be able to to do our set. So I'm like trying
36:39
to be proactive, and you know, we're getting ready. So it's a
36:43
whole process. Man, We're a bunch of idiots and take the stuff way
36:45
too seriously. But I'm like, I got to try to find a way
36:50
to sneak a cookie sheet in so that I would love it. Yeah,
36:55
just can you hide it like like in a guitar bag and then you can
36:59
like throw it out to the crowd, like we can just have like cookie
37:00
sheets everywhere that I don't I don't think I mentioned this last time, but
37:06
thank the e and the kid who set up that show of Philly. At
37:08
some point he hit us up before this show and he's like, hey,
37:13
can I can I make this show a weapons show? And I was like,
37:17
I was like, what are you what are you talking about? Yeah?
37:21
Weapons show? He's like, can we bring cookie sheets and eight foot
37:24
light bulbs like twice and light bulbs and smash him on each other? And
37:29
I was like, yeah, that sounds that sounds kind of dangerous And he's
37:31
like all right, rain check Like he was I think expecting people and like
37:37
the mosh pits to be taking these eight foot weshing tubes and smash him on
37:42
each other. But then I'm thinking, like it's like Allen show or what.
37:45
Yeah, I don't know. I'm like thinking we're in a basement in
37:46
Philly and then we're all gonna be like breathing in the dust that's in those
37:50
for us and things like yeah, I was like, no, man,
37:52
I don't think that that's a good idea. But first fest doesn't allow that.
37:54
They don't want their weapons. And have you guys seen that. There's
37:58
like this, uh, India's got talent. It's like one of those kind
38:01
of shows. No, there's like sixty of these Indian dudes, like these
38:06
super buff Indian dudes and they're like running around the stage and they break like
38:12
thousands of these light bulbs those long time each other and it's like it's like
38:17
their stick. Like they're like, is it like the Indian version of the
38:21
Power Team? Basically it's what it's like. There's like one guy that's like
38:25
eating them. There's one guy that's like gross like like putting them up all
38:30
around his eyes and ship and he's just like ah that stuff is this craziest
38:35
piece of television I've ever seen. Was it knocked up? I think it
38:38
was knocked up? And like Paul Rudd and Seth Rogan are like smashing the
38:42
tubes out in the trash ga I can't There's one of those Appetil movies from
38:45
back in the day that they were doing that, and I always thought that
38:46
was funny, totally but anyways, yeah, point is berntce best man,
38:50
we're stoked. I help people show up. And if you're listening to this
38:52
and you're like, man, get this your Bernie off your podcast, like,
38:54
don't show up to our set. But if you're interested in some chaotic
38:58
and fun stuff, plan show up and be entertained for twenty twenty five minutes
39:00
or whatever they give us, and hopefully people engage in moh and sing along
39:05
and stage dive and hopefully we have enough people out to where it's fun.
39:07
But uh yeah, I watch some of our videos man, during wrenches that
39:15
we sometimes you know people at fest you know, they they they they sometimes
39:19
are going, well, you know, I don't do it at festivals,
39:22
and it's like, well why not have fun? Man? We've never played
39:25
to a big enough crowd to where it's warranted that. So if you watch
39:29
like our Hate five six video I jump on people. There's a there's a
39:32
video from our show, our set in Birmingham where we played at the firehouse
39:36
down the street from Slaus and I like tell people like come here, I'm
39:38
gonna jump on you. And I jump on like twenty people and they catch
39:42
me and move me around and stuff. If you watch our music video that
39:45
I put together our buddy JP nine two. Yeah, shout out to JP
39:52
no no his name called nine two. Oh, shout out to nine two.
39:57
There you go that JP doesn't exist, just called nine two. Right,
40:06
Okay, you can thank Stone for Meadows for that one. Calm nine
40:09
two. He filmed our all of our shows on our run and I put
40:13
a compilation together and put a music video out for which is death Big Confession.
40:16
And you can notice in some of the videos that every time I would
40:19
jump up, Armando and the Meadows dudes would start punching me, so like
40:22
they're just constantly like jabbing me in the stomach. So there's like four guys
40:25
like trying to hold me up, all the Meadow's crew. It's just like
40:28
under trying to punch me. And there's one video I think it was Richmond
40:32
where I grab You see him grab Armando's arm and I just punch him in
40:36
the face like three times. I took it a little too far. I
40:40
had to apologize. So they're basically one like the Rocky for Training sequence on
40:45
you You're like, no, yeah, exactly. You see in the video
40:52
I grab his arm because he's trying to punch me, and I just like
40:54
sock Hi at the face a couple of times. But it's all good fun.
40:58
I felt bad. You're a good day. I love it exactly.
41:02
Hey, if you get a cool enough to stage dive, who knows,
41:05
maybe a go viral And guitars are some Guitars account or whatever, Guitars World
41:09
or whatever it's called. Yeah, yeah, Hey Colin, you won the
41:14
bet. You said how long it would take for Mason to bring up his
41:16
references stage dive at front I had, I had the over forty two and
41:21
a half minutes. You had to unders you want just barely? All right?
41:30
Uh? Should we do our little Uh? I don't know. It's
41:32
not really top five, but just kind of like an assortment of categories of
41:37
artists for you. Uh? Do you? We mentioned really quickly about like
41:42
most hated artists? Do you have any most hated artists Austin. I don't
41:46
have any most hated I do not like country music. So I work with
41:50
a guy he's a carpenter, and he says, there's two types of two.
41:52
There's two types of there's two types of music in this world, Austin.
41:55
He always says, he said country in Western that's the same. Because
42:00
the other thing is if if you're like, hey, you're talking, he's
42:04
like, man, some people say that you're a nice cast and other people
42:07
tell the truths. Are there any country artists in particular where you're like,
42:15
really can't stand those guys? No, because I don't listen to country at
42:19
all. So I literally can't tell you, like the difference between Daughtry and
42:25
Daughtry dry country. I don't see a country. I don't know rock.
42:31
No, I can't even Chris Stapleton and the Georgia Florida line or whatever,
42:36
like I just I'm not that's just not my pace. Um so so so
42:42
like like zero country, you're talking like pop country? Are you just talking
42:45
about country in general? If it sounds anything like country, if it has
42:47
a fiddle and or a banjo and or a slide guitar, you're out?
42:52
Is that what you're saying? That's complicated because I try to respect music as
42:55
much as possible. So that's not like it's not like an ultimatum. Just
43:00
you know, you got your country Western stadium radio station. That's just not
43:04
gonna be my jam. I used to listen to like Johnny Cash, and
43:06
stuff and rust and Kelly's like kind of he dips his dough into some country
43:09
stuff like I love that, but um yeah, I don't know. It's
43:12
just it was never my jam. The whole like drinking drinking beers on a
43:15
Tuesday and night, got my Chavvy truck driving down with no headlines, like
43:21
that's that's pretty good. It sounds like you have listened to country once or
43:23
twice. Good thing you're not from the real st South dakoast right, Yeah,
43:29
that's Mason and I used to call it country mushit. It was just
43:34
like it was like, how are you how we labeled it's right? Um,
43:37
all right, So I'm oh my other one too, sorry to interrupt.
43:40
I am very much out on the like new metal resurgence that's happening because
43:45
I it's like this whole thing where like the clothes that I wore in the
43:49
nineties when I was eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, like
43:52
they're coming back now and I'm like, no, baggy pants are out,
43:54
like don't bring you want to stick with I like my skinny jeans, but
44:01
it's just like, no, this fashion statement is out, let's not bring
44:05
it back. And then nu metal it's like it's out, let's not bring
44:08
it back. But I've lost that battle. It's very much back in and
44:10
I'm yeah, there's some really good shit though. Um. All right,
44:15
so the whole genre of country you're not a fan of, all right,
44:21
So that's most hated. But we talked to Tommy Green recently about kind of
44:24
an interesting category to think about, and that is a band on paper that
44:30
you should like but you just can't quite get into for some reason. So
44:34
is there are there any bands like that? How? How I don't want
44:39
to make people mad? No, No, I just won't make the mad
44:43
because it's saying like like generally I should like you, but I just you
44:46
know, it's Meadows, false Star, the ongoing concept all of your friends,
44:58
m I Typic really am out on like the more popular stuff like I
45:04
cannot I will not get into sleep Tooken. That's just not that's not yet
45:12
to hear like a like a true on true metal genre fan or not not
45:16
fan. But artists say that they are a fan of Sleep Token They're out
45:22
there. I just can't do it. I can't get into it. It's
45:25
like the Weekend had a baby with a new metal band, not not my
45:31
thing. Um well so so uh so I started to do a deep dive
45:37
on Furnist Best Stuff and all the band So I'm trying to like listen to
45:39
it just so I kind of know which is really fascinating because the lineup that
45:43
they cry is just like so insane, the different styles, the different artists
45:47
that they get involved. Like props to Johnny and uh Chad and everybody,
45:54
Mike and everybody that's involved in booking bands, because I I'm so impressed at
46:00
the different styles, the different artists and everything that they have is just the
46:05
coolest thing ever. So I start getting into some of this stuff and a
46:07
man, I'm like, man, I just completely missed this, and so
46:09
I'm starting to realize that on paper, I should like these type of bands,
46:13
but I'm just out. So like, if you listen to this and
46:17
you're in this band or you appreciate these bands, don't just don't touch me.
46:21
It's just not my thing. The emory is the Amberlin's, the like
46:24
Hopefalls, a little bit of that, like Emo E post hardcore was just
46:30
something when that came out in what like two thousand and three, four or
46:32
five six that I just at some point when I was like a teenager,
46:36
I just decided that was very much not what I was listening to, and
46:38
I went more like hardcore like Barrier Dead, Evergreen Terrorists, and so that
46:43
stuff wasn't hard enough. And so I'm going through now and listening to Amberlin
46:47
and we saw Emory last year, and there's just a lot of bands like
46:50
that. Then I'm like one like trying to open myself up to and say,
46:53
like, Okay, give these guys a shot. Amberlin like really cool
46:55
band, like really talented and cool songs. Casey was another one one that
47:00
I didn't listen to, like super rad band. So I was showing the
47:02
Undertaking guys on Monday night of this week. I was like, dude,
47:06
check out Casey. They're amazing, Like how did I miss these guys?
47:08
But like on paper, I should have loved them. Back in the day,
47:13
Tooth and Nail played. Some of these bands were like involved in like
47:15
the Christian culture. I was like a youth group kid, and it's just
47:19
one not one of those things that I adapted to. So anyways, that's
47:22
my long winded answer of that, Like on paper, like the emo slash
47:25
post hardcore kind of vibe like definitely should have been in my wheelhouse that I
47:30
just like never got into and so shout out Kingdom Core. Sean was giving
47:34
me a hard time. He's like, man, you've missed out on like
47:36
a lot of good music. I'm like, I know, I got a
47:37
lot of blind spots in my music history, So trying to rectify that and
47:43
go through a lot of those bands. And that's good honesty. You listen
47:45
to everything. Here's I've had like a little thought about this for a while.
47:50
How much of that do you think was because of the band's name,
47:53
Because there's some band names where I'm just like, no, I'm not even
47:55
gonna give you a chance in the first place because I hate your band name,
48:00
Like the Undertaking mysame name a great name, it makes me want to
48:05
listen right away. Um a band name like Tool, though, Like I
48:09
didn't listen to Tool for the longest time because I was like, that's the
48:12
stupidest name for a band I've ever heard. So do you think that part
48:15
of it was maybe about like band names? No, I don't think so.
48:20
How old are you and I'm about to turn twenty nine? Oh you
48:25
guys are children. Um, I'm thirty six. So so like Tool that
48:31
was I was. That was new medal is stuff that was in my wheelhouse.
48:37
So like I understand you were like a little bit younger than me.
48:40
I can see how you were like, yeah, I don't I'm not gonna
48:43
get into them that so skism and all that kind of stuff that was like
48:45
urgma, the oh yeah, I love I love Tool now, but like
48:50
it, it took me a long time to get into him just because I
48:52
had never listened to him, because I hated the band name. What the
48:54
band's interesting, That's a fascinating content. It's not necessarily the band name,
48:59
but like a band, like a band like Nine Inch Nails. I very
49:02
much equated them to like corn yeah and Tool and moral stuff like that.
49:07
And then when when Trent Residents started doing movie soundtracks with like Social Network and
49:12
some of that stuff, I like started to get into his music and I
49:14
went back and listening to Nine Nails and I did not realize that they were
49:16
like really really sick, and so part of it was like the songs that
49:21
were the popular and the you know, mid nineties. I was like a
49:24
sheltered Christian kid and said, I want to like an animal like I'm not
49:29
like I wasn't like supposed to listen to that stuff. So I was like,
49:30
oh, I can't listen to nine Inch Nails. And it's like the
49:34
Christian kids that weren't allowed to watch like the Simpsons back in the day or
49:36
Seinfeld. Then now as an adult, you're like, well, this is
49:37
really funny. And so I listened to nine Inch Nails and I was like,
49:40
oh, that was a band I didn't get into. Then it's really
49:43
good, like cool stuff. There's that too. Now I've got I've got
49:46
a whole plethora of bands and other media that I didn't get to look at,
49:50
or watch or listen to because of Christian upbringing. You know, my
49:57
sister had a rage against the machine tape cassette and my mom found it.
50:00
My sister was older than me, but my mom found it and snapped it
50:04
in half. And then I had an eminem uh Encore or whatever the album
50:09
was, and my mom put it on and showed up on the kitchen table
50:14
later snapped in half. So my mom was she was like she she's not
50:20
strict, and she like loved pop music and loved like that kind of stuff.
50:23
It was just funny, what like would take her to snap but obviously
50:25
Eminem for like a twelve year old kid was like breaking Austin. Have you
50:30
never listened to kJ five two? Yeah? Dude, my my mom did
50:35
this exact same thing. My sister had like this whole binder full of CDs
50:38
and it was like Eminem and Chiny and oh wait, how old is your
50:44
sister? She's thirty five. Yeah. The biggest regret I've made in my
50:51
life is I threw away my binder of my Snapster CD company. Oh I'm
50:57
so so that gives me pt S because man, I had like the sickest
51:01
even listing up what did you say? Chegy? Yeah, y like chameleonaires
51:07
and do you know? But it was like rap yeah no, but it
51:09
was like whatever you could get on Napster and you just throw it on a
51:13
CD. So like jay Z, Jiggy and the kid Rock and like Metallica,
51:19
but then they'd all be at different levels because they were all or they
51:23
were like they were like recorded directly from radio. Yeah, and so like
51:28
you would sometimes like hear like the rewind sound like the fast Forward side.
51:31
I had like the entire Metallica discography that I'd gotten off of lime Wire growing
51:37
up, and everything was like sped up or slowed down at some point throughout
51:40
the song. So it's almost unlistenable. When you would find a pristine copy
51:46
of something, you'd just be like, this is it wasn't born, It
51:52
wasn't like there was no there was no uh no virus watermark on that was
51:58
like in the middle of the song, it was like you're listening to g
52:00
J. Yeah, those were the days. Those were the days. I
52:07
still have one back at my parents house, a CD compilation, and it
52:12
included like Emery Blink one eighty two. I'm trying to think of some of
52:15
the others, so I think there's some like Reliant K songs on there.
52:19
I mean basically any anything from like two thousand and three and two thousand and
52:22
four that I was really into. Um, but yeah, I mean it
52:25
might even had like a Meme without You song or two. But it's kind
52:29
of like that. That's a good one. Reliant K on paper Christian Kid
52:32
grew up in the church, not my thing. Never never got into them,
52:37
never listened to them. It's funny because all these bands that you've talked
52:38
about were literally going to have on in the next couple of weeks. Right,
52:42
Oh, I love that. What happens, well, we'll let them
52:50
know that the band that got voted into furness Fest is not a fan of
52:53
everybody. Yeah, we got hopes Fall coming up. We've got Reliant K
52:58
coming up. Hopefully we can get Gene on soon. But I'm sure we'll
53:02
interview Emery at some point again. But yeah, we've got got some of
53:06
those bands that we'll be interviewing soon. Just cut. That's my goal now
53:09
is just to create as much beef as possible with them. But I hope
53:14
so, I mean, that's the irony of it. And I've said this
53:16
before on Your Guys' podcast on other podcasts that like, man, I have
53:22
like just massive respect for anybody that creates anything because it is so hard to
53:28
do anything. So Mason creates some very big poops. Yeah, congratulations on
53:35
that, but thank you to anybody that puts out a song like they poured
53:38
something into it and made something. And so it's just this whole thing where
53:42
it like that's it's talking about, like movies and music and stuff. Everything's
53:45
so subjective in the sense of what resonates with me and what I listened to
53:49
as like a kid, as a teenager, as an adult, and there's
53:52
just certain ones that you just like, man, we just missed. I
53:54
missed that. Uh we came as romans in that kind of core, the
54:00
metal core stuff that happened in like twenty two thousand and nine to twenty fourteen,
54:05
that is just such a blank spot in my metal core scene. I
54:10
just honestly, I think metalcore at that time wasn't like particularly good. Like
54:15
they weren't even the bands that were good. We're mostly all like on hiatus
54:19
or whatever. And yeah, that like timeframe I always thought wasn't like particularly
54:22
great. But I had just gotten married, Like we were definitely more into
54:25
like the Vampire weekend dash not dashboard a death cab for Cutie like who wasn't
54:31
who wasn't at that time. But then I was like yind of like,
54:34
oh, I'm gonna put metalcore but behind me, like I'm an adult now.
54:39
So anyways, and now look at you. You started your own band
54:43
where you do all those things, and ten people like us, right,
54:50
you know why, it's more than right, and twenty percent of them are
54:53
looking at you right now. Austin, It's been so great to chat with
55:00
you. You're such a good friend, and uh yeah, we're less than
55:04
three months away now from giving you a big old bear hug and then punching
55:07
you while you stage dive on us. Please don't punch me. I take
55:13
war, friend, I will maybe bleed the death internally and die, So
55:15
don't don't punch me in the head. No, no to self, not
55:19
to self. I'll remind you again before the show.